September 7, 2025 • 44 mins
Talking with Flex Seal, JB Weld, Quikrete and Dumond Global.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, the weekends upon us Welcome Aboard at Home with
Gary Salivin continuing our broadcast at Do It Best Moon
Global is our guest and our friend Adam Smith then
earlier talking about different types of paint strippers.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And we've had many guests. We have another guests. We
have David Schwabauer, good Irish.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Name, ayboy here of a product called flex Seal. No,
I never heard of it. I never heard of that.
Can you really patch your boat with that? With a
screen door? Yes you can?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And the boat and the boat is still there.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
All right, it's.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
In their their museum of all the different props that
Phil Swift has created for his commercial.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So tell me a little history of the product Flexeal.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, the company's started by Phil and Alan Swift. Phil
is the spokesperson you see on TV. I get a
lot of questions whether Phil works for the company. Phil
actually owns the company and starting it with his brother Alan.
All right, they started the company in twenty eleven. They
started with one commercial, which was the screen door on
the boat, and from there it's just kind of taken off.
(01:06):
I started with them in June of twenty eleven, and
we have taken a company from one product, flex Seal
spray in a black to a wide variety of products
that are can be used for many applications around the home.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We're going to get into that. Is there a story
behind the invention of flexia, you know, like his boat
was sinking or.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, I think it was Phil was they had this
product from a previous company that he owned, and they
had this product that they knew they could do something
with it. So they worked with with the couple people
and somebody said, you know, you should do a commercial
on that, and they hooked him up with his Leman waterpotuff. Yeah,
(01:50):
and they came up with the idea of the boat
and the screen door, and they worked with a general gentleman,
great guy that did infomercial commercials, and they worked with
him and put together that first commercial good and it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Has just exploded from there.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And they're a great company, great family company, a lot
of family members involved in their day to day operations
of the company.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And it's awesome. That's awesome. So where do you hear
or where do you think.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
People use the flex seal product, the original one of
the spray and I know you haven't a can now
and everything else.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know, I think they're like with the spray, A
lot of people use it for gutters, they use it
for again, they'll use it for bird baths. We get
a lot of people use it where they get a
crack at a bird bath. We have so many different products
that solve and work with so many different applications that
it's we never get tired of hearing people telling us
(02:44):
how they use it, which, yeah, unbelievable. We get a
lot of people telling us and some of them were going,
really never.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thought of that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, you know, it is amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So in thirty nine years of doing radio, I've talked
to so many people that have products, and it is
amazing how many people invent something for a specific use
and for the next thirty years they're learning about their product.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Because it's the truth. People will they go like, well,
I could work there.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, it is, it is. It is really an amazing company.
I tell people this that Phil is an entrepreneur, but
he's an inventor and he's a genius. And he says,
if you walked in his office today in Western Florida,
and you walked into his office and you looked that
he has a white a wall, a solid white wall
(03:35):
that's a white mark board, whiteboard, and there's probably fifty
projects that are ideas that he has for new products.
As an example, here at to Do at Best Show,
we're launching two new products. One product is a product
that has been around forever, but he has simplified it
and he's in his commercial that's running now on TV.
(03:56):
He shows consumers he answers a lot of questions, and
that's a POxy. When you go in a hardware store,
there's fifty brands of epoxy on the wall, and there's
one for plastic, there's one for wood, there's one for aluminum,
there's one you know, there's yeah epoxy, and it's confusing
for the consumer. It's a big category. It's confusing. So
(04:18):
Phil took us and simplified it, and he developed a
formula for a product that works on every application, so
it works on every surface. So he makes it easy
for the consumer, and he also been putting it on
TV and showing in the commercial he actually sews a
NASCAR race car in half and puts it back together
with epoxy. One drives it around the track at one
(04:40):
hundred and sixty hour. So then we're launching another product
which is weather stripping. Now, weather stripping has been around
a long time, but you have to you have to
peel it off or whatever it gets. It's hard to
get off, and so we came out with a silicone
based weather but it's only it. He's even on one
(05:01):
side and it's removable and it won't take the paint
off when you remove it. But you can use it
like on because of the way it's designed. It has
a flap on the bottom. So like you have a
shower door, which is a very common problemower door, so
you can put this and it it and then it
will just move with it because it works like like
this squeegee keeps the water from leaking out of the shower.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You can also then apply it to the windows so
you can open the window without removing the weather stripping.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You can win. Those are the hardest thing to find
weather stripping for Yeah, because all these manufacturers have their
own little bead that fits.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
In a channel. You don't need that, but you can't
use door weather stripping.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right correct, So he is he's taken again another product
that it addresses a need and solves a problem. So
that's what most of our products do. They address a
need and they solve a product, and it goes all
the way from the flexial spray and then then the
next day moved into the tape, which was huge when
(05:59):
he was oh, it's slapping it underwater. And then he
built another boat out of flex tape. And so every
product that we've brought to market solves it can be
used in conjunction also with each other. One of the
products that we launched a few years ago, it's not
for everybody in the United States, but it's big in
the Southeast. We have a product called Flexial Flood and
(06:23):
it addresses hurricanes and flooding, and it's it's all flexial
products that have been designed to be removed now so
you can apply it to the door, put it around your.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
See you're taking your front door and making it submarine.
Like yeah, absolutely saw the submarine in half.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So he literally and then when the storm is over,
you can remove it and it just peels right off.
So they have it in tape, spray and in a paste.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So does he do storm windows out of plastic with
that tape.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, you could put it on it, you could apply
it to any surface to keep the water.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Up of those plastic sheets with double sided tape that
you hit with a heat gun and make a storm window.
The only problem with those things is trying to get
that tape off the nightmare.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Right, and this tape is removable, it is. And so
those are you know board.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Will you okay, puts next to it.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'll make sure, well put something on there. Uh, he is,
but he's constantly. So we're launching two new products here,
and the TV commercials now running on national television, and
he's and we're running commercials on the flex Seal spray,
which is the flagship of the brand and has been
around from day one, and we still you know, you
(07:44):
can buy Flex Seal products at virtually every hardware store
in the United States, no matter what brand they are
with it be a do it Best at ACE Hardware,
True Value and independent non affiliated hardware store. You can
also buy it at the large home centers. You can
buy it at the large discount man.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So well, it's it's like a cleanex brand now, I
mean it really is. I mean people refer to any
type of tar like spray see on his Flex Seal.
I mean it's become the name of the product.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And the new tagline is it really works? We hit
asked all the.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Time, does it really do?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Is sure, and we will put on the tagline as
it really works.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It does really work.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And I'm assuming that that is available everywhere, and we
know it's available to do it best stores, but pretty
much everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's available virtually everywhere. It's even at gas stations.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, So they do sell it everywhere, all right. And
the ego website for that Flex Seal dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's uh, it's gets flex Seal Products dot com. You
can just google flex. The easiest way is the Google
flex feel and it'll pop up. There's a lot of
how to videos on YouTube, a lot of video how
to videos out there on how to use the products.
So we encourage people. We put QR codes on our products.
