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Speaker 1 (00:34):
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two five five mark lead us off this hour.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That me.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yes, sir, all.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Right, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I got a Climate Master air Conditioning unit deiothermal water
dripping off of the vents in my back room and
the bathroom hasn't been used for showering for approximately two weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But there's still cold air being pumped through that pipe. Correct, correct? Okay,
I think I got.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
By humidity issues since we had the unit put in.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, I think we're just going to go back to
that whole condensation issue. Do you know where that is
that pipe run up in the attic? And then my
question is is that pat pipe insulated?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm supposed to be insulated.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It was.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's all a flex duct, is what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, can they put the unity in?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Which I didn't care for, but that's what I got.
Uh unit is an attic. My my attic is all
the blown not blown? What's the on the rafters?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah? Okay, the phone you're talking? Okay, So I mean
it's not really that hot up there.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's just high humidity issues all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, I'll tell you right now. Even if it's an
insulated pipe, you know, even if there's a little you know,
maybe not fitted real tight or anything. That addict is
probably a hundred anywhere from one hundred and ten to
one hundred and fifty degrees, depending on whether it's properly ventilated.
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So even a well ventilated addic when it's ninety degrees,
it's probably gonna be a one hundred and five hundred
and ten degrees pumping cold air through it. If there's
any metal, even the housing of that fan, if not
protected from that heat, will cause condensation on it and
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could drip through. That's that's my guess what's going on.
I mean, you have to get up there and take
a look, but that's my guess what's going on. Yeah,
there's some metal that's exposed to that heat that's got
cold air in it. The hot air's got more water contented.
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It hits that cold steel and it just sheds the moisture. Okay,
so we'll do some looking there. You go, all right,
Good luck, Mark, I appreciate it, you bet, take care,
Bye bye. I think we're kind of getting in this.
One of the great things I've been doing a show
for thirty nine years. One of the things I really
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appreciated your calls because it really it really kind of
gives you a snapshot. You're not the only one Mark
that's having that problem. Think of the calls that we've
had today on condensation. I was totally not thinking today
would be a discussion on condensation. As I look now,
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it makes total sense that we're getting a lot of
those calls. But you know, this time of a year,
we'd normally be getting a lot of paint questions, a
lot of fix the driveway questions, questions, yeah, a lot
of stained the deck questions. And I think we can
all say it's probably a little too hot to be
doing that work anyway. And then all of a sudden,
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you know, there's work around our homes that is it
has to be done. It's maintenance, maintenance, and then there's
oh my gosh projects something broke, or then there's the
oh my gosh, I got to fix this project and
condensation would fall there. What's causing it, where's the why,
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and let's get that, you know, taking care of if
we can, if we can find that source. But it's
been interesting taking those calls that I've enjoyed it. I
hope you have two and if you'd like to join us,
do so. It's eight hundred eighty two three eight two
five five, let's go to Pat Pat Welcome.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, hi Gary, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You bet I have uh, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah. So I have a brick on the front of
my house and there's basically an upstairs you know, a
large window and downstairs large window, and what they have
done is put a wood accent basically between the two windows.
And every couple of years I end up having to
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paint this thing because it gets moisture behind it and
the paint peels and it just doesn't look good. So
I'm wondering, is there are way so I can keep
the moisture from coming and then maybe use like some
kind of composite wood or something like that so I
don't have to paint this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Everything. Well, you can always use a composite wood. You
set a wood accent between two windows, and you have
a brick house. Can you give me a little more
details of how that would where's that wood accent head?
