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January 4, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, best time of the day. I get to say,
good afternoon, Welcome now our number four and we're talking
home improvement and glad you could join me our phone
number if you've got to have a little conversation about
your home, maybe a problem. We spend a little bit
of time here talking about humidity levels. When it gets
called out, we certainly have to talk about the snow
that's heading our way in the next probably twenty four hours,

(00:23):
and help you get prepared for that. I am a
little tweeked about how everything's epic and megap but we
might have a pretty good snowfall here, we'll see, but
never hurts to be prepared. That being said, we're going
to get back to the phones. Our phone number is
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five and

(00:43):
Scott welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hey there, Gary.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yes, good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I've got a project in my basement redoing a shower.
So I'm not going to use one of these prefab
shower basins, okay, and so I'm going to tile the
whole thing and the in the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I just have a.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Couple of questions the should you tile the walls or
should you tile the floor first?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Or does it matter, well, I would. I would probably
till your floor first, and then go ahead and and
till the walls how high you want to go, do
your measurements and everything, make your cut at the base,
and then do your grouting in there. But I do
the floor first.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Should the should the floor be leveled or is it recommended?
This slope it too?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, you'd have a little bit of slope because you
got the drain, so we've got to have some degree
of slope, right.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And then I use this this polyaate no poly product,
Kurdie schlooter.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't know if you're familiar with.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
It, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Is that something that's recommended or is that kind of overkill?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
And you're putting us on a slab, right, so it'll
make it a little bit easier. I would definitely use
it if it were on a first floor bath rather
than a basement on a slab. So what it does
is how's the best way to describe it. It kind
of works as a transitional piece for being more solid

(02:27):
if that makes it is like I just did a
kitchen floor and we put the schlooter underneath that, just
because I didn't want to grout cracking or anything along
that it was big tiles and a big area.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
It yeah, good, good, But it.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Does make it sort of easier to work with.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it makes it easier to work with and gives
you a little bit more protection, I guess is the
best way to describe it. Sure, okay, thanks, all right,
take pictures. Love to see him, all right? Nine minutes
after the noon hour. Uh, let's go to Jim. Jim, welcome.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Missus Sullivan.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
Over the last thirty five years, he's saved me a
bulllow of money. And now I'm excited. I finally have
a tepic and chair with you. Just told the difference
between cast iron and steel bath.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
To lay it on me. I don't think I've ever
asked that question. I had a winging on that one.
How do you tell?

Speaker 6 (03:32):
All you have to do is pull the overflow cover
off the tub and run your finger behind it. And
if it's smooth, it's steel, if it's rough it's cast iron,
cast iron, or if you have an access stor and
you can look in there and you can shin the
light in there, Steel's going to be shiny paint and
cast iron is gonna be dark grayish black rough excellent.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know, it's funny the questions when he asked me
that I've had both, but I've I didn't really having
a quick answer, and I thought, I remember when the
steel tubs were put in the upstairs when we were
building the houses twenty five years ago, and I was
used to cast iron, and I remember hitting them, thinking, Wow,

(04:18):
this thing is nearly as solid as the cast iron tubs.
And that's the first thing that came to my mind.
But you're right, you take the.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Access good think you're right, you know if it but
but the good thing is even at the tub's thirty
years old, if he can feel behind it, yeah, the difference.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, because you don't know, I don't
know why people want to take those cast iron tubs out,
because that's got to be a nightmare. But he put
a liner over him. I tell that all the time.
I'm not anti steel tubs, but gosh, some of those

(04:56):
cast iron tubs, some of the older ones, even with
a clall, oh, those are so nice. I Tuger have
talked about Miracle Method on numerous occasions. I've used him
at my home, but I first became exposed to Miracle
Method and what they do is they refinished tubs, shower pans,

(05:20):
ceramic tile floors in a bathroom or kitchen. But anyway,
the Miracle Method that I first Saul talked to had
conversations with all the work was in Cleveland at the
Naari Show. This is probably fifteen years ago, and he

(05:43):
had in his booth it was beautiful. He was a veteran,
he was a fireman, and he bought this Miracle Method
franchise in Akron, Ohio as a side gig. He's going
to work on his days off. And he had an
old claw foot cast iron tub. I mean, I don't

