November 30, 2025 • 45 mins
# "At Home with Gary Sullivan": Tackling Winter Home Maintenance
Are your gutters ready for winter? In this hour of "At Home with Gary Sullivan," listeners get practical advice on preparing their homes for the cold season ahead. From proper gutter maintenance to basement insulation techniques, Gary and his expert guests share invaluable tips that could save homeowners thousands in potential damage and energy costs.
Gary kicks off the show emphasizing the importance of cleaning gutters before winter sets in to prevent ice dams, rot, and pest problems. Throughout the episode, he fields calls from homeowners across the country, offering personalized solutions for common seasonal challenges.
## Timestamps and Key Takeaways:
**10:15** - Mice-proofing garages: Jim learns about specialized foam insulation that deters rodents from entering through gaps in his garage structure
**18:30** - Basement insulation best practices: Rachel gets advice on proper moisture management with rigid foam panels to prevent mold issues
**32:40** - Energy efficiency with TVA expert Ashley England: Discussion of HVAC maintenance, filter replacement schedules, and energy assessment tools
**47:20** - Bathroom ventilation: Mike receives guidance on proper roof venting for bathroom exhaust fans
**50:05** - Roofing warranties explained: Benny learns about lifetime roofing warranties and the importance of proper installation
The conversation with Ashley England from Tennessee Valley Authority reveals why energy companies actually want consumers to save energy - it helps manage peak demand and reduces the need for expensive infrastructure that's rarely used. She also explains how homeowners can get free energy-saving kits and rebates through energyright.com.
Ready to make your home more comfortable and energy-efficient this winter? Listen now for expert advice that will keep your home warm, dry, and your energy bills manageable as temperatures drop.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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your home projects. You can jump on board and be
happy to discuss what you're working on. And let's go
to the phones and we have Jim Jim welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Hey, how are you doing this morning?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Doing fine? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Good good.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I got a question. I've got a building. It's like
a two car garage that was built back probably in
the late fifties and they had insulated it on the
side and you know, on the top there. I but
I get a ton of mice in that. So I
took the insulation out of the top, out of the rafters.
(01:53):
But at the top where they stopped the board, there's
that gap right there, and I think they're still going
down in there. And is there anything I can seal
that off with? Like would the phoam insulation work or
is there a better way to do it?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, I would say so. First, I guess I got
to tell you why is that gap? Is that just
the way it's built? Does it serve a purpose? I
don't want you to fill something up if it's like
a soft inventing or something along newse lines.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, No, it's just this is like a homemade you know,
the building's homemade. It wasn't like a pre pab thing
or anything. They just kind of build it and it
looked like they used whatever materials they had handy. I mean,
it's been there for all those years, but I don't
think it doesn't go to any soft and it's got
kind of a flat roof on it with a rubber
roof on it. Okay, so there isn't there isn't there
(02:43):
isn't even there isn't any any real venting in that building.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I just want to make sure we didn't screw something up.
The foam insulation would do it. In fact, is this
something you're looking at doing yourself. Is it a big area,
a small area, or.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What it's like the size of a car garage. But
I was going to try to do it myself if
I could, but I didn't know if the mice would
chew through that phone.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I can. They can, but they're the reason I asked
that question. I don't know if commercially they have a
mouseproof foam. They do have a mouseproof foam insulation that
comes in a can, So I was asking about the
size of an area you're trying to fill and the mice.
Actually it deters mice to begin with, so they're not
(03:29):
going to eat through that foam. So if you're gonna
have it done, you know, if it's going to take
a volume of this, I would call some foam insulators
and see if they have something where it'd be mouseproof.
I just know it's available in a can product.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay. And then one more question, a different theme here.
I've got a bathroom down there in the basement, and
it's got a brown shower out to brown toilet, brown sink,
and was thinking about remodeling it. By my plumber said,
do not get rid of that toilet, because he said
(04:08):
the older ones have more gallons than new ones than
they play they do. So I get I guess the
only option is I either get all new or work
my decor around the brown stuff. You know, But I mean,
there's nothing wrong with them.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They're just old. Yeah, no, I understand. So a little
comment here is you can have you know, I'm not
talking about the toilet, but I am talking about the
tub and maybe the sink. You can have those professionally refinished.
I wouldn't try it myself. I have yet to see
one that looks really good. That was a do it
(04:48):
your selfer's project. But they do have products out there,
just don't be seduced by it. There's a company called
Miracle Method. I talked about this at the very beginning
of today's show. I've used them before on tubs. They
do a great job. Not cheap, but it's a heck
of a lot cheaper than tearing it out and putting
(05:08):
in a new tub, right right. I always tell you
that it's a substantial product because they make a living
in a lot of cases of doing college dorm rooms,
in showers and in hotels. So it's a very durable product.
And you know, you get all kinds of selections of colors,
(05:30):
and you can ask about the toilet. I've just never
heard that they do a toilet, but you never know.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well, you have a great.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Day, all right, very good. Thanks for the call. Appreciate Jim,
take care all right, and Rachel, welcome.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
How are you doing fine? Thank you good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have also a question about insulation. We're working on
insulating a basement and we have two inch rigid foam
on the exterior, okay, and we're wondering it's like a
garden view and then on the sides and then it
goes to a walkout. So on the garden view part,
you know, the top is going to be the wood studs,
and then we have cement and we don't We're really
(06:11):
trying to build to not create any sort of mold issues.
I don't want to use spray foam just with the
off gassing and everything, and so we're wondering if we
put the rigid foam on the inside as well. Are
we going to trap all of the moisture in between
those two foam and get an issue, or do you
do something different when they've already A good.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Question because installation and a basement is a little bit
of a challenge because there is there's a lot of
water vapor that goes through that concrete wall. I mean
it's like eight gallons a day or something, so you
got to be careful. Usually what in this this whole
philosophy or way of doing it is changed over probably
(06:56):
the last twenty five thirty years. It used to be
we put in there with a vapor barrier. I remember
building basements with my dad of you know, studding out
a wall and packing it with fiberglass insulation and covering
it with plastic, and that's the way that was standard
building practices. And then the mold came along and as
(07:19):
that water was coming in, it was getting trapped behind
that plastic which was a water vapor, and it would
get moldy in some cases, not all cases, but in
some cases. And in fact, it was even cod to
have a vapor barrier there, that's how crazy it was.
Now kind of the common building practices is if it's
(07:39):
below grade, you would definitely not want to have a
closed cell phone, but you can have an open cell phone.
