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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talking with Kirby Ferris during the break as he just
came in and welcome, by the way, good to see you.
Good morning JJ, our last guest, talking about I guess
the wipification of America towards men and trying to downplay
their masculinity and it's just wrong. It shouldn't be going on.
And we started talking about you know, guys, you know,
leaning too soft and you know, and then we got
(00:21):
into the transgender discussion, and which I think transgender and
gay are two different arenas of discussion. Transgender to me,
especially when it comes to miners, I mean as an adult,
if you want to do that, I don't have care
in the world what you want to do. But if
you want to transition a minor, say a twelve year
(00:41):
old boy that you think mom and dad wants to
be a girl, and you go to the pediatrician and
the pediatrician says, sure, I'll play ball with you if
this is what you want to do, I think that's mutation.
I think it's just you know, malicious behavior, anti hippocratic oath.
As a physician, and we know and have discussions about
(01:05):
kids' brains don't fully develop until your mid twenties. So
is this going to be a Supreme Court decision at
some point? Because I'm telling you, with physicians and parents
moving kids in this direction and the kids really not
sure what's going on. And well, wait a minute, just
because I have three sisters and their friends come over
and I played dress up one day, it doesn't mean
I want to be a girl. I mean what, So
(01:26):
where are the courts on this jj.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's a huge issue in the courts right now, and
in fact, this is a big, big session for the
US Supreme Court. Yeah, huge, They've got so much on
their plate. But one of the things that's on their
plate is a Tennessee law banning doctors from giving gender
affirming drugs to minors. That's one of the things they're seeing.
And you know, we monitor the oral arguments and try
(01:50):
to see which way the court's leaning, and by the
questioning from the court, it certainly seems that they're leaning towards.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Performing this Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Protecting yes, twelve year old people.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Children, Yes, which is what I think that it is.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And if so, then other states would be free to
then impose such laws. But it's going to be done
on a state by state basis unless you.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Know the see state by state on this one, I
think is I'm good with a federal decision from the
US Supreme Court to stop this insanity in madness.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, see, they can't really do that. It's a it's
a legislative issue. So what would have to happen is
there would have to be federal legislation.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, and then of course,
well the Supreme Court is federal. You're saying that Congress
has to get involved in this. Yes, even if the
Supreme Court says we're not doing gender you know, transitioning
for minors, they.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Don't really have that authority. They have the authority to
review law, right, they don't make law, which is the.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Way it should be these branches.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Why is it taking so long for common sense to
enter the room on this discussion? Well, why why is
Congress not dealt with this?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Talking about the government and common sense? And if you
talk about those two things together, that's an oxymoron.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Common sense does get involved in government a right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Kirby, I did want to talk to you about immigration situation. Obviously,
every time Donald Trump turns around, somebody saying nope, stop
you can't do that, especially when it comes to immigration
policies and deportations. So where are we Where do you
think the court stands basically on Trump wanting to do
what he wants to do. It are we talking about
(03:27):
once again? All right, if you want to do it,
we're okay with it, but you've got to get Congress
to play ball with you.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
From a view, you know, a thousand feet up right,
a big picture view, I think this is what's going
on right now. First of all, birthright citizenship is before
the Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
We're waiting on an opinion.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Because well, I've heard lawyers say constitutionally, you know, that
does mean they are entitled to if they're born on
the soil, their citizens automatically, and if they're born on
the soil, or if they're on the soil as an
adult and got their feet grounded in the United States territory,
they're entitled to our rights legally. And I think that's
a gray area. I mean, if you're born here and
(04:09):
your parents are illegal, once again, that kind of a
great Where does the court seem to be on this?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, the constitution A lot of people come.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Over to just do that. Let's have a baby.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
That way we can stay, well, the child can stay.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But the Constitution, in my opinion, is very clear on
that issue that if you're born on our grounds, you
are a US citizen. I think the Constitution is clear,
like the things going on in the courts, if we
want that change, there's a process for changing it, and
we need to go through that process. Just like deportation.
(04:45):
There is a process, a legal process for deportation, and
that should be followed.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right. My opinion differs on that we have federal
laws on the books already. I don't think we need
to change federal laws as far as what it means
to be a US citizen. You go through the process legally.
You enter this country legally. Okay. Countries around the world
have sovereignty, there are border protections, there are laws and
(05:11):
ways to become a citizen. Some countries won't even allow it.
So if you're coming to this country and you're here illegally,
you've broken federal law by just definition of what's already
on the books. So I don't think we need Congress
to find that anymore. On that. So, where I think
we get into trouble is or at least open the
(05:35):
door for discussion. And I know listeners are going to
say JT. If they're here illegally, they got to go. Well,
if they've been here for twenty years and they're producing
income and providing for the community and have a family
and you know their doctor, you know, or an engineer,
and they've been here for twenty years, I think they
(05:56):
have to be put in a situation where they must
become a US citizen and here's how we're going to
do that. And you got to pay, just like anybody
else would. But I don't think you just start ripping
these people out of this country. And you got to
go after twenty years of being here and providing for
the community and case by case on kids and medicine
needed here in this country that Mexico or Venezuela doesn't offer.
