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eight two three A two five five. We're talking about
your home projects and Susan welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Hi, Hello, Hello, I have some I'll tell you about
my chickmunk infestation. A few years ago. I started feeding birds.
I had quite a few bird feeders, and they were
the nights ones with a you know, squirrel proof and
this and that. And I started noticing more and more
chickmunk in the last couple of years. And then my
(02:02):
neighbor came down because they have a lot of wildlife
in their backyard, they were getting chickmunk problems too, and
he suggested taking down the bird feeders, or just have
a minimal one in my yard small and I did,
and those chick monks are gone. I really one chickmunk.
I'd never hear them chirping. And the last straw was
(02:25):
I went to move a shrub that was near the
bird feeder, and a chickmunk jumped out, So I went
to the other side to dig it out from the
other side, and like five or six of them jumped
out because they had burrowed under the roots of the shrub.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And I said, okay, that's it for the birds.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
They can find their own food. And then there was
a neighborhood cat coming over here all the time, sitting
on a porch waiting to get chickpunk, but just getting
rid of that bird.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Sure the fruit source and so many times that's a
great tip. And I've never thought that. Nobody's ever said
anything to me either, And that is a great tip.
And many times when it comes to animals and pests
and bugs and stuff, always go like change the environment,
change the environment. You changed the environment, brought the issue,
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and you changed it back and you got rid of
the issue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was so thankful to this man. And they have
lush yard. They they're older people. It's always been their hobby.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And there's a.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Wetlands like behind our yards. It's a school. I live
in Westwood, so our yards are small. And he said
he noticed like a rat one or two right a carcass.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Near their feeder.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So he came back down to alert me if you're
having problems with this chickmunks might want to get rid
of the very good.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
If you're in the country.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know what it would help.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But well, you know, all all animals are after water
and food, period. Exactly a good thinking. I appreciate that tip, Susan,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh sure, I listened all the time, but I thought,
oh I got a call on this one.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I appreciate that's a great time. Thank you much. All right,
bye bye, and again our number is eight hundred and
eight two three eight two five five couple lines open,
Go ahead and grab them and let's go to Dean.
Dean welcome.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Hi, Gary, I love your show.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
He're welcome.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I have a a house that was built in the
mid fifties and it still has the original casement steel
steel casement windows on it. And I presume if a
previous owner had put the.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Storm windows over those, right.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
And when they did that, there's there's a calling like
coop call over the brick brickwork. Yeah, And I was
wondering ifew dow up or I could direct and the
product to remove that cocking.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, I'll tell you if it's some of the irision.
If it's cocking that's forty years old. They had a
a cocking back then. It was a commercial cocking, and
it was an oil based cocking. And that stuff as
hard as the brick. I mean, it's hard. So I
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guess I don't have something to just spray it on
and it goes away, but you know, mechanically removing it
maybe so that that's probably what it is. Probably commercial
putty and that stuff is nasty stuff.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Yeah, I kind of think you're right on that because
there's as old as that coking is, there's no cracks
in it or any right.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Uh, it's probably as strong as the brick. I'm serious
about that. It wasn't very flexible, but it wasn't going anywhere.
A couple thoughts. One is there is cock remover, which
is a large claim to fame because it doesn't really
move it or remove it. It does soften some of
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your modern day cockings like silicone and acrylic silicon iceed cocking.
I personally don't think it'll touch that commercial putty. I
just want to it is out there. You might want
to read the label on it. I haven't. I've used
it on silicone. It does a decent job of softening
and allows you to get it off, but I think
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it's I think I don't think it's going to touch
the commercial but something to check. Okay. Then the next
thing is you know a uh what would you call it?
Almost like grinding it off? Uh maybe even with a
dremmel tool and a little grinding stone. That would probably
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be I know it sounds crazy, but that would probably
be one of the better ways to remove it, because
if you use a coal chisel, you're gonna You're gonna
chip into that brick, so I wouldn't use that. It's
almost got to be you almost gotta hide it or
you gotta grind it off. So I talked about how
to grind it. You can get grinding stones for a drill.
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You can get grinding stones on a drumwell tool or
a multi purpose tool, and that's probably gonna be the
best way to remove it. As far as this is
gonna be a little eccentric, but it's got a place,
and that is hiding it, I said. And what I
mean by that is if you can get a little
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piece of brick, maybe down at the bottom of the foundation, okay,
and take it to the paint store of the hardware
store and let them color shoot that and get a
quart of paint that matches that brick, and get an
artist brush and just go over that calking m hm.
(08:02):
And I've seen that done and does pretty good job.
I mean, you can see the texture, you can tell
it's calking, but it doesn't stand out like it like
it does now, right, right, So a couple things to explore. Obviously,
grinding will always get you there. It's you know, labor intensive,
but it will grind it off. That's the only way
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you'll get it off as far as I know.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And maybe a combination of both of those things you suggested.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, that might be the answer. Grind it down
as smooth as you can and then try and touch
it up. But I've seen people do that with even
like old fashioned steel white siding when it was designed
to chalk and they couldn't get that stain off. I've
seen people paint the brick. There was a guy on
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the west side of town that used to match it,
and he did it as a little side job. He
would go around and touch up where the whitewash was
on brick. And that crylic really acrylic paints really stick
well to brick. So just an idea.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Okay, well, I truly appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
All right, very good Nan, Thank you much for the call.
I appreciate all right. Yeah, I know it's that old
commercial putty. I remember the very first house I bought
steel casement windows. That was that was the norm after,
you know, in the late forties and fifties when they
were building homes, single Paine steel casement, cocked in commercial
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putty and that stuff. Even the glazing compound which is
now acrylic for fixing windows. And again we don't have
many of those windows even left, but they're out there.
