November 2, 2025 • 50 mins
This week was a clean sweep for Blackcaps over England in ODI’s, did England come for a holiday?
Kane ends is T20 international career, changes to the one day rules explained by top umpire Wayne Knights and disappointing end to one day career for one of the greats of the women's game, your views appreciated email onthefrontfoot20@gmail.com
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The Black Caps when the One Day Series was England
serious about this content. A top umpire explains the change
in rules for white ball cricket. Sophie Devine leads the
One Day circuit, but not how she wanted to, What
improvements to the White Friends need to make to compete,
And a surprise outcome for the Women's World Cup not
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so much India, the fact that they beat Australia to
get there had a lovely story from Club Cricket, sometimes
forgotten part of the domestic game. There is no surprise,
though Jeremy Cooney, that Kane Williamson has called time on
his T twenty career. Still we missed, of course, this
contribution to awful of the game has been amids but
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he winds down his personal involvement. It seems to me
a practical decision. He's handling his career how he wants
to finish it.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I guess yeah, I think that's right. Once high there. Look,
Williams has been a great player in all their formats,
hasn't he And he's going to continue to be in
the two that he's decided that he would like to
participate in. I think he's said to probably twice that
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he wants to try and get through to twenty twenty
seven when the next World One Day Cup is held
in South Africa and Zimbabwebia, and he hopes that he
can play a part in that. Well, that's great because
even in the one game that he played, I thought
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he made quite a difference personally. Not on the scoreboard maybe,
but beneath it all there are things going on. So
he's certainly in T twenty. He was a good T
twenty player at some stages of his career. Then he
found it more difficult to keep up with the scoring rate,
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I think because he preferred to try and see the
distance of the game and he wanted to make sure
that his side that he was playing for, whether it
was a franchise team or whether it was New Zealand side,
they didn't collapse in a heap, and so he became
more of that kind of backstopy kind of prevent collapse
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type of player. And sometimes he got a bit caught,
didn't he when the other player as well, who he
is batting was couldn't score it a decent clip.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And I think that was proven in that World Cup
match against India, wasn't it when he and Taylor were
going slow and we thought there's no who will win
that game at Old Trafford. But in fact Taylor and
Williamson handled it perfectly, didn't they in that partnership they did.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That was the two days one day game. As I
record it was yeah, yeah, and certainly you're right, there's
always in a one day game a bit more time
than you think. You feel that you're a bit behind now,
but there's a sense that, yeah, but if we are
still here at the end, we can actually do something
about that and we can catch up. And that was
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the case there.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And you to look at his stats and I just
had a quick look at them this morning, quite incredible,
you know. He averages fifty four in test cricket two
hundred runs forty eight in One Day Internationals seven thousand,
two hundred runs. And his T twenty record isn't that
bad either. Ninety three games he's played five average is
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thirty three and a stroke made of one twenty three.
So you know, he's he's right up there in the
greats of the game, and he's and that's proven.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He certainly is. There's there's no doubt about his quality
right throughout all the different demands that each format brings,
you know, and he's he's been captain for a lot
of those ninety three games, hasn't he, So he's sort
of shepherded the side around as well. I think he
might feel that he's leaving at a time when the
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game is looking as far as New Zealand are concerned,
there are some other options and he probably feels that
they might score at a different rate the top order
if you throw you know, Ravendra in there as well
as our T twenties like the Seiphids and the Finalens
and people like that, who score that you know, faster rate.
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They might offer a bit more and they're younger, you know.
And of course he will still continue to play franchise
Cricket wads. He's thirty five and people will want him
still most definitely. And I mean he's not picking and
choosing the tournaments that he plays, but he has the right,
I think, to pick and choose what he plays for
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under contract. He has his own control of his own contract,
doesn't he. And he's decided that he'll opped out of
T twenty and that's fine and everybody will respect him
for that. We're not doing a eulogy on his career
at the moment. That will come further down the line,
but it's you know, it's just a point to mark
in terms of Cain Williams and giving up T twenties
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internationally wadds. You remember he could certainly score it a clip,
you know, some stages I remember in that final, that
T twenty World Final, World Cup Final at was it
Dubai against Australia. Yes, Now, how many did he get?
I think he must have got an eighty or a
ninety there And that was against stark On and New
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Zealand lost the toss, which was the key part of
that whole tournament. And it was very slow during the
day and grippy, and it turned and then of course
the team batting second got it when the jew came
down and it made it very much easier to score.
So winning the toss was a very important Even Aaron Finch,
who was the Ossie captain, said well, actually I won
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all the tosses and I played a big part in
winning that tournament because of it. But that was a
brilliant innings. That eighty odd or ninety that he got
in the first innings for New Zealand. He just took.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He took the Ossies apart, and we'll certainly be acknowledging
those over a long period of time because he is
a brilliant cricketer and what you're talking about there is
his ability to be innovative and also play strokes that
many other cricketers probably can't play. But we'll still see
him around and I'm sure we're looking forward to seeing
him when the Test Arena against the West Indies who
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have arrived in the country but we don't know what
their squad is yet. They arrived in New Zealand and
Auckland and they're ready to get into the contest against
New Zealand and t twenties and one day let's talk
about one days. I know there are those who don't
like the term dead rubber, but I'm afraid at Wellington
Stadium it was a dead rubber. It left me wondering
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what might have been had there been something on the match.
I don't wish to lessen the black Cats performance. They
were professional and organized in most areas and there was
that little hiccup at the end, but the quality of
Fuchs and Tickner got them through when they required the
lower order to finish off the victory. Let's just have
an assessment of the one day series from England coach
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Brenda McCallum.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Obviously pretty disappointing. You know when you come over here
with high hopes and then you know that taking on
a very good New Zealand team in their own conditions
is going to be difficult.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We expected more, but.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Credit to New Zealand, I thought they outplayed us in
all three games. We fought hard at certain times, but
we didn't get enough runs and unfortunately we didn't give
our bowls enough enough to bowl that. But you know,
we'll walk away with some lessons and make sure that
we try and improve on some of those areas. Those
areas probably around adapting to conditions a bit quicker. I
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think Daryn Mitch was a great example of what to
do in tricky conditions. I thought he laid the ball
off when he wanted to, and he attacked when he
needed to, and I thought his tempo of how he
played in tricky conditions was a great example of for
us how we can improve in the one day format.
I think in Test Krigg in T twenty, I think
we've got our team plate and we understand how to play,
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but in one day credit we're still searching a little
bit for that and we've got to We've got to
improve on that pretty quickly. We've got some talented players,
but unfortunately our performances at the moment in this form
of the game aren't quite up to scratch and we
need to rectify that.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
A fair assessment I think then from McCollum of his
own team, they were well short. Having said that, I
have to say answer the personal view, Jerry. I believe
that England squad was here on holiday, a golfing trip
with a little bit of cricket. They lost three tosses,
but they're not the first side to lose tosses and
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have to face that issue. The pictures, yes, may have
been demanding, but doesn't that require sides to adjust their
game to suit. The much vaunted bass ball approach might
suit on State Highway one just south of Hunterville. Pictures
like that, But the game is all about being able
to adapt conditions, and England didn't. Am I being unfair?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, you're right about not adapting and not being quite well.
They seemed sucked in by their own mantra in a way.
Now all they misunderstand it because I thought there was
a clear differential between the way that New Zealand play
and the best sides have always played. Actually, that's what's
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in front of them. There's what you were just saying, really,
that the conditions and how you then change and adapt
and be flexible about that. You know, you see the
dangerous bowlers off, You get your boundaries and you score
runs in between those boundaries to keep it going. You
start your innings properly, you know, and you try to
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have wickets when the last ten overs come through. England
didn't get to the last ten overs. I think they
got a couple of balls in the last match, but
other than that, they were plenty of overs short and
there were so many wickets down by the tenths over
so in the first power play they lost eleven wickets
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over three games. In that first power play New zeally
had lost four. So the you know, the wickets, you know,
gave the bowlers a bit of help, man. I mean
they England Wads are a talented side and they probably
did have fun, but it wouldn't have been on the fields.
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And they all know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You know, this is a this is a side that
if McCullum and et al who picked the teams, if
they feel it, they'll make changes. Look what they did
with Anderson. Look how they bring other players in just
out from out of the cold, so all the players
will know that if they're not scoring, they got a
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talented top six. You can't deny that they just played
really poorly and made different and bad choices. They had
a world class bowler and a couple of the games
in Archer. They've got a good legie. They had a
left armor who could swing it. Yeah, they really weren't
missing a lot. If you went through that those England
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players over in England, you wouldn't change that side too much.
You might throw Will Jackson, he might throw Phil Saltan
there at the top. But that's it wasn't a bad side.
They played badly and New Zealand showed I think that,
you know, we may not be the best side in
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the world, but we are one of the smarter ones.
We sought things out very quickly. I mean Hamilton and
I was at that game. We won that match because
we were one for thirty at the end of ten
overs and we had taken the heat of Joffra Archer
out basically of the game, and instead of being four down,
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we were one down and we had all those wickets
left and then we caught up. We've got players who
can do that, like through Ravendra and so on, who
can catch up. And Mitchell played played solidly right throughout
the tournament. So yeah, where did that? The larger question
for me is what will the Aussies be thinking? Will
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they be thinking these English batsmen can't handle a moving ball,
they don't know where their stumps are and so that
will be because that's what it looked like to me.
