November 8, 2024 • 29 mins
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and historian William Haldeman join us to give context to the Presidential win this week, Then AL congressmen Gary Palmer joins us with what the congressional priorities for Alabama will be after the new year.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This week, we saw an historic election yielding the flip
of political control in Washington, d C. But it reminded
me of another historic election I witnessed thirty years ago. Hello,
I'm John Mounts and this is Viewpoint, Alabama on the
Alabama Radio Network and my next guest this week is
none other than the host of Newt's World, the podcast
available on the iHeartRadio app as well as his website,
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Gingrich three to sixty dot com, the man who I
will still call mister Speaker Nuke Gingrich. Welcome to Viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well. I am delighted to be with you and always
excited to talk with friends in Alabama.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I was only in high school when President Bill Clinton
took the White House in nineteen ninety three. He did
so not so much with the will of the American people,
but doing large part to h Ross Pero, splitting the
Conservative vote. Once at the helm, President Clinton, with the
help of First Lady Hillary Clinton, proposed radical policy changes
in America, among the most unpopular universal health care, and
less than two years later, in the midterm election, while
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the President was not on the ballot, his party's policies were.
The result was the Republicans taking the House in under
your leadership launching the contract with America Newt What made
that contract with America so motivating for so many?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, first of all, let me be honest and say
that we were standing on Ronald Reagan's shoulders. I'd help
do a contract in nineteen eighty where we had a
Capital Steps event with Reagan, the first one in history.
I thought it would work. I thought it would focus attention.
Every issue on the contract was seventy percent or more.
I wrote a book about all this, called March to
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the Majority. It took sixteen years to create the first
Republican majority in forty years, and then when we got
re elected in ninety six, it was the first time
since nineteen twenty eight that House Republicans got reelected. And
the whole answer was policy. People wanted to balance budget,
people wanted tax guts, people wanted welfare reform. They favored
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what we were doing at a policy level, not some prargument,
but actual day to day policies, and I think that
impact we aiated a majority. It's really interesting I'm seeing
about this today. For forty years before we won, there
had been no Republican majority, and for sixty eight years
there had been no re elected Republican majority, but we
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so shattered the old order in nineteen ninety four that
we actually have held the House more than the Democrats
ever since. And again the evidence tonight is we're going
to keep the House once again. And that is such
a profound shift towards conservatism and towards reform and away
from the left which had dominated for so long. But
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it required focusing on issues, which, by the way, is
how Donald Trump won the election this year. It was
the issue differentiation. Do you want more inflation or less?
Do you want less expensive gasoline or more expensive? You
go down a whole list of things, and again and
again people said, you know, whatever I think about Trump's personality,
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I think he is a better president. I think my
life will be better, and I think I agree with
his principles.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
New when you talk about principles that are going to
be reflected in the policies that will be carried out,
you often hear this buzzword bipartisan. It's used as euphemism
for political compromise. It's seen us a good thing, but
not always. When should the party empower compromise and yield
and when should they wield the power, the mandate that
was given to them by the win. You know, Donald
Trump won the presidency not just in the electoral college.
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He won the presidency by a plurality of votes, the
popular vote, giving him a mandate to do what he
thinks is right. So much in the same way you
did with a contract with America.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I think when you have the votes, you move forward.
I think when you can, it's healthy to include the
other side as long as they're moving where you want
to go. And when we passed welfare reform, for example,
and we established a work requirement, we ended up splitting
the Democrats fifty percent each way. We got one hundred
and one four our bill and a hundred one against.
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But we didn't compromise on the core concept of a
work requirement and of helping people get out of poverty,
and of changing the welfare offices from dependency officers to
job basically to job officers to help people find jobs.
But we said within that framework, of course, we'll listen
to everybody. So I also think you look for things
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where you're not automatically opposed, but there's not a party position.
For example, we had a bill to create an Africa
Free trade zone to encourage economic development in Africa. Both
parties were foreign so you find a way to write
it together. And then I would say, be bipartisan as
often as you can without giving up your values and
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your core commitments.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was speaking with someone on Wednesday morning who was
excited about Donald Trump winning the election, and I said
to him, you realize now that nothing has yet been accomplished.
While Republicans have the ball, now they actually have to
get to the end zone and score. Pardon the football analogy.
We are talking to Alabama here. How quickly do you
see changes starting and how quickly how sweeping do you
think the changes will be from Donald Trump and his administration.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, I think they will have six hundred executive orders
the first week. I think you'll see dramatic change started.
I think that the Senate Republicans have already indicated they're
going to start hearings on January third for all of
the nominees to try to get the cabinets build and
so forth. I think there'll be a huge effort to
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pass a very large tax cut bill and tend to
go towards deregulation, the things that will create opportunity for jobs.
And for small business and for middle class working Americans.
I think all those things are going to happen very fast.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
New When you were the Speaker, you dealt with a
lot of opposition from the other side of the aisle,
and I'm sure there'll be more of that when we
try and get policies through in Congress. What kind of
stall tactics do you imagine the left in the minority
will practice and try and take against Doc Trump's agenda.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, in the Senate, you have a lot better chance
to slow things down because the Senate rules in the
House that if you have a unified Republican majority, and
that's a real challenge. They're about fifteen very very conservative
members who seem to think that voting mail is a
virtue even when they're in charge, and that's just you know,
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hopefully President Trump will be able to get through to
them and convince them that we're now the governing party.
We have to actually pass something. We can't just say
no and go home. But that I think that Speaker
Johnson may have as big a problem on his right
as he will have with Democrats. And that's really unfortunate
because we have a great, amazing opportunity to pass very
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profound legislation in the next two years, and if we
do it right, we will have reset this government towards
being governed by the people and towards economic growth and
opportunity in a way that people would have thought impossible
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Speaker Nuke Gingrich, host of newts World. The podcast available
on the iHeartRadio app and at your website. Gingrichtree sixty
dot com. Thank you so much for taking the time
to talk with us here in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
This is the Alabama Radio Network. My name is John Mounts.
