June 8, 2024 • 32 mins
This week, there was a humiliating loss to Afghanistan for the Black Caps.
Expert Garth Gallaway joins the podcast to assess and analyse the failings and confirm where improvement is needed - quickly.
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Hello on the Front Foot? Will you again keeping an
eye on the World Tea? Twenty one week into it,
black Caps stumble at the first turtle? Was it punishment
for a lack of match preparation? The Americans produced the
surprise of the tournament so far, Doubting Pakistan but god
he's there, but just take a prices come under the
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microscope and the Whitebirds, well they've made a significant choice
for their England tour. Former Black Cap bat batting coach
Craig McMillan is going to be with them. Interesting change.
Garth Galliley and Jeremy Cody with me. That was difficult
watching a Black Cap side performing as poorly as they did.
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They were lack class. Dame Garth, you know we talked
about it leading up to this. You've got to have
some preparations, you've got to be ready to go from
ball one. They were very ordinary playing that opening game
against deff Gellison and they under restraate Afghanistan.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That was my impresson Brian and the last time we
were together doing the podcast, we just talked about the
need for good preparation and that New Zealand seemed to
be taking a significant risk by going into this tournament
without other build up and I'm afraid they got They
got caught out by it very badly yesterday by a
very good, f gunny side. I mean the Afghanistan side.
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They just looked completely switched on and I thought the
New Zealand side looked bewildered. And as you say, I
mean the question is did we underestimate Afghanistan. I suppose
New Zealand will come out and say we were outplayed
and we didn't, but my impression was that we did
and we were quite wrong to. We only need to
(02:24):
look back at the you know, the Cricket World Cup
in India last year where Afghanistan scored two hundred and
ninety one for five against against Australia and Ibraham of
course scored one hundred and twenty nine not out in
that match and they had Australia ninety one for seven
before Maxwell came in and scored a double century. So
you know that should have been enough to tell them
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that they are a very good side. And you know,
we talk a lot about this Afghanistan spin attack, but
I thought they're swing and seam bowlers yesterday were outstanding.
New Zealand completely outplayed and I thought they were embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, and Jerry, you know, we love to watch the
New Zealand side performing well and we've enjoyed them over
a long period of time, but that was hard to
watch the whole style of play.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, well, well done Afghanistan. I'm with Garth in that matter.
A competitive total not out of the realm, was it
one hundred and fifty nine, but with the help from
the opposition errors really to get to that sort of total.
And then they use their bowling weapons and they're not
as garthsa is just one dimensional with spinners only. I mean,
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Farouki and Navin Alhak are very good medium fast bowlers,
swing bowlers, good slower balls, have all the Armory play
lots of T twenty format cricket. They don't play many
Tests Afghanistan. I think they might have had three, so
they really concentrate their efforts in the T twenty format
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and play in the stronger franchised ones too, ipl you know,
Big Bash, those sorts of franchise games. So they are
very competitive bowling unit and that proved to be the
same yesterday. They didn't even have one of their main bowlers,
Muji Rahman, did they who normally opens the bowling for them.
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So yeah, well done to them. And the thing, you know,
I guess the magnitude of the loss for New Zealand
will will shake them a bit. It'll shake every player
and it should shake every coach as well. So we're
you know, I'm sure you know we can either go
through dissecting all the batting failures and things like that
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and decision making about them. But the general what you've
talked about, I would just a lack of international intensity.
I would call it kind of a general malaise. I
don't mean overhype. They're not over hyped. They just they
just need more focus on each ball to do your job.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
The fielding was the area That really annoyed me because
we have prided ourselves. As Cain Williamson said in the
postmatch acknowledging we were outplayed, but he was frustrated at
the fielding. Well, you know, Cain Williamson can't do a
lot about that, But as a team, you can do
a lot about it, can't you. You've got to really
do the hard yards out in the field, drop catches,
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you know, poor throws in from the outset. You talked
about it, Jerry when we had Conway as the keeper.
He trying to gather some pretty awkward throws coming and
I know they like to bounce it in down, rough
up the ball and all that sort of stuff. That's
all part of the technics of the game. But that
fielding to me was below what I expect from a
New Zealand side and what we've seen in the past
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from them.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was and it was in a key area. I think,
Brian we talked about how and I think we all
agreed before the tournament that Conway should not be the
keeper for New Zealand. And for me there were two
reasons for that. One I don't think he's good enough
and two I think it exposes him to injury, and
he's been such an important part of the betting lineup,
and of course he broke his some against Australia, so
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we've seen the vulnerability that can happen with him with
the gloves. Now he missed Gerbaz on twelve. It was
a difficult chance as Goebaz came down the pitch to
Sant and drove it a ball. He got an inside edge,
but there was an opportunity for a cat's or a stumping.
He was out of his ground. He then we then
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saw Abraham being dropped on thirteen by Allan inexplicably on
the squarely boundary, just an absolute lolly that went straight
into him and hit him in the chest, barely got
a hand in it. And then of course we had
Gourbez again, the key batsman who scored eighty and batted
very well, being missed in a run out by Conway,
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and that was of course the one where he played
Satin at a short thirred man. Henry picked up the
ball and it was just to the left of Conway.
I thought Conway was in a bad position. He was
standing to the side of the stumps. He took the
ball and dropped it and there was a runout that
should have been effected. So at that stage they were
thirty nine without loss, you know, so chances of twenty nine,
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thirty three and thirty nine altmist and then on t
firfty two of course fifty two without loss. We saw
Abraham being dropped for the second time by Williamson at
mid off. It was inexplicably bad. But that decision, which
again what he said was wrong before the tournament started,
that decision to play Conway as keeper has cost them dearly.
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The cost in this match, I think.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Garth rang me.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Actually I've been up in Orphan looking at my grandchildren
watching their sport.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Was yesterday Garth rang me.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
While I was watching hockey, Little Clem was playing, and
he was actually pushing his own place as keeper in
the New Zealand side, because he felt that he could
do just as well as Conway and was making himself
available at the last.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Minute to take hold.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Perhaps Clementine Omer darling Clementine and she about sort of
nine nine or ten.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It might be right.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
But I agree about the fielding. They didn't look much ready.