But before the acrylics they hit them in it was
called commercial putty and that stuff. When I bought my
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first house, I had a couple of broken windows in
the house when we bought it. And trying to get
that old glazing compound that come glazing. Ey, this is
virtually impossible. I mean it was chisel. It was work
all right, Uh, Kent and Tim, you folks will be
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free to join us as we're chatting about your home
and your home projects. Kent, Welcome, Good morning morning.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
The men called with the wasps in his yard. I
had the same predicament, yes, sir, and a couple of
things he might want to try the both retably inexpensive
and it worked for me anyway. Now, he said he
had yellow jacket.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, he said yellow jackets and he said was so
I wasn't really sure what he had.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Most of the ones that I mean, a yellow jacket
will yield their nests in the ground, right, but also
will a black was wass. I think folks around here
call them mud daubers. That's what I had. Anyway, if
you go early in the morning or you know, when
they're not acting right, and I just doneloaded in an
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entire can of raid wasp and hornet killer and they've
never come back.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, there's also and I always get a little a
little nervous about, you know, different types of chemicals. But
I believe back in the day you could even use
seven dust and blow it in there. But I didn't
want to say that. Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, another I had It doesn't involve chemicals. It doesn't
work fast, but it does work. Yeah, and that's vinegar.
They do not like vinegar.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, so what did you have? Did you have the
did you have the did you have the wasp?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You say the black wasps nuddobbers And also the only
drawback with the vinegar is you want to be real
careful because it will kill your grass. Yeah, but dreams
good and you get it down there like I have
bermuda grass. If they ever come back quick regardless, but
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it either on. Both methods have worked for me.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Do you ever see those cicada killers I was talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
No, I'm not familiar with what that is.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So it's if you look at your index finger, it's
about half the size of your index figure. And what
they'll do is they they're ground burrows too, and they
may have a more formal name. I've just always known
them as cicada killers. They will actually they you know,
burrow on the ground and make their nest and they're
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called cicada killers because they'll come out of that hole.
They'll have their larvae down in that hole, and they'll
kill a cicada and drag it in the hole and
that'll be the food supply when they mature and they're
big and their threat. But I don't know if that Yeah,
(16:04):
so I don't. I'm not really sure what he had.
But yeah, I like your tips. I appreciate it. Okay,
have a good day, you do the same things, all right,
Let's go to Tim. Tim. Welcome, Hey Gary, how you
doing today. I'm hanging in there, thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Uh got some problem with ants, all right? And not
the ants like on the old Geico commercial, the little
creepy Crawley ants. It just seems like this overrun with
them this year.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah. Yeah, they've been bad. So you're talking like the
sweet ants of the sidewalk ants or are you talking
to real big carpenter.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Ants, small little time.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, they've been hard to you know, take care of
this year because of the rain and then we've had
extreme temperatures. It's been hot, it's been hold and their
diets change, and there are some and you know, you
can tell me what kind of repellence you were using.
(17:10):
There's some what do you call it liquids that we
use to have the antake back to the colonnen and
kill the queen because that's how you eliminate them. And
some of those actually have more protein or just carbohydrate,
and their diets change depending on the weather. There's some
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that have both, so if you're using those type of products.
The only one I really know that have both is
the Rescue brand. And when they come, you know, they
go from outside they go inside. They're looking for only
one thing. They're looking for water, and they're looking for food.
And when you put these traps out or that food source,
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you'll see more ants than you have now for about
three days. And after about three days the population will
drop dramatically and eventually you'll get them under control. You'll
you'll they'll take it back to the queen and when
the queen dies, they kind of start to process over again.
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But that's a good way of elimitating. That depends on
how big the colony is. There's also powder that you
create a barrier around the exterior of the house. But
if you do both, there's a good chance you'll get
them under control. Sometimes a colony is so big, you know,
you end up half them. Get to a pest control
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company out has better products that we can buy, but
I try to rescue and traps.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Okay, the power you were speaking of, is that a
rescue brand as well?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Or No, that would be more like a perimeter dusting. Okay,
there's all kinds of brands out there, but it's for
answers for bugs period. It's just a it's a barrier
dusting that you'd reapply monthly.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Okay, okay, rescue. Is that a store item.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Or is that a yeah? I know Ace has it.
I've seen it in lows. You can get it online,
but uh for sure you can get it at a storefront.
All right, thank you much, I certainly appreciate. We'll take
a little break and when we come back, we got
Sam and John and Neil and Ron. If you'd like
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It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
and let's go to Sam Sam. Welcome, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
See I'm in northern Nevada. I'm listening to you guys.
Got a brother Nevada, uh huh. And I'm not very
familiar with bricks, and I've painted brick before. But I'm
by the house nineteen twelve and has the original chimney
and I want to keep it. But some of the
ground has obviously deteriorated, you know. And I'm very familiar
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with tilesetter. So you regrout something. There's a lot of
times that grout's going to pop.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Out right right right, So yeah, but a good point.
Yeah done, good point. So, yeah, you know, the way
our homes are constructed, a lot of it just goes
back to what the raw materials are in the area
we're building a home, you know, is it would is
a brick because we have a lot of clay, you know,
So it varies. And understand that now for brick, when
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the mortar is cracked or missing repairing, that's called tuck pointing,
and brick and concrete and growling doesn't like to stick
to itself, so you add an additive it's a bonding
agent to allow it to grip onto it. The mortar
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is you can use like a cement mix or a
mortar mix and a bonding agent with that and clean
out the crevice, remove the crumbling grouter mortar, and then
wet the brick so it doesn't suck all the moisture
out of the patch itself. And you're basically putting that
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in with a margin trial and smoothing it out. There's
there's a joint raker half inch three quarter to smooth
it out. That's a quick one oh one on you
know the mortar patch. But yeah, you need a bonding
agent in it for sure, and you you know, you
need to wet the brick also so it doesn't pull
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that moisture out of the patch itself.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Would you apply the bonding motor because I'm gonna paint ricks?