They can scan it. Take some right to perfect perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So if you got something leaky or drippy, you might
want to pick up some of the flex sewer, take
a look at the website. Might be a newer product
that fits your problem perfectly. Well.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Shop at your locally owned hardware store. There you go,
they'll help for all products.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right, David, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I appreciate it, you bet you. All right, We'll take
a little break and we'll continue our show from the
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we'd be chatting some more. And it's a sticky situation
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He is would jab Weld a name we've all heard of,
And I'll tell you what. Let's talk about some glues.
We were talking, just chatting about epoxies. There's all different
(12:31):
types of epoxies and applicators. And a POxy is two part, right,
That's what epoxy means, two part. So you got a
resin and you got a hardener, and you'd think that's
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(12:53):
But that's not very scientific. So you've got ways to
apply an epoxy cract. It's correct.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, and thank you for having me, Gary. I appreciate
you having me on the show. Ultimately, epoxy is, as
you mentioned, a two part system, and you know, the
goal when you're applying it is prepping the you know,
the surface in whatever way necessary, ensuring there's no debris
or anything like that, and and mixing the parts one
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Oh yeah, that's why I'm saying. That's squirting it in
the paper place. Not very scientific.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Yeah yeah, and we've improved on that by adding auto
mixing or static mixing syringes where it comes out one.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Very cool. I got a bunch of them in work.
I mean it is it is a syringe and it's
got the apoc chae on one side, hardener in the other,
or the hardener in the resin. They're separate. You squeeze,
they come out equal amounts yep, yep.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
So it kind of takes in eliminates the the user error.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I call that. There you go. It's it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
so that's good. And you also have them where you've
got a fast dry versus a longer so you got
a five minute of epoxy.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Yeah yeah, we actually have an instant epoxy now that
it's it's just two minutes. But the goal is we
want to trade people up from the old school superglues
that they're used to using that has, you know, more
of a brittle overall adhesion. Epoxy, as you know, is permanent.
So by by kind of moving them up into an
epoxy or trying epoxy for the first time, we think
(14:24):
the consumer will have a better all, better overall user experience.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I couldn't agree with you more. I mean I couldn't
agree with you more. And we'll talk. I know you
guys have like a super glue be too super glue,
But when that started being marketed, probably early mid eighties,
it was the end all to everything. You're never gonna
need anything else. You just put a little able to
(14:49):
do you. I think it came out of the dental field,
isn't it for gluing pieces of teeth or tooth back
on your on your tooth.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I think that is where it originated.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
It and the superglue that we actually offers super blue
these days that that is UV activated and that's similar
to the superglues that they use in the dineral fields.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ential.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Yeah, so it's full circle. It really does, absolutely full circle.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So back to the epos you get, you just got
bear with Joe all over. Oh no. Yeah. So if
you move them up to an epoxy, you've got an
adhesive that's got more guts to it, it's got more body,
it's more pliable, more workable.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Absolutely, you you have more open time, you can you
can get things placed where you need them to be,
and it's permanent.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
At JB Weld, we we do. We do say that.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You know, we have the world's strongest bonds. The products
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Speaker 1 (15:39):
Do with that. I mean, it's a quality product, it's
a great product, it's wonderful product.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
With Within the retail market, we do have about eighty
six percent market share.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
So people people resonate out there.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
People resonate with the brand, They trust the brand and
uh and that's why you see us in over one
hundred thousand retail outlets.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I guess you use the non five. I want everything
done fast, probably most people do. I like the two
minute thing. I don't know if I can move that fast,
but you gotta be careful. U two mid five minute? Uh,
they still have the long form and I guess you
gotta clamp that and probably for specific projects.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, a lot of those applications are in the automotive
side where you know you're you're using them in ways
that are going to add structural integrity, et cetera. Four
to six hours, then it's full twenty four hour cure.
But those those harden as strong as metal. A lot
of them do have metal within the product, and it'll
take a magnet so you can tap them.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
They are very permanent fixes.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Any substrate I'm thinking out loud, so correct me if
I'm wrong, will accept in epoxy, right, I mean I
think a brick and wood, get concrete and absolutely, And
I mean I can't think of you know, maybe not paper,
so correct a napkin together or anything, but you can try. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah, overall, Yeah, we we have epoxyes for every substrate,
everything from plastic to metal to glass, concrete, et cetera. Yeah,
every every every substrate covered and we try to make
it easy by having.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Products specific substrate application.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So well, we got about a minute and a half.
And I know pickup trucks are popular in JB world
has a bedliner we do.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Uh years ago we purchased Turkey Liner, an acquisition of ours,
and we've improved on some of their items. Made a
two k POxy bedliner that that we that we sell
into the retail channel. But it's a two part system,
just like our epoxy.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We do have have a pickup so we have a roll.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
On version and then we also have a spray on
version that is a two part version that is mixed
and sprayed on with an air compressor.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Nice. Yeah, it's extremely.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Durable and from a retail perspective makes a lot of
sense for the di wire.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, that's been out just the three years or so
or with you guys, Yeah, yeah, I think the five years.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, the acquisition was was probably closer to five years ago.
But the we've improved on some of those products and
some of those items have been out just the last
few years.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Excellent, all right, JB weld In the website, they can
get more information.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
On absolutely jbwell dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Very good, Matt, thank you very much, Thank you appreciate it.
I'll tell you I told you go fast. I appreciate it.
We're at the Do It Best show in Indianapolis, and
we'll be here for about another half hour bringing in
some more guests. We'll get at them back from from
our friends at Dumont Global, and then we'll kind of
wrap things up. We got another half hour to go.
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We'll continue at Home with Garry Sullivan.
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thirty three minutes after the top of the Air at
Home with Gary Sullivan and uh well worth to do
it best show as I've been mentioning and interviewing different
companies that are here, and well, I'll tell you what
if there's a company that I've probably sent you to
for products, uh probably more than anybody else from day
one was quickly and joining me. Wow is Jeff Pott
(22:01):
from quick Creete. We can kind of catch up with
some of those concrete issues and we'll solve all the
world's problems. Welcome Jeff, Thanks for having me. Gary quite welcome, Geez.
I don't know where to start, but I'll start here.
We have cracks and concrete. We have spawling in concrete.
We'll get to that. But once we do all this
(22:23):
patching and all this calking, and we got to do
that because that's going to prevent the erosion from underneath
the slab and all that. But then we can see
all the patches in a lot of cases. I mean,
there's different coatings and stuff. But you guys got a
concrete resurfacer and it's advancing. It's getting better and better
(22:45):
and better. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
It is.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
So we came out many years ago with a quick
crete concrete resurfacer and it was designed for concrete that
is in good shape. It's sound but just needs a
little bit of surface renewal. Fairly easy to use. But
about five years ago we brought that product back into
our tech center's hands and said, let's improve it, and
they came out with a great product. It's called Recap
(23:10):
Concrete Resurfacer, and it's it's a little bit easier to use,
and the biggest benefit is is it's it's got a
stronger bond and that's the biggest thing key. It needs
to dig in and really bond to it because it's
such a thin surface and as we know in most
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and so having that stronger bond allows it to last
a really long time.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, new concrete and old concrete aren't very good friends.
