Gary Sullivan 10/4/2025 Hour 1

Gary takes your calls, questions and tips.  We also talk to the Yardoby, Ron WIlson.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, the weekend's upon us. Welcome. You're at home with
Gary Salvin. Another weekend getting a few things done around
the home. Glad you could join me, and boy, this
is the time to talk about clock gutters, that's for sure,
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done around the home. The voice a little bit better
than last weekend, Thank goodness. And we'll take your calls

(01:11):
right now at eight hundred. Now you sound almost normal
this weekend. Well, thank you for calling me normal.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
If there is a such thing as normal for you, well, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You, thanks sir. All right, it feels good to be normal.
I'm gonna stop before I get more truth normal. All right,
it's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
That's our phone number. Get you right in. Daniel'll take
your call and we'll chat about well, your home projects.
And for the last probably four or five weeks, we've

(01:39):
had some tremendous weather where I'm at. It looks like maybe, uh,
I was gonna say ardy blast, but I don't think.
I don't think it qualifies. It's gonna chill off a
little bit. Where I'm at this week, it'll definitely feel
like cool, cool, cooler weather. We'll have temperatures right around
fifty in the evening, so that'll be nice. It'd be
a good indication at is certainly here and kind of

(02:03):
too early to start talking about, you know, freezing pipes
or anything, but not too early to start talking about
looking for pipes that are exposed to freezing temperatures. Yeah,
so if you live in an older home, maybe the
garage is underneath the house, maybe the water lines are

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along the ceiling of the garage. They're exposed to freezing temperatures.
And maybe you just moved into that house. You don't
know that they're going to be exposed to freezing temperatures.
But if you kind of give it a good look,
you'll figure it out pretty fast. And now's a good
time to get those insulated and just projects like that

(02:45):
kind of preparing ahead. I was just talking about the gutters. Certainly,
we want to make sure they're clean and free flowing.
And if you're not going to take my advice on
the gutter brush, promise me this now, coming around the
fifth of November, you say, all right, I'm going to

(03:05):
clean all that gunk out of the gutters. I want
to make sure they're opening, free flowing. If you live
in the colder temperatures and the ice and the snow
and the rain, I want to make sure i'm moving
all that moisture away from the house. You got to
promise me you'll clean those gutters, because that's where a
lot of the problems start right there. All right again,

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it's eight hundred and eighty two three eight two five five,
Mark you lead us off. Welcome. How are you doing, Gary,
Good morning, doing fine? Thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Hey. I have a house that was built in nineteen
eighty four. I'm doing a porch rebuild and it's you know,
standard four inch by a uh you know four is
five quarterboard. It was nailed in with a helical style nail.
Now I've got a thirty six inch pride bar and
I'm still struggling to get these guys to get these

(03:57):
boards up. I'm wondering if a bottle jack would be
a better option without you know, I'm fifty eight year
old dude, all right, So looking for the easiest way
to get these helix nails, yeah, or the boards up?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So, yeah, a bottle jack may work. Is there anything
like on the what did you say you're using a
crowbar to get him up? Get out? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I've got a Yeah, I've got a thirty six inch
you know, heavy duty pry bar. Okay, and I'm putting
all of my weight. I'm putting all my weight on it.
And if it breaks loose, you know, I'm face planting
into the dirt.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah. I really don't want that either. That's not a
good look. I would try a bottle jack. And is
there any way you can put like a I'm not
going to say a little beam, but some longer type
where you can get it underneath it and lift it
that way on top of the bottle jack?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh, on top on top of the bottle jack. I
don't even I'm at a I'm at the big blue
box right now trying to pick one up. I need
I need a couple of waste management bags, you know,
the big green bags.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, well those, Yeah, the dumpster bake. Yeah, I
think i'd take a look at the jack. I think really,
once you take a look at it, you'll be able
to see if that's gonna work. I don't know. I
you obviously need more ooph on there. You don't want
to be just hanging on there with a you know,
a pry bar, because you're right, if that gives your

