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September 16, 2024 43 mins

On today's podcast, Charlie meets his league idol, Nigel Vagana. Beard mascara is that something more guys need to get amongst. Plus, who out there is calling their partner bro and is it okay? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Flavor Podcast Network, the Flavor Breakfast Podcast with
a Zorah and Charlie. On today's podcast, Charlie's sher a
heck for someone who is salt and pepper beer.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh, and I mean my idol of my favorite Reguby
League player of all time, and I do.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
And Bro, who are you calling? Bro? Bro?

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Some people you shouldn't be calling Bro? Find out right
now on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
In Everybody it was stay and Charlie.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I caught that too. Then Nay, it's Tuesday, the week
you may money language week. And I've got a great
word for you guys. Tickle COUDI ah, two words, tickle tickle,
coody dog, yes.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
And you know what the other one is, Charlie, surely
dog poo.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
I don't want to be having poo chet tickled chet
this early in the morning, but thanks for my freaking
coodie dog. I do tell me why he wants to
only do it on the mat inside.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
The house that his tickle mat.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
He wickens so actually have gone through a couple of
mats like you can clean a mat, but still just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
It's not quite it and.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
He just just he just takes it as a I
don't know a red flag or a red flag to
a ball or to a stupid little dog. I'm so
mad with him because cleaning up pooh before like five
in the morning is not the best thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I want to know. Has he always poohed on the mat?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
If he does do a poet's always on the mat
as in the light colored mats?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Could he well, how do you say?

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Naughty?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Could he?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Could he? Knel and years old? He's eight, man, you
should know better.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Because he's getting old again.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Did he always do this? Truly?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
He always did pretty much. He's He's got no tuttinger,
No he is. Yeah. I don't know what's going on
with you, Ziggy, but I'm talking to his radio and
I'm saying, Quade hate dinner.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
That's enough, that's enough.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Come on, Ziggy there.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
We are not alone in the studio.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We are not alone. Whoa you know? Take that one
on this?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, so joining us now?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Dally m Center of the Year in two thousand and
one and two thousand and two. You know him from
so many great nur L ties that you can recite
back to him.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
It is not.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
I was only five years old when I got those Awards.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, it's amazing. You must have been.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
And so you are hosting the boys Trip trip that
we're giving away with the flavor I am, I am,
You've done this before, so so tell us about the
people that go on these boys trip trips all the
way to.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
The Big Dad.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Frustly, it's I know, it's cool boys trips, but it's
not just for boys. Yes, a lot of families.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Go, and your wife's going, my wife's going.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
But it's like, I didn't realize how many people really
really love behind the scenes. You love the game, uh,
and to be able to come and sort of share
a few stories. But then I've got a couple of
mates that are joined me this year. I did it
last year with a couple of boys as well, Isaiah Papa,
And to simply there's a couple of local boys playing.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
In and so boy that's just coming with you.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
This year's coming this year. I pulled in Tony pull
Tour as well, manage from that west side, our brother's
Colston Boys.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
So yeah, so you didn't invite Eden so Blearry, Well, I.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Think they asked verybody, but he's too expensive these days. TV.
Yeah you know, Actually he looks down the road from me,
and I was saying earlier. As soon as he moved
in about six months later, the council started fixing his roads,
fixing his Yeah, he was talking about that beard thing earlier.
I was listening on the way in, so I might

