June 23, 2024 • 6 mins
Last week, Stace & Charlie caught up with Michael Jonathan & Paku Fernandez from the new movie Ka Whawhai Tonu, in cinemas this Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Flavor Podcast Network, The Flavor Breakfast Podcast with Stace,
Azara and Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
A really exciting epic new release, a new Zealand feature
film called We Have One of the Starts Back Open
and there's no May had Tom I and Mike Jonathan
the ring I too, who the director they're not. It
is an epic epic story, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Buck?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Oh? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's about Darco, which Charlie you were just saying. I
mean we should all know about but do we?
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Yeah? Like I said to Stace off Air, is that
this is our history and I think this is what
needs to be taught in schools and it's about time
that we bring history to life, you know through movies,
theater and whatnot. You know, so you guys are doing
a great job.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What did it take Mike to get to our screens? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Eight years of hard slog eight years of partnership without
UIF and and just making sure that they that they
trust me with the story. But you know, you know
a lot of people just go in there and they
talked to final and they want to take in pay
for that information. I wanted to partner and bring them
along for the ride, so that that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It was lucky for you, Packer because you were You're
barely born eight years ago, so it's good that it
took away Yla.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, well I have been like, oh, like.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, maybe a little bit. Yeah, but then how did
this come about for you to have this huge role?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah? I just love being Hockey in the film, and yeah,
I love doing like stunts and stuff, and so this
was really cool for me to be on the film.
And yeah, I just love working with three big stars
of old ted Or like Cliff Curtis Morrison, Dams Smith,
and yeah, it was a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did you learn things from them?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Actually, yeah, I learned a lot just watching timy little
Morrison and how calm he is, Like like it looked
like he's thinking, but like Mike said, he's probably just
trying to get his lines in there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And it's definitely remember.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Just being calm about it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, that's stillness. Actually's amazing at that too. So Mike,
what were you looking for in your young actors like Pa.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Well, the main boys are park a half cast boy,
and I needed someone that could tell a story with
the eyes and look at those eyes.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
You know, and it's all about.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Gestures, and so gesturing when you're when you're actor, and
that's that's part of your superpower and who's got it
and having your mind see it and just kind of
radiating what I needed, meant that I need.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
To script some of the script. Sorry, tomorrow, script the script.
Just because he just did it with his with his eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I felt emotional just looking at the trailer. So when
we go in to watch, what should we prepare ourselves for?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Mike, Oh, you have to take some tissues most definitely.
It's it's a it's a heavy film. I can see that,
and you're going to go on a bit of a
ride and it's.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Full of action.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
It's it will challenge your senses and whatever you come
out at the end is.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Going to be all good with me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, like you said, Telly, at least you've engaged with something.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I think one thing that I wanted to ask is
that you know, when you're going into like directing these
films and you know you've got a whole ewie behind you,
do you is it always hard? Like you know when
you're obviously directing the film that you're mindful of what
everyone else in the Ewie is thinking as well, now
you should take that out, bro, Now put this in.
(03:42):
Do this like the input or is that just your own.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
You have those conversations right up front, because you know
all those Hapou and Faro, they all want their topnother
be the man or, and so you just go, well,
it's not actually about them, and so we're going to
have this kind of fictional narrative that's going to drive
our story and then everything around it. We're gonna put
your tupe on her here and there, and they're gonna
be standing in behind of there. We all the time
(04:06):
that they're all there, and I'll reveal that one day.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
There.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
We money put a pretty amazing for Tim Wader to
play there.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
We write, man, that guy is a superstart's fifty years
of Tim Wader Morrison as an actor in Altor and
in the world, and he's absolutely amazing in it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And he's he's a bit of a dick to you.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Just remember how I'm saying to me, you know, because
we are really good friends and we can talk like that
to each other.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And he got the script and it's like, I don't understand,
I don't understand. I don't understand Mike, Mike, who's ready
this stuff?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Bring him up and said, no, you're gonna leave it.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
What you're gonna do is read the other people's lines,
and you know, because he's he's such a start. As
soon as I gave him that moment before that, that
this mean popolo scene that started our film, he just
I saw the light going going on and he turned
into this stoic and he is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He did also tell me that every time you have
filmed an audition for him, he didn't get the role,
but when your wife Chinzi dead, then he got the role.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
In terms of the action scenes, are we going to
get amazing action?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's going to be like
oh I was about the spoiler's.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, just watch yoursel Yeah, he does his own stunts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That was also I can see the scars.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, true, it was. It was lovely doing stunts with
all like all my peers and just like like explosions
and stuff and yeah, just's action packful.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's action packed and it's really important. What a beautiful
time to release it to Matadiki so that the twenty
six officiallyday just also we've got Maiki long week to
be able to celebrate it as well. So Giner Max
because it's actually really important that we support New Zealand
movies like this, and it's also all of our cord
(06:08):
it also then O then incopable. It's really important that
you've given it such important respects. So record and let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Come up, I don't, let's go.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Thanks for listening to the Flavor Breakfast podcast. Catch a
new app here tomorrow, or listen live every weekday from
Sex
It's the Flavor Podcast Network, The Flavor Breakfast Podcast with Stace,
Azara and Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
A really exciting epic new release, a new Zealand feature
film called We Have One of the Starts Back Open
and there's no May had Tom I and Mike Jonathan
the ring I too, who the director they're not. It
is an epic epic story, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Buck?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Oh? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's about Darco, which Charlie you were just saying. I
mean we should all know about but do we?