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your of luck.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, like you said, I face playing the dirt would
not be a good not a good look.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Neighbors will love it, but you won't.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, my nearest neighbor's fifteen hundred feet away, so you
know there's nobody. Ain't nobody going to see ith?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, there's a zoom lens on a camera though.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, my front security camera would pick it up.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
And there you go. There you go take a look
at that and see if that looks like it gonna work.
I think that's a good idea. I would certainly take
a peek at that.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, when I was, I've got two boards up, so
I've got access underneath now so i can get it
slid under there.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Sure get you know, put it right up right up.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Against the floor. Joist pop one pop, The next one
pop the next one as soon as I get a
few up up a little bit easier with the pride bar, right,
but hitting that first one up is.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
A yeah, you're gonna have a much better angle once
that first one's up. Yep, all right, I want a
full report. Mark you bet?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Oh, you bet you. I'll uh, I will call back
in probably in a couple hours. I'll let you know
how it goes.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Sounds great. Thanks, Right, let's go to Pat.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Pat welcome, Yes, Gary, I some years ago, when our
grandchildren were young, I had a coffee table and I
put some adhesive pads that you could cut and put
around it in case they would fall and hit it.
I want to remove those now, and when I do,

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there's like a sticky adhesive still remains on the border,
the outside edges. How do I remove that?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh? You could try some vegetable oil. Okay, let it
soak on there for a while and get yourself. You know,
if it's a little difficult to still remove that pad,
I would get like a little putty knife that is plastic, okay,
and just work with that. I think that's going to

(07:27):
be your best way. WD forty. That'll break adhesion. Also,
sometimes So if you want to try that to remove
the excess adhesive, that would work a hair dryer. If
you hit it and make it warm, it makes the
adhesive a little more pliable. And I'm only giving you
these other ideas because if I can't see it, and

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if that little pad is kind of hard, it gets
almost like dry rotted, and you might need to get
it to be a little bit more nimble before you
use the veget boil. Just a little bit of heat
on air might make it.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
More Uh, the pants come off with no problems.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I'll do that, Okay. Just try some vegetaboil or WD forty.
Either one of those will take it right off. Googon's
another one that'll take it off if you got.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Any of that, Okay, And then once I get it off,
just clean it with like pledge or something like that.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, I wouldn't really use any of those types of
cleaners because they contain a wax and over time wax
builds up gets dull and gets sticky. Find something without
wax and find something without a silicone. Those are the

(08:44):
two things. So I always talk about a product called
mill sick. That's that's a good one doesn't have silicon
or wax. I think cabinet magic also is one that
doesn't come with a silicone or a wax. Just read
the ingredients. But if you get something a little more clean,

(09:05):
it'll stay cleaner longer.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Okay, well, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
All right, Pat, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. All right,
you can grab a line. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. And of course this time
of year, we always get things to do around the home.
Happy to talk about your home projects. Ron Wilson, he'll
be joining us next. Talk a little not gardening, maybe
you're putting it to bed, or we'll see how Ron's

(09:31):
is growing. Maybe landscaping, bushes, trees. He'll cover it all.
That's next. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.

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All right, back at it we go twenty minutes after
the top of the hour at home with Gary Salvan.
A big part of our home is our homes landscaping.
That's why we bring in mister Wilson, and we bring
him in this time every weekend, every What should I
do today outside Charlatane. I'm kind of tired of all

(12:38):
this ron, tired of it, tired of it.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Well, Gary, you know what, your landscape is pretty much
an established landscape. Yeah, you don't really need to add anything. True,
your beds are edged and mulched.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
True.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know you've been watering the lawns, so you do
need a mow every now and then.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
True.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
So for the most part, I would say, you're at
a point where you know you really aren't doing anything
in the landscape right now, so you know you can
semi throw the trowel in and uh, you know, call
it or fall besides mowing, because you got to keep
as long as it's growing, you got to keep mowing.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I notice in my art and also in other people's arts,
some bear spots this.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Year, Yes, sir. Through out yes, sir. For the most part,
you know, you will see some grub dammage start to
show up, usually about late September early.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I think I'm seeing a little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
But you'll know that if you go out there and
try to pull that up and the and the turf
pulls up like sod, and usually you might see a
few grubs underneath there, so that that could be possibility,
you know, There's also situations where in many turfs, even
the really nice ones, a warm seasoned grass will infiltrate