(03:46):
need something for him as well.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
So is getting all the love this morning. Hey, I'm
coming up, Nigel. This is Charlie. Put me if you
haven't been him before, he hears something to say, don't
you very soon?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Very soon?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I that's been living with me for a very long time.
I need to get this off my chest. Brother. So
that's a big chest there too.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Don't be saying things like that, Nigel.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
You're already getting the ticks then, Yes, Nigel, the o
G Warriors are in the house.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Any advice for our current warriors, Oh ummm.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Don't believe the hype. Don't believe well inside you know,
like it's all about you and that you know you're
always going to get outside noise and they'll get a
lot after the way they went this year. Competed last year,
but off season ahead and coming back bigger next year.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, this is the kind of advice you're going to
give to people on the Boys trip because you are hosting.
This is amazing by the way, Like he will literally
be there for the Boys trip, for the Inner Our
Grand Final and you'll live the entire time, right Nigel
from the Harbor Crew.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
How you get to the Inner l Grand Final.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
It's a river that goes all the way to the
stadium at Homeboys Don in Sydney and they cat to
the game. You catch your cruise to the game. It's
pretty cool. Yeah, how goes for about I think about
three or four hours, you know, lunchtime and you're sort
of cruising. Truth. They do a little bit under the
Harbor Bridge first and they go all over the place.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
See, I don't know what's having for time for you, Nigel,
because it's actually two hours, but you think it's three
or four.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
So I don't know what you were doing on the.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Cruise because I get there early. You've got to be
prepared professional. It's a lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
In your presence, man, and some of it's in our players.
You know, you'll get you'll get some of these people
that will ask you all the questions. They'll probably know
more about the game then then you're to be honest.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, we get a few. We get a few. That's
why I had to bring in a couple other boys.
Soussy's jumping and you know mong only boy out South Aukland,
you know, being on a journey as well, turning pull
a tour. So it's good to get a couple other
guys in and then we can do because we do
a bit of trivia, you know, like you guys do,
so we sort of jam and give give a few
prizes away and that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
So all nice.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's all on this trip with the boys trip the
Big Dance by the way, you're a chance to win
and get your stuff in the drawer for air Flavor
is coming out real soon. But Nigel, this is Charlie
put me and he has waited a long time to
say this to you.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Nigel, my brother from a saying Paust boy to a
same paustboy.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
St. Paul's College, by the way, and Thomak and mccado.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I went to saying pause did Paul to be and
my brother take courage and be a man? And it
was the year two thousand, in the year ninety nine
we made this little Warriors Merit team and and we
were given scholarships and when we went to school. Mister
Morrow was the old principal at this time, and we

(06:47):
got caught wagging down in stages this one one day
and we were according to the principal's office. And when
we came into the principal's office, mister Morrow goes, you
know what, you boys, You guys are so ungrateful Joe Waganer,
Nigel Wagner, Stacy Jones, he and other people that he
told me that you guys have put together some money

(07:09):
to help with the scholarship for us kids, you know,
coming out from suff Auckland in all this, and he
goes to me, you know what, you boys, if you
guys ever see these boys, Nigel, Joe, Stacy, you guys
owe them an apology.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I felt so bad, Bro, squaking on your scholarship. And
then you know, I never ever got to meet you, Bro,
And now that you're coming into the studio, I just
like to formally apologize for wasting your time, you know
what I mean. But look I'm here now on radio.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
You know he didn't waste my time. And so look
at you. You know, you've made a big GIF sort
of come good. Maybe that wasn't your journey. There was
a bigger calling for you in life. Man, that's where
you are right now.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's pretty awesome. Do you feel better in your heart?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
A little bitter.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Realized I was.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
You don't even know how paid scholarship.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Didn't even know maybe because I blocked it out after
we heard the noise. Yeah, maybe you heard the news
coming out with you guys.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
But do you remember doing that.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
That's an amazing thing for you to do to put
towards the scholarship.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Why did you do that?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know?

Speaker 6 (08:12):
I think a lot of the guys we you know,
we just want to help, you know, and we all
sort of come from that world as well. We sort
of have opportunities that sort of maybe some others don't.
So if we can help sort of open the door
a little bit for them, you know, whack the jendle
in there so it stays open and get more of
the more opportunities for our people coming through. It's a
blessing for us to be able to help.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So it's cool. You're a great man, brother, You're a
great man.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
We only just met, but thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's not he was wagging on your scholarship.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
But he's from.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
But you know at school, we get that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
We are you, Liz put nogel to the tists coming
up after the song and in the ring, how well
does he know his old school?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
What are you laughing about?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
What are you well, Charlie got something off? Yeah, yeah,
say Paul's boys now now they're bros. But no, but
this is going to change because you're now going hit
to hit a week and then the ring. Charlie, would
you like to describe how this game works?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
All right, Nigel, So this is how the game works.
We are going to play an instrumental and you have
literally five seconds to guess what the who the artist
is and the name of the song and using your
buzzer will be your name. Okay, so Nigel, Charlie whoever
the judge or the referee will make name or here first.

(09:37):
Then you get the opportunity to do your think.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Gentlemen, check your buzzes please, Charlie, but fascin like off
the mark like you used to play. Okay, said your
buzzy pliceous that we're talking about, that's more like and
it will quickly.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Say Nigel, you know, if you cannot correctly identify who
the song is by then Charlie will get a turn
and vice versa.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Your first song Bazzas please.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Is it a shanty?