And the winning margins was thirteen overs, seventeen overs and
five overs. I mean they are massive, they are massive.
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Seventeen overs is over one hundred runs.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, they were certainly beaten. Yeah, it'd be interesting to
see what an impact it does have on the ashes.
I mean, a totally different form of the game and
I think there'll be mentally attuned when they get to that.
But from a New Zealand point of view, you talk
about Mitchell there, I thought he was quite outstanding. It
just shows the value of a solid, smart thinking cricketer
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coming in in the middle of the new order in
these games. I thought he was quite outstanding. Really when
you look at it. He was the top run scorer,
and you know you've got Ravender and you've got other players,
but to Mitchell, to me, was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He did exactly what we've been saying. He played what
was in front of him, and he knew that he
had overs up his sleeve. At the end of the
innings that England had given to New Zealand, it was
almost as if they were playing a sixty over game.
New Zealand, they have sixty overs to get there get
the thirty odd that England had used up. So I
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mean he was smart, wasn't he. The first innings at Toweronga,
he had to work quite hard. It wasn't a really
flowing fluid kind of innings, but it showed in Hamilton.
He came out immediately and started hitting back over the
bowler's head. We know that's his signature shot and we
know that he's in good touch when he starts playing that,
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and then he started showing as some of the other
shots as well. So Young struggled. Ravendra was reckless at
Tawonga and then played very well when Williamson was there
batting with him, And I want to just underline that
gently as well for people to think about Mitchell. We've
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mentioned Latham was a wee bit mixed. Sentner's timing the
ball out of his skin, isn't he? I believe he's
just hitting the ball very cleanly. We are aside Wadds.
We're halfway in this, you know, between the World Cup cycles.
Twenty three was the last one, twenty seven is the next.
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We're here, we are now most of these players will
be available. The oldest Mitchell will be Mitchell, and Comy
will be thirty six, Bracel will be thirty six to
thirty seven, and Williamson will be thirty seven. Otherwise, you know,
the Santana's, the Latham's, the Henry's will be thirty five
and then you go down from there down to folks
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at twenty five, and that's adding two years on to
their current ages when they will be there for the
World Cup. So most of these players and I don't
think thirty seven is too old nowadays. I mean, right,
Sharma played the other day in an ODEI and got runs,
didn't he an Aussie eight?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And Jimmy Anderson's that's brightly forty one, isn't he? Yeah, yes,
I don't know that I'd want to be doing all
that at forty one. Just on off the bowlers, even
even with the resources tested with injuries and players out Jamison,
Henry O'Rourke, et cetera, the bowlers came up superbly. I thought,
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duffy folks And Tikner, who wouldn't even in the original squad,
came in a couple of fourths and you know, he's
an interesting character. Tickner is a bowl You don't think
he's going to deliver for you, but boy he fronts.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I think he's changed was I think he's changed as
a bowler. I think the couple of years at Derby
have he bowls a different length. Now he works and
operates from bringing a batsman forward, he can still drag
it down, you know, and test you on the bounce.
But I thought he bowled smartly and he nipped it about.
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But maybe the wickets helped him a little bit. But
you know, he added things, didn't here. What a good
story it is, Yes, you know the difficulties that he
has had personally, I think it's a beauty, isn't it.
And then to get the runs at the end with
folks to ease New Zealander. That's what you like to
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see eight and nine starting to just get twenty runs
when they matter. I liked seeing those sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And he was against a bowling attack that was pretty useful.
Rashid had come in. He was the man who was
supposed to clean up the tail, wasn't he raiding cars?
And Overton again is another one who was unheralded in
terms of his performances. But they did it against a
pretty good bowling attack and that was the creditable thing
from their point of view.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh yeah, And you can believe that England would be
wanting to try and salvage something out of it, wouldn't they. Yes,
And the pitch certainly gave them some you know, all
the bowl of some assistance. So yeah, no, it was
New Zealand should feel pretty pleased about that and I
hope they keep that going through the white bull stuff
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against the West Indies.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The current series between the Black Aps and England has
seen some changes to the laws that apply to white
ball cricket. Laws that might not be readily evident, although
the one that seems more contentious than any others is
for one of a better term, the white ball wide
and I think it's still going to create some controversy
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to explain it and other changes. Joined by one of
our top umpires whose job it is to adjudicate the laws,
Wayne Nights. He's currently in Australia for the series with India,
which is an important exercise for a New Zealand umpire way.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, it's a change of environment, change of teams and yeah,
it just makes everything just that bit more challenging. I
guess for us it.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Was my intro.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Right, there's been modifications to the laws and the one,
as I said, that seems to be more contentious for
the fans both at the ground and on television is
the wide and that has been adjusted for white ball cricket.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yes, so people watching will notice that there's a new
what we call a guideline, and I want to make
sure that people understand it's not a hard fixed line.
It's a guideline and it does move. But they'll notice
where a little white line beside the stumps used to
determine where protected areas on the pitch where players can't run,
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they've now extended all the way down to the front
to pop increase and that's a guideline for leag side wides.
Now for the umpires to judge.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The leag side one is probably the one that does
create a comment. How do you judge what is a
leag side wide? Is the fact of consistency important there
in your decision making?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Well, of course any umpire wants to be as consistent
as possible on anything they do. But in terms of
the leag side wide, what used to happen is we
had sort of an unwreck ANDed rule. If you like,
where the football passed on an imaginary fourth stup line
and the batter's moved across and it would have fit
the batter, then the bowl will get the benefit of
that doubt, and it won't be a wide. What they've
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done is this is a three month trial by the
way for the leg side wides, so it may or
may not be kept. But at the moment what they've done,
as I've done that protectular so one foot outside from
the middle stump creates that little bit of more leeway.
I guess for the bowler. There's a couple of things
that people probably want to would probably want to know
when they're watching. First of all, is that it's where
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the ball joins the front crease or the popping crease.
So from a depth perception of candle, little tricky for
an umpire to determine that, especially the ball is swinging,
but that's where it's determined. So suddenly that can look
like it's gone wrong way down the leg side. If
it's inside that that new wide guideline on the leg side,
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at the point where it goes through the popping crease,
it shouldn't be called the wide. The next point, and
this makes it even more difficult for empires, is that
this is determined by where the batter is standing at
the point of a realisa from the bowler. So at
the point of release. If the batter is either heel
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of his foot if you like, or her foot is
outside that line, that line has now moved to that point.
So if a batter is standing quite well outside leg
stump and then moves across that leg side, guideline has
now moved further out to where that bats heel was.
So it's a little bit more complicated than just a
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fixed line in that sense. If everything is inside that line,
then the line is fixed. It's a little bit like
the off side, so we judge it where it batters toes.
Anything outside the off stump, that off side guideline moves accordingly.
So and once again it's at the point of delivery.
So if a batter and moves around the crease pre delivery,
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it doesn't make any difference to us. It's at the
point of delivery.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay. The other thing too is if a plan does
go world wide of the off stump, where does the
wide line come then, Because it could go in terms
of the measurements off the cut portion of the pitch
or couldn't it does that the law about that still.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Apply absolutely, so it still has to land on the pitch.
Anything that lands off the pitch and that's actually a
new one. It's a sort of a tweet to the
ICC playing conditions anyway, where with TV umpires, if a
ball has patched off the pitch, or we think it
may have, we can go and get a checked by
the TV umpire, whereas before until very recently, we couldn't
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do that, which caused problems because the bowler can get
a new way and you just you don't see it,
but you can't go up to check it. So coming
back to the wideline, the wide, Yes, so the return
crease or those side creases that you see on the
edge of the pitch, if a ball passes outside those
on or outside those, even though it batter moves all
the way across, it's still going to be called white.
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So it has to be within those, within those parameters.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The one that I feel simply off, and this is
a personal observation, is for the off spinner, pitching outside
off stump, spinning sharply down leg side gets called wide,
And that.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
To me.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
A personal view, and I can't get your personal view,
and that you have to apply the laws. I find
that hard to accept from a bottle's point of view.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah, and I would probably tend to agree with you.
To be honest, they can be they can be punished
for actually turning the ball too hard, But that's where
I think the new guideline will expt And the chat
with some of the players that I've had is that
they think it's going to help the spin bottles more
than the past bowls for it pretty much exactly what
you've just said. So if they do turn it too much,
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it goes past the better, but it's still inside that
new white guideline. It won't be called whereas in the
past it would have been.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Does this apply to other than international cricket, like domestic cricket,
of these same laws applying.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
No, So it's a playing condition. It's not a law right,
So laws are obviously determined the overriding like an mu
if you like. And playing conditions are a competition by
competition set of rules that either add to or replace laws.
So this is a playing condition. So for example, I
know in New Zealand domestic cricket it's not being applied.