(06:07):
even want to guess how much that thing weighed. And
he may have got it out of an old house
or scrapyard or something, because he had before pictures. Actually
he had another tub where it was half redone and
the other half was the old tub. Plus he had
these pictures of before and afters. And then he had

(06:30):
a cast iron tub that was completely done and it
was done in white, so it was looked just like
a brand new porcelain cast iron tub. And he had
the American flag and an eagle painted over the top
of part of the tub. For you know, his display

(06:52):
at the show, and when I saw that, I started
talking to this guy. That's how I first ran into
Miracle Method. And it was a franchise, he who had
the Cleveland Akron market and he might even have a
couple more markets now, But it was I always thought
that the folks that have the cast iron tubs and

(07:15):
they were going to redo these bathtubs or bathrooms that
are maybe I don't know, five by seven. I think
we had a caller today about one of those adding
a ceiling fan and this this person was going to
remodel this, this bathroom. And I said, I don't know

(07:39):
what it's going to cost you to have somebody come
in and remodel this. But this is fifteen twenty years ago.
I said, it's going to cost you. It'll cost you
ten to twelve thousand dollars to do that. God knows
what it costs now. I said, you got old ceramic tie. Yeah,
but it's pink and black. I understand it. We can

(08:01):
take care of that. Take that off. The walls in
the floor is going to be a nightmare. You've got
plaster and lath, you got a cast iron bathtub, and
then you got the floor, and you got the Van.
I mean you can either call Miracle Method let them

(08:22):
finish the toe walls, let them finish the bathtub. You
can use the roller rock on the floor. In fact,
our friend Bear up in New York, he sent me pictures.
This is a long time ago he did his bathroom
with us, and it's like those. Those products are such

(08:43):
quality products and substantial, and with some of the coatings
out today and the technology, they can be saved. I
mean you can keep them there. A lot of these
bath companies they do molds where they have abs plastic,

(09:04):
which is like hot tubs, like Jacuzzi hot tub plastic
that is a molded liner that can go right over
the tub, change out to plumbing a little bit, but
right over the tub. Or Miracle Method they could refinish
that and the floors in the walls. I mean, good
savings of money and a good quality looking product. Either

(09:27):
way you go there, certainly you can tear it out
and remodel. All right, let me give you the phone number,
and I invite you to give us a call. You
can either get a hold of us by seven four
nine fifty five hundred, or you can call us at
eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five will
continue taking your calls. You're at home with Gary Salvin
right here in fifty five KRC the talk station and

(09:50):
back ahead it we go in nineteen minutes after the noon.
Now you're at home with Gary Salvin, and let's get
back to the phones. If you'd like to join us,
please do talk a little home in per and run.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Welcome, Hey, thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Quite welcome.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Hey, I got a few cobwebs in my basement. It
seems like there's you know, you clean them and they
always get coming back. There's some way I can prevent
that or help myself so they ain't there anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, I'll tell you what it is, and I'll bet
you I can even tell you where they're at. What
do you think of that? Huh? So the joys that
are holding up the first floor, and then the joyce
pockets where the joyce kind of sit on the concrete wall,
and then we probably have some like rolled fiberglass insulation

(10:40):
stuffed in there. Is that where the cobwebs are.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Oh, they're just kind of through the joist is all
the way around okay here and there, I mean they're
just yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
The only way you'll get rid of this. So what
it is is, you know, spiders create cobwebs or you know,
webs to trap their food, and they build those webs
where there's ventilation. That's why you'll find them on topp
of registers or cold air returns on a wall. Okay,

(11:15):
it collects dust instead of food, and that air is
blown through. Even though it's stuffed with fiberglass, it's not
really totally sealed. It's just a pocket, right, somebody's stuff
that there's an airflow from outside and it's channeling right
down the corridor of the joist. So there's all these webs.