Speaker 6 (10:23):
No?

Speaker 7 (10:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Do I get a turn?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yes, but I'm just trying to think of.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's very nice for two half a point paradise.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Half that one?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, you said what was the sit up?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
There wasn't she in the studio that the song was recorded.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Again?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Song number two. Currently it is half a point for
Nigel and zero for Charlie.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Charlie Usher, you remind me of a game.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Charlie you heard every day, so you should know Erica.
So that's one to one point five. Charlie's in the lead.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
This one I think will be good for your vintage
Nigelwaga nat okay.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So track number three, yes.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
And Joy, Yes, tell me it's real, It's real, It's.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
All real, all real.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
So it's one point five to one.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
So this is the decider.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
You know, we're in the finals. It's just like the
Grand Final.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Weird Chad that is taking to.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
This terreets is real. Come on, come through you love
the pressure. Diamonds are built under pressure.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
This is your final track?

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Nudge?

Speaker 7 (12:12):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (12:13):
Is it? Put your back into it?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I hear what you were going. Man, Yeah, yeah, yes,
that's what it is. Ladies man, no, no, would you
like to seek in Geese?

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Ni?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
John?

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yeah, I know the scene, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
So you know the song is He'll talk.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't know the song so.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
It's not a song then if you guys don't know,
but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Because still taking it out by point five is not
You're like, oh my goodness, you are the winner.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh he's going to be hosting everybody, the Boys Trip
the Inn our Grand.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Final, Stace Azura and Charlotte and we have a week
of wayata, a week of wayout that as it is
that week with that El Mardy, we're looking at some
way out that that it's just really good to have
locked in because sometimes you can be singing long go
what are we singing there? So if you think about
our national anthem in English, God Defend New Zealand. It

(13:30):
was a poem actually written in the eighteen seventies by
Thomas Bracken of Dunedin, and this was all part of
the songwriting competition. Actually, the Mardi version of the song
was produced in eighteen seventy eight by Thomas Henry Smith
of Auckland. He was a judge in the Native Land Court.
Not Mardi though from what I can tell. But you know,
quite a few of them were bi lingual at that point.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's not a direct translation the Maldi version. You should know.
And can I just check in on the lyrics? How
are we going with the lyrics? Everybody? We are good?
Who do you know them?

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Starts? I've been going.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's oh, Lord, God like, how goes God? Nations? Ah's
a oh yeah, that's looking very unsure. You're moving on.

(14:32):
You weren't giving me a what's your national inthem? No? No, no,
I'm overthinking it now.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I'm overthinking ith pie. Because of the phrasing, we tend
to go key yeah, yeah pie at the pi.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Makity oh.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
That's this version that they play in the schools.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
So God Save the Queen was actually New Zealand's only
national anthem until the nineteen seventies, and then in ninety
seventy three they changed the New Zealand flag, made us
a republic, and then we needed our own song.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
So what a jam a God? God of Nations?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Until the nineteen nineties, the first verse of the English
version was most commonly what was sung. And then I
want to give a shout out to Vicky Lee and
Cindy Joe at the Kiwi versus the Britain League test
in nineteen ninety two, the first people to actually sing
it bilingually. But the debate really started when Henny were
Hei Mohe sang it only a mate the nineteen ninety
nine rug. We will cut her singing now at the

(15:59):
time she only sanger Maudi and Keith English.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
No.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Keith Quinn, a very famous commentator of the time, he
felt like this at the time, which it did. The

(16:31):
newspapers blew up, the hate mail blew up, Paul Holmes
blew up, while Hannah he was still in London, and
then it actually brought open a good public debate. And
it's since become conventional to sing both the Mahdi and
English first, versus one after the other. So a lot
of our kids going up and listening now they have
only evern known bilingually. But that's why Dame hannewe he