They don't like to marry together very well, do they.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
They do not.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's a challenge.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Yeah, so you really do need you know, the biggest
thing is is the prep work as always, and so
using a thirty five hundred psi pressure washer and getting
anything loose out, really opening up those pores is the
most important thing. But again with our development, with that
bonding adhesive, you put those two together and you've got
a long lasting product.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's awesome. Let's walk through that whole process so people
know what they're getting into. But you know, it's the
only time you're ever able to recommend using a thirty
five hundred es i pressure washer is when you're going
to use the recap product. That's shit. Don't use it
on your deck, absolutely, Okay, I just want to make
sure everybody paid attention.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Sure, Sure, and again opening up those pores, you want
to get every square inch.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Sure, you know, with that pressure washer.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
And once you do that, you'd want to go back
and any chips or spawling or cracks, you'd want to
fix that first, and you can use that product.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
You would just mix it up a.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
Little bit thicker, go back with the trow and kind
of patch those areas, and then after that it's it's
pretty easy. You use a five gallon bucket.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's a powder.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
It's a powder. You add the water to it, use
a paddle mixer. You can use a cordless drill, but
of course a strong election, a.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Big drill around a big drill. Absolutely, sure mixer.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Sure it's going to be a pancake batter consistency.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Follow the direction, how much water?
Speaker 9 (25:08):
Absolutely, This is one that you definitely want to follow
all the directions absolutely. And by the way, this is
really the best time of year to do.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
It, Faull tall is the best time of.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
You sure really to fix anything outside when it's concrete based.
But after that, take a typical driveway at ten by
ten square might be twelve by twelve. Max is going
to be about twelve by twelve. Mix it up, pour
it out. Pancake batter consistency, Take a squeegee you're going
to squeegee it across that area that you've designated. Once
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it kind of goes from glossy to a matt finish,
it's ready to broom finish.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So you could use one of those broom squeegee things
that use for asphalt drive.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Sure, absolutely go ahead and put that broom finish on it,
just because you want some texture, just first slip resistance.
After that you're done. It is recommended to do two coats,
but one is okay, all right, and then you can
come back and seal it. If you would like color.
For example, let's say around a pool and you want
a charcoal or one of the five colors that quick
(26:13):
Crete has, that's an option, but you would add that
to the mixed water first.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Okay. I was gonna ask you about that, because you know,
we're talking to people in New York with a concrete
charcoal color, and Georgia it's red color, and out West
it's another color good and all those. Yeah, all right,
So you have the little tints. Do you have a recommendation?
I mean, because if once you did it, you better
(26:39):
know that formula.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Yes, So for us, let's say you're using five bags
and you're gonna use half a bottle in each bagh.
You would want to go ahead and mix all of
the colors or the total amount that you're using, and
let's say something that's divisible by five, or have any bag,
and then add that exact amount into each bag.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
As you do that way, you will have a very
consistent color.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You might know this tip. I'm betting you do.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But if you put the color in there and you
dip your finger in it, and you put it on
a piece of glass and then turn the glass over,
that's what it's gonna look like when it's dry.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
I did not know that you did. Again, I was telling.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Glad to offer something today.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Try it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You will be stunned next week. All that works, I
have no idea, but it will work, Okay. I tell
people all the time. You just dip it on air
and flip it over and take a look, and then
you could always go back and add five. You can't
take out you all right, right, right, you can always
add so okay, So it's called recap.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
It is called recap, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, we'll talk a little bit more about that vinyl
concrete patcher. Probably the staple of the line.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Tried and true.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, uh, powder mix it up for spawling, sure, a
lot of times caused by crumby concrete, a lot of
time caused by bad rock salt, and everybody seems to
have it.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
It's just it's inevitable. It's eventually going to happen.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah. Yeah, So the vinyl concrete patcher is the animal
for that, for patching that up.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
It really is, you know, developed many years ago, and
it's it's designed for those really thin you know, feather
edge up to a half inch in thickness uh self bonding. Yeah,
so not quite as much prep work as recap, but
you definitely want to dig out anything that's loose and
and have a nice strong, uh you know, hard surface
(28:34):
where you don't have anything loose that's gonna pop out.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Lad. That was probably one of the original patching cement
products on.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
The market, I believe it was.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody had the bag of sand
mix and the beg of concrete mix. But when they
came out quickly, when they came out with a vinyl
concrete patcher, it was the first time you could patch
in feather edge. She's a game change.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
It really was.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
And it's good for the DIY set because all you're
doing is adding water. It's got the strong bonding adhest
for in it. But even on the commercial side it
stands up and so it can be used practically anywhere.
You know, sidewalks, drivewayszontal horizontal surfaces, you got a.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
More mix for above head, right, we do, we do,
and that's easy to use, absolutely, and so we have
you know, many different types of products to repair mortar
joints as well.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
You know which it's inevitable as well. If you have
a house, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's got to crack.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Whether somebody say the only thing the concrete is guaranteed
to do is crack, Yes, that's true. And I get
people all the time. The slab of the driveway to
the garage floor, it settles, it pulls back. You got
a gap, you say, ten by ten blocks, twelve by
twelve blocks, the seams there, they're designed to crack there,
don't panic, absolutely, but not a bad idea to seal
(29:50):
those up either keep the water of it right.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Nope, nope, and that we have a great product for that.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
We have a ten ounce self leveling sealing and it's
advanced polymer formulas, so it skins over a little bit quicker,
so that way dustin de breed doesn't get anything or
you know, a kid or whatever else. So, but that's
one that bonds extremely well to concrete and so it
can expand out seven times its original set and then come.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Back good adhesion, good.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Adhesion, and so you're gonna get a lot of longevity
out of that product.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
And like you said, those.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
Control joints were meant to crack and they're gonna move,
and so you'd never want to fill in with something
that's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Right and you know, right, but good idea to seal
the much it is. So that's called self leveling cealing ceiling, yep.
And it's advanced resin because I talk about the your
thane also, sure, and I give people choices the your
thane great adhesion, great adhesion, great flexibility. Sure, kind of
hard to get it out of the cocky too. You
(30:52):
gotta have an industrial cocking you do.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
And you know it's not soap and water clean up,
so you don't want to get it. You know, once
it dries on your fingers, it's on there.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So is the advance resin taking the lead in the
horse race. It is all right, yeah, I'll change my
tas okay where they say your old school, you're not
going to change. But I had used the your THINGE
many many times. I've used the Advance Resident a couple
of times and I did like it better. Sure, it
was much easier.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Yeah, it's you know, it's just got a lot of
qualities that are better. And one of them is again
it's just sets a little bit quicker, uh, skins over
a little bit quicker, and then you know, voc a
little bit.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Well, it's kind of like if you buy calking before
you're painting a house. It's a difference between like a
your thane and an acrylic silk and ice cocking. Sure,
I mean that's you.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Know, what do you want to spend and how quickly
do you want to redo it?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
As of application? What was the one product I haven't
I can't think of it right now where you just
stack block. I've used this product a couple of times.