I wonder whether they have actually had catches and practiced
catching under lights at that venue. I would say not,
they'd have to organize it. But you know, I just
felt finale and he was beaten and surprised by the
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pace of the ball. He just didn't triangulate on the
ball that was through his hands and as you say,
into his chest. And we've seen fielding and accuracy's wads
for some time with the side. They are slowly lowering
their standards. You think of Australia the last day, first
just in just in the sort of the ring area
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that you know, Ravindra put a catch down and then
marsh went on to make about sixty or seventy. We
saw catchers drop that slip you know by Mitchell. You
know we are dropping catchers regularly now. And I don't
know who the fielding coaches is there one, but there
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are certainly.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well you know that you've got the gloves, Yeah, is
it okay?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well you know.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You got the you got the gloves on. You can
take a ball at shoulder height. You might say to
yourselvit was a bit high, but you got the gloves on.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You're an international keeper.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
You take that and you break the stumps and you
affect a pretty regular chance for a running don't you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
The the issue of team work together and playing as
a team. And it's all very well to practice in
the nets. There's no pressure in the nets, is there.
You just put the stump back in and and you
play another shot. But the pressure and the situation of
a team game and playing teams you work together, and
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I just didn't see that you within the fielding effort.
It was eleven players running around in the outfield, all
those sorts of things. Why you have warm up games?
I made of mind. We're talking about it, and he
basically said, with the All Blacks go to an international
tournament without having a prep game, With the Sevens go
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to the Olympic Games without having a preparation game or two.
I mean, those sorts of things are paramount, don't they.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was a very very messy build up, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
You know when you think those sending players back from
the IPL to be with their families for a few moments,
and then people arriving at different times from all sorts
of places, no warm up games, practices interrupted by rain.
Did they replace those practices with something with some intensity?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's what you've got to have.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
You've got to get that level of intensity about your
practice and so yeah, I mean Australia did, and they
us coaches a coaching staff to make up the numbers.
They were going to have a hell bent to have
some match played before this tournament.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah. The point is, and we understand that families are
important and that players have to have spend time with
their families, but they are professional cricketers and this is
an international tournament. Surely they can make their plans slightly
differently when it comes to family time. And I'm not
knocking the fact that they're spending time with their families,
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because people will get up in arms about that sort
of issue. But they've known when this tournament was New
Zealand cricketers none and these players have been at the
IPL hardly playing any crickets. And I'm glad they're getting
the money for it, but you know, this is New
Zealand represented at an international tournament and I just don't
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think that's good enough.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Well, you think about how I think you look. Ben
Ond's about how it manifested itself. So so you know
what difference did it make? Well, it made a lot
of difference. And those are the things that we're talking
about those simple mistakes. You saw Afghanistan who were absolutely
drilled into New Zealand from the start. You know, I
thought that their batting was measured at the top of
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the order, that they didn't smash the ball around because
they weren't able to in those conditions. One of the
things that we're seeing in the tournament, I think, and
it's happening in both the USA and in the West Indies,
is that the ball is swinging around quite a lot,
and it's also carrying on off the pits. There's quite
a lot of scene movement and that means, you know,
for me that the batsmen had to change their approach.
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So you're not seeing in the IPL you're seeing sometimes
sixty seventy eighty ninety runs scored in the power play.
We're not seeing anything like that in this tournament at
the moment. And the sides who are adjusting are the
ones who are doing well in New Zealand to me.
You know, we saw Ellen come out and as they
said on Krikinfoe, he tried to hit the ball into
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the ocean first ball. I mean, it was a creatibly
full of shot in those conditions. Again, if we look
at how things manifest themselves. I thought that bowl pretty
well two for twenty two. He was on the money
and he's a player who's been playing a lot in
the IPL. Henry, I thought, just bowl too short when
he was getting a movement, you know, you want to see.
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I think the bowlers who are in rhythm and who've
had a good build up when the ball is moving
around as it is, they pitched the ball up a
lot more. Otherwise, I think Henry gave the batsman too much,
too much work really and too much length, too short.
Satner and I thought bold well brace well three overs
nine to twenty seven got smacked, but Ferguson was okay.
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But again, if we the fielding mistakes show that they
weren't in the zone and that build up has not
been satisfactory. Jerry, you talked about how much training they
did under light. It's my understanding is that they had
one session and I heard Became Williamson talking about you
know that they have to they get allocated time, so
they get what they get and again you would know
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all of that going into the tournament, so you know
what preparation you have to do before you get there.
I thought one of the other things. That was absolutely
extraordinary in this New Zealand performance. And I was yelling
at the at the TV when it happened, was that
Williams and brought Mitchell on to bowl the nineteenth over.
That that was just bizarre and sixteen runs came off it. Again.
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You know, Mitchell's done very limited bowling and international T
twenty stuff, strange things.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Yeah, that was the That was the decision to complete
Bracewell's compliment, wasn't it. When he went for that he
went he was hit for three sixers I think in
his third over, and he was a bit reluctant to
use him again, but he left it so late and
as you say, the nineteenth over to bring just one
over from Mitchell, that was a you know, it was
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a bit desperate, wasn't it. The whole thing had a
look of it like that. So yeah, things just did
not go well. And even in the best batting too,
just felt mistakes were made right from the start. I
can't understand, you know, someone like Vanellen. You know, I
didn't think that the ball was swinging aggressively. I didn't
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think it was swinging wildly. It was just shaping gently back.
It was his first ball, and he was he bowleded
very full and really it was a regulation left dam
And you've got Bolt there, surely you know.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
As an opener.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
The opposition have got Feruki that you know that he's
going to swing it, probably a little bit as much
as Bolt, but you've got Bolt there to bowl at
you with a new ball. Come on, pitch it full
to me, keep it up to me, swing it at me,
give me some practice. This is part of your surely
part of your preparation. And you shouldn't be caught by
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surprise trying to hit it into the ocean. You shouldn't
be caught trying to go too wide with it. It
just goes down past mid d if anything, or straight
back at the bowl, so you use the full width
of your bat. That's pretty basic, isn't it. We want
someone like fin Allen to bat between twenty four and
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thirty balls. That's all we want from your Finn, not
one ball. That's very important start to our game.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Well, Luke Ronky said in something that I saw on
Instagram before the game, we have to understand our plans
and their wicket taking balls and the skills they have,
and we have to back our own style and making
sure we go out with the full belief and how
we want to play as a New Zealand cricket team. Well,
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you can try and decipher that, but the point is
if we have to understand our plans and their wicket
taking balls. I thought Allan showed an absolute failure to
understand that. And like you, Jerry, I agree it wasn't
moving around viciously. But for some of these players, they're
so used to playing where the ball doesn't move in
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it's so flat and they've got to make adjustments when
the ball moves around. And that's a test of how
these guys will go. Now they've got the West Indies
on Wednesday and they're potentially out of the tournament unless
they can change things. One of the things I would do,
I would drop Allen. I'd get revengerin he should have
played Yester. That wouldn't It wouldn't have made the difference
between the two teams. But I just think about dropping
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Allen and saying it's just not good enough. And this
is the message when you need to send You dropped
a simple catch, you played a terrible shot and you
contributed nothing, and you've gone will they do that, probably not.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He's been injured and as recovering from injury, so you
know that's another person who hasn't been playing a lot
of cricket, as was the case with a lot of
these people. The point you make is, yeah, it is
the West Indies and tournament over. If you don't, wouldn't
that game? But how do you get it right? Apparently
the team meeting after the game was one of hard talking.