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It's a three month trial purely set up by the ICC.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Another new playing condition is the changing of the ball
after what at the end of the thirty fourth over, Well,
you don't change the ball, You just then use one
of the two balls that have been used. Who decides that.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
The field and captain. So for example, the other day,
I've only had a I've only done one ad isis
to change the other day in Sydney. It was very
very quick. You just show the captain two balls and
they pick one pretty quick. It's pretty easy process. And
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I think what it does. It just, yeah, brings a
bat is into the game in the back end maybe
a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah. The other thing too, is what happens if that
ball is lost? Saying the fortieth over, do you go
back to the other ball that has been used in
that case?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Okay, So for all game games, we have a box
of used balls of varying degree of wear and tear.
That ball does go into that box. It doesn't have
to be the one that gets replaced, but it goes
into that box with the other balls, and it's up
to the umpires. If a ball does get lost, it's
up to the umpires to decide the closest the closest
match at that time.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Have you had much reaction from the players about the
changes and their understanding of the changes.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yep, there's been. There's been quite a few questions asked,
not just by players but by commentators like yourself and
others involved. And it's I think it's fast. I think
it's brilliant that we're doing this chat to clarify a
few things, because sometimes public either miss informed or uninformed,
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and then all of a sudden, the player or a
numpire doesn't call a leg side why that would have
in the past. They're wondering, they're left wondering why.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So also, there's been a change to the outfield catch
now I think they call it. Do they call it
bunny hop or something that when you when you take
a catch over the boundary throat of the air, get
back into the field of playing catch. It is that?
Is that what has been changed?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, So if you dive deep into this, it's actually
quite complicated. But for a single single field of catch,
if you like, it's quite straightforward. So your terminology is
correct in terms of a relaxed terminology called a bunny hop.
So what they want to prevent as an example, and
it's hard without any videos or photos. But as for that,
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what hasn't hasn't changed is that the first point of
contact has to be from inside the field play, so
you can't leave the field of the play and then
jump up and knock the ball back and play. That
was never buch You had to start inside the field
to play, throw the ball up. But what used to
what was available to plays was they could throw the
ball up, leave the field to play, then jump up,
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throw the ball up in the air while they're not grounded,
land back outside the field of the play, and then
run in and catch it and then land inside of
the field of play. And they had unlimited what you
call bunny hops outside of the field to play, So
as long as you went ground at the time you're
touching the ball, you could just keep going. So this
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new glory has been brought in to circumnavigate that. So
you basically get one chance of touching it outside of
the field of play. The next time you touch the ball,
you have to land back in the field to play
to prevent that bunny hop situation.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
As an umpire, and you've been doing top level umpiring
for an number of years and you've got a fair
amount of experience, changes like this, do they tax you
a little bit in terms of adjudicating on decisions. Do
you have to think a little bit more clearly before
you go out to a game until you get used
to the changes?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yes, And also when you're making decisions like, for example,
the new legs sidewide playing adition that's come in, you
certainly have another second or two to think about it,
just to make sure you just don't react like you
normally would bring yourself back and flying to think Okay,
that's there or not there or wherever. And I think
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that from an on point point of view, we've certainly discussed.
It's only been a few games so far, but it
does make it more challenging for us because instead of
really just focusing on that off sideline, we now have
to focus on a leg sideline as well. And those lines,
as I say that, guidelines they move all the time,
so that in particular has definitely been more challenging for us.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Can you take an appeal from a player if they
don't like your decision in terms of going back and
having a look at the television if they think you've
been either unfair or perhaps a little bit too generous
or is that it? Do you you get an umpire's
review for Catches Don't you for clean catches if they've
been at ground level. Is there any challenge open to
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players on those other issues.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
In the IPI there are? Yes. They've got their own
set of playing additions which allow players to review wides
whether a call or not called. Other than that the
standards DRS or decision review system with the ICC they
can they can't review wides, but they can review, for example,
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a runout or a stumping as well, but should not
not many people would know. But if they think they've
been hard done by by a runout, they are I'm
allowed to review it within fifteen seconds. So it's not
just LW's and courts, which is primarily the review what
their view systems for.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Generally with runouts and stumpings, the umpires go up for
confirmation anyway, don't they.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Yeah, we do have a chat about under use and
overuse of technology. If the technology is there, it's always
a good idea to use it. Every now and then you
will get somebody who doesn't slide their back properly with
a runout of something like that or stumping where a
wacker keepers got their gloves in front of the stumps
where they're not allowed to it becomes a noble, So
all of a sudden you've got a situation that it's
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not out and a noble and a free hit. So
it changes pretty rapidly from one side to the other.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, so you're in Australia. What you're doing in the
India Australia series, yep.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
So I was bort over. I umpired the last of
the odio's in Sydney a few days ago, and then
today we've got a first of the T twenties and
camera and then there's the second T twenties in Melbourne
on Friday night, and then yeah, I heap that came.
After that, we've got a serious of quist Dundy starting
a few days after. Get home.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Enjoy it still, I love it.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, as a fellow one part of mine once said,
it beats working for a living, so yeah, it's certainly challenging.
It's you know, you can make a living from it,
but only unfortunately, only very few people can. So I'm
very fortunate and lucky and that that I am in
a position where I can do it absolutely all.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Right, Well, we look forward to seeing you back home
and or before I go. There are no other changes
to the laws that I should have been talking about
that are relevant to watching, either on television or at
the ground.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
There's a few minor ones, but I could probably go
on for another hour on all those and I don't
on board anyone, so not relevant to the viewer. I
don't think that I can think of.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's great, all right. We look forward to seeing you
back here in New Zealand and I'm sure you'll have
a hand in the short form games anyway for the
West Indies series and the test match umpires come in
from overseas, don't they.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yep, that's right. We have one home umpire for test
matches as a reserve umpire for those Test matches. But
you know we're involved all the white Balls series, so looking.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Forward to plenty of cricket guard. Thanks very much for
your time and we'll see you back here in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Thanks Brian Pleasure, thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Interesting comments from Wayne Nights during not much what we
can add to that, but there will be contentious issues
that come up and that we can discuss at odd
times and be nice to have Wayne Nights back talking
with us because it's good to hear rather than our
vision of the laws. How they apply the laws and
it you know, it's a tough job. I suppose the
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amount of pressure that the umpires are under yep.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And I think it's already happened. Joe Roots dismissal and
Hamilton he was very much angered by the decisions two
balls prior to edging down the leg side because he
decided he had to go over it because he wasn't
going to get that wide call one of the other parts.
So I think he might have quietly or at least
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put his bat down in the changing room slightly harder.
And so, yeah, the only the interesting thing I sought
from Wayne was I didn't realize that that line, that
new line that they've put in is movable depending on
where the batsmen takes up their stance. Yeah, so that's
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an interesting point, isn't it. So that's got to be
remembered as well. But how batsmen adjust to this that
will be the next interesting thing. Do they have to
play more on the leg side on the front foot
with Waddle and Cody?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
The Women's World Cup has come to an end. No
surprise that India beat South Africa. The surprise to me
was that they beat Australia to get there and poor
ord Alyssa Heay, she dropped a couple of key catchers
that meant they fell out of the chance of getting
another World Cup to their run name. But as I
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said in two for Sapey Divine Jerry, her career didn't
end as she would have liked it. But that lost
to England at the Woman's World Cup closed the one
day career and the White Fans bowed out of the Cup,
finishing eighth. It wasn't due to Divine's performance at the tournament.
She was outstanding. They got your two hundred and eighty
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nine runs at fifty seven top score of one hundred
and twelve. She was fifth on the list of run getters.
She's had a remarkable career. Teammates and opponents alike have
been glowing in their praise for her commitment and contribution
to the game, lifting as were one of the greats
of the women's game. And I think that's a fair point.
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First played Jerry two thousand and six, nineteen years at
the top level, and while she's giving up one days,
she sells teems to want to play tea twenty. What
a hell of a career she's had.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Beca isn't it an incredible longevity in the game. Yeah,
it's I didn't realize actually she I mean, she's obviously
been one of the top women's players for a long
time and the runs because of that. You know, there's
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a lot of more pressure on you, isn't there. It
was like Richard Hadley in a way that there's always
expectation on him to actually perform well and also on
Sophie Thought and the pressure just to constantly score is
heaped on you every match of your play and it's
a bit unrealistic really. But she started as a quick bowler.
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I believe that. Is that what's usual reared at all?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, she was mainly she was mainly a bowler from
the outset and developed.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Area and better number eleven.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, well she was. She was certainly down the order,
but I mean she was sort of seventeen or eighteen
years of age too at that stage, so you don't
slot into the top level. Even Amelia cur had to
wait then she to get included. But you just have
a look at her stats. One hundred and fifty nine matches,
four two hundred run she's averaged thirty two in odiis
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nine hundred's there and t twenty career abuting one hundred
and forty six games, top score of one hundred and five,
three thousand runs and average of twenty eight to strike
rate of one hundred and twenty. I mean all those
stats just to add to what New Zealand's achieved at
times in the women's game, and she certainly hasn't let
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them down by her performance. There are a few things
I think that New Zealand Cricket has to address in
terms of the women's game, but finding a replacement for
a Sophie Devine is not going to be the easiest
question they have to answer, is it.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
No, not at all. But I mean I will remember
her as an easy power hitter with the ability to
potentially alter the balance of matches. I mean, she had
such a natural hand eye coordination, maybe through her early
hockey interest playing see the women's hockey and Wellington at
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aged fourteen heavens above and then so she's obviously a
naturally strong person and an athlete hitting down the ground
and to the leg side. You're right about the nineteen
years that's I mean, she's witnessed and played through lots
of change, hasn't the amateur days almost, you know, and
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then she's clearly liked the game and had a desire
to want to improve and get better with it, and
with that instinctive hitting that she has, and she would
have been there at the start of the T twenty
format that you just mentioned one hundred and forty six
that she played. It was a good piece of timing
(39:36):
for her, another good piece of timing, and you know,
the franchises around the world were naturally attracted to her.