We're talking about the presidential election and Donald Trump going
to the White House and some of the things to
bear in mind. So as we look forward, let's look
backwards at previous administrations. My next guest is a presidential
historian and scholar with extensive leadership experience, serving in the
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White House, as the Domestic Policy Council and the seventh
Floor of the US Department of State, and as a
member of the Governor's Senior staff. He is currently serving
as the Chief Strategy Officer at the University of Pittsburgh.
William Haldeman, Welcome to Viewpoint, Alabama.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So unlike many presidential historians, you have extensive White House
with high level experience, working across multiple administrations and party lines.
How do this firsthand knowledge of the job inform your
recent searching writing this book?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think it's invaluable to have these types of experience.
You look at folks like Joris Kurn's Goodwin or Arthur
Selectionion or Junior who are married their academic credentials with
high level government experience. I think it's invaluable to have it.
You walk the hallways where decision has been made, You've
been in rooms where decision making is happening. I think
you see how interagency processes work and how decisions are made,
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how there's deputy committees or principal committees at the White House,
and how they shape shape decision matrix for a president's decision.
I think it's invaluable to have that. You have a
sense of the pressures that presidents face when making these
types of decisions. And I think that this certainly having
that experience colors this book, and I truly think it's
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an invaluable an invaluable skill set to have, and I
think it's it's my hope that this book reinvigorates that
process in the historical field.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, William, you know, when you talk about the executive branch,
one of the things the executive does is he makes
executive decisions, big decisions, anything from tear down this wall
to decisions about the Louisiana purchase and all the way
across the spectrum. When you think about things like that,
what do decisions like that have in common? And what
about when presidents have failed to act? How has that
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worked out for our country?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, exactly the point. So I think big decisions matter.
I think you see someone like George Washington Ins for instance,
he lost more battles than he won during the American Revolution,
but he had the inate ability to make the right
call that when it matters.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
He was the person you wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
With the ball in their hands, ball in the hands,
with the game on the line. He made the big
decisions right, so he got those rights. So his decision
to step down after two terms in office in seventeen
ninety six, in my view, is the most important decision
any president has made. But there's also a litany of
presidents who didn't rise up to to meet the moment.
You look at the presidence it's just James Buchanan and
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the list of presidents before him in the run up
to the Civil War, they just didn't didn't do what
was necessary to keep the union together. You look at
someone like Herbert Hoover who didn't, who didn't instill confidence
from the American people in terms of how to handle
the Great Depression, whereas FDR stepped in as a man
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of extensive confidence and was able to instill that and
and and transition the country from its lowest point in
nineteen thirty three into trying to resolve the Great Depression.
But I think that there's aspects of the failure or
leaders that just didn't rise to meet.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The moment, and history is filled with those.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But there's This is why these six leaders are so
important and the lessons that they share with us because
they were able to get the right decisions. They made
the right decisions at the right time for their moment.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
William, what about leaders who have failed yet were great leaders?
For example, you brought up the Civil War and the
two generals who faced each other in the Civil War,
Robert E. Lee and Grant. There were very different men,
and a lot of historians had said that Robert E.
Lee was actually a great leader. Yet he was kind
of given an unwinnable war and because of that he failed.
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But it wasn't because of his leadership skills, it was
just because of the resources he was commanding.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Most historians would argue that Robert Lee was a great general.
But in his moment of the Civil War, if you
look at what happened in the Gettysburg, he made a
decision what was called Pickett's charge on the third day
of the Battle of Gettysburg in July third of.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
To disregard whether it was hubris, whatever it was, but
he made a charge across across a wide open field
in Gettysburg, and it was really.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
The turning point in the war.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
It was the high point for the South in the war,
and at that point the South would never go further
north in terms of any times of military progress in
the war. So, I mean there's moments where he certainly
he was a great general in terms of military tactics
and winning battles he probably should never have won.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But at his moment in eighteen sixty.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Three Dettysburg, he whether again whether it was hubris, whatever
it was, made the long call and ultimately probably cost
them the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
William how in this day and age, leadership is still
very important, but it's changed in the way that we
that our presidents exercise it because now there is so
much that goes into leading the country that is informed
not even by the Big four or CNN, you know,
the big TV media, but now it's they're informed by
TikTok and all of these social media challenges. How do
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you lead a country that seems to be changing in
its whims almost every few minutes based on social media.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I think it's interesting, it's an interesting point. But I
think that if you look at presidential history in terms
of media, right you have FDR comes into office in
nineteen thirty three at the low point of the Great Depression,
and he uses a medium a medium at the time,
the radio, at a time when there was the proliferation
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of radio. It was an opportunity presented him, an opportunity
to talk to people from Poughkeepsie to Portland in a
time when that was never possible. Everyone was talking off
the back of a train in terms of campaign stops
and talking to the nation, or you would just use
a newspaper to a change that dynamic, and then of
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John Kennedy in nineteen sixty and his use of television
to the point today where you have Donald Trump was
really an innovator around social media. So I think every generation,
or at least the last few generations, had the ability
to use communication, to use the twenty four new twenty
four hour.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
News cycle, to change, to change or to.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Advocate is the term. And I think what's needed is
a leader in that sense to do that in the
same way that an FDR, in the same way that
Kennedy did in transforming a medium to move the nation.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And I think we've seen examples of that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know, that's the first time I ever heard the
fireside chat compared to TikTok. But you make a great point,
because there are so many changes now that's happening. You
said the twenty four hours. I don't think it's twenty
four hours now. I think it's every like twenty four minutes.
