October 18, 2025 • 40 mins
Wrapping up Saturday with your calls. We also hear from Precision Pipe Works.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, the best time of the day. I get us
sickod afternoon and welcome. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
And I know there's no armadillos in Ohio, but it
was kind of interesting reading about them during the break.
Sounds to me like armadillo is not that we'll probably
have them for a while, but sounds like a mixture
of skunks and moles. And because they're talking about keeping
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them away from decking underneath decks, you got to put
in a barrier like a underground fence. When I say moles,
mixed castor oil with water spray around the yard. Sometimes
the smells will repel them live traps. And then it
goes back to the old remedy. Wildlife control services. They've
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got the equipment and knowledge to safely remove armadillos. I
wonder if our friend Ron Krueger at A one pest
or ay one wildlife control out of the Actor area
has ever removed in Armadillo. I have to check with them.
But anyway, they they're burrowers. They go at night, and
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so anyway, that's interesting that they're in Missouri. That is interesting,
all right. Our phone number is eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five and Mark, you're Batten. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hey Gary, Yes, I have a question for you, and
it's regarding a new home construction we want to do
next year, and my question is regarding heating system. So
we currently have a home as a natural gas fired
gas spoiler with a hydraunic heating system. Very happy with
I like it. The only drawback is the you know,
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the central air. You have to figure out how to
do that. And we did a space pack a mini
duct system right in the new home I don't have
I'm not going to have access to natural gas, only
electric or propane. So you know, my question is, you
know what seems to be the most efficient and comfortable
you know these days? Is it going to be more
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of an electric heat pomp with a propane backup?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, tough to answer because of the whole demand for electricity.
I'm sure you've been reading about it, and a lot
of it is just with all the data and the
computer servers. My daughter's kind of involved in that industry
and she was explaining to me that what a huge,
massive problem that is. One of the things that she
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was also talking about is and it would make sense
for you to explore this, it would be like geo thermal.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Heating, right, a closed loop system.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, so it sounds like you have thought of that.
So forecasting in the future can be tricky. In fact,
when I started radio forty years ago, is my first
question is should I put in electric or gash? Which
one should I do? And you know, at that point
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it was go gas, you know, go gas, And now
the pricing is is pretty comparable. There's it's a push.
I don't know about the future, and I'm talking about
the you know, with a new home, you really got
to be looking much more in the future. And so
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I would still say, you know, I would still lean
towards gas or pro pane, but the cost of electricity
down the road and maybe even the scarcity of it
might be an issue. So I'm starting to think maybe
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geothermoa take a look.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
At Yeah, I mean, what do you think about the
same thing with a hydraunic system but with a propane
fired boiler.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess yes would be an answer.
I guess where I'm going on is I haven't done
a study between all three mark, and I'd hate to say, yeah,
just go this way or that way. I would say
a pro pain like you were speaking of, would be
certainly one I would investigate. I would also investigate, you know,
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the geothermal, and then take a look at the electricity,
and then kind of look at where you are today
and really working with someone that's really in the industry.
I know, Train, they're they're spinning off different things where
they're really doing I don't want to use the word
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carbon neutral, but it's just they're doing a lot of
developments on what is the next big th in other words,
what are we where should we be going? And so
maybe talking with a train dealer on your options there
and comparing those and they may have a lot on
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their website. I haven't checked, but I think you've got
to look at all of the above, which is kind
of what you're doing, but really dealing with the data
and long range data which is going to be difficult.
So finding somebody that's kind of on the cutting edge
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of that, and from what I can see right now,
it would probably be train and maybe trained dealers can
help you a little bit more with that, but I
think I would be intrigued. You know, we were pretty
gun ho on the whole geothermal thing about twenty twenty
five years ago and it seemed to have lost a
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lot of momentum, but I feel that's coming.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Back if you go a you know, hydraunic system. What
about Central Air again, is there anything that's changed out there?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, I think you're what did you use the phrase
before the mini.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
The mini death systems like stay back? Is actually the
comp that makes that and they don't have to duplicate
registers and that right.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Right, No, I still think that's the way to go.
I do think that is the way to go. I
don't think there's anything much more advanced than that, right now.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, all right, Well thank you for I hope I
helped a little.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, all right, thanks, thanks.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Take care. It's good to Mike, Mike, welcome.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I got two questions, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
One is when is.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Uh I only caught the end of the order exit interview?
Did she claimed that that worked really good on cat oders?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah? It does, and she's I've been talking to her
and she has been a sponsor show I'm going to
Guess twenty some years, so I'm pretty familiar with it.
And she's got some great stories to prove her point.
And with the Cats, there was one woman I'll just
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repeat a story, then I'll give you some tips. She
was talking about this lady who had a lot of
cats and in a condo to a point where she
was going to be evicted or get rid of all
the cats. And it was the smell in that was
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so strong it's permeating the other units and everything else.
It was a disaster. And this lady called her up
and they did rectify the situation. She had to get
rid of the cats, but literally they had no idea
how they're going to clean us up. And the older
exit eliminator on multiple applications eliminated the smell where she
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could stay and other people stayed and all that. The
secret for you and I to use that in our
home in any case, whether it's a strong or mild case,
is to identify where it's aid. I think I don't
know what part of the interview you said the end.
I don't know where we talked about it. She was
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talking about identifying where it is. Cats can use your
couch as a litter box. They could use the corner
where the carpet is is a litter box. There could
be spray on the wall in the corner, So you
got to get it all, okay. So she has a
black light or any black light will work. She has
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a little flashlight that is a black light. It glows okay,
and then you know where it is.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now on the subject of shingles, Oh wait, on the
odor exit, do you have to pull the carpet up
and do the floor as well, or we'll go right
through the pad and all that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, it depends, right, I mean, And she said in
the corner she would pull the carpet up because that's
usually a prime spot. So if you if you see
a lot of you know, cat urine in that area,
she felt it would be best to pull the carpet up,
spray the pad, spray the floor because it's got to
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be it's kind of got to be saturated. Now, the
floor is probably protected with a eurothane or ovarni, so
it may not have penetrated in the floor, but certainly
the pad. So you got to wet that area down thoroughly.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Okay. Now on shingles, don't they make like a glue
where you can just resand and glue the sand under
the shingles without replacing them.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
They have a product that can be sprayed over a
granular covered shingle that will stop the decay of the
shingle and the loosening of the granules. I don't know
where you could actually add granules to it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Well, they must make a glue that you could put
on the shingles and then anything that sticks to it.
