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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kirby Ferris from Farris, Riley and Pitt will be with
us here in just about fifteen minutes or so, but
he's walked into the studio already this morning. Kirby, good
to see you morning. It's been a minute. It has
been a minute. Yes, great to see you. You weren't
here last week. Apparently you had to fly to the
islands with your lovely wife for dinner and then come
back the next morning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was my anniversary. Any woman that would put up
with me for this long deserves that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
How many years? Twenty one? Hey, congratulations, high five on
Thank you man. That's awesome. She's a great person. Let's
go for twenty one more.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Let's do it man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Good news. So we've got a couple of things to
talk about this morning, and I'm looking forward to it.
The death penalty, yes, is going to be the discussion,
but a little different angle on it. Yes, number one
a group of people not eligible for the death penalty,
and we'll talk more about that. And also the firing
(00:51):
squad making a comeback. Wow, what something isn't it? Well,
it's all coming up in Idaho and some other states.
And a guy, I guess in South Carolina. I think
is probably going to end up h having the firing
squad by choice, he said, I yeah, I saw that.
I want that.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How about the guillotine? Can we just get that back
in vogue?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, I mean, I mean, what are the other ways
they used to do it back in the medieval days.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, you know, sometimes they put you in the
shackles and just leave you out there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just remember that, see you, see you. Wow. Kirby Ferris
joins us. Now, have you ever a moonwalk?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
By the way, I mean I used to try when
it was cool, and I looked ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's like carry oky to me. I don't think I'm
doing all right. Death penalty. A couple of things going
on here. First of all, let's talk about what George
is doing. Now. Yes, they have the death penalty there, right,
they did, But all of a sudden is it the
courts that are changing this?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Legislatures legislatures have been a bill dropped, They've had some
like we have here in Alabama. They've had some situations
over there with people who were mentally challenged being executed,
and one of the legislatures over there said, look, we
need to.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Not do this. Yeah, yeah, what is their definition in
the in the line where they say, okay, you're now
not eligible because of your mental issues, but you are
because you're just on the other side of that line.
Where is the liners It's subject to each individual case.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It is that they do draw a bright line and
it's between sixty and seventy for most states.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
What is that the IQ?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's the IQ. I'm sorry, yeah, the IQ. And of
course when you do this testing, there's some variables in there,
like you know, just like a poll for instance, where
you two or three points either way. So there's some
controversy about that. But this is a Republican senator that said, listen,
we disabled people shouldn't be executed, right, So.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
For instance, Billy Bob Thornton and sling blade, biscuits and mustard.
There you get, he probably would not be elegible. Yes,
no matter what the crime he did. That's correct, Although
on the other.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
A walk now you stay in prison.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You're just not you're off death row. Correct. I'm kind
of okay with that. You don't.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Actually I am too, j T. And the you know,
the Supreme Court US Supreme Court said many years ago
that you couldn't execute mentally disabled people, but there still
has been this ongoing controversy about it, and I like
this legislation in Georgia to clean it up for their state,
and I'd like to see us do it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know, there are some cases where I'm super pro
death penalty, of course, you know. And also on the
IQ thing, we understand that the average IQ is about
one hundred around one hundred, okay, yeah, and those that
fall in that sixty number pretty bad. That's low. But
also on the other end, if you're one hundred and
fifty one hundred and sixty, you can be just as
(03:40):
bizarre as you know, the bottom end. That is true, actually, right, yes,
I mean true. I've known some of those folks. Also
a couple of cases here in Idaho, South Carolina. I
think there are five states now that allow firing squad
for the death penalty. Here, the South Carolina prisoner is
going to be executed by the firing squad. Apparently, Uh,
(04:02):
he didn't want to suffer, you know, being cooked a
live by electricity, so he chose the firing squad. This man, uh,
the Coburger case, Ryan Coberger, the guy that killed allegedly
these four college students. Uh, that's you know, a possibility there,
and they're scrambling and fighting to get that definitely off
(04:23):
the off the case here. So, firing squad, where do
you stand on the mechanisms in which we carry out execution?