(16:51):
more he that's one of the things she is known
for as her legacy.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's the only thing I've even on So yeah, from
the moment I've gone to school, because when did they
make it bilingual?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
It was after that nineteen nine nine, two thousand.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know what, man, Honestly, bro, that was a ballsy
move because you had the whole world looking into that,
and we all know, like we we love our anthem
and all this. But when, like the commentator said, who
was waiting for the English version and when it didn't
happen whole she didn't.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
She wasn't given much time, so she should I just
sing it, Marty, and that is that wiki or way
at that.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So you've got all of your way at it and
now you know the words. Aha, eh heyha couple boucher.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
So on a Tuesday, we put it to you on
our Flavor Instagram. At Flavor Radio, we ask a question.
It's pretty simple. Usually it's to settle something. And this
I didn't realize would get the reaction from the both
of you. No, I didn't really realize it would get
the reaction it did. But I understand the reaction about

(18:00):
calling your partner bro. So I do have always call
my partner broke, and he does the same to me.
I'm definitely worse producer. And it also always calls her
partner bro more than also her her boyfriend, which.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Is you can't make it make sense, but the two
of you, your stance is.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
It wasn't it wasn't flying with Stace and me too,
because it just brought up some and argument memories. And
you know, as soon as you said this, I just
seen Stece. She was like, I know you didn't.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Oh no, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
So like, if my husband calls me a bro, no,
what would you do? What would you do?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well, it's like when we decided to first go on
a date and we knew each other right and already
known each other, I said, well, first of all, you
have to stop calling me kuz oh. And I can't
see the difference between and because no, no, no, what
that was just because we were like as cats they
Nina like, because it was platonic, right, But if you're

(19:10):
going to change it, I don't think I.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Even want to be called cause. But you know what
makes it funny is that you're both from to do
so it's kind of like litter that.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh, I don't worry, someone says to me.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
Go.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
We were saying in our Marty class, how come you
to a Mary because you're from the same You're like,
we're not that related.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Don't worry. You check their kids don't have an extra
number of you know, wrong with it.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's all good.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
So the chairpo was, do you call your partner brock yet?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Sixty one percent? No, way, thirty nine percent.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Times have changed, Bro, it's bro you for me?