You can have insulation, but you don't want a vapor barrier.
So building practice now, as they're saying, just welcome the
moisture in. It's welcomed in right now, and then if
(08:01):
it gets too humid or there's too much moisture, control
it with air exchanging units or dehumidifiers, but don't trap
it behind the insulation. So okay, that's what I would
do is I would just use open, open cell foam
panels and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So you would still glue the panel to the cement
and then make your stud wall on top of that
and then use your batting inside of their.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No no, no, no, well you could you could. You
can do it that way, or you could just build
your stud wall and you could just use a two
inch open cell foam panel in between the studs if
you wanted to.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So you won't have an issue with those studs getting
moldy since they're touching the concrete.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You could move that out also, so you could put
the you know, there's so many ways of doing it.
You could also put the foam on the walls and
just bring the stud out and not put insulation or
you know, I think you said you'd put the phone
panel out in build the wall, which is fine, and
then put insulation in there. It's fine as long as
(09:12):
you don't incorporate a vapor barrier in there, Okay, okay, So,
and then you can put multiple layers of insulation on
top of each other unless you start mixing open cell
and closed cell, or with a vapor barrier, not a
vapor bearer, that you can get in trouble that way.
You can get in trouble using a close cell phone
(09:33):
or a vapor barrier just even on the outside of
the studs would cause you problem. They'll run you a
possibility of trapping moisture behind that wall. That's what we're
trying not to do.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, So, would you not like when you're putting that
open cell phone on the concrete, would you not like
work to seal it all up with like the spray
foam and everything. Do you just kind of let you
just to the point of that, letting that condensation come
or the vapor come through trying to seal it.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's correct, because especially when you talk about if you
have a foundation that has a block wall. You can
trap moisture in that block, which a lot of people
don't think about because there's no way really drying it out.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's underground, right, And am I correct in thinking that
the two inch rigid foam on the exterior is already
the vapor barrier, so the only wait for the vapor
to escape is coming inside.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'm going to guess that the foam that's on there,
hopefully is just open cell. I don't know, okay, okay,
I don't know what they've installed. I don't even know
how you can tell the difference. And I know that's
going to be your next question unless it's it's a.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
New build, so we could ask the builders.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, okay, fine, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
One more quick question then is so then we were
looking at a product called membrane by certainty, so it's
a vapor retarder instead of vapor barrier. Do you suggest
using that then on the rest of the house, like
where we've put fiberglass seem if we have the studs,
we have the fiberglass in between it, And then we
were looking at putting that vapor retarder on the walls
(11:17):
and the ceiling. Would that be a good solution.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I think as long as you're above grade, you'll
be fine doing that. And it's it's even being looked at.
I mean, the whole installation field's changing so much. I'm
not trying to be evasive. Yeah, we're now even looking
at homes that are doing what they call whole house encapsulation.
You know, we just spent the last fifty years talking
about how important it was to ven addics, and now
(11:40):
we're using and more ceiling addicts up now. Not in
every place in the country, not so much in a while,
but certainly in the southeast, southwest. It's kind of growing north.
But we're still using vapor bearriers as long as it's
above grade. It's almost reverse of what you would think.
You'd think, geez, you'd put a vapor barrier if it's
below grade. Is all that wet soil and everything. But no,
(12:02):
we don't want to trap it behind those walls upstairs.
We usually use in the attics outside walls vapor bearers being.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Used, so you still use a vapor barrier, like use
a vapor retarder that lets the water come through.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No vapor retarder would be a stop. It would be
a stop.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Okay, So like the new kind of the new smart
vapor retarders are not going to let the they're.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Not gonna let the moisture come through.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's correct, Okay, all right, good got good.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Questions, good questions though, even on foam installation, which is
you know, really it stops drafts, it does a really
better job than any other insulation. And even their rule
of thumb is you know, above grade. We want to
use you know one the close cell phone and where
(13:00):
you where you're down below. Let's just let that come
in because it's an excessive amount of water and then
we'll work with it there. So okay, well, good luck
on your bill, Thank you so much. All right, take care,
thank you. All right, we're gonna take a little break
and at the bottom of the are we're going to
talk with the TVA talking about saving money and we'll
(13:22):
talk about insulation. I'm sure. In the meantime, we'll take
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Gary Salvin. I know when we were talking about the
small smart vapor membranes and I was talking about vapor
barriers and everything, and I was jogging Danny when I
said near the end, I think I was starting to
get confused, but only just because it's a little bit different.
(16:36):
But the information I talked about is correct, so I'm
not talking about it now. That changed my mind on that.
But one of the things we're always trying to do
is we're you know, I've said it many many times
in this show, the number one enemy of your home
is moisture. And but we have you know, when we
look at when it's below grade, there's an excess amount
(17:00):
of moisture that's coming through that wall, whether it's a
block concrete foundation or a poor concrete foundation. In some cases,
we're always talking about the amount of water it's laying
against your foundation. And when we were at at the time,
we and for the most part, the vapor barrier is
(17:23):
always on insulation, facing the warm area of the home,
stopping moisture. That's the rule of thumb unless it's below grade.
But for years it was vapor barrier everywhere, and when
we started really getting into finishing basements and theaters and
(17:44):
all that. We were putting walls up, and we were
packing it with insulation which had a vapor barrier on
it right up against the concrete wall, and there was
a lot of water vapor that was coming in and
it was you know, being absorbed by the wood. It
was being absorbed by or is laying with the wetness
(18:04):
was getting in the insulation. It's organic material. There's mold spores,
and we were having mold behind those walls because of
the amount of water that was invading. Now that's different
when it's above grade, so we usually use for the
most part, we use a vapor barrier on attic floors.
(18:25):
We use it on exterior walls because there's you know,
there's obviously some moisture coming in, but we're blocking that
and there's not enough that where it's going to get
mold behind that wall. But when we get below grade,
we're not blocking that. We're allowing that moisture to come in,
(18:45):
and we're trying to control that moisture with their exchange
units and dehumidifiers because we don't want to trap that
water behind those walls. So I hope that makes sense
to you. I know as we were talking, I was
even kind of stumbling and getting a little bit confused.
But in essence, that's your rules of thumb. That's the
(19:07):
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We just had a great discussion regarding insulation and we're
going to continue that because i'm joined with Ashley England.
She is with the Tennessee Valley Authority and she's our
energy expert. Ashley, welcome that home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Thank you so much for having me. It's great to
be here.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, we were just chatting about insulation, and why don't
we start with you describing exactly. We've all heard about it.