Don't you think that would protect them?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, I don't sand. Well, I don't know that. I
don't know that, and it's it is a sealant, but
I don't know if it's a glue. In other words,
I hear what you're saying, and I know what they
tell me. So it is a sealant that is sprayed
over and resisting shingle and fortifies the granular granular material
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that's on the shingle itself. In fact, when I talk
to their technology departments and asking them questions, I asked them,
can you do all roofs And the answer was no.
We look at the roof and we determine how much
what stated decay decay it is in and if we
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can do it, there's enough on that shingle, we'll do
it and guarantee it for five years. So they didn't
talk to me about adding material. I don't know the
grains that are on the shingle themselves. If it is
just sand, it's a protectant. But I don't know if
it's sand, So I just just don't know, to be
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honest with you, Mike. When I've seen it, it's very thin.
I don't think you'd be able to throw sand on
there and have it stick, and I don't think it'd match.
And I think there's a multitude of issues at that.
All right, we'll continue with your calls. You're at home
with Gary Sullivan right here on fifty five K see
de talk station. All right, back here we go at
home with Gary Sullivan, coming up at the bottom of
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the hour. And this might be interest to a lot
of people. And that is our waistline that goes from
our house out to the sewer system. We have different
ages of homes, of course, with some brand new ones
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back in the thirties, twenties, fifties, sixties. In a lot
of cases we have the wistlines that aren't as good
as they are today. We have clay pipes with seams,
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we have a lot of clay soil routes, we have
heavy rains, we have a lot of ground movement, and
those pipes become compromised. That's one issue. When they become compromised.
We have a tendency to get tree roots into the
seams of those pipes, which are little tentacles that collect
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gunk in a waistline, and sometimes those seams are separated,
sometimes they're cracks. Sometimes it's just they're great pipes. But
we get accumulation of wipes and different things that go
down the toilet, and really, you know, many of us
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almost need grinder pumps to get that liquefied before going
down the toilet. It's becoming a problem. We'll talk to
some folks that are going to talk about that, and
we're also going to talk about what happens when it's
such a problem that you're told that pipe needs to
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be replaced. That's a big problem. There's newer technology that's
being used where they actually use i'll call it a
bladder through that pipe, and we're going to have that
whole discussion at the bottom of the hour. In the meantime,
one of the earlier callers today, and when I first
started the show, I talked about gutters and all the
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leaves they're changing their beginning to follow, et cetera, et cetera.
You promise yourself that you're going to clean that out,
and you're going to put a hose down the down spot,
and you're going to make sure that water's exiting away
from the house. And then we had somebody who was
going to tackle the job of installing his own gutters,
which is fine, but he was asking about the slope
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on the gutters. So he wasn't experienced hanging gutters. That
doesn't mean you can't do it. You just got to
know some information on how to do it. And the
slope is key, which also kind of ties in to
the first part of the show that we were talking about.
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So then the slope on a gutter is usually and
I'd said, a quarter of an inch drop for every
ten foot of gutter. So if you got a twenty
foot length, it's a half inch forty foot, it's a
whole inch from the high end to the down spout. Obviously,
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the slope is always towards the down spout. So the
best way to do it is and I was talking
to him about brackets. He wasn't sure about the brackets.
He was going to overlap the gutters. There's brackets, there's
a coupler and there's not necessarily the use of a
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farrow and nail anymore. We have brackets that go underneath
the gutter, so you can start at the high point
and the low point to get your slope and a
chalk line and install your brackets to hold the gutter.
That's how you're gonna get your slope, which kind of
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reminded me of the first part of the show when
I talked about let's clean that gutter out, let's make
sure the water's running to the downspout, make sure the
water is going away from the foundation, whether underground or
above ground, which got me kind of thinking, I wonder
if anybody is concerned or has checked the slope on
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your existing gutters, because a lot of gutters. In fact,
a house just across thet from me the other day
it was having their gut new gutters put on. And
with the amount of downpours that we've had this year,
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and I'm getting a lot of calls across the country
about this issue. A heavy rain is a heavy rain now,
and there seems to be more of them, and we
see to seem to have more run off over the
gutters than I ever remember talking to homeowners about and
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I'm always talking. When I started doing a show many
moons ago, a lot of people had four inch gutters,
and now the standard is pretty much five. But I'm
also having a lot of people talking to me about
six inch gutters. And today the light bulb went off
and thought, one thing I haven't really ask them is
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if you checked the slope on your gutters, right, So,
if you have a steep roof and five inch gutters
used to carry that away. Yeah, and maybe the excessive
amount of rain that we have been having over the
last five ten years, especially especially five, maybe you do
need a six inch gutter or maybe that five inch gutter.
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I don't know. Maybe that slope isn't what it used
to be. And you know, putting a level on that
gutter would probably tell you what kind of slope you have.
I mean, you don't want it where that bubble is
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in the middle of the level. You know, the bubbles
right in the middle of the range. It should be
a little outside of it. I'm sure we can find
out exactly how much, but I'm gonna guess probably an
eighth of that bubble should be sticking out of the
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level range and you would probably be good. But if
you put that level up there, and that baby's right
in the middle, it's a level. There's your problem. You know,
it's not so much the size of the gutter. You've
lost the slope on that And how's that happen? Well,
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especially in older gutters, you didn't have brackets. You literally
had a nail and a farrell or a screw and
a farll or nine ten inches long, and it's you know,
it's just screwed into the faciant. Hopefully something behind that,
but not always, and it just kind of segs and
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we start not having a slope. So when you're cleaning
them out and you're testing the slope and you're testing
the water, how that's flowing. Not a bad idea. Get
a level up there and check and make sure we
have that proper slope on that gutter. All right, we'll
take a break. We'll come back and we'll talk a
little bit about wastelines as we continue at home with
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Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care see de
talk station. All right, back at it we go. A
lovely day, a little windy, nice and warm out there,
though it rains on its way later tonight Tomorrow looks
like a wash out and temperature's fallen. Most of the day.
We've been talking to home improvement covering a lot of ground.
We're going to cover a trenchless sewer and drain repair.
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Precision Pipeworks is the name of the company. Dave Crook
is a gentleman I'm talking to and Dave welcome that
home with Gary Salvn. How you do today?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Good Gary?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
How are you doing fine? So I guess before we
get rolling, first explain what a trenchless sewer and drain
repair is.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Trenchless sewer so when you look at the old traditional
you typically you know you get a broken pipe or
some roots in the line. Someone will come in and
traditionally they're going to go ahead and dig it up,
and unfortunately when you do that, you know you've got
some landscaping and stuff that may have to come out.
