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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Paal DeMarco joining us in the studio now and good morning, sir.
(00:02):
Good to see everything in your world.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning, Glad to be a Friday. Looking forward to
the week.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, yeah, big weekend plans. You going on to the beach.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This gonna plan a little cornhole tournament this week?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Where's that taking place?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Former? Not former, I'm former current Alabama Representative Alan Treadaway
has a cornhole tournament in honor of his daughter and
be a fun time up in North Jefferson County. Barbecue
fishing cornhole tournament. Hey, don't get much better.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Than can you launch a bag into a home?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Nolet the eight year old? So the kids in charge.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's the kids.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm the deputy cornhole thrower.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, very good? All right, Well, I wanted to get
your thoughts on what's happening with this investigation, the whole
thing over at the Homewo soccer fields where this eighteen
year old was shot by police. The police report did
come out and laid out specific details on how this
whole incident came down, and they say, yes, there was
a gun there. Yes, he got out, scoffled with a
(00:59):
police cop, went down on the ground, actually the guy
goes back to get the gun out of the car
that the cop did see initially when he got out
of the car in that little door pocket there there
was a girl in the car. She took off, but
she's the witness that says no, there was no gun.
And now the attorney's screaming, where is the footage of
the police body cam? We got to see this. So
(01:22):
I was talking with the attorney, Roger Pell last hour
and you heard that I did. And it's just police policy.
It's not a law, it's not a mandate from legislation.
It's depending upon the police department's investigation and when they
want to release it. Now, this is not the Homewo
Department police department's decision to release the footage or not,
(01:43):
because Aliyah is doing the investigation. Now, by'ma law enforcement agency,
but my general feeling on police body cam and I
wanted to get your thoughts on this too. And I
know everybody says, well, you know, I got to do
the investigation first. But if the perception out there is
you know, there's a report from the Homewood PD that
says there was a gun, there's bodycam footage from the
(02:04):
officer and the attorney for the kid that got shot screaming, Okay,
we're going to the day four now today of not
seeing this footage, and the homewopd said, you know, it's
going to be released, but then Aliyah takes over and
now it's up to Aliyah to release and they haven't
responded to anybody yet on whether or not it's going
(02:25):
to be today, tomorrow, or the next day. So I
think if there's a death in a police shooting situation,
the bodycam footage should be released within a twenty four
hour period to at least family. Well, okay, I don't
understand this delay.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, again, the law in Alabama's in the Alabama Supreme
Court is set is up to the investigating accident, correct
investigating agency. So let's go back to what the Homewood
Police Department. Let's go to their specific words, what they said,
so that we don't mince words. Yeah, this is straight
from their report. Arrangements are being made to coordinate viewing
of the video by the family of the deceased. As
(03:02):
the Homewood Police Department has relinquished the investigation of Aliyah
pursuing the Code of Alabama Section thirty six TSH twenty
one DOSH two ten to only Aliyah is authorized by
law to release any recording of the incident. Okay, then
you're talking about in the future. Do you think there
should be a law that it should be released?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Is what you're saying, within a reasonable period of time. Okay.
If they've got to, you know, transfer the footage from
the bodycam apparatus to get it an in duing site
for the family, then that's a tech issue that can
probably be handled in less than an hour. I think
at some point within a twenty four hour period or
forty eight hour whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We're going on day four here. And I'm not saying
this kid's not guilty of bringing this on himself. Okay,
that's not what I'm saying. I'm not calling out the
Homewood Police Department, and I'm just saying in general, bodycam
footage in a situation where somebody has been shot by police,
if they have the statement that goes through every detail
of the minutes that took place, and the bodycam footage
(04:03):
backs that up, wouldn't you common sense tells me get
this to the attorney for the family and let them
see it. In the police station and watch. Come watch it.
We'll let you watch it and clear the air on
all this, so there's not everybody talking about it out
in the public going well, what's with the delay and
why isn't homewood or why isn't Aliah moving faster on this?
(04:23):
I you know, I believe the police report, So I'm
just your thoughts on getting it out there quicker.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Too well to the family, Well again, home would have
said they are making the arrangements, but ultimately it's up
to Leah. And look, you weren't outside agency investigator. You
wouldn't want the agency investigating their.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Own no, I know, And that's not what I'm saying. Aliah,
I got it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So then the question is in the future, you know,
what do you do? And I guess my thing is, you're.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
An attorney, how do you feel about releasing the footage
sooner than later?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You know, I haven't conducted an investigation of a police shooting.
But I would say is if you don't do it right,
then you would be accused of not doing the investigation.
So you're kind of damned if you do, you damn
if you don't. You've got to allow the investigation to proceed.
