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December 8, 2025 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Anna Davis joins, it's not from the Federation of for

(00:02):
American Immigration Reform on the President pausing some immigration applications
for a lot of people. Hannah, welcome in, thanks for being.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Here, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
So when the President decided what nineteen countries have put
and been put on hold rather as far as even
applying for those folks to come into this country, I
guess this is based on the threat to our nation.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's exactly right. These nineteen non European countries are considered
high risk, and so what the President has done is
basically banned applications from these nineteen countries. The majority of
them are in the Middle East. And under this new policy,
it also means that people who are already here from
those said countries might have their cases re reviewed and
they might have to leave as well.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Meaning Alano Mar. What was that meaning Alano Mar Somalian
women in our Congress.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh, yes, Somalia is one of the nineteen countries, so
as well as Afghanistan, the Republic of Congo, things like that.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I do know.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
A lot of legal scholars are concerned over whether or
not this policy will stick. We've seen the Trump administration
have policies before, say, for example, birthright citizenship that has
gone back and forth in the courts, and things are
paused for a long time. And so there are a
few things that the administration could do with this policy
to in short sticks because honestly, court challenges are probably

(01:20):
going to be inevitable.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, the president invoking this this is not new, right,
this has been in play for quite some time in
our country.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, the travel bands are quite common. He's not the
first president to do it, and he won't be the last.
It's just that they usually challenge and so there are
specific things that he could do to ensure that the
stays around that this band has taken seriously. I guess
you could say. I mean, he could invoke parts of
US Code that state that any alien that comes into
the US could be deemed detrimental if they come from

(01:50):
a country that's high risk. Unfortunately, if we see that
a lot like the DC shooter, the National Guard shooting,
he was from Afghanistan, that's one of the banned country. Now,
there's also things he could do. Christin nom the DHS
secretary right now, she's delegated authority to people below her
to approve asilent applications and immigration benefit packages. But she

(02:12):
could revoke that and she could actually make sure that
her personal signature is on every single review of any
immigration application from any country. Now, would this take a
long time, yes, but also the vetting would be a
lot more secure. People would be thoroughly vetted. And so
that's something that also the administration could do to really
bolster that they mean what they say when it comes

(02:33):
to this, and so they can't just have someone take
you to court over this ban and then it falls through.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
You know, there's a lot of pushback, as we know
legally from everybody and anybody that doesn't like President Trump
on any move he makes or any policy he wants
to implicate or you know, put in place. Here's what
I'm concerned about is, you know, things can change from
president to president, from Supreme Court to Supreme Court. You know,
you look at what took place back in nineteen thirty,

(03:00):
I guess it was where you know, making a decision
by the courters now being looked at. You know, in
a couple of cases that one is the birthright citizenship
that's going to be pushed back, but also the ability
for the president to fire a government worker with the FTC,
you know, one of the commissioners there, And you know,
I talked with John Decker, who's on the Supreme Court

(03:22):
bar and also our White House correspondent on this earlier
this morning, and he actually thinks that the court may
rule in favor of the president, you know, having that
power to remove a government employee like the person from
the FTC. But that also means if this happens with him,
then it will happen with a Democrat president down the
road if he or she sees fit to do that.
So where do you think they're going to land on

(03:45):
this case here, because I think there's gotten gotta be
some pushback on, you know, having the right process go
in place before you start banning nineteen countries and YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, I mean that's exactly right. I mean, anything that
the Supreme Court decides that this that it can do,
the next president could as well, regardless of what side
of the aisle they're on. But at the end of
the day, the government, I'm sorry, the Supreme Court would
rule on the president's ability to do something, whether it
be firing government employees, banning nations from applying for asylum,
or anything like that, And it's really not favoring a

(04:19):
president over another. It's just following the rule of law.
Right now, what Trump is doing is following the rule
of law. He has delegated authority to do this, and
I'm sorry, twinterary authority to do this. And the Supreme Court,
if it takes this case up, if someone sues and
it goes off with it to the Supreme Court, still
recognize that. And it'll be interesting. You mentioned birthright citizenship.

(04:40):
The Supreme Court is going to take that up now too.
You know, at first people thought that they wouldn't, and
so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
But that'll that'll set the blueprint for future administrations and
at the end of the day, they're just going to
side with the rule of law. And right now, when
it comes to this travel band, I do think Trump
is following the authority that he has invested in him
as the president.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, name in then, Hannah David, thank you so much.
I sure do appreciate you. Wouldn't be interesting if they
rel looked at Alano Mars case and then he has
actually allowed to, you know, look at folks that are
already hear from these nineteen countries, and revere the cases again,
and deem it necessary that she not only leaves Congress,
but she leaves the country. All right, let's all pray together.
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