(11:42):
So I you know, work on ceiling off those joysts. Now,
how do you do that? The best way is to
get some expandable foam and or a foam insulator that
old homes and puts foam inside walls. They'll do those,

(12:05):
they'll do those choice pockets for you, and you won't
believe how much more comfortable that basement will be and
those cobwebs will go away.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh that is that would be great.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
I mean you can clean them and they're always another one.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, exactly exactly, But that's it. That's exactly what's going on.
And that fiberglassence is just kind of rolled in there.
You know, it's not tight fitting. I mean it's snug,
but it's you know, we use fiberglass for furnace filters,
so we know there's our infiltration.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Is there is there a spray to kill those critters?
There are those spiders that are already existing, and then
in those choices.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, there's a there's one that has a longevity. Except
I'm using it outside and I'm kind of a lost weather.
It can be used inside, but I'll give you the
name of it because I use it outside and it's great.
It's called Miss Muffets Revenge.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
I'm gonna have to write that.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Down, okay, Miss muff Miss Muffets Revenge. Okay, I'll take
care of the spiders. And then if you you know,
I want to pull out those uh that insulation in
there and maybe get an insulator in there to do

(13:27):
some expandable foam in there. You'll seal that up real nice.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
That product you talked about, Where do you purchase at?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Uh, the Miss Muffets Revenge you can find in hardware stores.
Lows would be a good place also, if you know,
I don't know if home depot carries or not, but
independent hardware stores and lows. I feel pretty Minards has it.
So you probably got some minards up there. Sure, yeah,
give them a check.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Hey, thank you so much, all right.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Thank you, Ron, appreciate it all right. That phone number
is eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five.
As we enter the new year, we think about what
type of home rent renovations add value to your property.
I'm always getting asked that question all the time. Where
do I make my best investment in my home? You know?

(14:24):
Do you make investments in your home that make the
property go up? Or do you make investments in your
home because cosmetically you're just bored, sick and tired of
looking at such and such, and there's bad investments to
make in your home. But what is the focus of
your point of making an investment in your home? Is
it I want to get all my money back? Sure,

(14:46):
we all want to get money back. Well, I think
the number one rated one by Nauri the last time
I read was a garage door and an entry door.
But if you're looking for building value to your home,
it's keeping it updated. It's more cosmetic and I guess

(15:09):
garage doors and entry doors can be cosmetic. But the
number one thing I guess is the same one we
talked about for years and years, and that's kitchen renovation.
Kitchen renovations they're expensive. It's a big undertaking. You got
the cost of appliances and countertops and cabinets, and probably

(15:31):
you're going to do some electrical and plumbing work. But
I know, if you're like me, you're always looking at
also trying to keep the cost down. And you know,
really what you want to do if you're renovating a
kitchen is really focus on the functionality of that kitchen
and do you want it modern or do you want

(15:52):
something that is stands the test of time. So I
guess right now we're seeing a lot of white painting cabinets.
We've even seen I've seen some avocado cop you know,
different colors of cadnetry creeping in and those are fine.
I'm not knocking anything. I mean, design is design, and

(16:13):
what you like is what you like. But a longer
life would be like cherry cabinets, maple cabinets. Start figuring
that in there, so it really you know, work with
your friends, work with a decorator. But it's a it's
an undertaking. It's a big undertaking. It's an expensive undertaking.

(16:38):
And I always joke with Sam from three Day Kitchen
in Bath. You know, I always go like, when you're sitting,
the first thing you do, you might go through magazines
or the internet and find all these beautiful pictures of
cabinets and beautiful pictures of lighting and beautiful kitchens, and

(16:59):
then you start working with somebody and your your taste is.
You know, your budget isn't quite where your taste is.
I guess that includes all of us. But you can
work backwards and there's always ways to shay. But set
a budget first, know how much you want to spend

(17:19):
to redo your kitchen, and then start collecting photos, and
then find a contractor and then start working. That's the key.
All right, Let's take a break. When we come back,
Dave has some questions regarding a deck, and we'll be
also happy to take your calls. It's seven hundred. Those

(17:39):
lines are open and we'll continue with your calls. You're
at home with Gary Salivan right here on fifty five
KRC detalk station. All right back in it and we go
twelve thirty two on your weekend and talking home improvement.
And if you missed some of the show today, feel
free to pick it up as a podcast. Each ours