I love it, uh and use painting on.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
Sure, so it was designed to I stack block. No
mortar is in between, right, you would stuck over both
sides and it's four times stronger.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Than an order wall.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah. I used to talk about it all the time,
and so.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
It's not used quite for that application anymore. But I
would say ninety five percent of it is an old
basement where you've got, you know, especially an old rock foundation.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I have recommended, even though I can't think of the
name of it right now, I have recommended that for
even stairstep cracking a block foundation wall. Okay, we can
stop the water. We control the water outside straight wall. Sure,
what's the name of quick wall? Quick wall?
Speaker 8 (32:38):
I'm sorry I put you on the No, that was quick.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I just wasn't bringing it up. I hadn't talked about
it for a while. That probably I thought was amazing.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
It really is an amazing product.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
It's a waterproofer and a water water seiler, and it
will you know, hold back running water and really can stabilize.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Yeah, you know, a foundation that more.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Time stronger than a block wall. Now you're going to
have maybe three times more pushing on the outside of it. Well,
it's it's crack, But by golly, that's yeah, I think
I I declare that is the quick creed underduck.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
You know, we have it in our booth down here,
and we've talked about it many times today and it's
available in gray and white. And it's the polypropylene fibers
in there that really mesh together and kind of help
hold that hold that back.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Get those concrete driveway sealed. Now, if it's been five years,
what are I use on a concrete driveway?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
So it depends, you know, if you want to Matt finish,
if you're looking for a satin finish or a high gloss.
Really it's one of the most important things you can do,
right It just it seals that you know, it keeps
the water out, it keeps the salt from eroding and
getting in there, and you know the snow which will
be coming at some point.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes it will, Yes, it will. So get those driveways sealed,
no excuses.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Absolutely, that's an easy weekend project.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Way for an early football game, and then you can
do it in the evening when it's a little cooler.
One of a sure. All right, Hey, it's been a pleasure.
I appreciate you stopping buy and Quicker. It's always been
a product that has been close to my heart. I
talk about it a lot, and I appreciate you stopping
buy and you know, kind of saying, well, he's kind
of right.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
You are right now, kind of you're right, Thanks Gary.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Thank you, my friend. Take care all right. We'll take
a little break now and come back kind of wrap
things up for the day. And we are at to
do it best market in Indianapolis and talking to a
lot of the different folks here that supply the products
we use around our home. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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At the beginning of the show, we opened up with
my friend Adam from Dumont Global who is our host,
and we got to the end of it. We did that.
What a great day.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
It was a fun day, a great day for me,
great day for all these other manufacturers were able to
come in and talk about their products. Great that Jason
from Doett Best was able to come in kind of
you have a little background on and on their new direction.
You got the true value in their our own stores.
So yeah, it's it's it's fantastic. What a great day.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mentioned my engineer if he learned anything, and he
said yes, and he starts telling me he's got this
nineteen seventeen home and he's just bought some of the product.
Well and he and I was a little nervous. I said,
you gotta get a task kid. Yes, and he said, well,
I think it's only got one coat of paint on
her hard work.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's only one. If it's
that old, there's more than one code. Well, somebody met
beat him too. That's true, very true, very true. Then
you know that story I had with a few months ago.
We had a young lady w about one hundred and
ten year old farmhouse.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Right.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
We all thought it was going to be peel away,
it's going to be lead based paint down there, and
it ended up to be water based paint, and so
he didn't need to use the peel Away used advance and.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
You got this smart strip, okay. And I told him
if he wants to go run and get a test
hit real quick, that might be worth your while.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
I know a guy that can help you.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
So a lot of good information always comes out of
these shows, and that's one of the reasons I love
to go to them. And thank you very much for
having us out. It is a great time spending some
time with some of these folks. Some I knew, some
I had just met. And uh, that's kind of what
all these shows are really really about. We'll keep talking
about DuMond Global and all the you know, the different
(39:34):
paint strippers have been Again, I want to just caution
people if you have bought environmentally quote safe paint stripper
and it didn't work. I don't care what brand it is,
most brands just have one eyeem correct. You got the
wrong one right, right, right right? It's not gonna work. Yep.
Speaker 10 (39:54):
And you know, I like to say, with the water
based products that we have, right, so much more safer,
so much easier to clean, right, easier to.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Maintain, right, And you got to get the right one,
you do. That's why that's the way we see tests
to get that test and let put that paper on
there and let that bad boy cook. Yes, sure, that's sure,
he said. Six hundred thousand square foot at the show. Yes,
and he said he's kind of out growing it. They
really are. There was I don't know if there was
(40:21):
sixty thousand square foot when I first came to this.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Well, we're sitting I think in the original part of
the convention.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
It is, And that was it. That was it. Yeah,
you can tell by the lights. Right, Oh okay, all right, yeah,
I get it. I get it. I get it. So
what are you hearing from people stopping in? Just a
great show.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
You know, it's nice being able to talk to the
true value, the new true value people coming through. Sure,
they have a lot of questions to do a best members.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's great. I come here to sell, but really I
come here to teach well. And that's how you sel
I was told a long time ago, when I was
a very young man, that if you teach people well,
the sales will always take care of them. That is
so true, and it gives them the confidence to sell
my product. Right.
Speaker 10 (41:05):
So when a consumer comes into the store and the
person on the floor has the confidence in the products
they're selling. It makes much better relationship for us in
the store and the store and the end user.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah. Yeah, well some of the do it best stores too.
I mean they got some big, big stores. Yes, they
do huge stores and lumber yards. I mean, this isn't
people always you know they it's the Mom Paul local
hardware store. Well, they're the owner of this market that
we've been to. Hey, they are the owners who knows
(41:41):
local better than the local, right right exactly, So we
keep finding out. Yeah, and you know, they know their market,
they know their customer. They may have competition in the
way you know, the big box guys, but you know
they succeed because they are who they are, right right.
You know another thing before we leave, when we're talking
about the strippers, when you get into older homes and
(42:05):
let's say peel away test is the one that's saying
there's lead there. I always use the phrase, Adam, you
can get rid of it chemically or mechanically, right, but
you can't right when it's got lead in there. And
I don't think we I know we talk about we
legislate form, but I still don't think people really take
(42:27):
it as serious as they do when they hear asbestos,
but lead can do major damage to a human and
especially our young Youngerman's right, right, right.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
And you know, any organic paint that's older, the asbesos,
you know, lead based paints, things like that, they're not healthy,
especially if you're in an area that that's really older
paints chipping or coming off, it's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
All right. We'll leave it at d Thank you again
for having us. You certainly appreciate it. Danny Becken Studio,
thank you, Thank you for a great job today, mister Chris,
you're an engineer extraordinary. And with that, good Lord willing.