It seems like in the fifteen minutes of fame, that's
too long, because so fast things happen, and then our
we have the member of a goldfish, we forget and
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so things they just disappear and we move on to
the next right shiny object. Where do you see our
country going in the future When it comes to the
way people view the leadership that's coming from the White
House and beyond, I hope they.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Look at a book like this and take a lesson
from someone like Theodore Roosevelt, who took power at forty
two years old. He was the sitting Vice president. William
McKinley was assassinated, and two or three months later he
gave a State of the Union address where he took
on two of the existential issues of his time, which
was the eradication of national resources and the growth and
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expansion of the West. Because of water and irrigation issues,
it was nearly impossible we didn't have a series of
dams and to retain water, and he took those on
at a time when that was not part of America's vernacular,
particularly in political circles. And I think there's an opportunity
we talk about where we're going. I hope that our
next president or at least takes a cue from that
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to think about what is the issue today that is going.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
To impact generations to come.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
The way tr did in terms of setting up national
parks and keeping the natural beauty of the United to say,
what is that thing, what is that policy issue that's
going to be transformational for my children and their children's
children in the same way that TR and I think
that's the lesson today.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
So I don't have a I.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Don't have a crystal ball to say where we're going,
but I would hope maybe they would lean into the
history of TR and take on one of these issues
for the benefit of.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
William Holman, thank you for taking a moment to tell
us about your book, meeting the moment. Thank you so
much for joining us today on Viewpoint Alabama.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Thanks so much, grateful to you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And this is the Alabama Radio Network. My name is
John Mounce and we spend a lot of time so
far talking about the presidency, but this week we also
had a major flip in Congress, both the Senate and
the House. Joining us next is one of the congressmen
who we're going to be sending back for another two years,
Gary Palmer, as he spoke with JT.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Congratulations on your wins, sir, nice job, Thanks you, JT.
I don't think it's a big surprise, but I think
congratulations are in order anyway.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well, I don't take anything for granted, right, So we
did our job trying to serve the people of the district.
And it's a new district for me, and in many
respects with attag and Elmore and cousin part of Talladega Springs.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
And yeah, one of the first.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Things I did when I got elected the first time
was we started hosting a quarter alliance for all the
mayors in the district. And we're going to do that again.
And I look forward to getting down and meeting all
these guys.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well, I lost you in my district. I got moved
in the new uh you know border and uh.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
There are houses for sale in the district.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I may move. I kind of miss not seeing your
name on my ballot. It wasn't there. Well, and uh,
I'm in Terry Seul's district. I did get probably half
a dozen text messages from friends in the in the
area and Hoover that said, Hey, where's Gary's name? I said,
what do you mean he goes not on my ballot.
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I said, you've heard of redistricting, right that this's took place.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I really think we need to do this over JT
the redistricting, because now you've drawn mobil in with Dothan,
and they couldn't be more different. You've drawn Mobil in
with Montgomery and obviously in Phoenix City couldn't be more different.
And I think it's a disservice to the to the
constituents in those districts, because you need districts that are contiguous. Yeah,
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but you also need them that are similar in their
interests and their needs. And what they've done is a
disservice to the constituents and those two districts.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
How are Bluff Park and the Black Belt in the
same district, Well, how many miles of separation? I mean,
we know why this was done. It was to accommodate
the black votes and black population and give better representation.
But I'm not sure that it hasn't backfired.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Well, I want every Black vote that I possibly get
because I think we have more in common than we
than differences. But at the same time, I want to
be able to work in a district where where we
have common interest Economically, infrastructure needs things like that. Yeah,
Mobile needs a bridge across the Bay, Dothan needs a
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connector to Interstate ten. It's going to be difficult to
navigate a lot of those issues.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Well, District two was you know, certainly under the microscope
and in the spotlight, which is down south in Alabama,
and Shamari Figures did defeat Caroline Dobson. I'm not surprised.
I was hoping that, you know, Dobson would would win
this being the Republican, but Shamari Figures was an Obama person,
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big support in that arena. So your thoughts on this
was a newly created district and all of this remapping
of the borders for the different districts here, So were
you surprised with that? What were your expectations in South Alabama?
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Well, I'm not surprised, but I'll say this for Caroline,
I said it last night. She is exactly the kind
of person that you want in Congress. She is an
unbelievable hard worker. She's a high character, a person of
faith and great intelligence. She would have gone in there
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because she wanted the job, not the title, and there's
too many in Congress that want the title but not
really crazy about the job. She would have been different
and she would have represented everybody in that district very ably.
I really hope that this is not her last time
to take a shot at this, because I think she
would be outstanding.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well, we pray for these leaders. That our democrat in
our state, Terry Sewell beat Robin Landaker in this district
six up here, Barry Moore once again Republican, defeated Tom Holmes,
a Democrat there. And you, of course, you know, defeating
Elizabeth Anderson, your challenger in your district. So big news
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for Donald Trump last night. Just a huge, huge win.
Prediction and prediction is you know what it is right
now is Trump is the is the winner. There's no
path for her to come back and do this two
seventy seven. As far as electoral votes go to Kamala
Harris's two twenty four, he also is leading in the
popular vote. And you look at some of the areas
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where it was, you know a bit of a surprise,
you know. I think Miami Dade was an area that
was like, I mean, what's been thirty years since the
showing that the Republicans got out of that area. Ohio
Senator elect Bernie Moreno was in Westlake, Ohio last night
as he won.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
We talked about wanting a red wave.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I think what we have tonight is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
A red, white, and blue waves.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Congressman Gary Palmer in the studio with us this morning. Gary,
let's talk about first the White House and then the Senate.
Of course, it looks like that is going to be
read that we didn't win, that the House is still
in play. Here, it seems it looks like we may
do this and we flipped. We got us Virginia as
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far as the Senate goes with mansion out, but we
may have flipped four or what are you hearing and
seeing this morning? And where do you think we are
as far as the House.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, I don't think we're going to know for a
couple of weeks at least because of the way they
do things in California, and California might determine whether or
not we have the majority. Arizona's going to be in
play as well. David Schwikert and one Siscamani are key
key races for us that they're incumbent Republicans, are both
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very capable people. We need them. California we've got I
think some of our guys are in okay shape, but
but it's California, and so we got await a couple
of weeks to find out actually who's going to win
those races. I think there are a couple still in play,
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maybe in Oregon. Loris Chavez Dreima has been really good
out in Ohio. Derrick Marron in Cochland, those are both.