(13:51):
in a thinner area like nimble will for instance. It's
probably one of our worst and it's nice and green
everything that's good. And then about now it starts and
lose its color.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I call it shaky.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, you say, what
are those brown patches? Well, it's not grub damage and
it's not drought. It's where another grass was there. That's
a warm season grass. It starts to go dormant and over.
It's amazing overtime. Next thing you know, it's kind of
spreads out in your lawn thins It doesn't take over
the lawn, it just moves in where the lawn thins out.
I could probably find that in almost every lawn that's

(14:24):
out there right to some degree. It's one of those
things you can just almost never get rid of. But
a lot of times that's what that is that you
start to see this time of the year.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
What about when you're your grass is beige and black.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's not good. That's that would be way you have
to put the black in there.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Lage Blaze augh it looked like somebody poured water on
then fright.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It great, I know, it's beautiful, excellent.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
It kind of pulls right out. I see it. A
little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, rake that out and you know, and again, if
you've got some of these areas, all you have to
do is just rake that up out, get that out
of there, because you need good seed soil contact. That's
a key that in moisture for getting grass seed to grow,
seed soil contact and cool season grasses. If you're doing
bluegrass right now, I would not do that. It takes
too long to germinate. But the fescues and the rise,

(15:18):
you still have time to do it. We're getting late,
but you still have time to do it. And do
remember one last thing. If you have a weed or
two that's popped up here in their broad leaf weeds,
mid to late October is actually the best time to
go after those, to spot treat with a broad leaf
weed killer, dandelions, things like that, not crab grass, not

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the annual grasses. They're going to die on their own,
but those broad leaf weeds that have been a tough
one to get rid of. This is a great mid
to late October great time to go after those. It
really works a lot better because they're shutting down. Sure,
they take that and they shove it down into the
roots and it just takes them out. It takes a
little bit longer, you know, don't notice them browning off
quite as quickly, but it does. It's a nice extended job,

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you know.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think on some of my bare spots, I think
they were Gary created. Uh oh, remember when we were
talking about nutgrass. Yes, Mighty used the wrong bottle.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Ah, Yeah, maybe I don't know, but it's right in
an area where there was nutgrass and that thing is dead,
or in a doornail about the size of a basketball.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I love it. Every now and then I'll see it
a long where somebody went through and spot treated. And
it can be confusing because there is a brand out
there that that the brand name. They have all different
types of products under the same brand.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Name, same color bottle.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, and I say it's round up and they and
they do label all different kinds of things underneath the
round up labels, and the vegetation killer is the main one.
But then there's broadly if weed killer and this and that,
and you get the wrong bottle and surprise, I'm.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Pretty sure that's what happened, because it's right where I
had the nutgrass, and I mean it's dead as a doornail.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
And there's at least you got rid of that survived.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, I got rid of it, our mad I remember,
I have people come in the store and be talking
about that, and you know what we talk about just
like you talk about it, and I go, I just laugh.
Like the world, we just pray the wrong stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's easy, it happens. But you know, a yeah, in
a small area like that, And it's also easy to
pick up just one piece of sod from your local
garden center and just cut that out of a nice
little square, put that sod right back down into that spot.
It's instant fills it back in, keep a little bit
of moisture to it, and you got it made.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And we got plenty of time to sod, you know what.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I think, we got plenty of time to plant grassy.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
We got you know what? Serious Well, I'm with you,
but you don't want it, you know, I know there's
a gamble you try to you always take the gamble.
Mother Nature's closing the window as we speak.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
But I remember when used to say in our area,
you know after mid September.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Oh yeah, oh, now here we are. We're week of October.
You were taking a big chance.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's right. I think you're kind of good. But there's
still a chance. Sounds like winter might be cold, though.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
So I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know, it's anny weather. Whether we like it or not.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Whatever's gonna happen. It's right, it's gonna happen. Just be prepared.
Listen to Gary Sullivan. Do all the things you need
to do if your home. Repair the gutters and seal
up the cocking and the calking, and get the down
spouts right, insulation right, windows sealed, and we're all good.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
The rust off your tools, sharpened the spade, and you're
good to go.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Take the hose off the spigot. Not yet, when we
start thinking of some of the cold on.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Your phone to give you an alarm on the twentieth
of October.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Twentieth of October.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, okay, just as a reminder, Okay, we need to water.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
For a Remember our our first frosts and freezes have
been delayed by about two weeks almost.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
In the area. It could almost be November, but the
last weekend first of November I'm gonna pick the twenty
next to October.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Twenty six of October for the first frost. Yeah, what's
yours first good frost? Yeah yeah, we won't see it
till November.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
All right, there you go, Ron Wilson, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
All right. It's Ron wilsononline dot com for more tips
and you can dial us up right now. Love to
talk to you about your home project. And you're at
home with Garriy Sullivan.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
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the weekend, talking little home improvement. Happy to take your calls.
The lines are wide open. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five focusing on projects you might
be doing around your home. And I can sit here
and talk about all kinds of things, which I will
do because we all need a little push to get