We'll be back next weekend for more. At Home with
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Well, the weekends upon us Welcome Aboard at Home with
Gary Salivin continuing our broadcast at Do It Best Moon
Global is our guest and our friend Adam Smith then
earlier talking about different types of paint strippers.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And we've had many guests. We have another guests. We
have David Schwabauer, good Irish.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Name, ayboy here of a product called flex Seal. No,
I never heard of it. I never heard of that.
Can you really patch your boat with that? With a
screen door? Yes you can?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And the boat and the boat is still there.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
All right, it's.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
In their their museum of all the different props that
Phil Swift has created for his commercial.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So tell me a little history of the product Flexeal.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, the company's started by Phil and Alan Swift. Phil
is the spokesperson you see on TV. I get a
lot of questions whether Phil works for the company. Phil
actually owns the company and starting it with his brother Alan.
All right, they started the company in twenty eleven. They
started with one commercial, which was the screen door on
the boat, and from there it's just kind of taken off.
(01:06):
I started with them in June of twenty eleven, and
we have taken a company from one product, flex Seal
spray in a black to a wide variety of products
that are can be used for many applications around the home.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
We're going to get into that. Is there a story
behind the invention of flexia, you know, like his boat
was sinking or.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, I think it was Phil was they had this
product from a previous company that he owned, and they
had this product that they knew they could do something
with it. So they worked with with the couple people
and somebody said, you know, you should do a commercial
on that, and they hooked him up with his Leman waterpotuff. Yeah,
(01:50):
and they came up with the idea of the boat
and the screen door, and they worked with a general gentleman,
great guy that did infomercial commercials, and they worked with
him and put together that first commercial good and it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Has just exploded from there.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And they're a great company, great family company, a lot
of family members involved in their day to day operations
of the company.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And it's awesome. That's awesome. So where do you hear
or where do you think.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
People use the flex seal product, the original one of
the spray and I know you haven't a can now
and everything else.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know, I think they're like with the spray, A
lot of people use it for gutters, they use it
for again, they'll use it for bird baths. We get
a lot of people use it where they get a
crack at a bird bath. We have so many different products
that solve and work with so many different applications that
it's we never get tired of hearing people telling us
(02:44):
how they use it, which, yeah, unbelievable. We get a
lot of people telling us and some of them were going,
really never.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thought of that.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, you know, it is amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So in thirty nine years of doing radio, I've talked
to so many people that have products, and it is
amazing how many people invent something for a specific use
and for the next thirty years they're learning about their product.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Because it's the truth. People will they go like, well,
I could work there.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, it is, it is. It is really an amazing company.
I tell people this that Phil is an entrepreneur, but
he's an inventor and he's a genius. And he says,
if you walked in his office today in Western Florida,
and you walked into his office and you looked that
he has a white a wall, a solid white wall
(03:35):
that's a white mark board, whiteboard, and there's probably fifty
projects that are ideas that he has for new products.
As an example, here at to Do at Best Show,
we're launching two new products. One product is a product
that has been around forever, but he has simplified it
and he's in his commercial that's running now on TV.
(03:56):
He shows consumers he answers a lot of questions, and
that's a POxy. When you go in a hardware store,
there's fifty brands of epoxy on the wall, and there's
one for plastic, there's one for wood, there's one for aluminum,
there's one you know, there's yeah epoxy, and it's confusing
for the consumer. It's a big category. It's confusing. So
(04:18):
Phil took us and simplified it, and he developed a
formula for a product that works on every application, so
it works on every surface. So he makes it easy
for the consumer, and he also been putting it on
TV and showing in the commercial he actually sews a
NASCAR race car in half and puts it back together
with epoxy. One drives it around the track at one
(04:40):
hundred and sixty hour. So then we're launching another product
which is weather stripping. Now, weather stripping has been around
a long time, but you have to you have to
peel it off or whatever it gets. It's hard to
get off, and so we came out with a silicone
based weather but it's only it. He's even on one
(05:01):
side and it's removable and it won't take the paint
off when you remove it. But you can use it
like on because of the way it's designed. It has
a flap on the bottom. So like you have a
shower door, which is a very common problemower door, so
you can put this and it it and then it
will just move with it because it works like like
this squeegee keeps the water from leaking out of the shower.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You can also then apply it to the windows so
you can open the window without removing the weather stripping.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You can win. Those are the hardest thing to find
weather stripping for Yeah, because all these manufacturers have their
own little bead that fits.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
In a channel. You don't need that, but you can't
use door weather stripping.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right correct, So he is he's taken again another product
that it addresses a need and solves a problem. So
that's what most of our products do. They address a
need and they solve a product, and it goes all
the way from the flexial spray and then then the
next day moved into the tape, which was huge when
(05:59):
he was oh, it's slapping it underwater. And then he
built another boat out of flex tape. And so every
product that we've brought to market solves it can be
used in conjunction also with each other. One of the
products that we launched a few years ago, it's not
for everybody in the United States, but it's big in
the Southeast. We have a product called Flexial Flood and
(06:23):
it addresses hurricanes and flooding, and it's it's all flexial
products that have been designed to be removed now so
you can apply it to the door, put it around your.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
See you're taking your front door and making it submarine.
Like yeah, absolutely saw the submarine in half.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So he literally and then when the storm is over,
you can remove it and it just peels right off.
So they have it in tape, spray and in a paste.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So does he do storm windows out of plastic with
that tape.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, you could put it on it, you could apply
it to any surface to keep the water.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Up of those plastic sheets with double sided tape that
you hit with a heat gun and make a storm window.
The only problem with those things is trying to get
that tape off the nightmare.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Right, and this tape is removable, it is. And so
those are you know board.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Will you okay, puts next to it.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'll make sure, well put something on there. Uh, he is,
but he's constantly. So we're launching two new products here,
and the TV commercials now running on national television, and
he's and we're running commercials on the flex Seal spray,
which is the flagship of the brand and has been
around from day one, and we still you know, you
(07:44):
can buy Flex Seal products at virtually every hardware store
in the United States, no matter what brand they are
with it be a do it Best at ACE Hardware,
True Value and independent non affiliated hardware store. You can
also buy it at the large home centers. You can
buy it at the large discount man.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So well, it's it's like a cleanex brand now, I
mean it really is. I mean people refer to any
type of tar like spray see on his Flex Seal.
I mean it's become the name of the product.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And the new tagline is it really works? We hit
asked all the.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Time, does it really do?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Is sure, and we will put on the tagline as
it really works.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It does really work.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And I'm assuming that that is available everywhere, and we
know it's available to do it best stores, but pretty
much everywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's available virtually everywhere. It's even at gas stations.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, So they do sell it everywhere, all right. And
the ego website for that Flex Seal dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's uh, it's gets flex Seal Products dot com. You
can just google flex. The easiest way is the Google
flex feel and it'll pop up. There's a lot of
how to videos on YouTube, a lot of video how
to videos out there on how to use the products.
So we encourage people. We put QR codes on our products.