We heard about it in great school and everything else.
The Tennessee Valley Authority. What is it?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, you know a lot of folks didn't grow up
around here, So it's always a good reminders. The Tennessee
Valley Authority. It provides electricity for one hundred and fifty
three local power companies. We serve about ten million people
across seven states in the Southeast, and we also serve
about sixty large industrial customers. I think some of the
(23:22):
more important things to know is that we don't get
taxpayer funding. Rather, our revenues come from the sale of electricity.
But we do a lot more than just generating sell electricity.
We also ride flood control, navigation, and land management for
the Tennessee River System, and we assist local power companies
and regional governments with economic development efforts. So we like
(23:43):
to say that we like to touch folks, touch things
that make the Tennessee Valley a wonderful place to live,
work and play.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Very good you said that. Well, you also said something
about generating electricity, and I hear a lot of things
and read a lot of things about the future of
generating electricity, and it's almost kind of scary. The need
for electricity is increasing, is it not.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, absolutely, We're seeing a ton of growth in our region.
It's growing really faster around here than it is in
some other parts of the United States. But between all
the influx of folks moving to this beautiful area, as
well as you know, electrification of equipment and manufacturing, and
then of course the data needs, there's a lot of
(24:29):
growth in the area.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, sure is. So as a homeowner, I know the
goal is to conserve. As a homeowner, to conserve electricity,
can serve our energy needs, to minimize building more plants,
(24:51):
I guess, or more ways to produce electricity, and to
keep our bills down, which everybody's focusing on. So let's
talk about, you know, what a homeowner can do. Where
is it start? I guess one of the bigger use
of the uses of energy in our homes furnaces, water heaters,
(25:16):
doing the wash, that type of thing.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
That's right, those large appliances. But really the largest utilizer
of energy in your home is your your HVAC system.
It's nearly and sometimes more than half of your home's
energy used. So that is definitely the area you want
to point yourself into. If you're you're you know, one
of the things you can do to get a handle
(25:40):
on your bills is to make sure that your HVAC
is running at its full potential. One of the things
we really love to suggest people do is go ahead
and get their h FAC tuned up twice a year.
You want to do that, you know in this season
right now fall, right before the winter really hits, and
then again in the spring before the summer heat hits.
That it's you know, it's just like your yearly checkup, right,
(26:03):
it's it's going to prevent bigger issues from popping up
down the road. Your your tuneup's going to test your system.
They'll inspect your condenser and your evaporator coils as well
as the compressor and the refrigerant charge. And they'll also
make sure you're replacing your dirty air filters and that's
something we recommend folks do, you know, monthly every other
(26:24):
month maybe to prevent build up that can reduce the
system's efficiency. And if you're in the if you're served
by a local power company in the Tennessee Valley Authority territory,
you can get a fifty dollars rebate from us for
getting that tune up done by a member of our
Quality Contractor network. So we really try to help folks
offset the costs of the tune up and encourage people
(26:45):
to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, I'll tell you, Ashley, you bring up a great,
great point. I do it, and I do it twice
a year also. And you're talking about rebate. But I
tell people a lot of cases, if you have a
good heating and cooling company that you can you know
I have used in the past, and they're you know,
good people, they're reliable with stuff. If you have them
(27:09):
tune it up, they will usually give if you have
a problem, and you you know eventually will probably have
a problem, you'll go to the front of the line.
And of course when heating and cooling breaks down, it's
usually when it's really hot or really cold, and you
go to the front of the line. Because you're a
member of you're a customer, you're a good customer. You'll
(27:29):
also get discounts on parts. And I don't know if
you have the data on this, and I'll just throw
it out, you know. I think if you have that
tuned up, you increase the life of that HVA system
probably significantly, maybe twenty twenty five thirty additional life.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, that's exactly what we hear from the contractors that
we work with in our network that you know, you're
your tune up is going to help prevent issues. They're
going to be a to keep that system running more
efficiently longer. And of course, you know, if you do
need it to be replaced, it's not a cheap system.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's expense right, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
We offer rebates as well to help with the system
replacement if that is where you're at, you know, if
it's on its last legs. But yeah, we definitely think
it's one of the best things you can do. And
I know it's hard to remember and to schedule, but
you know, one of the things I love to do
is I just there are some some websites you could
(28:30):
just set like an auto subscribe for your air filters, right,
you know, you figure out your size and then it
just automatically shows up on your doorstep every two months,
and that's your trigger you remember, oh it's here, I
can replace that. And that way, when your your tune
up comes around to you don't have a nasty filter
clogging things up. Make it your hfter way.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, good, good point. And in fact, earlier in the
show today, I was telling people, you know, pleated filter
the manufacturer recommends, you know, ninety days every three months.
I said, this time of year, when you have more
activity in your home than you have probably any other
time of the year, change that thing at least every
sixty days because you're paying to heat that air and
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satisfy that thermostat. And if that filter is having difficulty
passing that air through, it takes longer to satisfy that thermostat.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
That's exactly right. And you know, I just I'm remindfulk too.
If you have pets, you definitely need to be doing
for thirty days. Oh you know, the hair.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Builds up in there. And you know if.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Anybody who's waited a little too long and taken it
out and thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe they've
been sitting in this bed so oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Is there a way do what yourselfer can do in
energy assessment in their home.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
We have this amazing dy do it yourself Home Energy Assessment.
I really love this tool for folks. If you're not
really sure where to start, you know, maybe you do
get your h FAC tuned up regularly, you change your filters,
but you know your bills are maybe higher than you
want them to be, or your house just isn't as
cozy as you want it to be. This is a
great tool. It takes just maybe five six minutes to take.
(30:15):
You are going to answer some questions about your home.
