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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Well, we're definitely covering a lot of ground today, so
it's nice to know everybody is spring inspired and the
weather's changed and getting some things done around the home.
Glad you could join me, as promised, Peter Duce should
be joined us. We've talked about roller rock in the
past and we talk about it again. The one thing
I see, and if I was just talking to a
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buddy about this the other day, there's a couple of
things in our city in terms of commercial services, concrete coatings, bathrooms,
roofing and waterproofing. It's like everybody in the world must
have these problems. We got the man here to help us.
Peter Dice from Dice Codings, Welcome aboard. You're at home
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with Gary Salvin Peter.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good morning Gary. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm just living a dream. How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Same, same, same, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, here we go. I keep getting notices. I want
to talk about the tracks safe with color additives. But
before we get going, we've had a couple discussions already
about roller rock and doing different garage floors and things,
and I was telling people there's so much out there,
and then I'll let you tell me about you know,
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how to resolve that we talked about some inexpensive I
used to complain about inexpensive epoxy coatings, do it yourself things,
minimum maybe maximum lifespan that I've seen is four to
five years. And I've talked to you about your industrial
strength Epoxy's a little different story. And then we talk
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about roller rocks. Then I see start seeing ads about
people that are coming in and putting polyurrea coatings on
what's what I know? The science behind coatings for concrete
have been dramatic and have really opened up the the
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playbook on what we can do to our garage floors,
patio floors, laundry room floors. Tell me what roller rock
is and I know it's a great product, But why
it's a great product.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, roller rock is a stone coating and it comes
in a bunch of different colors. But the whole idea
there is if you have a surface that is drab
or maybe has been repaired before, it's got some patches.
Patches never look the same, You're going to have to
cover that with something, and ideally you want something with
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some body. So the whole idea behind roller rock is
hence the name roller rock, It's a stone coating. You're
blying it all with a roller, but once you put
it on, it covers all of the repairs that you
may have done. It'll cover any airline tracks, It'll offer
a very attractive, very uniformly textured surface that has visual highlights.
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And it's a very slip resistant surface too, so it
basically hides everything. It gives you very uniform, very attractive
surface in basically fifteen different colors, and once it's down,
it's very very durable. So it's going to stand up
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to foot traffic, it's going to stand up to your
car tires if you happen to be parking on it.
It'll stand up to shoveling in the winter. But basically
it creates a whole new surface that you're not just
painting it, because a lot of times, if you have
an old surface and you're putting on a thin, thin
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coating like a paint, like a portion and floor paint,
anything that's there or any texture or any repair could
still transmit through visually and you're going to see it
and it's just going to look like an old concrete
surface that you're painted. So the whole idea behind roller
rock is you're resurfacing rather than painting, and you're getting
a very very effective slip resistant surface as well. So
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you've got the safety aspect, the beauty aspect and you
just stand there and you roll it on. It's as
easy as painting, but it's a lot more durable than paint.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Now you've designed this product for do it yourselfers and professionals.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Correct, yes, yes, because you know, we literally have. You know,
there are very many contractors professionals that we work with
who who offer this as part of their business and
they install this and they'll completely renew you know, your
surroundings and they will roll this on, but you know,
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they will ensure that the surface is good and clean
prior to application. You know, they'll go through the steps
and they'll you know, obviously do it for you. Not
everyone wants to install it, and that's where the pros
come in, and they like working with it because the
effects are great, they're long lasting. They don't need to,
you know, come back and repair it or anything like that.
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It's very very durable. It stands up to the elements
and it's just an easy thing that they add to
their business package.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So when you say long lasting, were you throwing that
number at I mean, how long could a homeowner doing
the project following your directions, how long should last on
a garage floor, say, which is probably the toughest area.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Right, Yeah, Well, basically it can last you know, a
good good number of years. I'm talking five, between five
and ten years. But the important thing is that you
need to ensure that when you are applying the product.
You just want to make sure that the surface is
clean so that when you apply the coating, it's primerless
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by the way, so you don't need to put a
primer on first. Yeah, you just put this on two
good solid coats. It's stone, so it has a lot
of compact, compacting strength, and you know, basically, you know,
you put this on and you know it stands up
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to the elements, It stands up to freezing temperatures, it
stands up to UV, so it can be in a
hot climate, it can be in a cold climate. And
it just is stone that compacts very tightly together and
you are sealing it at the end. We have a
number of seilers that you can use. But it basically
is a very very water repellent, very durable, very stain
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repellent surface that if you slip and fall on this swell,
I don't know. I think I'd be very very surprised.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, it does definitely have good traction, and folks,
you can use this interior or exterior. And I know
the other thing is, you know, people always want to
know how long it's gonna last and what's it going
to cost, And really, when you look at the cost
of the roller rock, I wouldn't say it's any more
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expensive money than a good quality gallon of paint. And
it's certainly going to outperform it because it is a coating.
