Gary Sullivan 6/29/2024 Hour 4

Gary wraps up Saturday with your calls, questions and tips.

Episode Transcript

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Well, the best part of theday. I got to say, good
afternoon. Welcome nowur number four andyou're at home with Gary Salvin taking you
through the weekend once again, andno guests this hour, so just you,
me and well your questions about yourhome improvement projects. Feel free to
jump on board. It's eight hundredeight two three eight two five five,

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or you can try five to onethree seven four nine fifty five hundred.
Either one of those numbers will getyou to Danny and then you and I'll
chat and get you back to work. All right, that being said,
let's go back and get some questionsanswered, and let's go to Keith.
Keith, Welcome, Hi, thankyou very much. I appreciate you taking
my call. You're welcome. Myquestion is is I have a tree on

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the south side of my house thatwas trimmed up a couple of years away
from the house, but I dohave loss about twenty feet into the house.
It's not sick. I remember thisbroadcast. If there was something you
could spray on the roof and itwas eventually you know, softened it up,

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then you could rinse it right off. So that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, and the good news isyou probably won't even have to rinse
it. So the name of thatproduct is called wet and Forget. Okay,
they make it where there's a bottlethat you just connect a host to,
which might be really convenient for theway you describe where the problem is.

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So you just screw a garden hoseonto it and it'll spray I'll say
twenty five feet on a calm day, so you know you should be able
to cover that whole area. Andliterally all you do is just wet it
down, preferably on a you know, calm maybe overcast day where there's not

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much evaporation, and then let mothernature take over. Because between the rain
and the sun and about four tosix weeks worth the time, that stain
will just disappear. There's no rinsingthat needs to be done. It will
just clean it up. Sounds toosimple, It is pretty simple. I

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get a lot of people write andme going like, I can't believe it.
You're exactly right, But there'll bea period in there you'll be second
guessing. You'll be going like it'sfour or five weeks, I don't see
anything happening, and just be patient. It'll get there. That's to be
patient. Yep, yep, andvery little work. Wet and forget it

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says the whole that's the directions.Well great, and I could probably get
it at any box story can anyhardware store pretty much carries out. Even
a lot of big box stores arecarrying it. Now. You can get
it on Amazon. You can getit at wet Andforget dot com rank.
Yeah, well, thank you.I appreciate your help. All right,
you're welcome, Thank you, byebye. Got a lot of questions about

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that particular product. And we arein the day of the time where we
start seeing mildew and algaeen fungus andyou know, mold even now of cleaning
up, whether it's the roof,whether it's the pavers, the patio,
the deck, the side of thehouse, whatever, does a great job.
All right now, Linda, welcome, Thank you for taking my call.

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You're welcome. I had about aweek ago my basement waterproofs where they
dug like a little trench around theinside. Uh huh, And okay,
I have got on my basement flooron the inside. It's not it's not

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like where they dug or anything.At different places. I had these little
spots of white, fluffy, mildewy, moldy stuffs. My son in law
looked it up and he he wastelling me he thinks it's called like efflorescence.
Efflorescence. Okay, what do Ido? Well? There are you

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know, a mild acid or avery strong detergent that you can use to
clean efflorescence. But it's also youknow, it's reacting with the lime and
the salts in the concrete. There'swater underneath that, So what it is
is it's kind of a slow degradingof concrete. I'm not trying to scary.

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It's not like your floor is gonnafall in or anything, but that's
what it is. There's water sittingunderneath that slab, and it's it's probably
been going on for a long time, and then on one day you start
seeing this salty, white fluffy stuffand it's efflorescence. It's the lime that's
kind of blooming out of the concrete. So I guess my point is you

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can get a efflorescence and rusty movingproduct. It is a mild acid.
You scrub it off, but it'sgonna come back. Okay, It's gonna
just be something you're gonna have tomaintain and it might take a couple of
years to come back. It mightcome back in six months. I don't
know how bad the problem is underneaththat slab, but it'll come back.