Is it right over the brick?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's just basically it's just between the two windows, the
first you know, the first floor and second floor window.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, it's kind of like a a trim for a
header board or something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, But it's about I don't know, it's probably about
three or four feet tall by about you know the
length of the window, so the windows are probably like
eight ten feet.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is it wood siding or what kind of wood is it?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
No, it's just regular wood, like like plywood. And then
they put like a little almost like a trim to
highlight though.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. So my question to you, Pad is where do
you think that How do you think that moisture is
getting behind that piece of wood?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know. Yeah, that's where our answer is gonna
lie though. So one of the things I'm concerned about
is is it getting between the brick and the wood
or is it getting it could be further up on
the brick wall where it's actually going behind the brick,
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and then it's I don't know if that wood has
brick behind it and it's bleeding through or it's not
even there where that moisture could be wetting the backside
of that wood that panel if it's just decorative. To
answer the question, you could get like a an AzaC siding,
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which would be like a composite siding installed, but it's
still if it's moisture is coming out from the brick
or nothing, you know, further up on that brick wall,
either the brick's not sealed or some of the mortar's missing,
or at the top of the window, and it's finding
its way to that source, to that area. We almost
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got to figure out where that moisture's coming from. Otherwise,
even if you put a composite up, I'd be a
little concerned about mold infiltrating into the house. Right right,
So I guess I was gonna say it almost starts
with pulling that yeah behind it, Yeah, yeah, it almost
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comes out. There's a house across the street from us.
They had that stucco, that synthetic stucco, and they were
tearing that off. The house was twenty five years old
and the header beam was all moldy and rotten, so
they were obviously and it was the problem from the
window that was getting down in there. And I'm sure
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it starts smelling the house or something. When they tore
that synthetic stucco off, you could see what the problem.
You know, that the wood was rotting and it was black,
and it was moldy, and I'm sure it was from
the window, and I'm sure they took care of it,
but they I'm sure they didn't know until they took
that off, right right, Okay, So I think that's the
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investigat that's gotta happen, be honest with you. It could
be something as simple as just the window is, you know,
not cocked, or that clocking has, you know, deteriorate a
little and water is getting behind there, and you know
that wood is unpainted and unprimed on the back, and
it's just wicking that moisture in there, and then the
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paint fails of course, right a right, okay, all.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Right, all right, well at least i'll have something we'll
go with.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's hard to track down, but I hear you.
I think you're gonna end up pulling that wood and
see what's going on. Thank you much for the call, Chris.
I appreciate it, and let's take a little break. We'll
come back and we'll have Chris, I'm sorry, and Susan
and Joe. If you'd like to join us, we've got
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and you're at home with Gary Sullivan. That's what we're
working on, is the home, little maintenance and repair, preparing
for the season. And well, we got plenty of tips.
We also got plenty of calls, so we gravitate to
the calls. And by the way, we'll have a whole
nother hour after this. It'll be uninterrupted, just you and me,
(14:05):
no guests today. And I figured there was plenty to
talk about when we start talking about energy bills, and
then we got in all kinds of condensations. So glad
we played that out. Yes, all right, let's go to Chris.
Chris welcome.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, yeah, sir, here's the question. And my house was
built in nineteen eighty seven, and at the time it's
a typical four bedroom, two story Ryland build it so
there's only two million just like it. It's a brick
veneer on the bottom and siding on the top. And
at the time when they built it, they sold me
what they called was the Premium insulation package, and it
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has I guess, the tie back on the outside and
then the bats of insulation in the walls and then
on top of the studs in the inside. They put
It came in four by eight sheets, just like drywall,
one in sticks styrofoam over all the exterior walls and
anything leading out into the garage and all that stuff.
(15:04):
And I was wondering, should that be sufficient to keep
the cold out? Or is there something better that I
could do? Now the wall's never seen cold or anything.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But I would yeah, not say, you know, things change.
I would say that's good technology. I mean, you know,
if you went back to nineteen seventy seven, we didn't
even have that, so you know, you're out of the
game now today, you know, if you hit the premium
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insulation package. I don't know this, I'm making this up.
I would say it's probably a foam insulation and it's
probably you know, to EPA standards of an R nineteen.