You know, she played three for three teams in Australia
and four teams in England. She played in the West
Indies is she's in the Women's IPL But right through
it all, I've always had the impression because I don't
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know Sophie and I've never spoken to her, she was
a proud New Zealander that always kind of came across
in her comments, and you know it meant a lot
that she was representing us, and you know, sport was
through Sport always throws you lots of challenges and you know,
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you have good and lots of good days, and inevitably
she'll look back sometime and she'll find those good and
bad memories. But I think probably it'll be the teammates
and those times in the dressing rooms and those discussions
and those conversations that she'll remember, you know. And I
mean she's had her challenges, hasn't she. She's a Type
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one diabetic, Yeah, so you would know more about and
what that means on playing days.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh yeah, I mean that's tough. I mean that can
be mentally draining, but also physically draining as well, particularly
when you're you know, having to go through a long
time at the crease, the amount of perspiration and the
need to keep your blood sugar levels balanced. I mean
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that in itself, playing cricket very very difficult, and she's
handled it well and the figures prove it.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
And I mean also she has addressed the importance of
mental issues in the game.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yes. I think that's something many of the women are
dealing with at the moment too, aren't they, and looking
to settle themselves into the professional era and the demands
on the mental approach.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yep, so played a lot, witnessed a lot, given a
lot and missed on the field. Now and it's now
up to her, I guess if she wants to stay
in the game and make an impact in some other
way if she wants to, because there's lots to do
in New Zealand women's cricket. As you were just pointing
out a moment ago, if we look at this last tournament,
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which has been pretty tough, they didn't quite play to
the level that we've seen them play, and then there
was a little bit of a bit of ill luck
with the rained out matches and so on. But you know,
raising the structure of our play in New Zealand really
important over the next five ten years.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
It's not often that the club events gained attention, but
finally this week one player in the Wellington Club competition
deserved to have his efforts acknowledged in the Wellington Domestic
Club T twenty. Nick Greenwood has been playing the off
season for Jersey in the Channel Islands, both club and
ICC events. Last weekend he displayed club commitment, having just
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returned to Wellington from his overseas assignment. Nick tell us
the story about your return to playing for your club tighter.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yes, I flew back from Jersey on Saturday morning four am,
going to Auckland, Sad picking up from Wines and the airports.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
At m of the morning.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I went home, grabbing my kid together, went down and
washed the first game in the morning where Tighter beat Aberhart,
which meant they qualified for the semi final, and they
asked if I wanted to play, and I said, yeah,
of course. So I rocked up in the afternoon and
I actually didn't have to do much. My brother actually
did all the scoring. I came at the end and
(43:27):
then the game's pros done and then went to the
final on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And you played a part in that because you bowled
towards the end. It probably the most difficult time.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, bowl the last two hours. They kept catch
some kindly game in the ball we got across the line.
So it was awso performance from the boys. But you know,
I think the best way to get over your jet
legs sometimes just get on it and play some cricket
or stay on the sun and want.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Did it affect you mentally? Did you sort of wonder
what you're doing or was it just something that you
do naturally.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I can't say Saturday Afternoon is my best performance career club,
but it was just good to be back and on
the boys and help me keep me away to be honest,
so I probably wasn't at my best, but yeah, good
to be.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Could be back in Jersey for well half of you
about six months and playing for Jersey. Firstly, you qualify
by birth. Does that discount you from playing for New
Zealand if you ever.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Get the opportunity, no duty of being associate nation. I
can play for still both for New Zealand. I just
wouldn't be able to go back if I ever played
for I wouldn't be able to go back and play
for Jersey.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah right, And what's it like Jersey? It seems it
seems strange. What sort of cricket do they have over there?
How how strong is it?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
We have a very limited club cricket scene, only four teams,
but internationally we've managed to compete very well over the
past or like five years since I've been playing. We
almost qualify for a workout this year. That's thee our
net run rate after beating Scotland probably our biggest he
will win. So you know, it's a great experience playing
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those high level teams like the Netherlands and Scotland and whatnot,
and having those experiences with the goal of hopefully going
to work up one.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Day and you spend most of your time in Jersey
because I mean you closer to the French coast to
the English coast. But you know, there must be a
fair bit of money you spent traveling around to play
in these tournaments or is that paid for by the board?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
H Jersey Cricket fund all the travel for the boys,
which is great, but obviously no one, no one gets
paid by Jersey Cricket. It's all, you know, amateur sports,
so for us competing against professionals most of the time,
but they pay for my travel, food, that sort of stuff,
so that's all looked after.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Can you reflect on what it's done for your game
over the last six months.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
I mean, having somewhere to go in the winter to
play cricket only benefits you. And to play at like
such a high level against you know, international teams is
only only beneficial for my cricket. So I'm very thankful
for them for what they do and they look after
me very well.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, I see, you've got a couple of hundreds in
the in various games. I had to look at some
of the school boarders you've got. You've got the ton.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, I got one hundred this summer in the
fifty over walk up qualifiers, so we've got one more
out of that in Qatar next year and then hopefully
we go into League two qualifiers, which would be nice.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
So you're going back, Ah.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
Yeah, there's a plan. Obviously, you have to weigh out
and see what happens in terms of the scheduling. I'm
still a little bit up in their Hopefully it doesn't
clash with Wellington summer too much, which I've been lucky
so far.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
But do you you play as an all rounder? Are
you an all rounder? Do you consider yourself an all rounder?
Or are you betsmany balls?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
I used to be definitely just more of a vetsman,
but I think we've the way the teams change. And
to a credit to Shane Jurgenson, he and she got
me bowling and probably gave me a little bit of
kick up the ass last year and told me to
work my bowling. And then it's a bit more and
I got a few over Zim for Wellington and since
then I bought a lot more for Jersey as well.
So I'd like to say still pending on the all
(46:59):
round of status, but yeah, definitely keen to keep going
with it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're still getting your land leagues back after coming back
from Jersey looking out at the base because the covers
are on at the moment. But it's nice to be
back where you play your cricket mainly.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, that is nice to be back. Something's never change
about Wellington. But yeah, it's lovely to be back in
amongst the boys for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Nick Greenwood, the form for Tighter worked well for him
as well. He was immediately called into the Firebirds for
a one day with Canterbury, scoring forty two and a
seventh wicket stand of eighty with Peter young husband as
Wellington just pipped the Red and Blacks by two wickets
at the base in reserve. But I ran the story, Jerry,
because I think it's a lovely cricket story that we
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don't often hear. You know, the warm tales about players,
and there's a lot of them up and down the country,
I'm sure who are happy to get off a plane
from overseas and play for their club and you know,
committed to the club is where it all started for these
guys and you know he by doing that is giving
something back to that club.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Oh it's a great story. Wards I mean you do
feel jet leg. It's a lot long from the where
he was to coming back to where we are, I
tell you, and to actually just turn up as soon
as you know, to almost caught it, almost caught, you know,
Chats's cab out to go straight out to tighter and
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play out there. That's that's a fantastic effort. And I'm
sure the boys would have loved to have seen him.
And maybe it got in through to a decent sleep
that night.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, I think he was struggling a little bit, but
in the end result it's just, you know, it's that
sort of commitment. I think that's important to crickets at
all levels. And you know he'sn and quietly. He wouldn't
do it unless he wanted to, and that to me
is the great thing. Well, it brings Hi an end
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of our program this week, Jerry another podcast. I think
we'll look at the women's cricket next week, and yep,
you'll probably will you be hiding around one of the
cricket grounds or are you waiting for the only eyes
of the West Indies.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
I will be doing the test matches, I think next
the tests. Okay, so I'll be watching along with you
to see how New Zealand get on against the West Indies.
They'll be an interesting challenge because they've got some decent bowlers.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yes, indeed, we don't even know what the side is
that's coming here. I'm not sure whether Shamah Jove is coming.
We'll get that team in due course. But they're playing
a series of T twenties first off. And while they're
doing that jury you can do your research quietly there
on the deck in the sunshine, in your your shorts,
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getting a little bit of a suntan on those legs
of yours. And and I'll go no further because obviously
you're embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yes, well that's right. I have to I have to
stay very still wards. Otherwise clouds, yeah, that's very small,
thin cloud can take out both the leagues.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I look forward to seeing if you're in a kiss
next thing there with your new something.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, we'll probably got.
