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June 15, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, then weekends upon us welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
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We had a really wet week again. I know a

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lot of parts of the country have been really wet,
and it's really pushing back outdoor work, whether by a
service provider or by yourself. And you know you're trying
to get things done. I mean, it's hard enough where
I'm at just to get the grass cut in a
timely manner. As I was going through the neighborhood the

(01:52):
other day, a lot of people that didn't get their
grass cut in a timely manner.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
But that's just a small.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Project, right, I mean, it's not a project.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It is part of routine, daily or weekly maintenance. But
you get projects like staining your deck or painting your
house or replacing your roof.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, I tell you what.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Trying to slot some time in to get those projects done,
that's a little bigger deal. So when we get to
the nice little weather, we got to take advantage of it.
So I'm talking about the really chilly, rainy, lousy week,
and then I heard the next week.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well in six days, it's going to be near ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
That's the way it is, man, That's the way it is.
So then we'll be talking about, well, did you have
your air conditioner? Do you do a maintenance thing on
your air conditioner on a yearly basis or your heating
system on a yearly basis?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I used to kind of check them, and you know,
do a lot of this stuff myself. Not so much
with my lovely knees now, but I started doing, you know,
a service where they check the free ons and tight
no wires, and clean it properly and all that. And
it comes with some extra bells and whistles, like discounts

(03:09):
on parts if something's wrong. And that is scheduled for Monday,
so just in time for the heat. All right, I'm
gonna give you the phone number you can grab a
phone line love to talk to you about your home projects,
maintenance or repair. It's eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. So it's eight hundred eight two three

(03:29):
eight two fivey five. Write that number down too, because
we've got four hours of taking your calls the day
regarding your home projects. And we're going to talk to
Ron Wilson. What's going on outside. It is an explosion
of growth.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Holy cow.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
The landscape has really changed, you know, sunny today, so
the greens are greener, the purples are purple, more purple,
and it's really popping outside. So I'm sure Ron will
have some tips for us. Then we're going to talk
about a product we talked about that I don't know
a few weeks ago, and I've gotten so many questions
on it, I thought we'd have him back. And it's

(04:06):
the rollable stone coating called roller rock and you see
so many ads and different things about coatings for garage floors,
and this can be used on a garage floor also.
And we'll talk a little bit about the difference in codings.

(04:27):
We'll talk about his coding. Peter Diych should be joining us.
But there's so many other type of coatings being used.
You know, there's epoxies, there's industrial epoxies, there's polyureas, there's acrylics.
What is what? What are we going to get good
life of? I know some of the epoxies that are

(04:50):
i'll say generic, they've been out for a while and
they're not industrial epoxy coatings.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Gosh.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I know, for probably the last four years, I've been
say I'm not really a fan of them, not because
they peel off the floor or anything, and sometimes.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
They do if they're not properly prepared and stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
But you know, the basic epoxy coating that you're going
to pick up. I have a tendency to think it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Ugly is out.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are wears out after about four or six years. And
I've said this on his show before and people will have,
for the most part agreed. We've had a couple of
people say might look fine, and I say hooray, hooray.
Maybe you're not in and out of that garage as
much as some of the other people, but I always
felt like they.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Got kind of ugly, kind of tired.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And kind of worn after four to six years, in
my opinion, and geez, it wasn't really worth that effort
and that work. Now we're getting into some of these coatings,
they're talking fifteen and twenty years. So we want to
make sure or I want to make sure me personally
that if I'm I'm going to tackle that project, either

(06:03):
by myself or have somebody do it for me, I
want to get fifteen years out of that. And I
want to know what type of maintenance I need to
do to that floor during those fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
If it's just hosing it off, eh.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
No problem. Even a little scrubbing with a street proomm
no problem, A little bit of prep work, no problem.
But I want to know a little bit about the
different codings that are out there. I want to know
about what that project is involved or consist of to

(06:45):
make sure that that project works just the way I
want it and that it lasts. And there's so many
people out there advertising the stuff, same old thing U
that looks like h some explanations need so Peter and
I shall be joining us. We'll talk about his projects,
and of course we'll take your phone calls again. That

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number you can grab a line. It's eight hundred eight
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Speaker 3 (07:11):
And if you just.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Got a regular concrete garage floor, good, I'm not good.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's just that.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Our garage in so many homes, we use it as
an entryway into our home.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And if you got.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
An old garage floor and it's stained, and you know
it's got oil stains on, it is sturty, it's got chips,
it's got cracks, it's got a it's got a mess
on its hand, it's a it's a hot mess. As
they say, well, let's just clean it up and organize
it a little bit, all right, and let's remove the