I don't think Cockland's going to make it, but Maren's.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Got a shot.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
So we just got to see. We've got to get
everything counted and get it in and hopefully there may
be another opportunity in Pennsylvania. I think we're going to
pick up two seats in Pennsylvania, particularly one Matt Cartwright,
a Democrat. There has been a very tough guy beating
and I think we've beaten him. As a matter of fact,
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I just see on your board, Resident Hand's up fifty
nine so with ninety nine percent, so I think Residenthan's
going to win that.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Well, that's big in Pennsylvania, that's for sure. Were you
surprised with Pennsylvania last night? Speaking of Pennsylvania in the
big picture, No.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I talked with one of Trump's guys the night before,
and what surprised me was he told me you kind
of get an indication of trends. And he said in
Nevada that the two pro times that Trump had won,
they'd never led in the early voting, Trump was up
forty three thousand votes than the day before in Nevada
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and early voting, so that kind of gave you an
idea of where things were going.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Just an incredible when you peel back the onions and
look at some of these numbers that were starting to
pop everywhere, it was like, Wow, the seventy percent of
wrong direction in this country that Americans felt about was
coming to fruition with their votes. I mean, forget about
you know, identity politics like Democrats want to vote for,
you know, skin color, gender, you know, they were talking
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about the economy and their own homes and their finances
and America's situation in our border and where we are globally.
This country is kind of been a hot mess. And look,
I think Trump resonated more more authenticity than Kamala Harris
brought jd Vance same thing up, you know with Tim
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Wallas comparison, that it just resonated better with real Americans
and the fluff and all the political bumper sticker comments
from Kamala Harris didn't land well. I mean she wasn't
a real person to a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
What drove this election is the economy. People can't afford
the cost of living, can afford their groceries and everything
else that they got to pay for. There's some things
that we have got to do JT. On the energy front,
on the critical minerals front, creating a soft power alternative
to China. You're not going to be hearing from this
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White House that the climate is the existential threat no
to the country. No, they understand that China's the threat.
But they also understand what we've got to do to
restore respect in terms of foreign policy with our enemies
and confidence in our allies.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
There you go key part there too. I think our
allies were like, Eh, we can't count on the Big
USA anymore. Right now? This is awful and we see
the results around the globe. Gary's we get ready to wrap.
I know you've got a busy day ahead of you.
Here your thoughts on what President Trump and you know,
our Vice President JD. Vance need to do for this
country moving forward.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Here, we've got to deliver on things that we said
we would deliver on, and I think what he's going
to do he will immediately start issuing executive orders rolling
back some of the more onerous regulations that the Bide
administrations imposed what a lot of people don't realize. In
his first term, Trump cut regulations by over two hundred billion,
and that saved the average household about ten thy eight
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hundred dollars. Biden imposed two trillion in regulatory costs that
added about four to seven thousand dollars and hidden costs
to the average household. So that's that's item one. He's
also going to immediately implement plans to get that wall
built scare of border. We're going to make the tax
cuts permanent, which is going to put more capital on market,
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more jobs, better pay. And we're going to take on
inflation by opening up our inenerury resources and starting immediately to.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Bring down the All right, one last I know you
got to go. I know you got to go. I
love you, thank you for staying. But Congress and Gary
Palmer one more time, one question social Security. I'm so
sick and tired of hearing Democrats say uh yeah, yeah,
good luck. You're gonna have to work till you know,
turn one hundred and five. Social Security is going away
the Republicans. They're going to ruin it for us.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
What anytime you hear that from someone you're listening to
a liar. I mean it's like Democrats think we don't
have parents. You know that our parents don't need so
security or relatives. I mean, my family depends a lot
of my family depends on Social Security. I mean, this
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is insane to think that Republicans are going to get
rid of Social Security. They think we don't have parents
or other family members. I mean, it doesn't take a
whole lot to realize that they're lying to you. So
there are things that we need to do to make
sure that we have so security that that we can
maintain it, and we're going to do that. But this
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this whole there were so many lies told them this
this election, and I'm so proud of the American people
that they saw through most of it. But anytime someone
walks up to you and says that the Republicans are
going to get rid of SOID security, just ask them, well,
what about their family? You think they're going to take
it away from their family?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah? I don't see it either. I haven't seen anybody
explain to me how that's going to happen. I don't
know where this is coming from.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, i'll tell you what what the Democrats are going
to do if they had won this election, they were
going to get rid of women's sports by allowing transgender
men to play in it. That's some of the radical
stuff that they were pushing on this country. We were
going from a republic to a socialist regime running the country.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
So well, I got to tell you, I'm glad that you.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Fired up Jetty.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Oh, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Stupid stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You know, this is to me the garage door has
been slam shut and the padlock has been put on
it with a social wave of that you know, idiocracy
that you're talking about right there, that is in the
rear view mirror.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
By what I want every Democrat listening time stand is
Donald J. Trump has a mandate. He won the electoral college,
He's going to win the popular vote. We've picked up
the Senate. God willing will hold the House, and that
is a mandate.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Amen, and pray that he moves in the right direction
and God's will be done in all of this. All right,
very good, Thank you here, Appreciate you sticking around. Social
Security's not going anywhere, folks, don't worry about that. And
Trump is not coming after your gay marriage forget. He
doesn't care. He's got bigger fish to fry. Live your life,
don't worry. Take a deep breath, all right, hireson Gary Palmer,
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I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
You've been listening to Viewpoint Alabama, a public affairs program
from the Alabama Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The opinions expressed on Viewpoint Alabama are not necessarily those
of the staff, management, or advertisers of this station.