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The Black Caps when the One Day Series was England
serious about this content. A top umpire explains the change
in rules for white ball cricket. Sophie Devine leads the
One Day circuit, but not how she wanted to, What
improvements to the White Friends need to make to compete,
And a surprise outcome for the Women's World Cup not
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so much India, the fact that they beat Australia to
get there had a lovely story from Club Cricket, sometimes
forgotten part of the domestic game. There is no surprise,
though Jeremy Cooney, that Kane Williamson has called time on
his T twenty career. Still we missed, of course, this
contribution to awful of the game has been amids but
(01:29):
he winds down his personal involvement. It seems to me
a practical decision. He's handling his career how he wants
to finish it.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I guess yeah, I think that's right. Once high there. Look,
Williams has been a great player in all their formats,
hasn't he And he's going to continue to be in
the two that he's decided that he would like to
participate in. I think he's said to probably twice that
(01:58):
he wants to try and get through to twenty twenty
seven when the next World One Day Cup is held
in South Africa and Zimbabwebia, and he hopes that he
can play a part in that. Well, that's great because
even in the one game that he played, I thought
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he made quite a difference personally. Not on the scoreboard maybe,
but beneath it all there are things going on. So
he's certainly in T twenty. He was a good T
twenty player at some stages of his career. Then he
found it more difficult to keep up with the scoring rate,
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I think because he preferred to try and see the
distance of the game and he wanted to make sure
that his side that he was playing for, whether it
was a franchise team or whether it was New Zealand side,
they didn't collapse in a heap, and so he became
more of that kind of backstopy kind of prevent collapse
(03:04):
type of player. And sometimes he got a bit caught,
didn't he when the other player as well, who he
is batting was couldn't score it a decent clip.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And I think that was proven in that World Cup
match against India, wasn't it when he and Taylor were
going slow and we thought there's no who will win
that game at Old Trafford. But in fact Taylor and
Williamson handled it perfectly, didn't they in that partnership they did.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That was the two days one day game. As I
record it was yeah, yeah, and certainly you're right, there's
always in a one day game a bit more time
than you think. You feel that you're a bit behind now,
but there's a sense that, yeah, but if we are
still here at the end, we can actually do something
about that and we can catch up. And that was
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the case there.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And you to look at his stats and I just
had a quick look at them this morning, quite incredible,
you know. He averages fifty four in test cricket two
hundred runs forty eight in One Day Internationals seven thousand,
two hundred runs. And his T twenty record isn't that
bad either. Ninety three games he's played five average is
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thirty three and a stroke made of one twenty three.
So you know, he's he's right up there in the
greats of the game, and he's and that's proven.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He certainly is. There's there's no doubt about his quality
right throughout all the different demands that each format brings,
you know, and he's he's been captain for a lot
of those ninety three games, hasn't he, So he's sort
of shepherded the side around as well. I think he
might feel that he's leaving at a time when the
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game is looking as far as New Zealand are concerned,
there are some other options and he probably feels that
they might score at a different rate the top order
if you throw you know, Ravendra in there as well
as our T twenties like the Seiphids and the Finalens
and people like that, who score that you know, faster rate.
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They might offer a bit more and they're younger, you know.
And of course he will still continue to play franchise
Cricket wads. He's thirty five and people will want him
still most definitely. And I mean he's not picking and
choosing the tournaments that he plays, but he has the right,
I think, to pick and choose what he plays for
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under contract. He has his own control of his own contract,
doesn't he. And he's decided that he'll opped out of
T twenty and that's fine and everybody will respect him
for that. We're not doing a eulogy on his career
at the moment. That will come further down the line,
but it's you know, it's just a point to mark
in terms of Cain Williams and giving up T twenties
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internationally wadds. You remember he could certainly score it a clip,
you know, some stages I remember in that final, that
T twenty World Final, World Cup Final at was it
Dubai against Australia. Yes, Now, how many did he get?
I think he must have got an eighty or a
ninety there And that was against stark On and New
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Zealand lost the toss, which was the key part of
that whole tournament. And it was very slow during the
day and grippy, and it turned and then of course
the team batting second got it when the jew came
down and it made it very much easier to score.
So winning the toss was a very important Even Aaron Finch,
who was the Ossie captain, said well, actually I won
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all the tosses and I played a big part in
winning that tournament because of it. But that was a
brilliant innings. That eighty odd or ninety that he got
in the first innings for New Zealand. He just took.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He took the Ossies apart, and we'll certainly be acknowledging
those over a long period of time because he is
a brilliant cricketer and what you're talking about there is
his ability to be innovative and also play strokes that
many other cricketers probably can't play. But we'll still see
him around and I'm sure we're looking forward to seeing
him when the Test Arena against the West Indies who
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have arrived in the country but we don't know what
their squad is yet. They arrived in New Zealand and
Auckland and they're ready to get into the contest against
New Zealand and t twenties and one day let's talk
about one days. I know there are those who don't
like the term dead rubber, but I'm afraid at Wellington
Stadium it was a dead rubber. It left me wondering
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what might have been had there been something on the match.
I don't wish to lessen the black Cats performance. They
were professional and organized in most areas and there was
that little hiccup at the end, but the quality of
Fuchs and Tickner got them through when they required the
lower order to finish off the victory. Let's just have
an assessment of the one day series from England coach
(07:57):
Brenda McCallum.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Obviously pretty disappointing. You know when you come over here
with high hopes and then you know that taking on
a very good New Zealand team in their own conditions
is going to be difficult.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We expected more, but.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Credit to New Zealand, I thought they outplayed us in
all three games. We fought hard at certain times, but
we didn't get enough runs and unfortunately we didn't give
our bowls enough enough to bowl that. But you know,
we'll walk away with some lessons and make sure that
we try and improve on some of those areas. Those
areas probably around adapting to conditions a bit quicker. I
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think Daryn Mitch was a great example of what to
do in tricky conditions. I thought he laid the ball
off when he wanted to, and he attacked when he
needed to, and I thought his tempo of how he
played in tricky conditions was a great example of for
us how we can improve in the one day format.
I think in Test Krigg in T twenty, I think
we've got our team plate and we understand how to play,
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but in one day credit we're still searching a little
bit for that and we've got to We've got to
improve on that pretty quickly. We've got some talented players,
but unfortunately our performances at the moment in this form
of the game aren't quite up to scratch and we
need to rectify that.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
A fair assessment I think then from McCollum of his
own team, they were well short. Having said that, I
have to say answer the personal view, Jerry. I believe
that England squad was here on holiday, a golfing trip
with a little bit of cricket. They lost three tosses,
but they're not the first side to lose tosses and
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have to face that issue. The pictures, yes, may have
been demanding, but doesn't that require sides to adjust their
game to suit. The much vaunted bass ball approach might
suit on State Highway one just south of Hunterville. Pictures
like that, But the game is all about being able
to adapt conditions, and England didn't. Am I being unfair?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, you're right about not adapting and not being quite well.
They seemed sucked in by their own mantra in a way.
Now all they misunderstand it because I thought there was
a clear differential between the way that New Zealand play
and the best sides have always played. Actually, that's what's
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in front of them. There's what you were just saying, really,
that the conditions and how you then change and adapt
and be flexible about that. You know, you see the
dangerous bowlers off, You get your boundaries and you score
runs in between those boundaries to keep it going. You
start your innings properly, you know, and you try to
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have wickets when the last ten overs come through. England
didn't get to the last ten overs. I think they
got a couple of balls in the last match, but
other than that, they were plenty of overs short and
there were so many wickets down by the tenths over
so in the first power play they lost eleven wickets
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over three games. In that first power play New zeally
had lost four. So the you know, the wickets, you know,
gave the bowlers a bit of help, man. I mean
they England Wads are a talented side and they probably
did have fun, but it wouldn't have been on the fields.
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And they all know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You know, this is a this is a side that
if McCullum and et al who picked the teams, if
they feel it, they'll make changes. Look what they did
with Anderson. Look how they bring other players in just
out from out of the cold, so all the players
will know that if they're not scoring, they got a
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talented top six. You can't deny that they just played
really poorly and made different and bad choices. They had
a world class bowler and a couple of the games
in Archer. They've got a good legie. They had a
left armor who could swing it. Yeah, they really weren't
missing a lot. If you went through that those England
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players over in England, you wouldn't change that side too much.
You might throw Will Jackson, he might throw Phil Saltan
there at the top. But that's it wasn't a bad side.
They played badly and New Zealand showed I think that,
you know, we may not be the best side in
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the world, but we are one of the smarter ones.
We sought things out very quickly. I mean Hamilton and
I was at that game. We won that match because
we were one for thirty at the end of ten
overs and we had taken the heat of Joffra Archer
out basically of the game, and instead of being four down,
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we were one down and we had all those wickets
left and then we caught up. We've got players who
can do that, like through Ravendra and so on, who
can catch up. And Mitchell played played solidly right throughout
the tournament. So yeah, where did that? The larger question
for me is what will the Aussies be thinking? Will
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they be thinking these English batsmen can't handle a moving ball,
they don't know where their stumps are and so that
will be because that's what it looked like to me.
