May 10, 2025 • 42 mins
Your calls, tips and questions with Gary. We also talk to our friends at Rhinoshield.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, the best time of the day. Good afternoon, Welcome
now number four at home with Gary Salvan, working our
way to the one o'clock hour. And I don't know
if you heard that little uh commercial about rhino shield.
We're going to have rhino shield on at the bottom
of the hour. So if you've been considering it, or
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maybe you're thinking about painting your home and you've heard
about rhino shield, you want to know what the difference is.
We will cover all that, so that'll be at the
bottom of the hour, all right. In the meantime, it's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five and
Larry you lead us off.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hi, Gary, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Quite welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I have a geothermal furnace air conditioner unit. We're on
a servicing contract with a local HVAC company and they
came a couple of weeks ago to do the opening
for the ac season. And when the guy was finished up,
he said, everything looks okay, but you've got something growing
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in there. And I said, okay, don't sound good exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, what do I have, like giraffes or mold
or what.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And so he says, yeah, I really can't say you
know without testing it, but you need to you need
to take a look at that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So I really have two questions for you. Number one,
is it beyond my expectations that an HVAC servicing company
should clean that as.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Part of there? What that was gonna be my question
to you? Yeah, you know, I and I'm not real
positive on you know, servicing a geothermal but like an
electric h you know, in a compressor and regular AC
and the air handler, a lot of time you'll get
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mold on the coils because you know, the moisture stuff
like that. And I have been told that I had
had that and they cleaned it, and I don't know
where it was if it was you know, if it
was mold. Is it in the duck work. That's a
different story. But is there duck work and everything? And
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how does he know that's in there? So to answer
it to what you're asking me, if it's in the
main housing and there's some mold, yeah, I would I
would think that would be cleaned. I would certainly call
the company and say, hey, what is included in this?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, you know what you mentioned the the scope of
the work, and it is not easy to find just
your everyday HVAC company who knows the geothermal true.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
There, it's definitely a specialty lined it. There's people that
you know, focus on the geothermal and you know they
do other things, but they focus on the geothermal.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Right, So my next question really is is this something
that you think. I mean, I can open it up
and take a peek, but is it something that you
think I ought to try to go after myself. You know,
I've just got fears of mold mitigation and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, yeah, I wouldn't be what I would do in
that situation. I would really call and talk to the
owner or a supervisor and say, hey, listen, I've been
doing this plan and the tech had told me I
had a mold issue in here.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
How extensive is it? Is it something I need to
take care of? And the answer would be, yeah, you
need to take care of it one way or the other, right,
And why isn't that covered in my plan? And let's
get an answer there first, and then then I think
I would make a determination that's something you want to
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take care of yourself, depending on where it is, you know,
like if it's on the coils of an air handler
for an electric air conditioner, you can shut it down.
There's products out there called coil clean that are designed
to remove mold off coils. I don't know how the
geo thermal's set up, and it's really not a big deal.
You know, you wear an respirator goggles, not a big deal.
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You know, if it's somewhere else and it's just blowing
spores through the house, I say, just there's spores in
the house anyway, you know, if you can get to
it and it's a small batch, Yeah, there's disinfectant and
mold killers. You know, there's the wet and forget disinfected
mold eliminator, there's chrobium. There's there's products out there that
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can do that. My rule of thumb is if it's
more inten square feet, get a pro. And this is
not more inten square feet. But we don't know where
to they, so we got to find out where it is.
I'm sure he would have documented that. I'm sure on
the service thing. Well, even if he didn't address it,
he would document it and then maybe you can learn
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a little bit from there. I just dig deeper beyond
see what's going on.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, okay, Yeah. The other thing I do have a
whole house.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Humidifier, which I don't intend to disconnect, and you know
that may be contributing to the more and the gross are.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But yeah, but okay, well yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Shut shut that down, right, it's shut down now the humidifier.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know we had the first warm weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, good for you. Yeah, dig a little deeper. I
think you'll get your answer. Okay, thanks, right, thank you, yep,
take care, bye bye. All right, then let's go to Renee, Renee. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I'm fine? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
So I use a labor to create art and I
am buying twelve inch by twelve inch pieces of three
millimeters basswood to do my art. And I was wondering
if you had a tip for me on how to
store it without warping.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well, I guess the way to store it without warping
is stored in an area that doesn't have high humidity.
Score it, oh, score.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It, storing No, storing it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Storing it, okay, all right, So, yeah, you would want
to store it in a area that would have low humidity.
And so I don't know where that is. I don't
know where. Do you know where the humidity level house
is renee.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I'm in Colorado, so usually we don't have a
real high yeah where I am, But I mean I
just keep it in my garage. I didn't know if
there was something that I could build that clamped it
down or something. But I know I've noticed, like after
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a week of opening a new package, it will warp,
and it'll worp enough to where it makes it difficult
because my laser has to have it flat.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know, I'm sure there's a good answer to this.
I can't really pinpoint exactly where that good answer is, though.
I would say if you don't want wood to warp,
you would want to keep it, you know, forty five
percent relative humidity or lower. Ok. But you can't get
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it too low because it could dry out too which
would cause wood to move. So I'd say the optimum
storage is probably forty to forty five percent and give
it time. You know, a lot of times we talk
about this is totally different, but like hardwood flooring, when
that is delivered, we don't know where it's been where
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they stored it in a warehouse, and we tell people
to spread it out throughout the house in a cold
ye in a forty to acclimate it, let it all
settle down. So I would think on your squares, renee
be the same type of thing. We don't know where
that woulds been. It's in a package, but right that
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package has been somewhere too. Let's get it out. Let's
spread it across a table. Let's let it sit there
for three days and acclimate and see if it's still
an issue.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Is there something that I can buy that shows me
what my humidity is?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yes? Yes, And in hardware stores they have a hygrometer.
They make them in digital. They make them in a dial.
You can literally it looks like a refrigerator thermometer if
you will, little square, okay, and they also am them
in digital. You could literally lay it on a table
and put that thing on the table. It'll tell you
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exactly where it is. And then, of course it's going
to depend on you know, and I agree in Colorado
you shouldn't have difficulty controlling the humidity inside your home.
You know, I'm sure there's some parts of the season
where it's more humid than others. But when you get
that happy spot, see where the umunity is in your home,
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you probably be able to start right in your home
on a table let, it acclimate and then again you
want to put it in and it you want to
keep that house's you know, finally tuned to that and
once it's settled down and is acclimated and it varies
between forty and fifty five, that's all acceptable. That would
be the acceptable range year round.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Gotcha, Thank you so much for answering my question.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Very good. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. All right,
let's take a little break. We got Bob and Bill
as we continue at home with Gary Salivent right here
in fifty five care see the talk station. All right?
Back ahead we go twelve twenty on your Saturday. It
looks like a great looking today. A little chilly, but
I can live with it. I can live with it.
The rain is stopped sixty right now, h sixty six
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right now? Oh well, chili, but that's all bad thought.
You think they were talking like the weekend. It could be,
you know, that's not that long way right, next weekends
only seven days away, Danny said Friday. It's like the
upper eighties. Now, is that not Cincinnati or what that is?
