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Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, weekend is upon us, and you're at home
with Gary Selvan as we take your calls regarding a
little home project. And let's get right back to the
phone calls. If you'd like to grab a line, do so.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five to five. Larry. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's Harry, Thanks for taking my calls.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Before the schooling season started, I had the furnace people
come and do a three seed, checked out and everything
is great.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Two weeks later I noticed.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Some liquid on the floor at the base of my unit.
It's a geothermals, so everything's inside.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Then I called him back. In the meantime, I.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Started up the ace because he got hot.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And they couldn't find anything. They couldn't find a plugged
drain or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The end of it is, keep in mind, this unit
has a b F the blow remote, all your blowers
getting ready to go out, and it's not moving enough
condensation drying things off and so forth.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's honestly expensive repair.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
But what do you think of that explanation?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, it makes sense, so let me make sure I
got this right. So when it came out, you start
seeing water on the floor and stuff, and they came
out and they checked the condensate line that was open
and free flowing, so it wasn't coming from then. So
(02:18):
then you got to start looking at other things that
can create moisture without a leak, and that would be
high humidity in the air coming in contact with cold
pipes and things like like that, which can produce condensation,
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uninsulated pipes or poorly insulated pipes leaks in the air. Duck.
I'm just trying to think of what else it could be.
But those types of things would produce moisture. Now you
said about the blower, tell me about that again.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, it's just very well frequency dry blower motor which
I'm pulled, only runs one speed for the cooling, but
it is a variable or at least a two speed.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
In the heating seed.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And they're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That it's getting weak, it's getting ready to fail. The
house is cool but they're saying, yeah, it's going to
go and probably at a most inopportune.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Time, and you need to replace that. They don't know
that either. But I guess the big question that I
would ask is why why is it going? What's what
signs is it showing that it's going just the moisture
and is that lower one.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But he also he also indicated that the temperature drop
or rise, whichever way it goes relative to the coil,
is not moving according to spec and their assumption is
that's because there's not enough air moving across it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's okay, So what they're telling you kind of makes sense,
and I'll explain. I don't know whether it's true, but
it kind of makes sense. Okay. So when it's taken
the humidity out of the air and the coils wet, okay,
and it's always kind of moving across those coils, but
it's not drying those coils. You're blowing that moisture all
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back up through the house. So humidity would be a
problem in creating moisture. So I don't know if you
have different settings on that blower or not. And I'm
assuming it's on. It's on when it's cooling. It's not
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all twenty four to seven, that's correct, okay. So if
it's so, so it's accumulating all this water when the
fan or and the air conditioning kicks on, that blower
kicks on. But that blower isn't strong enough to help
dry those coils. It's blown it back up in through
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the house. I mean, it would kind of make sense.
Like I said, it makes sense, but I don't know
if that's really what's happening. I'd get a second opinion
on it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, I was thinking about doing that because it's a
lot of money to change that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And well, you know the other thing I.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Said, probably won't cost you to have a second opinion.
I know there's a lot of companies that offer free
second opinions.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh really, okay, Yeah, I mean just.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Call around to you know, some of your better companies,
maybe a locally owned company, or you know, somebody that
you see in your neighborhood where people are satisfied. I'm
not saying the other one's bad, but you said the
magic word. That's kind of a you know, it's kind
of an expense. I'm not looking forward to. Why not
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getting a second opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, And I asked him about couldn't they just check
the CFM that motor is pushing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh wow, that required a hood and we don't do
that now.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And my experience is that you put a couple of
prob before and after and you can kind of see
what's moving, but maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, in a lot of cases, like I said, it's
not going to cast you any he can get a
second opinion, I'd get a second, and if you're not satisfied,
I'd get a third. I had the same one when
I had a blower motor in the air handler was
probably I can't remember. It's probably seventeen eighteen years old,
and it was getting near the end and I was
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having trouble with the blower, and you know, the guy
came out and said, you need a blower. It's eight
hundred bucks, okay, and he had second opinion. Guy comes
out and he goes, well, you know I can fux it,
and you know you don't need a blower right now.
