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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We were talking about, of course, the horrific events yesterday
that so many of us have seen that. You know,
I watched the video once because I guess I wanted
to see it with my own eyes to believe it.
But I didn't keep watching it because I kept posting
over and over and over again Charlie Kirk being hit
by that bullet, and I couldn't stand to keep watching it,
so so I don't. I've scrolled past that now. But
(00:21):
we're talking about another event that happened twenty years ago,
twenty four years ago on this day, which was nine
to eleven, the attack on the World Trade Center. And
I have to give it, you know, and don't take
this as praise, because it's very far from praise, but
Osama bin Laden it was. It was an ingenious and evil,
ingenious plan that he had that you take two planes
(00:43):
and two towers, and you fly one plane into one tower,
and you get every camera. And remember this is back
before everybody carried around a cell phone to where they
could at any given moment, you know, get a video live.
You know, you actually had to wait for the big
mainstream four main four you know, news networks appoint it
camera at something to get you a live picture. So
we're looking, we were looking at We're all watching together
(01:06):
as we heard there was a fire at the top
of one of the World Trade Center buildings. We said,
oh my gosh, a fire, what could it be. We're
all watching in real time, not like we went back
and watched it aft in real time. As that second
plane banked and made that turn and then hit the
South Tower. I remember, I remember what I was thinking
when I saw first split second. What ran through my
mind was no, wonder planes hit the buildings. Look how
(01:28):
close it let him go? And then I realized that
wasn't an accident. That was very very on purpose. And
from there we realized just how real and how on
purpose it was. Joining me now to talk about this
is Joe Cardinelli. Joe that day, How quickly did you
realize what was happening?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, I think a bunch of us realized it immediately,
because I don't forget. We were still remembering the attempt
made in ninety four to take that building down. They
were very close to doing it, you know, And now
they we're looking at this and a plane just doesn't
hit the World Trade Ending like that. We have hundreds
of planes flying around all the time for you know,
(02:09):
four different airports, you know, and they avoid that, you know,
they know to avoid that. That was intentional, especially the
altitude of it and everything well below the altitude. So
we started mobilizing at that point. We mobilized, you know,
from Long Island, started going in by the time we
got onto the sun State Parkway, which was already backing
up from everything going on and the second plane hit,
(02:31):
and then get into Brooklyn where the base was, and
then jump on the water taxis or the or the
ferries you know that were going They mobilized all of
them like a little armada go in there because that
was one of the only ways, you knew, to get
people out of their fast But once again we got
people back that were fleeing, but they were expecting many
people to go to the hospital and everything that just
(02:52):
didn't happen because everybody was taken down, you know, the
majority was taken down with the buildings.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wasn't there a major commitmmunications center there at the World
Trade Center that was obviously taken out of command, thus
kind of paralyzing the ability for communication to happen within
first responders.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It is, but you want. It was a massive response,
a quick response. I applaud them to this day. I mean,
we lost three hundred and forty three firefighters, we lost
twenty three foom and we lost so many you know,
men and women that day. But firefighters heard about it
over their radios and they responded, you know, firefighters that
were off duty were responding. Anyways, that's where you get
(03:32):
tunnel to towers rum with. You know, Steven Silliatt went
from UH through the battery tunnel with his gear on.
They have the run every year for him to the
towers into the building. And then you had people that
went in the building and came out and came out.
So it was it was, it was insane. No, they
kept going back in because nobody was saying all these out.
(03:56):
They suspected that it was going to be catastrophic, but
they did they have more But even knowing that they
didn't care back into the building, get more people out,
and the fact that they might have saved another dozen,
two dozen, whatever was worth it for them and Joe
and once again, you know, I mean we go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I was just saying, I don't think anyone realized that
the buildings would fall. I think we knew there was
a fire, We knew we needed to get people out,
but we didn't think the structures were going to completely collapse.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Now, well, a lot of people didn't think that, you know,
I myself, I thought they had time. But I think
the first responders in the fire department, emergency service guys
and women that were in there, they knew it because
the heat, you know, the heat was something else too.