(18:00):
available to you via podcast on the iHeart.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
App after the show, give it about a half an hour.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
After the show a half hour. But you have to
speed now right. I'm sorry, Sagan, I said, are you
up to speed right now? Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yes, I just have to hit submit on each one
of them.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
There you go, all right, very good, All right, let's
get to Dave. Dave welcome, Yeah, hi Gary.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
My daughter's got a newer home. I'm saying it's like
seven to ten years okay, and unfortunately the deck outside
is already rotten with his new great treated lumber that
we have these days. So next summer we're going to
be tearing off the decking and putting down some composite

(18:46):
on it.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Question, I've seen this stuff, this tape that you put
on top of the Joyce's yeah, kind of feel them.
But then I've also seen it was on now the
Home Bring the Show or something where they were like
some sort of like a paint or some sort of
ceiling on top of it.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, So the tape is you know, something like that
is a must. It really is just for other people
listening if you're going to tackle that project, because, as
you referred to Dave, the quality of the pressure treated lumber,
I mean it's only pressure treated down to I don't know,
five sixteenths of an inch, three ace of an inch,

(19:29):
not all the way down. And got the screw holes
and nailholes that are exposed, and you get that tape
and it water proofs them, it covers them up. It's
a rubber's band aid. I'm not familiar with the exact
product you're thinking of that you might see on a
home improvement show, but there is a lot of what
they call tripolymer ceilings. There's one I've talked about literally

(19:51):
for years. It's a very versatile product. It's called Geocial,
it's geo se l Geocial. It's a tripolymer silicone. It's
as thick as maple syrup. Okay, it's brushable, it's trillable.
It goes on very very thick. I'm sure that particular

(20:14):
product could be used in lieu of the tape because
it's a thick rubberized band aid. Basically that certainly you
know a screw or a nail can penetrate, but it
would create a rubberized protectant over that. So I don't

(20:35):
know what the product you saw was, and I don't
really have a name off the top of my head
for that product to replace that tape, but that would
be something I would feel comfortable using.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
So do you think the tape would be I mean
the gCO would be better than the tape.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
No. I think the tape's really easy to use. I
wouldn't hesitate to use it. Did they give a reason
why they weren't using it?

Speaker 4 (20:59):
No? No, Actually it was kind of like something going
on in the background of the they were modeling, and
I'm like, oh, look they painted something across the top.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Of the Yeah. Yeah. I think the whole thing is
to create something that is totally waterproof, so that, you know,
because on those they found out again the hard way.
You know, common sense would tell you that if you
pull those boards off and don't patch those holes, certainly
water could find your way to that hole. And when

(21:29):
it goes into that hole, it's into wood that has
not been treated. So you got to use something. I'm
sure the GSL would serve the purpose, but the tape's
really easy to use.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, I was thinking they could have. It might have
been that stuff you see on TV advertisement they paint
the bottom of the boat or something.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, so you know what, you're probably not that far
off because that flexial product, this GSL product, literally we
carried it in the hardware store long long, long time
ago before flex seal ever existed. And I remember when
I saw my first flex Seal product commercial TV. I went, huh,
that's just like that geosill. Gosal's a little thicker the

(22:12):
flex seal. They got it where you can do it
and an aerosol and everything else, but the geosal is
a good thick clear. It's actually used to like if
you had seams and gutters and around the down spouts inside.
You clean up a gutter and brush that out with
the geosil. I mean that that gutter will never leak.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Okay, so either one, but get something on there.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. All right, Well, thank you very much, Jarry.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. Take care all right. Our
phone number is seven fifty five hundred. If you've been
trying to get through, go ahead and jump on board
right now and we'll chat with you before we're out.
Of here at one o'clock hour, we were talking about
capitalizing investments in your house, and you know, do you
renovate for the investment or do you renovate because I'm

(23:04):
sick of that kitchen. You know, bathroom renovations kind of
fall in the same line as kitchen renovations. And we
all have that white elephant in many of our bathrooms now,
and that's a big, big jetted tub. When they came
out and they were hot as a firecracker, and now
a lot of people don't use them. They consume a

(23:26):
lot of hot water, and so people are kind of
looking at renovating that space, the bigger bathrooms. A couple
of mistakes I see people make taking that tub out
and then making a really really big shower. I wouldn't

(23:46):
do that. You can, you can, but what you got
a factor in is when you got that shower going
and that hot water going and everything, you want to
have that shower kind of warm enough. I mean, you're
taking a shower, right. There's a reason showers are a
little bit small. But if you do a big one,
you can. You just need multiple heads on the shower itself,

(24:11):
and you can also get you can pull out those
big tubs, and you might take a look at some
of the soaking tubs, maybe without jets, changing out the lights.
That would also be a pretty good idea, just to
update the looks of it, update the toilet, the vanity.