Would I just get swappy with the bonding agent and
just stealing the cravice and not worry about what I'm
gonna go to the brick because I'm gonna paint everything?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Or is that? Well? You would mix the bonding agent
in with the so you you know, if you get
like regular mortar mix, all right, at least you don't
have to worry about the color. That's the hardest part
of the job. Sam is the same with growding, right
to get that same look, that same color, it's really
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really hard. And that's where a really good brick mason
can really help people out. In your case, you're gonna
paint it, so who cares? Uh put the bonding when
you're mixing the powdered mortar mix with the water you
would use. I think it's about a court to a
bag of mortar mix of bonding and you just mix
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it all up into the same solution, into the mortar, uh,
and then ready to apply and yeah it may you
know you can get Yeah, you can be a lotpies
you want. I guess you gotta paint it anyway, but
you know, you may, you may. You don't need a
joint breaker. Maybe you just need a your finger. Yeah,
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you want to get it as smooth as you can.
But yeah, you don't have to worry about the color.
That's probably the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
So when it comes to grout, like there is like
cement grout for like lifting grout. And then you have
your type S motor mix, which everybody does for the
stone around here, right, but you now there's motor mix itself.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, so you can make you you can make your own.
And in some cases, if you told me that house
was one hundred and fifty years old, they probably made
the brick on site. We'd be talking about using a
you know, a designated type of mortar and making your
own with Portland cement and stuff. But you know, if
you got to you know, if you got and uh,
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I don't know how many bricks you got missing mortar joints,
but I would get probably a bag of mortar mix
which was a sixty seventy eighty pound bag mixed with
water at a bonder. You probably got more mortar mix
than you'll ever need.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yep, okay, I'm just worried about a long crim of
that and pop it out after it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You know, Well, the bonding agent's the key, and not joking.
Wetting the crevice and getting that brick to absorbs some
of the moisture is also the key. So where people
getting problems in doing the tuck pointing is more because
they didn't know about having a bonding agent. Didn't know
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that was necessary. And number two, they didn't pay attention
to hydrating the brick, so the brick pulls the moisture out,
it doesn't create a good bond. You do both those things,
I think you'll be smooth sailing.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Perfect. I appreciated, boss.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
All right, thank you, take care, Thank you all right.
The number to join us is eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five and Neil welcome.
Speaker 10 (28:11):
Hello, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You you're quite welcome.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
I've got a put it's about thirty five years old.
It's got aluminum siding on a good bit of it,
and there's one side of the house that never is exposed.
To sunshine, and I've got mold that grows there. You
know all the time. I have pressure washed it before
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and it comes off.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Is there.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
You talked about a product called Wet we Forget. Do
you know if that does anything to help keep the
mold from coming back?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yes, but it is outdoors and mother nature always wins.
But there's a big difference in cleaning with a pressure
washer and using that product. And that is when you
use the Wet and Forget and you spray it on.
The First thing is it's not instant gratification. It takes
like six weeks for the sun and the rain to
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work with it. But it's a total kill, so it does.
It takes longer for it to regrow. Now it's not
like five years. It's like you get an extra year. Okay,
you clean it this year. Next year, you're not going
to have it the following year. You'll start seeing some shadowing.
(29:33):
Best way to use that product, because it's really easy,
is just spray that siding down every year. It's a
it's a bottle that connects to a hose. It does
about twenty five I think it's twenty five hundred square feet,
So you know in thirty five bucks or something. You
just spray the whole house down and and you won't
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see molder, fungus or mildew or you know, in the future.
So yeah, it does have a residual bill up though.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yes, it just takes a little while.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It does take a little while, so it's not instant.
It's not like a pressure washer. But then a pressure
washer isn't really totally killing it. I mean you're getting
off the stain. Sometimes if you have vinyl sighting, I've
seen people probably not do it properly and shooting it
up with a pressure washer a too steep of an eyeword,
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flipping the sighting off. So you don't have that to
worry about. But you do have to be patient because
I'm weak. Four. You may say that Gary Selvin told
me to use this, and he's crazy, it didn't work,
and then you know, two weeks later you walk out.
Believe me, when people come to me with products, I'm like,
you do what with this product? You spray it and
then you don't do anything. And so I always I
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try really hard to always use everything I ever talk about.
Of course, you can't use everything, but I remember that
one vividly because I'm thinking there's there's no way this
is going to work. And I was the same person
at week five, Hundle and this stuff is not gonna work.
And it works.
Speaker 10 (31:12):
It sounds to me like it doesn't work. But yeah,
talking to the voice of experience, do it on a.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, everything's always subject to how people do it too,
and you can do it when it's hot out, but
do it early morning or do it later in the afternoon.
You want to minimize the evaporation, so it's kind of
a clear, sticky stuff. You can't even tell any things
on there. I mean, you're just gonna spray this stuff
on willy nilly, and you know it's gonna dry and
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you can't see it. And then Garry said, son and rain. Okay,
we had sun and rain. Nothing's happening though, But if
you can do it, minimize the evaporation so it doesn't
have to be cool. But you shouldn't have sun beaten
on that siding when you spray it.
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Speaker 11 (35:27):
Hi Gary, How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Doing fine?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Appreciate you taking a call you bet hey?
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Now what I am going to attempt to paint the
garage floor of the speckled paint set up. I wastly
not sure if I'm going to do the epoxy or
the polyuria. Kids. I'm really looking at some of the kids.