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It'll come back. Even if youhad the water totally corrected, it'll still
come back. So here's what's probablygoing on, just from a little educational
standpoint, Linda, And I'm assumingwhen you told me the people you hire

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to control the water, they builtlike a little trench down where the floor
in the wall is and as itleaks through the walls, it's sent into
this trench and then maybe routed tothe some pump and then pumped away from
the house. Is that true?Mhm? Okay, I had a sump

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pump. They put a new sumppump in over on the opposite corner.
I live in a squad level,Okay, So they put this other some
pump in and the some pump thatI had is over like next to the
water heater and the air conditioner.And I think he told me that that

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would just you know, he wouldjust leave that there and it would sort
of handle the condensation or whatever itis the water. So since since this
trench has been dug them. That'snot going to make this water dry up

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and not come through the floor eventually. Yes, that that's that's not going
to solve that problem. Because here, here's the deal. When you're bringing
water into your home. There's twoways water gets in your home. One
is what you have. It wouldcome through the walls, whether you know,

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like if you have cracks or thingslike that. And there's companies out
there that'll dig this trench. They'llsay, well, let's relieve the pressure.
Let's bring the water into this trench. We'll send it to us sump
well and we'll pump it away fromthe house. And it does that.
But the problem isn't just the watercoming in through that side wall in your

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case, it's the other stick.Yeah, it's coming up to the floor.
So what's going on is your watertable below your house is rising and
it's rising higher than the floor.Now, depending on the type of depending

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on how that trench is put up, that could help a little or it
could not help at all. Soit's kind of like Venice, Italy.
You know you got Saint Mark's Square. The water rises, it bleeds through
the concrete and there's a foot ofwater, you know, like every day
in Saint Mark's Square in Venice,Italy. So yours isn't doing it every
day. But we're taking the wateraround the perimeter outside part of that foundation.

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We're bringing it into your house,and we're sending it over to the
sump well to pump it away.But at some point there's water building up
underneath that slab that's not catching thepipes along the perimeter, okay, And

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they could be if they're slotted pipes, that would be catching the water before
it started bleeding through the floor.But usually those companies that do the trenches
along the perimeter, they don't usethat type of piping. They're just simply
correcting the problem where the water's comingthrough the wall, not coming up through
the floor. Are you getting anypuddles in the floor on the floor,

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not since well I haven't had agood rain since they put the okay,
oh but before then I did,I guess. Okay, it was like
seep beach from each corner or eachside of my basement, and it would
sort of cool down and then flowto the drain. Okay, Well,

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let's not panic. Maybe it'll work. I mean, maybe they put this
trench in again, Like I said, there's different configurations, so I don't
really know exactly what they did.But if they are, if there's pipe
along the exterior perimeter or the interiorperimeter, it may catch that water that's

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coming up and rout it to thesump well and pump it away and you
won't have that problem anymore. Ifit's just a trench that they're letting flow
to the sump well, you maystill have that problem. So I you
know, it depends. It depends. Do I need to put like a

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not necessarily a poly your thing,but like a waterproofing substance on the floor.
You can, It's probably not goingto help totally with the efflorescence.
What I would do is, let'ssee how you can also call them too

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Okay, but my let let's waitand see what happens when we have a
real hard rain. Let's see ifany water shows up in that floor.
If no water is showing up inthat floor, you're probably good to go.
If you want to do something,you know, in terms of a
ceiling or something, there's a productit's called dry lock, and it's made

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for floors. They make it forwalls. They make it for floors,
they make it for walls and floors, depending on the product. But they
make a dry lock clear and that'sused for floors and walls. The other
products can't be used on the floor. The dry lock clear can be used
on floors and walls. You canget that and you can put that on

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the floor, and it kind ofcreates almost like a water vapor barrier,
so that water that even condensation can'tcome up through the floor, and it'll
hold back ten pounds per square inchof water. Uh. And then with
that drainage around the exterior, wehave to see how it goes, I

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mean, because we don't really knowhow it was constructed. But worth you
can just sweep up the f fluorescentstuff and dump it in the garbage.
I mean, yeah, yeah,it's just salts it salts in lime.
Okay, all right, thank youvery much. I appreciate it. All
right, very good, thank you. All right, let's take a little
break when we come back. Rayyou'll go first, and then a rain

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and I've got some more I'd liketo add on that particular problem too.
A lot of times I'm always talkingabout the whole system. Yeah, a
whole system of waterproofing. I'd liketo explain that rather than just the halfway
system and how you benefit from that. We'll do that next as we continue
at home with Gary Salivan right herein fifty five care see detalk station.