Cincinnati and Cincinnati. It's like furnaces on on Monday. Air
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conditioning is on Thursday, Yes, mark.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
It down full blast on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, never can figure it out. All right, let's get
back up on, Bob.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Welcome, Hey Gary. I asked two questions about ceilings, all right.
Is seventy years old. And when I looked at it,
at one point it had slight ripples in it. I
mean ten ripples or like a at least per square foot,
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and they're not that noticeable. But I used dryewall screws
to screw it and then patched, primed it and painted it.
And then when we had our roof repaired a year later,
I thought, oh, here's the area that's still that came
apart that I didn't notice. And I thought, can I
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take it off? And I see the ripples from the
old part, from the old ceiling. I don't know what
to do? Should I?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well? Let mean, what kind of material do we have
on this ceiling? Is it plas? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Plaster? Probably? It was fifty maybe tryball, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We gotta know what it is. We gotta know what
it is. So if you run in your hand over
that ceiling, Bob, can you feel the can you feel it?
Can you feel the waves on it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh, I can see it, you can I can.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You can see it, you can feel it. It's there.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Nobody notice it though.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, well, so what do you want to do here?
So when you say you use the drywall nail or
the plaster nails or.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Screw hold up hoping that would hold up to the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, So what you're calling the plaster screws, that's the
ones that it's got a little washer about the size
of a nickel, and it's flexible and it's got a
screw that goes through it or not. Just all right, Well,
that's why I said, we got to decide what what
material that is, because if that house is of that age,
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they wouldn't have had My guess is it would not
be drywall ceiling. It would be a plaster ceiling. But
somebody could have hung drywall on top of that plaster.
What happens with plaster is there's lath behind a plaster.
Lath can be wires with holes in it. It can
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be wood slats that they look like paint stars, like
every inch with little gaps. And when they plaster, they
push this mortar or plaster or cementatious mixture up. They
squeeze it through those holes in the metal and the lath,
and it goes on to the other side and it hardens,
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and those are called keys. Okay, so the plaster keys
are holding that liquid which is now hardened and it
has become your ceiling. When it gets old, things break
and those plaster keys crack off. They they get old,
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and that plaster weeps down a little bit. And there's
if it's wood, laugh, there's these uh.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Go ahead, what would you suggest if it's for a remedy.
If it's drywall, well, can I put drywalls over it?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Not that I want to, you can you could? Uh? Well,
there there's also there's a there's a website Ceiling tiles
dot com Decorative Ceiling. I knew I had it wrong.
(14:51):
You could tell in my voice. Decorative Ceiling Tiles dot
com they have it. You got to go to this website, Bob,
because it's a total answer to your problem.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
They make it in Ceiling towels are as thin as
a piece of paper if you want, but they're decorative.
They can look like pewter, they can look like copper,
they can look like drywall, they can look like all
kinds of things. There's no tracks involved. A little day
have a glue on the corners in a bread and
you just cover that ceiling. There's also some that are
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like an inch and a half thick in their styrofoam.
You could paint them. It looks like an ornate decorative ceiling.
So it's decorative cilingtowels dot com. That did cover up
the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Okay. Now my brother's seal, it was my folks house
and it was oil on the ceiling nineteen eighty. I
painted latex on it and it was fine. I put
oil on it, flat oil, let's say twenty years ago,
then with some little cracks and I patched it and
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did it, and ten years ago it just started coming apart.
Now my brother owns a house, it comes apart. So
I don't know what to do with that. So the
paints peeling, the paint peeling, Yeah, it looks funny.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, well you could do You can
do it again for those kind of projects. There's a
thousand things you can do. One of them, of course,
cover them up. And we talked about what with the
decorative ceiling tiles. You can also use a you can
sand that paint paint off. You can scrape that paint off.
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You could reprime it and repaint it, you know. I mean,
that's that's certainly an option. There's there's even a product
called wall liner, which is a fabric that can go
on like a wallpaper and cover the whole thing up.
But on something like that, most people would scrape it,
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patch it to make sure it's smooth, and then prim
and paint.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, it would have to the whole steam would have
to come up. It's probably like twenty by fifteen or so,
and that's three hundred square feet and I get about
maybe fifty square feet of holes up. It's funny, but okay.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So there there are there, there are some go to
a website called Dumont do you m M O N D.
It's I'm sorry, it's one end right one M do
you m O n D? Dumont Global dot com. And yeah,
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they have indoor paint strippers smart Strip, smart Strip Advanced
Smart Strip Pro. What I would do is they have
a little test kit to determine which stripper is going
to remove that paint the easiest. Because it's a decent
sized broad project there and it's got all their strippers
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in one, you can test it to see which one
removes that paint, and you can chemically remove it where
there's no scraping, which might be good too, because there
could be lead in that paint. So, you know, I
believe it's like do it best Sherwin Williams. They have
those tests, plus they they have the test hits, plus
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they have the different strippers. But get to test hit,
decide which one's gonna work best for you, and just
remove the paint. That's that's gonna be probably prime. And
then again, so many of your paints today are so
much better to use the self priming latex paints. You know,
they'll bond to an oil base if there's you know,
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if need be. But unlike when you were doing that
particular project, otherwise you know there's self priming. Put a
couple of coats on there and you should be done.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, appreciated it, Gary, Thank you, Ray.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. Yeah, that used to be
a big problem, and quite a quite a quite a
big problem too. Somebody had you know, we back in
the day, we had oil based on everything. We hit
it on walls, we hit it on baseboards and doors,
and everything else. And then somebody uses latext paint and
they may scratch it up a little bit, but they
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putting latext pain on oil. I mean it'd peel a
way like old skin. It was not good. With today's
self priming paints not a problem. But once that problem
is there, you got to strip that off and go
from there. So good luck on that, all right. Like
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I said, if this is the year that you're looking
at maybe changing the color of your home, maybe just
doing little maintenance in your pair and having it painted.
You've probably heard me talk about a called Rhino Shield.
That's what I have on the exterior in my home.
Wonderful product. And we have Todd Harville. We hit him
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on I don't know about three or four weeks ago.
He's gonna talk to us about Hino Shield. You might
be very interested in doing it. And it comes with
a twenty five year warranty. Eh, all right? Quick breaking
then back to Todd or to Todd. You're at home
with Gary Salvin right here in fifty five krc DE
talk station twelve thirty three. At home with Gary Salvin.