This week, we saw an historic election yielding the flip
of political control in Washington, d C. But it reminded
me of another historic election I witnessed thirty years ago. Hello,
I'm John Mounts and this is Viewpoint, Alabama on the
Alabama Radio Network and my next guest this week is
none other than the host of Newt's World, the podcast
available on the iHeartRadio app as well as his website,
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Gingrich three to sixty dot com, the man who I
will still call mister Speaker Nuke Gingrich. Welcome to Viewpoint.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well. I am delighted to be with you and always
excited to talk with friends in Alabama.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I was only in high school when President Bill Clinton
took the White House in nineteen ninety three. He did
so not so much with the will of the American people,
but doing large part to h Ross Pero, splitting the
Conservative vote. Once at the helm, President Clinton, with the
help of First Lady Hillary Clinton, proposed radical policy changes
in America, among the most unpopular universal health care, and
less than two years later, in the midterm election, while
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the President was not on the ballot, his party's policies were.
The result was the Republicans taking the House in under
your leadership launching the contract with America Newt What made
that contract with America so motivating for so many?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, first of all, let me be honest and say
that we were standing on Ronald Reagan's shoulders. I'd help
do a contract in nineteen eighty where we had a
Capital Steps event with Reagan, the first one in history.
I thought it would work. I thought it would focus attention.
Every issue on the contract was seventy percent or more.
I wrote a book about all this, called March to
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the Majority. It took sixteen years to create the first
Republican majority in forty years, and then when we got
re elected in ninety six, it was the first time
since nineteen twenty eight that House Republicans got reelected. And
the whole answer was policy. People wanted to balance budget,
people wanted tax guts, people wanted welfare reform. They favored
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what we were doing at a policy level, not some prargument,
but actual day to day policies, and I think that
impact we aiated a majority. It's really interesting I'm seeing
about this today. For forty years before we won, there
had been no Republican majority, and for sixty eight years
there had been no re elected Republican majority, but we
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so shattered the old order in nineteen ninety four that
we actually have held the House more than the Democrats
ever since. And again the evidence tonight is we're going
to keep the House once again. And that is such
a profound shift towards conservatism and towards reform and away
from the left which had dominated for so long. But
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it required focusing on issues, which, by the way, is
how Donald Trump won the election this year. It was
the issue differentiation. Do you want more inflation or less?
Do you want less expensive gasoline or more expensive? You
go down a whole list of things, and again and
again people said, you know, whatever I think about Trump's personality,
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I think he is a better president. I think my
life will be better, and I think I agree with
his principles.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
New when you talk about principles that are going to
be reflected in the policies that will be carried out,
you often hear this buzzword bipartisan. It's used as euphemism
for political compromise. It's seen us a good thing, but
not always. When should the party empower compromise and yield
and when should they wield the power, the mandate that
was given to them by the win. You know, Donald
Trump won the presidency not just in the electoral college.
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He won the presidency by a plurality of votes, the
popular vote, giving him a mandate to do what he
thinks is right. So much in the same way you
did with a contract with America.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, I think when you have the votes, you move forward.
I think when you can, it's healthy to include the
other side as long as they're moving where you want
to go. And when we passed welfare reform, for example,
and we established a work requirement, we ended up splitting
the Democrats fifty percent each way. We got one hundred
and one four our bill and a hundred one against.
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But we didn't compromise on the core concept of a
work requirement and of helping people get out of poverty,
and of changing the welfare offices from dependency officers to
job basically to job officers to help people find jobs.
But we said within that framework, of course, we'll listen
to everybody. So I also think you look for things
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where you're not automatically opposed, but there's not a party position.
For example, we had a bill to create an Africa
Free trade zone to encourage economic development in Africa. Both
parties were foreign so you find a way to write
it together. And then I would say, be bipartisan as
often as you can without giving up your values and
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your core commitments.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was speaking with someone on Wednesday morning who was
excited about Donald Trump winning the election, and I said
to him, you realize now that nothing has yet been accomplished.
While Republicans have the ball, now they actually have to
get to the end zone and score. Pardon the football analogy.
We are talking to Alabama here. How quickly do you
see changes starting and how quickly how sweeping do you
think the changes will be from Donald Trump and his administration.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, I think they will have six hundred executive orders
the first week. I think you'll see dramatic change started.
I think that the Senate Republicans have already indicated they're
going to start hearings on January third for all of
the nominees to try to get the cabinets build and
so forth. I think there'll be a huge effort to
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pass a very large tax cut bill and tend to
go towards deregulation, the things that will create opportunity for jobs.
And for small business and for middle class working Americans.
I think all those things are going to happen very fast.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
New When you were the Speaker, you dealt with a
lot of opposition from the other side of the aisle,
and I'm sure there'll be more of that when we
try and get policies through in Congress. What kind of
stall tactics do you imagine the left in the minority
will practice and try and take against Doc Trump's agenda.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, in the Senate, you have a lot better chance
to slow things down because the Senate rules in the
House that if you have a unified Republican majority, and
that's a real challenge. They're about fifteen very very conservative
members who seem to think that voting mail is a
virtue even when they're in charge, and that's just you know,
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hopefully President Trump will be able to get through to
them and convince them that we're now the governing party.
We have to actually pass something. We can't just say
no and go home. But that I think that Speaker
Johnson may have as big a problem on his right
as he will have with Democrats. And that's really unfortunate
because we have a great, amazing opportunity to pass very
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profound legislation in the next two years, and if we
do it right, we will have reset this government towards
being governed by the people and towards economic growth and
opportunity in a way that people would have thought impossible
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Speaker Nuke Gingrich, host of newts World. The podcast available
on the iHeartRadio app and at your website. Gingrichtree sixty
dot com. Thank you so much for taking the time
to talk with us here in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
This is the Alabama Radio Network. My name is John Mounts.