But with trench lists, as long as the condition of
the pipe allows us, we can actually put a new
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pipe inside a pipe and you don't have to do
any digging outside.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So we live in a area and a climate where
we have a lot of play soil, and just going
through a little mini drought we had, I've noticed the
soil pulls away from the foundation, it shrinks and expands
a lot. Is what kind of pipe is on our
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waistline that's going out to the street.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Typically in the Cincinnati area you have the old clay
tile piping, so you'll have cast iron coming out of
the house which turns into clay outside to the city main.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is that generally the problem then that type of pipe
with that kind of soil, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You'll have that, and you know, especially when it gets
dried out, you know, your roots are looking for a
water source. And with the clay pipe, you have the
have the joints and your roots will start growing through
the joints and you know, eventually could break the pipe
and separate it.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So so when somebody will run a camera down there
and say, boy, you got problems. You got roots roots
down there? Can the pipe be damaged? Also? Does it separate,
does it get crushed or what's causing the problem.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, A lot of times what happens is, you know,
the roots, the roots know to go to the pipe
because water starts to exit the joints over time, and
what will happen is that will slowly rode away.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
At the soil as well.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So and as the roots them in the roots that
you know, as the tree gets bigger every year, the
roots get bigger and they come through the pipe and
it breaks that that tile pipe.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I was down at the Zoalor Pump company about two
or three weeks ago and they were telling me, you know,
all these wipes and different things that get flushed down
the toilet are also a big part of the problem.
And their grinder pump business has exploded. Does that help
or hurt the situation or does it make any difference.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
There's still some things that you don't want to, you know,
put put down a drain, you know, you want to
you know, just put toilet paper in there. You don't
want to use, you know, paper towels and stuff like that.
That's because stuff like that we'll catch on on the
roots and the jagged pipe and cause issues.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And bottom line is we got to fix it. So
you do a trenchless your your company precision pipework so
it's locally owned, better knowned. Uh what what type of
service area do you have? Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
We cover We cover the you know, the tri State
will cover northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, a little bit in the
Indiana and the Dayton area as well.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Okay, And and I guess all pipes depending no situations
ever the same, right, I mean, it's always different. Can
you do trenchless on all all projects or is it
somewhat limited.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
As far as what kind of pipe it is that
that really doesn't make a difference. We you know, we
can do residential and commercials just the only time it
would make a difference depending on what's being used in
the pipe. You know, if it's a factory or anything
like that, we have to you know, you got to
make sure you're using a special type of of resin
to to allow for for any types of chemicals or
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extra heat. But as far as the piping, we can.
We can line pretty much any pipe.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So if a home owner right now is having trouble
and you know, they call their local plumber in and
he runs a camera and he's got you know, he's
telling you, you know, the woeful news of what the
problem is, and somebody wants a you know, second opinion
or talking about you know, maybe this particular person's going
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to dig up the pipe, and they they want to
check with precision pipework see if there's an easier way
to do that. Is that a good part of your business.
I mean, I'm always encouraging people on a big repair
to get second opinions.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, we'll come in. We offer we offer a free
second opinion. So if you've had someone come out and
they've restored flow, will come out and we run the
camera at no charge. We take a look at it
and then you know, give you the best options for
for your pipe and the.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Condition of it.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And and hopefully most of the times we can do
do the trench list, which is you know, it's typically
you can go in and do that and and one
day you don't have you know, it doesn't take up
a lot of time, and it's and it's completed.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So Dave, I know there's a lot of people in
My background was in hardware stores, so we sold all
kinds of drain cleaners all the time, and we sold
different things that were going to kill tree roots and
keep the pipe free flowing. But eventually it's got to
be replaced, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Especially with the clay pipe, because when the roots come in,
they've already compromised the condition of the pipe. So typically
it's not if it's when it's it's going to happen,
and when when you look at the trenchless side of it.
It is about the conditions of the pipe, because sometimes
we still show up to a job and unfortunately the
pipe is too far gone because they've let it go
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and and you have to do it the ultra additional way.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Sure, all right, So Precision Pipe works and doing the
greater Cincinnati area in Dayton. And so here's the big question,
how do you do it? Walk us through what the
process is. You said it can be done in a day,
So I'm sure everybody listening right now says how long
does it take? How do you do it? Is it
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less expensive? But the big advantages you don't have to
dig up your whole front yard right right.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, And sometimes it depends on what's inside the house
to have access to it, but typically we can go
in and locate the pipe at the front of the house.
We just have to create a small hole in the
in the concrete and dig down about a foot and
a half two foot and get to the pipe. And
then that allows us to install ours trenchilest technology, which
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is it's a felt with a two mix epoxy resin
and we saturate the fell and then it's inverted with
air as if you were pulling a sock inside out.
It's just like you're inverting that from from the house
all the way out to the city main. And then
we use hot water and the hot water activates the
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resin and we yep, and then we're able to cook
it and then cool it. And once we cool it,
the the actual fabric in the liner is is cured.
You can start using it immediately.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So do we lose any dim I mean we lose
some diameter. Do we lose a noticeable amount of diameter
inside that pipe?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Or no, you don't. It's uh, we still we still
make sure that we put in the right size liner
because you know, you still want it to be structural.
But it actually will increase the flow of the pipe
just because there is no joints. It's one continuous pipe
from the house to the street.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Gotcha, less friction? Huh? How long something like that lasts?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's got a fifty year life expectancy. Really, we give
a we give it a ten year warranty, just as
if we were to you know, if someone comes in
and digs it. That PBC pipe also has a fifty
year life expectancy.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So how's it balance out in price? Is it about
the same price, is a little more as a little less.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's typically a little less because if you do the
traditional way of digging everything, then you have to do
the restoration of the r or maybe a sidewalk or
patio or the driveway.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And so this technology, how new is it or has
it been around a while?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's been around a while. It started in the early
seventies over in Europe, but as far as around here,
they do it in the bigger city Mainz, but residential
it's probably been probably the mid to late nineties when
they started doing a lot of it, and residential.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I guess a lot of don't do this work themselves,
do they?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
No, Typically they don't. It's I mean, because it's a
it's an investment and you want to make sure you
have the right equipment and and you know, keep up
with the technology to do it. We we do work
in the area for a lot of a lot of
other plumbers as well.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Okay, so you're the specialist, right, yes, all right, So
I gotta think this business is growing, isn't it. I
mean those pipes keep getting older every year.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh yeah, definitely, you know, and there there is there's
more more and more people getting into it, you know
in Cincinnati is you know there's there's there's a lot
of old pipes in Cincinnati and there's a lot of work,
you know, and that's the that's the main thing is
is you know, trench list is is something that that
you know has been growing and you know that's the
biggest thing is just making sure that you know, when
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everyone's coming in to do it, you know they're doing
it right using the right material. That's what's most important.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sure, Now, you know anything in plumbing, it's all different
in size and type. I mentioned commercial buildings. Do you
do commercial work also, I'm sure those are bigger pipes.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, there's sometimes they're bigger pipes. Sometimes they're the same.