You know, that's such a wonderful question.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I struggle to understand why we can't find a
humane way to put people to that. I know a
lot of really smart people were working on this, but
it seems to me we should find a way. And
I don't like the firing squad. I'm a hunter. I've
seen what rifles do.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like it. They have I don't
know how many people they you know, line up with
the rifles. But you know, one of them is an
empty shell. One of them is just a blank, so
nobody knows who it is. Who was it? Odds are
it was probably you? But you know, right, how do
you feel about the guillotine?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, I really don't know enough about it other
than what I've read in those horror stories from years ago.
When when you have seven to ten seconds of recognition,
it's been severed, right, that's a that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, and it may be longer depending on you know, Yes,
are you on you know, blood thinners or not. Yeah,
the blood leaves you quicker. It's probably to your benefit
if it stays in your brain a little bit longer.
I mean, shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And there's some I struggle with in there, some medication
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That when when we put my dog down recently, and
it's so sad, obviously, but one shot ninety night, Yes,
the next shot your heart stops. Okay, what And I've
heard this time and time again. The reason we don't
do that with human beings is because the drug companies
don't want to be selling those drugs for that purpose.
(05:56):
They won't do it. They dont want to do that.
But and who really knows what kind of pain you
go through, you know, in the moments right after you
know your life is over. You know, it could be horrific.
I don't know what kind. Maybe you don't. I mean, propofall,
when I get a colon Oscarby is some of the
best sleep I've ever had. But you know, and I
(06:16):
don't think I know anything that happened during that time.
I don't believe if they were to slip me the
next shot as far as stopping my heart, would I
feel that or would I not.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't know, you know, read the first state in
the nation. I think it was the first time it
had ever been done that Alabama used this is.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It nitrogen gas or something like that. I think it
was in January.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And now while the state said there wouldn't any problems,
I have read reports that there was some problems.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They also say people that you know, commit suicide by
starting the car in the garage and shutting the door.
That the first thing you do is fall asleep, and
it's very painless. You just go to sleep and then
it's over. So I don't know if we, you know,
struggle with it. You can, you pick the car of
your choice, but we are going to use this method.
I don't know. All right, Well, good to see a man.
Great to see you. Jake his
Kirby Ferris from Farris, Riley and Pitt will be with
us here in just about fifteen minutes or so, but
he's walked into the studio already this morning. Kirby, good
to see you morning. It's been a minute. It has
been a minute. Yes, great to see you. You weren't
here last week. Apparently you had to fly to the
islands with your lovely wife for dinner and then come
back the next morning.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was my anniversary. Any woman that would put up
with me for this long deserves that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
How many years? Twenty one? Hey, congratulations, high five on
Thank you man. That's awesome. She's a great person. Let's
go for twenty one more.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Let's do it man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Good news. So we've got a couple of things to
talk about this morning, and I'm looking forward to it.
The death penalty, yes, is going to be the discussion,
but a little different angle on it. Yes, number one
a group of people not eligible for the death penalty,
and we'll talk more about that. And also the firing
(00:51):
squad making a comeback. Wow, what something isn't it? Well,
it's all coming up in Idaho and some other states.
And a guy, I guess in South Carolina. I think
is probably going to end up h having the firing
squad by choice, he said, I yeah, I saw that.
I want that.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How about the guillotine? Can we just get that back
in vogue?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, I mean, I mean, what are the other ways
they used to do it back in the medieval days.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, you know, sometimes they put you in the
shackles and just leave you out there.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just remember that, see you, see you. Wow. Kirby Ferris
joins us. Now, have you ever a moonwalk?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
By the way, I mean I used to try when
it was cool, and I looked ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's like carry oky to me. I don't think I'm
doing all right. Death penalty. A couple of things going
on here. First of all, let's talk about what George
is doing. Now. Yes, they have the death penalty there, right,
they did, But all of a sudden is it the
courts that are changing this?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Legislatures legislatures have been a bill dropped, They've had some
like we have here in Alabama. They've had some situations
over there with people who were mentally challenged being executed,
and one of the legislatures over there said, look, we
need to.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Not do this. Yeah, yeah, what is their definition in
the in the line where they say, okay, you're now
not eligible because of your mental issues, but you are
because you're just on the other side of that line.