But all I need to do is get the floor
in good shape first, right, I have a couple of
(35:53):
little patches I need to make. I'm big. But then
I had multiple professionals come out and estimate it.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
And that's why I watch myself.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
They look to me like could be the imitation expansion joints.
How they cut your garage in the floor.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Pieces right right?
Speaker 11 (36:12):
And these are these are solid? I mean there's concrete
in the bottom of them. It might be a couple
of little hairline cracked, but they don't seem like real
expansion joints and so everyone. I have some friends who
have had this done professionally and they fill those in
to make it once appear to be one smooth surface.
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And that's a fair amount of patch and like stuff.
On my research, I've been seeing like two parts of
POxy h like a rostolium makes one because it's the
kits I've been looking at to fill in. But it's
got to be I have to be able to grind
it down also because I do have to grind this
because of some staining and stuff that they said. The
(36:55):
acid won't the acid watch won't take off like old
paint and duff on the surface.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right. You got to get the bile there.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Correct correct.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
So what I'm wondering is there is that what I
need to do, just take a whole bunch of that
two part of apocha and trow it in.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Or is there a tube type concrete.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
I know there's two type concretes, but it's the grind ability.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That I'm in.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
These expansion joints help me out here are they? Is
it like a little trow little groove or is it
like salt.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
Cut or what it looks like more like a trowel
because like if I put my finger in it and
I'm going right now, it's solid concrete at the base
bottom of like like there's some little hairline cracks. There's
no packing or anything in them.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So the purpose of that, just before we get into film,
the purpose of that is to make that the weakest
point of the floor, so when there is movement that
it will crack there. Right, Okay, so when we fill it,
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it probably will still crack there. But the benefit, and
that's what you're asking me, I think, is the benefit
will be the whole thing will be smooth.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Correct, Okay?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Is it important that the whole thing is smooth?
Speaker 11 (38:34):
Not necessarily I've just seen syesthetically the garage I've seen. Yeah,
you're telling me that's going to be a big mistake
as well.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm so. So here's my I'm you know if you
have Yeah, the people that are telling you to do
that is that the people that you had quote you
about it, you know about having it, because they may
have things that we don't have.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
Okay, And that's that's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, And that's what I'm worried about too.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
So here here's here's my uh, philosophy on it. Okay,
So we got a little groove that is trialed in
to make it the weakest part of the slab. So
if it cracks, it's gonna crack. Now we're gonna be
upfront and we're going to take a filler and we're
going to cover that up for we can't see those
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grooves and so when it cracks, it's going to crack
there and we're still going to see it. Or we
have concrete to concrete, is it going to delaminate and
get loose in where I'm going to have maintenance there?
That's so that's my concern. So it's your concern too,
(39:51):
because you said what do I use in there? There
is I would say the one thing. I would look
at it as a non cementatious product, so we don't
have to worry about concrete not bonding to concrete. There
is a product called rock Patch. I'm gonna get you
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to this website and I want you to look at
some of their products too, and they are a sponsor,
but I found them long before they were. It's good stuff.
So it's DICEE DAI cch codings dot com all right,
and they have this rock patch. Rock Patch is a
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non cementationous so we don't have to worry about issues
with it bonding. It is an acrylic high resin polymer
that could fill that all right, So I feel good
about that, all right, So I know I keep saying,
all right, it will add good bonding to that. So
(41:04):
I think that's very important. If you've got a an
epoxy or a urea that would be filling out, it
would probably be equally as good. I don't know, but
I know about this rock patch and that would be
that'd be a good product to use there. As far
as the epoxy, there's a lot of there's a lot
(41:26):
of garbage on the market, so be careful. You're going
to get what you pay for. On that same website,
this guy's like he always call him, he's like the
mad scientists of concrete cover ups. He's got a number
of products. First of all, he does have an industrial
(41:48):
epoxy and emphasis on the word industrial, and it's probably
two or three times more expensive than what you're looking at,
but it is to do it yourself product. It has flakes,
so that's fine. A lot of the epoxy garage floors.
You're can buying the paint stores in the big box stores.
(42:09):
I'm telling you a figure somewhere between four and six years.
That's been my experience. I'm not here knocking them. I'm
just saying that's to be the expectations on this one.
I'm thinking probably twelve to fifteen years. So that's that's
one option. They also have. They got a couple of them.
(42:33):
One of them is called Spreadstone, one is called roller rock,
and one is called Torazo. You can actually make it
look like terreso tile if you wanted to. They've got
the video. They explain it very well. I would take
a look at the rock patch and any of those
(42:53):
four coatings that I just mentioned, and see what you think,
See what you thing. Keep doing your due diligence, and
your poly areas are are are your long term ones
versus an epoxy. But preparation is always the key, So
(43:14):
don't cheat. Don't cheat on that preparation. That's what's going
to make it successful.
Speaker 11 (43:20):
Also, all right, great, all right, okay, well no, I
appreciate it just the one piece. But say I do
with the rock patch, and then they're they're telling me
to patch everything, then grind, So can I grind that
rock patch to make sure it's smooth.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
You know what, I've never ground. I don't know. I'd
have to read up on it. I don't know. It's
as hard as a rock. I can tell you that,
but I don't know about the grinding. I've done it
with a trial, I've done it with pot marks on
a driveway and it. You know, you can get it
super smooth then, so even if you were grinding, you
(44:04):
probably wouldn't disturb it that much. But I don't know
the answer to that question. So definitely check watch those
videos too. They're they're very educational. Thank you much for
the call. I certainly appreciate. They also have a slip
resistant seiler called track Safe that can go over that,
and again the roller rock is also slip resistant. So
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Speaker 2 (01:40):
Hi, Hello, Hello, I have some I'll tell you about
my chickmunk infestation. A few years ago. I started feeding birds.