I recommend you take it on your phone so you
can kind of walk around the house and look at
the different systems because it's going to ask you some
questions you may not know the answer to off the
top of your head. And at the end, you're going
to get a tailored list of recommendations, so tailored to
your home and the input you gave to that assessment
to help you save. And right now, if you take
(30:37):
that assessment, you're going to get a free energy saving
kit shipped to you in the mail. You're going to
have great energy saving gadgets in there, things like LED
light bulbs and filter whistles, and then you're also going
to have a ten dollars Home Improvement Store gift card
in there just to help you get started on your
energy saving journey. So it's free to take and you
get that kit for freeing the mail. So it's a
(30:58):
really great deal.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Excellent. What kind of what's the website they go.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
To, Yeah, it's energyright dot com and you can also
find all the information about the rebates I mentioned earlier
there too, Energy right dot com.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Energy right dot com, because somebody's gonna ask me, like
on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh everybody writ it down.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, So is the main reason. Obviously, you folks
sell the energy, and you know some people right now
are thinking like, well, why is the peerson selling the
energy teaching people how to save energy? Kind of explain that,
because I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, you know, we get this question a lot. But
you know, we kind of started our conversation about all
the growth in the area, and it can be it's
related to that. You know, when we can lower demand
for energy, especially at peak time. So you think of
the cold winter mornings, everybody's getting up, maybe somebody's taking
a hot shower, somebody's using a load jar, somebody's cooking
(32:01):
on the stove, baby, somebody's watching TV that and your
h fact of course, is just working really hard to
keep your house warm at that time.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
That's what we call a.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Peak energy time. And so when we can lower energy
use at those peak needs, that means that TVA saves
on operational costs and it reduces our need to invest
in infrastructure to only serve peak needs. Right, that's the
very expensive infrastructure that you only get to turn on
and use a few times a year. So when we
(32:31):
don't have to do that, that helps us maintain low
rates and a more reliable and resilient grid. And you know,
right now, with all this growth, it kind of means
that there's more energy available to go around so that
we can support all this growth. Because we do want
to support this growth. We want to enable you know,
great jobs to come into our area and companies to
set up shop here, so we can just keep the
(32:54):
economy humming. So that's our goal, and that's why we
invest in programs like this.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Wow, good goals and a good benefit to the consumer too.
And you know, we start talking about the bigger appliances
and we got into the furnace and everything. One of
the refrigerators, I know they're big energy users, but I
think what everyone needs to know is today's refrigerators, ovens
and things, they're so so much more efficient than they
(33:22):
were ten or fifteen years ago. And kind of not rethink.
But you know a lot of people have an older
refrigera they use as a backup, which I guess is fine,
but that's probably an energy hog in a lot of homes.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yes, you know, that's actually one of the things that
we try to flag when we do home energy evaluations.
You know, you're exactly right, like, if your fridge is
over ten to fifteen years old, it's going to drive
up higher energy bills, and you know, so you have
to decide is it worth it to keep it?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
You know the dad with the beer fridge in the
garage is kind of a class. Beer's getting expensive, right,
that's right, So you might need to downgrade your beer
purchase if you're going to keep it in the.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Old get a little smaller fridge, get a newer one,
and get a smaller one. I guess is the answer
for that, Well, yeah, I'll tell you it. You know,
we got through the whole light bulb thing. I know,
we worked our way through that for about twenty years.
I know people are still converting in the LEDs, but
I'm sure that's been a pretty big savor of energy
(34:34):
for TVA.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and we're still you know, that's that's
why we include those in those kids and we still
see so that haven't done that. You know, a lot
of semple kind of got burned by the first round
of h CFL and LED lights that quality, Yeah, and
that's all they remember.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So we try to when we go.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Into folks homes and remind them that, hey, the new
ones are great. You can get them in a nice,
warm quality and switching to LED lighting it's gonna save
you about seventy five percent compared to a traditional incandescent Bold. Yeah,
so I mean that we're talking, you know, two hundred,
two hundred and twenty five dollars a year depending on
(35:18):
how much you use your lights. So that's worth it,
and I definitely recommend people look into that.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Very good. Hey, Ashley, thank you so much for giving
up some of your time on this Thanksgiving weekend. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh well, thank you so much for having me, and
I hope everybody saves warm and cozy as the weather
gets colder.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Very good, Thank you much, Thank you very much. All right,
let me give you the phone number you can join us.
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Back to work. We go for about nine minutes before
the top of the hour and uh, let's get back
to the phone calls. You can join us. Love to
hear from you and Mike. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh yes, how you doing good?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Good?
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I just had a one quick question for you. I
think you could get a new roof put on and uh,
I wanted to run a dolphins from the from the baths.
Instead they got the builder had them dumped in this
off it and when I talked to the roof he
wouldn't recommend it because he said, you're just adding another
(39:06):
penetration in your roof or potential you know, a failure.
I guess you could say, you know, a leak or
something could happen. Just want to get your take on that.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, whenever you penetrate anything, I mean that that would
be a true statement. That's probably the best place to
vent it. But that's true. You put a skylight in it,
you got another penetration. You put a plumbing pipe up
e vent pipe, that's another penetration, A chimneys of penetration.
(39:39):
And when you have problems with roofs, where those problems
usually where the penetrations are, so I'm not going to
argue that you know, you know, you know you shouldn't
do it. That's probably the best place for it. However,
if you you know, you get an exhaust fan and
(39:59):
you read it, the first thing they'll tell you is
u through the through the you know, through the soft
or through the roof, and then it'll always talk about
the closest point. The closest point with the least amount
of turns is where they recommend it. So if going
up and into the roof is the best place, I'd
(40:19):
probably put it there. If going out to the sofa,
you just want to make sure it's when it's by
the soft I'm always worried that one. It's exhausting that
the soffit's allowing that air to come back into the attic.
So placement in the soffit I think is critical to.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Okay, but yeah, I appreciate time.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, I'm not gonna dispute what he tells you. Any
penetration through a roof, that's you know, that becomes one
of the weakest links.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
Yeah, I just thought laying it up there in the soffit,
you know, maybe actually I need to get up there
and logan maybe you know, causing some mold or something.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I mean, I mean just remember it's hot, wet air,
you know, so it certainly, you know, can can be
an issue. I'd prefer, you know, actually a vent extender
a little bit away from the sofat, not just laying
in the soffit.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
Yes, all right, sir, I appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. All right, we'll go to Benny.
Benny welcome.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
Good morning, Gary. How are you today?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm doing fine? How about you?
Speaker 8 (41:30):
Well, I'm great. I can't complain. Talk about Ruth So
my neighborhood a roof it was so architect Shingles guaranteed
thirty five years. After twenty some years, he was leaking
so bad, damaged some of the dick and I had
a roofer come in to tow it all out and
(41:53):
replace Ruth in the damage part of the dick. And
now he came up, he's, I don't use any name.
Two or three roofs, he said, I won't use many
more because see, don't listen to guarantee is no good.
