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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kirby. Ferris Joints is now from Ferris, Riley and Pitt.
Will you be making it to Tuscaloosa today to visit
with our president? Kirby. I would imagine, you know, a
man like yourself, carrying yourself so well and at the
statue you exist in that you'll probably be right there
with him.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well that they invited me to pick up and clean
up the parking.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Lot before he got there.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But unfortunately I have a couple of hearings today.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I thought maybe Walt Maddox had called you and said, Kirby,
you want to come on down and come on down?
I loved is he not? He's a great guy. I
love him. He's a Democratic. I tell you he's one
of the smartest I would call moderate Democrats. Uh, he's
not fringe, he's not crazy. He does a great job
in Tuscaloosa. And I and I respect and appreciate Walt
Mannicks for sure. Yeah. I do like wald a bunch.
(00:46):
What a crazy case this is. I've watched Court TV
a number of times. Uh, and I've watched you know
what what? Uh? What's what? Are those outrageous shows where
they show people losing their minds in courtrooms, you know,
live court cam and stuff like that. I just love
THESEUS shows and I'm just picturing that this guy here
is probably going to be up on court cam one
of these days. As there. All Right, a lawyer has
(01:09):
had some things, he got disbarred and now he's sue
him because they disbarred him. Right, what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, So Roal Manchanda is our lawyer from New York, Okay.
And he was putting things in pleadings, and pleadings are
things that we file into the court, okay, and now
as motions motions, yeah, complete request requests.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And as a lawyer, you are an officer of the court,
which means that you have to show respect for the court,
deference to the court. You're still doing your job, you're
still representing your clients. But there's certain things you just
don't do. And what what attorney Manchanda was doing is
putting things in pleadings that were anti.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Semitic, anti semitic, yes, racist, racist, attack on lgbt Q, yes,
check check check. So he got all the Bibles. It
was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The things he wrote and submitted to the court derogatory, horrible,
and so Finally, the State barn in New York said,
we're going to take that license from you, sir, because
you can't do this. You are not practicing law A
the way we want.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well. Time out, mister First Amendment. I mean, are you
exactly are you not allowed to express yourself in a
in a First Amendment capacity and without replications.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So let me give you an example. I have put
in appellent briefs things like I think the.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Court replications of the word er was a repercussions repercussion.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah. I just think the court was wrong in this instance.
They they're misinterpreting the law. I think they're wrong. I
did not put in there that there are a bunch
of so and so and so and sos and yeah,
bad words that I just don't want to say. Uh,
And that's why they ruled against me. So big difference
there between those two.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
As a member of the court, as an officer of
the court, there are certain guidelines you can't conduct yourself.
For instance, I can't conduct myself as an employee of
this company in ways that would be detrimental to this company,
even if it's my social media platform that I personally
run and my first amendment allows me to speak. Well, yeah,
it also allows us to fire you. That's correct. So
(03:21):
this is what happened here with this guy. They pulled
him in and disbarred him license.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And you know, for give you permanently.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yes, And to give you an example, like, if I
do something inappropriate in the court, the judge can put
me in jail for contempt.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So anyway, get to the lawsuit part.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
That's not good. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So this guy appeals to the highest court in New York,
and the highest court in New York says, no, you
don't need a law license. He appeals to the US
Supreme Court. He went to the US Supriot and the
US Supreme Court says, you don't need a law of license,
you don't need.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
To be practicing. So everybody thinks he's crazy. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So he comes back to New York and he files
a twenty zillion dollar lawsuit against the state bar there.
So the court is unfortunately going to have to deal
with a twenty million dollar lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Hold on just a minute. You know, we've had conversation
before about somebody having an accident on I fifty nine
or whatever, and you know it was because there was
a dip in the road and it flipped the car
in a rainstorm. And I thought, well, here's a lawsuit
for sure. I mean, the state's responsible for maintaining you
know that interstag and making it safer motors. There's got
(04:30):
to be a big lawsuit. And you said, no, you
can't sue. Well, what's the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I hear he's suing the state bar, which is different
from the state Okay, so he can bring certain claims
against a state bar. Now I fully expect these to
be tossed summarily. I don't think this case is going
to go very far at all.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So he's done. He'll be working at home depot asle
four selling lumbers soon.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And giving legal advice to the contractors.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think it's ASL thirty anyway. That is crazy. You
can't attack people like that and use words that. I mean,
just think of the worst words possible for these different
groups of people, and they and then you know on steroids,
he was aggressive.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And you just can't do that. There's no place in
the law for that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, they settled in twenty million kind of a check
at all, or they're going to just completely the judges
probably best to just say kick this out.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
We're not doing I think this is when they simply
can't settle. They don't want, they don't need to settle
this case.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And the Serreme Court will not hear this. If he appeels,
they will.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Recognize his name.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's right. Oh, crazy man's back. Okay, no, thanks, all right, Kurby.
Good to see you. And by the way, tell your wife, Tammy,
thank you very much for the homemade strawberry jam that
you brought us this morning, her preserves. It is so good.
I will let her know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
She's been working for three solid days on that. She
was excited to send you something.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think that is a true art. My grandmother used
to do this and you'd walk into the kitchen there's
been boiling pots and jars everywhere, and I mean it's
a mature hair up.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
She was, Yeah, just gelling at it. Ninety miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is great to see. Well, you're lucky man, all right, Tammy,
thank you. It's delicious.