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oil stains. There's all kinds of oil stain removers out there.
I kind of go through a littening when people talk
about getting rid of an oil stain out of a
concrete garage floor, I can't I go through. Well, we
could try this product, could try this product, could try
this product. Now, if you want the bomb, I mean
you want the big Boy, there's a product on the

(08:09):
Internet and I've not seen it fail. It's called ACT
and it's ACT cleaners dot com. The interesting thing about
this is a live microbe that actually eats oil. And
I'm not talking about oil from your truck. It does
that from your car. Yep, does that. Even if you

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have a nice composite decking on your deck and you
grilled out steaks the other day, but nobody replaced the
can to catch the grease and that gets on the
trucks decking or the composite decking. The ACT cleaner will
actually devour that too. It's a powder. You sprinkle it on.

(08:54):
It eats the oil from a car, diesel from a stay.
It eats that and then the powder disappears. There is
no scrubbing, there is no rinsing, and that might be
something that would be a good project. If you leave
the concrete in the garage, it's in good shape, it

(09:16):
looks good. You can live with it, but let's get
rid of those oil spots. That's one product I would
certainly recommend. It's very easy to use. You're not rinsing
it off and putting it into the watershed or anything
along those lines. It literally eats in devours that oil,
so pretty cool product. Anyway, We'll help you get your

(09:37):
garage and say shape. We'll help you with your outdoor projects,
and you can grab a line. Happy to talk about
your home project. Ron Wilson, He's up next, and you're
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Speaker 3 (12:45):
All right, our.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Next guest, Well, he's very very informative about the outdoors,
the landscaping, gardening, trees.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
The hullworks.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
But he's very, very very tired right now because he's very,
very very busy.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
In fact, if you go wondering to a.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Not wondering about, but yeah, kind of wondering about walking
through a garden center or something, maybe this weekend you're
gonna realize, Wow, these folks are really busy. And that's
what mister Wilson does for fun. Mister Wilson, how the
world are you big time out there right now?

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Did you say people were wondering why they went to
the garden store.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
They're wondering why they went to the gardening store.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
They're wandering through the garden store.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I guess it could be both.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
It's the first great weekend we've had and it just
coincides with Mother's Day weekend bam. And you talk about busy. Yeah,
be patient, have your list in hand, you know what
you're looking for, but be patient because it's going to
be crazy. It's gonna be crazy for you know what,
it's really going to be crazy for the next couple
of weeks at the garden stores because we go off
to a late start. Sure, so don't you know if

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you get there today and it's you've got plenty of
time to plant, and there's plenty of plants out there,
they'll be getting more in, they'll be restocking. So don't
feel like that. You know, everything's gonna sell out this weekend.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I'll tell you though, right, you warned people last weekend.
You said, hey, they will get there this week while
the weather's not so lovely and get your shopping done.
There'll be plenty of staff to help you. I know
exactly what You're talking about. Home improvements the same way.
All the you know, all the projects we have on
our list, be it gardening, be it painting. I mean,

(14:31):
we just kind of keep putting it off. It's kind
of still looks ugly outside.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I'm not worrying about it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm not worrying about and all of a Suddeny're like, well,
I gotta get this done today.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
And so yeah, did you have those mad rushes in
the hardware? Oh yeah, Mother's Day weekend.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Home improvement and guarding, we talked about it many times.
Our seasons kind of coincide. Oh yeah, and you know
the Super Bowl was always uh, you know, late April
or the first of May till mid I mean I'm
talking about.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Those are the eight weeks.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, those that's when eight weeks happens, and everything else
is you know, a steady climb to that and then
a steady fall off from that. But that's the peak
of the summit, and we are there.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
And a little bit in the fall for a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Hard to get excited about doing this stuff in the fall,
But you and I have also talked. I think it's
the best time to do a home improvement.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Project without a doubt, but you got to plan it now.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Well.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I think the thing about in the fall you're talking about, yeah, yeah,
And I think the thing about the fall I always
say is that you have a longer gardening season, And
it could be the same way with with the outdoor
improvements as well, because you know, you've got September, October,
November and most of the time, and the way it
is now into December agreed. Whereas here we're you know, now,
look at what happened in the spring. We're playing out