Speaker 5 (19:46):
For me? It can be a what's the thing term
of endearment? Is it the right way to say it?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, it's just like in my household because it's like,
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
It's like bro can be used so much, but I'm like,
you know, if he's not listening or you can't see
the thing, I'm like, Bro, it's in the last draw.
Grab it. It's in the last draw. Or we say
it as a joke to each other as we're like,
oh true bro. Or you know someone sees something and
they're they're not correct. It's usually say how you call
them out and it's lighthearted, or.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
You could call them bro when you're like haha, you
know what I mean, and it's usually comes wrong. Yeah,
that's that's why it's quite offensive in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Ya.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
If you're like dating, just starting out and nic calling
them brom in it not even.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Used in that way, like you gotta think if he
passes me something to be helpful, I don't go cheers bro,
or like auger bro, Like I don't say it like
it's never ever said like that.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
It's always in like a bro, like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like honestly we need to or and like we're working
around and we're like, oh true bro, or like someone
says effect and we're like is that right?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like it's always either funny or grumpy.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
See, And this is why I want to I want
to put a list together of people that you should
and you shouldn't call bro okay late you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Stays yeah, yeah, certain people. And I'm going to say
children to the appearance, Oh don't.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
Be Oh no, it's coming up with the next few minutes.
Charlie's giving himself a job to do. We got to
do some hair, man.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
I'm going to let the people know. I give you
a calling your partner, bro. We're talking about it, so
I do it.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I have no shame in it.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
He does it back. We actually enjoy saying it. Say
it when we're grumpy, and say it when we're joking around.
Sixty one percent of you agree that you do call
your partner bro on our Turpo upon our Flevorredo Instagram story.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
But but I decided to write down the list of
people that you should actually that you shouldn't be calling
bro okay. So here's the first one. Obviously, a wife
to a husband or a husband to a wife. No, Bro,
there's no bro okay. Children to parents, that's a no go.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
And also that's not just bro. But Brah, Brah, there's
no loopholes, is what you're saying?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, Brah is that and you do hear that's like,
you know, even we're not even speaking English here, you know,
fucker pac here there put it held ald like empty
the dishwasher if you get a brah Man.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Or kids to elders, you know what I mean, Like
there's there's a certain way that you should be approaching
elders right not Hey Broke, you know what I'm saying,
boys to girls, And I'm guilty of this. I'm sorry
to do it.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
You call us all the time.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Because sometimes when I close my eyes and I hear
you talk, Yeah, she's no, you hardly hear me call
Stace bro. It's mainly just to you. Anyways, If you're
in court. Are you calling a judge?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Can I just say a few things? Okay, So there's
there's a certain people that you shouldn't be calling bro.
But you know, for this Cordtor in particular, not partners man.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Hey, yeah, I actually wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
If we were to go back to the first point
on that list of people we shouldn't call bro.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
You said wife and husband. You didn't say boyfriend girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, because if you want to progress to
the wife and husband stage, you're not calling your boyfriend bro.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
But it's like it's like slang.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm making my content with producer and it because we
maybe it's just we're doing.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Maybe it's just the younger generation.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Well here's okay, here's ticks. Bro is a funny saying
between guys or go. But if someone calls me Bro,
I look at them my side and go side eye
and say I'm not your bro. Moving to oz and
every Ozzie calling you bro, it becomes annoying, just.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Like the accent by Brah Brah brahs.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, it's it's I think it just depends on the couple.
That's what I'm going to say.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
For us, it's fun and funny.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
I've heard that several times. You doth protest as much, Zrea.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Leave me alone. Bro, You're right, bast No, we're not going.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Uncle. We're talking about bro, like, don't call your partner
bro bros.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
And the text came through. By the way, we do
not know how much truth is to this. It is
just a text that someone has said. Guess what Ruby
Toy called King Charles? G should have called him bro.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I saw that she did.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, No, it was in that when they met King's
King Charles last week. That's after she said, what the
heck is a curtsy? And then they're having their photos
taken in they asked him for a hug and then
she she yeah, she got him.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
J oh.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Well, being born into being the king and that all
you did was be born. That's that's pretty g.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's pretty zy. They should write stories about it that
should be put into history. Shut g.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Stays, Azora and Charlie.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Leave Hawken Holkins.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
He is a professional skateboarder and artist from Dunedin, but
he's based in Auckland. This guy is a legend and
even though his career spanned decades long, he became internationally
known for him mean, so we remember the time that
the internet and the world got neck minute, put.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
My scooter outside the theory nick minute.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yep, pretty iconic.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
That Mardy neck mannutte manut.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
So the clip's actually.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Only nine seconds long and it was recorded for South
in Your Mouth, which was an independent skate film. In
twenty ten, it was really normal for skateboarders to actually
make little like films and videos and put them on
YouTube YouTubers happening.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Thing as well.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
So the clip was actually taken from South.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
In Your Mouth, the little documentary and posted to YouTube
separately a year later in twenty eleven. It became viral,
being viewed millions of times. Levi was thrusted into a
world that no one could have prepared him for, or
anyone for that matter.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
He appeared on.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Every news outlet here and Alta or.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
He also featured on The johnno and Ben Show for
a segment called food in a Neck Minute.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
Pooji, welcome to food in a nick Minute. If you're
looking for something tasty to feed your family but don't
have the minutes, try this chicken Alfredo Past the Beach.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Parodies, merchandise and remixes were made.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nima Oh he blew up blew upette guy they called him.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, it is what they did call him.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
But years later we learned from Levi himself that the
fame came at a cost for him.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
He was bullied.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Online a lot about his appearance, and that was something
that he dealt with when he was younger.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Because Levi actually suffers from.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Ectodermal dysplasia, so it's a condition to your hair and
your teeth. It causes them to grow abnormally, and he
did actually talk about that struggle in a documentary in
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I guess I became a meme.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
They actually had the intention of doing comedy, but then
when it happened, I was like, I'm not so sure
about this. This woman and her daughter came up and
they said, oh wow, you were really funny and intelligent.
We just thought you were some dumb poor person. That
moment made me start thinking differently.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
The eight minute documentary was incredible. Actually, it gave you
really a true insight into who who Levi Hawkins is.
You can actually look it up loading docs. Meme Me
is the name of it if you want to watch
the full documentary. But nowadays, Levi is still a successful
artist and skateboarder. You can catch them bombing hills all

(28:24):
over the globe, uploading them online, and also creating sculptures that.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Are being sold in galleries.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah see look at Levi slash Hawkins slash.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Art Levi Hawkins. We remember the time Dot, we honor
you to you Leger's the Lueta bro. Charlie, Charlie Chatlie.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Okay, guys, listen. The other day I sat, I don't
even know why I say these things. I just feel
that this is a safe space and that I just
opened up to you girls, you know, and I love
it when you guys give me advice as well. A
couple of weeks ago, I talked about the whole salt
and pepper beard thing and then you're like, na, nah,
that's fine. You're talking about yourself, Harlie or this, you know,