Kirby. Ferris Joints is now from Ferris, Riley and Pitt.
Will you be making it to Tuscaloosa today to visit
with our president? Kirby. I would imagine, you know, a
man like yourself, carrying yourself so well and at the
statue you exist in that you'll probably be right there
with him.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well that they invited me to pick up and clean
up the parking.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Lot before he got there.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But unfortunately I have a couple of hearings today.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I thought maybe Walt Maddox had called you and said, Kirby,
you want to come on down and come on down?
I loved is he not? He's a great guy. I
love him. He's a Democratic. I tell you he's one
of the smartest I would call moderate Democrats. Uh, he's
not fringe, he's not crazy. He does a great job
in Tuscaloosa. And I and I respect and appreciate Walt
Mannicks for sure. Yeah. I do like wald a bunch.
(00:46):
What a crazy case this is. I've watched Court TV
a number of times. Uh, and I've watched you know
what what? Uh? What's what? Are those outrageous shows where
they show people losing their minds in courtrooms, you know,
live court cam and stuff like that. I just love
THESEUS shows and I'm just picturing that this guy here
is probably going to be up on court cam one
of these days. As there. All Right, a lawyer has
(01:09):
had some things, he got disbarred and now he's sue
him because they disbarred him. Right, what happened?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, So Roal Manchanda is our lawyer from New York, Okay.
And he was putting things in pleadings, and pleadings are
things that we file into the court, okay, and now
as motions motions, yeah, complete request requests.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And as a lawyer, you are an officer of the court,
which means that you have to show respect for the court,
deference to the court. You're still doing your job, you're
still representing your clients. But there's certain things you just
don't do. And what what attorney Manchanda was doing is
putting things in pleadings that were anti.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Semitic, anti semitic, yes, racist, racist, attack on lgbt Q, yes,
check check check. So he got all the Bibles. It
was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The things he wrote and submitted to the court derogatory, horrible,
and so Finally, the State barn in New York said,
we're going to take that license from you, sir, because
you can't do this. You are not practicing law A
the way we want.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well. Time out, mister First Amendment. I mean, are you
exactly are you not allowed to express yourself in a
in a First Amendment capacity and without replications.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So let me give you an example. I have put
in appellent briefs things like I think the.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Court replications of the word er was a repercussions repercussion.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah. I just think the court was wrong in this instance.
They they're misinterpreting the law. I think they're wrong. I
did not put in there that there are a bunch
of so and so and so and sos and yeah,
bad words that I just don't want to say. Uh,
And that's why they ruled against me. So big difference
there between those two.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
As a member of the court, as an officer of
the court, there are certain guidelines you can't conduct yourself.
For instance, I can't conduct myself as an employee of
this company in ways that would be detrimental to this company,
even if it's my social media platform that I personally
run and my first amendment allows me to speak. Well, yeah,
it also allows us to fire you. That's correct. So
(03:21):
this is what happened here with this guy. They pulled
him in and disbarred him license.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And you know, for give you permanently.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yes, And to give you an example, like, if I
do something inappropriate in the court, the judge can put
me in jail for contempt.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So anyway, get to the lawsuit part.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
That's not good. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So this guy appeals to the highest court in New York,
and the highest court in New York says, no, you
don't need a law license. He appeals to the US
Supreme Court. He went to the US Supriot and the
US Supreme Court says, you don't need a law of license,
you don't need.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
To be practicing. So everybody thinks he's crazy. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So he comes back to New York and he files
a twenty zillion dollar lawsuit against the state bar there.
So the court is unfortunately going to have to deal
with a twenty million dollar lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Hold on just a minute. You know, we've had conversation
before about somebody having an accident on I fifty nine
or whatever, and you know it was because there was
a dip in the road and it flipped the car
in a rainstorm. And I thought, well, here's a lawsuit
for sure. I mean, the state's responsible for maintaining you
know that interstag and making it safer motors. There's got
(04:30):
to be a big lawsuit. And you said, no, you
can't sue. Well, what's the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I hear he's suing the state bar, which is different
from the state Okay, so he can bring certain claims
against a state bar. Now I fully expect these to
be tossed summarily. I don't think this case is going
to go very far at all.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So he's done. He'll be working at home depot asle
four selling lumbers soon.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And giving legal advice to the contractors.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think it's ASL thirty anyway. That is crazy. You
can't attack people like that and use words that. I mean,
just think of the worst words possible for these different
groups of people, and they and then you know on steroids,
he was aggressive.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And you just can't do that. There's no place in
the law for that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, they settled in twenty million kind of a check
at all, or they're going to just completely the judges
probably best to just say kick this out.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
We're not doing I think this is when they simply
can't settle. They don't want, they don't need to settle
this case.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And the Serreme Court will not hear this. If he appeels,
they will.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Recognize his name.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's right. Oh, crazy man's back. Okay, no, thanks, all right, Kurby.
Good to see you. And by the way, tell your wife, Tammy,
thank you very much for the homemade strawberry jam that
you brought us this morning, her preserves. It is so good.
I will let her know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
She's been working for three solid days on that. She
was excited to send you something.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think that is a true art. My grandmother used
to do this and you'd walk into the kitchen there's
been boiling pots and jars everywhere, and I mean it's
a mature hair up.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
She was, Yeah, just gelling at it. Ninety miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Is great to see. Well, you're lucky man, all right, Tammy,
thank you. It's delicious.
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