We're talking about the presidential election and Donald Trump going
to the White House and some of the things to
bear in mind. So as we look forward, let's look
backwards at previous administrations. My next guest is a presidential
historian and scholar with extensive leadership experience, serving in the
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White House, as the Domestic Policy Council and the seventh
Floor of the US Department of State, and as a
member of the Governor's Senior staff. He is currently serving
as the Chief Strategy Officer at the University of Pittsburgh.
William Haldeman, Welcome to Viewpoint, Alabama.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So unlike many presidential historians, you have extensive White House
with high level experience, working across multiple administrations and party lines.
How do this firsthand knowledge of the job inform your
recent searching writing this book?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think it's invaluable to have these types of experience.
You look at folks like Joris Kurn's Goodwin or Arthur
Selectionion or Junior who are married their academic credentials with
high level government experience. I think it's invaluable to have it.
You walk the hallways where decision has been made, You've
been in rooms where decision making is happening. I think
you see how interagency processes work and how decisions are made,
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how there's deputy committees or principal committees at the White House,
and how they shape shape decision matrix for a president's decision.
I think it's invaluable to have that. You have a
sense of the pressures that presidents face when making these
types of decisions. And I think that this certainly having
that experience colors this book, and I truly think it's
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an invaluable an invaluable skill set to have, and I
think it's it's my hope that this book reinvigorates that
process in the historical field.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, William, you know, when you talk about the executive branch,
one of the things the executive does is he makes
executive decisions, big decisions, anything from tear down this wall
to decisions about the Louisiana purchase and all the way
across the spectrum. When you think about things like that,
what do decisions like that have in common? And what
about when presidents have failed to act? How has that
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worked out for our country?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, exactly the point. So I think big decisions matter.
I think you see someone like George Washington Ins for instance,
he lost more battles than he won during the American Revolution,
but he had the inate ability to make the right
call that when it matters.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
He was the person you wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
With the ball in their hands, ball in the hands,
with the game on the line. He made the big
decisions right, so he got those rights. So his decision
to step down after two terms in office in seventeen
ninety six, in my view, is the most important decision
any president has made. But there's also a litany of
presidents who didn't rise up to to meet the moment.
You look at the presidence it's just James Buchanan and
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the list of presidents before him in the run up
to the Civil War, they just didn't didn't do what
was necessary to keep the union together. You look at
someone like Herbert Hoover who didn't, who didn't instill confidence
from the American people in terms of how to handle
the Great Depression, whereas FDR stepped in as a man
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of extensive confidence and was able to instill that and
and and transition the country from its lowest point in
nineteen thirty three into trying to resolve the Great Depression.
But I think that there's aspects of the failure or
leaders that just didn't rise to meet.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The moment, and history is filled with those.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But there's This is why these six leaders are so
important and the lessons that they share with us because
they were able to get the right decisions. They made
the right decisions at the right time for their moment.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
William, what about leaders who have failed yet were great leaders?
For example, you brought up the Civil War and the
two generals who faced each other in the Civil War,
Robert E. Lee and Grant. There were very different men,
and a lot of historians had said that Robert E.
Lee was actually a great leader. Yet he was kind
of given an unwinnable war and because of that he failed.
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But it wasn't because of his leadership skills, it was
just because of the resources he was commanding.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Most historians would argue that Robert Lee was a great general.
But in his moment of the Civil War, if you
look at what happened in the Gettysburg, he made a
decision what was called Pickett's charge on the third day
of the Battle of Gettysburg in July third of.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
To disregard whether it was hubris, whatever it was, but
he made a charge across across a wide open field
in Gettysburg, and it was really.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
The turning point in the war.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
It was the high point for the South in the war,
and at that point the South would never go further
north in terms of any times of military progress in
the war. So, I mean there's moments where he certainly
he was a great general in terms of military tactics
and winning battles he probably should never have won.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But at his moment in eighteen sixty.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Three Dettysburg, he whether again whether it was hubris, whatever
it was, made the long call and ultimately probably cost
them the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
William how in this day and age, leadership is still
very important, but it's changed in the way that we
that our presidents exercise it because now there is so
much that goes into leading the country that is informed
not even by the Big four or CNN, you know,
the big TV media, but now it's they're informed by
TikTok and all of these social media challenges. How do
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you lead a country that seems to be changing in
its whims almost every few minutes based on social media.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I think it's interesting, it's an interesting point. But I
think that if you look at presidential history in terms
of media, right you have FDR comes into office in
nineteen thirty three at the low point of the Great Depression,
and he uses a medium a medium at the time,
the radio, at a time when there was the proliferation
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of radio. It was an opportunity presented him, an opportunity
to talk to people from Poughkeepsie to Portland in a
time when that was never possible. Everyone was talking off
the back of a train in terms of campaign stops
and talking to the nation, or you would just use
a newspaper to a change that dynamic, and then of
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John Kennedy in nineteen sixty and his use of television
to the point today where you have Donald Trump was
really an innovator around social media. So I think every generation,
or at least the last few generations, had the ability
to use communication, to use the twenty four new twenty
four hour.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
News cycle, to change, to change or to.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Advocate is the term. And I think what's needed is
a leader in that sense to do that in the
same way that an FDR, in the same way that
Kennedy did in transforming a medium to move the nation.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And I think we've seen examples of that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know, that's the first time I ever heard the
fireside chat compared to TikTok. But you make a great point,
because there are so many changes now that's happening. You
said the twenty four hours. I don't think it's twenty
four hours now. I think it's every like twenty four minutes.