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All right, back at it,we go taking your calls regarding a little
home improvement. And let's get rightback to the phone calls, and again
I will talk a little bit moreabout that whole leaky basement thing, a
little more the other steps to reallyreally solve the problem totally where it can

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be warranted. I think that needsexplaining. Ray, welcome, Hi,
how are you doing? Yes,sir? Fine, quick, Hey,
I have a question. I havea epoxy floor down. It's a couple
of stone and it's just coming upall over the place. Wondering what's the
best way to remove a couple stoneor a POxy floor whatever they call it.

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Well, what so there's a POxypain? Is this pain or is
this actually stone? This is actuallystoned tubblestone put on top of I okay,
and they never got stealed and wegot sealed and it's okay. I

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would use you could do a coupleof things. One of them is you
could use like a you know whatan old fashioned ice scraper is, where
it's got a four foot handle anda metal plate at the end. Oh
okay, yeah, you can breakit up with that. You can also
get a tile removing rent a toolwhere it's got a plate on the front

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of it and vibrates and pops thatoff. So you got to break the
adhesion. The way a lot ofthose are poxies are applied is they'll get
the concrete down to a bare surfaceand they'll have run a grinder over it,
and then they'll take these small stonesabout the size of your fingernail.
They'll mix it into a POxy batterand they will trial that over the existing

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concrete and then seal on top ofthat. And so what you got to
do is you got to get aplate under there to break that adhesion between
the stone and the concrete slab.Okay, that won't damage that existing for
concrete. Well you know, Imean, I'll say no, but it's

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at the angle that you're hitting it, and how hard you're hitting it,
it should pop off. So Iwould say no, it wouldn't, but
you're gonna have to get it ata low angle and just kind of pop
it. You start pounding it rightinto the concrete. At a seventy degree
angle, you could certainly chip it, you know, so you're want to
scrape it, not come straight downon it. Okay, I think I've

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seen a video with something like thattoo, you mentioned, So that's just
a lot of manual work. Yeah, yeah, And what you what you
might do in all seriousness if yougot like a two car garage or something,
and you know, you might lookat renting. You know, a
tie removing They make them in gas, they make them in electric, where

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that plate just vibrates and breaks itup as you go, and that's going
straight in you know, like afive degree angle. Oh okay, Okay,
there's a rental corral near me.Okay, ask them about that.
Yeah, you might check that first, and then you take a lot of
that manual labor out. Okay,how did you describe that machine? Uh,

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it's a ceramic towel or tile removingmachine. It's about the size of
a gas lawn adger really, andit's got a plate in the middle of
it and two handles. Just standbehind it and let it vibrate. You
know, it goes right at theedge and vibrates and start breaking and starts
breaking it up. Oh okay,okay, well that's exactly what I need.

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It's it's coming up anyway, butI need to get und it up.
Yep, I hear you. Well, thanks for taking my car,
Thanks for taking my call. I'mgoing to look into that all right,
right, thank you, take care, good day. Mm hmm bye bye.
All right, just spend a quicktime and then we'll get to Randy.
When you're talking about water proofing abasement, and I'm not a huge

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fan though we all try it.We try stopgap measures. You've heard people
call and you know, what canI patch that crack with? And how
about hydraulic cements? And I alwaysask them, where's that water going to
go if you patch that? Orcompanies that will come in and injecting a

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POxy in a wall and seal thatup, Well, where's that water going
to go? Problems on the outside. You got to correct where that water
is going to go. Or acompany and he had says, well,
we're gonna cut, you know,three inches away from the wall, four
inches away from the wall. We'regonna dig down and and we're gonna just
route that little corridor culvert that we'regonna put in your floor right to the

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sump well and put a little coverover it. Well, you're bringing water
in your home, so you're bringingup humidity and you're bringing it to the
some p one's that's all good.You're gonna take care of that portion of
the water. But if you haveproblems with a high water table, just

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because where your house has sided orwhere it's resting, and you got all
these homes around it and the waterflows towards your house, you also have
water maybe not even coming through thewalls. Maybe you just got a water
table that exceeds and goes up overthe floor and you start getting a wet
spot in the middle of the floor, and then wherever there's a little dip,
you get a little puddle. That'skind of a different problem. When

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you have a whole system installed,they'll patch the concrete walls and they'll put
drainage around the outside of the home, not inside your home, to catch
that water and move it away fromthe outside so it's outside to outside.
Find out where the excessive moisture iscoming from. Maybe it's because of the
grating. We can have that changedout too. That's with the whole system.