Not a bad day to get some project done on
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the outside of your home, even if it is when
we got thousands of calls about that cleaning the deck, Well,
right now we're gonna shift gears a little bit. Todd Harville,
he is with Rhino Shield, and we're going to talk
about what rhino shield is, how it can be used
on your home, and what's the benefits and how's it
different than just having the house painted. Todd, Welcome again
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that home with Gary Salvin. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Great?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Gary, Thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So tell me one thing before we get into the
product and how it's done and everything else. How's the
is the weather affecting everything? Everybody talk to It seems
like everything's been pushback, pushback, pushback. Are people getting involved
in their spring project shed or still kind of on
the fence.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, we're knee deep in it as of now. But
we do have days where we got to stop production
because of the oncoming rain or it's you know, particularly
raining that day. We don't we don't code anything when
it's implement wetter coming in.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Sure. Well, I've been telling and not only folks about
your product and to book it now because everything does
get compressed at the end of the year. We want
to make sure everybody that can get their house coated
with some rhinor shield that they start getting the estimates
and booked now. And I understand the estimates are free,
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so that's all good. But we're going to talk about
that a lot during the spring this year because I
have a feeling we're gonna have a very heavy backload
of products and projects, so let go to make sure
everybody's aware of that. So tell me a little bit
about rhino shield. What is rhino.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Shield, Well, Gary, Reinel shield is an elastic americ coating
that we spray on homes and it's a two part
process with an adhesive primer in a top coat, and
our top coat is the primary makeup is the material
called an elastic meeric resin. Essentially, it's a rubberized coating
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that we're putting on homes that lasts like vinyl, but
it looks like paint and that's the beauty.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Of our product.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
It maintains their integrity of whatever we're coating.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So I love the term it adhesive primer and elast
america hoding. So you know, I know people paint their
houses to make it look nice and have good a
curb appeal, but the primary purpose of paint is to
protect the substrates of the house. So this is this
is nice and tight product, keeping the water off all
the wood.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Right absolutely and also to gary it allows the surface
to be able to breathe naturally. That's why folks vapor
barriers on their homes to allow that moisture to be
expelled from the house without keeping it you know, you know,
trapped inside your walls. And that's what Rhinod shield does,
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creates breathe ability for the home.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I was telling people before I've I don't know
how many years it's been anymore. It's been on my home,
the Rhino shild for probably at least six years, and
it it offers many benefits. First of all, it's gonna
last right.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Absolutely here. You know. Some of the benefits of how
having it on your home. The biggest thing is not
having to set with somebody, you know, every you know,
five to eight years of recoding your homes. Ours is
a one application and you're done, and of course we
guarantee it for that length of time as well.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So it also saves energy because I noticed this when
I had mind done, and it's got some ceramics in
that Alesto Maeric coating, does it not is in a
little bit of a radiant barrier to a degree.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yes, it's. The our value of our our coating is
six point eighty nine, so there's a reflective aspect to it.
So you're putting a vapor barrier on your home that
folks will see a significant decrease and energy bills, especially
in the summertime because our surfaces will never get above
ninety five degrees, which is extremely huge and U homes
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today keeping a ninety five greg walcool is just gonna
save you so much more energy.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah. Yeah, so this product is really phenomenal. I mean
I noticed when we put it there was an energy savings,
There's no question about it. I guess the big difference
that I get asked, and I'm sure you get asked
all the time, is it's not paint and it's a coating.
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I mean, there are two different things, dramatically different. I
mean they both have color and they both breathe. But
the runner shield is got many more assets to it,
and it's just it looks exactly like paint though, I
mean unless it's you know, I can't tell. I'll think
it is once it's on a nice flat surface, but
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it can can it go over all types of what
can't go over brick?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yep, Brick is very important to be able to, you know,
coach a brick because of the breathe ability of our coating.
Brick has to be able to breathe naturally on its own.
If you some paints doesn't allow the brick, the brick
to be able to breathe the way it should and
which over time could cause mortar problems and things of
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that nature to your brick. Sure you know with Reinald shield,
with the two coat process, that primer, I mean it's
engineered to burn into the pores of what we're coating,
and in bricks, it's just a beautiful subscript for our
primer to be able to adhere.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
To Are you seeing that as a trend at all
painting brick? Because I am in my neighborhood, I can
speak specifically about my neighborhood. I bet there's been five
houses relatively close to me that if painted their brick.
There's a lot of brick homes. Are you picking up
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some of that business? Are you seeing that as a
trend at all?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Absolutely? Probably In about the last five years, Garrett, Yeah,
we've seen an uptick in painted brick more so than
we had in the past. You know, prior to that,
you know, I would go to houses that already had
paint on their house already and they wanted a fresh coat.
But these days I'm seeing a lot more appointments with
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raw brick, and it's just, you know, it's a good thing.
They got ahold of us prior to doing anything else,
and they're just gonna have a you know, beautiful home
for years to come.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, Todd. When you think about it, the advantages from
energy savings, think about that a brick home facing the
southwest and then putting a Rhiner shield product on it
with a reflectivity I think you said six point eight.
That's got to help their energy bills fairly decently.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Absolutely. I mean, you can just imagine a brick wall
that's raw in the summertime ninety degrees out on dred
percent humidity. That's one hundred and forty hundred and fifty
degree wall. I agree, And it's keeping that, you know,
below one hundred degrees as it's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
We'll talk a little bit about the application, but tell
me about the product in terms of the VOCs. I
mean you folks at Rhino Shield when you give estimates.
This is not a product that people go by. This
is an installed product. How's environmentally, how's rhino Shield stack up?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Very? Very very good? We're we are a green product.
We're members of the Florida Green Builders Coalition, which because
our product is made in Florida also too with the VOCs.
It's s such a low volume. You know, we never
had to do anything to our coatings in twenty seventeen
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when they implemented the voc law, coatings or paints had
to be below a certain level of VOCs to be
able to apply it in the States. We never had
to do anything to our coating because we were already
in compliance with it prior because we are a green product.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, how long does it take for a typical home
that Rhino Shield is coating. Is it a week job,
is it a two day job? Or how long does
it usually take? I know there's different sized homes. I'm
just curious on the homes that you normally do, how
long does that take that project?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Sure, a lot of folks think that because we're doing
just the trim, it's going to be a slower process
or a quicker process than painting the whole house, but
has a tendency You have more prep work to do
just doing the trim, because you have more things to
tape off and cover. Normally we start on Monday, and
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there's really no reason why we shouldn't have that wrap
up by Friday Saturday of the same week. Of course,
that there's weather evolved, it might take a few days longer.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So you do homes that just have trim work, and
you do homes where it's a full brick house or
full sighting of wood sighting. Is there anything else? Is
there anything that the runner shield cannot be applied to
on the outside of a home? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
This The only thing it doesn't adhere to is glass.
So like aluminum siding homes, it works remarkably. Any service
that you can think of. We coat cedar homes, log homes,
you know, you know, brick and hardy board and things
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of that nature as well.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Let's take a little break, we come back and I
want to talk about the colors. And of course the
big thing people are always interest is how is it installed.
We talked about trim, We've talked about houses. We'll cover
all that Todd Harville. He is my guess he is
with Rhino Shield. And we will continue. You're at home
with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five A see
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the talk station. All right, back here we go. We
have our friend Todd in from Rhino Shield. We've been
talking all about what makes Rhino Shield different and a
big asset to your home. And Todd, before we get
into the installation and the colors, how do people get
a hold of you to have an estimate for a
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Rhino shield project?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
The best way is just just called our our phone number.
Lindsay will set up a time that's convenient for you
guys to have me come out and give you a price.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, what number is?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah? Eight a a rhino forty one.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Rhino forty one. That's easy to remember, very good, and
Lindsey old book you and you'll be out there and
get the estimate. All right. Let's talk about colors. I
go into look at paink colors every now and then
and there's there's thousands and that makes me crazy. But
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how many colors does Rhiner should have.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Too many at times?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
But we have fifteen hundred colors, okay?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
And I always tell people with the amount of colors.