I had quite a few bird feeders, and they were
the nights ones with a you know, squirrel proof and
this and that. And I started noticing more and more
chickmunk in the last couple of years. And then my
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neighbor came down because they have a lot of wildlife
in their backyard, they were getting chickmunk problems too, and
he suggested taking down the bird feeders, or just have
a minimal one in my yard small and I did,
and those chick monks are gone. I really one chickmunk.
I'd never hear them chirping. And the last straw was
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I went to move a shrub that was near the
bird feeder, and a chickmunk jumped out, So I went
to the other side to dig it out from the
other side, and like five or six of them jumped
out because they had burrowed under the roots of the shrub.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And I said, okay, that's it for the birds.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
They can find their own food. And then there was
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Sure the fruit source and so many times that's a
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and bugs and stuff, always go like change the environment,
change the environment. You changed the environment, brought the issue,
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and you changed it back and you got rid of
the issue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was so thankful to this man. And they have
lush yard. They they're older people. It's always been their hobby.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And there's a.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Wetlands like behind our yards. It's a school. I live
in Westwood, so our yards are small. And he said
he noticed like a rat one or two right a carcass.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Near their feeder.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So he came back down to alert me if you're
having problems with this chickmunks might want to get rid
of the very good.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
If you're in the country.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know what it would help.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But well, you know, all all animals are after water
and food, period. Exactly a good thinking. I appreciate that tip, Susan,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh sure, I listened all the time, but I thought,
oh I got a call on this one.
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I appreciate that's a great time. Thank you much. All right,
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Go ahead and grab them and let's go to Dean.
Dean welcome.
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Thank you.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
He're welcome.
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Speaker 6 (04:24):
I have a a house that was built in the
mid fifties and it still has the original casement steel
steel casement windows on it. And I presume if a
previous owner had put the.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Storm windows over those, right.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
And when they did that, there's there's a calling like
coop call over the brick brickwork. Yeah, And I was
wondering ifew dow up or I could direct and the
product to remove that cocking.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, I'll tell you if it's some of the irision.
If it's cocking that's forty years old. They had a
a cocking back then. It was a commercial cocking, and
it was an oil based cocking. And that stuff as
hard as the brick. I mean, it's hard. So I
(05:25):
guess I don't have something to just spray it on
and it goes away, but you know, mechanically removing it
maybe so that that's probably what it is. Probably commercial
putty and that stuff is nasty stuff.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Yeah, I kind of think you're right on that because
there's as old as that coking is, there's no cracks
in it or any right.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Uh, it's probably as strong as the brick. I'm serious
about that. It wasn't very flexible, but it wasn't going anywhere.
A couple thoughts. One is there is cock remover, which
is a large claim to fame because it doesn't really
move it or remove it. It does soften some of
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your modern day cockings like silicone and acrylic silicon iceed cocking.
I personally don't think it'll touch that commercial putty. I
just want to it is out there. You might want
to read the label on it. I haven't. I've used
it on silicone. It does a decent job of softening
and allows you to get it off, but I think
(06:34):
it's I think I don't think it's going to touch
the commercial but something to check. Okay. Then the next
thing is you know a uh what would you call it?
Almost like grinding it off? Uh maybe even with a
dremmel tool and a little grinding stone. That would probably
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be I know it sounds crazy, but that would probably
be one of the better ways to remove it, because
if you use a coal chisel, you're gonna You're gonna
chip into that brick, so I wouldn't use that. It's
almost got to be you almost gotta hide it or
you gotta grind it off. So I talked about how
to grind it. You can get grinding stones for a drill.
(07:18):
You can get grinding stones on a drumwell tool or
a multi purpose tool, and that's probably gonna be the
best way to remove it. As far as this is
gonna be a little eccentric, but it's got a place,
and that is hiding it, I said. And what I
mean by that is if you can get a little
(07:41):
piece of brick, maybe down at the bottom of the foundation, okay,
and take it to the paint store of the hardware
store and let them color shoot that and get a
quart of paint that matches that brick, and get an
artist brush and just go over that calking m hm.
(08:02):
And I've seen that done and does pretty good job.
I mean, you can see the texture, you can tell
it's calking, but it doesn't stand out like it like
it does now, right, right, So a couple things to explore. Obviously,
grinding will always get you there. It's you know, labor intensive,
but it will grind it off. That's the only way
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you'll get it off as far as I know.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And maybe a combination of both of those things you suggested.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, that might be the answer. Grind it down
as smooth as you can and then try and touch
it up. But I've seen people do that with even
like old fashioned steel white siding when it was designed
to chalk and they couldn't get that stain off. I've
seen people paint the brick. There was a guy on
(08:50):
the west side of town that used to match it,
and he did it as a little side job. He
would go around and touch up where the whitewash was
on brick. And that crylic really acrylic paints really stick
well to brick. So just an idea.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Okay, well, I truly appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
All right, very good Nan, Thank you much for the call.
I appreciate all right. Yeah, I know it's that old
commercial putty. I remember the very first house I bought
steel casement windows. That was that was the norm after,
you know, in the late forties and fifties when they
were building homes, single Paine steel casement, cocked in commercial
(09:32):
putty and that stuff. Even the glazing compound which is
now acrylic for fixing windows. And again we don't have
many of those windows even left, but they're out there.