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And then they'll put a dig downfrom the wall in the floor,
maybe dig down six inches eight inches, and they'll put a perforated black plastic
pipe with holes in it. Whereasthe water table increases, it gets caught
in that pipe and is routed toa sump well. So now we've corrected

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the source of the water outside.We've patched the cracks in the wall,
and we caught the water that's comingup because the water table's too high.
That's a complete project, and that'swhere people will guarantee their work. Okay,
So I just want to draw thatdifference. Our phone number, if
you'd like to jump on board,love to talk to you, it's eight

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hundred eight two three A two fivefive. We'll take a little break.
Randy, you'll be up first aswe continue, and then John join us.
We're talking about your home and you'reat home with Gary Salvan right here
on fifty five car see de talkstation. All right, Beck at it
we go, talking a little homeimprovement. Thank you very much for joining
me. As we've been chatting about. I guess a lot of the woes

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that we all find ourselves in whenwe own a home. There's some big
improvements that have to happen, there'ssome little tweaks that have to happen,
and really depends on you know,what's going on and how much money it's
going to cost and how much skillit's going to take. And I get
that, and that's what we talkabout every weekend and often coin the phrase

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that little five dollars repair that youcan ignore. Don't ignore it because is
this going to turn into a fiftydollars repair and then a five hundred dollars
repair? So we chat about thata lot. And hope you enjoyed the
show, and if you've got aquestion, you can doll us up.
It's a five to one, threeseven fifty five hundred and Randy, welcome.

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Hi, Hi Gary. I justwanted to elaborate on a on a
conversation earlier in reference to thermostats havingthe setting on on versus automatic, and
uh, the comment you had madeis, you know, there are some
systems that are designed that they needto be on correct, and that's I

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can't disagree with that. But whatI wanted to elaborate on is the fact
that because there is a switch ona thermostat that'll give you the option of
on or auto. Is there fora good reason. And here's what I
believe the reason is. And obviouslythat's just my opinion, and I'm going
to throw it out there. I'veonly been an h FAC for about twelve

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years, and what I feel likeis when the temperatures are moderate, so
moderate might be, say they're inthe upper seventies or low eighties, that's
moderate temperature, you would have yourthermost on automatic, and so it's going
when we're in the cool and sowhen you're trying to cool your house at

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whatever the temperature you're trying to setit at. I heard you say you
set yours at seventy eight. Iwouldn't get away with that at my home.
My wife would shoot me. Butthe bottom line is whatever temperature you
want it at, your system's goingto maintain a lot easier in automatic,
and it'll continue to go off andon, but it'll do it moderately because

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it's not trying. The temperatures arenot drastic between inside and outside. But
when we get into the upper temperaturesof ninety degrees, upper eighties, low
nineties or above, your system's gonnaconstantly be cycling on and off in the
auto because your air conditioner is goingto cool the house down, then the

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house is going to heat back up. It's going to turn it back on
and so forth. So you're gonnahave a lot of on and off on
the blower motor. So the bestthing to do is to put it on
and high temperatures when you're trying tocool your house. And therefore, if
the motor will sit there and justrun along, and you'll use less electricity

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with it running constantly than you wouldfor start stop, start stop, start
stop when it's high temperatures. AndI believe the same thing goes with heating
your house. When your temperatures arein the forties and you want your temperatures
in your house in the sixties orlow seventies, your system is going to

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continually to it'll turn off and onaccording to the thermostat. It'll do it.
It won't do it all that often, but when it gets down below
thirty in the twenties and low thirtiesand twenties, your your your furnace is
gonna constantly turn off and on tomaintain and therefore, just turn it on

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on in low temperatures for heating orhigh temperatures for cooling, and you'll get
more bang for your buck because you'rewhen you talk about a thermostead is in
one location of a house, right, You've got rooms that are often the
You got one bedroom, might havetwo outside walls, right, Yeah,

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and so those air those rooms arenot gonna when you're heating, are going
to be cold. And so themore the fan sucks that air back and
reconditions it and sends it back out, the more moderate. Everything's gonna a
field. But under normal conditions.That's why there's an automatic just when the

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eighty comes on, let it.Let the blower come on. When the
heat comes on, let the blowercome on. But well, let me
interject. I just felt like Ineeded to share that. Yeah, well,
no, I appreciate it. Andto be real honest with you,
Andy, you've got more education onair conditioning and heating than I do.

