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May 13, 2025 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey. Joining us in the studio now is a special
guest that I contacted and said I would love for
you to come in. His name is Michael Stapleton, better
known as TikTok King, and Michael, welcome in. Good to
see you, buddy. I appreciate you being here.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good being here, man.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
So we're not going to say the name of your
podcast or your TikTok page more than once. It's called
Pissed Off Nation, and so we're just going to go
p od Nation from now because you know, kids are
sometimes rng with parents and are but your point of
view on some things and your intellect and everything that
you brought in some of the different TikTok videos I've watched.

(00:36):
I said, I want to meet this guy, and I
haven't come in here, So pleasure to have you in
the studio. Welcome. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
We're just trying to keep people informed and keep everybody
going in the direction of the no and not falling
for just the media and what they're bringing to you know,
it's you've got to be informed. In this day and time.
We've got a lot of pair and a lot of
speed bumps facing us as a nation. We're not out
of this yet. Everybody thinks kas Trump got elected, this

(01:05):
is over. This is far from over. Yeah, fight of
our lives. Well, I want to talk to you about
a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
If you can stay, We're gonna take a quick break
and He's gonna be with us for a little bit here,
and if you'd like to weigh in, come on in.
Our phones are always open, you know that. Two O
five four three nine nine three seven two four three
nine nine three seven two. Michael, stay with us, buddy.
You're gonna be here for most of the hour and
we're gonna have some guests on and just chat about
some things going on. What's the top of mind with
you in this country? And you know, let's just call it.

(01:32):
You're you're not a Joe Biden fan, no, sir. So
you're gonna work well here in the studio with us,
and uh, we're gonna be chatting in a little bit.
I want to talk to you about k ivy as now.
She's bringing something and she's a very popular governor by
the way, top five in the in the country. But
there are some things you know that, and I'm kind
of with you on this blanket immunity thing that she's

(01:54):
bringing up.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
For law enforce and so yeah, that is very concerning.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
In the studio with us is uh old nation TikToker
with how many followers you have now, I mean you're huge.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
One hundred and forty five thousand on one account.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
We have five accounts currently up and running because of
the liberal bias that is TikTok.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know, I learned something about TikTok is that if
somebody complains about you or anybody, they can just throw
out allegations like, oh, well there's nudity on his page,
or he talks about you know, things can harm people,
And all's TikTok's got to hear is that allegation, and
they'll shut you down without even investigating it.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
The other night, had a full room, seventy five people
in there. Everybody was we were all talking, and it
come up, your favorite rock group, what's the first concert
you ever went to? Mine was Megadeath in Suicidal Tendencies. Oh,
just the word immediately, Oh you just say the word suicide.

(02:53):
And it's also not a seven day ban, so they
banned you. So seven days. And if you get too
conservative out there, as well. I mean you start pushing,
you know, hard conservative values and being political against the
left and making a loud noise with a lot of followers.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
They don't like that either.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's not so much it's not so much the conservative
values as much as it is the truth when you
bring the facts and validity to it. I mean to
use like FBI numbers. I've lost five pages over one thing,
missing children in America. And when I quote the FBI
numbers and their statistics and use it against them, they

(03:32):
take my accounts, Perma band.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's crazy. No wonder you got so many accounts. You
just got to have some difference so you can always
be out there and getting the truth out. Is you say,
let me ask you about the Governor Ivy situation here.
Now she's introducing this bill that I guess is in
a nutshell broadening the immunity for law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Correct blanket immunities.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
My understanding. Yeah, And look, I don't know why you
have to do that. I'm not in favor of that.
I think you got to have accountability. And if you
just have a rubber stamp that says you can't come
after anybody or hold anybody accountable, no, no. Now, I
understand there are some things against law enforcement that are
kind of frivolous and they've got a target on their back.