But before the acrylics they hit them in it was
called commercial putty and that stuff. When I bought my
(09:52):
first house, I had a couple of broken windows in
the house when we bought it. And trying to get
that old glazing compound that come glazing. Ey, this is
virtually impossible. I mean it was chisel. It was work
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free to join us as we're chatting about your home
and your home projects. Kent, Welcome, Good morning morning.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
The men called with the wasps in his yard. I
had the same predicament, yes, sir, and a couple of
things he might want to try the both retably inexpensive
and it worked for me anyway. Now, he said he
had yellow jacket.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, he said yellow jackets and he said was so
I wasn't really sure what he had.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Most of the ones that I mean, a yellow jacket
will yield their nests in the ground, right, but also
will a black was wass. I think folks around here
call them mud daubers. That's what I had. Anyway, if
you go early in the morning or you know, when
they're not acting right, and I just doneloaded in an
(14:04):
entire can of raid wasp and hornet killer and they've
never come back.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, there's also and I always get a little a
little nervous about, you know, different types of chemicals. But
I believe back in the day you could even use
seven dust and blow it in there. But I didn't
want to say that. Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, another I had It doesn't involve chemicals. It doesn't
work fast, but it does work. Yeah, and that's vinegar.
They do not like vinegar.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, so what did you have? Did you have the
did you have the did you have the wasp?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You say the black wasps nuddobbers And also the only
drawback with the vinegar is you want to be real
careful because it will kill your grass. Yeah, but dreams
good and you get it down there like I have
bermuda grass. If they ever come back quick regardless, but
(15:05):
it either on. Both methods have worked for me.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Do you ever see those cicada killers I was talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
No, I'm not familiar with what that is.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So it's if you look at your index finger, it's
about half the size of your index figure. And what
they'll do is they they're ground burrows too, and they
may have a more formal name. I've just always known
them as cicada killers. They will actually they you know,
burrow on the ground and make their nest and they're
(15:40):
called cicada killers because they'll come out of that hole.
They'll have their larvae down in that hole, and they'll
kill a cicada and drag it in the hole and
that'll be the food supply when they mature and they're
big and their threat. But I don't know if that Yeah,
(16:04):
so I don't. I'm not really sure what he had.
But yeah, I like your tips. I appreciate it. Okay,
have a good day, you do the same things, all right,
Let's go to Tim. Tim. Welcome, Hey Gary, how you
doing today. I'm hanging in there, thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Uh got some problem with ants, all right? And not
the ants like on the old Geico commercial, the little
creepy Crawley ants. It just seems like this overrun with
them this year.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah. Yeah, they've been bad. So you're talking like the
sweet ants of the sidewalk ants or are you talking
to real big carpenter.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Ants, small little time.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, they've been hard to you know, take care of
this year because of the rain and then we've had
extreme temperatures. It's been hot, it's been hold and their
diets change, and there are some and you know, you
can tell me what kind of repellence you were using.
(17:10):
There's some what do you call it liquids that we
use to have the antake back to the colonnen and
kill the queen because that's how you eliminate them. And
some of those actually have more protein or just carbohydrate,
and their diets change depending on the weather. There's some
(17:30):
that have both, so if you're using those type of products.
The only one I really know that have both is
the Rescue brand. And when they come, you know, they
go from outside they go inside. They're looking for only
one thing. They're looking for water, and they're looking for food.
And when you put these traps out or that food source,
(17:54):
you'll see more ants than you have now for about
three days. And after about three days the population will
drop dramatically and eventually you'll get them under control. You'll
you'll they'll take it back to the queen and when
the queen dies, they kind of start to process over again.
(18:15):
But that's a good way of elimitating. That depends on
how big the colony is. There's also powder that you
create a barrier around the exterior of the house. But
if you do both, there's a good chance you'll get
them under control. Sometimes a colony is so big, you know,
you end up half them. Get to a pest control
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company out has better products that we can buy, but
I try to rescue and traps.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Okay, the power you were speaking of, is that a
rescue brand as well?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Or No, that would be more like a perimeter dusting. Okay,
there's all kinds of brands out there, but it's for
answers for bugs period. It's just a it's a barrier
dusting that you'd reapply monthly.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Okay, okay, rescue. Is that a store item.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Or is that a yeah? I know Ace has it.
I've seen it in lows. You can get it online,
but uh for sure you can get it at a storefront.
All right, thank you much, I certainly appreciate. We'll take
a little break and when we come back, we got
Sam and John and Neil and Ron. If you'd like
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Sullivan talking about your home. Feel free to join us.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
and let's go to Sam Sam. Welcome, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
See I'm in northern Nevada. I'm listening to you guys.
Got a brother Nevada, uh huh. And I'm not very
familiar with bricks, and I've painted brick before. But I'm
by the house nineteen twelve and has the original chimney
and I want to keep it. But some of the
ground has obviously deteriorated, you know. And I'm very familiar
(23:13):
with tilesetter. So you regrout something. There's a lot of
times that grout's going to pop.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Out right right right, So yeah, but a good point.
Yeah done, good point. So, yeah, you know, the way
our homes are constructed, a lot of it just goes
back to what the raw materials are in the area
we're building a home, you know, is it would is
a brick because we have a lot of clay, you know,
So it varies. And understand that now for brick, when
(23:43):
the mortar is cracked or missing repairing, that's called tuck pointing,
and brick and concrete and growling doesn't like to stick
to itself, so you add an additive it's a bonding
agent to allow it to grip onto it. The mortar
(24:07):
is you can use like a cement mix or a
mortar mix and a bonding agent with that and clean
out the crevice, remove the crumbling grouter mortar, and then
wet the brick so it doesn't suck all the moisture
out of the patch itself. And you're basically putting that
(24:31):
in with a margin trial and smoothing it out. There's
there's a joint raker half inch three quarter to smooth
it out. That's a quick one oh one on you
know the mortar patch. But yeah, you need a bonding
agent in it for sure, and you you know, you
need to wet the brick also so it doesn't pull
(24:52):
that moisture out of the patch itself.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Would you apply the bonding motor because I'm gonna paint ricks?