(24:32):
But you get your money out of a lot of
kitchen and bath renovations, for sure. Pass that along. I
got a bunch more. We may get all of them.
We may not get to all them. And that's okay.
We got tomorrow. Let's go to Gary, Gary Welcome.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yes, Yes, I used to used to do energy audits
for the federal government, Yes, sir, and that RCS program.
I ran across an interesting situation. I went to a
model home in northern Kentucky. Now mine was over ten
years ago Abouver fifteen, But there was a truck sitting
next to the model that had nothing but a bunch

(25:14):
of eurothane cock tubes in the bin. And I went
to talk to the guy who did. He said he
was a troubleshooter for you know, like pick a name
like Zerring or rees't have big home companies. His job
was to go behind the builders and to clean it
up and make and correct the problems that they left
behind when they didn't do the job right first time.

(25:36):
And he said he never used anything but one part
eurothane cock. And I said, and I mentioned GSL and
he said no, and here's why. And he gave me
a boy a paragraph and he said silicone. He had
nothing good to say about that, because the trouble is
with all these other cocks, you have to go through steps,
you have to read that pine print and go through steps,

(25:59):
and they still won't stick after a while because of
the the damage of the UV race. Euro thing cock
stands up to that nothing else does, and that's you know,
it's messare to put on, but it doesn't. When he
told me about the silicon was kind of funny. He
said he went to a home three months after it
was caught between the bricks and this and this and

(26:20):
the wood sighting, and he said he'd he pulled off
a rope of silicone cock about half an inch wide
and you know, about one hundred feet long, which was
like one of the garden hose was that he pulled
off the side of the house. Because on these cocks
say that they'll stick to each they'll stick to themselves,

(26:40):
but it doesn't really say anything about sticking to the building.
So anyway, this guy wasn't see Now, well, he's a
trouble cutter for one of the b home building companies,
and he wouldn't have anything but the one part of
your thing, Colock. No no crylic from bees lacks for
a silicone or anything else. One part of your thing,
because he said everything else, give a year or two

(27:02):
or ten, it will come off. He said, the euro
thing doesn't come off.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well where this fellow was going. And I just want
to tell you why I always recommend the GSL siliconized
sealant is this is this is not the sun is
not available to that area. Okay, so what what I'm suggestion?
So there is on a deck he was taking up

(27:27):
the floorboards. Okay, I'm a huge advocate of your thing clocking.
In fact, there's one called quad for mixed substrates, which
is just outstanding. But on the deck that we were
talking about, he was removing the deck boards and then
just creating a ceilant over the top ridge of the
joyst so that water couldn't get into the penetration where

(27:51):
the old nails were. So it's it's covered up from
the sun. But I hear you loud and clear for
outdoor calking around. Mixed substrates. Steal the brick, brick, the wood,
anything that is a mixed substrate. You're a thing by
far has the best UV resistance, the best adhesion, the

(28:17):
best flexibility. And you could paint it if you had to.
Where a silicon you can't, So you're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
That's the other thing the issue is is paint is
the ahgen. Nothing sticks more aggressively, not eurosing. If you
get some of that stuff on your hands, you know
exactly what I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yep, yep, I hear you, I hear you. Well, thank
you much for your comments. I appreciate it, all right,
and let me give you the phone number. It's seven hundred. Well,
take a break and Dave, you'll be up first. As
we work our way through the weekend. You're at home
with Gary Sullivan on fifty five KRC detalk station. Al. Right,

(29:00):
back to work we go, twelve forty six, talking a
little home improvement. Let's go to Dave. Dave, welcome, very
happy new year, Thank you, sir. Happy new year to you.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Yeah. Hey, I'm one of those bargain shoppers who goes
down to the reef store.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Uh huh.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
I'll give you a litany of things I have purchased
down there, all right, aar fraction of what you would
have paid in a big box store. For instance, brand
new Vinyl Sidi in all my house one hundred dollars,
which I installed myself. Yeah okay. Then a Larsen door,