It seems like in the fifteen minutes of fame, that's
too long, because so fast things happen, and then our
we have the member of a goldfish, we forget and
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so things they just disappear and we move on to
the next right shiny object. Where do you see our
country going in the future When it comes to the
way people view the leadership that's coming from the White
House and beyond, I hope they.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Look at a book like this and take a lesson
from someone like Theodore Roosevelt, who took power at forty
two years old. He was the sitting Vice president. William
McKinley was assassinated, and two or three months later he
gave a State of the Union address where he took
on two of the existential issues of his time, which
was the eradication of national resources and the growth and
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expansion of the West. Because of water and irrigation issues,
it was nearly impossible we didn't have a series of
dams and to retain water, and he took those on
at a time when that was not part of America's vernacular,
particularly in political circles. And I think there's an opportunity
we talk about where we're going. I hope that our
next president or at least takes a cue from that
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to think about what is the issue today that is going.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
To impact generations to come.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
The way tr did in terms of setting up national
parks and keeping the natural beauty of the United to say,
what is that thing, what is that policy issue that's
going to be transformational for my children and their children's
children in the same way that TR and I think
that's the lesson today.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
So I don't have a I.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Don't have a crystal ball to say where we're going,
but I would hope maybe they would lean into the
history of TR and take on one of these issues
for the benefit of.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
William Holman, thank you for taking a moment to tell
us about your book, meeting the moment. Thank you so
much for joining us today on Viewpoint Alabama.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Thanks so much, grateful to you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And this is the Alabama Radio Network. My name is
John Mounce and we spend a lot of time so
far talking about the presidency, but this week we also
had a major flip in Congress, both the Senate and
the House. Joining us next is one of the congressmen
who we're going to be sending back for another two years,
Gary Palmer, as he spoke with JT.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Congratulations on your wins, sir, nice job, Thanks you, JT.
I don't think it's a big surprise, but I think
congratulations are in order anyway.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well, I don't take anything for granted, right, So we
did our job trying to serve the people of the district.
And it's a new district for me, and in many
respects with attag and Elmore and cousin part of Talladega Springs.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
And yeah, one of the first.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Things I did when I got elected the first time
was we started hosting a quarter alliance for all the
mayors in the district. And we're going to do that again.
And I look forward to getting down and meeting all
these guys.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well, I lost you in my district. I got moved
in the new uh you know border and uh.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
There are houses for sale in the district.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I may move. I kind of miss not seeing your
name on my ballot. It wasn't there. Well, and uh,
I'm in Terry Seul's district. I did get probably half
a dozen text messages from friends in the in the
area and Hoover that said, Hey, where's Gary's name? I said,
what do you mean he goes not on my ballot.
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I said, you've heard of redistricting, right that this's took place.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I really think we need to do this over JT
the redistricting, because now you've drawn mobil in with Dothan,
and they couldn't be more different. You've drawn Mobil in
with Montgomery and obviously in Phoenix City couldn't be more different.
And I think it's a disservice to the to the
constituents in those districts, because you need districts that are contiguous. Yeah,
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but you also need them that are similar in their
interests and their needs. And what they've done is a
disservice to the constituents and those two districts.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
How are Bluff Park and the Black Belt in the
same district, Well, how many miles of separation? I mean,
we know why this was done. It was to accommodate
the black votes and black population and give better representation.
But I'm not sure that it hasn't backfired.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Well, I want every Black vote that I possibly get
because I think we have more in common than we
than differences. But at the same time, I want to
be able to work in a district where where we
have common interest Economically, infrastructure needs things like that. Yeah,
Mobile needs a bridge across the Bay, Dothan needs a
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connector to Interstate ten. It's going to be difficult to
navigate a lot of those issues.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Well, District two was you know, certainly under the microscope
and in the spotlight, which is down south in Alabama,
and Shamari Figures did defeat Caroline Dobson. I'm not surprised.
I was hoping that, you know, Dobson would would win
this being the Republican, but Shamari Figures was an Obama person,
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big support in that arena. So your thoughts on this
was a newly created district and all of this remapping
of the borders for the different districts here, So were
you surprised with that? What were your expectations in South Alabama?
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Well, I'm not surprised, but I'll say this for Caroline,
I said it last night. She is exactly the kind
of person that you want in Congress. She is an
unbelievable hard worker. She's a high character, a person of
faith and great intelligence. She would have gone in there
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because she wanted the job, not the title, and there's
too many in Congress that want the title but not
really crazy about the job. She would have been different
and she would have represented everybody in that district very ably.
I really hope that this is not her last time
to take a shot at this, because I think she
would be outstanding.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well, we pray for these leaders. That our democrat in
our state, Terry Sewell beat Robin Landaker in this district
six up here, Barry Moore once again Republican, defeated Tom Holmes,
a Democrat there. And you, of course, you know, defeating
Elizabeth Anderson, your challenger in your district. So big news
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for Donald Trump last night. Just a huge, huge win.
Prediction and prediction is you know what it is right
now is Trump is the is the winner. There's no
path for her to come back and do this two
seventy seven. As far as electoral votes go to Kamala
Harris's two twenty four, he also is leading in the
popular vote. And you look at some of the areas
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where it was, you know a bit of a surprise,
you know. I think Miami Dade was an area that
was like, I mean, what's been thirty years since the
showing that the Republicans got out of that area. Ohio
Senator elect Bernie Moreno was in Westlake, Ohio last night
as he won.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
We talked about wanting a red wave.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I think what we have tonight is.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
A red, white, and blue waves.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Congressman Gary Palmer in the studio with us this morning. Gary,
let's talk about first the White House and then the Senate.
Of course, it looks like that is going to be
read that we didn't win, that the House is still
in play. Here, it seems it looks like we may
do this and we flipped. We got us Virginia as
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far as the Senate goes with mansion out, but we
may have flipped four or what are you hearing and
seeing this morning? And where do you think we are
as far as the House.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Well, I don't think we're going to know for a
couple of weeks at least because of the way they
do things in California, and California might determine whether or
not we have the majority. Arizona's going to be in
play as well. David Schwikert and one Siscamani are key
key races for us that they're incumbent Republicans, are both
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very capable people. We need them. California we've got I
think some of our guys are in okay shape, but
but it's California, and so we got await a couple
of weeks to find out actually who's going to win
those races. I think there are a couple still in play,
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maybe in Oregon. Loris Chavez Dreima has been really good
out in Ohio. Derrick Marron in Cochland, those are both.