(22:27):
some things done. But if you have a specific question,
feel free to join us. It's eight hundred eighty two
three a two fivety five. All right. So, with colder
weather coming, things to check around the home. Sure, we
talk about gutters. I'd also like to talk a little
bit about window wells storm drains that also is blocked

(22:50):
by debris, and cleaning those out is key. So if
you go around the house, if you have window wells,
take a look at not all window wells have a
drain in the bottom. If they do, obviously that debris
has to be removed or the water can't go down

(23:11):
the drain. A lot of times window wells just have
a base of gravel or a base of stone, and
as the rain comes and fills that well up an
inch or so, it works its way into the ground
and moves on around the foundation and away from the

(23:32):
foundation through drain pipes around the foundation. But there's problem
with the of foundation piping. You might really consider a
wind to well cover to keep that rain from accumulating
in the well. So that is one thing. As you know,

(23:56):
the colder temperatures approach and we're outside less and we're
not inspecting our homes as much, that would be something
I'd put on my list to do. All right, Troy, welcome.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Hey, how's it going? Gary?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Going fine? Thanks?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well?

Speaker 7 (24:12):
And so I was calling there was the gentleman that
was talking about trying to get those deck boards up
to uh get a jack under there. It sounded like
he had picked up some uh waste management bags to
get rid of those boards. Mm hmm, some of those
boards out to get a lot easier to get that
jack out of there. If he's getting rid of those boards.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Anyways, So back up, you broke up a little bit.
I didn't hear you say cut the boards out.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
Yeah, if he's not keeping those boards to put him
back down, if he's going to replace them.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, I didn't ask some of them.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Yeah, if he's getting rid of those, I just cut
some of them out to get access to get that
jack under there and make.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
A lot easier, ma for sure. Yeah. I didn't ask
him what he was going to do with the boards. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
I just figured with him bringing up the waistbag that
maybe he was getting ready.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, he did mention that. You're right, I didn't focus
on it, but he did mention that. So yeah, that's
a good tip. Okay, anything to make it easier. That's
a job too. A lot of people don't realize how
tough that is.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
Those could be very difficult to get out. All right,
All right, Well I love the show. First time caller,
but listen every weekend.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Very good Troy, Thanks, take care, bye bye. And if
you are using the boards, I remember make sure you
use that tape on the top of the Joyce before
you put down new boards again. Pressure treated wood. Even
on the Joyce, it's only pressure tree down so far.
If you have big nail holes or missing wood, it's

(25:46):
not pressure trade in the center of that, so you
need to take care of that. Otherwise you're gonna end
up with Roddy Joyce for sure. Margaret, welcome. Hello, Yes,
who am.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
I speaking with? To Gary? Okay, Gary, I would like
to know if you can address the tankless water heaters
in central Arkansas. I don't know or haven't heard too
much about the I like it because you're smaller, but

(26:28):
you have natural gas and you have electric. I would
prefer to go the natural gas and the thing is,
but I'm wondering how they actually work. It's a smaller home.
Uh so it'd be a one person so I could go,

(26:48):
you know. And as far as heating, the actual function
of how it works, to maintain it and when you
turn it on, when you pull it up, how long
it takes for the warm water to come out and
how long the water runs before it gets colder. It
this is an issue. I can't seem to get any information. Yeah,

(27:11):
don't anybody explain how it actually works in the home.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, So basically, the biggest difference is one water heater
heats up water, stores the water in a big tank,
and when the water slightly cools, the gas turns on
and heats that same water back to the temperature it was. Yes, okay,

(27:41):
now the tankless. When you turn on the hot water tap,
the cold water flows through the heater. The gas burner
ignites rapidly and heats the water as it passes through
the heat exchanger, and the water comes out hot and
it stopped eating as soon as you close the tap.