Take your time picking out the color, because this is
what it's going to be. And we do our due
diligence to make sure that we're putting samples on homes,
to ensure that folks are getting what they really really want,
because it could be free gary. If they don't like
the color.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's yeah, well you're you're exactly right. And I was
going to say, and this is an honest to goodness truth,
the hardest part of the Rhiner Shield project, it's a
Sullivan household, was the colors. Because I hope my idea.
My brother and his wife were staying at the house
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for a couple of days, so they were up there
that day we had to pick out the colors. And
she's a decorator, and then my wife had her ideas.
Oh my goodness, but we love the colors. It turned out.
It turned out wonderful. And I don't know if I
would have picked a spruce color for the front door,
but we had a nice spruce bush right in front
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of it, and it looks outstanding. So fifteen hundred colors is.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Enough, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, So all right, let's talk about the installation.
Gonna it's gonna take We'll just round off things and
say it'll probably take a week. You can do a
house with just trim, you can do the whole house.
And by the way, your crew was great. And like
I said, it's been six years ago. I hope those
guys are still around because they were really, really wonderful.
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They are, Yeah, they were just they were a pleasure
to work with. So what happens I was, They're gonna spready,
aren't they. They're not going to use a paintbrush. You're
gonna spray.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
They're gonna spray. They're gonna come out and they're gonna
do four things. The number one thing that they're doing
they're gonna clean it. So we're gonna pressure washer home
and then we're gonna hand scrape down the surface ensure
that we're not missing any rot or damaged areas. And
usually after that we tape things off to protect for overspray.
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We're gonna shoot with an adhesive primer. Once that, you know,
sets up to be able to receive our top coat,
it's usually a few hours and then we start coating
it with our top coat. So it's a two part
process of our of our system.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
And I was, you know what, you're right when you're
just doing the trim that that took. That takes time.
That does take more time than doing the whole house.
Because on the one side of the house, I mean
I had metal garage doors. They did those. I got
a screen port and I said, you want we can
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do the inside and the outside of this too. And
I went, really, okay, I wouldn't see that coming, but yeah,
do those did those? And there was just it was
a fluid system. In fact, they did such a great job.
You'll be happy to hear it is. Again. I want
to implore that this was six years ago. But our
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neighbor came over. I wasn't even home at that point.
A neighbor came over and uh, I think you started
his project the next day. Uh. And he had his
house done and he was a very finicky homeowner and
he loved it. He couldn't say enough about it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
So your neighbor crede quarter from me there. He's a
very picky man. Yeah, and we satisfied him beautifully.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah. I always say, if you can take care of him,
you got you got something already. He's moved. It's sad
I liked him because a lot of the things i'd
do in my house the next week he'd be doing
to his house. We had a little competition going. It
was kind of fun. Yeah, it was kind of fun.
So all right, so I don't know what else to
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try to. Oh, I know everybody always wants to know
what price. It's obviously more expensive than paint, but it's longevity. However,
you want to address that, that'd be fine.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Yes, normally we're about two times the price of a
conventional painter. Okay, I know it's a little bit more
money up front, but the results and the years of success,
it's it's worth it. It pays for itself very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well in twenty five years. I don't know exactly what
the exact date is, but I would I would have
to think that people are going to paint their house
three times. You think that's about absolutely.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yea, yeah, yep, yep. Nowadays, you know, most paints are
lasting around five seven years, and that's usually the rotation
of folks of repinning their homes. So you can, you know,
four times?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, yeah, So all right, we got the phone number.
It's a day to eight Rhino forty one and if
you want to check out a website and take a
look at that, it's a Rhinoshield kyd dot com. And
thank you very much for join us in do book now.
I don't think we can encourage people to do that.
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You don't sound too worried about it, but I am.
I think as we continue to have service companies and
manpower issues and things like that, and then you have
a rainy spring, I just I don't want people to
wait till you know the end of August and say,
oh gosh, falls coming, I should probably paint our house
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this year. Call them now you agree with that. I
mean you may only have a week or two out.
I don't know which your backtime is right now, but
it'll get busy fast, and you know, take advantage of
that early booking and discounted. What are the estimates, they're free, right.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Yeah, estimates are no charge. I'll be the person that'll
be coming out giving them the prize. And it's it's painless.
It's a very quick process and I get to the
point pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
All right, very good. Thanks for joining us, Todd. I
appreciate it. I'll keep preaching.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
To preach, all right, Gary, thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Thank you, you're quite welcome. Thanks Tod. I'll preach the message.
That's what I was trying to say. What do you
think about that, Danny boy? Pretty cool?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Well, yeah, it looks very good on your house.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right in there. It's I
was surprised actually when he said four to five days,
because it's I again, six years ago. I really can't remember,
but it seemed like it was like three days. They
did just a great, excellent and it was it was
a team. So and listen, folks, I know you've heard
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me talk about this too. Is wood rot around facias
and soffets and how that kind of leaves a doorway
to animals getting into the attic. I'm not trying to
marry these together, but it's the truth. If you get
a good breathable finish on your house, a water tight,
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a coating per se, you minimize and actually eliminate a
wood rot, and it pays dividends where you know, the
edges where the miter cuts are aren't starting to pull apart,
and you know, because it's stable. It's it's we had
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that conversation already today about wood flooring. What happens when
moisture gets into wood, and of course pain it's just
not about the beauty, and it looks just like paint,
looks just like paint. I've mentioned a couple of times
if you're painting a front door, there might be slight,
there's a slight more texture than maybe the old oil enamel,
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but no more texture than an exterior paint, which a
lot of people use on entry doors too. That's the
only thing that I would say would be a little
different from the street. You know, it's got color, it's
got the curb appeel that you'd want in your house
of you just painted. But all the benefits and the
benefits are I think, you know, relatively extreme, especially with
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the energy savings from the ceramic coating, the elasti americ coat. Yeah,
it's breathable, good stuff, good stuff, all right, So if
you are thinking about painting, you might want to jump
on that right away. Now. I do want to add
on to that too, and I've talked about it. If
you replace in concrete this year, replacing maybe having a
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chimney restored, maybe with a little brick. Maybe you're putting
vinyl sightings on your house instead of painting it. Get
those estimates now, I really I'm anticipating. I talked with
my friend Ron Wilson, how they're handling things in landscaping
if that has been a chore. Now it's early in
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the game. Don't get me wrong. But we are human,
which means we procrastinate a lot. And he said the
same thing. He goes, what's really interesting in his business?
As you get all excited, and that star fades fast
like when it's ninety degrees, and same in a home
ownership if you're doing a project, everybody gets excited now,
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but ah, we don't need to do that till summer,
and then you get into the dog days of summers. Ah,
maybe in the fall to date too. Date, get on
that now, all right, Danny Boy music's playing. Thank you
for all your help today. Certainly appreciate it kept me
on the straight and narrow, and good Lord Willing. We'll
be back tomorrow morning at nine for more at Home
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with Garry Sullivan.
Well, the best time of the day. Good afternoon, Welcome
now number four at home with Gary Salvan, working our
way to the one o'clock hour. And I don't know
if you heard that little uh commercial about rhino shield.
We're going to have rhino shield on at the bottom
of the hour. So if you've been considering it, or
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maybe you're thinking about painting your home and you've heard
about rhino shield, you want to know what the difference is.
