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July 13, 2025 • 45 mins
Wrapping up Sunday with your calls, tips and questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, it's a weekend. Welcome aboard. You're at home with
Gary Sullivan. Well, I got to tell you about Jaws Cleaners.
I don't have to, it's just that they're sponsoring this hour,
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(00:55):
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do that with other window cleaners. It's not gonna streak,

(01:15):
it's not going to hurt the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I use it on my TV screens.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
There you go. You can use it there. And uh,
if you use another type, don't because it couldn't ruin
the screen. Not the Jaws. Uh. And you run out. Well,
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(01:41):
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Let me give you the oh number. I know several
people were trying to call in during the break. Danny

(02:03):
is now at the wheel. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Go ahead and give us
a call. We'll talk about your home project, as we've
talked about a lot of projects today, from window calkings
to the track Safe product, which is a I'm so
glad when we have Peter day Sean because he's one

(02:26):
of the few people that I chat with for a
half hour because A he's very good and his products
are even better and they feel such a niche and
such a void. But the track Safe again, how many
times have you struggled with the garage floor that gets,
you know, pretty slippery when he gets wet, or the

(02:49):
pressure tread steps going into the house from the garage
that was mine, by the way, and years ago before
track safe was invented, we had problems like many people
do with press treated wood to get slippery, and I
put these four inch black three m grit strips down

(03:16):
almost for the marine industry, and man, it did a
great job. In fact, it's still there and it's not
an issue. But having said that, had the track stay
safe been available, certainly would have enjoyed just putting that
on there, not and having that black strip. It can
go over painted services, concrete surfaces, and all kinds of

(03:40):
different products, even Seramy Kyle showers, which I was surprised
I didn't know it did that also, So we thank
Peter for spending a half hour with us, and lots
of great products there. All right, let's go to the
phone calls, and by the way, the number is eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five to grab

(04:00):
a line Mike Welcome showers.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Which, hey, how you doing Gary?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It was fine? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Okay. So basically I tried almost every product as far
as hard water stains on shower doors and my exterior windows.
And I noticed that the people that clean the windows
and stuff, they come to your house and they have
a certain chemical as far as that or what do

(04:29):
you recommend using.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well, I'll tell you what I would use. I was
just talking about Jaws cleaners. Let me let me preference
this first. I don't know if you've ever tried Barkeeper's
Friend or not.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Barkeeper's Friend is a very very mild oxolic acid and
it is a powder, and you can if you have
some Barkeeper's Friend. It's an old product, it's been around
for a long time. Does a good job, and it's
like the stains you have are pretty stubborn, so you know,

(05:04):
we'll see how it does. But I would try that
if you have some. It's very inexpensive and you can
use it on windows. You can use it on shower
doors and everything else. But one of the products that
I would say super exceeds pretty much anything I've used
for water stains on glass. It is a Jaw's product,

(05:25):
and I when I was just talking about Jaws products,
I didn't mention it, but it's probably my second favorite one.
And it's called cream cleanser, and the cream cleanser can
be used on glass. It's got just a tad of
grit to it, and it's undefeated in my house. In fact,

(05:46):
I have a glass top stove with halogen burners and
get stained you know food, you know, bubbles over or
something like that. It leaves a stain in I'll tell you,
the cream cleanser is about the only thing I've ever
used that ever really got it off and it does

(06:07):
a great job. And again, if you got some barkeeper's friend,
sure go ahead and use it and give it a try.
If you can't, if it doesn't work, get some of
the cream cleanser.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Okay. So basically, when these guys go around the houses
the clean windows and stuff, and this stuff is a
cream you're saying, is there, Well.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I don't know if they're using it. I don't know,
you know, a professional window cleaner sometimes, Mike, Again, I
don't know what they're using. But I have a lot
of times they'll take soap and just soap and water,
or a try sodium phosphate in water, and they'll use

(06:49):
four hot steel wool on glass, which I try not
to recommend, right, but they can make that glass shine
like a diamond. So maybe that's what they're using. If
they're using water in a mop and they're rubbing it,