He said, I've come up with an Owen's corning roofing
(42:13):
and it's guaranteed as long as you own the house
and material and labor. I've never heard of any roofs like.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
That, have you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, Yeah, that whole roofing category has changed a lot
because the shingles have changed a lot. There's not as
much asphalt in the shingles. They're thinner than they used
to be. And that's why roofs. You know, when you
have a thirty year guaranteed roof, quite honestly, you know
if you'll never get thirty years out of it. You
might get twenty four, you might get twenty, you might
(42:45):
get twenty five. But then the whole thing came where
insurance companies aren't necessarily guaranteeing that roof that they'll pay
full value during storm damage. They pro rate them based
on the life of the roof. So Owen's corning, and
there's a couple of them now that are doing lifetime
warranties I and I gotta tell you, the lifetime warranty
(43:10):
is great, but you've got to have a roofer that
is kind of certified. In those shingles, they got to
be installed exactly. That whole roofing exactly, it's more of
a system than it is just a shingle. So and
I'm not saying that's bad. I'm just saying that warranty
has got a lot of must dos. You know, if
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you don't have proper ventilation in the roofing that that
warranty is void. If you're not gonna have you know,
if you put the shingles over another roof, that warranty
is bad bad. If it's not installed with the right
amount of nails, that warranty is void. So yeah, the
Owen's Corning benny is a great, great roof. It is
(43:57):
a great shingle. It's a wonderful warranty. They've just started
doing that. I've had Owens Corning roofing on my house
two times and uh, it's a it's a great product.
So I think you'll have good luck. Just make sure
you have a very good roofer and certified with the
Owens Corning shingle and you'll have a very good lifetime warranty.
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to the phones and we have Jim Jim welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Hey, how are you doing this morning?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Doing fine? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Good good.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I got a question. I've got a building. It's like
a two car garage that was built back probably in
the late fifties and they had insulated it on the
side and you know, on the top there. I but
I get a ton of mice in that. So I
took the insulation out of the top, out of the rafters.
(01:53):
But at the top where they stopped the board, there's
that gap right there, and I think they're still going
down in there. And is there anything I can seal
that off with? Like would the phoam insulation work or
is there a better way to do it?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, I would say so. First, I guess I got
to tell you why is that gap? Is that just
the way it's built? Does it serve a purpose? I
don't want you to fill something up if it's like
a soft inventing or something along newse lines.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, No, it's just this is like a homemade you know,
the building's homemade. It wasn't like a pre pab thing
or anything. They just kind of build it and it
looked like they used whatever materials they had handy. I mean,
it's been there for all those years, but I don't
think it doesn't go to any soft and it's got
kind of a flat roof on it with a rubber
roof on it. Okay, so there isn't there isn't there
(02:43):
isn't even there isn't any any real venting in that building.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I just want to make sure we didn't screw something up.
The foam insulation would do it. In fact, is this
something you're looking at doing yourself. Is it a big area,
a small area, or.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What it's like the size of a car garage. But
I was going to try to do it myself if
I could, but I didn't know if the mice would
chew through that phone.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I can. They can, but they're the reason I asked
that question. I don't know if commercially they have a
mouseproof foam. They do have a mouseproof foam insulation that
comes in a can, So I was asking about the
size of an area you're trying to fill and the mice.
Actually it deters mice to begin with, so they're not
(03:29):
going to eat through that foam. So if you're gonna
have it done, you know, if it's going to take
a volume of this, I would call some foam insulators
and see if they have something where it'd be mouseproof.
I just know it's available in a can product.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay. And then one more question, a different theme here.
I've got a bathroom down there in the basement, and
it's got a brown shower out to brown toilet, brown sink,
and was thinking about remodeling it. By my plumber said,
do not get rid of that toilet, because he said
(04:08):
the older ones have more gallons than new ones than
they play they do. So I get I guess the
only option is I either get all new or work
my decor around the brown stuff. You know, But I mean,
there's nothing wrong with them.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They're just old. Yeah, no, I understand. So a little
comment here is you can have you know, I'm not
talking about the toilet, but I am talking about the
tub and maybe the sink. You can have those professionally refinished.
I wouldn't try it myself. I have yet to see
one that looks really good. That was a do it
(04:48):
your selfer's project. But they do have products out there,
just don't be seduced by it. There's a company called
Miracle Method. I talked about this at the very beginning
of today's show. I've used them before on tubs. They
do a great job. Not cheap, but it's a heck
of a lot cheaper than tearing it out and putting
(05:08):
in a new tub, right right. I always tell you
that it's a substantial product because they make a living
in a lot of cases of doing college dorm rooms,
in showers and in hotels. So it's a very durable product.
And you know, you get all kinds of selections of colors,
(05:30):
and you can ask about the toilet. I've just never
heard that they do a toilet, but you never know.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well, you have a great.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Day, all right, very good. Thanks for the call. Appreciate Jim,
take care all right, and Rachel, welcome.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
How are you doing fine? Thank you good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have also a question about insulation. We're working on
insulating a basement and we have two inch rigid foam
on the exterior, okay, and we're wondering it's like a
garden view and then on the sides and then it
goes to a walkout. So on the garden view part,
you know, the top is going to be the wood studs,
and then we have cement and we don't We're really
(06:11):
trying to build to not create any sort of mold issues.
I don't want to use spray foam just with the
off gassing and everything, and so we're wondering if we
put the rigid foam on the inside as well. Are
we going to trap all of the moisture in between
those two foam and get an issue, or do you
do something different when they've already A good.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Question because installation and a basement is a little bit
of a challenge because there is there's a lot of
water vapor that goes through that concrete wall. I mean
it's like eight gallons a day or something, so you
got to be careful. Usually what in this this whole
philosophy or way of doing it is changed over probably
(06:56):
the last twenty five thirty years. It used to be
we put in there with a vapor barrier. I remember
building basements with my dad of you know, studding out
a wall and packing it with fiberglass insulation and covering
it with plastic, and that's the way that was standard
building practices. And then the mold came along and as
(07:19):
that water was coming in, it was getting trapped behind
that plastic which was a water vapor, and it would
get moldy in some cases, not all cases, but in
some cases. And in fact, it was even cod to
have a vapor barrier there, that's how crazy it was.
Now kind of the common building practices is if it's
(07:39):
below grade, you would definitely not want to have a
closed cell phone, but you can have an open cell phone.
You can have insulation, but you don't want a vapor barrier.
So building practice now, as they're saying, just welcome the
moisture in. It's welcomed in right now, and then if
(08:01):
it gets too humid or there's too much moisture, control
it with air exchanging units or dehumidifiers, but don't trap
it behind the insulation. So okay, that's what I would
do is I would just use open, open cell foam
panels and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So you would still glue the panel to the cement
and then make your stud wall on top of that
and then use your batting inside of their.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
No no, no, no, well you could you could. You
can do it that way, or you could just build
your stud wall and you could just use a two
inch open cell foam panel in between the studs if
you wanted to.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
So you won't have an issue with those studs getting
moldy since they're touching the concrete.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You could move that out also, so you could put
the you know, there's so many ways of doing it.