They can scan it. Take some right to perfect perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So if you got something leaky or drippy, you might
want to pick up some of the flex sewer, take
a look at the website. Might be a newer product
that fits your problem perfectly. Well.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Shop at your locally owned hardware store. There you go,
they'll help for all products.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right, David, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I appreciate it, you bet you. All right, We'll take
a little break and we'll continue our show from the
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we'd be chatting some more. And it's a sticky situation
when all you do is talk about glues. I'll tell
you you think I'm kidding. Matt Walke, he is my guest.
He is would jab Weld a name we've all heard of,
And I'll tell you what. Let's talk about some glues.
We were talking, just chatting about epoxies. There's all different
(12:31):
types of epoxies and applicators. And a POxy is two part, right,
That's what epoxy means, two part. So you got a
resin and you got a hardener, and you'd think that's
all you know, straightforward, And you know the tube of
apoxy comes with two little tubes. You square down on
a paper plate, you pull out your toothpache, you start around.
(12:53):
But that's not very scientific. So you've got ways to
apply an epoxy cract. It's correct.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, and thank you for having me, Gary. I appreciate
you having me on the show. Ultimately, epoxy is, as
you mentioned, a two part system, and you know, the
goal when you're applying it is prepping the you know,
the surface in whatever way necessary, ensuring there's no debris
or anything like that, and and mixing the parts one
to one. That's another common issue. They don't use enough hardener.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh yeah, that's why I'm saying. That's squirting it in
the paper place. Not very scientific.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Yeah yeah, and we've improved on that by adding auto
mixing or static mixing syringes where it comes out one.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Very cool. I got a bunch of them in work.
I mean it is it is a syringe and it's
got the apoc chae on one side, hardener in the other,
or the hardener in the resin. They're separate. You squeeze,
they come out equal amounts yep, yep.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
So it kind of takes in eliminates the the user error.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I call that. There you go. It's it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
so that's good. And you also have them where you've
got a fast dry versus a longer so you got
a five minute of epoxy.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Yeah yeah, we actually have an instant epoxy now that
it's it's just two minutes. But the goal is we
want to trade people up from the old school superglues
that they're used to using that has, you know, more
of a brittle overall adhesion. Epoxy, as you know, is permanent.
So by by kind of moving them up into an
epoxy or trying epoxy for the first time, we think
(14:24):
the consumer will have a better all, better overall user experience.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I couldn't agree with you more. I mean I couldn't
agree with you more. And we'll talk. I know you
guys have like a super glue be too super glue,
But when that started being marketed, probably early mid eighties,
it was the end all to everything. You're never gonna
need anything else. You just put a little able to
(14:49):
do you. I think it came out of the dental field,
isn't it for gluing pieces of teeth or tooth back
on your on your tooth.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I think that is where it originated.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
It and the superglue that we actually offers super blue
these days that that is UV activated and that's similar
to the superglues that they use in the dineral fields.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ential.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Yeah, so it's full circle. It really does, absolutely full circle.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So back to the epos you get, you just got
bear with Joe all over. Oh no. Yeah. So if
you move them up to an epoxy, you've got an
adhesive that's got more guts to it, it's got more body,
it's more pliable, more workable.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Absolutely, you you have more open time, you can you
can get things placed where you need them to be,
and it's permanent.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
At JB Weld, we we do. We do say that.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
You know, we have the world's strongest bonds. The products
that we make are the strongest and that's what we.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Do with that. I mean, it's a quality product, it's
a great product, it's wonderful product.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
With Within the retail market, we do have about eighty
six percent market share.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
So people people resonate out there.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
People resonate with the brand, They trust the brand and
uh and that's why you see us in over one
hundred thousand retail outlets.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I guess you use the non five. I want everything
done fast, probably most people do. I like the two
minute thing. I don't know if I can move that fast,
but you gotta be careful. U two mid five minute? Uh,
they still have the long form and I guess you
gotta clamp that and probably for specific projects.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, a lot of those applications are in the automotive
side where you know you're you're using them in ways
that are going to add structural integrity, et cetera. Four
to six hours, then it's full twenty four hour cure.
But those those harden as strong as metal. A lot
of them do have metal within the product, and it'll
take a magnet so you can tap them.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
They are very permanent fixes.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Any substrate I'm thinking out loud, so correct me if
I'm wrong, will accept in epoxy, right, I mean I
think a brick and wood, get concrete and absolutely, And
I mean I can't think of you know, maybe not paper,
so correct a napkin together or anything, but you can try. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah, overall, Yeah, we we have epoxyes for every substrate,
everything from plastic to metal to glass, concrete, et cetera. Yeah,
every every every substrate covered and we try to make
it easy by having.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Products specific substrate application.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So well, we got about a minute and a half.
And I know pickup trucks are popular in JB world
has a bedliner we do.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Uh years ago we purchased Turkey Liner, an acquisition of ours,
and we've improved on some of their items. Made a
two k POxy bedliner that that we that we sell
into the retail channel. But it's a two part system,
just like our epoxy.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We do have have a pickup so we have a roll.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
On version and then we also have a spray on
version that is a two part version that is mixed
and sprayed on with an air compressor.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Nice. Yeah, it's extremely.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Durable and from a retail perspective makes a lot of
sense for the di wire.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, that's been out just the three years or so
or with you guys, Yeah, yeah, I think the five years.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, the acquisition was was probably closer to five years ago.
But the we've improved on some of those products and
some of those items have been out just the last
few years.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Excellent, all right, JB weld In the website, they can
get more information.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
On absolutely jbwell dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Very good, Matt, thank you very much, Thank you appreciate it.
I'll tell you I told you go fast. I appreciate it.
We're at the Do It Best show in Indianapolis, and
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thirty three minutes after the top of the Air at
Home with Gary Sullivan and uh well worth to do
it best show as I've been mentioning and interviewing different
companies that are here, and well, I'll tell you what
if there's a company that I've probably sent you to
for products, uh probably more than anybody else from day
one was quickly and joining me. Wow is Jeff Pott
(22:01):
from quick Creete. We can kind of catch up with
some of those concrete issues and we'll solve all the
world's problems. Welcome Jeff, Thanks for having me. Gary quite welcome, Geez.
I don't know where to start, but I'll start here.
We have cracks and concrete. We have spawling in concrete.
We'll get to that. But once we do all this
(22:23):
patching and all this calking, and we got to do
that because that's going to prevent the erosion from underneath
the slab and all that. But then we can see
all the patches in a lot of cases. I mean,
there's different coatings and stuff. But you guys got a
concrete resurfacer and it's advancing. It's getting better and better
(22:45):
and better. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
It is.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
So we came out many years ago with a quick
crete concrete resurfacer and it was designed for concrete that
is in good shape. It's sound but just needs a
little bit of surface renewal. Fairly easy to use. But
about five years ago we brought that product back into
our tech center's hands and said, let's improve it, and
they came out with a great product. It's called Recap
(23:10):
Concrete Resurfacer, and it's it's a little bit easier to use,
and the biggest benefit is is it's it's got a
stronger bond and that's the biggest thing key. It needs
to dig in and really bond to it because it's
such a thin surface and as we know in most
of the country, weather plays a big factor freestall snow,
(23:33):
and so having that stronger bond allows it to last
a really long time.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, new concrete and old concrete aren't very good friends.