(07:10):
I'm gonna guess it's a soapy water solution with four
hot steel wool.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Okay, And as far as let's say, if I went
ahead and you still woll, would zero zero zero be
recommended to use on glass.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Four hot zero zero zero zero.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah for still wool? You know, right, you know it's
like to find this one that help out using that stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well again, I'm always a little nervous about recommending that
to anybody. But that's what window cleaners will use, is
four hot steel wool and soapy water.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Okay. Well, I really appreciate it. I'm not shy everything
he said. And thanks for great service, sir.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You're quite welcome. Thanks, Mike, take care, call any time.
I appreciate it. All right, again, it's eight hundred two
three eight two five five and let's go to less
Less welcome.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah, Hi, Gary, money is less. I've ever called into
a talk show before, and I have a unique situation
going on with my house. Okay, wow, So I had
a chimney delete, gutters replaced in a new roof and
the facers replaced.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
The carpenter replaced.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
The faces with.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Time fur.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
And did not seal any.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Of the sides prior to the gutters being put up.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
I live next to a river in a foggy area,
and now I'm afraid that they're only gonna last five
to eight years, and the roof's gonna last thirty. And
I'm trying to figure out what.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
What now you get you can still react? Is it
the facia, the n cuts of the board. Is that
what wasn't sealed.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Sides were unsealed all six sides. They also used what
looks like a painter's putty on any of the areas
that needed filling in the corners and WHATNOTU.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
So, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
I'm looking for a solution other than rip it all
apart and replace it, because i'd have to take part
of the roof up.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, you know it's a mess.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. So have you expressed your displeasure with him?

Speaker 5 (09:29):
We are in the beginning stages. We're kind of taking
a break right now.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, I hear you. So, Yeah, I know, I don't
know how to tell you to fix it. If it's
all installed, you know, you could see how far it's
gonna last. I don't. I don't know. I'd certainly get
the parts that I can see, you know, the end
cuts that maybe could still be painted and sealed and

(09:59):
then where the effacia is a butt, you know, making
sure you get that, you know, I don't know about
the putty. I don't know what kind of putty you use.
Maybe it is wood putty, maybe it's not a POxy putty.
But i'd use you know, I'd probably use like a
crially siliconized calking, which is paintable, it's flexible, it's not

(10:20):
going to crack. That would seal that really good. I
don't know if water will be able to get to
the backside of it. You know, water can get anywhere.
It's gonna take a path at least resistance. If there's
an opportunity, water will get there. And if it's unsealed,
that would can be vulnerable. And you know that, and

(10:42):
I know that, and you know again, just trying to
keep that water away from those areas is going to
be the key to you know. I mean, it's possible
you could keep it sealed long enough where we live
a normal life, but it will be challenged.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
One of the challenges is that, well, it's foggy right now.
It's foggy basically every day and here here in Pedaloma, yep,
and it's just a wet environment, right, right, and this
wood is not the ceedar that is. I've come to
understand the industry standard, right.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And even redwood does a good job there too, redwood
ceedar uh, not prying for and not unpainted and probably
not probably more of a calking too. So there's there's
several things, and uh, you know, pulling that whole thing
off would be ideal and then just try and if

(11:40):
that's not going to happen, you know, trying to keep
it as sealed as you can to prevent the water
from causing the rock is the next best choice.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Right, Yeah, it's actually a spruce for not a pine.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okayf right.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
I've become an expert on.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wood, so I bet so. So that's pretty much the
only you can take a miracle.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
I got You can't think of a compromise I can
work out with the contractor, well it would beat my household.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Well, the only thing is kind of what I said.
The compromise would be to get as many joints clocked
in as water tight as you can with the clocking,
the silk and ized calking. But there's no guarantees on that.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
I got you, Thank you. I listened to your show
all the time. Yeah, you're the only only show I've
ever called into.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
You got a lot of great advice.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Thank you. I appreciate that less Thank you call anytime.
Thank you? All right again, it's eight hundred and eight
two three eight two five five. I don't know do
you have advice for him? I think once it's done
is done, we can try and seal it up the
best we can. All right. I'll be listening for that,
and also your questions about your home. You're at home