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However, San hevn't said that.Your answer right there was what I professed
for thirty five years, okay,and then this is where my change comes
in. I hear everything you're saying, I professed it for thirty five years,
and and you know I talked toa lot of different people and educators

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in this area. I mean,that was the answer. That's the answer.
And I was talking about my houseone day, probably two years ago,
and summertime hot, humid outside,and I was talking about how important
it is, you know, tocontrol the humidity inside your home, and

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you know, if you can kindof keep that humidity below fifty five percent,
you could probably raise the temperature settingon your thermostat. And I was
telling everybody. I said, man, I'm having a dickens of a time.
I cannot do it. My homeis too humid. I've got to
do you umidify a running in thebasement. I can't control this. And
this guy who was heating and airconditioning business calls me up and says,

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what do you got your fan on? I said, I got it on
auto, or I got it onon. I'm moving that air, moving
air is dry air. I'm movingair to balance out the temperatures in the
house. And he said, well, that's your problem. I said,
what do you mean it's my problem? He said yeah. He says,
the reason you can't control your you'rehumidity level. And he didn't talk about

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variations in temperature so I apologize.Don't know how that fits in. He
said, what's going on is yougot that blower going all the time.
Those coils in there are ringing wet. You're circulating air all day long.
You got to get that fan whereit's on auto, and you're giving it
sometime to allow that condensation to getdown in the drain and maybe dry out

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the coils to a degree. Andwe didn't get too specific, and he
said, I guarantee you you'll loweryour humidity level, You'll be able to
raise your temperature, and you're gonnabe comfortable and aust the goodness. Ye,
I'm like, no way, noway. I got off the show.
I still remember as a Saturday,I got off the show and I

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did exactly that. And I've hadit set like that for two years.
I run the fan on on inthe wintertime, I run it auto in
the summertime. I woke up thismorning. My umunity in my house,
which would have been about sixty twoyears ago, it was forty nine percent.
I have it set on seventy eight. The temperature in the house was

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seventy six I think. So Ikind of started talking about that and it
was a total change for me,okay, And I'm not an HVAC person,
so i just want everybody know that. But I'm telling you it worked
for me. And I talked aboutit several times, talked about today,

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and I'd get emails all the timewith the same results. So I don't
know. I even asked my HVACHe got Randy and he said no,
And I said, he told methe same thing you said. It was
the same thing I said for thirtyfive years. I'm with you, but
I changed and it's really helped me. Well, you know, And that's

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all you can do, is ifwhatever's working for you. Every there's so
many different perimeters about the way yourhouse is designed, insulation wise, which
way the you know, the windowsare, the majority of your windows are
facing in what direction? All thatis factors. But everybody that I walk

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into a house and I'm there foran HVAC reason, that's the biggest question.
I get asked, should I havethat on? Should I have that
on on? Or automatic? AndI think, you know what, there's
a lot of opinions out there whatwork, But here's what I do.
All I can say is try it, and if you're happy, leave it.

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That way, and if you're not, And I think that I just
wanted to share that I appreciate.I appreciate and I really did, honest,
I mean, that's the way todo it. Man. I always
that was it. I lived bythat, And when this guy said it,
I was laughing. I'm gonna gotry that. And you know,
for whatever reason, I even saidto my wife the other days, it's

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amazing. This house is more comfortablethan it's ever been. And I don't
know, I don't know. SoI think what we've come to the conclusion,
Randy, and I believe this too. A lot of it too,
depends on the systems. I knowwith the new five speed now you know,
he said, well they my heatingguide told me to leave it on
or whatever it should run all thetime. And I don't know a lot

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about those. And I'm going like, well, if he told you,
ed, I'd stay with it.But never hurts to experiment a little bit.
You got a weather station in yourhouse. It's telling you what the
humidity is, it's telling you whatyou're setting. Is it telling me what
your air temperature is? Try somethingelse if you're not comfortable and see if
there's a you know, see itjust as kind of we both kind of

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talk. But I appreciate what youtell me, and I understand and believe
me. And if you ever getan opportunity, maybe just try the other
way and see just give me yourfeedback on all right, Thank you very
much, Randy, I appreciate it. We'll take a little break and we'll
come back and John, you'll befirst, kind of wrapping up the show
today. Don't forget. We dodo the show from nine to noon tomorrow,