(18:10):
That was the words of Luke Ronky. We had long,
hard discussions. But how do you change it in a
short space of time.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Very hard to when you come in with nothing behind you.
That's the problem. And I think you know the West
Indies will be licking their lips about playing the side.
I mean, I think one of the things well, I
think one of the things you got to think about
it is do you send a signal that we expect
more from our plans so you say to Allen you
can stand down for this match. That's something I would
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certainly think about mentally. How do you do it? I
think it's very hard. When you watched the comboy at
the top of the innings and Williamson and Mitchell all
scratching around seemingly unable when the ball was moving around,
just to get bat on ball and to push it.
But I in the gaps and look for ones and
twos and so on. I think they've got to go
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back to a really basic and simple structure. I think
if the ball's moving around, you've got to encourage the
balls to pitch the ball up. Obviously, they have to
do a lot of work on their fielding, and the batsmen,
you know, had to stop going. I think for these,
you know, the all or nothing shots, I think they've
got to look to get you know, thirty forty fifty
in the powerplay, not lose too many like it's at
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the top, and see if they can build on that.
You know, you know, one of the things is I
say that we're seeing is the balls moving around. So
they've got to change the plans.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Look, when you get into situations where either the pitcher
is doing a little bit and it's difficult to play
the big shots, you have to rain your game in
a little bit. You just cannot keep playing wildly irrespective
of what's happening in front of you. Now, that can
be up to the bowler if he's doing it well.
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Before a pictures. So it's drifting or it's dropping or
whatever it is, or when it hits the surface and
does something you were just and so you start to
show your craft as a batsman. Now we have got
those sorts of players, Ah Williamson, Now we have to
we have to be smart. We've generally been quite a
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smart side in tournaments. We haven't scored towering number of runs,
but we've got to a total that is competitive and
fought away and scrapped away and held our catchers. That's
the way that New Zealand has has got through to
the second phase of all these t twenty tournaments so
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far that they've played. We're going to probably miss this one,
I'm thinking. I mean, I would be thinking. Uganda would
say to themselves we can beat New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
That's the way that they played yesterday, New Zealand. So
look at the thinking yesterday too. Williamson steering a ball
to slip when presumably he wanted to go to the
right of slip, but there was a short third manner
as well.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
What is the point?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Where's the value of that shot? It shows no power
coming from the captain. It was a weird stroke. And
I think Ian Smith said there's a shot of a
man who hasn't played any cricket recently, and that's absolutely
right Chapman. You know, when you're facing rushed car and
you get one dragged down just a little, he plays
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a big sort of pull and its bold. You've got
to be playing that and say to yourself, what's the
risk of rushing khn He is a flat quick and
he's going to skid on at me. He doesn't turn
the ball wildly, but he's going to skid on at me.
I'm not going to play those until I'm not he
only got four. If he was forty four, yes you
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might play the poll shot, but until you get a
start because you're a main batsman at number six, especially
when you're four down for twenty or whatever they were
four for forty, you know you tuck it away for
a single. I mean that's brain that's brain power. We've
lost that we've lost that ability to assess situations in
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a game and how you're playing. Isn't that what cricket's about,
not just going out and slogging and bashing against a
good team. You cannot bash your way to one hundred
and eighty and that's all score. One hundred and eighty
is a good total we're seeing actually in this tournament
so far.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
How dored age gives you a chance?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, the England Australia game. Australia two hundred, didn't they
They had two hundred and they had four players in
the thirties, No one was They scored it a good
strike rate, but they didn't have the real thrashbash six
hitters and as many sixes as you could hit. But
they had thirty nine to thirty. They were the top
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four run scorers. I'm interested in the pitches and what
assessment we can make from afar of these pitches. They
are variable, aren't they. You watch the IPL Garth and
the quality of play to me seems totally different from
what you've talked about in terms of the IPL to
this World T twenty.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
There is a difference, isn't there enormous? And I think
you know it's a much more even contest between bat
and ball in this T twenty World Cup. You know,
we talked off air Brian about the scores in the
IPL this season. You know, there were scores in excessive
two hundred and fifty runs I mean, it's just an
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absolute smug fest the batsman. You know, they know that
they can just clear their happ and they know exactly
where the ball is going to be in terms of
bounce and movement and so on.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I mean Bolt was successful in the IPL in the
power playoff and with just a little bit of movement
but in the air, but the movement goes very quickly.
There's a limited amount of spin because I think you know,
we're also seeing that the ball is turning quite a lot.
It's gripping on some of these pitchers, so you saw,
and it's gripping also off the medium paces and the
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quick bowl is a little bit and sitting up. So
I've seen batsman having to play different games, and that's
where I think players like Conway and Williamson look completely
out of sorts yesterday, you know, pushing hard at the
ball and getting across the crease a lot. Williamson was
lucky not to be out there bw early in his
innings and only made nine. It is you know, I
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think Jerry and I are saying exactly the same thing
in a different way that you've you have to be
able to say, look that the scores unless you're playing
at Bridgeton, which looks like a good pitch in Australia,
as he says, scored two hundred. But you have to
be thinking about if you're playing on these pitches and
they all know at night time it's going to move
around and going to be a bit different. And New
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Zealand talked about that going into this game, but we
didn't really see any adjustment as a result of it.