Would I just get swappy with the bonding agent and
just stealing the cravice and not worry about what I'm
gonna go to the brick because I'm gonna paint everything?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Or is that? Well? You would mix the bonding agent
in with the so you you know, if you get
like regular mortar mix, all right, at least you don't
have to worry about the color. That's the hardest part
of the job. Sam is the same with growding, right
to get that same look, that same color, it's really
(25:30):
really hard. And that's where a really good brick mason
can really help people out. In your case, you're gonna
paint it, so who cares? Uh put the bonding when
you're mixing the powdered mortar mix with the water you
would use. I think it's about a court to a
bag of mortar mix of bonding and you just mix
(25:50):
it all up into the same solution, into the mortar, uh,
and then ready to apply and yeah it may you
know you can get Yeah, you can be a lotpies
you want. I guess you gotta paint it anyway, but
you know, you may, you may. You don't need a
joint breaker. Maybe you just need a your finger. Yeah,
(26:12):
you want to get it as smooth as you can.
But yeah, you don't have to worry about the color.
That's probably the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
So when it comes to grout, like there is like
cement grout for like lifting grout. And then you have
your type S motor mix, which everybody does for the
stone around here, right, but you now there's motor mix itself.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, so you can make you you can make your own.
And in some cases, if you told me that house
was one hundred and fifty years old, they probably made
the brick on site. We'd be talking about using a
you know, a designated type of mortar and making your
own with Portland cement and stuff. But you know, if
you got to you know, if you got and uh,
(27:01):
I don't know how many bricks you got missing mortar joints,
but I would get probably a bag of mortar mix
which was a sixty seventy eighty pound bag mixed with
water at a bonder. You probably got more mortar mix
than you'll ever need.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yep, okay, I'm just worried about a long crim of
that and pop it out after it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You know, Well, the bonding agent's the key, and not joking.
Wetting the crevice and getting that brick to absorbs some
of the moisture is also the key. So where people
getting problems in doing the tuck pointing is more because
they didn't know about having a bonding agent. Didn't know
(27:41):
that was necessary. And number two, they didn't pay attention
to hydrating the brick, so the brick pulls the moisture out,
it doesn't create a good bond. You do both those things,
I think you'll be smooth sailing.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Perfect. I appreciated, boss.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
All right, thank you, take care, Thank you all right.
The number to join us is eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five and Neil welcome.
Speaker 10 (28:11):
Hello, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You you're quite welcome.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
I've got a put it's about thirty five years old.
It's got aluminum siding on a good bit of it,
and there's one side of the house that never is exposed.
To sunshine, and I've got mold that grows there. You
know all the time. I have pressure washed it before
(28:38):
and it comes off.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Is there.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
You talked about a product called Wet we Forget. Do
you know if that does anything to help keep the
mold from coming back?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yes, but it is outdoors and mother nature always wins.
But there's a big difference in cleaning with a pressure
washer and using that product. And that is when you
use the Wet and Forget and you spray it on.
The First thing is it's not instant gratification. It takes
like six weeks for the sun and the rain to
(29:11):
work with it. But it's a total kill, so it does.
It takes longer for it to regrow. Now it's not
like five years. It's like you get an extra year. Okay,
you clean it this year. Next year, you're not going
to have it the following year. You'll start seeing some shadowing.
(29:33):
Best way to use that product, because it's really easy,
is just spray that siding down every year. It's a
it's a bottle that connects to a hose. It does
about twenty five I think it's twenty five hundred square feet,
So you know in thirty five bucks or something. You
just spray the whole house down and and you won't
(29:55):
see molder, fungus or mildew or you know, in the future.
So yeah, it does have a residual bill up though.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yes, it just takes a little while.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It does take a little while, so it's not instant.
It's not like a pressure washer. But then a pressure
washer isn't really totally killing it. I mean you're getting
off the stain. Sometimes if you have vinyl sighting, I've
seen people probably not do it properly and shooting it
up with a pressure washer a too steep of an eyeword,
(30:27):
flipping the sighting off. So you don't have that to
worry about. But you do have to be patient because
I'm weak. Four. You may say that Gary Selvin told
me to use this, and he's crazy, it didn't work,
and then you know, two weeks later you walk out.
Believe me, when people come to me with products, I'm like,
you do what with this product? You spray it and
then you don't do anything. And so I always I
(30:53):
try really hard to always use everything I ever talk about.
Of course, you can't use everything, but I remember that
one vividly because I'm thinking there's there's no way this
is going to work. And I was the same person
at week five, Hundle and this stuff is not gonna work.
And it works.
Speaker 10 (31:12):
It sounds to me like it doesn't work. But yeah,
talking to the voice of experience, do it on a.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, everything's always subject to how people do it too,
and you can do it when it's hot out, but
do it early morning or do it later in the afternoon.
You want to minimize the evaporation, so it's kind of
a clear, sticky stuff. You can't even tell any things
on there. I mean, you're just gonna spray this stuff
on willy nilly, and you know it's gonna dry and
(31:42):
you can't see it. And then Garry said, son and rain. Okay,
we had sun and rain. Nothing's happening though, But if
you can do it, minimize the evaporation so it doesn't
have to be cool. But you shouldn't have sun beaten
on that siding when you spray it.
Speaker 10 (31:59):
Thank you very much, Gary, All right.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Take care of have a good weekend, all right. Let
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five five talking about your home and John Welcome.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
Hi Gary, How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Doing fine?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Appreciate you taking a call you bet hey?
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Now what I am going to attempt to paint the
garage floor of the speckled paint set up. I wastly
not sure if I'm going to do the epoxy or
the polyuria. Kids. I'm really looking at some of the kids.
But all I need to do is get the floor
in good shape first, right, I have a couple of
(35:53):
little patches I need to make. I'm big. But then
I had multiple professionals come out and estimate it.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
And that's why I watch myself.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
They look to me like could be the imitation expansion joints.