They don't like to marry together very well, do they.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
They do not.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's a challenge.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Yeah, so you really do need you know, the biggest
thing is is the prep work as always, and so
using a thirty five hundred psi pressure washer and getting
anything loose out, really opening up those pores is the
most important thing. But again with our development, with that
bonding adhesive, you put those two together and you've got
a long lasting product.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's awesome. Let's walk through that whole process so people
know what they're getting into. But you know, it's the
only time you're ever able to recommend using a thirty
five hundred es i pressure washer is when you're going
to use the recap product. That's shit. Don't use it
on your deck, absolutely, Okay, I just want to make
sure everybody paid attention.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Sure, Sure, and again opening up those pores, you want
to get every square inch.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Sure, you know, with that pressure washer.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
And once you do that, you'd want to go back
and any chips or spawling or cracks, you'd want to
fix that first, and you can use that product.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
You would just mix it up a.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
Little bit thicker, go back with the trow and kind
of patch those areas, and then after that it's it's
pretty easy. You use a five gallon bucket.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's a powder.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
It's a powder. You add the water to it, use
a paddle mixer. You can use a cordless drill, but
of course a strong election, a.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Big drill around a big drill. Absolutely, sure mixer.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Sure it's going to be a pancake batter consistency.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Follow the direction, how much water?
Speaker 9 (25:08):
Absolutely, This is one that you definitely want to follow
all the directions absolutely. And by the way, this is
really the best time of year to do.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
It, Faull tall is the best time of.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
You sure really to fix anything outside when it's concrete based.
But after that, take a typical driveway at ten by
ten square might be twelve by twelve. Max is going
to be about twelve by twelve. Mix it up, pour
it out. Pancake batter consistency, Take a squeegee you're going
to squeegee it across that area that you've designated. Once
(25:41):
it kind of goes from glossy to a matt finish,
it's ready to broom finish.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So you could use one of those broom squeegee things
that use for asphalt drive.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Sure, absolutely go ahead and put that broom finish on it,
just because you want some texture, just first slip resistance.
After that you're done. It is recommended to do two coats,
but one is okay, all right, and then you can
come back and seal it. If you would like color.
For example, let's say around a pool and you want
a charcoal or one of the five colors that quick
(26:13):
Crete has, that's an option, but you would add that
to the mixed water first.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Okay. I was gonna ask you about that, because you know,
we're talking to people in New York with a concrete
charcoal color, and Georgia it's red color, and out West
it's another color good and all those. Yeah, all right,
So you have the little tints. Do you have a recommendation?
I mean, because if once you did it, you better
(26:39):
know that formula.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Yes, So for us, let's say you're using five bags
and you're gonna use half a bottle in each bagh.
You would want to go ahead and mix all of
the colors or the total amount that you're using, and
let's say something that's divisible by five, or have any bag,
and then add that exact amount into each bag.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
As you do that way, you will have a very
consistent color.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You might know this tip. I'm betting you do.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Well, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But if you put the color in there and you
dip your finger in it, and you put it on
a piece of glass and then turn the glass over,
that's what it's gonna look like when it's dry.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
I did not know that you did. Again, I was telling.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Glad to offer something today.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Try it.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You will be stunned next week. All that works, I
have no idea, but it will work, Okay. I tell
people all the time. You just dip it on air
and flip it over and take a look, and then
you could always go back and add five. You can't
take out you all right, right, right, you can always
add so okay, So it's called recap.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
It is called recap, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, we'll talk a little bit more about that vinyl
concrete patcher. Probably the staple of the line.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Tried and true.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, uh, powder mix it up for spawling, sure, a
lot of times caused by crumby concrete, a lot of
time caused by bad rock salt, and everybody seems to
have it.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
It's just it's inevitable. It's eventually going to happen.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah. Yeah, So the vinyl concrete patcher is the animal
for that, for patching that up.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
It really is, you know, developed many years ago, and
it's it's designed for those really thin you know, feather
edge up to a half inch in thickness uh self bonding. Yeah,
so not quite as much prep work as recap, but
you definitely want to dig out anything that's loose and
and have a nice strong, uh you know, hard surface
(28:34):
where you don't have anything loose that's gonna pop out.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Lad. That was probably one of the original patching cement
products on.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
The market, I believe it was.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody had the bag of sand
mix and the beg of concrete mix. But when they
came out quickly, when they came out with a vinyl
concrete patcher, it was the first time you could patch
in feather edge. She's a game change.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
It really was.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
And it's good for the DIY set because all you're
doing is adding water. It's got the strong bonding adhest
for in it. But even on the commercial side it
stands up and so it can be used practically anywhere.
You know, sidewalks, drivewayszontal horizontal surfaces, you got a.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
More mix for above head, right, we do, we do,
and that's easy to use, absolutely, and so we have
you know, many different types of products to repair mortar
joints as well.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
You know which it's inevitable as well. If you have
a house, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's got to crack.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Whether somebody say the only thing the concrete is guaranteed
to do is crack, Yes, that's true. And I get
people all the time. The slab of the driveway to
the garage floor, it settles, it pulls back. You got
a gap, you say, ten by ten blocks, twelve by
twelve blocks, the seams there, they're designed to crack there,
don't panic, absolutely, but not a bad idea to seal
(29:50):
those up either keep the water of it right.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Nope, nope, and that we have a great product for that.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
We have a ten ounce self leveling sealing and it's
advanced polymer formulas, so it skins over a little bit quicker,
so that way dustin de breed doesn't get anything or
you know, a kid or whatever else. So, but that's
one that bonds extremely well to concrete and so it
can expand out seven times its original set and then come.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Back good adhesion, good.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Adhesion, and so you're gonna get a lot of longevity
out of that product.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
And like you said, those.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
Control joints were meant to crack and they're gonna move,
and so you'd never want to fill in with something
that's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Right and you know, right, but good idea to seal
the much it is. So that's called self leveling cealing ceiling, yep.
And it's advanced resin because I talk about the your
thane also, sure, and I give people choices the your
thane great adhesion, great adhesion, great flexibility. Sure, kind of
hard to get it out of the cocky too. You
(30:52):
gotta have an industrial cocking you do.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
And you know it's not soap and water clean up,
so you don't want to get it. You know, once
it dries on your fingers, it's on there.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So is the advance resin taking the lead in the
horse race. It is all right, yeah, I'll change my
tas okay where they say your old school, you're not
going to change. But I had used the your THINGE
many many times. I've used the Advance Resident a couple
of times and I did like it better. Sure, it
was much easier.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Yeah, it's you know, it's just got a lot of
qualities that are better. And one of them is again
it's just sets a little bit quicker, uh, skins over
a little bit quicker, and then you know, voc a
little bit.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Well, it's kind of like if you buy calking before
you're painting a house. It's a difference between like a
your thane and an acrylic silk and ice cocking. Sure,
I mean that's you.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Know, what do you want to spend and how quickly
do you want to redo it?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
As of application? What was the one product I haven't
I can't think of it right now where you just
stack block. I've used this product a couple of times.