I mean that was captured from out of space, you know,
in space right, you know, from the satellites and thermal
(04:48):
imaging on that was incredible. The helicopters that landed the
first time on the ninety four that tried to get
over there couldn't even get near the building. I think
they had a very good idea about this. They had
a very good idea that that building could have came
down in ninety four had that van been placed in
another area underneath the trade center, it would have possibly
(05:11):
taken it down back then. So what I'm saying is
they knew that the danger was incredible, and they still
went back in. That's what first responders do, That's what
cops and firemen do on an everyday basis. That's what
as workers do. That's what people in general do. You know,
(05:31):
you had a lot of military, retired military people that
were in that building that knew what they had to
do with security guards, people that were familiar with that building.
One of the things was after the first bombing was
a fireman told his daughter, they ever tell you stay
inside the building, you tell unscrew you and walk out.
And that woman did that. And she was on the
Brooklyn Bridge walking across when the buildings came down, and
(05:54):
she thanked her father a million times over for that,
you know, because there's just you learn so many things
from that day, but you're not prepared for that, but
you respond anyways.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
How many of the lessons we learned that day did
we apply in the construction and the planning and the
plans that contingent plans are in place with One World Trade,
the new building that has built been built next to the.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Site, Well, I think I think they today we're even
though it's still reactive to things that could happen. You know,
we have to be prepared for those things. I mean,
we're proactive on another level that we never had before,
where everybody's working them with eyes and ears out there
with other countries and everything, and you're waiting to hear
the chatter and sometimes you just don't hear it. That's
(06:35):
why I worry about today with what came across the border,
you know, for sleeper cells, because they had sleeper cells
here that want to even do the subway system in
New York. All right, but you know, let's be real,
you can only be as prepared as possible, so you're
never prepared for every scenario. The new buildings, you know,
what can codes cover you for something as catastrophic as this, No,
(06:59):
so ahole thing is you have to be away of
scrambling jets. Now, if anybody's into an airspace that they
shouldn't be there, and are they prepared to take them down?
At that point, you gotta just really worry about that.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Retired New York PD Lieutenant Commander Joe Cardinelli and you
are nine to eleven first responded, Joe, thank you so
much for sharing your insight, You're wisdom with us this
morning on Alabama's Morning News
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Anytime, and thank you for covering it.
We were talking about, of course, the horrific events yesterday
that so many of us have seen that. You know,
I watched the video once because I guess I wanted
to see it with my own eyes to believe it.
But I didn't keep watching it because I kept posting
over and over and over again Charlie Kirk being hit
by that bullet, and I couldn't stand to keep watching it,
so so I don't. I've scrolled past that now. But
(00:21):
we're talking about another event that happened twenty years ago,
twenty four years ago on this day, which was nine
to eleven, the attack on the World Trade Center. And
I have to give it, you know, and don't take
this as praise, because it's very far from praise, but
Osama bin Laden it was. It was an ingenious and evil,
ingenious plan that he had that you take two planes
(00:43):
and two towers, and you fly one plane into one tower,
and you get every camera. And remember this is back
before everybody carried around a cell phone to where they
could at any given moment, you know, get a video live.
You know, you actually had to wait for the big
mainstream four main four you know, news networks appoint it
camera at something to get you a live picture. So
we're looking, we were looking at We're all watching together
(01:06):
as we heard there was a fire at the top
of one of the World Trade Center buildings. We said,
oh my gosh, a fire, what could it be. We're
all watching in real time, not like we went back
and watched it aft in real time. As that second
plane banked and made that turn and then hit the
South Tower. I remember, I remember what I was thinking
when I saw first split second. What ran through my
mind was no, wonder planes hit the buildings. Look how
(01:28):
close it let him go? And then I realized that
wasn't an accident. That was very very on purpose. And
from there we realized just how real and how on
purpose it was. Joining me now to talk about this
is Joe Cardinelli. Joe that day, How quickly did you
realize what was happening?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, I think a bunch of us realized it immediately,
because I don't forget. We were still remembering the attempt
made in ninety four to take that building down. They
were very close to doing it, you know, And now
they we're looking at this and a plane just doesn't
hit the World Trade Ending like that. We have hundreds
of planes flying around all the time for you know,
(02:09):
four different airports, you know, and they avoid that, you know,
they know to avoid that. That was intentional, especially the
altitude of it and everything well below the altitude. So
we started mobilizing at that point. We mobilized, you know,
from Long Island, started going in by the time we
got onto the sun State Parkway, which was already backing
up from everything going on and the second plane hit,
(02:31):
and then get into Brooklyn where the base was, and
then jump on the water taxis or the or the
ferries you know that were going They mobilized all of
them like a little armada go in there because that
was one of the only ways, you knew, to get
people out of their fast But once again we got
people back that were fleeing, but they were expecting many
people to go to the hospital and everything that just
(02:52):
didn't happen because everybody was taken down, you know, the
majority was taken down with the buildings.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wasn't there a major commitmmunications center there at the World
Trade Center that was obviously taken out of command, thus
kind of paralyzing the ability for communication to happen within
first responders.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It is, but you want. It was a massive response,
a quick response. I applaud them to this day. I mean,
we lost three hundred and forty three firefighters, we lost
twenty three foom and we lost so many you know,
men and women that day. But firefighters heard about it
over their radios and they responded, you know, firefighters that
were off duty were responding. Anyways, that's where you get
(03:32):
tunnel to towers rum with. You know, Steven Silliatt went
from UH through the battery tunnel with his gear on.