You could also put the foam on the walls and
just bring the stud out and not put insulation or
you know, I think you said you'd put the phone
panel out in build the wall, which is fine, and
then put insulation in there. It's fine as long as
(09:12):
you don't incorporate a vapor barrier in there, Okay, okay, So,
and then you can put multiple layers of insulation on
top of each other unless you start mixing open cell
and closed cell, or with a vapor barrier, not a
vapor bearer, that you can get in trouble that way.
You can get in trouble using a close cell phone
(09:33):
or a vapor barrier just even on the outside of
the studs would cause you problem. They'll run you a
possibility of trapping moisture behind that wall. That's what we're
trying not to do.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, So, would you not like when you're putting that
open cell phone on the concrete, would you not like
work to seal it all up with like the spray
foam and everything. Do you just kind of let you
just to the point of that, letting that condensation come
or the vapor come through trying to seal it.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
That's correct, because especially when you talk about if you
have a foundation that has a block wall. You can
trap moisture in that block, which a lot of people
don't think about because there's no way really drying it out.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It's underground, right, And am I correct in thinking that
the two inch rigid foam on the exterior is already
the vapor barrier, so the only wait for the vapor
to escape is coming inside.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'm going to guess that the foam that's on there,
hopefully is just open cell. I don't know, okay, okay,
I don't know what they've installed. I don't even know
how you can tell the difference. And I know that's
going to be your next question unless it's it's a.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
New build, so we could ask the builders.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, okay, fine, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
One more quick question then is so then we were
looking at a product called membrane by certainty, so it's
a vapor retarder instead of vapor barrier. Do you suggest
using that then on the rest of the house, like
where we've put fiberglass seem if we have the studs,
we have the fiberglass in between it, And then we
were looking at putting that vapor retarder on the walls
(11:17):
and the ceiling. Would that be a good solution.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I think as long as you're above grade, you'll
be fine doing that. And it's it's even being looked at.
I mean, the whole installation field's changing so much. I'm
not trying to be evasive. Yeah, we're now even looking
at homes that are doing what they call whole house encapsulation.
You know, we just spent the last fifty years talking
about how important it was to ven addics, and now
(11:40):
we're using and more ceiling addicts up now. Not in
every place in the country, not so much in a while,
but certainly in the southeast, southwest. It's kind of growing north.
But we're still using vapor bearriers as long as it's
above grade. It's almost reverse of what you would think.
You'd think, geez, you'd put a vapor barrier if it's
below grade. Is all that wet soil and everything. But no,
(12:02):
we don't want to trap it behind those walls upstairs.
We usually use in the attics outside walls vapor bearers being.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Used, so you still use a vapor barrier, like use
a vapor retarder that lets the water come through.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No vapor retarder would be a stop. It would be
a stop.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Okay, So like the new kind of the new smart
vapor retarders are not going to let the they're.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Not gonna let the moisture come through.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's correct, Okay, all right, good got good.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Questions, good questions though, even on foam installation, which is
you know, really it stops drafts, it does a really
better job than any other insulation. And even their rule
of thumb is you know, above grade. We want to
use you know one the close cell phone and where
(13:00):
you where you're down below. Let's just let that come
in because it's an excessive amount of water and then
we'll work with it there. So okay, well, good luck
on your bill, Thank you so much. All right, take care,
thank you. All right, we're gonna take a little break
and at the bottom of the are we're going to
talk with the TVA talking about saving money and we'll
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But the information I talked about is correct, so I'm
not talking about it now. That changed my mind on that.
But one of the things we're always trying to do
is we're you know, I've said it many many times
in this show, the number one enemy of your home
is moisture. And but we have you know, when we
look at when it's below grade, there's an excess amount
(17:00):
of moisture that's coming through that wall, whether it's a
block concrete foundation or a poor concrete foundation. In some cases,
we're always talking about the amount of water it's laying
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(17:23):
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all that. We were putting walls up, and we were
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was being absorbed by or is laying with the wetness
(18:04):
was getting in the insulation. It's organic material. There's mold spores,
and we were having mold behind those walls because of
the amount of water that was invading. Now that's different
when it's above grade, so we usually use for the
most part, we use a vapor barrier on attic floors.
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We use it on exterior walls because there's you know,
there's obviously some moisture coming in, but we're blocking that
and there's not enough that where it's going to get
mold behind that wall. But when we get below grade,
we're not blocking that. We're allowing that moisture to come in,
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and we're trying to control that moisture with their exchange
units and dehumidifiers because we don't want to trap that
water behind those walls. So I hope that makes sense
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even kind of stumbling and getting a little bit confused.
But in essence, that's your rules of thumb. That's the
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We just had a great discussion regarding insulation and we're
going to continue that because i'm joined with Ashley England.
She is with the Tennessee Valley Authority and she's our
energy expert. Ashley, welcome that home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Thank you so much for having me. It's great to
be here.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, we were just chatting about insulation, and why don't
we start with you describing exactly. We've all heard about it.
We heard about it in great school and everything else.
The Tennessee Valley Authority. What is it?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, you know a lot of folks didn't grow up
around here, So it's always a good reminders. The Tennessee
Valley Authority. It provides electricity for one hundred and fifty
three local power companies. We serve about ten million people
across seven states in the Southeast, and we also serve
about sixty large industrial customers. I think some of the
(23:22):
more important things to know is that we don't get
taxpayer funding. Rather, our revenues come from the sale of electricity.
But we do a lot more than just generating sell electricity.
We also ride flood control, navigation, and land management for
the Tennessee River System, and we assist local power companies
and regional governments with economic development efforts. So we like
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to say that we like to touch folks, touch things
that make the Tennessee Valley a wonderful place to live,
work and play.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Very good you said that. Well, you also said something
about generating electricity, and I hear a lot of things
and read a lot of things about the future of
generating electricity, and it's almost kind of scary. The need
for electricity is increasing, is it not.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, absolutely, We're seeing a ton of growth in our region.