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Yeah? Like I said to Stace off Air, is that
this is our history and I think this is what
needs to be taught in schools and it's about time
that we bring history to life, you know through movies,
theater and whatnot. You know, so you guys are doing
a great job.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What did it take Mike to get to our screens? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Eight years of hard slog eight years of partnership without
UIF and and just making sure that they that they
trust me with the story. But you know, you know
a lot of people just go in there and they
talked to final and they want to take in pay
for that information. I wanted to partner and bring them
along for the ride, so that that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It was lucky for you, Packer because you were You're
barely born eight years ago, so it's good that it
took away Yla.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, well I have been like, oh, like.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, maybe a little bit. Yeah, but then how did
this come about for you to have this huge role?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah? I just love being Hockey in the film, and yeah,
I love doing like stunts and stuff, and so this
was really cool for me to be on the film.
And yeah, I just love working with three big stars
of old ted Or like Cliff Curtis Morrison, Dams Smith,
and yeah, it was a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did you learn things from them?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Actually, yeah, I learned a lot just watching timy little
Morrison and how calm he is, Like like it looked
like he's thinking, but like Mike said, he's probably just
trying to get his lines in there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And it's definitely remember.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Just being calm about it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, that's stillness. Actually's amazing at that too. So Mike,
what were you looking for in your young actors like Pa.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Well, the main boys are park a half cast boy,
and I needed someone that could tell a story with
the eyes and look at those eyes.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
You know, and it's all about.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Gestures, and so gesturing when you're when you're actor, and
that's that's part of your superpower and who's got it
and having your mind see it and just kind of
radiating what I needed, meant that I need.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
To script some of the script. Sorry, tomorrow, script the script.
Just because he just did it with his with his eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I felt emotional just looking at the trailer. So when
we go in to watch, what should we prepare ourselves for?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Mike, Oh, you have to take some tissues most definitely.
It's it's a it's a heavy film. I can see that,
and you're going to go on a bit of a
ride and it's.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Full of action.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
It's it will challenge your senses and whatever you come
out at the end is.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Going to be all good with me.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, like you said, Telly, at least you've engaged with something.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I think one thing that I wanted to ask is
that you know, when you're going into like directing these
films and you know you've got a whole ewie behind you,
do you is it always hard? Like you know when
you're obviously directing the film that you're mindful of what
everyone else in the Ewie is thinking as well, now
you should take that out, bro, Now put this in.
(03:42):
Do this like the input or is that just your own.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
You have those conversations right up front, because you know
all those Hapou and Faro, they all want their topnother
be the man or, and so you just go, well,
it's not actually about them, and so we're going to
have this kind of fictional narrative that's going to drive
our story and then everything around it. We're gonna put
your tupe on her here and there, and they're gonna
be standing in behind of there. We all the time
(04:06):
that they're all there, and I'll reveal that one day.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
There.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
We money put a pretty amazing for Tim Wader to
play there.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
We write, man, that guy is a superstart's fifty years
of Tim Wader Morrison as an actor in Altor and
in the world, and he's absolutely amazing in it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And he's he's a bit of a dick to you.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Just remember how I'm saying to me, you know, because
we are really good friends and we can talk like that
to each other.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And he got the script and it's like, I don't understand,
I don't understand. I don't understand Mike, Mike, who's ready
this stuff?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Bring him up and said, no, you're gonna leave it.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
What you're gonna do is read the other people's lines,
and you know, because he's he's such a start. As
soon as I gave him that moment before that, that
this mean popolo scene that started our film, he just
I saw the light going going on and he turned
into this stoic and he is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He did also tell me that every time you have
filmed an audition for him, he didn't get the role,
but when your wife Chinzi dead, then he got the role.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
In terms of the action scenes, are we going to
get amazing action?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's going to be like
oh I was about the spoiler's.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, just watch yoursel Yeah, he does his own stunts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That was also I can see the scars.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, true, it was. It was lovely doing stunts with
all like all my peers and just like like explosions
and stuff and yeah, just's action packful.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's action packed and it's really important. What a beautiful
time to release it to Matadiki so that the twenty
six officiallyday just also we've got Maiki long week to
be able to celebrate it as well. So Giner Max
because it's actually really important that we support New Zealand
movies like this, and it's also all of our cord
(06:08):
it also then O then incopable. It's really important that
you've given it such important respects. So record and let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Come up, I don't, let's go.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Thanks for listening to the Flavor Breakfast podcast. Catch a
new app here tomorrow, or listen live every weekday from
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