They have the run every year for him to the
towers into the building. And then you had people that
went in the building and came out and came out.
So it was it was, it was insane. No, they
kept going back in because nobody was saying all these out.
(03:56):
They suspected that it was going to be catastrophic, but
they did they have more But even knowing that they
didn't care back into the building, get more people out,
and the fact that they might have saved another dozen,
two dozen, whatever was worth it for them and Joe
and once again, you know, I mean we go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I was just saying, I don't think anyone realized that
the buildings would fall. I think we knew there was
a fire, We knew we needed to get people out,
but we didn't think the structures were going to completely collapse.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Now, well, a lot of people didn't think that, you know,
I myself, I thought they had time. But I think
the first responders in the fire department, emergency service guys
and women that were in there, they knew it because
the heat, you know, the heat was something else too.
I mean that was captured from out of space, you know,
in space right, you know, from the satellites and thermal
(04:48):
imaging on that was incredible. The helicopters that landed the
first time on the ninety four that tried to get
over there couldn't even get near the building. I think
they had a very good idea about this. They had
a very good idea that that building could have came
down in ninety four had that van been placed in
another area underneath the trade center, it would have possibly
(05:11):
taken it down back then. So what I'm saying is
they knew that the danger was incredible, and they still
went back in. That's what first responders do, That's what
cops and firemen do on an everyday basis. That's what
as workers do. That's what people in general do. You know,
(05:31):
you had a lot of military, retired military people that
were in that building that knew what they had to
do with security guards, people that were familiar with that building.
One of the things was after the first bombing was
a fireman told his daughter, they ever tell you stay
inside the building, you tell unscrew you and walk out.
And that woman did that. And she was on the
Brooklyn Bridge walking across when the buildings came down, and
(05:54):
she thanked her father a million times over for that,
you know, because there's just you learn so many things
from that day, but you're not prepared for that, but
you respond anyways.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
How many of the lessons we learned that day did
we apply in the construction and the planning and the
plans that contingent plans are in place with One World Trade,
the new building that has built been built next to the.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Site, Well, I think I think they today we're even
though it's still reactive to things that could happen. You know,
we have to be prepared for those things. I mean,
we're proactive on another level that we never had before,
where everybody's working them with eyes and ears out there
with other countries and everything, and you're waiting to hear
the chatter and sometimes you just don't hear it. That's
(06:35):
why I worry about today with what came across the border,
you know, for sleeper cells, because they had sleeper cells
here that want to even do the subway system in
New York. All right, but you know, let's be real,
you can only be as prepared as possible, so you're
never prepared for every scenario. The new buildings, you know,
what can codes cover you for something as catastrophic as this, No,
(06:59):
so ahole thing is you have to be away of
scrambling jets. Now, if anybody's into an airspace that they
shouldn't be there, and are they prepared to take them down?
At that point, you gotta just really worry about that.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Retired New York PD Lieutenant Commander Joe Cardinelli and you
are nine to eleven first responded, Joe, thank you so
much for sharing your insight, You're wisdom with us this
morning on Alabama's Morning News
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Anytime, and thank you for covering it.
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