How they cut your garage in the floor.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Pieces right right?
Speaker 11 (36:12):
And these are these are solid? I mean there's concrete
in the bottom of them. It might be a couple
of little hairline cracked, but they don't seem like real
expansion joints and so everyone. I have some friends who
have had this done professionally and they fill those in
to make it once appear to be one smooth surface.
(36:34):
And that's a fair amount of patch and like stuff.
On my research, I've been seeing like two parts of
POxy h like a rostolium makes one because it's the
kits I've been looking at to fill in. But it's
got to be I have to be able to grind
it down also because I do have to grind this
because of some staining and stuff that they said. The
(36:55):
acid won't the acid watch won't take off like old
paint and duff on the surface.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right. You got to get the bile there.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Correct correct.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
So what I'm wondering is there is that what I
need to do, just take a whole bunch of that
two part of apocha and trow it in.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Or is there a tube type concrete.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
I know there's two type concretes, but it's the grind ability.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That I'm in.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
These expansion joints help me out here are they? Is
it like a little trow little groove or is it
like salt.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
Cut or what it looks like more like a trowel
because like if I put my finger in it and
I'm going right now, it's solid concrete at the base
bottom of like like there's some little hairline cracks. There's
no packing or anything in them.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So the purpose of that, just before we get into film,
the purpose of that is to make that the weakest
point of the floor, so when there is movement that
it will crack there. Right, Okay, so when we fill it,
(38:13):
it probably will still crack there. But the benefit, and
that's what you're asking me, I think, is the benefit
will be the whole thing will be smooth.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Correct, Okay?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Is it important that the whole thing is smooth?
Speaker 11 (38:34):
Not necessarily I've just seen syesthetically the garage I've seen. Yeah,
you're telling me that's going to be a big mistake
as well.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm so. So here's my I'm you know if you
have Yeah, the people that are telling you to do
that is that the people that you had quote you
about it, you know about having it, because they may
have things that we don't have.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
Okay, And that's that's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, And that's what I'm worried about too.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
So here here's here's my uh, philosophy on it. Okay,
So we got a little groove that is trialed in
to make it the weakest part of the slab. So
if it cracks, it's gonna crack. Now we're gonna be
upfront and we're going to take a filler and we're
going to cover that up for we can't see those
(39:29):
grooves and so when it cracks, it's going to crack
there and we're still going to see it. Or we
have concrete to concrete, is it going to delaminate and
get loose in where I'm going to have maintenance there?
That's so that's my concern. So it's your concern too,
(39:51):
because you said what do I use in there? There
is I would say the one thing. I would look
at it as a non cementatious product, so we don't
have to worry about concrete not bonding to concrete. There
is a product called rock Patch. I'm gonna get you
(40:15):
to this website and I want you to look at
some of their products too, and they are a sponsor,
but I found them long before they were. It's good stuff.
So it's DICEE DAI cch codings dot com all right,
and they have this rock patch. Rock Patch is a
(40:40):
non cementationous so we don't have to worry about issues
with it bonding. It is an acrylic high resin polymer
that could fill that all right, So I feel good
about that, all right, So I know I keep saying,
all right, it will add good bonding to that. So
(41:04):
I think that's very important. If you've got a an
epoxy or a urea that would be filling out, it
would probably be equally as good. I don't know, but
I know about this rock patch and that would be
that'd be a good product to use there. As far
as the epoxy, there's a lot of there's a lot
(41:26):
of garbage on the market, so be careful. You're going
to get what you pay for. On that same website,
this guy's like he always call him, he's like the
mad scientists of concrete cover ups. He's got a number
of products. First of all, he does have an industrial
(41:48):
epoxy and emphasis on the word industrial, and it's probably
two or three times more expensive than what you're looking at,
but it is to do it yourself product. It has flakes,
so that's fine. A lot of the epoxy garage floors.
You're can buying the paint stores in the big box stores.
(42:09):
I'm telling you a figure somewhere between four and six years.
That's been my experience. I'm not here knocking them. I'm
just saying that's to be the expectations on this one.
I'm thinking probably twelve to fifteen years. So that's that's
one option. They also have. They got a couple of them.
(42:33):
One of them is called Spreadstone, one is called roller rock,
and one is called Torazo. You can actually make it
look like terreso tile if you wanted to. They've got
the video. They explain it very well. I would take
a look at the rock patch and any of those
(42:53):
four coatings that I just mentioned, and see what you think,
See what you thing. Keep doing your due diligence, and
your poly areas are are are your long term ones
versus an epoxy. But preparation is always the key, So
(43:14):
don't cheat. Don't cheat on that preparation. That's what's going
to make it successful.
Speaker 11 (43:20):
Also, all right, great, all right, okay, well no, I
appreciate it just the one piece. But say I do
with the rock patch, and then they're they're telling me
to patch everything, then grind, So can I grind that
rock patch to make sure it's smooth.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
You know what, I've never ground. I don't know. I'd
have to read up on it. I don't know. It's
as hard as a rock. I can tell you that,
but I don't know about the grinding. I've done it
with a trial, I've done it with pot marks on
a driveway and it. You know, you can get it
super smooth then, so even if you were grinding, you
(44:04):
probably wouldn't disturb it that much. But I don't know
the answer to that question. So definitely check watch those
videos too. They're they're very educational. Thank you much for
the call. I certainly appreciate. They also have a slip
resistant seiler called track Safe that can go over that,
and again the roller rock is also slip resistant. So
(44:26):
you get the story. A lot going on there, but
do your homework, all right. Coming up, we got mel
meg Abraham and you. If you'd like to join us,
do so. You're at home with Carrie Sullivan.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
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