(04:15):
And you know, ever since this administration prior to current one,
decided to be loose on criminals and allow this to happen,
and that to happen, the morale dropped in police departments,
the recruiting dropped in police departments, and men and women
in blue honestly fearing for their lives to go out
there and do their jobs. So, you know, I get

(04:36):
trying to protect law enforcement in a way, but blanket immunity.
I don't know what your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I've been engaged with law enforcement the entirety of my life,
and I've always been under this fundamental ideological view. If
you have to rule from behind a fence, you don't
need to be ruling, you don't need to be governing.
If we have to go to build a fence around
the Capitol or the White House, that individual doesn't need

(05:03):
to rule or doesn't need to govern. And it's the
same way with our law enforcement to this day. Is
much stuff that's happened in my life. I've never seen
a good officer that used or needed qualified immunity.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Right, if they're doing their job and they're good, they
don't need it.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, if you're not beating people up or doing adverse stuff,
or you know, planting narcotics on somebody just for an
arrest or whatever it is that you know, get these
people in trouble. But as well, we have to stop
the investigations that are I investigate me to clear me
of all wrongdoing. That's got to stop. There has to
be an oversight into law enforcement that that is impartial.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, I think things are changing. The tide is changing.
The woke wave is about petered out. A big chunk
of it has anyway, with the election of Donald Trump,
and I think that trickles down just like a lot
of things too. And these you know, Tom Holman's saying
he's coming after the bad guys in these cities and
telling folks that are sanctuary city governors and mayors that

(06:02):
if you stand in our way, well then you know
we're going back to following federal law. If you're going
to get in the way of that, that's obstruction. So
same thing with police officers. I think the wave and
respect for law enforcement is coming back a little.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Bit if you are involved in criminality in the United
States government when it comes to illegals or running sanctuary cities,
there's an eight hundred pound monster on the loose and
he's coming for you.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
His name is Tom Halt, his name is Tom Holman.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, enjoying our conversation with Michael Stapleton, who is a
TikTok king. I mean, I don't know how many followers.
You got, one hundred and forty five thousand followers, over
a one point five million likes, and you know, you
just kind of standing for the American way and where
we're at these days and the changes that need to
take place. And I got to tell you one of
the things that we touched on right before the break

(06:48):
was this whole due process that the Democrats are screaming
on when we're trying to shut down the border. Go
back to the legal way to become a United States citizen.
We have immigration laws in place. Now, Hey, we're not
anti immigrants, we're you know, just do it the right way.
We can't just have open borders and flood this nation
because it brings in all kinds of bad elements, i e.

(07:11):
The gangs that we've been seeing here. So now Tom
Holman has been named the borders are. You've got Christy
nom You've got Pam Bondy. And Donald Trump said, look,
safety of America is what we're going back to. We're
going to do the border the proper way, the legal way,
and those that are bad guys in this country we're
getting out, We're shipping out. And here comes this whole

(07:33):
big due process thing. Judges are going rogue and jumping
in the middle of Donald Trump's what he was elected
on to clean up in this country number one issue,
make us safe again, and it's just become nothing but
a court battle. Now. So your thoughts on this whole
thing about oh, due process, I would think that they've
all got their ducks in a row before they go

(07:53):
pick somebody up.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Garcia is the main one that they're screaming about no
due process. But my argument on that side is where
was due process for twenty six people that were incarcerated
from jan six that literally weren't involved, that were outside
people and never got the due process afforded to an
American citizen that has a natural birthright to our nation.

(08:16):
But yet the fact that this guy Garcia is a
terrorist and associated with gain affiliations and everything else, and
they're fighting so hard to get this one guy back,
for this to be their poster child.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, ye the Maryland man.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, yes, this guys thirteen.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, bat. I mean he's got MS thirteen tatsol. I mean,
he's got a wife that's screaming domestic violence, I mean
bad domestic violence. He's got a history of. You know,
it gets deeper and deeper and deeper. The more focus
that's put on this guy, the more mud we're fighting
about this guy, and we want to send him back
to where he came from. And all of a sudden,
you know that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I think see there's a lot going on here.
When you look at the Q movement, where is the
fact in the validity in Q? It all rests upon JFK.
If he is alive, Q is real. If he is not,
Q is not real QAnon. But that's just the basis
of it. So when you use that kind of logic,

(09:14):
if you take the math and just show them to
share numbers, if we go with a center number of
twenty million illegals estimated to have crossed our southern border,
you look at the populace of my state, Alabama five
point two five point four million, Louisiana's four point eight Mississippi,
I mean Mississippi's four point eight, Louisiana's five point four
the greater metropolitan Area of Atlanta, Georgia's five point eight million.