(29:06):
And I was. I was trying to open up whether
I should diet or just you don't even have.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Many grays, like it's quite a few, okay, wow, all right, okay,
there's enough for it to be a salt and piper beard.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Like, I'm not gonna I'm not going to tell them
you're crazy. I can't see any they're deffinitely there.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah. So on Saturday, M seed a end of challenge
for OTB in Takanini and I decided, you know what
broke like because I don't really know anybody there, I
need to I need to die there. I need to
dye the grays on the on the beard. But rather
than dying, I thought, you know, I'm going to try
this heck where I grabbed a dye that's similar to

(29:45):
mascara and I just took it out of the little
pin and started painting my beard. But the problem was
I was wearing a suit, a white shirt and everything,
but my beard. You know, I'm just under the chin.
It's all brazes against the collar of the shirt with
the white shirt on the white shirt. So I was
here taking photos and it was corn and all that.

(30:07):
Then one other guy that I've seen it, he took
a photo with me, and I'm like, I'll break and
a look at the photo.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Tell me why, bro.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Nobody even told me I had a black stain on
my collar. Bro, So that from the beard musk beard?
Did you use the proper beard muscarah or just a muscarah?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I don't even know if it's a proper one or not.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
But I thought, would you get it from sayny, I.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Got it from a mate. I'm not gonna say it
might be.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
They might not want people knowing that they but yeah,
but it said for men.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
For beards.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, but if you want to save money, Charlie, and
you know, I would assume that this beard muscara for men,
and it's saying that they could probably charge you a
bit more if you go into your local pharmacy or
like the Chemis warehouse or even the wearhouse for that matter,
you can buy a waterproof muscara that will do the
exact same thing and not rub off reckon. Yeah one

(30:59):
because waterproof and it's not going to come off from sweet.
It's not going to come off from water. It will
stay on. It'll also die. It's the same thing, right
you said it was a little brush, Yeah, a little
brush that came in the tube.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So it's basically it.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Was just like painting a picture, bro. You know, it
was quite satisfying seeing all the grazy and covered up.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Although I did it, like can it mark on your skin?
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Like if you like I've used this sort of spray thing,
it's like got a nozz and you can just put
it on, you know, little bits of you here Gray
pat do you want to cover?

Speaker 3 (31:26):
But then it can go on your scalp and then
it looks all dossy.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Oh I'm not too sure.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah, I think you gotta work on technique if you're going.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
To do that. Yeah. See, I'm an amateur when it
comes to this, you know. So it's a lot of
trialing era. I met the trilie era stage.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
So is it something you're going to continue to do
or look into?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I can't shar it all my Seacris, have you seen
me coming into working? I'm a little bit darker on
the hairs, Bro, then anything, don't say anything, you know,
because I know you Bro, you got the eyes.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Of a Yeah. Sorry, didn't look at you there much.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
But sorry? Everything do you get in your haircut? Oh?
What's different about your face? I'm like, Bro, you're making
me feel like.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Some type of way here, Bro, any hacks, any tips
for Charlie on how to use beard mascara better while
he's in this growing face or just flag.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
It, you know, like they might be the feedback as well.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah, yeah, what do you think you should do? Care
or not care.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's kind of what it is.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And it's all personal preference, right, It's the same reason
women diedy here. So it's like, if you want to
do it, play on, if you know you don't want to.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's also cool they just know spra today double oh
wave your breakfast oh mc.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
So, where as we mentioned in Dane and James, sadly
Tito Jackson, eldest brother of the Jackson family died at
seventy years old. Then over to the Emmys and we're claiming,
you know anyone who's vaguely related to New Zealand as
usual and sway, she was born in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And then she met Japayman.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
She was ten and she was in Showgun and she
won Best Actress and Emmy for that Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
And then someone called.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Will Smith, who's not Will Smith, who we know the singer,
rapper and slapper. Well, yeah, that's the thing. This is
a guy, he's a white guy who is a writer.
Anyone for writing. And then they got up when he
got as a wood and said this first of.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
All, relapse despite my name, I come in peace.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
He difly thought about everyone for a while, and in
other news. Eve has record she received a lot of
pushback from Jay Z and other men in the music industry.
She just shared this in an interview that she's done
with The Times. Jason actually called her to congratulate her
when her debut album dropped, but also issued a warning.