I'm sure they want to release it to the family
as soon as possible, but they don't want to do
anything to jeopardize the investigation. I don't know. You know,
(05:16):
each investigation is a fact by fact, case by case basis.
Maybe this they could be doing it today. I guess
it depends on the investigation. But you can't say, homewould
you've turned it over to somebody else, but then you
got to do it. So I have confidence what the
Homewood Police Department has reported and that they're working with
(05:37):
the Leah to release this possible.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Let's say you're the president of Eliah, You're in charge
of this case. All right, Paul, can we have the
family see the tape today?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I would go to the investigator who's doing the investigation, say,
where are you with the investigation? Have you completed the
investigation or done what you need to do to go
show this to the family.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
How is it detrimental if you show it now and
still do your investigation?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, again, you and I have not investigated these type
of situations. You want to make sure that you when
someone has been a situation like this, yeah, a killing,
a shooting, you want to and the jeopardy with the
police officer whose rights could be jeopardized. Okay, there's been
a lot of discussion. Let's remember there's a police officer
who woke up that morning he had and he has
shot somebody. But I'm not talking about you, but I
(06:21):
have not heard. Obviously it's a tragic situation for the family.
But let's think about this police officer who now has
to live with he has shot and killed someone. And
I haven't heard that in the media out there, But
let's think about this police officer. Keep him in our
prayers as well. Every police officer wakes up a day
and could lose their life, and none of them wants
to shoot someone. So let's think about that as well,
(06:42):
because I've not been hearing about that about law officers public.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I agree with you and a very good point. But
if I'm that police officer and what I said in
the statement for my department has clearly said there was
a gun, I don't want the attack coming to me anymore.
Show them the footage and you get this off my
plate here, because everywhere I go, people are going to say, oh,
there is thereas or that you know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And I'm sure Homewood is totally let's release this to
clearly as soon as possibly.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, Paul DeMarco, continue our conversations here this morning, and
let's jump on over to the water Worksport. Now they're
changing their name and apparently there was a five to
two vote in favor of this. The two people from
Birmingham shocker Democrats didn't want to change the name. It's
a Birmingham water Worksport. No it's not. It's not. But
they've got officially it's going to be called something and
then operationally it's going to be called something else.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What is that. The new name will be the Central
Alabama Water Board, and it should be, but officially it's
called the what it may be the the Birmingham Waterworks Board.
Let's see change the name City of Birmingham Regional water
Works doing business as Central Alabama.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Water Central Alabama Water Well. It encompasses more Thanham.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, they're like seven hundred and fifty thousand right payers,
and the bulk of them are outside the City of
Birmingham and it's not owned by the City of Birmingham.
They sold the water Worksport, the City Birmingham sold the
waterworks Boards. So they're doing great job down there. Thank goodness.
He's new board members who are very professional. They're doing
a great job. Thanks again to the legislature finally getting
this done. We've been working on this for twenty years
(08:11):
to do what was right for the rate payers. And
this is a big deal, probably in my opinion, one
of the biggest most important changes that have been made
in this region in a long time, changing the form
of government Jefferson County. I think I would say it
was big and now this so I'm very confident for
(08:33):
the future of our region when we have reforms made
like this to the Birmingham Waterworks board that has had
chronic problems.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, Jeff Bromlow is going to be on with me.
He's great and next week.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He's a great appointment by Shelby County. And I think
he's the president of the board right and I know
he's on the board. I'm not sure if he's the president,
but I know he will do a great job. He's
very professional. It was a super appointed by Shelby County
to put professional board members own who are going to
put the right payers first. And that's what Jeff and
(09:05):
that's what these other board members will do.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And they brought into attorneys, you know, because look, if
we're coming in and making changes, let's clean the slate,
start with a fresh group and group set of you know,
a fresh set of eyes on everything, and then get
it rolling. I think I applaud everything they're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, if you look at the amount of money the
old board spent on lobbying the legislature, on attorney's fees,
on PR firms. Even on their way out, they were
giving these golden parachutes to folks. It was a disgrace
with this old board. And they're still fighting it. The
city Burmiham still fighting it, trying to go back to
the old ways. Yeah, and every right payer should be
thankful that this new board is saying, no, we're going
to fight it. The state's gonna fight it, We're going
(09:41):
to keep This new board's going to do right for
the right payers.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, I got to tell you a little bit of
a doge is going on here about this whole thing,
and they're uncovering a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I've heard it's a tip of the iceberg. Good, let's
go with the iceberg. When some of this comes out,
do you believe there could be some criminal attention? I
argularly think there should be a forensic investmenttigation where you
have an outside agency come in and look at everything
what's done on the waterboard the past as far as
they can go back, like they're on their way to
doing that, absolutely, and they should.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
They should
Paal DeMarco joining us in the studio now and good morning, sir.