I can get it to work, but you know, it's
at the end of its life. Your call. And I
(07:02):
ended up putting it in because you know, like I'm
gonna that's an old pay me now or pay me later,
and I'll just get it and get it off my
list there. But yeah, get a second opinion. I mean,
the guy said the second opinion was, yeah, I could
probably fix that for a hundred bucks or something, but
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you've got to you've got to decide whether you want
to go that route, because usually when this starts failing
in the age, you're going to have other things. So
you know, we just ended up replacing it and been
done with it. But it gives you an option though,
and it gives you a sense that you know there
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is something wrong with it, you know, and it's it's
not in the long term plan. So and if it's
like they got a short term fix, that other fellow
wasn't offering you that. So you'll have a decision to make.
But I think it's well worth getting a second look
at it.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well in the age of the unit too, it's fourteen
years old, and you know you start running into the
post benefit decisions as well.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's exactly right, That's exactly right. But at least you
know what you're comparing, right.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So yeah, all right, all right, very good, thank you,
I got you, bye bye, And make note of that.
I talk about it a lot, whether it's a new roof. Windows,
we kind of know when they're bad, I think, But
you know, when you get in a chimney liners, that's
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another one. If you're not satisfied and they don't have
all the video can point out and explain it and
tell you why this purchase needs to be made. Get
a second opinion. And I've done it multiple times. I've
been satisfied. Every time I did it, I felt then
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comfortable making decision one way or the other. And I'm
not saying I cut out the first guy, because in
a lot of cases I did not. But I just
you know, there's that sense of comfort when you get
another person. It's all about education too. When somebody is
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going to make a repair or a replacement of something
in your home, if they talk to you and educate you,
you'll have a comfort about it and ask questions. I
don't know how many questions the other felt, but you
could tell in his voice he wasn't comfortable with that.
(09:40):
He wasn't comfortable with the answer, and I wasn't there,
so I don't know exactly what the answer was. It
kind of makes sense, but I got some questions and
you could show me a few things. So second opinions
that's the key. Let's take a break. We got Ron
Ruben donnah Bill and you, if you'd like to join us.
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Our phone number, if you've got a question to ask
is eight hundred and eight two three eight two five
To the phones we go, We got ron Ron Welcome.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Hello there, Yes, sir, I have a problem with a
Chris old smell coming out in my far place and
I'm looking for some cures for it, if you know any.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, there's a couple of things going on, and one
of the things is do you get it cleaned on
a periodic basis? That would be the first.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Question I have not I haven't used it in years,
probably twenty five years or so.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
As I just started.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Had an insert in it and I just took it out.
I do not plan on replacing it, and I'm gonna
get electric insert and put in it.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, So the insert had a damper on it, right,
it did. Does the chimney have a damper in it?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Not anymore?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Okay? There you go, put lit on it.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
So there's a couple of things going on. So I've
said that a couple of times, but it's a fact.
So the the insert had had a damper in there,
so it was kind of stopping that creos odor. And
once that's pulled out and there isn't a damper in
the chimney, and you know, I don't know how dirty
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that chimney is. They'll obviously inspect that and you know,
decide whether it needs to be clean, but that's not
going to be the full answer. You're gonna need it clean.