Where is the liners It's subject to each individual case.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It is that they do draw a bright line and
it's between sixty and seventy for most states.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
What is that the IQ?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's the IQ. I'm sorry, yeah, the IQ. And of
course when you do this testing, there's some variables in there,
like you know, just like a poll for instance, where
you two or three points either way. So there's some
controversy about that. But this is a Republican senator that said, listen,
we disabled people shouldn't be executed, right, So.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
For instance, Billy Bob Thornton and sling blade, biscuits and mustard.
There you get, he probably would not be elegible. Yes,
no matter what the crime he did. That's correct, Although
on the other.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
A walk now you stay in prison.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You're just not you're off death row. Correct. I'm kind
of okay with that. You don't.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Actually I am too, j T. And the you know,
the Supreme Court US Supreme Court said many years ago
that you couldn't execute mentally disabled people, but there still
has been this ongoing controversy about it, and I like
this legislation in Georgia to clean it up for their state,
and I'd like to see us do it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know, there are some cases where I'm super pro
death penalty, of course, you know. And also on the
IQ thing, we understand that the average IQ is about
one hundred around one hundred, okay, yeah, and those that
fall in that sixty number pretty bad. That's low. But
also on the other end, if you're one hundred and
fifty one hundred and sixty, you can be just as
(03:40):
bizarre as you know, the bottom end. That is true, actually, right, yes,
I mean true. I've known some of those folks. Also
a couple of cases here in Idaho, South Carolina. I
think there are five states now that allow firing squad
for the death penalty. Here, the South Carolina prisoner is
going to be executed by the firing squad. Apparently, Uh,
(04:02):
he didn't want to suffer, you know, being cooked a
live by electricity, so he chose the firing squad. This man, uh,
the Coburger case, Ryan Coberger, the guy that killed allegedly
these four college students. Uh, that's you know, a possibility there,
and they're scrambling and fighting to get that definitely off
(04:23):
the off the case here. So, firing squad, where do
you stand on the mechanisms in which we carry out execution?
You know, that's such a wonderful question.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I struggle to understand why we can't find a
humane way to put people to that. I know a
lot of really smart people were working on this, but
it seems to me we should find a way. And
I don't like the firing squad. I'm a hunter. I've
seen what rifles do.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like it. They have I don't
know how many people they you know, line up with
the rifles. But you know, one of them is an
empty shell. One of them is just a blank, so
nobody knows who it is. Who was it? Odds are
it was probably you? But you know, right, how do
you feel about the guillotine?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, I really don't know enough about it other
than what I've read in those horror stories from years ago.
When when you have seven to ten seconds of recognition,
it's been severed, right, that's a that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, and it may be longer depending on you know, Yes,
are you on you know, blood thinners or not. Yeah,
the blood leaves you quicker. It's probably to your benefit
if it stays in your brain a little bit longer.
I mean, shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And there's some I struggle with in there, some medication
or something.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That when when we put my dog down recently, and
it's so sad, obviously, but one shot ninety night, Yes,
the next shot your heart stops. Okay, what And I've
heard this time and time again. The reason we don't
do that with human beings is because the drug companies
don't want to be selling those drugs for that purpose.
(05:56):
They won't do it. They dont want to do that.
But and who really knows what kind of pain you
go through, you know, in the moments right after you
know your life is over. You know, it could be horrific.
I don't know what kind. Maybe you don't. I mean, propofall,
when I get a colon Oscarby is some of the
best sleep I've ever had. But you know, and I
(06:16):
don't think I know anything that happened during that time.
I don't believe if they were to slip me the
next shot as far as stopping my heart, would I
feel that or would I not.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't know, you know, read the first state in
the nation. I think it was the first time it
had ever been done that Alabama used this is.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It nitrogen gas or something like that. I think it
was in January.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And now while the state said there wouldn't any problems,
I have read reports that there was some problems.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They also say people that you know, commit suicide by
starting the car in the garage and shutting the door.
That the first thing you do is fall asleep, and
it's very painless. You just go to sleep and then
it's over. So I don't know if we, you know,
struggle with it. You can, you pick the car of
your choice, but we are going to use this method.
I don't know. All right, Well, good to see a man.
Great to see you. Jake his
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