(09:37):
You just encompassed. You have to take up a large
proximity of the southeastern United States to encompass what has
come across our southern border. And we haven't begun to
see the ramifications. This hasn't hit our schools, this hasn't
hit our welfare system, this hasn't hit our medical industry yet,
and when it does, we're going to be in a
lot of trouble. This is twenty million people. You just

(09:59):
built three four brand new states.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And logistically, with that many people, it's impossible to put
the toothpaste back in the tube. There's no way we're
gonna have all these people all right, y'all going back
and now come on into the legal line. It's not
gonna happen. And you're right now, the pressure on all
those different systems in our society. We're just seeing the
tip of the iceberg with the crime, because it's grabbing
the most headlines and it's the most vicious. But what's

(10:23):
going to happen with the medical situation, the job situation,
with what's going on in the school situation. I mean,
you're right, we're about to feel it, Like we know,
it's going to take a decade, maybe decade.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Everybody's complaining about the fact that the administrate, the previous administration,
let's say it was feeding them, housing them, giving them money. Okay,
Well let's do the reverse side of that. What if
we stopped feeding them today you're talking about twenty million
people thrown out on the streets, without housing, without medical
without a car, without transportation, without a job. What do

(10:57):
these people now do? What's the infection just disease that
becomes America? Then you really hurt us. If everybody's complaining
about what they're given these individuals that's come over here.
If you stop giving that at this point you've got them, oh,
then it explodes. Yeah, it would have to. Yeah, self

(11:17):
preservation kicks in at some moment.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, yeah, the basic of survival, you know, yeah, one
hundred percent, and the negative effects that come with that
in desperate times is horrendous. And like I said, I
think we're seeing the tip of the iceberg. This is
starting to show up in people's backyards. It is, And
everybody says, well, not in my neighborhood. You know, I
haven't seen it. I know it's in the big cities. Well,
it's a.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Matter of Silicaga, Alabama is not the big city.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Silicaga has had a lot of hard times.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, it's here. It's talking in the break here with Michael,
who is a big TikToker, and I love your points
of view and you just tell it how it is.
And this being broadcast radio, I appreciate your attention to
not being as colorful with your language just as you
can be sometimes. But I'm good with it. I'm good
with it. So we're talking about during the break there

(12:07):
with news, what's happening with Israel and Hamas and Palestinians
and where we're atting this whole thing here and where
Israel stands biblically. You're a Christian, you and I've had
that absolutely, And I was rebaptized in my forties, and
I always knew who Jesus was, but I wasn't a follower.
And there's a big difference between being a believer and

(12:27):
a follower. I mean, the devil knows who he is,
he believes Jesus is who he is, but he ain't
following him. So I made that decision to recommit my
life to Christ, and the Holy Spirit changed my I
mean I had a physical thing happened to me in
my body when I said I'm in, you know, and
Billy Graham was I was just stumbling through TV watching shows,
and Judy and the kids were at the mall shopping

(12:49):
and I just locked in on one of his crusades
at the Big Stadium and he said, all right, if
you want to change your life and you're sick and
tired of being sick and tired, you know, all you
have to do is say I'm in. I just raised
my hands, and I'm telling you that there was a
wave of something that came over my body. And ever
since then, I've I've been a check called the Holy Ghost. Amen.
So talk to me about your dad said you said

(13:12):
he was a big influence you in your walk with Christ.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Uh. My dad met a woman at Chrysler that was
Penecostal holiness and I thought she was a devil and
it took my daddy as I knew it away from me,
and so I picked up the King James version of
the Bible, and I was fixing to prove this devil wrong.
I was fixing to show my daddy that this devil
was wrong. And the only thing that I did was

(13:36):
enlightened myself by reading the Word and come to the
conclusions that you know, Jesus is not only real, but
baptism is forever. And without water baptism, we can't enter
the gates of heaven because without water baptism you can't
be in filled with the Holy Spirit. And the Holy
Ghost is in you, you go. If it's not, you won't.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Bring it, breach it.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's pretty simple. But with wanting to change my dad's
life because of a net, it actually led me to
Biblical scriptures and the way to read the Word. The
word is so important the letters. Every individual letter has
a meaning that is attached to a word. Look five,