If there's not a damper in there, there's gonna have
to be a damper installed. Make sure you tell them
what you're gonna have put in there in the place
of that, right, because that may affect it. And whenever
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do you notice it being bad at different times?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Ron Oh, sure, when the humidity is like, yes.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So it probably needs cleaning too. So it does. But
I've had it where the shelf in the chimney. You know,
they cleaned the chimney and the shelf was still dirty
and you get, you know, fifty five degrees outside and
drizzly rain, and man's that smell was really strong. Cleaning
that whole chimney and the shelves is critical. And then
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a lot of times what happens is when we have
different things running in our home, we're pulling air from
other openings. So if you don't have a damper in there,
and you got the exhaust fan going when you're cooking
or when you're showering, which you should have on. It's
pulling the replacement air right down that chimney instead of
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somewhere else path of least resistance and smelly. So yeah,
I think you know you get a CSIA certified chimney
sweep out there. Let him take a look at them,
clean it and get a solution. And solution I'm sure's
the damper in there.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Okay. I have a couple more questions about about the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
One person wants.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
To use a product called a paint and peel. You
paint it on with a paint brush and you got
to let it sit.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Are Yeah, where are they going to put that.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
On top of the for the kreosol build up this
after they clean it to try to get that off.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Well?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
In course, another this is from one professional wants to
use it and another one say it's not going to
do any good.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, I don't know if it's going to do any good,
but I kind of have a tendency to agree with
your firston that said, it's not going to be doing
any good because the paint and peel you're going to
be able to use in the firebox, and believe me,
it's a wonderful product. It will remove kreos soap. But
the problem is it could be anywhere up that chimney
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and then you're not going to do the painting inside there.
So I would say, if anything, it's a step of
the entire project, but it's not the cure to the problem.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Okay, the damper should that go at the top of
the chimney or just inside the firebox?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Inside the firebox, and we'll let them be the decision
on there. So when you pick a company ron, there's
an association called CSIA. It's the Chimney Sweep Institute of America.
I believe, make sure that they're a member of the CSIA.
There's some good code of ethics and different things. They
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ought to be able to even run a camera up
there and show you any issues or show you the kreosote.
It's a pretty transparent project, to be honest with.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
You, right, Yes, they did that yesterday and their opinion
was that the chimney itself is fine, but the firebox
needs to be clean good.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, if it's just the firebox, the painting it would work.
But on the other hand, if it's if it's been
a wall since that chimney's been clean, probably wouldn't be
a bad idea. Well, they did inspect it, so that
that's a that's a plus. Yeah, well, if it's clean,
it's clean, then the paint and peel may be the issue. Really, Curro,
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I should.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
Say, yeah, well, good, all right, you were a big.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Help then, I hope, so thank you, take care of
Thank you, bye bye. Well I'll tell you what we're
getting to that timy year too. I know, I know
it's hot, I know it's summertime and uh, not really
thinking about chimneys. But if you suspect or can smell
a problem, or suspect a problem, or your chimney just
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needs some maintenance, now's the time to get that done.
When you try to start getting stuff like uh that
done in October November, you're gonna wait four five, six
weeks on a good chimney company. So you know, if
it's been a few years since you have had that
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chimney inspected and clean, I get that on there right now.
Let them they'll run cameras up there, they'll look for liners,
you know, making sure it doesn't have a crack in it.
It's hard to think about that now, but now's the
perfect time to have those inspected. And if there needs
to be some work done, you can still get it
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done before the weather changes on us. All right, Well,
line them up. We got Donna, we got Ruben and
Bill and we'll continue. You're at home with Gary's Sullivan.
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Sullivan and plenty to do around home this time of year.
We're getting a little ahead of us would or you
would think we're getting a little ahead of us ourselves
with the talk on chimneys. But I'm here to tell
you no, give it a good exterior evaluation too. Next
time you're walking around the home, maybe you have a
pair of binoculars. Look for crack bricks, missing mortar, anything
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along those lines certainly can be a sign of some
deterioration the chimney, and certainly got to take action and
execute a plan to get that repaired. All right, do
let's get back in it. We'll go to Donna.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Donna, Welcome, Hi, good morning, Gary, Thank you for taking
my call. I wanted to just speak to thank you.