And the adjustment it's not just the batsman. The bowlers
have got to pitch the ball up and make the
most of that movement because there has been a lot
of scene movement at times as well. And as I say,
I thought that Henry just bowled too short. So so
again we just we haven't seen the brains trust converting
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into execution on the field.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
It was very well, very disappointing, but very different conditions
to the IPL and as Jerry says, players have got
to learn to adapt and they've got very little time
to do that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The other thing I wanted to talk about was the
ticket prices. People are refusing to pay two five hundred
dollars to play to watch India play Pakistan in New York.
What is wrong with those people? I mean, goodness me,
those tickets are giveaway, aren't they? Two five hundred dollars?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Well, for guard they might be.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
He sends Lisa out to Lisa out to work every
day least she heads off my word so he can
so he can go and buy his ticket to watch
Pakistan versus India. But that's right, Wads, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's the same in Providence.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
You and I watched that first game, didn't We were
Westerndies were laying and it wasn't very full at all,
so the home side was playing there. It's on the
outskirts that Providence is on the outskirts of Georgetown.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's about sort of ten k's away.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I'm not sure how easy it is to get access
there with buses and so on, but certainly the ticket
price is nine five hundred Guyanese dollars. That's about forty
five US say seventy three seventy five New Zealand dollars
to go.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So that's expensive.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
And maybe there was a bit of wait and see
how the Westerndies go as well.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Maybe that'll pick up if they beat New Zealand. I'm
not sure, but certainly the money is an issue.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
The White Fans have made some significant changes to their
team and the leadership of the group as they head
off to England for t twenty and one Day International Series.
Former Black Cap batting coach Craig McMillan giving up the
TV mike for another stan At coaching five years after
he gave up the job as the black Caps batting coach.
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He's going to be batting coach for the White Fans
and also included in the side as Lauren Down five
months after she gave birth to her first child, so
she's back in the New Zealand side and well. From
Craig mcwillan's point of view, he's delighted to be back
coaching again for a new challenge.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Just thrilled to be part of the setup, really excited
with the schedule that the White Fans have got over
the next five or six months. So I can't wait
to get involved and be part of the setup. And
what I love about the White Fans set up is
they're also competitive, but they do everything with a smile
on their face and their laugh. So it's a great environment.
So that's something that as a player and as a
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coach you do miss at times. And as you mentioned,
I've had five and a bit years away. I loved
the commentary because you're still part of the game, you
see it up close, you see all the action. You
still have those relationships, but coaching something a bit special
because you get to forge some special relationships with the
players and with the management as well. So as I said,
it's going to be a busy time for the White Fans,
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but an exciting one. There's a number that I do
know quite well. There's a few others that I don't,
so I'm getting to know them during these camps that
we've had and the two to the UK, I'll get
close to them and build that relationship up. But what
hasn't surprised me is the talent that's within this White
Fans side. There's a good mixture of experience. We've got
some vastly experienced players and we've got some youngsters who
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are finding their feet at the international level. And that's
always exciting when you've got that balance of the two
in a setup. So can't wait to get my hands
dirty start throwing some balls and being part of the group.
There's a lot of potential and there's a good mix,
as I said, between experience players who've played a lot
of international cricket and some others that are just finding
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their feet at the end international level. I look at him,
is he gay? So we saw against England last season
showed how good a player she's going to be and
she's just finding the feet at the international level. And
sometimes it's really hard when you haven't played a lot
of domestic cricket and you get thrown into the international scene.
Sometimes it just takes a little while to find your
feet and that was great to see as you do
that last season. So we've got some youngsters who I
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think are going to be superstars and years to come.
So I guess the onuses on us coaches is to
upskill then get them performing at that international level as
quickly as we can and get some consistency. And if
we do that, then the White Fans are going to
have a successful summer.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they develop on
that tour of England because it's important in terms of
the way the White Fans have been going. Bearing in
mind the home series that they just played against this
England type. For Lauren Down, she's delighted to be back
where she always thought she would be after she gave
birth to her first child.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yeah, it was always in the back of my mind.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I knew that one I wanted to be a moment
and have family, but too that I still wanted to
give cricket a good crack and I was hoping that
if everything went well with giving birth and through the pregnancy,
that I would be able to return.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
And fortunately the comeback has gone pretty well so far.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
It's been tough at times and physically a bit training,
but it's been really good and it's nice being a
mom and still being able to play cricket as well. Yeah,
it's been challenging at times. I'm very grateful for sort
of my support network at home.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
No, my partner.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
I'm very fortunate with him that he can stay at
home and help look after Ruby while I'm training, and
it makes this whole.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Journey a whole lot easier.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
It's certainly been yet there's been some sleepless nights and
then getting up and trying to do a little bit
of training, which is a little bit harder than normal,
but when you come home at the end of the
day and see a little smiling.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Face, it all feels worth it.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Yeah, it's been yeah, tough, as I say, physically as well.
Obviously your body goes through a whole lot of change
through the pregnancy and then slowly trying to work back
into things and get back to sort of the fitness
I was at beforehand. It's been a bit tough being
at the bottom of the pack and the running sessions
with the White Firm, but I know I'll get back
there and it's been nice just to be back with
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the group band training again. I think time away from
the game was actually quite nice. It was refreshing, and
then it just sort of made me kind of hungry
to get back and just want to get back into
the folders as soon as I could. And I knew
it was going to be tight in terms of time
frames getting back for this England series, but I just
wanted to give myself the best chance that I could
to put my hand up.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Unfortunately, I'm yea able to get on the plane next week.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Lauren down back as a White fan for the England tour.
That's it for the sedition of On the front Foot
more matches in the World T twenty, including New Zealand's
next match against the West Indies in Trinidad. So hopefully
the ticket prices can be sorted out for the match
between New Zealand and the West Indies and Trinidad. I'm
sure the locals would want to go along there and see.
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If New Zealand don't win that game, then it's Uganda
Papu New Guinea and then the departure lounge home to
New Zealand because there'll be no more play. Thanks very
much guys for analyzing the first game for New Zealand.
We'll do it after the West Indies game. Garth for you, Jeremy,
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You two chez wats.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
No problem at all.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Shame we've got that first start, but let's hope we're better.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Thanks once, Thanks guys, you and so let's be everything
for bright us up on Wednesday.