I love it, uh and use painting on.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
Sure, so it was designed to I stack block. No
mortar is in between, right, you would stuck over both
sides and it's four times stronger.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Than an order wall.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah. I used to talk about it all the time,
and so.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
It's not used quite for that application anymore. But I
would say ninety five percent of it is an old
basement where you've got, you know, especially an old rock foundation.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I have recommended, even though I can't think of the
name of it right now, I have recommended that for
even stairstep cracking a block foundation wall. Okay, we can
stop the water. We control the water outside straight wall. Sure,
what's the name of quick wall? Quick wall?
Speaker 8 (32:38):
I'm sorry I put you on the No, that was quick.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I just wasn't bringing it up. I hadn't talked about
it for a while. That probably I thought was amazing.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
It really is an amazing product.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
It's a waterproofer and a water water seiler, and it
will you know, hold back running water and really can stabilize.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Yeah, you know, a foundation that more.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Time stronger than a block wall. Now you're going to
have maybe three times more pushing on the outside of it. Well,
it's it's crack, But by golly, that's yeah, I think
I I declare that is the quick creed underduck.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
You know, we have it in our booth down here,
and we've talked about it many times today and it's
available in gray and white. And it's the polypropylene fibers
in there that really mesh together and kind of help
hold that hold that back.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Get those concrete driveway sealed. Now, if it's been five years,
what are I use on a concrete driveway?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
So it depends, you know, if you want to Matt finish,
if you're looking for a satin finish or a high gloss.
Really it's one of the most important things you can do,
right It just it seals that you know, it keeps
the water out, it keeps the salt from eroding and
getting in there, and you know the snow which will
be coming at some point.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yes it will, Yes, it will. So get those driveways sealed,
no excuses.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Absolutely, that's an easy weekend project.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Way for an early football game, and then you can
do it in the evening when it's a little cooler.
One of a sure. All right, Hey, it's been a pleasure.
I appreciate you stopping buy and Quicker. It's always been
a product that has been close to my heart. I
talk about it a lot, and I appreciate you stopping
buy and you know, kind of saying, well, he's kind
of right.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
You are right now, kind of you're right, Thanks Gary.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Thank you, my friend. Take care all right. We'll take
a little break now and come back kind of wrap
things up for the day. And we are at to
do it best market in Indianapolis and talking to a
lot of the different folks here that supply the products
we use around our home. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
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(37:40):
today and I appreciate you listening. If you miss parts
of it, I hope you circle back and get the podcast. Well.
At the beginning of the show, we opened up with
my friend Adam from Dumont Global who is our host,
and we got to the end of it. We did that.
What a great day.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
It was a fun day, a great day for me,
great day for all these other manufacturers were able to
come in and talk about their products. Great that Jason
from Doett Best was able to come in kind of
you have a little background on and on their new direction.
You got the true value in their our own stores.
So yeah, it's it's it's fantastic. What a great day.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I mentioned my engineer if he learned anything, and he
said yes, and he starts telling me he's got this
nineteen seventeen home and he's just bought some of the product.
Well and he and I was a little nervous. I said,
you gotta get a task kid. Yes, and he said, well,
I think it's only got one coat of paint on
her hard work.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's only one. If it's
that old, there's more than one code. Well, somebody met
beat him too. That's true, very true, very true. Then
you know that story I had with a few months ago.
We had a young lady w about one hundred and
ten year old farmhouse.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Right.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
We all thought it was going to be peel away,
it's going to be lead based paint down there, and
it ended up to be water based paint, and so
he didn't need to use the peel Away used advance and.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
You got this smart strip, okay. And I told him
if he wants to go run and get a test
hit real quick, that might be worth your while.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
I know a guy that can help you.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
So a lot of good information always comes out of
these shows, and that's one of the reasons I love
to go to them. And thank you very much for
having us out. It is a great time spending some
time with some of these folks. Some I knew, some
I had just met. And uh, that's kind of what
all these shows are really really about. We'll keep talking
about DuMond Global and all the you know, the different
(39:34):
paint strippers have been Again, I want to just caution
people if you have bought environmentally quote safe paint stripper
and it didn't work. I don't care what brand it is,
most brands just have one eyeem correct. You got the
wrong one right, right, right right? It's not gonna work. Yep.
Speaker 10 (39:54):
And you know, I like to say, with the water
based products that we have, right, so much more safer,
so much easier to clean, right, easier to.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Maintain, right, And you got to get the right one,
you do. That's why that's the way we see tests
to get that test and let put that paper on
there and let that bad boy cook. Yes, sure, that's sure,
he said. Six hundred thousand square foot at the show. Yes,
and he said he's kind of out growing it. They
really are. There was I don't know if there was
(40:21):
sixty thousand square foot when I first came to this.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Well, we're sitting I think in the original part of
the convention.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
It is, And that was it. That was it. Yeah,
you can tell by the lights. Right, Oh okay, all right, yeah,
I get it. I get it. I get it. So
what are you hearing from people stopping in? Just a
great show.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
You know, it's nice being able to talk to the
true value, the new true value people coming through. Sure,
they have a lot of questions to do a best members.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It's great. I come here to sell, but really I
come here to teach well. And that's how you sel
I was told a long time ago, when I was
a very young man, that if you teach people well,
the sales will always take care of them. That is
so true, and it gives them the confidence to sell
my product. Right.
Speaker 10 (41:05):
So when a consumer comes into the store and the
person on the floor has the confidence in the products
they're selling. It makes much better relationship for us in
the store and the store and the end user.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah. Yeah, well some of the do it best stores too.
I mean they got some big, big stores. Yes, they
do huge stores and lumber yards. I mean, this isn't
people always you know they it's the Mom Paul local
hardware store. Well, they're the owner of this market that
we've been to. Hey, they are the owners who knows
(41:41):
local better than the local, right right exactly, So we
keep finding out. Yeah, and you know, they know their market,
they know their customer. They may have competition in the
way you know, the big box guys, but you know
they succeed because they are who they are, right right.
You know another thing before we leave, when we're talking
about the strippers, when you get into older homes and
(42:05):
let's say peel away test is the one that's saying
there's lead there. I always use the phrase, Adam, you
can get rid of it chemically or mechanically, right, but
you can't right when it's got lead in there. And
I don't think we I know we talk about we
legislate form, but I still don't think people really take
(42:27):
it as serious as they do when they hear asbestos,
but lead can do major damage to a human and
especially our young Youngerman's right, right, right.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
And you know, any organic paint that's older, the asbesos,
you know, lead based paints, things like that, they're not healthy,
especially if you're in an area that that's really older
paints chipping or coming off, it's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
All right. We'll leave it at d Thank you again
for having us. You certainly appreciate it. Danny Becken Studio,
thank you, Thank you for a great job today, mister Chris,
you're an engineer extraordinary. And with that, good Lord willing.
We'll be back next weekend for more. At Home with
Gary Solivan.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
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