But you know what, commercial you could go into a
factory that has a big piece of equipment on top
of it that can't be moved and can't be you know,
dug up and re routed and shut down for a
long period of time. So trenchless in commercial work is
is just as beneficial.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Sure, all right, So if somebody wants to get a
hold of you at Precision Pipeworks and get an estimate,
and I guess even a second opinion. Folks, have you
been messing around with roots in that waistline or you
know you've got a problem. How do they give you
a call? How do they get an estimate, and how
do we get this work started?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well, they can reach out to us by phone at
nine three seven seven nine zero one zero one, or
they can reach us on online at Precision pipeworks dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Very good, Dave, thank you, We'll get the word out. Thanks.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Thanks again, Gary, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
All right, you bet, all right? There you go. Precision Pipeworks.
They're locally owned, veter knowned and operated. They're located in Franklin, Ohio.
They service really a tri state area in Dayton, Cincinnati.
The whole works, and I'll tell you that is one
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of the that's one of the coolest services that I'm
familiar with. If you've ever seen somebody have a mainline
replaced the digging way, that's not something you want to
do if you can avoid it. First of all, you know,
he did talk about that. You know, sometimes you'd have
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to cut through a driveway, cut through a sidewalk, and
for the cut down the bushes and then in the
yard you gotta dig the soil out. You got to
backo and there you're pouring the soil back on top
of it, and then you can't plant grass seed for
six months till the soil settles. So the trenchless sewer
repair and drain repair certainly the way to go. And
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that's Precision Pipeworks against nine thirty seven seven nine zero
eleven zero one Precision Pipeworks dot com. Well, take a
little break, we'll wrap up today. If you'd like to
join us, do so. You're at home with Gary Sullivan
on fifty five. Care see right back in it. We
go twelve to fifty one on your Saturday. I hope
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you're getting a few things done on the outside of
your home. And I know I always tell you about
taking a walk around the home. It's probably been about
four weeks since I've taken my walk around the home,
and probably due for it. Grass cutting is on my
list today. A little trimming and grass cutting lovely at least,
it's a good thing. I'll do it. Gotta get it
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done before the rain comes, Danny, it makes sense, Yeah,
it needs it. It's like six days and it's going
to rain tomorrow, so better get it done.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Late tonight and tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, there you go. Last thing I'll address. As we
were talking about, you know, fall projects, and fall still
one of the best times to get some things done
around the home. I'm sure once we get to have
a little rain for a couple of days, it'll be coolish,
but it'll be perfect working weather. It really will. And
my perfect working weather is mid sixties. Man, it doesn't
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get any better than that. And I'm always kind of
focused on the front door. You know, the holidays coming up,
a lot of people entering your house to the front door.
And if I was to name one thing that is
lousy looking at front doors, regardless of where where you
live or how big of a house you live, it's
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usually the stoop or the landing on the front porch.
I don't know, maybe yours is just perfect concrete. I
don't see too many of those. But we were talking
about how to dress up a garage floor. We can
also talk about how to dress up the front porch.
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A lot of times we have spawling, that's the popping
of concrete on the surface. We have cracks, we have
tilted porches, and we kind of dress a lot of
that ourselves. We can't do much about the tilted porch.
We ourselves can There are people that do slabjacking and
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can lift that and might not be a bad idea,
especially if it's tilted towards the house. That's a no no.
But cosmetically, I guess is something you want to take
a look at. Especially got a house back from the
fifties and we got several cracks that have been repaired
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through that porch. And so we see this big white
hawking line going this way and one going that way,
or we see a bunch of divots that we patched
in a concrete doesn't match. There are recap products out
on a market that are getting pretty dog gone good,
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and there are some that are pre mixed. I know
Diyshe Coding's got one that's pre mixed. It's very good.
I would recommend that it's called concrete patch, fix it patch.
I have to look it up. Uh, it's pre mixed
and it's a non cementatious material and you actually trial
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it on. Now you've got to make sure the slab
is cleaning everything. But it's a complete overlay and it
looks like concrete and it's not concrete. So it won't stain.
Good stuff rock patch, thanks Danny. Yes, they sell it
as patching con you know, divots and stuff like cracks.
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But you can do it as you can coat the
whole surface with it. Don't put indoor outdoor carpet on
it and glue it. You're not gonna get it up.
Don't paint it. It's gonna be slippery and paint's gonna appeal.
Take a look at these recap products quick Great's got
once a powder, there's some little more work involved. It
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is a cementatious product. You got to get a commercial drill,
stirred up in a five gallon bucket, pour it on
and distribute it brush or squeegee. But again you're resurfacing it.
You're hiding seventy years of history of cracks and patches.
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In other words, you can really dress it up. If
you want to use the rock patch and just patch
it and I'm not talking about painting it, then that
dice coating roller. Rock Day also have one called Torazzo.
It's a decorative recap. It's very good. You'll probably get
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fifteen to twenty years out of it. But that that
front porch area and you can do that in a weekend.
I mean just a couple of hours here and a
couple hours there, because you gotta wait for things to
dry and put a slippery, slip resistant track safe sealer
over it. If you were going to use the dice
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on the concrete recap product, I got to wait overnight,
and you want to seal it also. But for the
most part, it's a you know, a couple of hours here,
a couple hours there, and you're completed. And what a
great way you got do it on it's above freezing.
But what a great way to dress up that stoop
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or dress up the area right in front of your
front door. It gives you a whole new look. And
I know there's other things like, you know, I'm always
talking about replacing lighting because there's so much cool looking
lighting out on the market now, and it doesn't it
have to look like a standard fixture. I mean, you
can get some really good looking stuff. So there's other
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things like replacing the lock and repainting the door, restaining
the door. But concentrate on that concrete slab, and don't
don't go the carpet way not the way to go.
Don't go the carpetway all right, music's playing, Danny Boy,
thank you very very much. Thanks for all your efforts
here today. It was a busy day. We got a
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lot to talk about, good Lord Willing. We'll both be
back tomorrow morning at nine right here on fifty five
krc DE talk station.
Well, the best time of the day. I get us
sickod afternoon and welcome. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
And I know there's no armadillos in Ohio, but it
was kind of interesting reading about them during the break.