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hello on the Front Foot? Will you again keeping an
eye on the World Tea? Twenty one week into it,
black Caps stumble at the first turtle? Was it punishment
for a lack of match preparation? The Americans produced the
surprise of the tournament so far, Doubting Pakistan but god
he's there, but just take a prices come under the
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microscope and the Whitebirds, well they've made a significant choice
for their England tour. Former Black Cap bat batting coach
Craig McMillan is going to be with them. Interesting change.
Garth Galliley and Jeremy Cody with me. That was difficult
watching a Black Cap side performing as poorly as they did.
(01:29):
They were lack class. Dame Garth, you know we talked
about it leading up to this. You've got to have
some preparations, you've got to be ready to go from
ball one. They were very ordinary playing that opening game
against deff Gellison and they under restraate Afghanistan.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
That was my impresson Brian and the last time we
were together doing the podcast, we just talked about the
need for good preparation and that New Zealand seemed to
be taking a significant risk by going into this tournament
without other build up and I'm afraid they got They
got caught out by it very badly yesterday by a
very good, f gunny side. I mean the Afghanistan side.
(02:03):
They just looked completely switched on and I thought the
New Zealand side looked bewildered. And as you say, I
mean the question is did we underestimate Afghanistan. I suppose
New Zealand will come out and say we were outplayed
and we didn't, but my impression was that we did
and we were quite wrong to. We only need to
(02:24):
look back at the you know, the Cricket World Cup
in India last year where Afghanistan scored two hundred and
ninety one for five against against Australia and Ibraham of
course scored one hundred and twenty nine not out in
that match and they had Australia ninety one for seven
before Maxwell came in and scored a double century. So
you know that should have been enough to tell them
(02:44):
that they are a very good side. And you know,
we talk a lot about this Afghanistan spin attack, but
I thought they're swing and seam bowlers yesterday were outstanding.
New Zealand completely outplayed and I thought they were embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, and Jerry, you know, we love to watch the
New Zealand side performing well and we've enjoyed them over
a long period of time, but that was hard to
watch the whole style of play.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, well, well done Afghanistan. I'm with Garth in that matter.
A competitive total not out of the realm, was it
one hundred and fifty nine, but with the help from
the opposition errors really to get to that sort of total.
And then they use their bowling weapons and they're not
as garthsa is just one dimensional with spinners only. I mean,
(03:32):
Farouki and Navin Alhak are very good medium fast bowlers,
swing bowlers, good slower balls, have all the Armory play
lots of T twenty format cricket. They don't play many
Tests Afghanistan. I think they might have had three, so
they really concentrate their efforts in the T twenty format
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and play in the stronger franchised ones too, ipl you know,
Big Bash, those sorts of franchise games. So they are
very competitive bowling unit and that proved to be the
same yesterday. They didn't even have one of their main bowlers,
Muji Rahman, did they who normally opens the bowling for them.
(04:17):
So yeah, well done to them. And the thing, you know,
I guess the magnitude of the loss for New Zealand
will will shake them a bit. It'll shake every player
and it should shake every coach as well. So we're
you know, I'm sure you know we can either go
through dissecting all the batting failures and things like that
(04:40):
and decision making about them. But the general what you've
talked about, I would just a lack of international intensity.
I would call it kind of a general malaise. I
don't mean overhype. They're not over hyped. They just they
just need more focus on each ball to do your job.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
The fielding was the area That really annoyed me because
we have prided ourselves. As Cain Williamson said in the
postmatch acknowledging we were outplayed, but he was frustrated at
the fielding. Well, you know, Cain Williamson can't do a
lot about that, But as a team, you can do
a lot about it, can't you. You've got to really
do the hard yards out in the field, drop catches,
(05:22):
you know, poor throws in from the outset. You talked
about it, Jerry when we had Conway as the keeper.
He trying to gather some pretty awkward throws coming and
I know they like to bounce it in down, rough
up the ball and all that sort of stuff. That's
all part of the technics of the game. But that
fielding to me was below what I expect from a
New Zealand side and what we've seen in the past
(05:45):
from them.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was and it was in a key area. I think,
Brian we talked about how and I think we all
agreed before the tournament that Conway should not be the
keeper for New Zealand. And for me there were two
reasons for that. One I don't think he's good enough
and two I think it exposes him to injury, and
he's been such an important part of the betting lineup,
and of course he broke his some against Australia, so
(06:09):
we've seen the vulnerability that can happen with him with
the gloves. Now he missed Gerbaz on twelve. It was
a difficult chance as Goebaz came down the pitch to
Sant and drove it a ball. He got an inside edge,
but there was an opportunity for a cat's or a stumping.
He was out of his ground. He then we then
(06:30):
saw Abraham being dropped on thirteen by Allan inexplicably on
the squarely boundary, just an absolute lolly that went straight
into him and hit him in the chest, barely got
a hand in it. And then of course we had
Gourbez again, the key batsman who scored eighty and batted
very well, being missed in a run out by Conway,
(06:50):
and that was of course the one where he played
Satin at a short thirred man. Henry picked up the
ball and it was just to the left of Conway.
I thought Conway was in a bad position. He was
standing to the side of the stumps. He took the
ball and dropped it and there was a runout that
should have been effected. So at that stage they were
thirty nine without loss, you know, so chances of twenty nine,
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thirty three and thirty nine altmist and then on t
firfty two of course fifty two without loss. We saw
Abraham being dropped for the second time by Williamson at
mid off. It was inexplicably bad. But that decision, which
again what he said was wrong before the tournament started,
that decision to play Conway as keeper has cost them dearly.
(07:34):
The cost in this match, I think.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Garth rang me.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Actually I've been up in Orphan looking at my grandchildren
watching their sport.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Was yesterday Garth rang me.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
While I was watching hockey, Little Clem was playing, and
he was actually pushing his own place as keeper in
the New Zealand side, because he felt that he could
do just as well as Conway and was making himself
available at the last.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Minute to take hold.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Perhaps Clementine Omer darling Clementine and she about sort of
nine nine or ten.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It might be right.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
But I agree about the fielding. They didn't look much ready.