(29:42):
a brand new Larsen storm door for thirty dollars.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I need to get down there, Dave and get me
a couple of those.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Thus repainted the exterior of my house, which only took
one now on a paint for ten bucks.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Backsplash on my kitchen, very attractive tile, four by four tiles,
plus the mortar mix and sticky stuff you put.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The tile up with, yeah, the matting.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Yeah, whatever goes behind it. And that was like fifty
five sixty bucks. And I got a brand new Larsen
no Warner ladder down at the restore. Now that one
was like one hundred and fifty bucks, which goes up
about twenty five feet. It's an aluminum ladder.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Uh huh.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
My point is simply this. You want to save a
bucket end of.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
The restore, you know what it's Those restores are awesome
and I was on the board when Carl Bergman came
up with the idea of creating the restore in the
Cincinnati area. They were a couple of them in the
United States at that point, but I think they have
five or six of them now, and it's it's it's

(31:02):
a great concept. You're exactly right, Dave. I always would
walk through the aisles where it's it's worth going down
and just walking through the aisles because you never know
what you're gonna find. I used to be fascinated with
all the different tiles, different ceramic tiles. I don't know
if the one down in bond Hill always had tons
of ceramic tile. I don't even know where they got

(31:24):
them from, but you know they were they weren't used tiles.
They were just.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Everything I bought was yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, somebody just donated them or whatever. And I always
thought for a backsplash one of the days, I always
wanted to go just get a bunch of collections of
odd and ND tiles. It'd be a little eclectic, but
for a backsplash, I think it'd really look cool if
you had, you know, had to write apartment or condo
or house or whatever, just using different kinds, even if

(31:55):
you cracked them in different places where it wouldn't be
just a straight four by four. So you go there,
you find out what's available, You let your imagination wander
a little bit. I think it's a great place to shop.
And and you you're right. If you bought all those
and did all those things, you saved yourself a ton
of money.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
Oh I did, believe me.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I did. Yeah, well, very good.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
You know, I know you support them, and.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I sure do. Yeah, it's a great concept. Uh. I
turned off the board, but still do occasionally. In fact,
we were going to have Joe on, who's the executive
director today, or we weren't going to. I just reached
out and asked him if he wanted to join us,
but he was out of town still in holiday modes.
So we'll get him back on and I'm sure we'll
talk about the restores. It's it's a great retail unit

(32:43):
in the greater Cincinnati area. And like I said, there's
five or six of their newest ones in Loveland.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
Now, well, I go up to the one in Fairfield
and the one down in bond Hill all the time.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, finding that space was the old Seer store that
that was a good find for Habitat, which turned into
the Fairfield Restore. So it's a great store, very good.
Thank you very much. Dave, you do the same. Thank you.
All right, talking home improvement, and I can't remember I

(33:14):
took a break, right, all right, took that break, all right,
I get back to my notes on Yeah, I was confused.
It's easy. I was just going through some of the
things since the new year, and I know people looking
at investing in their home, why they invested in their home,
what the return on that investment is. And we were

(33:36):
talking about kitchen and bath renovations. One of the things
that is these are according to bank rate dot com.
That's where I got this information. The third thing on
there was interesting and I totally totally see that, especially
since COVID, and that is basement conversions. It's a everybody's

(34:01):
looking for adding another room, expand the homes usable square
footage without doing anything really drastic to the house or
investing a lot. And a basement conversion from just a
place to store boxes to a kid's playroom to an
office to a workout area, well worth it. They say

(34:25):
the average cost of renovating abasement. Now we don't know
how fancy it is. Is eighteen thousand dollars, but it
has the potential to offer an eighty six percent return
on an investment. And believe me, if you've got kids,
I don't know ten in under, you're going to be
looking for room in your house, and the basement is

(34:48):
one of the first places I would look. You can
add insulation, you can add flooring, I'm telling you, with
the LVT flooring or the LVP the plank flooring, you
can make that basement renovation look awesome with minimal expense.