(12:59):
with Gary Sullivan.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
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Speaker 1 (15:54):
All right, John, let's get back at it. What do
you say. We're twenty three minutes after the top of
the hour. By the way, if you missed our conversation
with Peter Dish and the slip Resistant Seiler, check it out.
It's on the iHeart app and it's a podcast. Say
what Denny, he got all joked up?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Should be available right now?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
All right? Very good? Yes, all right? Uh. Our phone
number if you'd like to join us, it's eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five lines open, Tom, welcome.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Hey, good afternoon, Yeah, almost afternoon almost. Uh. The gentleman
that called in about his gutters, yep, dripping back behind
I think that's whether the install gutters. Yeah, I used
to install gutters. And when he said he was screwing
the back of his gutter into the house, sounded to

(16:50):
me like that gutter is not up underneath the drip edge.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's what it sounds to me too.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
The gutters.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I was talking about the.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Good gutter's not in, not installed.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Right, Okay, Yeah, I'm trying to think back on that
conversation too. I think he had the Yes, he had
the company out twice for two other issues. Yes, so,
and he had the company coming out for the third
time too. I asked a lot of questions because I
was having difficulty visualizing what he was telling me. But

(17:24):
I missed the part about screwing it back into the house.
But I think you're exactly right. I don't. I don't
think you know that the water is the shingle is.
It's not putting the water in the gutter. It's shortfalling
in coming around and going behind the gun.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Between the drip, between the drip edge and the gutter.
The only way you can do that is just that
gutter's not up underneath the drip edge.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yep, I agree with you. I think that is the issue.
Hopefully they'll take care of him and install it correctly,
because you know, he had uh two other issues at
least at least a company responding. I always try to
emphasize that he's you know, sometimes the employee isn't doing
it right and the person that owns the company wants

(18:08):
it done right, and uh so they're they're they're tracking
back and hopefully that's what they find because obviously that
can be.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Corrected exactly anyway, I just wanted to point that out.
I didn't know if you caught it or not.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well I didn't say it. I didn't say it, but
I was darking about That's where I was too, that
it was, you know, it just wasn't up underneath there,
and that flashing isn't doing it. Nothing's doing any good.
It's just going right behind the gutter. So hey, appreciate it, Tom,
thank you very much for the call. Take care all right,
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(18:44):
That number is eight hundred eighty two three eight two
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another thing too, If you find that going on in
your house and you don't have new gutters, you got
older gutters. Uh, what can happen some times, depending on
how severe it is. I was talking about the old
nail and Farrell's going through the gutters and not the brackets.

(19:07):
If it's a nail and farrel and it is underneath
the shingles, if you got enough tilt or enough wobble
in that nail where the hole has become bigger than
the nail itself, you can get enough tilt to get
water behind there too. So a lot of times you're
replacing that nail and repositioning the gutter with a gutter screw,

(19:30):
and I'm talking at an eight inch gutter screw can
solve that also, But I think his problem was total installation.
We'll continue with your calls. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.

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Speaker 1 (22:35):
So talking a little home improvement. Thanks for joining me.
If you have a question, feel free to join us.
It's eight under eight two three eight two five five
And I was talking about yesterday, I believe talking about
larger projects, and how fall is such a great time.

(22:57):
I've really been working this year about talk talking about
looking forward into projects, especially if you're going to employ
somebody like redo your bath, redo your kitchen, build a deck,
something like that, that things just don't happen, you know,
maybe to our liking as fast as they should, mainly

(23:21):
because we're calling about a week before we think they
should start. So one of the things I was looking
forward to on this time of year is what do
people really start thinking about in the fall. And I'm
talking like October, the end of October November, start thinking

(23:42):
about maybe finding some space in their home, maybe taking
their basement and turning it into a family room, maybe
taking that bathroom and give it a whole facelift, maybe
the kitchen. And you can go pretty far intoing those projects.