I wonder whether they have actually had catches and practiced
catching under lights at that venue. I would say not,
they'd have to organize it. But you know, I just
felt finale and he was beaten and surprised by the
(08:37):
pace of the ball. He just didn't triangulate on the
ball that was through his hands and as you say,
into his chest. And we've seen fielding and accuracy's wads
for some time with the side. They are slowly lowering
their standards. You think of Australia the last day, first
just in just in the sort of the ring area
(08:58):
that you know, Ravindra put a catch down and then
marsh went on to make about sixty or seventy. We
saw catchers drop that slip you know by Mitchell. You
know we are dropping catchers regularly now. And I don't
know who the fielding coaches is there one, but there
(09:18):
are certainly.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well you know that you've got the gloves, Yeah, is
it okay?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well you know.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You got the you got the gloves on. You can
take a ball at shoulder height. You might say to
yourselvit was a bit high, but you got the gloves on.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You're an international keeper.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
You take that and you break the stumps and you
affect a pretty regular chance for a running don't you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
The the issue of team work together and playing as
a team. And it's all very well to practice in
the nets. There's no pressure in the nets, is there.
You just put the stump back in and and you
play another shot. But the pressure and the situation of
a team game and playing teams you work together, and
(10:06):
I just didn't see that you within the fielding effort.
It was eleven players running around in the outfield, all
those sorts of things. Why you have warm up games?
I made of mind. We're talking about it, and he
basically said, with the All Blacks go to an international
tournament without having a prep game, With the Sevens go
(10:29):
to the Olympic Games without having a preparation game or two.
I mean, those sorts of things are paramount, don't they.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was a very very messy build up, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
You know when you think those sending players back from
the IPL to be with their families for a few moments,
and then people arriving at different times from all sorts
of places, no warm up games, practices interrupted by rain.
Did they replace those practices with something with some intensity?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's what you've got to have.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
You've got to get that level of intensity about your
practice and so yeah, I mean Australia did, and they
us coaches a coaching staff to make up the numbers.
They were going to have a hell bent to have
some match played before this tournament.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah. The point is, and we understand that families are
important and that players have to have spend time with
their families, but they are professional cricketers and this is
an international tournament. Surely they can make their plans slightly
differently when it comes to family time. And I'm not
knocking the fact that they're spending time with their families,
(11:39):
because people will get up in arms about that sort
of issue. But they've known when this tournament was New
Zealand cricketers none and these players have been at the
IPL hardly playing any crickets. And I'm glad they're getting
the money for it, but you know, this is New
Zealand represented at an international tournament and I just don't
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think that's good enough.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Well, you think about how I think you look. Ben
Ond's about how it manifested itself. So so you know
what difference did it make? Well, it made a lot
of difference. And those are the things that we're talking
about those simple mistakes. You saw Afghanistan who were absolutely
drilled into New Zealand from the start. You know, I
thought that their batting was measured at the top of
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the order, that they didn't smash the ball around because
they weren't able to in those conditions. One of the
things that we're seeing in the tournament, I think, and
it's happening in both the USA and in the West Indies,
is that the ball is swinging around quite a lot,
and it's also carrying on off the pits. There's quite
a lot of scene movement and that means, you know,
for me that the batsmen had to change their approach.
(12:44):
So you're not seeing in the IPL you're seeing sometimes
sixty seventy eighty ninety runs scored in the power play.
We're not seeing anything like that in this tournament at
the moment. And the sides who are adjusting are the
ones who are doing well in New Zealand to me.
You know, we saw Ellen come out and as they
said on Krikinfoe, he tried to hit the ball into
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the ocean first ball. I mean, it was a creatibly
full of shot in those conditions. Again, if we look
at how things manifest themselves. I thought that bowl pretty
well two for twenty two. He was on the money
and he's a player who's been playing a lot in
the IPL. Henry, I thought, just bowl too short when
he was getting a movement, you know, you want to see.
(13:26):
I think the bowlers who are in rhythm and who've
had a good build up when the ball is moving
around as it is, they pitched the ball up a
lot more. Otherwise, I think Henry gave the batsman too much,
too much work really and too much length, too short.
Satner and I thought bold well brace well three overs
nine to twenty seven got smacked, but Ferguson was okay.
(13:46):
But again, if we the fielding mistakes show that they
weren't in the zone and that build up has not
been satisfactory. Jerry, you talked about how much training they
did under light. It's my understanding is that they had
one session and I heard Became Williamson talking about you
know that they have to they get allocated time, so
they get what they get and again you would know
(14:10):
all of that going into the tournament, so you know
what preparation you have to do before you get there.
I thought one of the other things. That was absolutely
extraordinary in this New Zealand performance. And I was yelling
at the at the TV when it happened, was that
Williams and brought Mitchell on to bowl the nineteenth over.
That that was just bizarre and sixteen runs came off it. Again.
(14:31):
You know, Mitchell's done very limited bowling and international T
twenty stuff, strange things.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Yeah, that was the That was the decision to complete
Bracewell's compliment, wasn't it. When he went for that he
went he was hit for three sixers I think in
his third over, and he was a bit reluctant to
use him again, but he left it so late and
as you say, the nineteenth over to bring just one
over from Mitchell, that was a you know, it was
(14:58):
a bit desperate, wasn't it. The whole thing had a
look of it like that. So yeah, things just did
not go well. And even in the best batting too,
just felt mistakes were made right from the start. I
can't understand, you know, someone like Vanellen. You know, I
didn't think that the ball was swinging aggressively. I didn't
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think it was swinging wildly. It was just shaping gently back.
It was his first ball, and he was he bowleded
very full and really it was a regulation left dam
And you've got Bolt there, surely you know.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
As an opener.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
The opposition have got Feruki that you know that he's
going to swing it, probably a little bit as much
as Bolt, but you've got Bolt there to bowl at
you with a new ball. Come on, pitch it full
to me, keep it up to me, swing it at me,
give me some practice. This is part of your surely
part of your preparation. And you shouldn't be caught by
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surprise trying to hit it into the ocean. You shouldn't
be caught trying to go too wide with it. It
just goes down past mid d if anything, or straight
back at the bowl, so you use the full width
of your bat. That's pretty basic, isn't it. We want
someone like fin Allen to bat between twenty four and
(16:19):
thirty balls. That's all we want from your Finn, not
one ball. That's very important start to our game.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Well, Luke Ronky said in something that I saw on
Instagram before the game, we have to understand our plans
and their wicket taking balls and the skills they have,
and we have to back our own style and making
sure we go out with the full belief and how
we want to play as a New Zealand cricket team. Well,
(16:50):
you can try and decipher that, but the point is
if we have to understand our plans and their wicket
taking balls. I thought Allan showed an absolute failure to
understand that. And like you, Jerry, I agree it wasn't
moving around viciously. But for some of these players, they're
so used to playing where the ball doesn't move in
(17:12):
it's so flat and they've got to make adjustments when
the ball moves around. And that's a test of how
these guys will go. Now they've got the West Indies
on Wednesday and they're potentially out of the tournament unless
they can change things. One of the things I would do,
I would drop Allen. I'd get revengerin he should have
played Yester. That wouldn't It wouldn't have made the difference
between the two teams. But I just think about dropping
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Allen and saying it's just not good enough. And this
is the message when you need to send You dropped
a simple catch, you played a terrible shot and you
contributed nothing, and you've gone will they do that, probably not.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
He's been injured and as recovering from injury, so you
know that's another person who hasn't been playing a lot
of cricket, as was the case with a lot of
these people. The point you make is, yeah, it is
the West Indies and tournament over. If you don't, wouldn't
that game? But how do you get it right? Apparently
the team meeting after the game was one of hard talking.