And the winning margins was thirteen overs, seventeen overs and
five overs. I mean they are massive, they are massive.
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Seventeen overs is over one hundred runs.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, they were certainly beaten. Yeah, it'd be interesting to
see what an impact it does have on the ashes.
I mean, a totally different form of the game and
I think there'll be mentally attuned when they get to that.
But from a New Zealand point of view, you talk
about Mitchell there, I thought he was quite outstanding. It
just shows the value of a solid, smart thinking cricketer
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coming in in the middle of the new order in
these games. I thought he was quite outstanding. Really when
you look at it. He was the top run scorer,
and you know you've got Ravender and you've got other players,
but to Mitchell, to me, was brilliant.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He did exactly what we've been saying. He played what
was in front of him, and he knew that he
had overs up his sleeve. At the end of the
innings that England had given to New Zealand, it was
almost as if they were playing a sixty over game.
New Zealand, they have sixty overs to get there get
the thirty odd that England had used up. So I
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mean he was smart, wasn't he. The first innings at Toweronga,
he had to work quite hard. It wasn't a really
flowing fluid kind of innings, but it showed in Hamilton.
He came out immediately and started hitting back over the
bowler's head. We know that's his signature shot and we
know that he's in good touch when he starts playing that,
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and then he started showing as some of the other
shots as well. So Young struggled. Ravendra was reckless at
Tawonga and then played very well when Williamson was there
batting with him, And I want to just underline that
gently as well for people to think about Mitchell. We've
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mentioned Latham was a wee bit mixed. Sentner's timing the
ball out of his skin, isn't he? I believe he's
just hitting the ball very cleanly. We are aside Wadds.
We're halfway in this, you know, between the World Cup cycles.
Twenty three was the last one, twenty seven is the next.
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We're here, we are now most of these players will
be available. The oldest Mitchell will be Mitchell, and Comy
will be thirty six, Bracel will be thirty six to
thirty seven, and Williamson will be thirty seven. Otherwise, you know,
the Santana's, the Latham's, the Henry's will be thirty five
and then you go down from there down to folks
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at twenty five, and that's adding two years on to
their current ages when they will be there for the
World Cup. So most of these players and I don't
think thirty seven is too old nowadays. I mean, right,
Sharma played the other day in an ODEI and got runs,
didn't he an Aussie eight?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And Jimmy Anderson's that's brightly forty one, isn't he? Yeah, yes,
I don't know that I'd want to be doing all
that at forty one. Just on off the bowlers, even
even with the resources tested with injuries and players out Jamison,
Henry O'Rourke, et cetera, the bowlers came up superbly. I thought,
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duffy folks And Tikner, who wouldn't even in the original squad,
came in a couple of fourths and you know, he's
an interesting character. Tickner is a bowl You don't think
he's going to deliver for you, but boy he fronts.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I think he's changed was I think he's changed as
a bowler. I think the couple of years at Derby
have he bowls a different length. Now he works and
operates from bringing a batsman forward, he can still drag
it down, you know, and test you on the bounce.
But I thought he bowled smartly and he nipped it about.
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But maybe the wickets helped him a little bit. But
you know, he added things, didn't here. What a good
story it is, Yes, you know the difficulties that he
has had personally, I think it's a beauty, isn't it.
And then to get the runs at the end with
folks to ease New Zealander. That's what you like to
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see eight and nine starting to just get twenty runs
when they matter. I liked seeing those sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And he was against a bowling attack that was pretty useful.
Rashid had come in. He was the man who was
supposed to clean up the tail, wasn't he raiding cars?
And Overton again is another one who was unheralded in
terms of his performances. But they did it against a
pretty good bowling attack and that was the creditable thing
from their point of view.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh yeah, And you can believe that England would be
wanting to try and salvage something out of it, wouldn't they. Yes,
And the pitch certainly gave them some you know, all
the bowl of some assistance. So yeah, no, it was
New Zealand should feel pretty pleased about that and I
hope they keep that going through the white bull stuff
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against the West Indies.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
The current series between the Black Aps and England has
seen some changes to the laws that apply to white
ball cricket. Laws that might not be readily evident, although
the one that seems more contentious than any others is
for one of a better term, the white ball wide
and I think it's still going to create some controversy
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to explain it and other changes. Joined by one of
our top umpires whose job it is to adjudicate the laws,
Wayne Nights. He's currently in Australia for the series with India,
which is an important exercise for a New Zealand umpire way.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Yeah, it's a change of environment, change of teams and yeah,
it just makes everything just that bit more challenging. I
guess for us it.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Was my intro.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Right, there's been modifications to the laws and the one,
as I said, that seems to be more contentious for
the fans both at the ground and on television is
the wide and that has been adjusted for white ball cricket.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yes, so people watching will notice that there's a new
what we call a guideline, and I want to make
sure that people understand it's not a hard fixed line.
It's a guideline and it does move. But they'll notice
where a little white line beside the stumps used to
determine where protected areas on the pitch where players can't run,
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they've now extended all the way down to the front
to pop increase and that's a guideline for leag side wides.
Now for the umpires to judge.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The leag side one is probably the one that does
create a comment. How do you judge what is a
leag side wide? Is the fact of consistency important there
in your decision making?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Well, of course any umpire wants to be as consistent
as possible on anything they do. But in terms of
the leag side wide, what used to happen is we
had sort of an unwreck ANDed rule. If you like,
where the football passed on an imaginary fourth stup line
and the batter's moved across and it would have fit
the batter, then the bowl will get the benefit of
that doubt, and it won't be a wide. What they've
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done is this is a three month trial by the
way for the leg side wides, so it may or
may not be kept. But at the moment what they've done,
as I've done that protectular so one foot outside from
the middle stump creates that little bit of more leeway.
I guess for the bowler. There's a couple of things
that people probably want to would probably want to know
when they're watching. First of all, is that it's where
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the ball joins the front crease or the popping crease.
So from a depth perception of candle, little tricky for
an umpire to determine that, especially the ball is swinging,
but that's where it's determined. So suddenly that can look
like it's gone wrong way down the leg side. If
it's inside that that new wide guideline on the leg side,
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at the point where it goes through the popping crease,
it shouldn't be called the wide. The next point, and
this makes it even more difficult for empires, is that
this is determined by where the batter is standing at
the point of a realisa from the bowler. So at
the point of release. If the batter is either heel
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of his foot if you like, or her foot is
outside that line, that line has now moved to that point.
So if a batter is standing quite well outside leg
stump and then moves across that leg side, guideline has
now moved further out to where that bats heel was.
So it's a little bit more complicated than just a
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fixed line in that sense. If everything is inside that line,
then the line is fixed. It's a little bit like
the off side, so we judge it where it batters toes.
Anything outside the off stump, that off side guideline moves accordingly.
So and once again it's at the point of delivery.
So if a batter and moves around the crease pre delivery,
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it doesn't make any difference to us. It's at the
point of delivery.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay. The other thing too is if a plan does
go world wide of the off stump, where does the
wide line come then, Because it could go in terms
of the measurements off the cut portion of the pitch
or couldn't it does that the law about that still.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Apply absolutely, so it still has to land on the pitch.
Anything that lands off the pitch and that's actually a
new one. It's a sort of a tweet to the
ICC playing conditions anyway, where with TV umpires, if a
ball has patched off the pitch, or we think it
may have, we can go and get a checked by
the TV umpire, whereas before until very recently, we couldn't
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do that, which caused problems because the bowler can get
a new way and you just you don't see it,
but you can't go up to check it. So coming
back to the wideline, the wide, Yes, so the return
crease or those side creases that you see on the
edge of the pitch, if a ball passes outside those
on or outside those, even though it batter moves all
the way across, it's still going to be called white.
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So it has to be within those, within those parameters.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The one that I feel simply off, and this is
a personal observation, is for the off spinner, pitching outside
off stump, spinning sharply down leg side gets called wide,
And that.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
To me.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
A personal view, and I can't get your personal view,
and that you have to apply the laws. I find
that hard to accept from a bottle's point of view.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah, and I would probably tend to agree with you.
To be honest, they can be they can be punished
for actually turning the ball too hard, But that's where
I think the new guideline will expt And the chat
with some of the players that I've had is that
they think it's going to help the spin bottles more
than the past bowls for it pretty much exactly what
you've just said. So if they do turn it too much,
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it goes past the better, but it's still inside that
new white guideline. It won't be called whereas in the
past it would have been.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Does this apply to other than international cricket, like domestic cricket,
of these same laws applying.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
No, So it's a playing condition. It's not a law right,
So laws are obviously determined the overriding like an mu
if you like. And playing conditions are a competition by
competition set of rules that either add to or replace laws.
So this is a playing condition. So for example, I
know in New Zealand domestic cricket it's not being applied.
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It's a three month trial purely set up by the ICC.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Another new playing condition is the changing of the ball
after what at the end of the thirty fourth over, Well,
you don't change the ball, You just then use one
of the two balls that have been used. Who decides that.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
The field and captain. So for example, the other day,
I've only had a I've only done one ad isis
to change the other day in Sydney. It was very
very quick. You just show the captain two balls and
they pick one pretty quick. It's pretty easy process. And
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I think what it does. It just, yeah, brings a
bat is into the game in the back end maybe
a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah. The other thing too, is what happens if that
ball is lost? Saying the fortieth over, do you go
back to the other ball that has been used in
that case?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Okay, So for all game games, we have a box
of used balls of varying degree of wear and tear.