(33:49):
He advised her saying, you know, female rappers don't usually
do that well, so don't be too disheartened that if
that happens.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah. Yeah, despite this, you know, album went on to
sell two million.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Abe, there was obviously many other men, and she just
said the audacity that these men had it's hard. When
I first read this, I thought, I mean, he is
kind of, you know, just letting you know, this is
the nature of the industry. But when you really think
about it, I would imagine that over there, if any
of the boys dropped an album, that'll be seeing each
other up like, but this is gonna be the This

(34:25):
is going to be the like. But you ring a female.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Just letting you know it might not do well, just
just just sort of put it out.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
How does she take it as a helpful thing or
he just didn't need to let patronize it.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I think she at the time just took it normally
because that's what she thought was normal. Is based on
what I'm saying, what I'm reading right now. It's not
until later that she has really reflected on it, and yeah,
has said the audacity that these men had. Now I
have age and experience on my side, and nobody's coming
at me like that.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yes, so that is your om goss.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
And if we were to say something like one times mucy,
one time's chalky milk, what does that start to make
you think of?

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, perhaps this brown paper bag that I saw on.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
The Facebook, of course the Facebook.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Which had a school lunch order, so that's how it
used to be. Who also remembers this.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I'm surprised as there if you had it like this,
you had it you wrote on a brown paper bag.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wouldn't write on the teacher would yes.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
At head teacher writing at the at interval you go
and put your order in or the first period, first
first few months a class, yes, and primary school, and
then that's what you get at lunchtime.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
So like you have your name six B, your classroom
or room eighteen one meat pie. Well it was like
a dollar twenty back in the day. I remember that
a chocolate donut and a big m It's dollar as well,
so in total three dollars twenty and plash.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Bro. Honestly, you know what, I she loved coming into
school primary school in the morning, and you can hear that.
You can smell the you know, the balking, the pies
and the chips and just the smile of oil. But
you know, yeah, I remember because I was also the
lunch monitor standing three as well.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
But why were you the lunch monitor though?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I don't know, man, because well I never used to
order from the touch shop, only on Thursday's pe days.
But I think my teacher was just like, okay, Charlie,
since you didn't order any food, you just go you
just go take a sniff of this food of the glassroom,
because you know she bring it into old class.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
They didn't do it every day at my primary school.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
No, yeah, so it was only a.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Friday's thing lunch order day, yes, yes, and I did.
I did get it.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
It was like a hot dog, like think an American
hot dog. Yes, yeah, and that was always my order too,
and then a chocolate milk. I also put my hand
out to be one of the helpers to deliver un.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
So lunch that was a limbs baby alms. That's monitors.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Is that what stands for?

Speaker 6 (37:13):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
And also if you live in the south like Dunedin.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
When I lived in Timodoo growing up, we'd go around
with an actual kettle and like poor born Vita like
before mylow in the morning because it was so freezing.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Oh yeah, for real thing this was a thing us
was ours.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Was my low. But yeah, we used to have whole
cups and milow.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I think born Vita got taken over, but yeah, no,
they'd have a massive kettle and it was like such
a ceremony in the morning to have this massive hittle
filled up in the zippi in the.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Star room, you know, going to the starfroom on my gosh.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Because we had like people in my classroom that used
to wash the dishes in the star room.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
So lucky because they marked around for ages and got out.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Of cars, I know, and then had had the biscuits,
wines all them. Funny though the kids beg to wash.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
These plack because like the starf was like a unspoken grounds.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, but do you sort of walk in there and
go anything's changedble, I wonder what happens in here.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
The teachers probably call each other. But the first name.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
If I say Pizza Hut buffet, what does that sort
of what does that do for you in your mind?

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Stomach ache? Really yeah, I've never done one.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
I've never done one, have you both?