(18:10):
That was the words of Luke Ronky. We had long,
hard discussions. But how do you change it in a
short space of time.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Very hard to when you come in with nothing behind you.
That's the problem. And I think you know the West
Indies will be licking their lips about playing the side.
I mean, I think one of the things well, I
think one of the things you got to think about
it is do you send a signal that we expect
more from our plans so you say to Allen you
can stand down for this match. That's something I would
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certainly think about mentally. How do you do it? I
think it's very hard. When you watched the comboy at
the top of the innings and Williamson and Mitchell all
scratching around seemingly unable when the ball was moving around,
just to get bat on ball and to push it.
But I in the gaps and look for ones and
twos and so on. I think they've got to go
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back to a really basic and simple structure. I think
if the ball's moving around, you've got to encourage the
balls to pitch the ball up. Obviously, they have to
do a lot of work on their fielding, and the batsmen,
you know, had to stop going. I think for these,
you know, the all or nothing shots, I think they've
got to look to get you know, thirty forty fifty
in the powerplay, not lose too many like it's at
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the top, and see if they can build on that.
You know, you know, one of the things is I
say that we're seeing is the balls moving around. So
they've got to change the plans.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Look, when you get into situations where either the pitcher
is doing a little bit and it's difficult to play
the big shots, you have to rain your game in
a little bit. You just cannot keep playing wildly irrespective
of what's happening in front of you. Now, that can
be up to the bowler if he's doing it well.
(19:52):
Before a pictures. So it's drifting or it's dropping or
whatever it is, or when it hits the surface and
does something you were just and so you start to
show your craft as a batsman. Now we have got
those sorts of players, Ah Williamson, Now we have to
we have to be smart. We've generally been quite a
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smart side in tournaments. We haven't scored towering number of runs,
but we've got to a total that is competitive and
fought away and scrapped away and held our catchers. That's
the way that New Zealand has has got through to
the second phase of all these t twenty tournaments so
(20:37):
far that they've played. We're going to probably miss this one,
I'm thinking. I mean, I would be thinking. Uganda would
say to themselves we can beat New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You know that.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
That's the way that they played yesterday, New Zealand. So
look at the thinking yesterday too. Williamson steering a ball
to slip when presumably he wanted to go to the
right of slip, but there was a short third manner
as well.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
What is the point?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Where's the value of that shot? It shows no power
coming from the captain. It was a weird stroke. And
I think Ian Smith said there's a shot of a
man who hasn't played any cricket recently, and that's absolutely
right Chapman. You know, when you're facing rushed car and
you get one dragged down just a little, he plays
(21:26):
a big sort of pull and its bold. You've got
to be playing that and say to yourself, what's the
risk of rushing khn He is a flat quick and
he's going to skid on at me. He doesn't turn
the ball wildly, but he's going to skid on at me.
I'm not going to play those until I'm not he
only got four. If he was forty four, yes you
(21:47):
might play the poll shot, but until you get a
start because you're a main batsman at number six, especially
when you're four down for twenty or whatever they were
four for forty, you know you tuck it away for
a single. I mean that's brain that's brain power. We've
lost that we've lost that ability to assess situations in
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a game and how you're playing. Isn't that what cricket's about,
not just going out and slogging and bashing against a
good team. You cannot bash your way to one hundred
and eighty and that's all score. One hundred and eighty
is a good total we're seeing actually in this tournament
so far.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
How dored age gives you a chance?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, the England Australia game. Australia two hundred, didn't they
They had two hundred and they had four players in
the thirties, No one was They scored it a good
strike rate, but they didn't have the real thrashbash six
hitters and as many sixes as you could hit. But
they had thirty nine to thirty. They were the top
(22:52):
four run scorers. I'm interested in the pitches and what
assessment we can make from afar of these pitches. They
are variable, aren't they. You watch the IPL Garth and
the quality of play to me seems totally different from
what you've talked about in terms of the IPL to
this World T twenty.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
There is a difference, isn't there enormous? And I think
you know it's a much more even contest between bat
and ball in this T twenty World Cup. You know,
we talked off air Brian about the scores in the
IPL this season. You know, there were scores in excessive
two hundred and fifty runs I mean, it's just an
(23:34):
absolute smug fest the batsman. You know, they know that
they can just clear their happ and they know exactly
where the ball is going to be in terms of
bounce and movement and so on.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I mean Bolt was successful in the IPL in the
power playoff and with just a little bit of movement
but in the air, but the movement goes very quickly.
There's a limited amount of spin because I think you know,
we're also seeing that the ball is turning quite a lot.
It's gripping on some of these pitchers, so you saw,
and it's gripping also off the medium paces and the
(24:06):
quick bowl is a little bit and sitting up. So
I've seen batsman having to play different games, and that's
where I think players like Conway and Williamson look completely
out of sorts yesterday, you know, pushing hard at the
ball and getting across the crease a lot. Williamson was
lucky not to be out there bw early in his
innings and only made nine. It is you know, I
(24:26):
think Jerry and I are saying exactly the same thing
in a different way that you've you have to be
able to say, look that the scores unless you're playing
at Bridgeton, which looks like a good pitch in Australia,
as he says, scored two hundred. But you have to
be thinking about if you're playing on these pitches and
they all know at night time it's going to move
around and going to be a bit different. And New
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Zealand talked about that going into this game, but we
didn't really see any adjustment as a result of it.