The thickness of the coating itself, so you can do
it a garage or even a laundry room floor relatively inexpensively.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You definitely can. And depending on the surface, we have
different seilers that you can use. So if you're using
this in your garage, you would use our garage and
driveway ceiling, which is especially made to repel any oil
or any kinds of stains that might happen in a garage.
If you're going outdoors, you would just use our Ultra clearcoat,
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which is fantastic. But the key is that regardless of
the weather, regardless of the season. It's going to perform
through all of that. It's going to keep looking great.
It's a new layer that you're applying, but you're doing
it with a roller from a standing position. It's very easy,
it's very fast. It dries generally outdoors within an hour max.
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But usually within roughly half an hour it's dry, and
then you just roll on a second coat and leave
it alone till the following day, and that's when you
seal it with the ceiler that you would use. Coverage
is excellent. It covers a good area, covers between eighty
and one hundred square feet per gallon, and that's putting
down a very very very good solid coat on that
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surface that hides anything that was there before.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now, how often should you seal it with like the
garage driveway.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Ceiler the seiler generally we suggest, you know, maybe every
two years. But honestly, once it's on and and that
that layered effect of what you've got there is there,
it's going to last. But we would say just to
keep it looking totally pretty, keep it looking brand new
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and clean all the time. Maybe every couple of years,
every two three years, put another code of the yat
to it.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Then it has a.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Little bit of achine, but not an insane amount of
machine because you don't want a surface it looks.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Like plastic, right satin, so.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Exactly exactly something you know, so that so that the
stone character is there. And uh, that way you get,
you know, you get all of it. You get you
get the beauty of the stone, you get you know, uh,
you know, not a shine where the sun is bouncing
off it and blinding you. It needs to be something
that is just a nice fit. It's great for your patio.
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It's fantastic for your pool deck, great for your porch.
And steps, you know, make those steps you know, safer
to go up and down on, you know, when it's
been raining or whatnot. It's just it packs a lot
of value in one very easy to apply punch.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, we're talking about a product called roller Rock. It's
a rollable stone coating by Dice Coatings, and I guess
you can use it inside. Now, it's got so many
incredible reasons to use that. And you can put it
on as a do it yourself or you can maybe
hire a painter to do it. But what is the
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prep work to apply the roller rock? And again, folks,
that's a self priming formula. Is it just soap and water?
Are we getting into grinding or acids? Just walk me
through the prep work.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
YEP. So basically the best possible thing you can use
outdoors is a pressure washer. Just use a pressure washer
powersher if you call it that. But basically, you want
to clean that surface. You want to blast the dirt
out of the pores of that concrete. And once you've
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done that, you've really opened it up and you you know,
you're basically saying, okay, this is going to allow the
formula to to penetrate and lock into that surface. So
once you've done that, that's it's very easy. Just pressure wash,
get a clean let it dry for an hour, apply
the material, and literally, if you do your job on
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you know, you start it on a Saturday morning. By
Sunday morning you're installing or rather applying the clear seiler
because it requires twenty four hours to cure, so the
following day you seal it and the job is done.
So if you're doing it on let's say a garage
floor or or a very smooth power trowled concrete, you
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may want to actually do an etch. We have an
extra cleaner, which is extremely effective, or you can do
it the old fashioned way with a mix of you know,
two to one or three to one. Myriadic acid with
water been done forever. But basically the idea there is
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just to add a little bit of abrasion. Yeah yeah,
open up the pores, rough it up a little bit
so it's not quite so smooth. That gives you something
called mechanical adhesion where you're not just you know, waiting
for the formula and the chemistry to do it. You
actually have something that that coating, you know, can lock
onto and grab.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yep, yep. And a good time to use a high
power pressure washing instead of a little wimpy one too.
How about recoading. Once it's been coated ten years, it
starts maybe not failing, but just getting a little tired.
Can you go right over the top of with minimal preparation,
just good and clean.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Absolutely All you need to do is give it a
quick pressure wash at that point. You don't need a
lot of pressure because you're not opening up at that point, right,
We're just getting just sort of big exactly, and then
you just let it dry for an hour, apply any
any new color you want over top or if by
some chance you are interested in a different coating, a
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stone coating from our line and you want to go
over that, feel free because everything is made to be compatible,
and everything is made to be recodable by by the
by the selection of the products that we make, everything
is meant to be compatible.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
So Peter, people can have the dish coatings delivered right
to the right to their door and get started on it,
maybe next weekend, because we love to kick a can
down the road a little bit. Where do they get
Dice Coatings.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They can get it through us at dice codings dot com. Also,
the vast majority of our products are available through also
home depot lows and also Amazon Now as well.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Very good, very good, excellent, excellent. Well, I'll tell you what.
The weather's breaking where we're at the sun is out today,
and I encourage people to check out the roller Rock.
You can look at the website get an idea of
the products. A lot of great videos there too. It's
Dice Daichcoatings dot com. I spelled your name again, Peter Dische,
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Thank you very much. Gary, you have a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You do the same. Thank you. My friend, take care
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