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so we get you both days.You're at home with Gary Salvan right
here in fifty five care Seed Detalkstation. Back to where we go.
It's been a busy, busy dayand I'm glad you all could tune in
and we could shout about well issueswe have around the home. So as
we wrap up the Saturday, well, let's get right back to the phones,
get as many people want as wecan. John welcome, Hey Gary,

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thanks for taking my call. You'rewelcome. The question I have is
you've worked me through a lot ofprojects, but I need to refinish the
floors in my house, and thatone I'm not taking on myself, okay,
And I've been getting some getting somequotes and the question that they all

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are saying, a oil based finishor a water based finish. Yes,
do you think would be the besthouse with a dog? Yea and no
kids? Well, I think there'spros and cons to both to be wrong
and not not to be a politicianwith you, but I think they're there

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there. You know, they bothhave their good points and their bad points.
Let's start with the old standby,the oil based finish. Oil over
time will amber and darken oil.And I'm giving you the negatives. Okay,
oil over time will possibly fade.If you got like a big transom

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window over an entry door, thatcould fade. So there is some changing
of color over time. It justdoesn't stay crystal clear when it's being applied.
There's an odor to it. Somepeople just can't even tolerate that.
They have to go out of thehouse and till that flooring finish is completed.

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You have to wait time in betweencoats to put a multiple coat,
you know, over a wood floor. So time is involved for the flooring
company and that affects the cost.The pros is it's it's harder than the
water basse. They've improved that dramatically. When it first came out, the

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water base couldn't handle a hold acandle to the oil base. But with
some of the new modified type waterbases, they are they've improved, but
they're still not as hard as anoil base. So it comes to a
traffic You said you had, youknow, pats and you might need a

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little bit more protection. You'll paya little bit more, and you got
the other things to consider. Thewater base also stay crystal clear, so
there won't be any ambering. Andif you're trying to match another part of
like the dining room to the foyer, and you're not going to refinish that,
there might be you know, agood pro can probably still match that,

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but you know it might be alittle dicey. So you know the
water base will stay clear, soyou know it is kind of really what
you want. Then the other thingwith the water base, of course,
you know the dry times fast,the recode times fast. You could probably
do a couple of coats, youmay even multiple coats in a day,

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whereas an oil base that may bespread out over a couple of days.
So cost will be lower because youknow you're minimizing drive time and it's more
efficient, right, okay, allright, well that helps. I mean,
but you're saying the newer technology onthe water base has definitely improved it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, andthat's relative too, so you know,
I'm talking about when the water basesfirst came out, but water bases
have become more acceptable. They areharder than they were when they came out.
No, I wouldn't say they're ashard as the solvent baste, but
they're not bad. They're not badat all. Okay, all right,

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well that helps a lot, youknow, just trying to figure out which
is the big best way because thesefloors we have aren't terrible and they've been
twenty five years plus. Yeah,well, I hope it's kind of change.
Yeah. The key is all thetime, you know, it's it's
the flooring company too. And ifyou got one that can educate you on

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that and talk to you about that, you know a lot of times their
recommendation, you know, they seeit and they've met with you, and
you know, good flooring companies shouldbe able to get a read on that
for you. Okay, right,all right, well great, I appreciate
the information. Very good, Thankyou much. Take care all right,
let's get to Dan. Dan Welcome, Hey, thank you Gary. I've

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been listening to your show on theway home from getting a car maintained love.
All the colors that fall in myquestion is I am a I'm that
guy in the neighborhood I go out. I live in cold Spring, Kentucky,
and there are a number I havea home that's sixteen years old,
and I have an aggregate driveway okay, and I make a little monk in

(35:30):
the community by going to different people, friends that I know, and say,
would you like your driveway sealed again? So my question is, I'll
tell you what I've been the concretestores. I've been to Sherwin Williams.
I've been to Low's, I've beenat home Depot, I've I've bought high
end products, I've bought low lowend products. And I don't care what

(35:53):
I buy. None of it lasts. I know a lot of it has
to do with sunnachsposure, right.But I would like to give the people
that I, you know, dothis this repair to their driveways to you
know, get more for their money. And it you know, I don't

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like I said I put on Iwent to loads because you know, I've
done used Low's products before, andthis superior might be one hundred and fifty
five dollars. The premium might beone fifty. My neighbor up the street
David did his last year. Heused a tinted stealer. It looked nice.