It's growing really faster around here than it is in
some other parts of the United States. But between all
the influx of folks moving to this beautiful area, as
well as you know, electrification of equipment and manufacturing, and
then of course the data needs, there's a lot of
(24:29):
growth in the area.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, sure is. So as a homeowner, I know the
goal is to conserve. As a homeowner, to conserve electricity,
can serve our energy needs, to minimize building more plants,
(24:51):
I guess, or more ways to produce electricity, and to
keep our bills down, which everybody's focusing on. So let's
talk about, you know, what a homeowner can do. Where
is it start? I guess one of the bigger use
of the uses of energy in our homes furnaces, water heaters,
(25:16):
doing the wash, that type of thing.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
That's right, those large appliances. But really the largest utilizer
of energy in your home is your your HVAC system.
It's nearly and sometimes more than half of your home's
energy used. So that is definitely the area you want
to point yourself into. If you're you're you know, one
of the things you can do to get a handle
(25:40):
on your bills is to make sure that your HVAC
is running at its full potential. One of the things
we really love to suggest people do is go ahead
and get their h FAC tuned up twice a year.
You want to do that, you know in this season
right now fall, right before the winter really hits, and
then again in the spring before the summer heat hits.
That it's you know, it's just like your yearly checkup, right,
(26:03):
it's it's going to prevent bigger issues from popping up
down the road. Your your tuneup's going to test your system.
They'll inspect your condenser and your evaporator coils as well
as the compressor and the refrigerant charge. And they'll also
make sure you're replacing your dirty air filters and that's
something we recommend folks do, you know, monthly every other
(26:24):
month maybe to prevent build up that can reduce the
system's efficiency. And if you're in the if you're served
by a local power company in the Tennessee Valley Authority territory,
you can get a fifty dollars rebate from us for
getting that tune up done by a member of our
Quality Contractor network. So we really try to help folks
offset the costs of the tune up and encourage people
(26:45):
to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, I'll tell you, Ashley, you bring up a great,
great point. I do it, and I do it twice
a year also. And you're talking about rebate. But I
tell people a lot of cases, if you have a
good heating and cooling company that you can you know
I have used in the past, and they're you know,
good people, they're reliable with stuff. If you have them
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tune it up, they will usually give if you have
a problem, and you you know eventually will probably have
a problem, you'll go to the front of the line.
And of course when heating and cooling breaks down, it's
usually when it's really hot or really cold, and you
go to the front of the line. Because you're a
member of you're a customer, you're a good customer. You'll
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also get discounts on parts. And I don't know if
you have the data on this, and I'll just throw
it out, you know. I think if you have that
tuned up, you increase the life of that HVA system
probably significantly, maybe twenty twenty five thirty additional life.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, that's exactly what we hear from the contractors that
we work with in our network that you know, you're
your tune up is going to help prevent issues. They're
going to be a to keep that system running more
efficiently longer. And of course, you know, if you do
need it to be replaced, it's not a cheap system.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's expense right, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
We offer rebates as well to help with the system
replacement if that is where you're at, you know, if
it's on its last legs. But yeah, we definitely think
it's one of the best things you can do. And
I know it's hard to remember and to schedule, but
you know, one of the things I love to do
is I just there are some some websites you could
(28:30):
just set like an auto subscribe for your air filters, right,
you know, you figure out your size and then it
just automatically shows up on your doorstep every two months,
and that's your trigger you remember, oh it's here, I
can replace that. And that way, when your your tune
up comes around to you don't have a nasty filter
clogging things up. Make it your hfter way.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, good, good point. And in fact, earlier in the
show today, I was telling people, you know, pleated filter
the manufacturer recommends, you know, ninety days every three months.
I said, this time of year, when you have more
activity in your home than you have probably any other
time of the year, change that thing at least every
sixty days because you're paying to heat that air and
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satisfy that thermostat. And if that filter is having difficulty
passing that air through, it takes longer to satisfy that thermostat.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
That's exactly right. And you know, I just I'm remindfulk too.
If you have pets, you definitely need to be doing
for thirty days. Oh you know, the hair.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Builds up in there. And you know if.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Anybody who's waited a little too long and taken it
out and thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe they've
been sitting in this bed so oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Is there a way do what yourselfer can do in
energy assessment in their home.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
We have this amazing dy do it yourself Home Energy Assessment.
I really love this tool for folks. If you're not
really sure where to start, you know, maybe you do
get your h FAC tuned up regularly, you change your filters,
but you know your bills are maybe higher than you
want them to be, or your house just isn't as
cozy as you want it to be. This is a
great tool. It takes just maybe five six minutes to take.
(30:15):
You are going to answer some questions about your home.
I recommend you take it on your phone so you
can kind of walk around the house and look at
the different systems because it's going to ask you some
questions you may not know the answer to off the
top of your head. And at the end, you're going
to get a tailored list of recommendations, so tailored to
your home and the input you gave to that assessment
to help you save. And right now, if you take
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that assessment, you're going to get a free energy saving
kit shipped to you in the mail. You're going to
have great energy saving gadgets in there, things like LED
light bulbs and filter whistles, and then you're also going
to have a ten dollars Home Improvement Store gift card
in there just to help you get started on your
energy saving journey. So it's free to take and you
get that kit for freeing the mail. So it's a
(30:58):
really great deal.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Excellent. What kind of what's the website they go.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
To, Yeah, it's energyright dot com and you can also
find all the information about the rebates I mentioned earlier
there too, Energy right dot com.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Energy right dot com, because somebody's gonna ask me, like
on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Oh everybody writ it down.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, So is the main reason. Obviously, you folks
sell the energy, and you know some people right now
are thinking like, well, why is the peerson selling the
energy teaching people how to save energy? Kind of explain that,
because I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, you know, we get this question a lot. But
you know, we kind of started our conversation about all
the growth in the area, and it can be it's
related to that. You know, when we can lower demand
for energy, especially at peak time. So you think of
the cold winter mornings, everybody's getting up, maybe somebody's taking
a hot shower, somebody's using a load jar, somebody's cooking
(32:01):
on the stove, baby, somebody's watching TV that and your
h fact of course, is just working really hard to
keep your house warm at that time.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
That's what we call a.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Peak energy time. And so when we can lower energy
use at those peak needs, that means that TVA saves
on operational costs and it reduces our need to invest
in infrastructure to only serve peak needs. Right, that's the
very expensive infrastructure that you only get to turn on
and use a few times a year. So when we
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don't have to do that, that helps us maintain low
rates and a more reliable and resilient grid. And you know,
right now, with all this growth, it kind of means
that there's more energy available to go around so that
we can support all this growth. Because we do want
to support this growth. We want to enable you know,
great jobs to come into our area and companies to
set up shop here, so we can just keep the
(32:54):
economy humming. So that's our goal, and that's why we
invest in programs like this.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Wow, good goals and a good benefit to the consumer too.