I don't think Cockland's going to make it, but Maren's.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Got a shot.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
So we just got to see. We've got to get
everything counted and get it in and hopefully there may
be another opportunity in Pennsylvania. I think we're going to
pick up two seats in Pennsylvania, particularly one Matt Cartwright,
a Democrat. There has been a very tough guy beating
and I think we've beaten him. As a matter of fact,
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I just see on your board, Resident Hand's up fifty
nine so with ninety nine percent, so I think Residenthan's
going to win that.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Well, that's big in Pennsylvania, that's for sure. Were you
surprised with Pennsylvania last night? Speaking of Pennsylvania in the
big picture, No.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I talked with one of Trump's guys the night before,
and what surprised me was he told me you kind
of get an indication of trends. And he said in
Nevada that the two pro times that Trump had won,
they'd never led in the early voting, Trump was up
forty three thousand votes than the day before in Nevada
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and early voting, so that kind of gave you an
idea of where things were going.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Just an incredible when you peel back the onions and
look at some of these numbers that were starting to
pop everywhere, it was like, Wow, the seventy percent of
wrong direction in this country that Americans felt about was
coming to fruition with their votes. I mean, forget about
you know, identity politics like Democrats want to vote for,
you know, skin color, gender, you know, they were talking
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about the economy and their own homes and their finances
and America's situation in our border and where we are globally.
This country is kind of been a hot mess. And look,
I think Trump resonated more more authenticity than Kamala Harris
brought jd Vance same thing up, you know with Tim
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Wallas comparison, that it just resonated better with real Americans
and the fluff and all the political bumper sticker comments
from Kamala Harris didn't land well. I mean she wasn't
a real person to a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
What drove this election is the economy. People can't afford
the cost of living, can afford their groceries and everything
else that they got to pay for. There's some things
that we have got to do JT. On the energy front,
on the critical minerals front, creating a soft power alternative
to China. You're not going to be hearing from this
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White House that the climate is the existential threat no
to the country. No, they understand that China's the threat.
But they also understand what we've got to do to
restore respect in terms of foreign policy with our enemies
and confidence in our allies.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
There you go key part there too. I think our
allies were like, Eh, we can't count on the Big
USA anymore. Right now? This is awful and we see
the results around the globe. Gary's we get ready to wrap.
I know you've got a busy day ahead of you.
Here your thoughts on what President Trump and you know,
our Vice President JD. Vance need to do for this
country moving forward.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Here, we've got to deliver on things that we said
we would deliver on, and I think what he's going
to do he will immediately start issuing executive orders rolling
back some of the more onerous regulations that the Bide
administrations imposed what a lot of people don't realize. In
his first term, Trump cut regulations by over two hundred billion,
and that saved the average household about ten thy eight
(26:29):
hundred dollars. Biden imposed two trillion in regulatory costs that
added about four to seven thousand dollars and hidden costs
to the average household. So that's that's item one. He's
also going to immediately implement plans to get that wall
built scare of border. We're going to make the tax
cuts permanent, which is going to put more capital on market,
(26:50):
more jobs, better pay. And we're going to take on
inflation by opening up our inenerury resources and starting immediately to.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Bring down the All right, one last I know you
got to go. I know you got to go. I
love you, thank you for staying. But Congress and Gary
Palmer one more time, one question social Security. I'm so
sick and tired of hearing Democrats say uh yeah, yeah,
good luck. You're gonna have to work till you know,
turn one hundred and five. Social Security is going away
the Republicans. They're going to ruin it for us.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
What anytime you hear that from someone you're listening to
a liar. I mean it's like Democrats think we don't
have parents. You know that our parents don't need so
security or relatives. I mean, my family depends a lot
of my family depends on Social Security. I mean, this
(27:42):
is insane to think that Republicans are going to get
rid of Social Security. They think we don't have parents
or other family members. I mean, it doesn't take a
whole lot to realize that they're lying to you. So
there are things that we need to do to make
sure that we have so security that that we can
maintain it, and we're going to do that. But this
(28:04):
this whole there were so many lies told them this
this election, and I'm so proud of the American people
that they saw through most of it. But anytime someone
walks up to you and says that the Republicans are
going to get rid of SOID security, just ask them, well,
what about their family? You think they're going to take
it away from their family?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah? I don't see it either. I haven't seen anybody
explain to me how that's going to happen. I don't
know where this is coming from.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, i'll tell you what what the Democrats are going
to do if they had won this election, they were
going to get rid of women's sports by allowing transgender
men to play in it. That's some of the radical
stuff that they were pushing on this country. We were
going from a republic to a socialist regime running the country.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
So well, I got to tell you, I'm glad that you.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Fired up Jetty.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Oh, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Stupid stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You know, this is to me the garage door has
been slam shut and the padlock has been put on
it with a social wave of that you know, idiocracy
that you're talking about right there, that is in the
rear view mirror.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
By what I want every Democrat listening time stand is
Donald J. Trump has a mandate. He won the electoral college,
He's going to win the popular vote. We've picked up
the Senate. God willing will hold the House, and that
is a mandate.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Amen, and pray that he moves in the right direction
and God's will be done in all of this. All right,
very good, Thank you here, Appreciate you sticking around. Social
Security's not going anywhere, folks, don't worry about that. And
Trump is not coming after your gay marriage forget. He
doesn't care. He's got bigger fish to fry. Live your life,
don't worry. Take a deep breath, all right, hireson Gary Palmer,
(29:35):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
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from the Alabama Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
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