We will cover all that, so that'll be at the
bottom of the hour, all right. In the meantime, it's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five and
Larry you lead us off.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hi, Gary, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Quite welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I have a geothermal furnace air conditioner unit. We're on
a servicing contract with a local HVAC company and they
came a couple of weeks ago to do the opening
for the ac season. And when the guy was finished up,
he said, everything looks okay, but you've got something growing
(01:04):
in there. And I said, okay, don't sound good exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, what do I have, like giraffes or mold
or what.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And so he says, yeah, I really can't say you
know without testing it, but you need to you need
to take a look at that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So I really have two questions for you. Number one,
is it beyond my expectations that an HVAC servicing company
should clean that as.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Part of there? What that was gonna be my question
to you? Yeah, you know, I and I'm not real
positive on you know, servicing a geothermal but like an
electric h you know, in a compressor and regular AC
and the air handler, a lot of time you'll get
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mold on the coils because you know, the moisture stuff
like that. And I have been told that I had
had that and they cleaned it, and I don't know
where it was if it was you know, if it
was mold. Is it in the duck work. That's a
different story. But is there duck work and everything? And
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how does he know that's in there? So to answer
it to what you're asking me, if it's in the
main housing and there's some mold, yeah, I would I
would think that would be cleaned. I would certainly call
the company and say, hey, what is included in this?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, you know what you mentioned the the scope of
the work, and it is not easy to find just
your everyday HVAC company who knows the geothermal true.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
There, it's definitely a specialty lined it. There's people that
you know, focus on the geothermal and you know they
do other things, but they focus on the geothermal.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Right, So my next question really is is this something
that you think. I mean, I can open it up
and take a peek, but is it something that you
think I ought to try to go after myself. You know,
I've just got fears of mold mitigation and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, yeah, I wouldn't be what I would do in
that situation. I would really call and talk to the
owner or a supervisor and say, hey, listen, I've been
doing this plan and the tech had told me I
had a mold issue in here.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
How extensive is it? Is it something I need to
take care of? And the answer would be, yeah, you
need to take care of it one way or the other, right,
And why isn't that covered in my plan? And let's
get an answer there first, and then then I think
I would make a determination that's something you want to
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take care of yourself, depending on where it is, you know,
like if it's on the coils of an air handler
for an electric air conditioner, you can shut it down.
There's products out there called coil clean that are designed
to remove mold off coils. I don't know how the
geo thermal's set up, and it's really not a big deal.
You know, you wear an respirator goggles, not a big deal.
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You know, if it's somewhere else and it's just blowing
spores through the house, I say, just there's spores in
the house anyway, you know, if you can get to
it and it's a small batch, Yeah, there's disinfectant and
mold killers. You know, there's the wet and forget disinfected
mold eliminator, there's chrobium. There's there's products out there that
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can do that. My rule of thumb is if it's
more inten square feet, get a pro. And this is
not more inten square feet. But we don't know where
to they, so we got to find out where it is.
I'm sure he would have documented that. I'm sure on
the service thing. Well, even if he didn't address it,
he would document it and then maybe you can learn
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a little bit from there. I just dig deeper beyond
see what's going on.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, okay, Yeah. The other thing I do have a
whole house.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Humidifier, which I don't intend to disconnect, and you know
that may be contributing to the more and the gross are.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But yeah, but okay, well yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Shut shut that down, right, it's shut down now the humidifier.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know we had the first warm weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, good for you. Yeah, dig a little deeper. I
think you'll get your answer. Okay, thanks, right, thank you, yep,
take care, bye bye. All right, then let's go to Renee, Renee. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I'm fine? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
So I use a labor to create art and I
am buying twelve inch by twelve inch pieces of three
millimeters basswood to do my art. And I was wondering
if you had a tip for me on how to
store it without warping.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well, I guess the way to store it without warping
is stored in an area that doesn't have high humidity.
Score it, oh, score.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It, storing No, storing it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Storing it, okay, all right, So, yeah, you would want
to store it in a area that would have low humidity.
And so I don't know where that is. I don't
know where. Do you know where the humidity level house
is renee.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I'm in Colorado, so usually we don't have a
real high yeah where I am, But I mean I
just keep it in my garage. I didn't know if
there was something that I could build that clamped it
down or something. But I know I've noticed, like after
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a week of opening a new package, it will warp,
and it'll worp enough to where it makes it difficult
because my laser has to have it flat.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You know, I'm sure there's a good answer to this.
I can't really pinpoint exactly where that good answer is, though.
I would say if you don't want wood to warp,
you would want to keep it, you know, forty five
percent relative humidity or lower. Ok. But you can't get
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it too low because it could dry out too which
would cause wood to move. So I'd say the optimum
storage is probably forty to forty five percent and give
it time. You know, a lot of times we talk
about this is totally different, but like hardwood flooring, when
that is delivered, we don't know where it's been where
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they stored it in a warehouse, and we tell people
to spread it out throughout the house in a cold
ye in a forty to acclimate it, let it all
settle down. So I would think on your squares, renee
be the same type of thing. We don't know where
that woulds been. It's in a package, but right that
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package has been somewhere too. Let's get it out. Let's
spread it across a table. Let's let it sit there
for three days and acclimate and see if it's still
an issue.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Is there something that I can buy that shows me
what my humidity is?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yes? Yes, And in hardware stores they have a hygrometer.
They make them in digital. They make them in a dial.
You can literally it looks like a refrigerator thermometer if
you will, little square, okay, and they also am them
in digital. You could literally lay it on a table
and put that thing on the table. It'll tell you
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exactly where it is. And then, of course it's going
to depend on you know, and I agree in Colorado
you shouldn't have difficulty controlling the humidity inside your home.
You know, I'm sure there's some parts of the season
where it's more humid than others. But when you get
that happy spot, see where the umunity is in your home,
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you probably be able to start right in your home
on a table let, it acclimate and then again you
want to put it in and it you want to
keep that house's you know, finally tuned to that and
once it's settled down and is acclimated and it varies
between forty and fifty five, that's all acceptable. That would
be the acceptable range year round.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Gotcha, Thank you so much for answering my question.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Very good. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. All right,
let's take a little break. We got Bob and Bill
as we continue at home with Gary Salivent right here
in fifty five care see the talk station. All right?
Back ahead we go twelve twenty on your Saturday. It
looks like a great looking today. A little chilly, but
I can live with it. I can live with it.
The rain is stopped sixty right now, h sixty six
(10:23):
right now? Oh well, chili, but that's all bad thought.
You think they were talking like the weekend. It could be,
you know, that's not that long way right, next weekends
only seven days away, Danny said Friday. It's like the
upper eighties. Now, is that not Cincinnati or what that is?
Cincinnati and Cincinnati. It's like furnaces on on Monday. Air
(10:47):
conditioning is on Thursday, Yes, mark.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
It down full blast on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, never can figure it out. All right, let's get
back up on, Bob.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Welcome, Hey Gary. I asked two questions about ceilings, all right.
Is seventy years old. And when I looked at it,
at one point it had slight ripples in it. I
mean ten ripples or like a at least per square foot,
(11:20):
and they're not that noticeable. But I used dryewall screws
to screw it and then patched, primed it and painted it.