Sounds to me like armadillo is not that we'll probably
have them for a while, but sounds like a mixture
of skunks and moles. And because they're talking about keeping
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them away from decking underneath decks, you got to put
in a barrier like a underground fence. When I say moles,
mixed castor oil with water spray around the yard. Sometimes
the smells will repel them live traps. And then it
goes back to the old remedy. Wildlife control services. They've
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got the equipment and knowledge to safely remove armadillos. I
wonder if our friend Ron Krueger at A one pest
or ay one wildlife control out of the Actor area
has ever removed in Armadillo. I have to check with them.
But anyway, they they're burrowers. They go at night, and
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so anyway, that's interesting that they're in Missouri. That is interesting,
all right. Our phone number is eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five and Mark, you're Batten. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hey Gary, Yes, I have a question for you, and
it's regarding a new home construction we want to do
next year, and my question is regarding heating system. So
we currently have a home as a natural gas fired
gas spoiler with a hydraunic heating system. Very happy with
I like it. The only drawback is the you know,
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the central air. You have to figure out how to
do that. And we did a space pack a mini
duct system right in the new home I don't have
I'm not going to have access to natural gas, only
electric or propane. So you know, my question is, you
know what seems to be the most efficient and comfortable
you know these days? Is it going to be more
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of an electric heat pomp with a propane backup?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, tough to answer because of the whole demand for electricity.
I'm sure you've been reading about it, and a lot
of it is just with all the data and the
computer servers. My daughter's kind of involved in that industry
and she was explaining to me that what a huge,
massive problem that is. One of the things that she
(02:37):
was also talking about is and it would make sense
for you to explore this, it would be like geo thermal.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Heating, right, a closed loop system.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, so it sounds like you have thought of that.
So forecasting in the future can be tricky. In fact,
when I started radio forty years ago, is my first
question is should I put in electric or gash? Which
one should I do? And you know, at that point
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it was go gas, you know, go gas, And now
the pricing is is pretty comparable. There's it's a push.
I don't know about the future, and I'm talking about
the you know, with a new home, you really got
to be looking much more in the future. And so
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I would still say, you know, I would still lean
towards gas or pro pane, but the cost of electricity
down the road and maybe even the scarcity of it
might be an issue. So I'm starting to think maybe
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geothermoa take a look.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
At Yeah, I mean, what do you think about the
same thing with a hydraunic system but with a propane
fired boiler.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess yes would be an answer.
I guess where I'm going on is I haven't done
a study between all three mark, and I'd hate to say, yeah,
just go this way or that way. I would say
a pro pain like you were speaking of, would be
certainly one I would investigate. I would also investigate, you know,
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the geothermal, and then take a look at the electricity,
and then kind of look at where you are today
and really working with someone that's really in the industry.
I know, Train, they're they're spinning off different things where
they're really doing I don't want to use the word
(04:52):
carbon neutral, but it's just they're doing a lot of
developments on what is the next big th in other words,
what are we where should we be going? And so
maybe talking with a train dealer on your options there
and comparing those and they may have a lot on
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their website. I haven't checked, but I think you've got
to look at all of the above, which is kind
of what you're doing, but really dealing with the data
and long range data which is going to be difficult.
So finding somebody that's kind of on the cutting edge
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of that, and from what I can see right now,
it would probably be train and maybe trained dealers can
help you a little bit more with that, but I
think I would be intrigued. You know, we were pretty
gun ho on the whole geothermal thing about twenty twenty
five years ago and it seemed to have lost a
(05:54):
lot of momentum, but I feel that's coming.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Back if you go a you know, hydraunic system. What
about Central Air again, is there anything that's changed out there?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, I think you're what did you use the phrase
before the mini.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
The mini death systems like stay back? Is actually the
comp that makes that and they don't have to duplicate
registers and that right.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Right, No, I still think that's the way to go.
I do think that is the way to go. I
don't think there's anything much more advanced than that, right now.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, all right, Well thank you for I hope I
helped a little.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay, all right, thanks, thanks.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Take care. It's good to Mike, Mike, welcome.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I got two questions, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
One is when is.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Uh I only caught the end of the order exit interview?
Did she claimed that that worked really good on cat oders?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah? It does, and she's I've been talking to her
and she has been a sponsor show I'm going to
Guess twenty some years, so I'm pretty familiar with it.
And she's got some great stories to prove her point.
And with the Cats, there was one woman I'll just
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repeat a story, then I'll give you some tips. She
was talking about this lady who had a lot of
cats and in a condo to a point where she
was going to be evicted or get rid of all
the cats. And it was the smell in that was
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so strong it's permeating the other units and everything else.
It was a disaster. And this lady called her up
and they did rectify the situation. She had to get
rid of the cats, but literally they had no idea
how they're going to clean us up. And the older
exit eliminator on multiple applications eliminated the smell where she
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could stay and other people stayed and all that. The
secret for you and I to use that in our
home in any case, whether it's a strong or mild case,
is to identify where it's aid. I think I don't
know what part of the interview you said the end.
I don't know where we talked about it. She was
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talking about identifying where it is. Cats can use your
couch as a litter box. They could use the corner
where the carpet is is a litter box. There could
be spray on the wall in the corner, So you
got to get it all, okay. So she has a
black light or any black light will work. She has
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a little flashlight that is a black light. It glows okay,
and then you know where it is.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now on the subject of shingles, Oh wait, on the
odor exit, do you have to pull the carpet up
and do the floor as well, or we'll go right
through the pad and all that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, it depends, right, I mean, And she said in
the corner she would pull the carpet up because that's
usually a prime spot. So if you if you see
a lot of you know, cat urine in that area,
she felt it would be best to pull the carpet up,
spray the pad, spray the floor because it's got to
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be it's kind of got to be saturated. Now, the
floor is probably protected with a eurothane or ovarni, so
it may not have penetrated in the floor, but certainly
the pad. So you got to wet that area down thoroughly.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Okay. Now on shingles, don't they make like a glue
where you can just resand and glue the sand under
the shingles without replacing them.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
They have a product that can be sprayed over a
granular covered shingle that will stop the decay of the
shingle and the loosening of the granules. I don't know
where you could actually add granules to it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Well, they must make a glue that you could put
on the shingles and then anything that sticks to it.
Don't you think that would protect them?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, I don't sand. Well, I don't know that. I
don't know that, and it's it is a sealant, but
I don't know if it's a glue. In other words,
I hear what you're saying, and I know what they
tell me. So it is a sealant that is sprayed
over and resisting shingle and fortifies the granular granular material
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that's on the shingle itself. In fact, when I talk
to their technology departments and asking them questions, I asked them,
can you do all roofs And the answer was no.