(35:09):
You can change the layout of the room, build walls,
two by four walls, and you can decide, you know
where you want to go on the plumbing. You know,
if you're starting to talk about putting an extra bathroom in,
it can get a little bit more pricey, but you know,
maybe that's something that's going to fit perfect for your house.
They don't all have to be theater rooms. A kid's

(35:33):
playroom would be great. It doesn't have to just be
for entertaining. And like I said, one of the things
we're seeing for basement conversions when I talked about adding walls,
maybe you have a little kids play area and then also,
I don't know, maybe we've got different times at their

(35:54):
home and you're working, but an office area. You know,
if they're in school, they're not playing, and so they
can use out at night, you can use the office
in the day. But my point being is that's a
really good return on investment eighty six percent. And one
of the things that we overlook as a renovation in
homes is taking our existing home and making it more

(36:18):
energy efficient. It is going to reduce the cost of
your utilities. So you know, take a look at the
you can take a look at all kinds of things, appliances,
heating and cooling equipment, the insulation and insulation goes with ventilation.

(36:44):
But all that energy efficiency adds up eventually to some
savings in terms of dollars. And exterior renovations those certainly
come into play too. Fresh coat of paint, maybe a

(37:05):
new entry door, maybe, like I just said, because I
could use two of them. We have a screen porch
on back and it needs to storm doors, and screen
doors makes it more presentable, makes it, if you're going
to sell, easier to sell. And I mentioned that one

(37:25):
of the biggest returns on investment, and it shows up
here in nexterior renovations, is replacing the garage door, the
front door, as we're just talking the vinyl sighting, anything
that adds curb appeal, you'll get a good return on
the investment itself. I'm sure our friend Ron Wilson would

(37:49):
argue landscaping has a good return on investment, and it
probably does. I don't have those facts in front of me.
And then there are other things, you know, renovations that
decrease the value of your home, and I bet you
can name most of them. And sometimes I don't really
look at things of investing as I'm doing this renovation

(38:13):
because I'm gonna get returns on my investment. If I
have a house, I kind of look at it if
that's what I want, and I'm investing in my house,
so be it. It's nice that I know it may
not deliver the investment that I put into it, but
if I really want it. And the first thing on
that list is in ground pools. But if you really

(38:36):
want that, and you can afford that, and it fits
your family's culture, have had it, high end kitchens, highly
personalized features. You know, another thing that you don't really
get your money out of. But I'm not so sure.
You don't. As a bedroom that's converted into a closet, Well,

(38:59):
if it's a real big bedroom, you're probably not going
to get your money out of it, But that can
be converted back to a bedroom fairly easily. So anyway,
just a little bit of information on what investments pay off.
But those garage doors you used to talk about with
our friends from Clok pay all the time. In some
of your track homes. As you drive through maybe a

(39:23):
new subdivision that's being built in the last probably ten
or twenty years, all the homes kind of look the same.
If it's a track built home, and they all have
their garages face in the street, and there's one garage,
one entry door, one garage one entry door, and they
all look the same. And maybe that's good. I don't know.

(39:48):
But after a while, I think sometimes people start renovating
and all of a sudden you put in a little
different type of door. You know, you got doors now
that almost look like glass. You got black garage doors.
You're painting your house is black and white. They did
that seventy five years ago, and now black and white.
And now I look at him, I go, wow, those

(40:08):
are so cool looking and you know, so changing it
up a little bit, add a little spice to your
life from curb appeal. And you know that little information
on how to get that investment back is probably important
to a lot of us actually, so I want to
pass that along, all right, So tomorrow we'll be talking

(40:31):
the winter storm. We'll be talking about snow removal and
all the things that can go wrong when you have
a big storm. I'm sure that will be the case.
And by the way, if you missed an hour, you
can pick that up the iHeart app the podcast for
each hour it's at Home with Gary Salvin and Danny Boy.
Thank you very much, and the happy New Year. And
you're now writing in the thirty ninth year doing this show.

(40:54):
Not you, but I've been doing it. You've been there
about half the time, so correct. Thank you very much,
So good Lord Willing, Danny and I'll both be back
tomorrow for more At Home with Gary Sullivan.

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