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this rainy spring season, cooler temperatures, and finally it's going
to start to break and we're already in the first
week of May, and you know, so all of a sudden,
it all gets compacted down into about a four to
six week period. But you know, it happened. I think
I've always told folks what's interesting is you and I
both have been in an industry. We both love, love

(16:07):
doing what we're doing, but we're in an industry that
we deal with something that we have no control over
every day. You're exactly right, and that's the weather, no question,
And we're very dependent on the weather, both of us.
Although indoor gardening or into our landscaping or yeah, indoor
gardening or whatever, or an into our home improvements can
be done on rainy days, but you know, we just

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there's that weather, so it just dictates what's going on.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I'll tell you, from a landscaping standpoint, I have to
tell you know it. It's like in the last two
weeks it went from very few leaves on trees to
full foliage bushes that were starting to leaf out. Now
they need trimming.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Mmm.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean it's just in ingress that wasn't really being
cut for maybe three or four weeks. M. None needs
to be cut about every four days.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
None needs to be bailed.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I mean, but it's like that kind of every year.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, some years worse than others. True, and this has
been one of those. Yeah, you know, I like this
spring with the cooler temperatures, the moisture has been great.
You know, a lot of plants that may have been
struggling and may not have done well. Have we gotten
into the heat and drought early, may have not done well.
And sometimes this helps to carry a plant on through
that may have been struggling and well, and you know,

(17:21):
brings it back around again.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
So that was one of the questions I had for you,
because you know how missus Sullivan as you.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Refer her to her, Yes, she asked me to.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
It is always chuckling about you calling a drought, yes,
And I told her our forecast is the upper eighties
by Friday, I said, you watch how fast things dry out,
and she laughed, she goes, you can't even walk through
our backyard. I said, you watch how fast things dry out.
So my question you is, when they are dry, you

(17:51):
can walk through the backyard, side yard or whatever. It'll
probably only take a couple couple of days really.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
And you're gonna walk.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I'm saying it's going to be a drought, but you'll
be able to walk through the yard. Is it better
to water to stay ahead and keep that high level
of moisture. Just go ahead and let it dry out.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Let it. It likes to breathe, so let it dry out,
then come back in water. Let it dry out. Then
they come back in water. So the soil wants to breathe.
It doesn't want to stay wet all the time. Good
even moisture is nice, not soggy wet. So you know,
you got to find that happy in the middle. And
I'm telling you, the way the weather has been yesterday, today,
and tomorrow, you're gonna be walking in the wet area

(18:31):
tomorrow night. I mean, you know, you get some sun
out there, seventy degrees, a little bit of wind blowing,
try and take long to dry that out. And I
think the thing we also have to remember, we got
a lot of rain this spring in our area. I'm
talking about our area specifically, a lot of rain this spring.
But you know what, ten days from now, two weeks
from now, that means nothing. Yeah, exactly, And you've got
to you know, you've got to keep up with it.

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So it means nothing. So all still count on all
your rainfall as a bonus yea, and water as needed.
And it's so important.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Actually if you listen to what I preach, and that
is the sloping of the soil away from the house
and things and maybe down into a ravine or a creek,
you're losing that water if you're on a hillside. So
you got to keep that in mind too.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Oh yeah, that's why hillside do you know they baked
the dry out quickly, And that's why all the weeds
are on the hillside not in the rest.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Of you yards.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, maybe we'll get a break when dries out.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Huh, yeah, you know, but I'm more excited. We're glad.
You know, it happens every year. We get fired up
for this, So get out. If you're locally owned independent
garden centers and have a great Mother's Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
All right, my friend, thanks for the info, my pleasure.
Appreciate take care. You can check out more of Ron Stiffs.
It's Ron Wilson online dot com. We'll take your calls
at eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
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a kick off to the weekend getting a few things
done around the home. I'm glad you could join me
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Let's go kick things off with Elizabeth.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Elizabeth welcome.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Oh, thank you so much. I need some advice I have.
I have somebody coming over next week to give me
an estimate on painting or fixing my pat wood patio.
One is in the sun most of the day and
the other one's in the shape. The other is in

(23:36):
the shade most of the day. They're about ten feet
wide and twenty some odd feet long with a greenhouse
or in between them. They're painted. I think I'm in
the house, and I think the wood patio was built
in nineteen ninety one, but they painted them. I think

(24:00):
the wood might be hickory. It's not what I'm used to,
which is redwood or pine. That track stuff. I don't
know what to do. Do they what they're going to
come over and look at it. I need to know
they're telling me what I really need to do.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, why don't you wait till they tell you what
you need and let's have that conversation, because you're going
to have a conversation with them anyway. So the paint
that's on there now, is it painted now? Yes? Is
it a healing or why are we having it painted?