I wanted to speak to some calls with you coming
in and I know you're the expert on this, and
I don't know how the terms us with the furnace
and the air conditioner, but I had mistakenly had my
furnace set on fards all the time, not auto, so
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that was part of the problem. But the blower motor
didn't did go because I checked it when I turned
it on the heat and turn on. So my brother
came over and found at the circuit board or whatever
that appliance is inside the furnace had gotten a lot
of water in there. Because I went downstairs and everything
was sweating. It was very, very alarming to me. And
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he checks the tube that leaves leaves the furnace and
goes to the drain and he said this, this is invented,
and I just looked at him. I didn't know what
he meant by that. So he had to get a
tea and he saw the pipe and then put in
the tea and he said, you always have to then
an atmosphereic drain yep y, so then have I had
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no issues with that, So I just wanted to pass
that along in the event that that might be the possibility.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, and that's it wasn't the possibility in that particular
issue the fellow with the geothermal because that was one
of the first things he had said about inspecting the
commonsate line, you know, for any errors or being clogged.
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That's exactly where my first go to place was also,
and you're exactly right. So folks, when that plastic one
inch pipe is coming out of the air handler, and
then there is an exterior one inch pipe that usually
goes on the outside of the air handler to the
floor and into a floor grain or into a laundry
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into somewhere to exit that condensation out. There is a
tee just exactly as Donna says, and the top there
is no pipe. That's your vent and the side part
of the tea or the single portion of the tee,
that's where that pipe is connected. And then the other
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part of the tea is where the pipe runs down
the side to the floor grain, and the top one
is open. So yeah, you gotta have you gotta have
it vented. He is very correct, and I'm sure that
did take care of your problem. So do you run
that fan on auto? Now?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I know, I know, yeah, good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Good that that really helps things dry out and not
redistributing all that condensation and in form of humidity. So
you're probably a little bit cooler in.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Your house too, yes, sir, and dryer too. But thank
you so much, Garry, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Appreciate it alrighty and again our phone numbers eight hundred
and eighty two three eight two five five Reuben welcome.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yes, sir, I built a house a couple of years ago,
brick home and did spray phom insulation and it's all
electric heat, and I've got some high end the pell
of windows in there. And then the once it gets
down around twenty degrees, I'm getting some condensation around the
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edges of the windows, the lower edge of the sash,
and I can't really sense any air coming through there,
and it's a little bit irritating, but it didn't like
it's stripping, it's just forming right.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And well, one.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Person who's told me of a fresh air return was
not put on the unit.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So on what the unit on the air handler?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes, pulling fresh air from the outside.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well maybe, I mean, so the reason there's condensation, and
this is mainly in the winter time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yes, just the cold. Yeah, once it gets around twenty degrees.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, yeah, so you probably have and you probably have
too much humidity in your home. Now, it's a relative humidity, okay,
So it's relative to the temperature. And to give you
an example, right now, warmer air can hold more moisture.
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So the relative humidity outside probably is today, probably seventy percent.
I don't know, I haven't looked yet. Inside our home.
The optimum relative humidity in our home ideally would be
around fifty five percent. Okay. If this is the middle
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of January, it's twenty degrees outside, the relative humidity is
probably thirty percent, okay or whatever. It's drier because it's colder,
but inside our home is usually drier also, okay. Hey,
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that's why people have humidifiers, humidifiers, not dementifiers. Humidifiers. But
if we and the perfect relative m ammidity inside your home,
when it's thirty two degrees even freezing outside is around
thirty five percent, and when and it decreases, so when
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it's twenty outside, I'm guessing I would say the relative
humidity inside your home should be around twenty five percent.
So if we're cooking and we're taking showers and we
don't have the fan on, you're gonna get exactly what
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you have is that strip of commensation. So here's what
I want you to do, is we got we gotta
get some data next year when it gets real cold. Okay,
you can get a little thermometer and humidity guide all
in one, and you could get a couple of them
and put them in different places of the house. You
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can just get little humidity guides. It'll tell you what
the relative humidity is inside your house. And you can
go online and you'll find recommended indoor humidity guidelines. But
it's very simple. If you just go summertime fifty five percent,
wintertime thirty five percent, and then if we have some
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real extreme we probably want it a little bit lower
than that. But it's that's what's causing it. The only
time it's a really big problem is if that window's
wet all the time and you got wood windows, certainly
we could have some issues. But I had a little
bead of commensation on our bedroom window this morning. I
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noticed it right away, and it was actually on the outside.