(00:02):
Good to see everything in your world.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning, Glad to be a Friday. Looking forward to
the week.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, yeah, big weekend plans. You going on to the beach.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This gonna plan a little cornhole tournament this week?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Where's that taking place?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Former? Not former, I'm former current Alabama Representative Alan Treadaway
has a cornhole tournament in honor of his daughter and
be a fun time up in North Jefferson County. Barbecue
fishing cornhole tournament. Hey, don't get much better.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Than can you launch a bag into a home?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Nolet the eight year old? So the kids in charge.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's the kids.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm the deputy cornhole thrower.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Okay, very good? All right, Well, I wanted to get
your thoughts on what's happening with this investigation, the whole
thing over at the Homewo soccer fields where this eighteen
year old was shot by police. The police report did
come out and laid out specific details on how this
whole incident came down, and they say, yes, there was
a gun there. Yes, he got out, scoffled with a
(00:59):
police cop, went down on the ground, actually the guy
goes back to get the gun out of the car
that the cop did see initially when he got out
of the car in that little door pocket there there
was a girl in the car. She took off, but
she's the witness that says no, there was no gun.
And now the attorney's screaming, where is the footage of
the police body cam? We got to see this. So
(01:22):
I was talking with the attorney, Roger Pell last hour
and you heard that I did. And it's just police policy.
It's not a law, it's not a mandate from legislation.
It's depending upon the police department's investigation and when they
want to release it. Now, this is not the Homewo
Department police department's decision to release the footage or not,
(01:43):
because Aliyah is doing the investigation. Now, by'ma law enforcement agency,
but my general feeling on police body cam and I
wanted to get your thoughts on this too. And I
know everybody says, well, you know, I got to do
the investigation first. But if the perception out there is
you know, there's a report from the Homewood PD that
says there was a gun, there's bodycam footage from the
(02:04):
officer and the attorney for the kid that got shot screaming, Okay,
we're going to the day four now today of not
seeing this footage, and the homewopd said, you know, it's
going to be released, but then Aliyah takes over and
now it's up to Aliyah to release and they haven't
responded to anybody yet on whether or not it's going
(02:25):
to be today, tomorrow, or the next day. So I
think if there's a death in a police shooting situation,
the bodycam footage should be released within a twenty four
hour period to at least family. Well, okay, I don't
understand this delay.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, again, the law in Alabama's in the Alabama Supreme
Court is set is up to the investigating accident, correct
investigating agency. So let's go back to what the Homewood
Police Department. Let's go to their specific words, what they said,
so that we don't mince words. Yeah, this is straight
from their report. Arrangements are being made to coordinate viewing
of the video by the family of the deceased. As
(03:02):
the Homewood Police Department has relinquished the investigation of Aliyah
pursuing the Code of Alabama Section thirty six TSH twenty
one DOSH two ten to only Aliyah is authorized by
law to release any recording of the incident. Okay, then
you're talking about in the future. Do you think there
should be a law that it should be released?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Is what you're saying, within a reasonable period of time. Okay.
If they've got to, you know, transfer the footage from
the bodycam apparatus to get it an in duing site
for the family, then that's a tech issue that can
probably be handled in less than an hour. I think
at some point within a twenty four hour period or
forty eight hour whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We're going on day four here. And I'm not saying
this kid's not guilty of bringing this on himself. Okay,
that's not what I'm saying. I'm not calling out the
Homewood Police Department, and I'm just saying in general, bodycam
footage in a situation where somebody has been shot by police,
if they have the statement that goes through every detail
of the minutes that took place, and the bodycam footage
(04:03):
backs that up, wouldn't you common sense tells me get
this to the attorney for the family and let them
see it. In the police station and watch. Come watch it.
We'll let you watch it and clear the air on
all this, so there's not everybody talking about it out
in the public going well, what's with the delay and
why isn't homewood or why isn't Aliah moving faster on this?
(04:23):
I you know, I believe the police report, So I'm
just your thoughts on getting it out there quicker.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Too well to the family, Well again, home would have
said they are making the arrangements, but ultimately it's up
to Leah. And look, you weren't outside agency investigator. You
wouldn't want the agency investigating their.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Own no, I know, And that's not what I'm saying. Aliah,
I got it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So then the question is in the future, you know,
what do you do? And I guess my thing is, you're.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
An attorney, how do you feel about releasing the footage
sooner than later?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You know, I haven't conducted an investigation of a police shooting.
But I would say is if you don't do it right,
then you would be accused of not doing the investigation.
So you're kind of damned if you do, you damn
if you don't. You've got to allow the investigation to proceed.