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There's no standby heat loss, so you really have endless
hot water. As long as the hot water faucet is on,
you're only paying for the hot water that you use.
It's smaller in size, and it has a lifespan probably

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double of what a tank water heater is. So that's
your man.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
I had an existing Yeah, I had an existing uh
natural gas, but it was you know, the tank, and
I just got took up so much space and it's
conveniently located near the bathroom, the wahroom, dryer, and the kitchen.
But these all come with an electronic ignition that turns

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the pilot light on when you turn on the tap.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, yeah, soon you turn a hot water on. Your
your gas supply is heating that cold water immediately, so
you get water. You know, if it's right next to
the appliance, you're gonna get water pretty fast. You don't
have to sit there and wait for it to warm up.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
Now, yeah, to run the line.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So I told you what the cons are or what
the pros are. There's cons too. They cost more, so
consider that they also and it's not gonna it's not
gonna come into play for you. But there's flow limits,
which are not much anymore. It used to be a

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big thing probably twenty years ago. Maybe you're only getting
three or four gallons permitted and you could only run
a device or two. That's no longer a problem. They
come in different flow limits. You will have a low
flow limit requirement. And since it heats the water up fast,
there is more hard water deposits with a tankless Oh,

(30:07):
so you know, maintenance, it depends how hard your water
is but there may be some maintenance on that versus
the tank type, and there'll be possibly different venting that'll
have to be used. You're just going to have to
contact the plumber and let them take a look at it.
And the time to do that, of course, is now,

(30:29):
you know, before the before the other one breaks. Right.
One of the biggest reasons for people not putting them in,
quite honestly, is their their water heater fails and they
wanted to get a tankless. But well, I gotta I
gotta make sure I'm getting the right tankless. I'll just
put in what we had.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
Yes, that's that's almost where I'm at at this point.
So I listened to your program regularly and I thought
that maybe someone uh could be out there that had
used it. More I've only found one person who has one.
He loves it, but it's electric and uh so I

(31:09):
was wondering how the gas that's a gas compared to
how the because you know, people look at it. Thing
looks fine, it looks like it works, but it's how
you actually use it and functioning in the home.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah. Yeah, well I'll tell you. In fact, the gas one,
I would say I would recommend in a heartbeat. There's many,
many homes, even some homes being built today track housing
are putting in tankless water heaters and gas electric. The
flow rates a little different, it is well, but if.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
You know gas line, you know, uh, the power out
of gets and stuff like that. I mean, you know
you have hot water, you can take about it and
do all of these things. And that's why I like it.
From my exposed to I can make coffee, no matter
to walk.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well, I would definitely proceed. Get yourself, you know, get
with your plumber. There's a lot of top brands that
have the tankless one. There's Nigh Norritz, reem Bosh. See
which one he carries. Let him explain to you. Let
him look at where your present tank is. And I
think the conversion is going to be a no brainer

(32:24):
with one person in the house. I guarantee you, Margaret,
it'll fit your needs quite nicely. All right, we'll continue
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(35:37):
of airflow, especially if you have bushes or hedges or
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(35:59):
is you need good air circulation around that, and it's
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Speaker 3 (36:44):
Hey Gary, good morning.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
How are you doing doing all right? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
All right? The lady that just called in for the
gas tankless water heater some informations, I'm a collar that
might be able to give her a couple pointers. Okay.
First of all, she was so excited. I listened to
one that if the power went out, she'd be able
to make her hot coffee. Yeah, that gas unit need