And then when we had our roof repaired a year later,
I thought, oh, here's the area that's still that came
apart that I didn't notice. And I thought, can I
(11:43):
take it off? And I see the ripples from the
old part, from the old ceiling. I don't know what
to do? Should I?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well? Let mean, what kind of material do we have
on this ceiling? Is it plas? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Plaster? Probably? It was fifty maybe tryball, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We gotta know what it is. We gotta know what
it is. So if you run in your hand over
that ceiling, Bob, can you feel the can you feel it?
Can you feel the waves on it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh, I can see it, you can I can.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You can see it, you can feel it. It's there.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Nobody notice it though.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, well, so what do you want to do here?
So when you say you use the drywall nail or
the plaster nails or.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Screw hold up hoping that would hold up to the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, So what you're calling the plaster screws, that's the
ones that it's got a little washer about the size
of a nickel, and it's flexible and it's got a
screw that goes through it or not. Just all right, Well,
that's why I said, we got to decide what what
material that is, because if that house is of that age,
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they wouldn't have had My guess is it would not
be drywall ceiling. It would be a plaster ceiling. But
somebody could have hung drywall on top of that plaster.
What happens with plaster is there's lath behind a plaster.
Lath can be wires with holes in it. It can
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be wood slats that they look like paint stars, like
every inch with little gaps. And when they plaster, they
push this mortar or plaster or cementatious mixture up. They
squeeze it through those holes in the metal and the lath,
and it goes on to the other side and it hardens,
(13:47):
and those are called keys. Okay, so the plaster keys
are holding that liquid which is now hardened and it
has become your ceiling. When it gets old, things break
and those plaster keys crack off. They they get old,
(14:09):
and that plaster weeps down a little bit. And there's
if it's wood, laugh, there's these uh.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Go ahead, what would you suggest if it's for a remedy.
If it's drywall, well, can I put drywalls over it?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Not that I want to, you can you could? Uh? Well,
there there's also there's a there's a website Ceiling tiles
dot com Decorative Ceiling. I knew I had it wrong.
(14:51):
You could tell in my voice. Decorative Ceiling Tiles dot
com they have it. You got to go to this website, Bob,
because it's a total answer to your problem.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
They make it in Ceiling towels are as thin as
a piece of paper if you want, but they're decorative.
They can look like pewter, they can look like copper,
they can look like drywall, they can look like all
kinds of things. There's no tracks involved. A little day
have a glue on the corners in a bread and
you just cover that ceiling. There's also some that are
(15:25):
like an inch and a half thick in their styrofoam.
You could paint them. It looks like an ornate decorative ceiling.
So it's decorative cilingtowels dot com. That did cover up
the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Okay. Now my brother's seal, it was my folks house
and it was oil on the ceiling nineteen eighty. I
painted latex on it and it was fine. I put
oil on it, flat oil, let's say twenty years ago,
then with some little cracks and I patched it and
(16:00):
did it, and ten years ago it just started coming apart.
Now my brother owns a house, it comes apart. So
I don't know what to do with that. So the
paints peeling, the paint peeling, Yeah, it looks funny.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, well you could do You can
do it again for those kind of projects. There's a
thousand things you can do. One of them, of course,
cover them up. And we talked about what with the
decorative ceiling tiles. You can also use a you can
sand that paint paint off. You can scrape that paint off.
(16:44):
You could reprime it and repaint it, you know. I mean,
that's that's certainly an option. There's there's even a product
called wall liner, which is a fabric that can go
on like a wallpaper and cover the whole thing up.
But on something like that, most people would scrape it,
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patch it to make sure it's smooth, and then prim
and paint.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, it would have to the whole steam would have
to come up. It's probably like twenty by fifteen or so,
and that's three hundred square feet and I get about
maybe fifty square feet of holes up. It's funny, but okay.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So there there are there, there are some go to
a website called Dumont do you m M O N D.
It's I'm sorry, it's one end right one M do
you m O n D? Dumont Global dot com. And yeah,
(17:46):
they have indoor paint strippers smart Strip, smart Strip Advanced
Smart Strip Pro. What I would do is they have
a little test kit to determine which stripper is going
to remove that paint the easiest. Because it's a decent
sized broad project there and it's got all their strippers
(18:10):
in one, you can test it to see which one
removes that paint, and you can chemically remove it where
there's no scraping, which might be good too, because there
could be lead in that paint. So, you know, I
believe it's like do it best Sherwin Williams. They have
those tests, plus they they have the test hits, plus
(18:31):
they have the different strippers. But get to test hit,
decide which one's gonna work best for you, and just
remove the paint. That's that's gonna be probably prime. And
then again, so many of your paints today are so
much better to use the self priming latex paints. You know,
they'll bond to an oil base if there's you know,
(18:53):
if need be. But unlike when you were doing that
particular project, otherwise you know there's self priming. Put a
couple of coats on there and you should be done.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, appreciated it, Gary, Thank you, Ray.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You're quite welcome. Thank you. Yeah, that used to be
a big problem, and quite a quite a quite a
big problem too. Somebody had you know, we back in
the day, we had oil based on everything. We hit
it on walls, we hit it on baseboards and doors,
and everything else. And then somebody uses latext paint and
they may scratch it up a little bit, but they
(19:28):
putting latext pain on oil. I mean it'd peel a
way like old skin. It was not good. With today's
self priming paints not a problem. But once that problem
is there, you got to strip that off and go
from there. So good luck on that, all right. Like
(19:48):
I said, if this is the year that you're looking
at maybe changing the color of your home, maybe just
doing little maintenance in your pair and having it painted.
You've probably heard me talk about a called Rhino Shield.
That's what I have on the exterior in my home.
Wonderful product. And we have Todd Harville. We hit him
(20:10):
on I don't know about three or four weeks ago.
He's gonna talk to us about Hino Shield. You might
be very interested in doing it. And it comes with
a twenty five year warranty. Eh, all right? Quick breaking
then back to Todd or to Todd. You're at home
with Gary Salvin right here in fifty five krc DE
talk station twelve thirty three. At home with Gary Salvin.