(14:20):
the Lord tells Peter to cast out his nets. Peter
cast it out a net in eighty says when Peter
saw it, he fell down at his knees and said,
for Oh Lord, depart from me. I'm a sinful man.
The it that Peter saw was he disobeyed God. He
was commanded to cast out his nets. Yea one s
almost sank his ships.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
You know, that's the You make a great point that
every time I read Bible and have done Bible studies,
and you know, we'll do different books in different studies
that I've been through, and then you come back to
it in another study and read it again. This is
why I tell new Christians that are just coming on
board to say I want to know more about it.
The first thing I tell him is read John three times,

(14:58):
because every time I go back to to it, I
bring I learned something. There's something else that's come out
of that reading that I didn't catch the first time,
or didn't understand this first time, or didn't interpret right
the first time. I think every time you go to
the Word and spend time with it, there's something.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
New that's That's not a three time deal, though, that's
an every time deal. If you read the Bible, the
Bible says, it says a few things for us to understand. One,
there's only one interpretation to the Bible, sickle, fear and trimly.
But two it's the living Word of God and John
one it says in the beginning was the word. The
word was with God, the word was God. In fourteen

(15:36):
the word was made flesh. The word is living. It
is a living word of God. It will change your
perception every time you read it, every time.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I honored to have Michael Stapleton and here in the
studio with us. Is probably one of the biggest platforms
out there on TikTok and doing quite well. And I like, well,
I know there's you know, celebrities with millions and millions,
but I mean, you got one hundred and forty five
thousand followers over a million five likes on topics that
you discussing. So I was watching some of your videos.
I'm like, this guy's pretty interesting. I love to reach
out to him. Maybe you can call the show sometime.

(16:06):
And you sat up be glad to and you I
was just blown away at the fast response, and you
were talking about it, and you said, well, you know, I
don't usually you know, check these things out and see
these types of comments, but for some reason, yours just
popped right right here in my face. I mean, yeah,
I got I'm glad you responded.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I got on the main page yesterday and I just
went over there to check on a few things, and
everybody will tell you if you want to get in
touch with me, I've probably got in excess of fourteen
hundred TikTokers in my device. I mean, I'm very I'm
not the king of TikTok. There's many platforms much larger
than mine. But I will say this and they'll stand

(16:48):
by this. There's nobody on TikTok that's as accessible as
I am. We grew up in a generation of where
we put it in a phone book and our mother
stood on it to get stuff off the top of
the refrigerator, you know. So uh well, your.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Response to me was in less than sixty seconds, and
I'm like wow, And I saw that two five six
area code. I said, this guy's from Alabama.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well he's a he's a godfearing man, and we're kind
of thinking that God had a hand in this because
I'm not on the big page very often unless I'm
posting some stuff, because all my activities on the smaller
pages because you get beat up on TikTok. Liberal tears
are a real thing. Joe Biden derangement.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And we're not talking crying, yeah no, but.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm just not ever there and it just popped up
in my face. And then as soon as I put
my phone number in, I seen your icon drop. You
immediately read that and then like within five minutes were
on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's just not
ever happened. That's not how my tic type page operates.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, it's been a pleasure having you here for this hour,
and I'd love to have you back if you can
come back sometime. And you know, I'm glad to I
can sider a friend. Now. Good to meet you.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
You on the radio five days a week.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I am money.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Let's just make it happen. Bab big here six, I
am biscuits.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Look, don't start throwing food at me. You'll be back
here tomorrow at five point fifty five. Ready to go?
Well Michael Stapleton follow him on it to his TikTok page.
Is he owed Nation pe owed.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
P If you look up hashtag p on you'll find.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Me piste off nation is and uh a pleasure to
meet you and my best of your wife. Uh she's
a nurse here in town. Yes, and my best to
you and we'll be in touch and have you back.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Absolutely. I really appreciate it, and

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Thank you for the biscuits too appree Yes,
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