That ball does go into that box. It doesn't have
to be the one that gets replaced, but it goes
into that box with the other balls, and it's up
to the umpires. If a ball does get lost, it's
up to the umpires to decide the closest the closest
match at that time.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Have you had much reaction from the players about the
changes and their understanding of the changes.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yep, there's been. There's been quite a few questions asked,
not just by players but by commentators like yourself and
others involved. And it's I think it's fast. I think
it's brilliant that we're doing this chat to clarify a
few things, because sometimes public either miss informed or uninformed,
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and then all of a sudden, the player or a
numpire doesn't call a leg side why that would have
in the past. They're wondering, they're left wondering why.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So also, there's been a change to the outfield catch
now I think they call it. Do they call it
bunny hop or something that when you when you take
a catch over the boundary throat of the air, get
back into the field of playing catch. It is that?
Is that what has been changed?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, So if you dive deep into this, it's actually
quite complicated. But for a single single field of catch,
if you like, it's quite straightforward. So your terminology is
correct in terms of a relaxed terminology called a bunny hop.
So what they want to prevent as an example, and
it's hard without any videos or photos. But as for that,
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what hasn't hasn't changed is that the first point of
contact has to be from inside the field play, so
you can't leave the field of the play and then
jump up and knock the ball back and play. That
was never buch You had to start inside the field
to play, throw the ball up. But what used to
what was available to plays was they could throw the
ball up, leave the field to play, then jump up,
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throw the ball up in the air while they're not grounded,
land back outside the field of the play, and then
run in and catch it and then land inside of
the field of play. And they had unlimited what you
call bunny hops outside of the field to play, So
as long as you went ground at the time you're
touching the ball, you could just keep going. So this
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new glory has been brought in to circumnavigate that. So
you basically get one chance of touching it outside of
the field of play. The next time you touch the ball,
you have to land back in the field to play
to prevent that bunny hop situation.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
As an umpire, and you've been doing top level umpiring
for an number of years and you've got a fair
amount of experience, changes like this, do they tax you
a little bit in terms of adjudicating on decisions. Do
you have to think a little bit more clearly before
you go out to a game until you get used
to the changes?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Ah?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yes, And also when you're making decisions like, for example,
the new legs sidewide playing adition that's come in, you
certainly have another second or two to think about it,
just to make sure you just don't react like you
normally would bring yourself back and flying to think Okay,
that's there or not there or wherever. And I think
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that from an on point point of view, we've certainly discussed.
It's only been a few games so far, but it
does make it more challenging for us because instead of
really just focusing on that off sideline, we now have
to focus on a leg sideline as well. And those lines,
as I say that, guidelines they move all the time,
so that in particular has definitely been more challenging for us.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Can you take an appeal from a player if they
don't like your decision in terms of going back and
having a look at the television if they think you've
been either unfair or perhaps a little bit too generous
or is that it? Do you you get an umpire's
review for Catches Don't you for clean catches if they've
been at ground level. Is there any challenge open to
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players on those other issues.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
In the IPI there are? Yes. They've got their own
set of playing additions which allow players to review wides
whether a call or not called. Other than that the
standards DRS or decision review system with the ICC they
can they can't review wides, but they can review, for example,
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a runout or a stumping as well, but should not
not many people would know. But if they think they've
been hard done by by a runout, they are I'm
allowed to review it within fifteen seconds. So it's not
just LW's and courts, which is primarily the review what
their view systems for.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Generally with runouts and stumpings, the umpires go up for
confirmation anyway, don't they.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Yeah, we do have a chat about under use and
overuse of technology. If the technology is there, it's always
a good idea to use it. Every now and then you
will get somebody who doesn't slide their back properly with
a runout of something like that or stumping where a
wacker keepers got their gloves in front of the stumps
where they're not allowed to it becomes a noble, So
all of a sudden you've got a situation that it's
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not out and a noble and a free hit. So
it changes pretty rapidly from one side to the other.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, so you're in Australia. What you're doing in the
India Australia series, yep.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
So I was bort over. I umpired the last of
the odio's in Sydney a few days ago, and then
today we've got a first of the T twenties and
camera and then there's the second T twenties in Melbourne
on Friday night, and then yeah, I heap that came.
After that, we've got a serious of quist Dundy starting
a few days after. Get home.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Enjoy it still, I love it.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah, as a fellow one part of mine once said,
it beats working for a living, so yeah, it's certainly challenging.
It's you know, you can make a living from it,
but only unfortunately, only very few people can. So I'm
very fortunate and lucky and that that I am in
a position where I can do it absolutely all.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Right, Well, we look forward to seeing you back home
and or before I go. There are no other changes
to the laws that I should have been talking about
that are relevant to watching, either on television or at
the ground.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
There's a few minor ones, but I could probably go
on for another hour on all those and I don't
on board anyone, so not relevant to the viewer. I
don't think that I can think of.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's great, all right. We look forward to seeing you
back here in New Zealand and I'm sure you'll have
a hand in the short form games anyway for the
West Indies series and the test match umpires come in
from overseas, don't they.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yep, that's right. We have one home umpire for test
matches as a reserve umpire for those Test matches. But
you know we're involved all the white Balls series, so looking.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Forward to plenty of cricket guard. Thanks very much for
your time and we'll see you back here in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Thanks Brian Pleasure, thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Interesting comments from Wayne Nights during not much what we
can add to that, but there will be contentious issues
that come up and that we can discuss at odd
times and be nice to have Wayne Nights back talking
with us because it's good to hear rather than our
vision of the laws. How they apply the laws and
it you know, it's a tough job. I suppose the
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amount of pressure that the umpires are under yep.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And I think it's already happened. Joe Roots dismissal and
Hamilton he was very much angered by the decisions two
balls prior to edging down the leg side because he
decided he had to go over it because he wasn't
going to get that wide call one of the other parts.
So I think he might have quietly or at least
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put his bat down in the changing room slightly harder.
And so, yeah, the only the interesting thing I sought
from Wayne was I didn't realize that that line, that
new line that they've put in is movable depending on
where the batsmen takes up their stance. Yeah, so that's
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an interesting point, isn't it. So that's got to be
remembered as well. But how batsmen adjust to this that
will be the next interesting thing. Do they have to
play more on the leg side on the front foot
with Waddle and Cody?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
The Women's World Cup has come to an end. No
surprise that India beat South Africa. The surprise to me
was that they beat Australia to get there and poor
ord Alyssa Heay, she dropped a couple of key catchers
that meant they fell out of the chance of getting
another World Cup to their run name. But as I
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said in two for Sapey Divine Jerry, her career didn't
end as she would have liked it. But that lost
to England at the Woman's World Cup closed the one
day career and the White Fans bowed out of the Cup,
finishing eighth. It wasn't due to Divine's performance at the tournament.
She was outstanding. They got your two hundred and eighty
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nine runs at fifty seven top score of one hundred
and twelve. She was fifth on the list of run getters.
She's had a remarkable career. Teammates and opponents alike have
been glowing in their praise for her commitment and contribution
to the game, lifting as were one of the greats
of the women's game. And I think that's a fair point.
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First played Jerry two thousand and six, nineteen years at
the top level, and while she's giving up one days,
she sells teems to want to play tea twenty. What
a hell of a career she's had.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Beca isn't it an incredible longevity in the game. Yeah,
it's I didn't realize actually she I mean, she's obviously
been one of the top women's players for a long
time and the runs because of that. You know, there's
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a lot of more pressure on you, isn't there. It
was like Richard Hadley in a way that there's always
expectation on him to actually perform well and also on
Sophie Thought and the pressure just to constantly score is
heaped on you every match of your play and it's
a bit unrealistic really. But she started as a quick bowler.
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I believe that. Is that what's usual reared at all?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, she was mainly she was mainly a bowler from
the outset and developed.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Area and better number eleven.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, well she was. She was certainly down the order,
but I mean she was sort of seventeen or eighteen
years of age too at that stage, so you don't
slot into the top level. Even Amelia cur had to
wait then she to get included. But you just have
a look at her stats. One hundred and fifty nine matches,
four two hundred run she's averaged thirty two in odiis
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nine hundred's there and t twenty career abuting one hundred
and forty six games, top score of one hundred and five,
three thousand runs and average of twenty eight to strike
rate of one hundred and twenty. I mean all those
stats just to add to what New Zealand's achieved at
times in the women's game, and she certainly hasn't let
(38:16):
them down by her performance. There are a few things
I think that New Zealand Cricket has to address in
terms of the women's game, but finding a replacement for
a Sophie Devine is not going to be the easiest
question they have to answer, is it.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
No, not at all. But I mean I will remember
her as an easy power hitter with the ability to
potentially alter the balance of matches. I mean, she had
such a natural hand eye coordination, maybe through her early
hockey interest playing see the women's hockey and Wellington at
(38:51):
aged fourteen heavens above and then so she's obviously a
naturally strong person and an athlete hitting down the ground
and to the leg side. You're right about the nineteen
years that's I mean, she's witnessed and played through lots
of change, hasn't the amateur days almost, you know, and
(39:15):
then she's clearly liked the game and had a desire
to want to improve and get better with it, and
with that instinctive hitting that she has, and she would
have been there at the start of the T twenty
format that you just mentioned one hundred and forty six
that she played. It was a good piece of timing
(39:36):
for her, another good piece of timing, and you know,
the franchises around the world were naturally attracted to her.