(06:20):
I mean, do you believe that there's room for discussion
on a case by case basis when it comes to
non criminals in this country?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And you make a very important point, non.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Criminals, non criminals, goodbye. You show me a person I
mean criminals goodbye.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, you show me a person that's been living here
twenty years, has been paying taxes, has been working, has
been raising kids, has been a good neighbor to the people.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They live around.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think we should have a reasonable path to citizenship
for those people.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But you better be on that path.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Absolutely, and you need to be on that path. But
we as a country have not given them that path.
It is so complicated.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, I get it, but I don't think that
grandfathers you into Since we haven't done in twenty years,
you don't have to be in that line. I think
if we decide to change things and enforce some things,
then you know, you do need to be in that line.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Sorry, it's taken twenty years to get you there, but
you got to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I couldn't agree with you more. And that's going to
take legislation that creates that reasonable path. Because I've done
a number of shows on our television show where we've
had people come in and talk about that path, and
it's unbelievable how difficult it is.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's almost impossible.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, do we want people to come to this country?
I think, once again, a thousand foot view, I think
we do. Okay, Well, this is what this country's all about. Sure,
the statue of liberty, I mean, right there, as you
enter the port, right, So, but you got to do
it the right way.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And contribute to society, right right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Don't come over here and just start soaking off our
government programs. And yeah, I'm with you there. So where
do you think the court's gonna land on, you know,
this type of thing.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm just not optimistic about any legislation that would would
create that path. We haven't seen it, we haven't heard
anybody talking about it. I think the courts are going
to hold the administration's feet to the fire on doing
things the right way for deportation. But unfortunately it's it's
a problem that I don't see an easy answer to.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, I think there is a way to, you know,
find us some compromise and some common sense and bipartisanship
in all of this and get it done. And look,
once and for all, here's how it's going to work.
That's right, and enforce it for the love and don't
let Joe Biden all of a sudden come in and
go the borders are open. Well, you can't, just as
(08:47):
much as Donald Trump can't say every person in this
country is leaving tomorrow, logistically impossible. You can't just come
in and blanket open up the borders and let them in,
because I mean a lot easier to get the toothpaste
out instead of putting it back in correct, So diet
Curb you good to see it, but it's great to
see you laugh.
Talking with Kirby Ferris during the break as he just
came in and welcome, by the way, good to see you.
Good morning JJ, our last guest, talking about I guess
the wipification of America towards men and trying to downplay
their masculinity and it's just wrong. It shouldn't be going on.
And we started talking about you know, guys, you know,
leaning too soft and you know, and then we got
(00:21):
into the transgender discussion, and which I think transgender and
gay are two different arenas of discussion. Transgender to me,
especially when it comes to miners, I mean as an adult,
if you want to do that, I don't have care
in the world what you want to do. But if
you want to transition a minor, say a twelve year
(00:41):
old boy that you think mom and dad wants to
be a girl, and you go to the pediatrician and
the pediatrician says, sure, I'll play ball with you if
this is what you want to do, I think that's mutation.
I think it's just you know, malicious behavior, anti hippocratic oath.
As a physician, and we know and have discussions about
(01:05):
kids' brains don't fully develop until your mid twenties. So
is this going to be a Supreme Court decision at
some point? Because I'm telling you, with physicians and parents
moving kids in this direction and the kids really not
sure what's going on. And well, wait a minute, just
because I have three sisters and their friends come over
and I played dress up one day, it doesn't mean
I want to be a girl. I mean what, So
(01:26):
where are the courts on this jj.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's a huge issue in the courts right now, and
in fact, this is a big, big session for the
US Supreme Court. Yeah, huge, They've got so much on
their plate. But one of the things that's on their
plate is a Tennessee law banning doctors from giving gender
affirming drugs to minors. That's one of the things they're seeing.