I don't know what your thicknesses of the the Tievax. Great,
(16:01):
that's kind of like gore Tex. Okay, so that's gonna
minimize or eliminate water from going in, but it can
breathe and let water out, which there probably won't be
much because then we got that, you know, insulation, and
then you've got batting of insulation, so you got two
types of insulation. Side by side or back to back,
(16:24):
I should say yes, okay, and so on that insulation
with the panels as you described them, there should be
an R value on that panel. I don't know what
it is. It depends on the thickness. You might even
be able.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
To look at the one inch one inch.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm guessing R five. Maybe you
can look it up. Yeah, probably it's probably about five
somewhere there. It's a little better than than like a fiberglass,
so somewhere between R four and a R seven probably,
but I don't think it Probably in R five back there.
And then what do you have like three and a
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half inch? So that would be.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
I get the bad inslation? Would that be what they?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, so you probably you're probably around R twelve. I
mean that's not bad. I mean the standard now is
R nineteen, but I mean it's I'm guessing you probably
got about an R twelve in there, and you know
that's that's that's probably nineteen eighty seven standard. And I'm
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not sure you're going to do much about that. You
can use foam inslation, I'm not I'm not saying it's
going to be worth the price. I don't. But you
can compress that and replace it with you wouldn't replace it.
(18:02):
You can impress that with pressurized foam, and that would
add some our value and it would eliminate draft. Because
it's an expandable foam. It searches for cavities. Yeah, if
it's me, I'd probably concentrate amatic insallation. I think your
wall insallation's fine.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
That's what I was going to have done, was have
that because that insulation is blown in. It's been there
forty years, so it settled something.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, it's probably under under recommendation for our values. It's accessible.
You can blow it on top and you'll notice a
big difference. You really will, even in the sound of
the house. I think That's where I'd spend my money too.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
As far as the drafts, one thing you recommended with
those little foam inserts that you put around your outlets
and switches, What a big difference that makes BELIEB never noticed.
So you're really right against an outlet or a switch
on an experior. Well, how much air is pouring injury.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It is unbelievable how much that little piece of foam
stops air air filtration. It really is I agree, all right,
thanks much for the call, appreciate it and stay cool.
All right. Coming up, we got Susan and Joe, Jimmy
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Well, I hope you're staying cool on this summer weekend.
You're at home with Gary Sullivan and talking a little
bit about utility bills and compensation and insulation and ventilation.
There's all kind of go hand in hand in terms
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eight hundred eight two three eight two five five Susan Welcome.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Thank Gary. I live in a condo and I'm adjacent
to the laundry room, and for it's been probably the
last eight years this time of year, when it's hot
and humid, I'm getting strong perfume smells in my unit
through the I noticed you mentioned the phone to put
in your outlets. Some of it's coming through the outlets.
(23:31):
I'm I've talked to building management several years and I
don't get any satisfaction. They The last thing they told
me was that it's it's to be expected this time
of year when I'm next to the laundry room. And
I just don't think those smells should be in the wall.
And they have had the drier people check the events
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and they don't see anything. My question is it's only
it only happens when the dryer is on. But if
there are cracks in the walls or like where the
vents go into the wall, that's not cock So there's
like a half inch space there. Can it be getting
just from the room into the wall.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Or would it have to be so if you're not
and this is is this a communal laundry room where several.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
And also that there are four floors above me and
each floor also has a resom so it eats on
the roof.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right, So when you walk in the laundry room, does
that have that same smell?
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Yes? And they're not air conditioned. So Okay, it's very
hard and human and very strong smelling.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah. Well, so the question is what can.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
It get into the wall?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Just from sure?
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Yeah, so I could ask them to cok around the vent.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't know if you're going to stop it, but
I don't really know. I think the cause of quite honestly,
is it's not air conditioned. That in itself is going
to you know, I mean the outdoor humidity where I'm
at right now is seventy eight percent. I just looked
at it. It's eighty seven degrees seventy eight percent humidity.