Not a bad day to get some project done on
(20:32):
the outside of your home, even if it is when
we got thousands of calls about that cleaning the deck, Well,
right now we're gonna shift gears a little bit. Todd Harville,
he is with Rhino Shield, and we're going to talk
about what rhino shield is, how it can be used
on your home, and what's the benefits and how's it
different than just having the house painted. Todd, Welcome again
(20:55):
that home with Gary Salvin. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Great?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Gary, Thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So tell me one thing before we get into the
product and how it's done and everything else. How's the
is the weather affecting everything? Everybody talk to It seems
like everything's been pushback, pushback, pushback. Are people getting involved
in their spring project shed or still kind of on
the fence.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, we're knee deep in it as of now. But
we do have days where we got to stop production
because of the oncoming rain or it's you know, particularly
raining that day. We don't we don't code anything when
it's implement wetter coming in.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Sure. Well, I've been telling and not only folks about
your product and to book it now because everything does
get compressed at the end of the year. We want
to make sure everybody that can get their house coated
with some rhinor shield that they start getting the estimates
and booked now. And I understand the estimates are free,
(22:02):
so that's all good. But we're going to talk about
that a lot during the spring this year because I
have a feeling we're gonna have a very heavy backload
of products and projects, so let go to make sure
everybody's aware of that. So tell me a little bit
about rhino shield. What is rhino.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Shield, Well, Gary, Reinel shield is an elastic americ coating
that we spray on homes and it's a two part
process with an adhesive primer in a top coat, and
our top coat is the primary makeup is the material
called an elastic meeric resin. Essentially, it's a rubberized coating
(22:43):
that we're putting on homes that lasts like vinyl, but
it looks like paint and that's the beauty.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Of our product.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
It maintains their integrity of whatever we're coating.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So I love the term it adhesive primer and elast
america hoding. So you know, I know people paint their
houses to make it look nice and have good a
curb appeal, but the primary purpose of paint is to
protect the substrates of the house. So this is this
is nice and tight product, keeping the water off all
the wood.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Right absolutely and also to gary it allows the surface
to be able to breathe naturally. That's why folks vapor
barriers on their homes to allow that moisture to be
expelled from the house without keeping it you know, you know,
trapped inside your walls. And that's what Rhinod shield does,
(23:36):
creates breathe ability for the home.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I was telling people before I've I don't know
how many years it's been anymore. It's been on my home,
the Rhino shild for probably at least six years, and
it it offers many benefits. First of all, it's gonna
last right.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Absolutely here. You know. Some of the benefits of how
having it on your home. The biggest thing is not
having to set with somebody, you know, every you know,
five to eight years of recoding your homes. Ours is
a one application and you're done, and of course we
guarantee it for that length of time as well.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So it also saves energy because I noticed this when
I had mind done, and it's got some ceramics in
that Alesto Maeric coating, does it not is in a
little bit of a radiant barrier to a degree.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yes, it's. The our value of our our coating is
six point eighty nine, so there's a reflective aspect to it.
So you're putting a vapor barrier on your home that
folks will see a significant decrease and energy bills, especially
in the summertime because our surfaces will never get above
ninety five degrees, which is extremely huge and U homes
(25:00):
today keeping a ninety five greg walcool is just gonna
save you so much more energy.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah. Yeah, so this product is really phenomenal. I mean
I noticed when we put it there was an energy savings,
There's no question about it. I guess the big difference
that I get asked, and I'm sure you get asked
all the time, is it's not paint and it's a coating.
(25:30):
I mean, there are two different things, dramatically different. I
mean they both have color and they both breathe. But
the runner shield is got many more assets to it,
and it's just it looks exactly like paint though, I
mean unless it's you know, I can't tell. I'll think
it is once it's on a nice flat surface, but
(25:52):
it can can it go over all types of what
can't go over brick?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yep, Brick is very important to be able to, you know,
coach a brick because of the breathe ability of our coating.
Brick has to be able to breathe naturally on its own.
If you some paints doesn't allow the brick, the brick
to be able to breathe the way it should and
which over time could cause mortar problems and things of
(26:19):
that nature to your brick. Sure you know with Reinald shield,
with the two coat process, that primer, I mean it's
engineered to burn into the pores of what we're coating,
and in bricks, it's just a beautiful subscript for our
primer to be able to adhere.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
To Are you seeing that as a trend at all
painting brick? Because I am in my neighborhood, I can
speak specifically about my neighborhood. I bet there's been five
houses relatively close to me that if painted their brick.
There's a lot of brick homes. Are you picking up
(26:56):
some of that business? Are you seeing that as a
trend at all?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Absolutely? Probably In about the last five years, Garrett, Yeah,
we've seen an uptick in painted brick more so than
we had in the past. You know, prior to that,
you know, I would go to houses that already had
paint on their house already and they wanted a fresh coat.
But these days I'm seeing a lot more appointments with
(27:20):
raw brick, and it's just, you know, it's a good thing.
They got ahold of us prior to doing anything else,
and they're just gonna have a you know, beautiful home
for years to come.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, Todd. When you think about it, the advantages from
energy savings, think about that a brick home facing the
southwest and then putting a Rhiner shield product on it
with a reflectivity I think you said six point eight.
That's got to help their energy bills fairly decently.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Absolutely. I mean, you can just imagine a brick wall
that's raw in the summertime ninety degrees out on dred
percent humidity. That's one hundred and forty hundred and fifty
degree wall. I agree, And it's keeping that, you know,
below one hundred degrees as it's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
We'll talk a little bit about the application, but tell
me about the product in terms of the VOCs. I
mean you folks at Rhino Shield when you give estimates.
This is not a product that people go by. This
is an installed product. How's environmentally, how's rhino Shield stack up?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Very? Very very good? We're we are a green product.
We're members of the Florida Green Builders Coalition, which because
our product is made in Florida also too with the VOCs.
It's s such a low volume. You know, we never
had to do anything to our coatings in twenty seventeen
(28:59):
when they implemented the voc law, coatings or paints had
to be below a certain level of VOCs to be
able to apply it in the States. We never had
to do anything to our coating because we were already
in compliance with it prior because we are a green product.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, how long does it take for a typical home
that Rhino Shield is coating. Is it a week job,
is it a two day job? Or how long does
it usually take? I know there's different sized homes. I'm
just curious on the homes that you normally do, how
long does that take that project?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Sure, a lot of folks think that because we're doing
just the trim, it's going to be a slower process
or a quicker process than painting the whole house, but
has a tendency You have more prep work to do
just doing the trim, because you have more things to
tape off and cover. Normally we start on Monday, and
(29:57):
there's really no reason why we shouldn't have that wrap
up by Friday Saturday of the same week. Of course,
that there's weather evolved, it might take a few days longer.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So you do homes that just have trim work, and
you do homes where it's a full brick house or
full sighting of wood sighting. Is there anything else? Is
there anything that the runner shield cannot be applied to
on the outside of a home? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
This The only thing it doesn't adhere to is glass.
So like aluminum siding homes, it works remarkably. Any service
that you can think of. We coat cedar homes, log homes,
you know, you know, brick and hardy board and things
(30:46):
of that nature as well.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Let's take a little break, we come back and I
want to talk about the colors. And of course the
big thing people are always interest is how is it installed.
We talked about trim, We've talked about houses. We'll cover
all that Todd Harville. He is my guess he is
with Rhino Shield. And we will continue. You're at home
with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five A see
(31:10):
the talk station. All right, back here we go. We
have our friend Todd in from Rhino Shield. We've been
talking all about what makes Rhino Shield different and a
big asset to your home. And Todd, before we get
into the installation and the colors, how do people get
a hold of you to have an estimate for a
(31:31):
Rhino shield project?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
The best way is just just called our our phone number.
Lindsay will set up a time that's convenient for you
guys to have me come out and give you a price.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, what number is?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah? Eight a a rhino forty one.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Rhino forty one. That's easy to remember, very good, and
Lindsey old book you and you'll be out there and
get the estimate. All right. Let's talk about colors. I
go into look at paink colors every now and then
and there's there's thousands and that makes me crazy. But
(32:12):
how many colors does Rhiner should have.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Too many at times?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
But we have fifteen hundred colors, okay?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
And I always tell people with the amount of colors.