Speaker 7 (24:34):
Well, it's painted already. I wouldn't have done that myself.
I like natural thing. But it's in the shaded area,
it's gotten moldy. In the sunny area, it's where the
walkway is. It's come off, it's worn, so I'm assuming
it has to be repainted with something.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well, yeah, I would say, so. Once you paint wood,
you paint wood, or you strip the paint off, which
can become a pretty big project. There's nothing you're gonna
do about the mold in the shady area, because that's
the way mother nature works. It's moldy and shady areas

(25:18):
and as far as bleaching out in the sunny areas,
it's kind of the way mother nature works too.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
So I don't know when. Do you know when it
was painted?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Less?

Speaker 7 (25:29):
No, I have no knowledge. We've only lived here about
a year and a half.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
My guess is they will use either a floor paint,
a deck and floor paint, or a solid color stain.
They will, you know, the process will be and they'll
go through the whole thing with you of cleaning it, uh,
scraping it down where it's paint, where it's if it's peeling,

(25:58):
they'll scrape it down. If it's just worn off, it
just worn off, you know, it's just worn It's a
matter of just you know, cleaning and painting at this point.
And my guess is, Elizabeth, not to tell you what
to do, but once it's been painted, you know, I'd
probably stay with the paint. If you get into stripping
that off, that's a that's a big project.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Justify the expense, right, Anything for.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
The time, which that's exactly what I'm saying. So I
think it's a matter of just good prep work and
repainting or using a solid color stain on it.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
So if they say paint, is there anything I should
look for in their brand of paint, well, I think
away from.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, I think they're going to have to make a
determination really what's on there before I can answer that.
I mean, if you were telling me you had a
stain deck and you want a solid color stain like
like paint, I would recommend maybe not a floor paint.
I would recommend a solid color stain. But I don't
know what they did. I don't you know, they'll be

(27:01):
able to determine. My guess is they'll do a solid
color stain or a porch and floor paint once they
determine what's on there. But I don't have a particular
brand that says, you know, you definitely need to go
on that.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I know Sherman.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Williams makes a wonderful porch and floor paint. They got
a super deck solid color stain. Either one of those
would go great, you know, I mean, with good prep work, thank.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
You so much. I'm wondering what I need to do
and how to do it.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Thanks Elizabeth, Thank you, bye bye. And you know, when
you get into those big projects, I talk about it often.
You know it don't hesitate to get a secondary quote.
That's why I always talk about start those projects earlier.
Here we are, you know, look at the calendar and
we're talking about a summer project. My guess that company

(27:56):
is a good busy company. You know, maybe maybe before
fourth of July. Maybe, So we'll see, we'll see. I
know a lot of workloads are backed up because of
some of the spring weather. All right, let's go to
John John welcome. Hey, Oh I'm sorry, it's Kent, Kent welcome.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
Sorry are you there?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm here, all right.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
Sorry. I'm putting in a drainage pipe. I have two
down spouts that I want to tie in and put
in a drainage pipe, and then I'm going to put
a driveway over that part of you know where where
those pipes come down. Should I use perforated CBC or

(28:49):
not perforated? Is there is there a reason I should
use one or the other?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well, if you had, if you're doing the it depends
where you want to disperse the water. That's that's easy answer.
And if you're you know, if you have it underneath
a gas or a driveway, my guess is if you
can exit that out of it by the curb or something,
you would use a solid If you exit that water
out underneath that driveway, you could cost some settling to occur.

(29:21):
So I see, So it kind of depends. So where
where is it going to exit if it is it
just running across the driveway or is it going on
length of the driveway or how's that set up?

Speaker 8 (29:32):
It's going to go along the length of the driveway,
so it's right up against the house, you know obviously
where the downspouts come down, and then and then the
driveway is going to go over that. But then I'm
gonna so the water is going to get dispersed down
you know, the after the far end.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Of the driveway, Okay, okay, So i'd use lope there where.

