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August 1, 2025 • 4 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, parents, as the kids get back to school, maybe
this is the year you're thinking, Oh, this is the
year we got to get her or him a cell phone.
As he or she heads back to school, it's time.
They're of age right now. And apparently if that child
is younger than thirteen, pump the brakes. Hold on just
a minute. Not so much a good idea. Lee Richardson
joined this now PhD Brain health coach and consultant. Why Lee,

(00:23):
these are bad statistics? Here new study finding that you know,
people get smartphones before the age of thirteen are more
likely to think about suicide. What the heck?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Those are pretty scary, but they're very real. And when
you think about a smartphone, it's more than just a
communication tool. It influences how kids socialize. Instead of going
out in the backyard and playing with the dog, they'll
pick up their phone, and it influences how they learn
and how they thwarm their id. So the smartphone, it

(00:54):
can be a deadly weapon.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's scary. I mean. This whole report came from the
Journal of Human Development and Capabilities in tract over one
hundred thousand people at the age of thirteen. The influence
and the impact you're so vulnerable and influenced by peers.
And I think this probably goes all the way through
high school. But starting at that age, do they have
coping skills? Do people at that age and brain development

(01:19):
have the coping skills to deal with what goes on
in that ugly world of internet?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
No, thank you for asking that question. No, they do not,
and they don't know how to deal with it. The
brain's not fully developed to a mid to late twenties,
and the pre frontal cortex is a very last thing
that develops that where you make those good decisions that
for you think through. Now they don't have that, and
so when they see something that's scary, they detach from reality.

(01:48):
They it puts them into a poorly emotionally regulated state.
You know, I can't imagine having a six year old
and seeing a deep fake an image that a has
created that changes maybe my face or a part of
my body. Oh my gosh, I can't imagine my age

(02:09):
look at picking up my phone and seeing that. So
it's what it's the doors that the smartphone opened that
violent material pnography and once you see that at five
or six years old, you don't ever forget it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Are the thoughts of suicide leaning in any particular direction.
As far as boys versus girls.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well more girls, forty eight percent of the female surveyed
reported to a subtle thought at that five to six
years old and only.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Hold on a minute, five to six year olds are
big phones. What I can absolutely unbelievable. I cannot imagine,
you know, when we were talking about thirteen year olds,
that's one thing, but five to six. I've got a
six year old granddaughter and a nine year old granddaughter.
I can't imagine that six year old having a smartphone.

(03:01):
My nine year old has a watch that she can
It's set up like the child's version, and and everything
that happens on that watch goes to my daughter's watch,
so she's got it extremely restricted. What are your thoughts
on that? Where parents do take the responsibility of letting
them have a little bit of what the you know,

(03:22):
the adult world's all about, as far as being able
to contact you know, certain friends on a text and
have some fun versus you know, just wide open.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think what your daughter's doing is creating a safer
digital environment, and I think that's something that we all
need to stop and think about how we do that
and you know, even adults, myself included. I had to
educate myself and understand how those algorithms in that phone
influence what ads come up on my phone. So I

(03:54):
think that you know, your daughter is taking a safe
Approach's she's giving graduated access. Okay, you have to watch,
you can get it, and you can see a call,
you can text, But she's not given her access to
the Internet. No, and she's not giving her access to apps.
And kudos to her, that's the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, I think this is scary. It's like dropping your
kid off in the middle of a stadium full of
people going to a big game with one hundred thousand people,
saying I'll just pick you back up here in a minute.
You know, physically, they may not be getting hurt right
then and there. Boy, the tendency is to you know,
groom little children and just the world of trafficking these days.
It's just an unbelievably scary time for young kids. And

(04:36):
I think, yeah, uh, just don't turn them blindly into
the world of you know, smartphones at that early age
for sure. Well, Lee, I appreciate you this morning, Thank
you so much. Some great insight we'll have you back
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