We look at the roof and we determine how much
what stated decay decay it is in and if we
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can do it, there's enough on that shingle, we'll do
it and guarantee it for five years. So they didn't
talk to me about adding material. I don't know the
grains that are on the shingle themselves. If it is
just sand, it's a protectant. But I don't know if
it's sand, So I just just don't know, to be
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honest with you, Mike. When I've seen it, it's very thin.
I don't think you'd be able to throw sand on
there and have it stick, and I don't think it'd match.
And I think there's a multitude of issues at that.
All right, we'll continue with your calls. You're at home
with Gary Sullivan right here on fifty five K see
de talk station. All right, back here we go at
home with Gary Sullivan, coming up at the bottom of
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the hour. And this might be interest to a lot
of people. And that is our waistline that goes from
our house out to the sewer system. We have different
ages of homes, of course, with some brand new ones
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back in the thirties, twenties, fifties, sixties. In a lot
of cases we have the wistlines that aren't as good
as they are today. We have clay pipes with seams,
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we have a lot of clay soil routes, we have
heavy rains, we have a lot of ground movement, and
those pipes become compromised. That's one issue. When they become compromised.
We have a tendency to get tree roots into the
seams of those pipes, which are little tentacles that collect
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gunk in a waistline, and sometimes those seams are separated,
sometimes they're cracks. Sometimes it's just they're great pipes. But
we get accumulation of wipes and different things that go
down the toilet, and really, you know, many of us
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almost need grinder pumps to get that liquefied before going
down the toilet. It's becoming a problem. We'll talk to
some folks that are going to talk about that, and
we're also going to talk about what happens when it's
such a problem that you're told that pipe needs to
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be replaced. That's a big problem. There's newer technology that's
being used where they actually use i'll call it a
bladder through that pipe, and we're going to have that
whole discussion at the bottom of the hour. In the meantime,
one of the earlier callers today, and when I first
started the show, I talked about gutters and all the
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leaves they're changing their beginning to follow, et cetera, et cetera.
You promise yourself that you're going to clean that out,
and you're going to put a hose down the down spot,
and you're going to make sure that water's exiting away
from the house. And then we had somebody who was
going to tackle the job of installing his own gutters,
which is fine, but he was asking about the slope
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on the gutters. So he wasn't experienced hanging gutters. That
doesn't mean you can't do it. You just got to
know some information on how to do it. And the
slope is key, which also kind of ties in to
the first part of the show that we were talking about.
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So then the slope on a gutter is usually and
I'd said, a quarter of an inch drop for every
ten foot of gutter. So if you got a twenty
foot length, it's a half inch forty foot, it's a
whole inch from the high end to the down spout. Obviously,
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the slope is always towards the down spout. So the
best way to do it is and I was talking
to him about brackets. He wasn't sure about the brackets.
He was going to overlap the gutters. There's brackets, there's
a coupler and there's not necessarily the use of a
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farrow and nail anymore. We have brackets that go underneath
the gutter, so you can start at the high point
and the low point to get your slope and a
chalk line and install your brackets to hold the gutter.
That's how you're gonna get your slope, which kind of
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reminded me of the first part of the show when
I talked about let's clean that gutter out, let's make
sure the water's running to the downspout, make sure the
water is going away from the foundation, whether underground or
above ground, which got me kind of thinking, I wonder
if anybody is concerned or has checked the slope on
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your existing gutters, because a lot of gutters. In fact,
a house just across thet from me the other day
it was having their gut new gutters put on. And
with the amount of downpours that we've had this year,
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and I'm getting a lot of calls across the country
about this issue. A heavy rain is a heavy rain now,
and there seems to be more of them, and we
see to seem to have more run off over the
gutters than I ever remember talking to homeowners about and
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I'm always talking. When I started doing a show many
moons ago, a lot of people had four inch gutters,
and now the standard is pretty much five. But I'm
also having a lot of people talking to me about
six inch gutters. And today the light bulb went off
and thought, one thing I haven't really ask them is
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if you checked the slope on your gutters, right, So,
if you have a steep roof and five inch gutters
used to carry that away. Yeah, and maybe the excessive
amount of rain that we have been having over the
last five ten years, especially especially five, maybe you do
need a six inch gutter or maybe that five inch gutter.
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I don't know. Maybe that slope isn't what it used
to be. And you know, putting a level on that
gutter would probably tell you what kind of slope you have.
I mean, you don't want it where that bubble is
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in the middle of the level. You know, the bubbles
right in the middle of the range. It should be
a little outside of it. I'm sure we can find
out exactly how much, but I'm gonna guess probably an
eighth of that bubble should be sticking out of the
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level range and you would probably be good. But if
you put that level up there, and that baby's right
in the middle, it's a level. There's your problem. You know,
it's not so much the size of the gutter. You've
lost the slope on that And how's that happen? Well,
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especially in older gutters, you didn't have brackets. You literally
had a nail and a farrell or a screw and
a farll or nine ten inches long, and it's you know,
it's just screwed into the faciant. Hopefully something behind that,
but not always, and it just kind of segs and
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we start not having a slope. So when you're cleaning
them out and you're testing the slope and you're testing
the water, how that's flowing. Not a bad idea. Get
a level up there and check and make sure we
have that proper slope on that gutter. All right, we'll
take a break. We'll come back and we'll talk a
little bit about wastelines as we continue at home with
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Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care see de
talk station. All right, back at it we go. A
lovely day, a little windy, nice and warm out there,
though it rains on its way later tonight Tomorrow looks
like a wash out and temperature's fallen. Most of the day.
We've been talking to home improvement covering a lot of ground.
We're going to cover a trenchless sewer and drain repair.
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Precision Pipeworks is the name of the company. Dave Crook
is a gentleman I'm talking to and Dave welcome that
home with Gary Salvn. How you do today?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Good Gary?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
How are you doing fine? So I guess before we
get rolling, first explain what a trenchless sewer and drain
repair is.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Trenchless sewer so when you look at the old traditional
you typically you know you get a broken pipe or
some roots in the line. Someone will come in and
traditionally they're going to go ahead and dig it up,
and unfortunately when you do that, you know you've got
some landscaping and stuff that may have to come out.