(24:05):
They ripping everything out, or you can do little tidbits
and just kind of spruce it up a little bit.
And one of those things when I was looking forward
would be, you know, you got holidays coming, you know,
five six months, and if you're thinking about a project
or even you know, again I call it a half project.
You know, you're not going to redo the whole thing,

(24:25):
but maybe you'll do countertops for me, you do chemnetry,
But what other things would you do in a bathroom makeover?
If you will? And maybe it's just a matter of
giving it some pop, giving it some zing, giving it
a personality. Maybe if tiling your entire bathrooms out of

(24:47):
the question, maybe just mixing and matching above and around
the bathtub or around the sink area again with some
vibrancy and col that might be an option. Maybe given
the cabinets a little bit of repair, maybe restaining, maybe painting,

(25:09):
maybe refacing them or replacing them all together. But those
projects that we start looking forward to about doing, first,
you have to decide what you want to do, right,
So you always start with the dream, what you wanted

(25:31):
to really look like, and then the next step is finances,
and then the next step is execution. Can we do
that or should we scale it back? So I just
talk about cabentry, restaining, that's a lot of work, not
as much money, a lot of work. Painting not as

(25:53):
much work as staining, not as much money. Refacing them
probably meeting you halfway towards replacing them. So asking those
questions another thing that I've mentioned many times in redoing
any room. It is amazing to me what a good

(26:14):
code of paint and swapping out old light fixtures for
newer ones and creating a softer light makes a big,
big difference. And I don't care what room it would be,
whether it's a family room, a bathroom, or a kitchen. Also,
when we were talking about bathrooms, think about if you

(26:35):
just changed the backsplash, a little bit, new code of paint,
maybe some light fixtures, maybe painting the cadmetry. How about
changing out the faucets And have you looked at faucets.
I don't think anything dates a bathroom more than basic
nineteen seventy chrome faucets. And there's a bunch of them

(26:59):
out there. And now there's faucets that are crazy expensive,
but there's some that aren't chrome faucets and add quite
an appeal and quite a look in a bathroom. So
that might be something. Also different wall treatments. We get
a lot of questions about that old plaster walls that's

(27:21):
been patched, has been taped. Can you see all that?
Take a look at wall coverings and it's not wallpaper,
it's wall coverings, And you can go and hide all
the cracks and patches and again will allow that bathroom

(27:42):
to look slightly remodeled. It won't look baited, so again
colorful tie chemnitry. You know when I give you the
options there light fixtures, just perusing through a lighting store
will give you all kinds of ideas. Light fixtures same

(28:04):
give you or plumbing fixtures same give you all kinds
of ideas. And then the big box stores you can
take a look at some of the wall treatments. But
there's a lot of options out there that can really
change the look of that bathroom. All right, now, let's
go to Cheryl. Cheryl, welcome, Hey, good morning, Gary morning.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
My current project is redoing a bedroom. The house is
almost one hundred years old. I've lived here fifty five
years and in this bedroom, I'm painting, doing the light
fixtures and everything you suggested. As far as I know,

(28:45):
there's been waal toall carpeting as long as I've lived here,
and probably before that. The carpeting I've had taken up.
The tax strip is up, but I'm left with kind
of a gummy.

Speaker 9 (29:03):
Surface.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
I'm trying to figure out how what to do. Short
of standing and refinishing that hardwood oak floor, what thoughts.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So, well, if you're not going to resurface the the
options are cleaning and maybe, if possible, uh, recoading with
a varnish or your thane unless they had been waxed.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
And that I don't know, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right that's the problem.