It's very very hot and humid outside and there may
be a little air leaking, but it's more humid outside,
and even though it's warm, it's there's too much humidity,
and that condensation takes place on hearts slick surfaces. So
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I'm sure that's what it is. And next winter, do
you have a humidifier on your furnace.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
It?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Okay? Do not? All right? All right, Let's just pay
attention to where your indoor humidity is. Okay, and again
in your time, thirty five percent, if it gets down
to freezing I mean twenty twenty five percent or down
to zero twenty to twenty five percent would be ideal.
May not be comfortable, but it would be ideal. Let's
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let's just see if it falls in that parameters and
then you know, if you're running forty forty five percent
humidity inside our home, we got to figure out what's
causing that humidity. It's you know, a dryer vent that's
not totally connected, a fan in the bathroom that's not
being run or not being run long enough. There's things
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we can find that that we can maybe fix or
repair and drive that humidity down and have the condensation stop.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Okay, So I ideally if it's twenty degrees out, you're saying,
what I want the humidity inside the house again, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well, if it's twenty degrees, probably about twenty five percent.
If it's freezing outside, let's say during the course of
the winner, you go thirty two degrees outside, the relative
humidity inside your home should be thirty five percent or less.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
All right, hope that helps very good.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I hope it does too.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, take care bye bye. By the way, you can
get and we used to post on our website, but
you can pick up a relative humidity or recommendations inside
your home where it should be. I've seen indoor summer
readings anywhere between fifteen and sixty percent. I prefer to
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keep my house no higher than fifty percent relative humidity
in the summertime. In the wintertime, thirty five percent. I
can get it. I can keep it at thirty five
percent when it's twenty degrees outside and still no condensation.
You can have condensation due to a leaky window. Now
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he said they were newer Pella windows. But make sure
those windows are locked. A lot of times, you know,
people start panicking and they go through a nice fall,
they close the windows, but they don't lock them. There's
a little draft, it hits the warmer air inside bingo condensation.
All right, Bill, you'll be up first. We got Pat
Mark Robert. We'll take a break and you're at home
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I have to admit I wasn't really prepared to answer
a lot of questions on compensation today, especially when we're
talking about being twenty degrees outside. No, no, no, But
I had condensation on my window, So I tried to
verbalize that part. I don't know if I did a
very good job of it in the summertime. So on
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a day like today, you hear the weather guy used
the due points, you know, du points around seventy five. Well,
that that means it's holding so much water. Okay, that
that high humidity. Let's say it's I don't know, eighty
degrees and eighty percent humidity very possible in the morning
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and being ninety percent and it's out that's the outside weather,
and inside you have fifty five percent humidity and it's
a lovely seventy three degrees. That window, that glass on
that window is a hard, slick surface. It is chilly.
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I didn't say cold, is chilly, and that outdoor hot
heavy humidity is hitting that chilled glass and it squeezes
that moisture right out and you have condensation on the
outside of the window, maybe just down at the bottom,
but that's what's going on. Not much you're gonna do
about that. Not much you're gonna do about that. You
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make sure the wind is nice and tight. You can
make sure there's good weather stripping on that window. You
can make sure the windows, like I said, are locked,
that there's no air penetration or minimized air penetration. All right,
let's go to Bill.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Bill, Welcome, good morning, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
You bet you bet, uh got it quite well.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
First off, I don't need a second opinion on two
products that you recommend. One is Wet and Forget shower,
and I got the new Wet and Forget screen.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And it's great, good, good.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
So I've listened in the past, but I've never had
a problem. I recently had somebody visited me for about
forty five minutes with a fairly new car, and I've
got an oil stain on the driveway. I don't believe
it's engine oil unless it had just been changed, and
they didn't because it's very clean. It's either power steering
or transmission. What would be the best thing to get
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that off?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, there's a couple commercial degreasers. Crud Cutter makes one
called you know a degreaser, Uh, that would be an option.