(36:35):
I don't like it nearly as wellas I like to clear. But
what do you know, I'm tiredof doing this? They laugh. You
know. The thing is with ceilingand aggregate concrete is like ceiling stamped concrete
yees, so it's a coding,it's not a penetrant, and it's clear,

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and the sun will beat up aclear coating, whether it's a wood
deck or whether it's your concrete drivewayor your aggregate you know, sidewalk,
You're you're gonna get no more thanthree years out of it, and you're
probably really lucky if you get two. And I don't look, I don't

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know if anything that's gonna last longerthat. I mean, they might tell
you three to five, But ifyou've got a southwest facing and that sun's
hitting it dead on on that driveway, it's gonna last you two years.
I would tell most people if Iwas applying an a clear coating with achine
to it, whether it's on apaver, or whether it's on stamp concrete,

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or whether it's on an exposed aggregate. I would say, you're not
gonna get past three years, Okay, I mean I don't know if anything
that's gonna last longer that. Ifit's a deck, you won't get past
one year. Yeah, I don'tget I don't get three years. You
know, if I had what wouldbe your best guess at? What would

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you know? What would be yourbest guest for a product that maybe I
haven't tried. I'm gonna give youtwo. I'm gonna give you a product.
I'm gonna give you another place tocheck. I don't know what their
inventory, but they have a lotof specialty products. So the one is
on a on a website. It'scalled masonry Defender dot com. Masonrydefender dot

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com has sealers that are projects specific. So they got one for grush for
they got one for papers, theygot one for bricks, and they got
one for stamp concrete. And Idon't know if they list exposed aggregate,
but it's exposed to aggregate and stampconcrete sealer. That's our high quality one,

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but you're I'm not going to getmore than three years out of it.
Now. If I got three,I'd be a happy boy. Okay,
So that would be my recommendation ofproducts. I know that's a really
good one. Now you can alsogo to a company. Have you ever
heard of Janelle? I've heard ofit, but I've not been there.

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I would go up and talk tothem. There are other seilers that are
even a little bit beyond, youknow, things that I talk about and
research, and it's more of acommercial I mean, they they commercial seilers
they have. I mean they gotconcrete seilers for you know, airport runways,
you know. I mean they theygot they got a seiler that'd be

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one hundred and seventy dollars a gallonthat if you had a stamp concrete and
all the colorants out of it,that if you put it on there,
it'll revitalize that color. I couldn'ttell you what the name of it is,
but I would check with them andsee get their story. I gave
you mine. Yeah, what's thespelling on Janelle? I think it's JA

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and E L L. And theygot multiple locations in the Cincinnati area.
But give them a call and seesee what they got. But as far
as I know, you know that, I could say, yeah, try
that one. That's kind of mystory. All right, buddy, I
appreciate your time and look forward tolistening to the rest of your show.

(40:30):
All right, very good, Thankyou much, appreciate it. Take care,
boy. I'll tell you what.We're out of time. But it
was a heavy duty four hours.Sundays, you know what, they're not
always quite as busy. We startat nine am. He started off slow
today, but he did get busy. Yeah, even Sundays, you know,

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he's just always get nine am.It's the weekend. I get it.
But we're here. And if youhave trouble getting through, and I'm
sure a lot of people did today, if you make a little note of
it, you call tomorrow morning betweenprobably nine and ten, you won't have
any trouble at all. You'll beable to get on board right away.
And that's good. We can getyou some information and get you back to

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work right away. So make noteof that. We do nine to noon.
Also, if you missed a discussionabout the Diehard Max garage floor coating,
the epoxy coating industrial strength, whereit doesn't ugly out like some of
the others. I want you tocheck diceh Codings. It's Daichcoatings dot com.

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They got a ninety nine dollars specialtwo hundred and fifty square foot kit
free shipping, and you can alsogo to their website. You can hear
the whole interview, by the way, on the iHeart app. We got
it set up as a podcast.Danny's done that and you'll get some good
information on something you might want toadd to your home. All right,

(41:58):
Danny boy, great job. Iknow we kept you busy today, and
good Lord Willing, we'll be backtomorrow for more At Home with Gary Sullivan