Speaker 8 (29:45):
So yeah, Well, as.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Far as mineral spirits can give you a little bit
of that answer, or even a denatured alcohol, they've been
your thane. You take a denatured alcohol and you rub it,
you know, you really give it some elbow grease and
rub it. If it should shine or create clean and

(30:09):
shine a solvent based clear coating the clear sealer. If
it's waxed, it'll probably get gummy.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Okay. Well, as far as the first path of cleaning,
what product would you use?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, so tell me what we're trying to get off.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
Well that I don't know. I would say a combination
of one hundred or fifty years of grime and it's
just a little bit gummy. The guy that took the
carpet up for me scraped any of the leftover padding
that was stuck to the w Yeah, but I feel

(30:56):
like I need to go over it with something that
kind to see if I can cut that gumm.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, I guess I would probably try. I was talking
about the Jaws hardwood floor cleaner. I think that's more
of a a cleaner for dirt, you know. I think
if I was going to try to remove some, there
could have been a chemical reaction between the floor pad

(31:26):
and the protectant that was on the floor. There's a
floor cleaner made by Bona bo Na.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
Yeah, I've seen the Bonus.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, I think that's probably what I would use.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
They have a variety of things. Just a cleaner.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Well, that's what you're going to want to start with.
I mean, that's what you talked about is the Bonom
does make several different products, but before you use any
of them, we're going to have to get it cleaned,
cleaning those and then use your Bona restoration product. It's
it's a little it's a mild sealer, but if you

(32:08):
got it cleaned, I think one of the things I
would look at doing is at that point maybe using
like a four hundred grid wet dry sandpaper or even
a and kind of scratch and put another coat of

(32:29):
varnish on there. Okay, but they do have a restoration.
Bona does have a restoration product. It's not a eurothane,
but you can clean it and then use the restoration
product to give it a little bit of sheen if
you want a little more heavy duty. It's it's just
going to depend on where you get. Because I've been

(32:51):
through this with hardwood floors. You you know you got
to start with cleaning, no matter what whether you end
up with.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
When you say cleaning, talked about the dnatured alcohol. Would
would you use that to clean?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
No? I would use the bon of cleaner, the bone
of cleaner. Yeah, and you're gonna have to use that first,
and then I'm serious. From cleaning it, you could end
up getting to a point where you're just gonna have
to resand and stain and coat. I mean, I don't
know where you're gonna end up, but you're going to

(33:26):
have to start with a cleaner. Another thing. And I
don't know if you plan on doing all that work yourself,
but getting a professional floor refinisher in there and get
their opinion of how they would tackle it might give
you some answers of how you should tackle it. They
may come in and look and say, listen, you can

(33:46):
scrub all you want, but you're gonna end up finishing
this floor. I've had that happen, and then you can
make a decision whether you want to do that. You
want to have them do that fed other times where
they got you know, they have a sand light buffer
and they can clean it and then they can put
like a restore finish on there, like a bon of restore.

(34:09):
So that would be some professional eyes on it and
give you an opportunity to decide if that's a do
it yourself project or a professional project.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yep, yep, yep. Okay hardly. I just don't know even
where to start as far as cleaning it up again.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
To start the project, you're going to have to clean
it first, And what I would do is go over
take a look at some of the bon Of cleaners.
You can go to their website. They got videos, and
that's going to That would be step one. That's where
I would start. I don't know if it's going to
clean that up. I don't know. You may have to

(34:50):
lightly sand until you try it, and I can't see
it until you either try it or you get a
professional look at it, You're not going to know ea.
So step one, get some Bona cleaner and see what
it does. See if it cleans it up, see if
it becomes not sticky. That's where i'd start. Cheryl, thank

(35:11):
you much for the call. Mike. You'll be up next.
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Thank you?

Speaker 9 (38:40):
I just got actually two quesses for you. I know
you're talking about that surer room. I think it's an
emerald trim paint. Is that better than the super paint?
The white paint?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah? So what are you painting?

Speaker 9 (38:55):
Trim and doors.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Trim and doors, Well sure probably you know, I'm just
using personal experience. So that's probably the best trimming enamel
I have used in years. And that is the yourth
the Sherman Williams Emerald euthane trimmy nomel.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Can I go over?

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Can I go over? What's already on the doors?

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Now?