But with trench lists, as long as the condition of
the pipe allows us, we can actually put a new
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pipe inside a pipe and you don't have to do
any digging outside.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So we live in a area and a climate where
we have a lot of play soil, and just going
through a little mini drought we had, I've noticed the
soil pulls away from the foundation, it shrinks and expands
a lot. Is what kind of pipe is on our
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waistline that's going out to the street.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Typically in the Cincinnati area you have the old clay
tile piping, so you'll have cast iron coming out of
the house which turns into clay outside to the city main.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is that generally the problem then that type of pipe
with that kind of soil, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You'll have that, and you know, especially when it gets
dried out, you know, your roots are looking for a
water source. And with the clay pipe, you have the
have the joints and your roots will start growing through
the joints and you know, eventually could break the pipe
and separate it.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So so when somebody will run a camera down there
and say, boy, you got problems. You got roots roots
down there? Can the pipe be damaged? Also? Does it separate,
does it get crushed or what's causing the problem.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, A lot of times what happens is, you know,
the roots, the roots know to go to the pipe
because water starts to exit the joints over time, and
what will happen is that will slowly rode away.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
At the soil as well.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So and as the roots them in the roots that
you know, as the tree gets bigger every year, the
roots get bigger and they come through the pipe and
it breaks that that tile pipe.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I was down at the Zoalor Pump company about two
or three weeks ago and they were telling me, you know,
all these wipes and different things that get flushed down
the toilet are also a big part of the problem.
And their grinder pump business has exploded. Does that help
or hurt the situation or does it make any difference.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
There's still some things that you don't want to, you know,
put put down a drain, you know, you want to
you know, just put toilet paper in there. You don't
want to use, you know, paper towels and stuff like that.
That's because stuff like that we'll catch on on the
roots and the jagged pipe and cause issues.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And bottom line is we got to fix it. So
you do a trenchless your your company precision pipework so
it's locally owned, better knowned. Uh what what type of
service area do you have? Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
We cover We cover the you know, the tri State
will cover northern Kentucky, Cincinnati, a little bit in the
Indiana and the Dayton area as well.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Okay, And and I guess all pipes depending no situations
ever the same, right, I mean, it's always different. Can
you do trenchless on all all projects or is it
somewhat limited.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
As far as what kind of pipe it is that
that really doesn't make a difference. We you know, we
can do residential and commercials just the only time it
would make a difference depending on what's being used in
the pipe. You know, if it's a factory or anything
like that, we have to you know, you got to
make sure you're using a special type of of resin
to to allow for for any types of chemicals or
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extra heat. But as far as the piping, we can.
We can line pretty much any pipe.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So if a home owner right now is having trouble
and you know, they call their local plumber in and
he runs a camera and he's got you know, he's
telling you, you know, the woeful news of what the
problem is, and somebody wants a you know, second opinion
or talking about you know, maybe this particular person's going
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to dig up the pipe, and they they want to
check with precision pipework see if there's an easier way
to do that. Is that a good part of your business.
I mean, I'm always encouraging people on a big repair
to get second opinions.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, we'll come in. We offer we offer a free
second opinion. So if you've had someone come out and
they've restored flow, will come out and we run the
camera at no charge. We take a look at it
and then you know, give you the best options for
for your pipe and the.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Condition of it.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And and hopefully most of the times we can do
do the trench list, which is you know, it's typically
you can go in and do that and and one
day you don't have you know, it doesn't take up
a lot of time, and it's and it's completed.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So Dave, I know there's a lot of people in
My background was in hardware stores, so we sold all
kinds of drain cleaners all the time, and we sold
different things that were going to kill tree roots and
keep the pipe free flowing. But eventually it's got to
be replaced, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Especially with the clay pipe, because when the roots come in,
they've already compromised the condition of the pipe. So typically
it's not if it's when it's it's going to happen,
and when when you look at the trenchless side of it.
It is about the conditions of the pipe, because sometimes
we still show up to a job and unfortunately the
pipe is too far gone because they've let it go
(26:58):
and and you have to do it the ultra additional way.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Sure, all right, So Precision Pipe works and doing the
greater Cincinnati area in Dayton. And so here's the big question,
how do you do it? Walk us through what the
process is. You said it can be done in a day,
So I'm sure everybody listening right now says how long
does it take? How do you do it? Is it
(27:22):
less expensive? But the big advantages you don't have to
dig up your whole front yard right right.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, And sometimes it depends on what's inside the house
to have access to it, but typically we can go
in and locate the pipe at the front of the house.
We just have to create a small hole in the
in the concrete and dig down about a foot and
a half two foot and get to the pipe. And
then that allows us to install ours trenchilest technology, which
(27:53):
is it's a felt with a two mix epoxy resin
and we saturate the fell and then it's inverted with
air as if you were pulling a sock inside out.
It's just like you're inverting that from from the house
all the way out to the city main. And then
we use hot water and the hot water activates the
(28:13):
resin and we yep, and then we're able to cook
it and then cool it. And once we cool it,
the the actual fabric in the liner is is cured.
You can start using it immediately.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So do we lose any dim I mean we lose
some diameter. Do we lose a noticeable amount of diameter
inside that pipe?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Or no, you don't. It's uh, we still we still
make sure that we put in the right size liner
because you know, you still want it to be structural.
But it actually will increase the flow of the pipe
just because there is no joints. It's one continuous pipe
from the house to the street.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Gotcha, less friction? Huh? How long something like that lasts?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's got a fifty year life expectancy. Really, we give
a we give it a ten year warranty, just as
if we were to you know, if someone comes in
and digs it. That PBC pipe also has a fifty
year life expectancy.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So how's it balance out in price? Is it about
the same price, is a little more as a little less.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's typically a little less because if you do the
traditional way of digging everything, then you have to do
the restoration of the r or maybe a sidewalk or
patio or the driveway.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And so this technology, how new is it or has
it been around a while?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's been around a while. It started in the early
seventies over in Europe, but as far as around here,
they do it in the bigger city Mainz, but residential
it's probably been probably the mid to late nineties when
they started doing a lot of it, and residential.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I guess a lot of don't do this work themselves,
do they?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
No, Typically they don't. It's I mean, because it's a
it's an investment and you want to make sure you
have the right equipment and and you know, keep up
with the technology to do it. We we do work
in the area for a lot of a lot of
other plumbers as well.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Okay, so you're the specialist, right, yes, all right, So
I gotta think this business is growing, isn't it. I
mean those pipes keep getting older every year.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh yeah, definitely, you know, and there there is there's
more more and more people getting into it, you know
in Cincinnati is you know there's there's there's a lot
of old pipes in Cincinnati and there's a lot of work,
you know, and that's the that's the main thing is
is you know, trench list is is something that that
you know has been growing and you know that's the
biggest thing is just making sure that you know, when
(30:56):
everyone's coming in to do it, you know they're doing
it right using the right material. That's what's most important.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sure, Now, you know anything in plumbing, it's all different
in size and type. I mentioned commercial buildings. Do you
do commercial work also, I'm sure those are bigger pipes.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, there's sometimes they're bigger pipes. Sometimes they're the same.