There's there's one called Purple Power that does a pretty
good job. There's also some things you can do where
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they're not commercial. It really depends on how far it's
soaked in it. I'm assuming this is concrete, correct.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yes, it is a concrete driveway Faces of the East.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Okay. Sometimes just putting in on some like kitty litter,
grinding it in at your foot. It's an absorbent. Let
it sit overnight and a lot of times it'll suck
that up. So I would you know, if you got
any of that, or or you want to get a
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little bag of kitty letter, probably try that first. If
that's not gonna work, again.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
That's that's okay. I got a cat, so you know.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Okay, yeah, try that first, Try that first, and then again.
If it's not you can get the Crudcutter oil and
grease remover for concrete. If nothing else works, I'll give
you the nuclear answer for that. You got to get
it online. There's a product called act Act Act Cleaner.
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It's used in the oil fields. It is a living
microbe that eats oil. Okay, it's a powder. You sprinkle
it on. It might take it a day, it might
take it ten days, and it'll just disappear. There is
no scrubbing, there's no washing, there is nothing put it on. Okay,
it devours the oil.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
It is crud cutter, available at a big box store.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Is okay, Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
All right, very good, good luck yourself, a great day.
You do the same, Thank you. All right, let's go
to Robert. Robert, welcome, how you doing.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
Hey, listen, I got a composite deck and it's really
it's looked good over the last five years. And the
handrails aren't consistent with the deck material and they look
kind of so I wonder if there's any product you
can put on it. And I was actually I'm a
wet and forget guy too. I was wondering, you know,
I get real weird about spraying stuff on that deck.
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So is wet and forget for that product. Well, composite
deck one one of the better ones.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Well what are we trying to remove? You said? You
told me they just doesn't look as well, is it?
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Mildew or what.
Speaker 9 (41:47):
No, your handrails just look they don't have the same
gloss or the same look. You know, the Sun's board,
you know, taking them the number.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You hit the number it is the sun. It's it's
more uh exposed than the floor. No, the wedd and
forget isn't going to help you at all on that
product or on that problem. So that there is it
a cap composite or is it a straight composite?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Uh? You know.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
And it's funny thing was in the in the in
the process of this call and what have you. I
I forgot the name of the deg on deck, but
it's uh, it's one of the two best that came
out about five years ago. Well, and it's awesome, man,
it is awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
So there's track timber Tech tracks timber Tech, Yeah, Zach,
Uh those are the biggies decorators.
Speaker 9 (42:39):
Yeah, let's go with let's go with timber Tech and
and uh but when I called them, they said, yeah,
you really can't do anything but wipe those handmrails off
and what have you. And they have a solution, but
it's not uh making me too excited, nonetheless, but uh, yeah,
I just thought maybe you might have an idea.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Or there is some composite stains, but it isn't really
used on capped composites. So originally when composites and they're
still made, there is still non capped composites. But a
lot of the composite decking and rails now does have
a cap. It's a PVC cap and railings are always
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the issue when it comes to the sun with some
fading and different things. Would you say it's fadings?
Speaker 9 (43:34):
It seems like, yeah, I'm wiping it off all the
time and I'm coming back out of there and it
looks misty, kind of whitish, if.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You will, Yeah, again, if you kind of get in
with the find out you know the exact name. If
it is timber Tech, get back with them, because I'm
pretty sure if it's a cap composite, there is a
fade warranty on that product and maybe they'll send you
the product they're recommending to restore that. Okay, thank all right,
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I hope that helps, Thank you. Yeah, there's a lot
of head to that too. You can paint or stain
composite decking, but you cannot use that stain on a cap.
Composite decking probably doesn't really pertain to the railings and
things that he had. But if you have an old
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composite deck that's fifteen twenty years old and it's just
been beaten up by the sun and it almost looks
like slabs of concrete, you can stain that defly has
I think Cabot has a composite deck. Stain all right, Mark, Susan,
Chris Pat sit tight. If you'd like to join us,
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