Speaker 9 (39:20):
It's just builder grade you know, Latex or whatever they used.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, well, yes, a couple of things. Preparation is always
the key. So do you know if that was a
in the enamel or or was it just wall pain
or what is on there?

Speaker 9 (39:40):
It's a semi gloss looks just like you know, like latex.
They obviously sprayed the doors, they didn't roll them. You know, Well,
if I can go straight straight over that, but.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, you can do the old test, and it's rubbing
alcohol and a cotton cloth. And if it's an oil
bas enamel, it will it'll shine. If it's a Latex
it'll start getting gummy. But with the eu thane trimming enamel,

(40:14):
it's probably not gonna matter. The euthane trimming amel is
is not a solvent base, but it's your ethane enhanced.
The the reason I like this, I'll tell you why.
I mean, there's a ton of latex and acrylic late
tax enamels which do fine. Okay, I'm not gonna knock

(40:35):
them there. They do fine. This your thane trimmingen nomo
is it's the next step and the last step on
the ladder. I mean, it's probably it's probably one hundred
bucks a gallon, but it flows like an old solvent

(40:56):
oil based enamel. It's hardly an old solvent basting amel.
It doesn't dry super fast like some of the ACRYLICI amos.
It takes about two hours for it to dry, so
it's not a twenty four hour. But it's just got

(41:16):
some features that are top shelf. So it depends what
you want. I'm not trying to talk aim By into it.
When people ask me what they should do, that's usually
what I'll recommend. And that's the reasons why I recommend them.
You're just gonna get literally a perfect finish.

Speaker 9 (41:38):
Yes sir. Then one other course I had. They do
sell a Cheryl Williams paint at the at the Big
Blue Store and it says it's trim. But from my understanding,
someone stated that the paint that they sell at loas
is not the same paint you would physically get from
a Cheryl Williams store because I maybe they have different

(42:02):
manufacturer procedures for that take.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well, yeah, that's the big thing with all It's not
just Lows, it's it's the big thing with all the
box stores. They'll make agreements with different companies and maybe
they'll have their they're not going to have their you're
a thane trimming nemo in the store because a customer
at Low's is probably not looking for the perfect hundred

(42:27):
dollars trimming nemo, right, They're looking for a good trim,
and so they'll go to kind of the they'll put
a you know, a Sherman Williams or maybe a Low's
label on it or another label on it, and it'll
be and I'm not saying this to be mean, they'll
go to a medium grade of it. There's nothing wrong

(42:48):
with it. I mean, it'll do the job, but it's
it's not the one I'm talking about, and it doesn't
have to be. I mean, if if you want to
good water based trimmy enamel, Sherman Williams has those at
half the price, and so does Low's. You know, it's

(43:08):
just you know, there's there's benefits to the other ones,
and I gave you what they are in terms of hardness,
the flow, drying time. Some of those acrylics, it may
or may not be a big deal for you. Some
of them drive pretty quickly, and so you have a
tendency maybe to have a few more brush marks than

(43:33):
you would have, you know, if you're a perfectionist. And
I'm not saying in a negative way, it's just that's
the look you're gonna get.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
Yes, I understood. Well, I appreciate your info and enjoy
the rest of your day, sir.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
All right, very good, Thank you, take care, bye bye,
and just just kind of build on that a little bit.
The bears paints at home depot, it's good paint. There's
nothing wrong with that pain. The loads if it's a
Sherman william Zuchy, I think they have the HGTV pain
in there. That's a Shirm Williams product. It's not bad pain,

(44:12):
it's good pain. The pain I was talking about the Emerald,
your Thane trim Neil, that is, in my opinion, the
best trimmingama you're gonna buy anywhere. And if I feel
that way, I'll talk about it. I'm not denouncing the
other ones. I'm just saying that's the top shelf point.
All right, Danny boy, another weekend. Thank you very much

(44:33):
for all your efforts. I certainly appreciate it. Yes, certain,
good Lord Willing. We'll be back next weekend for more
at Home with carry Summons.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
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