Speaker 8 (29:54):
It's going to go down, okay, you know, and then
it's just and then it's a it's graded down you know,
where it's is going to flow down the back of
the yard.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, So use a solid color pipe or use a
solid pipe, I would say in that particular case. So
the slitted pipe is to disperse water throughout or to
pick up water. So if you have and if that
driveway is a little bit on a slope, you're probably
not going to have, you know, a real wet area

(30:23):
to be picking up water. You're just carrying that water
away from that driveway, which would be key. You don't
need to you know, the water table is not the issue.
Underneath the driveway. The gutter is just looking for a
place to deposit that water. So a solid color and
exit down at the end of the drivewayud be fine.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Okay, all right? And are those pop up drains good
or am I better off just to daylight it and
you know, let it go into the.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
If I guess there's a place for a pop up drain,
but I know I gotta like one, two, three, four
or five five pipes. None of them have a pop
out because there's a nice little hill maybe and they
drain nice. Occasionally in the fall, I might have to

(31:15):
get my hand back there and scrape out some acorns
and leaves that the squirrels have been kind enough to
leave for me.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
But you know, if so, if you feel a need
that there would be a lot of wildlife stuff and
stuff down there where it's going to get clogged maybe,
but mine has plenty of force, and uh it's on
a good slope, no need.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
Okay, all right, great, And then one quick question for
the cement. I know that there's this fiber cement out there. Now,
do you have a preference? I don't know if not,
you know, non fiber is an option for me. I
haven't had the guy come out yet to pour the driveway,
but or look at it. But is that fiber or
good material or better?

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
It is.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
It really depends on what you're wanting.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Again, you know, that's the old thing about getting a
couple estimates and seeing what they're saying. You're going to
get a lot of different options. Certainly the fiber cement
is used, you know, you're going to have a lot
of specifications, as you do for a roof or a
bigger project from the you know, whether you put metal

(32:25):
messon there or just gravel. And you know, I mean,
if it was me, I gotta like to rebar the
metal mession there to hold it together. Four inch gravel
base compacted the four thousand PSI cement per square foot
or square inch four thousand psi and maybe even air

(32:49):
and trained if it's a cold weather climate might be
an option also. So to answer the question, the air
or the fiber cement that is being used more and more,
just like we got plastic pipe and we got copper pipe.
It's really a little bit of a preference. But I
kind of like the mesh. I mean, you can even

(33:10):
use the mesh and the fiber cement, okay, but I
do like the meshiin there.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Okay, all right, Yeah, I do have someone who is
going to you know, scrape it out and put the
mesha in now, Okay, go with that, and then whether
it's fiber or not, you know, we'll figure that out.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, fiber does help knit it together a little bit,
So if you have that option, then it's you know,
in the ballpark. Financially, I'd probably put the fiber cement
in there with the mesh. I think that'd be a
double whammy.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
That'd be good.

Speaker 8 (33:43):
Yeah, sounds good. All right, double protection.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yes, sir, very good.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
We'll always helpful. Gary. Okay, you're taking my call.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Thank you, Thank you, sir, Take care bye bye. All right,
you can join us. I got a couple spots for you.

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Speaker 2 (36:42):
All right, back at it, we go love miss before
the top of they are. By the way, when we
were talking about the concrete for driveways, just a couple clarifications.
One is the rebar the mesh is really what they're
going to use in that, definitely do that. I also
mentioned four thousand psi concrete, which is fine on the

(37:06):
apron you want to keep out at about six thousand psi.
And just a little caution here because we were kind
of saying, yeah, the fiber cement and all that, and
fiber cement is good, but also has a couple of negatives,
and one of those negatives and when we were talking
jumping back and forth, sometimes I kind of can confuse

(37:27):
you pretty easily. So the four thousand psi for regular cement,
which is good, fiber cement doesn't seem to hold up
as well on heavy loads. So again I don't know
how his driveways used, how many cars, what the kind
of cars are, but that's something to consider. Also, I
talked about air and trained being used in cold weather

(37:50):
climates where there's actually more breathability to the concrete. The
fiber cement doesn't have that. So I didn't really chicks
to see where that fellow was. I mentioned both, But
if it's in a real cold weather climate and you
got heavy vehicles, probably fiber cements not the best thing

(38:12):
for those. I mean, that's why they make different things
for different specific uses. Is just wanted to clarify that.
All right, let's go to Kent, Kent Welcome.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Hello. Yes, I've got an old house with an old
concrete pork it is. It is covered, and I put
roller rock on it two years ago. Okay, in fact,
call most of the day, matter of fact, but there's
about a two foot area where when it gets wet,
the water will pond. Okay, now, for the first oh,