(37:08):
at least one hundred and twenty volts electric current because
it's going to power up the control board. The vent
might be a fan and.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
So if your lost power, she wouldn't have no hot water.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, you know what. The only thing is, let me
add something. Don let me add something to You're exactly right.
And when we went to a break, I told Danny
I didn't have the heart to tell her she's still
not goldn't get her coffee. Even with the power vents
and tank heaters. You run into that same thing.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Correct. Also, the other the most utmost important factor, whether
it's eat electric or gas, is like you talked about sediment,
and it can build up and CAUs what do you
call that stuff that builds.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Up calcium carbonate?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, that stuff Okay, then can be in those canisters.
Depending on size your unit, most of them have two
canisters that heat the water. It's the most important is
to put a separate water filter where the cold water
goes into that tankless water heater m hm. And have
a whole house wanter ge on mine and that's just

(38:19):
solely used just for that because sediment and you'd be surprised,
you know it's in the water. It will it will
reduce the longevity of the unit.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, sure, sure, And again that goes back to really
I mean, I know it's exacerbated by a tankless because
it heats it up faster. But you know, even for
people listening to us, if you're going to get a
tank unit and its gas and you've got hard water
in your area, and some places have tremendously hard water

(38:51):
with limestone and stuff, it's gonna be you're gonna have
to clean it more with a tankless. But even with
a tank you're still I'm gonna have to flush that
tank out periodically or have a filter or a softener
or something along those lines. For sure, you're.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Exactly right, yes, sir, All right. Well, you know I
have an Eco Smart eighteen. It's eighteen thousand watts electric
and I have absolutely no problem with I installed it myself.
The filter require two forty amp double pole breakers drawn
eighteen thousand watts. Well, let me tell you that's instant

(39:30):
hot water immediately, and it works fine for me. The
only thing you have to do if you're going to
go with electric, of course, I would have somebody come
there and knows all about tankles, water heaters and the
electrical panel, because you'll need a room in that panel
to put those two double pole forty amp breakers in.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, for that much, you certainly will. How's your flow
on that electric for that particular brand. Do you know
how many gallons permitted?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I forget how many gallons permitted it is, But the
main factor is when you're getting the tankas water here
is what part of the country you're living in and
how cold it is during the winter. Not so much
how cold it is, it's what your water temperature, your
cold water temperature is in the winter. Okay, right here,
we're about fifty seven degrees are water temperature. I'm in

(40:21):
picking South Carolina, just better on the North Carolina border,
and the water temperature here in the cold of January
is fifty seven degrees. So my tankless water here, they
got matches that and that's gonna determine how how many
gallons of how water you're gonna have if you're up

(40:41):
up in Minnesota, and it's twenty below zero and the
water temperature is just above freezing. You're gonna you're gonna
need a bigger unit.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Sure, sure, but when it comes to.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Your question, I forget how many gallons.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I was just curious, but I could.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I could. I can be running the shower, I could
be running a washing machine. Even the kitchen sank and
still a plenty of hot water on stop.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Very good, Thank you, Don, all right, and.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
It's once again a pleasure listening to the master of everything.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it, right, thank you,
bye bye. All right, let me give you the phone number.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
and we got a couple open lines. Don brings up
a good point, and that is, unless you're going to
install this yourself, get with a plumber before you know. Like,

(41:38):
if you've got a tankless tank type water here, say
it's fourteen years old, you're gonna need a new water
here in the very near future. That's pretty much safe
to say. Now's the time to get with the plumber.
And maybe we can test several things. Maybe we can

(41:59):
tell the hardness of the water so you can get
an idea on the maintenance that's required. Knowing lifestyle that
you know how many people are going to be in
the house, that's going to certainly come into play. The
water temperature if you're going to electric. I know he
had great success, but if you listened, you know he's

(42:20):
got you know, two twenty he's got some juice going
in that For a standard type electric water heater. For
the ones I've seen, it's maybe a sixty amp circuit,
so you got to factor that in, and I'm he

(42:42):
seems very satisfyced. That's great. I've always kind of been
a little bit on edge on electric, but I'm one
hundred percent in on gas. But learning a little bit
about it and talking to the plumber that's going to
install that. Like Margaret when she was talking, she just
needs to get with the plumber, and she's read a

(43:03):
little bit about, she knows a little bit about, she knows,
she's inquired it. And what a lot of people don't
realize is tankless water heaters have been used in Europe
for years, I mean probably eighty years, maybe longer, so
it's not even really new to the United States anymore.
But it's certainly not new to folks in Europe. They

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