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If it's not air conditioned, that air is not going
to be fresh. I mean, you're you're going to smell moisture.
So in a way, when they say it's to be
expected this time of year, you know it's to be
expected this time of year if it's not air conditioned.
I think that's probably true, and I understand that that's
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not pleasant. So, you know, ken those little foam things
around the outlets help. Yeah, maybe a little bit can
calking around that dryer event where it goes through the wall.
Can that help? Yeah? Yeah, certainly keep some of the
eat out If nothing else I don't know. If I
probably wouldn't use calking, I'd probably use like an expandable foam.
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If there's they're used pretty much so there's plenty of
water going down the drain pipe, so it's probably not
a problem there. I think it's just really hot, humid,
stagnan air that's just infiltrating.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
But is it coming? I thought maybe that there was
some kind of a leak in the ducks, that's in
the deck work, that's in the wall. Maybe, but would
they be able to They supposedly have checked, and there's
also a fan to draw it up. But where I'm
on the first floor, I wondered, does that make sense
that it would be worse.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, I don't know if it would be worse. If
it's damp, air is heavier, so that would settle to
a first floor, but warm air rises, so that would
be so my guess is it probably bounces out. Have
you talked to people above you? Do they still have
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the same problem.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
In the past? I have, but they're new people. I
guess I need to ask them again.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The other people were having the same problem.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
They know they weren't, but they but they Some people
don't notice smells as much as I do, well I do.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
People have different tous on that. I totally agree.
Speaker 10 (27:27):
And I think in the year that it started, they
replaced the washers and dryers and that was bleef February,
and it was that spring that I started, when it
started getting hard and human that I noticed it. And
that's why I just wondered about the ducks in the
wall and everything. But well, they can if they can see,
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do they use cameras to check those or what.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You could use a camera to check those? And another
thing is washers and dryers also there, especially the washers
it's a closed plumbing system, okay. And also the gasket
around the wash machine it stays moist, so it could
be some molds and mildews. That's also just creating that odor.
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And you know odors. You know, if if you're with
that common wall with a with it the the the
the washroom, that could certainly be the problem too.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
But it's when it's only when the that I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Does they clean the filters on those at all?
Speaker 10 (28:37):
I think, Well, they told me that the company was
coming out to check things, so I assume that they
do that. But I just I was also concerned if
the if the smelder in the wall, does that mean
that there's dampness in the wall too, and can mold
be a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
In the world. Well, possibly, yeah, I mean it's possible.
We don't know that. So, I mean, you know, if
it's exhausting and that pipe isn't connected all the way
and it's putting that damp hot air in that pipe,
it's gonna smell and it could cause mold. Whether that's
going on, I can't say.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
Yeah, okay, but does their move toward higher or lower
humidity because I've been running my air conditioning more than
I normally would, just to keep the humidity as low
as I can, which I think helps.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, So the best do youmidifier that you can use
is air conditioning. That's what air conditioning is. It's deumidification
of the air.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
But with the fumes. Then not move toward my apartment
if if it were.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Lows are there regardless, if you have a common wall,
they're they're regardless.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
But it's weird. But I also get it on the
other side of my union in my kitchen. It's traveling
through my wall and coming out that outlet. But okay, well,
I can try those.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah. I mean, if it's coming from uh you know,
the where the washer and dryer is, and you're sure
that and you know it's not air conditioned, it's probably
a lot of warm, hot air with a lot of
humidity in it that's in the wall and creating some odor.
(30:19):
I don't know how you eliminate that. I guess you
could put or they could put a deumidifier in the
washroom and that'll pull some humidity out of the the air. Again,
I don't know if that's really going to totally solve
the problem. But the whole issue is, you know, you
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got this room that has got a lot of humidity
and it's going to create an odor.