I'm sure they want to release it to the family
as soon as possible, but they don't want to do
anything to jeopardize the investigation. I don't know. You know,
(05:16):
each investigation is a fact by fact, case by case basis.
Maybe this they could be doing it today. I guess
it depends on the investigation. But you can't say, homewould
you've turned it over to somebody else, but then you
got to do it. So I have confidence what the
Homewood Police Department has reported and that they're working with
(05:37):
the Leah to release this possible.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Let's say you're the president of Eliah, You're in charge
of this case. All right, Paul, can we have the
family see the tape today?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I would go to the investigator who's doing the investigation, say,
where are you with the investigation? Have you completed the
investigation or done what you need to do to go
show this to the family.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
How is it detrimental if you show it now and
still do your investigation?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, again, you and I have not investigated these type
of situations. You want to make sure that you when
someone has been a situation like this, yeah, a killing,
a shooting, you want to and the jeopardy with the
police officer whose rights could be jeopardized. Okay, there's been
a lot of discussion. Let's remember there's a police officer
who woke up that morning he had and he has
shot somebody. But I'm not talking about you, but I
(06:21):
have not heard. Obviously it's a tragic situation for the family.
But let's think about this police officer who now has
to live with he has shot and killed someone. And
I haven't heard that in the media out there, But
let's think about this police officer. Keep him in our
prayers as well. Every police officer wakes up a day
and could lose their life, and none of them wants
to shoot someone. So let's think about that as well,
(06:42):
because I've not been hearing about that about law officers public.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I agree with you and a very good point. But
if I'm that police officer and what I said in
the statement for my department has clearly said there was
a gun, I don't want the attack coming to me anymore.
Show them the footage and you get this off my
plate here, because everywhere I go, people are going to say, oh,
there is thereas or that you know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And I'm sure Homewood is totally let's release this to
clearly as soon as possibly.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, Paul DeMarco, continue our conversations here this morning, and
let's jump on over to the water Worksport. Now they're
changing their name and apparently there was a five to
two vote in favor of this. The two people from
Birmingham shocker Democrats didn't want to change the name. It's
a Birmingham water Worksport. No it's not. It's not. But
they've got officially it's going to be called something and
then operationally it's going to be called something else.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What is that. The new name will be the Central
Alabama Water Board, and it should be, but officially it's
called the what it may be the the Birmingham Waterworks Board.
Let's see change the name City of Birmingham Regional water
Works doing business as Central Alabama.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Water Central Alabama Water Well. It encompasses more Thanham.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, they're like seven hundred and fifty thousand right payers,
and the bulk of them are outside the City of
Birmingham and it's not owned by the City of Birmingham.
They sold the water Worksport, the City Birmingham sold the
waterworks Boards. So they're doing great job down there. Thank goodness.
He's new board members who are very professional. They're doing
a great job. Thanks again to the legislature finally getting
this done. We've been working on this for twenty years
(08:11):
to do what was right for the rate payers. And
this is a big deal, probably in my opinion, one
of the biggest most important changes that have been made
in this region in a long time, changing the form
of government Jefferson County. I think I would say it
was big and now this so I'm very confident for
(08:33):
the future of our region when we have reforms made
like this to the Birmingham Waterworks board that has had
chronic problems.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, Jeff Bromlow is going to be on with me.
He's great and next week.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He's a great appointment by Shelby County. And I think
he's the president of the board right and I know
he's on the board. I'm not sure if he's the president,
but I know he will do a great job. He's
very professional. It was a super appointed by Shelby County
to put professional board members own who are going to
put the right payers first. And that's what Jeff and
(09:05):
that's what these other board members will do.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And they brought into attorneys, you know, because look, if
we're coming in and making changes, let's clean the slate,
start with a fresh group and group set of you know,
a fresh set of eyes on everything, and then get
it rolling. I think I applaud everything they're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, if you look at the amount of money the
old board spent on lobbying the legislature, on attorney's fees,
on PR firms. Even on their way out, they were
giving these golden parachutes to folks. It was a disgrace
with this old board. And they're still fighting it. The
city Burmiham still fighting it, trying to go back to
the old ways. Yeah, and every right payer should be
thankful that this new board is saying, no, we're going
to fight it. The state's gonna fight it, We're going
(09:41):
to keep This new board's going to do right for
the right payers.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, I got to tell you a little bit of
a doge is going on here about this whole thing,
and they're uncovering a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I've heard it's a tip of the iceberg. Good, let's
go with the iceberg. When some of this comes out,
do you believe there could be some criminal attention? I
argularly think there should be a forensic investmenttigation where you
have an outside agency come in and look at everything
what's done on the waterboard the past as far as
they can go back, like they're on their way to
doing that, absolutely, and they should.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
They should
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