You know, she played three for three teams in Australia
and four teams in England. She played in the West
Indies is she's in the Women's IPL But right through
it all, I've always had the impression because I don't
(39:57):
know Sophie and I've never spoken to her, she was
a proud New Zealander that always kind of came across
in her comments, and you know it meant a lot
that she was representing us, and you know, sport was
through Sport always throws you lots of challenges and you know,
(40:19):
you have good and lots of good days, and inevitably
she'll look back sometime and she'll find those good and
bad memories. But I think probably it'll be the teammates
and those times in the dressing rooms and those discussions
and those conversations that she'll remember, you know. And I
mean she's had her challenges, hasn't she. She's a Type
(40:41):
one diabetic, Yeah, so you would know more about and
what that means on playing days.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh yeah, I mean that's tough. I mean that can
be mentally draining, but also physically draining as well, particularly
when you're you know, having to go through a long
time at the crease, the amount of perspiration and the
need to keep your blood sugar levels balanced. I mean
(41:09):
that in itself, playing cricket very very difficult, and she's
handled it well and the figures prove it.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
And I mean also she has addressed the importance of
mental issues in the game.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yes. I think that's something many of the women are
dealing with at the moment too, aren't they, and looking
to settle themselves into the professional era and the demands
on the mental approach.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yep, so played a lot, witnessed a lot, given a
lot and missed on the field. Now and it's now
up to her, I guess if she wants to stay
in the game and make an impact in some other
way if she wants to, because there's lots to do
in New Zealand women's cricket. As you were just pointing
out a moment ago, if we look at this last tournament,
(42:00):
which has been pretty tough, they didn't quite play to
the level that we've seen them play, and then there
was a little bit of a bit of ill luck
with the rained out matches and so on. But you know,
raising the structure of our play in New Zealand really
important over the next five ten years.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
It's not often that the club events gained attention, but
finally this week one player in the Wellington Club competition
deserved to have his efforts acknowledged in the Wellington Domestic
Club T twenty. Nick Greenwood has been playing the off
season for Jersey in the Channel Islands, both club and
ICC events. Last weekend he displayed club commitment, having just
(42:46):
returned to Wellington from his overseas assignment. Nick tell us
the story about your return to playing for your club tighter.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yes, I flew back from Jersey on Saturday morning four am,
going to Auckland, Sad picking up from Wines and the airports.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
At m of the morning.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I went home, grabbing my kid together, went down and
washed the first game in the morning where Tighter beat Aberhart,
which meant they qualified for the semi final, and they
asked if I wanted to play, and I said, yeah,
of course. So I rocked up in the afternoon and
I actually didn't have to do much. My brother actually
did all the scoring. I came at the end and
(43:27):
then the game's pros done and then went to the
final on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
And you played a part in that because you bowled
towards the end. It probably the most difficult time.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Yeah, yeah, bowl the last two hours. They kept catch
some kindly game in the ball we got across the line.
So it was awso performance from the boys. But you know,
I think the best way to get over your jet
legs sometimes just get on it and play some cricket
or stay on the sun and want.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Did it affect you mentally? Did you sort of wonder
what you're doing or was it just something that you
do naturally.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I can't say Saturday Afternoon is my best performance career club,
but it was just good to be back and on
the boys and help me keep me away to be honest,
so I probably wasn't at my best, but yeah, good
to be.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Could be back in Jersey for well half of you
about six months and playing for Jersey. Firstly, you qualify
by birth. Does that discount you from playing for New
Zealand if you ever.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Get the opportunity, no duty of being associate nation. I
can play for still both for New Zealand. I just
wouldn't be able to go back if I ever played
for I wouldn't be able to go back and play
for Jersey.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah right, And what's it like Jersey? It seems it
seems strange. What sort of cricket do they have over there?
How how strong is it?
Speaker 4 (44:38):
We have a very limited club cricket scene, only four teams,
but internationally we've managed to compete very well over the
past or like five years since I've been playing. We
almost qualify for a workout this year. That's thee our
net run rate after beating Scotland probably our biggest he
will win. So you know, it's a great experience playing
(44:59):
those high level teams like the Netherlands and Scotland and whatnot,
and having those experiences with the goal of hopefully going
to work up one.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Day and you spend most of your time in Jersey
because I mean you closer to the French coast to
the English coast. But you know, there must be a
fair bit of money you spent traveling around to play
in these tournaments or is that paid for by the board?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
H Jersey Cricket fund all the travel for the boys,
which is great, but obviously no one, no one gets
paid by Jersey Cricket. It's all, you know, amateur sports,
so for us competing against professionals most of the time,
but they pay for my travel, food, that sort of stuff,
so that's all looked after.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Can you reflect on what it's done for your game
over the last six months.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
I mean, having somewhere to go in the winter to
play cricket only benefits you. And to play at like
such a high level against you know, international teams is
only only beneficial for my cricket. So I'm very thankful
for them for what they do and they look after
me very well.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, I see, you've got a couple of hundreds in
the in various games. I had to look at some
of the school boarders you've got. You've got the ton.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, I got one hundred this summer in the
fifty over walk up qualifiers, so we've got one more
out of that in Qatar next year and then hopefully
we go into League two qualifiers, which would be nice.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
So you're going back, Ah.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
Yeah, there's a plan. Obviously, you have to weigh out
and see what happens in terms of the scheduling. I'm
still a little bit up in their Hopefully it doesn't
clash with Wellington summer too much, which I've been lucky
so far.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
But do you you play as an all rounder? Are
you an all rounder? Do you consider yourself an all rounder?
Or are you betsmany balls?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
I used to be definitely just more of a vetsman,
but I think we've the way the teams change. And
to a credit to Shane Jurgenson, he and she got
me bowling and probably gave me a little bit of
kick up the ass last year and told me to
work my bowling. And then it's a bit more and
I got a few over Zim for Wellington and since
then I bought a lot more for Jersey as well.
So I'd like to say still pending on the all
(46:59):
round of status, but yeah, definitely keen to keep going
with it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're still getting your land leagues back after coming back
from Jersey looking out at the base because the covers
are on at the moment. But it's nice to be
back where you play your cricket mainly.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah, that is nice to be back. Something's never change
about Wellington. But yeah, it's lovely to be back in
amongst the boys for sure.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Nick Greenwood, the form for Tighter worked well for him
as well. He was immediately called into the Firebirds for
a one day with Canterbury, scoring forty two and a
seventh wicket stand of eighty with Peter young husband as
Wellington just pipped the Red and Blacks by two wickets
at the base in reserve. But I ran the story, Jerry,
because I think it's a lovely cricket story that we
(47:41):
don't often hear. You know, the warm tales about players,
and there's a lot of them up and down the country,
I'm sure who are happy to get off a plane
from overseas and play for their club and you know,
committed to the club is where it all started for these
guys and you know he by doing that is giving
something back to that club.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Oh it's a great story. Wards I mean you do
feel jet leg. It's a lot long from the where
he was to coming back to where we are, I
tell you, and to actually just turn up as soon
as you know, to almost caught it, almost caught, you know,
Chats's cab out to go straight out to tighter and
(48:24):
play out there. That's that's a fantastic effort. And I'm
sure the boys would have loved to have seen him.
And maybe it got in through to a decent sleep
that night.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, I think he was struggling a little bit, but
in the end result it's just, you know, it's that
sort of commitment. I think that's important to crickets at
all levels. And you know he'sn and quietly. He wouldn't
do it unless he wanted to, and that to me
is the great thing. Well, it brings Hi an end
(48:55):
of our program this week, Jerry another podcast. I think
we'll look at the women's cricket next week, and yep,
you'll probably will you be hiding around one of the
cricket grounds or are you waiting for the only eyes
of the West Indies.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
I will be doing the test matches, I think next
the tests. Okay, so I'll be watching along with you
to see how New Zealand get on against the West Indies.
They'll be an interesting challenge because they've got some decent bowlers.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yes, indeed, we don't even know what the side is
that's coming here. I'm not sure whether Shamah Jove is coming.
We'll get that team in due course. But they're playing
a series of T twenties first off. And while they're
doing that jury you can do your research quietly there
on the deck in the sunshine, in your your shorts,
(49:49):
getting a little bit of a suntan on those legs
of yours. And and I'll go no further because obviously
you're embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yes, well that's right. I have to I have to
stay very still wards. Otherwise clouds, yeah, that's very small,
thin cloud can take out both the leagues.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I look forward to seeing if you're in a kiss
next thing there with your new something.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, we'll probably got.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
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