And the adjustment it's not just the batsman. The bowlers
have got to pitch the ball up and make the
most of that movement because there has been a lot
of scene movement at times as well. And as I say,
I thought that Henry just bowled too short. So so
again we just we haven't seen the brains trust converting
(25:08):
into execution on the field.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
It was very well, very disappointing, but very different conditions
to the IPL and as Jerry says, players have got
to learn to adapt and they've got very little time
to do that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The other thing I wanted to talk about was the
ticket prices. People are refusing to pay two five hundred
dollars to play to watch India play Pakistan in New York.
What is wrong with those people? I mean, goodness me,
those tickets are giveaway, aren't they? Two five hundred dollars?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Well, for guard they might be.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
He sends Lisa out to Lisa out to work every
day least she heads off my word so he can
so he can go and buy his ticket to watch
Pakistan versus India. But that's right, Wads, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
It's the same in Providence.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
You and I watched that first game, didn't We were
Westerndies were laying and it wasn't very full at all,
so the home side was playing there. It's on the
outskirts that Providence is on the outskirts of Georgetown.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
It's about sort of ten k's away.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I'm not sure how easy it is to get access
there with buses and so on, but certainly the ticket
price is nine five hundred Guyanese dollars. That's about forty
five US say seventy three seventy five New Zealand dollars
to go.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So that's expensive.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
And maybe there was a bit of wait and see
how the Westerndies go as well.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Maybe that'll pick up if they beat New Zealand. I'm
not sure, but certainly the money is an issue.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
The White Fans have made some significant changes to their
team and the leadership of the group as they head
off to England for t twenty and one Day International Series.
Former Black Cap batting coach Craig McMillan giving up the
TV mike for another stan At coaching five years after
he gave up the job as the black Caps batting coach.
(27:23):
He's going to be batting coach for the White Fans
and also included in the side as Lauren Down five
months after she gave birth to her first child, so
she's back in the New Zealand side and well. From
Craig mcwillan's point of view, he's delighted to be back
coaching again for a new challenge.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Just thrilled to be part of the setup, really excited
with the schedule that the White Fans have got over
the next five or six months. So I can't wait
to get involved and be part of the setup. And
what I love about the White Fans set up is
they're also competitive, but they do everything with a smile
on their face and their laugh. So it's a great environment.
So that's something that as a player and as a
(28:04):
coach you do miss at times. And as you mentioned,
I've had five and a bit years away. I loved
the commentary because you're still part of the game, you
see it up close, you see all the action. You
still have those relationships, but coaching something a bit special
because you get to forge some special relationships with the
players and with the management as well. So as I said,
it's going to be a busy time for the White Fans,
(28:25):
but an exciting one. There's a number that I do
know quite well. There's a few others that I don't,
so I'm getting to know them during these camps that
we've had and the two to the UK, I'll get
close to them and build that relationship up. But what
hasn't surprised me is the talent that's within this White
Fans side. There's a good mixture of experience. We've got
some vastly experienced players and we've got some youngsters who
(28:46):
are finding their feet at the international level. And that's
always exciting when you've got that balance of the two
in a setup. So can't wait to get my hands
dirty start throwing some balls and being part of the group.
There's a lot of potential and there's a good mix,
as I said, between experience players who've played a lot
of international cricket and some others that are just finding
(29:07):
their feet at the end international level. I look at him,
is he gay? So we saw against England last season
showed how good a player she's going to be and
she's just finding the feet at the international level. And
sometimes it's really hard when you haven't played a lot
of domestic cricket and you get thrown into the international scene.
Sometimes it just takes a little while to find your
feet and that was great to see as you do
that last season. So we've got some youngsters who I
(29:29):
think are going to be superstars and years to come.
So I guess the onuses on us coaches is to
upskill then get them performing at that international level as
quickly as we can and get some consistency. And if
we do that, then the White Fans are going to
have a successful summer.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they develop on
that tour of England because it's important in terms of
the way the White Fans have been going. Bearing in
mind the home series that they just played against this
England type. For Lauren Down, she's delighted to be back
where she always thought she would be after she gave
birth to her first child.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Yeah, it was always in the back of my mind.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I knew that one I wanted to be a moment
and have family, but too that I still wanted to
give cricket a good crack and I was hoping that
if everything went well with giving birth and through the pregnancy,
that I would be able to return.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
And fortunately the comeback has gone pretty well so far.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
It's been tough at times and physically a bit training,
but it's been really good and it's nice being a
mom and still being able to play cricket as well. Yeah,
it's been challenging at times. I'm very grateful for sort
of my support network at home.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
No, my partner.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
I'm very fortunate with him that he can stay at
home and help look after Ruby while I'm training, and
it makes this whole.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Journey a whole lot easier.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
It's certainly been yet there's been some sleepless nights and
then getting up and trying to do a little bit
of training, which is a little bit harder than normal,
but when you come home at the end of the
day and see a little smiling.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Face, it all feels worth it.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Yeah, it's been yeah, tough, as I say, physically as well.
Obviously your body goes through a whole lot of change
through the pregnancy and then slowly trying to work back
into things and get back to sort of the fitness
I was at beforehand. It's been a bit tough being
at the bottom of the pack and the running sessions
with the White Firm, but I know I'll get back
there and it's been nice just to be back with
(31:12):
the group band training again. I think time away from
the game was actually quite nice. It was refreshing, and
then it just sort of made me kind of hungry
to get back and just want to get back into
the folders as soon as I could. And I knew
it was going to be tight in terms of time
frames getting back for this England series, but I just
wanted to give myself the best chance that I could
to put my hand up.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Unfortunately, I'm yea able to get on the plane next week.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Lauren down back as a White fan for the England tour.
That's it for the sedition of On the front Foot
more matches in the World T twenty, including New Zealand's
next match against the West Indies in Trinidad. So hopefully
the ticket prices can be sorted out for the match
between New Zealand and the West Indies and Trinidad. I'm
sure the locals would want to go along there and see.
(31:58):
If New Zealand don't win that game, then it's Uganda
Papu New Guinea and then the departure lounge home to
New Zealand because there'll be no more play. Thanks very
much guys for analyzing the first game for New Zealand.
We'll do it after the West Indies game. Garth for you, Jeremy,
(32:19):
You two chez wats.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
No problem at all.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Shame we've got that first start, but let's hope we're better.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Thanks once, Thanks guys, you and so let's be everything
for bright us up on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
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