Take your time picking out the color, because this is
what it's going to be. And we do our due
diligence to make sure that we're putting samples on homes,
to ensure that folks are getting what they really really want,
because it could be free gary. If they don't like
the color.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's yeah, well you're you're exactly right. And I was
going to say, and this is an honest to goodness truth,
the hardest part of the Rhiner Shield project, it's a
Sullivan household, was the colors. Because I hope my idea.
My brother and his wife were staying at the house
(33:01):
for a couple of days, so they were up there
that day we had to pick out the colors. And
she's a decorator, and then my wife had her ideas.
Oh my goodness, but we love the colors. It turned out.
It turned out wonderful. And I don't know if I
would have picked a spruce color for the front door,
but we had a nice spruce bush right in front
(33:22):
of it, and it looks outstanding. So fifteen hundred colors is.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Enough, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, So all right, let's talk about the installation.
Gonna it's gonna take We'll just round off things and
say it'll probably take a week. You can do a
house with just trim, you can do the whole house.
And by the way, your crew was great. And like
I said, it's been six years ago. I hope those
guys are still around because they were really, really wonderful.
(33:52):
They are, Yeah, they were just they were a pleasure
to work with. So what happens I was, They're gonna spready,
aren't they. They're not going to use a paintbrush. You're
gonna spray.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
They're gonna spray. They're gonna come out and they're gonna
do four things. The number one thing that they're doing
they're gonna clean it. So we're gonna pressure washer home
and then we're gonna hand scrape down the surface ensure
that we're not missing any rot or damaged areas. And
usually after that we tape things off to protect for overspray.
(34:25):
We're gonna shoot with an adhesive primer. Once that, you know,
sets up to be able to receive our top coat,
it's usually a few hours and then we start coating
it with our top coat. So it's a two part
process of our of our system.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
And I was, you know what, you're right when you're
just doing the trim that that took. That takes time.
That does take more time than doing the whole house.
Because on the one side of the house, I mean
I had metal garage doors. They did those. I got
a screen port and I said, you want we can
(35:04):
do the inside and the outside of this too. And
I went, really, okay, I wouldn't see that coming, but yeah,
do those did those? And there was just it was
a fluid system. In fact, they did such a great job.
You'll be happy to hear it is. Again. I want
to implore that this was six years ago. But our
(35:25):
neighbor came over. I wasn't even home at that point.
A neighbor came over and uh, I think you started
his project the next day. Uh. And he had his
house done and he was a very finicky homeowner and
he loved it. He couldn't say enough about it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
So your neighbor crede quarter from me there. He's a
very picky man. Yeah, and we satisfied him beautifully.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah. I always say, if you can take care of him,
you got you got something already. He's moved. It's sad
I liked him because a lot of the things i'd
do in my house the next week he'd be doing
to his house. We had a little competition going. It
was kind of fun. Yeah, it was kind of fun.
So all right, so I don't know what else to
(36:15):
try to. Oh, I know everybody always wants to know
what price. It's obviously more expensive than paint, but it's longevity. However,
you want to address that, that'd be fine.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Yes, normally we're about two times the price of a
conventional painter. Okay, I know it's a little bit more
money up front, but the results and the years of success,
it's it's worth it. It pays for itself very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well in twenty five years. I don't know exactly what
the exact date is, but I would I would have
to think that people are going to paint their house
three times. You think that's about absolutely.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yea, yeah, yep, yep. Nowadays, you know, most paints are
lasting around five seven years, and that's usually the rotation
of folks of repinning their homes. So you can, you know,
four times?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, yeah, So all right, we got the phone number.
It's a day to eight Rhino forty one and if
you want to check out a website and take a
look at that, it's a Rhinoshield kyd dot com. And
thank you very much for join us in do book now.
I don't think we can encourage people to do that.
(37:30):
You don't sound too worried about it, but I am.
I think as we continue to have service companies and
manpower issues and things like that, and then you have
a rainy spring, I just I don't want people to
wait till you know the end of August and say,
oh gosh, falls coming, I should probably paint our house
(37:52):
this year. Call them now you agree with that. I
mean you may only have a week or two out.
I don't know which your backtime is right now, but
it'll get busy fast, and you know, take advantage of
that early booking and discounted. What are the estimates, they're free, right.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Yeah, estimates are no charge. I'll be the person that'll
be coming out giving them the prize. And it's it's painless.
It's a very quick process and I get to the
point pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
All right, very good. Thanks for joining us, Todd. I
appreciate it. I'll keep preaching.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
To preach, all right, Gary, thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Thank you, you're quite welcome. Thanks Tod. I'll preach the message.
That's what I was trying to say. What do you
think about that, Danny boy? Pretty cool?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Well, yeah, it looks very good on your house.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right in there. It's I
was surprised actually when he said four to five days,
because it's I again, six years ago. I really can't remember,
but it seemed like it was like three days. They
did just a great, excellent and it was it was
a team. So and listen, folks, I know you've heard
(39:06):
me talk about this too. Is wood rot around facias
and soffets and how that kind of leaves a doorway
to animals getting into the attic. I'm not trying to
marry these together, but it's the truth. If you get
a good breathable finish on your house, a water tight,
(39:27):
a coating per se, you minimize and actually eliminate a
wood rot, and it pays dividends where you know, the
edges where the miter cuts are aren't starting to pull apart,
and you know, because it's stable. It's it's we had
(39:50):
that conversation already today about wood flooring. What happens when
moisture gets into wood, and of course pain it's just
not about the beauty, and it looks just like paint,
looks just like paint. I've mentioned a couple of times
if you're painting a front door, there might be slight,
there's a slight more texture than maybe the old oil enamel,
(40:16):
but no more texture than an exterior paint, which a
lot of people use on entry doors too. That's the
only thing that I would say would be a little
different from the street. You know, it's got color, it's
got the curb appeel that you'd want in your house
of you just painted. But all the benefits and the
benefits are I think, you know, relatively extreme, especially with
(40:42):
the energy savings from the ceramic coating, the elasti americ coat. Yeah,
it's breathable, good stuff, good stuff, all right, So if
you are thinking about painting, you might want to jump
on that right away. Now. I do want to add
on to that too, and I've talked about it. If
you replace in concrete this year, replacing maybe having a
(41:03):
chimney restored, maybe with a little brick. Maybe you're putting
vinyl sightings on your house instead of painting it. Get
those estimates now, I really I'm anticipating. I talked with
my friend Ron Wilson, how they're handling things in landscaping
if that has been a chore. Now it's early in
(41:25):
the game. Don't get me wrong. But we are human,
which means we procrastinate a lot. And he said the
same thing. He goes, what's really interesting in his business?
As you get all excited, and that star fades fast
like when it's ninety degrees, and same in a home
ownership if you're doing a project, everybody gets excited now,
(41:48):
but ah, we don't need to do that till summer,
and then you get into the dog days of summers. Ah,
maybe in the fall to date too. Date, get on
that now, all right, Danny Boy music's playing. Thank you
for all your help today. Certainly appreciate it kept me
on the straight and narrow, and good Lord Willing. We'll
be back tomorrow morning at nine for more at Home
(42:10):
with Garry Sullivan.
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