And you know, we start talking about the bigger appliances
and we got into the furnace and everything. One of
the refrigerators, I know they're big energy users, but I
think what everyone needs to know is today's refrigerators, ovens
and things, they're so so much more efficient than they
(33:22):
were ten or fifteen years ago. And kind of not rethink.
But you know a lot of people have an older
refrigera they use as a backup, which I guess is fine,
but that's probably an energy hog in a lot of homes.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yes, you know, that's actually one of the things that
we try to flag when we do home energy evaluations.
You know, you're exactly right, like, if your fridge is
over ten to fifteen years old, it's going to drive
up higher energy bills, and you know, so you have
to decide is it worth it to keep it?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
You know the dad with the beer fridge in the
garage is kind of a class. Beer's getting expensive, right,
that's right, So you might need to downgrade your beer
purchase if you're going to keep it in the.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Old get a little smaller fridge, get a newer one,
and get a smaller one. I guess is the answer
for that, Well, yeah, I'll tell you it. You know,
we got through the whole light bulb thing. I know,
we worked our way through that for about twenty years.
I know people are still converting in the LEDs, but
I'm sure that's been a pretty big savor of energy
(34:34):
for TVA.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and we're still you know, that's that's
why we include those in those kids and we still
see so that haven't done that. You know, a lot
of semple kind of got burned by the first round
of h CFL and LED lights that quality, Yeah, and
that's all they remember.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So we try to when we go.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Into folks homes and remind them that, hey, the new
ones are great. You can get them in a nice,
warm quality and switching to LED lighting it's gonna save
you about seventy five percent compared to a traditional incandescent Bold. Yeah,
so I mean that we're talking, you know, two hundred,
two hundred and twenty five dollars a year depending on
(35:18):
how much you use your lights. So that's worth it,
and I definitely recommend people look into that.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Very good. Hey, Ashley, thank you so much for giving
up some of your time on this Thanksgiving weekend. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh well, thank you so much for having me, and
I hope everybody saves warm and cozy as the weather
gets colder.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Very good, Thank you much, Thank you very much. All right,
let me give you the phone number you can join us.
We'll talk a little home improvement. It's eight hundred eight
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Back to work. We go for about nine minutes before
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hear from you and Mike. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh yes, how you doing good?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Good?
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I just had a one quick question for you. I
think you could get a new roof put on and uh,
I wanted to run a dolphins from the from the baths.
Instead they got the builder had them dumped in this
off it and when I talked to the roof he
wouldn't recommend it because he said, you're just adding another
(39:06):
penetration in your roof or potential you know, a failure.
I guess you could say, you know, a leak or
something could happen. Just want to get your take on that.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, whenever you penetrate anything, I mean that that would
be a true statement. That's probably the best place to
vent it. But that's true. You put a skylight in it,
you got another penetration. You put a plumbing pipe up
e vent pipe, that's another penetration, A chimneys of penetration.
(39:39):
And when you have problems with roofs, where those problems
usually where the penetrations are, so I'm not going to
argue that you know, you know, you know you shouldn't
do it. That's probably the best place for it. However,
if you you know, you get an exhaust fan and
(39:59):
you read it, the first thing they'll tell you is
u through the through the you know, through the soft
or through the roof, and then it'll always talk about
the closest point. The closest point with the least amount
of turns is where they recommend it. So if going
up and into the roof is the best place, I'd
(40:19):
probably put it there. If going out to the sofa,
you just want to make sure it's when it's by
the soft I'm always worried that one. It's exhausting that
the soffit's allowing that air to come back into the attic.
So placement in the soffit I think is critical to.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Okay, but yeah, I appreciate time.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, I'm not gonna dispute what he tells you. Any
penetration through a roof, that's you know, that becomes one
of the weakest links.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
Yeah, I just thought laying it up there in the soffit,
you know, maybe actually I need to get up there
and logan maybe you know, causing some mold or something.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I mean, I mean just remember it's hot, wet air,
you know, so it certainly, you know, can can be
an issue. I'd prefer, you know, actually a vent extender
a little bit away from the sofat, not just laying
in the soffit.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
Yes, all right, sir, I appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. All right, we'll go to Benny.
Benny welcome.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
Good morning, Gary. How are you today?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm doing fine? How about you?
Speaker 8 (41:30):
Well, I'm great. I can't complain. Talk about Ruth So
my neighborhood a roof it was so architect Shingles guaranteed
thirty five years. After twenty some years, he was leaking
so bad, damaged some of the dick and I had
a roofer come in to tow it all out and
(41:53):
replace Ruth in the damage part of the dick. And
now he came up, he's, I don't use any name.
Two or three roofs, he said, I won't use many
more because see, don't listen to guarantee is no good.
He said, I've come up with an Owen's corning roofing
(42:13):
and it's guaranteed as long as you own the house
and material and labor. I've never heard of any roofs like.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
That, have you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, Yeah, that whole roofing category has changed a lot
because the shingles have changed a lot. There's not as
much asphalt in the shingles. They're thinner than they used
to be. And that's why roofs. You know, when you
have a thirty year guaranteed roof, quite honestly, you know
if you'll never get thirty years out of it. You
might get twenty four, you might get twenty, you might
(42:45):
get twenty five. But then the whole thing came where
insurance companies aren't necessarily guaranteeing that roof that they'll pay
full value during storm damage. They pro rate them based
on the life of the roof. So Owen's corning, and
there's a couple of them now that are doing lifetime
warranties I and I gotta tell you, the lifetime warranty
(43:10):
is great, but you've got to have a roofer that
is kind of certified. In those shingles, they got to
be installed exactly. That whole roofing exactly, it's more of
a system than it is just a shingle. So and
I'm not saying that's bad. I'm just saying that warranty
has got a lot of must dos. You know, if
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you don't have proper ventilation in the roofing that that
warranty is void. If you're not gonna have you know,
if you put the shingles over another roof, that warranty
is bad bad. If it's not installed with the right
amount of nails, that warranty is void. So yeah, the
Owen's Corning benny is a great, great roof. It is
(43:57):
a great shingle. It's a wonderful warranty. They've just started
doing that. I've had Owens Corning roofing on my house
two times and uh, it's a it's a great product.
So I think you'll have good luck. Just make sure
you have a very good roofer and certified with the
Owens Corning shingle and you'll have a very good lifetime warranty.
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