And you know, we monitor the oral arguments and try
(01:50):
to see which way the court's leaning, and by the
questioning from the court, it certainly seems that they're leaning towards.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Performing this Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Protecting yes, twelve year old people.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Children, Yes, which is what I think that it is.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And if so, then other states would be free to
then impose such laws. But it's going to be done
on a state by state basis unless you.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Know the see state by state on this one, I
think is I'm good with a federal decision from the
US Supreme Court to stop this insanity in madness.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, see, they can't really do that. It's a it's
a legislative issue. So what would have to happen is
there would have to be federal legislation.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, and then of course,
well the Supreme Court is federal. You're saying that Congress
has to get involved in this. Yes, even if the
Supreme Court says we're not doing gender you know, transitioning
for minors, they.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Don't really have that authority. They have the authority to
review law, right, they don't make law, which is the.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Way it should be these branches.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Why is it taking so long for common sense to
enter the room on this discussion? Well, why why is
Congress not dealt with this?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Talking about the government and common sense? And if you
talk about those two things together, that's an oxymoron.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Common sense does get involved in government a right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Kirby, I did want to talk to you about immigration situation. Obviously,
every time Donald Trump turns around, somebody saying nope, stop
you can't do that, especially when it comes to immigration
policies and deportations. So where are we Where do you
think the court stands basically on Trump wanting to do
what he wants to do. It are we talking about
(03:27):
once again? All right, if you want to do it,
we're okay with it, but you've got to get Congress
to play ball with you.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
From a view, you know, a thousand feet up right,
a big picture view, I think this is what's going
on right now. First of all, birthright citizenship is before
the Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
We're waiting on an opinion.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Because well, I've heard lawyers say constitutionally, you know, that
does mean they are entitled to if they're born on
the soil, their citizens automatically, and if they're born on
the soil, or if they're on the soil as an
adult and got their feet grounded in the United States territory,
they're entitled to our rights legally. And I think that's
a gray area. I mean, if you're born here and
(04:09):
your parents are illegal, once again, that kind of a
great Where does the court seem to be on this?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, the constitution A lot of people come.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Over to just do that. Let's have a baby.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
That way we can stay, well, the child can stay.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But the Constitution, in my opinion, is very clear on
that issue that if you're born on our grounds, you
are a US citizen. I think the Constitution is clear,
like the things going on in the courts, if we
want that change, there's a process for changing it, and
we need to go through that process. Just like deportation.
(04:45):
There is a process, a legal process for deportation, and
that should be followed.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
All right. My opinion differs on that we have federal
laws on the books already. I don't think we need
to change federal laws as far as what it means
to be a US citizen. You go through the process legally.
You enter this country legally. Okay. Countries around the world
have sovereignty, there are border protections, there are laws and
(05:11):
ways to become a citizen. Some countries won't even allow it.
So if you're coming to this country and you're here illegally,
you've broken federal law by just definition of what's already
on the books. So I don't think we need Congress
to find that anymore. On that. So, where I think
we get into trouble is or at least open the
(05:35):
door for discussion. And I know listeners are going to
say JT. If they're here illegally, they got to go. Well,
if they've been here for twenty years and they're producing
income and providing for the community and have a family
and you know their doctor, you know, or an engineer,
and they've been here for twenty years, I think they
(05:56):
have to be put in a situation where they must
become a US citizen and here's how we're going to
do that. And you got to pay, just like anybody
else would. But I don't think you just start ripping
these people out of this country. And you got to
go after twenty years of being here and providing for
the community and case by case on kids and medicine
needed here in this country that Mexico or Venezuela doesn't offer.
(06:20):
I mean, do you believe that there's room for discussion
on a case by case basis when it comes to
non criminals in this country?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And you make a very important point, non.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Criminals, non criminals, goodbye. You show me a person I
mean criminals goodbye.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, you show me a person that's been living here
twenty years, has been paying taxes, has been working, has
been raising kids, has been a good neighbor to the people.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They live around.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think we should have a reasonable path to citizenship
for those people.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
But you better be on that path.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Absolutely, and you need to be on that path. But
we as a country have not given them that path.
It is so complicated.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know, I get it, but I don't think that
grandfathers you into Since we haven't done in twenty years,
you don't have to be in that line. I think
if we decide to change things and enforce some things,
then you know, you do need to be in that line.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Sorry, it's taken twenty years to get you there, but
you got to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I couldn't agree with you more. And that's going to
take legislation that creates that reasonable path. Because I've done
a number of shows on our television show where we've
had people come in and talk about that path, and
it's unbelievable how difficult it is.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's almost impossible.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, do we want people to come to this country?
I think, once again, a thousand foot view, I think
we do. Okay, Well, this is what this country's all about. Sure,
the statue of liberty, I mean, right there, as you
enter the port, right, So, but you got to do
it the right way.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And contribute to society, right right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Don't come over here and just start soaking off our
government programs. And yeah, I'm with you there. So where
do you think the court's gonna land on, you know,
this type of thing.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm just not optimistic about any legislation that would would
create that path. We haven't seen it, we haven't heard
anybody talking about it. I think the courts are going
to hold the administration's feet to the fire on doing
things the right way for deportation. But unfortunately it's it's
a problem that I don't see an easy answer to.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, I think there is a way to, you know,
find us some compromise and some common sense and bipartisanship
in all of this and get it done. And look,
once and for all, here's how it's going to work.
That's right, and enforce it for the love and don't
let Joe Biden all of a sudden come in and
go the borders are open. Well, you can't, just as
(08:47):
much as Donald Trump can't say every person in this
country is leaving tomorrow, logistically impossible. You can't just come
in and blanket open up the borders and let them in,
because I mean a lot easier to get the toothpaste
out instead of putting it back in correct, So diet
Curb you good to see it, but it's great to
see you laugh.
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