Speaker 10 (30:47):
Okay, even this supposedly was a firewall between me and that,
but the building's forty years old. I don't know if
things settle and crack or whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, sure does.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Okay, Well, I appreciate the information, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I know it's not super helpful, but I think it's
kind of the it's the lay of the land that
that's what you have. That is it is a problem,
and the problem is the way it's constructed and those
those smells, especially if it's an adjoining wall. You're going
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to share the smells just like you enjoyed. You join
the wall, all right, Joe, Welcome.
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control them.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
So I currently have three of them. I called a
couple of pest companies around here.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But yeah, don't deal with those.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Do you have anybody like any recommendations or any secret
formulas that you can give me?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
No, but I can look them up during the break
and maybe I can find something for you. I I
really don't have an answer for that. For folks that
don't know what we're talking about, Joe, it's pretty The
Lazars lizards were imported to Cincinnati by a Lazarus last
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name Lazarus, and there you find them in Cincinnati. I
can't even tell you their original They originated in what
in the Caribbean or Florida somewhere here, so they're not
native to the Cincinnati area. But let me look something up.
If I have anything, I'll lead off the next segment
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with it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay, awesome. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
You bet take care. Bye bye, and folks, if you
have some remedy to chase the Lazarus lizards away, I'm
sure there's another name. That's what they're referred to in
our hometown. You can share that with us. Our phone
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found probably more information you'd never want to know about
lazarus lizards. They're called the Italian wall lizards, and it
really talks. And how many times we've said this about
pest and ants and all that kind of stuff. So
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managing the environment, that's step one. Need to manage the yard,
the surroundings. They thrive in warm, dry, rocky environments with
plenty of hiding splices. So here's the plan and what
they are. They're lizards, they're small, they're fast, they run
up and down brick walls and rock walls. They aren't harmful,
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but remove the hiding spots. Okay, clear out rock piles,
firewood brush, dense ground cover, trim back shrubs. And I
can see where this would help immediately, especially near the
foundations for the shrubs. Seal the cracks and foundations and
patios because they can hide in those crevasses or crevices. However,
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then they eat insects that's their diet, so reduce bugs. Spraying.
The pest control companies could take notice of that because
a quarterly plan of getting rid of bugs around your house.
Many I know friends that I have at one Stop
pest control. That's what they do. They have a quarterly
plan where they come out and spray around the foundations
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and everything, which reduces the population of bugs. That's their
source of food. If you got outdoor lights, use the
old bug lights that keeps bugs away from the foundation
and keep the garbage, seal pet food in indoors. And
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I don't know, let's see, Oh, let's see what else
we got here. Use repellents. There are commercial lizard repellents
usually containing sulfur that can help, or there's a homemade
remedy mixing garlic, onions and cayenne pepper and water and
spray around the entry points of vinegar and lime juice
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also seems to work. Sticky traps that work. So there's
the long term control is I don't know if you
want to get into this. I think I try the repellence,
but talks about using over foundations, smooth siding or sheathing,
screen vents, and tightened door seals, so good weather stripping.
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So anyway, that probably enough of that. There's a lot
of information, a lot of things to work on, for sure.
Let's go to Jimmy.
Speaker 12 (38:44):
Jimmy, welcome, thanks for taking my call. You bet you,
I'm gonna be breefed. I've just had a brand new
remodel in her house. Picked out a floor, looked beautiful,
They put it down and then come back and uh Gary,
they used these big, huge, what they call transsition scripts
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and a couple of the rooms and they look terrible.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
They're incuation, you know what I'm talking about. There's a
whole bunch of different types.
Speaker 11 (39:16):
Though, well, these look horrible. They're like two inches wide.
And they said they had to do it because of
a difference in the elevation. They went from you know,
a concrete to a tile they didn't take up, and
I just didn't know. I didn't want to make the
contractor mad by telling them it looked horrible, but I
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could see now they should have.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So where are you dealing with him?