Speaker 6 (38:32):
I have?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah? Okay, I remember the Pizza Hut and Papa Toy
and we're like, there was they had the buffet well
set up, and you know, the Pizza Hut had these
like funny little stores where it was like.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
A hype, like a hut.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well like the logo, so the actual
place of Pizza Hat used to look like the Pizza
Hat logo looks.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Like why did they get rid of the buffets? The
Pizza Hut buffets?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
What it costs too much?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Because people like Charlie basically.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, but this is the thing we couldn't afford to
go to the pizza by face. But I was invited
to a birthday and this is my first time.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I was like, there was that bit you remember.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It was one of the kids from school, James, and yeah,
he was quite well off, but it was Yeah, his
mom put the whole birthday on anyways, and everyone came
off toys and gifts and all the stuff. And I
didn't have a gift like a proper one. But then
I remember my uncle who worked at like they they
made plates and all the stuff. So then I took
like a plate as a birthday.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
That it made.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah yeah. And then anyways we get there, bro, and
I just see all these pizzas under the oven or whatever.
These are all lights. Oh the whoa, I'm in heaven.

Speaker 7 (39:47):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I just remember making one plate, you know. And then
I came back and sat done. I was like, Bro,
I'm done. I don't know what a buffet was like
they go, no, go get some more. Was like, I
really can I do this? You know what I mean?
But then I remember they had an ice cream machine.
I'm telling you, bro. And I've just seen the ladies
bring up pizzas on pizzas on pizzas and.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Hawaiian always read first, Yeah, weird the country, don't you.
They're not good things either.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
I heard that they had pasta, Yes.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Some had pasta, and.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Someone else has said jelly, you know jal.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
In the desert area. That's right.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
This is this is what I hope they're going to
have for the fiftieth birthday and anniversary of Pizza Hut
here and old because guess what they're bringing the Pizza
Hut buffet back.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
It's already sold out.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
It's already sold out.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So it's for a limited time as that, yes, only
for four days. It's up here in Auckland City at
the City Works Depot. And I'm just like, there's no
actual pizza Hut in the city Works depot by the way,
So how they're.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Going to do a Pizza Hut buffet, I don't know.
I make that makes sends to me.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Man, Honestly, I'm telling you, man, a few know. You
know this is going to bring back some great childhood
Memosa unlimited pizza brother, the marshmallows, the jelly beans and
jelly can I be honest.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I pulled some strings so I can get myself there.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I really, I really.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
When the ticket sold out and I.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Tried to buy them, I give will come from ice
creamed yesterday I screened.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
This can't happen like nah, nah my one child.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I'm not waiting till the one hundred years, So I
will on behalf of us go to the Pizza hu
buffet and let you know how it is and not
you trying to drag all of us to go with
you as who's on Stacey's premiering something tonight, National Treasure. Yeah,
finally getting on the big screen again.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh well small screen.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
I don't know TV screen. So TV went passiven tonight.
So National Treasures is about so Keepsakes telling her that
people are holding themselves that sort of tells the story
in New Zealand history, like say the wheelbarrow from the
student army that.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Helped after the christ At earthquakes.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Those kind of things, war medals that people bring in
that they've earned themselves, and they sort of tell us
about a part of maybe New Zealand military history you
didn't know about. My husband gets to dive the Rainbow
Warrior wreck.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Shut up, wait, wait what is the Rainbow Warrior wreck?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Like back in the day, say this is like when
the French was it like they tested some nuclear tests.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
That's it, and the Pacific and we're you know, we're
nuclear free. That's our starts, right, And the Rainbow Warrior
was one of those protest boats that were now and
they had a couple of literally secret agents who bombed
it here didn't you know that?

Speaker 7 (42:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
And it's kind of gets to dive it.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Did he enjoy it?

Speaker 5 (42:50):
He loved it.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
She was just told a little fib because they said, oh,
you've dived recently, haven't you.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
He goes, oh yeah last year, but that was in
our poll during lockdown.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
The more we know about him, the more i'm you know,
what I'm surprising to love about Scott is that you know,
he's a gentleman, but he's a naughty boy.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
But he's right though.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
It's such a good even just piece of advice is
sometimes like till you make it, like why are you
going to say no to an opportunity like that?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Hard?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Because because at the end of the day, he knows
his own physical capabilities, he knows he can do it.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
He's not He doesn't need to tell them about where
he dies. And I know I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
So yeah, so you got to check it out. Yeah,
National Treas on TV tonight, love for you to watch it.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
That's it from us, guys.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
We'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Thanks for listening to the Flavor Breakfast podcast.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Catch a new here tomorrow or listen live every weekday
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