(38:47):
up until late last summer about a year and a half,
I had no trouble at all. And now it's begun
to get under the roller rock and bubble up, and
so I'm going to have to redo that part of
the porch. And I'm wondering if I need to use
extra codes extra.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well or no, really, what you need to do is
we need to eliminate that ponding. I mean, regardless of
what you put down is swimming pool paint water sitting
on it a lot, it's going to fail faster. So
one of the things, and it's a it's a great question,
but one of the things that talks about is before

(39:30):
and it talks.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
About any paint it's not just roller rock.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
About making the area that's being painted have a positive
fall away from the house. In other words, no dips
in the concrete, no areas that they're going to retain
or hold water.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
So what I would do is.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Use a stripper or grinder and grind that area off
just you know where you're having the problem, and you
probably end up having to do the whole area. But
what you're going to do in that area where it's
ponding is you want to resurface or you want to
use like a leveling product that's going to keep that

(40:12):
from ponding water. So there's a couple of things. One
is called a resurfacer. The other is called a vinyl
concrete patcher. There's also one in that dish coding field.
It's called patch fix, rock fixa patch.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Fix or rock fix.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
It's one or the other. I forget exactly what it is.
It's a it's a pre mix non semitment, non cementatious
coating that can be trialed on. And what you can
do is you can trial it on and then lay
a two by fourth across the area where the where
the dip was, where it was retaining the water, and
it'll kind of show you, you know, whether it's level now,

(40:55):
and it'll shed that water because we definitely don't want
water pond there, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
Okay. I actually have the entire container of that rock
fix that I bought a couple of years ago when
it first came out. Okay, you fancy a couple of
places in the weather never did cooperative and it was
just it was just one of those years. It was
always way too hot or rain or so I got that.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
That's great, okay, Yeah, just use that get you know,
get that old stuff off, you know where it's peeling,
that's for sure, and level that up and then you
can go with the uh, you know, the roller rock
or whatever you want to use directly over the Yeo.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
The roll of rock paint is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
That does a great job.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Great and except I've never had a bit of problem
except for this one little area. Yeah, and you know
the rains during the day, and I know about it.
I can get out there and speek. It's when it
happens overnights, when it sits sure, sure during the day
and I know it's raining, I can get out there
and sleep it off, no problem.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, well I got to do exactly.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
That's gonna be more of a toor than I was hoping.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Well, that'll solve the problem for sure. So thank you
much for the call. I appreciate it. Can't take care
all right. Yeah, when the don't want water sedtling, you
don't want water ponding, because all it takes, you know,
once once that you know again if you got water sedtling,

(42:33):
it's ponding. And then when it gets really cold in
the winter time, yeah you got ice, then you got
pressure on that coating, and all it takes is a
little little, little little fracture in that coating and then
water gets underneath it. And then when that water freezes,
it begins to lift the paint up. H And it
doesn't necessarily just need to be you know, freezing temperatures

(42:57):
to do that. Just the abundance of water are sitting
on that will make any coating fail.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
For the most part.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
You know, like I said, unless you go use pool
paint or something or bird bath paint, but it will
eventually fail if you got water ponding on. So if
you can, you know, eliminate even if you're doing a
garage because we bring in a lot of gunk on
the back of our cars, especially in cold weather climates.
I call them snowbergs instead of icebergs that drop on

(43:26):
the garage floor. They melt and then all of a
sudden that pawn and it's always right by the driver's door.
Of course we know that. But if you have an
opportunity to resurfacing that whole area and clean that whole
area up, it's ideal to go ahead and get some
of that rock fix or the.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Final concrete pattern.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Just level that area out and then when you go
back with your coating, you don't have that pond anymore,
which is beneficial in two parts. Right Number one, it's
no longer a problem them with having a puddle water
right where you're gonna get out of your car. It's
also you don't going to have that problem of that

(44:07):
coating on that garage floor failing. So anyway, those are
dice coating products and They've got some wonderful uh stone
resurfacing products for di wires and professionals, and the roller
rock is the one we're talking about for exterior projects, steps, pulldecks, patios, walkways,

(44:28):
garage floors, balconies, even foundation walls, even some interior projects.
So check it out. It's d ai ch Coatings dot Com.
Peter Dish will be joining us at bottom of the
next hour. Joe and Channon sit tight. We'll get you
on the other side of the hours we continue. You're
at home with Gary Sullivan.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
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