But you know what, commercial you could go into a
factory that has a big piece of equipment on top
of it that can't be moved and can't be you know,
dug up and re routed and shut down for a
long period of time. So trenchless in commercial work is
is just as beneficial.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Sure, all right, So if somebody wants to get a
hold of you at Precision Pipeworks and get an estimate,
and I guess even a second opinion. Folks, have you
been messing around with roots in that waistline or you
know you've got a problem. How do they give you
a call? How do they get an estimate, and how
do we get this work started?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well, they can reach out to us by phone at
nine three seven seven nine zero one zero one, or
they can reach us on online at Precision pipeworks dot com.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Very good, Dave, thank you, We'll get the word out. Thanks.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Thanks again, Gary, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
All right, you bet, all right? There you go. Precision Pipeworks.
They're locally owned, veter knowned and operated. They're located in Franklin, Ohio.
They service really a tri state area in Dayton, Cincinnati.
The whole works, and I'll tell you that is one
(32:43):
of the that's one of the coolest services that I'm
familiar with. If you've ever seen somebody have a mainline
replaced the digging way, that's not something you want to
do if you can avoid it. First of all, you know,
he did talk about that. You know, sometimes you'd have
(33:04):
to cut through a driveway, cut through a sidewalk, and
for the cut down the bushes and then in the
yard you gotta dig the soil out. You got to
backo and there you're pouring the soil back on top
of it, and then you can't plant grass seed for
six months till the soil settles. So the trenchless sewer
repair and drain repair certainly the way to go. And
(33:28):
that's Precision Pipeworks against nine thirty seven seven nine zero
eleven zero one Precision Pipeworks dot com. Well, take a
little break, we'll wrap up today. If you'd like to
join us, do so. You're at home with Gary Sullivan
on fifty five. Care see right back in it. We
go twelve to fifty one on your Saturday. I hope
(33:50):
you're getting a few things done on the outside of
your home. And I know I always tell you about
taking a walk around the home. It's probably been about
four weeks since I've taken my walk around the home,
and probably due for it. Grass cutting is on my
list today. A little trimming and grass cutting lovely at least,
it's a good thing. I'll do it. Gotta get it
(34:10):
done before the rain comes, Danny, it makes sense, Yeah,
it needs it. It's like six days and it's going
to rain tomorrow, so better get it done.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Late tonight and tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, there you go. Last thing I'll address. As we
were talking about, you know, fall projects, and fall still
one of the best times to get some things done
around the home. I'm sure once we get to have
a little rain for a couple of days, it'll be coolish,
but it'll be perfect working weather. It really will. And
my perfect working weather is mid sixties. Man, it doesn't
(34:42):
get any better than that. And I'm always kind of
focused on the front door. You know, the holidays coming up,
a lot of people entering your house to the front door.
And if I was to name one thing that is
lousy looking at front doors, regardless of where where you
live or how big of a house you live, it's
(35:04):
usually the stoop or the landing on the front porch.
I don't know, maybe yours is just perfect concrete. I
don't see too many of those. But we were talking
about how to dress up a garage floor. We can
also talk about how to dress up the front porch.
(35:29):
A lot of times we have spawling, that's the popping
of concrete on the surface. We have cracks, we have
tilted porches, and we kind of dress a lot of
that ourselves. We can't do much about the tilted porch.
We ourselves can There are people that do slabjacking and
(35:52):
can lift that and might not be a bad idea,
especially if it's tilted towards the house. That's a no no.
But cosmetically, I guess is something you want to take
a look at. Especially got a house back from the
fifties and we got several cracks that have been repaired
(36:19):
through that porch. And so we see this big white
hawking line going this way and one going that way,
or we see a bunch of divots that we patched
in a concrete doesn't match. There are recap products out
on a market that are getting pretty dog gone good,
(36:42):
and there are some that are pre mixed. I know
Diyshe Coding's got one that's pre mixed. It's very good.
I would recommend that it's called concrete patch, fix it patch.
I have to look it up. Uh, it's pre mixed
and it's a non cementatious material and you actually trial
(37:08):
it on. Now you've got to make sure the slab
is cleaning everything. But it's a complete overlay and it
looks like concrete and it's not concrete. So it won't stain.
Good stuff rock patch, thanks Danny. Yes, they sell it
as patching con you know, divots and stuff like cracks.
(37:30):
But you can do it as you can coat the
whole surface with it. Don't put indoor outdoor carpet on
it and glue it. You're not gonna get it up.
Don't paint it. It's gonna be slippery and paint's gonna appeal.
Take a look at these recap products quick Great's got
once a powder, there's some little more work involved. It
(37:51):
is a cementatious product. You got to get a commercial drill,
stirred up in a five gallon bucket, pour it on
and distribute it brush or squeegee. But again you're resurfacing it.
You're hiding seventy years of history of cracks and patches.
(38:15):
In other words, you can really dress it up. If
you want to use the rock patch and just patch
it and I'm not talking about painting it, then that
dice coating roller. Rock Day also have one called Torazzo.
It's a decorative recap. It's very good. You'll probably get
(38:35):
fifteen to twenty years out of it. But that that
front porch area and you can do that in a weekend.
I mean just a couple of hours here and a
couple hours there, because you gotta wait for things to
dry and put a slippery, slip resistant track safe sealer
over it. If you were going to use the dice
(38:57):
on the concrete recap product, I got to wait overnight,
and you want to seal it also. But for the
most part, it's a you know, a couple of hours here,
a couple hours there, and you're completed. And what a
great way you got do it on it's above freezing.
But what a great way to dress up that stoop
(39:20):
or dress up the area right in front of your
front door. It gives you a whole new look. And
I know there's other things like, you know, I'm always
talking about replacing lighting because there's so much cool looking
lighting out on the market now, and it doesn't it
have to look like a standard fixture. I mean, you
can get some really good looking stuff. So there's other
(39:42):
things like replacing the lock and repainting the door, restaining
the door. But concentrate on that concrete slab, and don't
don't go the carpet way not the way to go.
Don't go the carpetway all right, music's playing, Danny Boy,
thank you very very much. Thanks for all your efforts
here today. It was a busy day. We got a
(40:03):
lot to talk about, good Lord Willing. We'll both be
back tomorrow morning at nine right here on fifty five
krc DE talk station.
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