Speaker 11 (39:49):
Well, they're through and gone and took their money, and
you know, I mean, they finished it and everything else
is just peachy. King. She's thrilled to death. But I
was hoping there was an other solution besides those big well,
the transition strips they.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Use, so there may have been. I don't know if
there is any more, Jimmy. If the job is done, that's.
Speaker 12 (40:12):
Right, that's what's going.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And that's why I asked, you know, where are you
with them? Because you know, I don't know where you're
going to get with this, to be honest with you,
But they certainly well.
Speaker 11 (40:24):
I mean, I don't mind that they're gone if I
have to pay for it to have it done where
it looks nicer, yeah, I mean her her whole brand new,
you know, I mean, you know, notne a big deal,
but a seventy tho thousand dollars Ray Model on three
four rooms, and then these big strips are there that
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every time you walk in the round, you say them, So.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
It looks more like a threshold than a transition stripes. Yeah,
they're huge. So you said something to me to different
elevations and they didn't take up, which would have been
a good time for him to talk about the options.
And that's what you got to find out, Jimmy, whether
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you bring in another floor guy to take a look
at it, or you can have a good conversation with him.
Speaker 11 (41:17):
Just find a good record.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And that well, I don't know if they could have
used a floor leveler. I don't know if they should
have taken out the towel. There's a lot of things
I don't know and I can't see it. But you know,
what were my options here? This certainly could not have
been my only option, That's what I thought, And maybe
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there wasn't any other options. I mean, I'm not knocking
him either, but I think you need to have a
non threatening discussion of is there anything I can do
about this?
Speaker 11 (41:55):
His answer was no, that's the way everybody does it. Yeah,
I just I didn't know if we had done ahead
of time.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, is this a local guy that does this or
is this a big box store that does this and
works on you know, this.
Speaker 11 (42:12):
Was an independent contract born again Christian. That's why.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Well, and he may be right, that's why I said,
I want to sit here and tear him apart. I
can't even see what the job is, but I I
think what I might do. Again, I don't know the
lay of the land, but this is what I might do.
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You know, he's pretty much giving you his answer. His
answer is no, this is the way this gets done,
and that's that's done. And when you have that elevation
or whatever, that may be exactly correct. However, maybe that
tile should have been pulled up, maybe there should have
been a floor leveler used on.
Speaker 11 (42:58):
That asked could it not be ground down or something?
And may you know or it wouldn't be so big? Yeah,
but I didn't know. I thought maybe you'd heard this
question before.
Speaker 10 (43:09):
No, no.
Speaker 11 (43:12):
Urgent. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I think one of the things, one of the things
I think I would do is I would contact I
would go to a local flooring company and I would
just say, listen, I had this, uh, this remodel done
in my home, and I'm going to have I'm having
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conversations with it. I need a consultant. I need somebody
to look at this and tell me what else could
have been done, because he obviously did it the way
he's going to do it, and that may have been
the only option. I'm not saying that he screwed this up,
but you're not happy. So maybe we get an independent
flooring person out there to take a look at and
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see what can still be done or what should have
been done, and then we can go there. I think
that's a really fair way about doing it. I'll take
your input on that too. Our phone number is eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five and John
Tom Chuck. We've got a whole another hour to take
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
That me.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yes, sir, all.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Right, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I got a Climate Master air Conditioning unit deiothermal water
dripping off of the vents in my back room and
the bathroom hasn't been used for showering for approximately two weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But there's still cold air being pumped through that pipe. Correct, correct? Okay,
I think I got.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
By humidity issues since we had the unit put in.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, I think we're just going to go back to
that whole condensation issue. Do you know where that is
that pipe run up in the attic? And then my
question is is that pat pipe insulated?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm supposed to be insulated.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It was.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It's all a flex duct, is what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, can they put the unity in?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Which I didn't care for, but that's what I got.
Uh unit is an attic. My my attic is all
the blown not blown? What's the on the rafters?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah? Okay, the phone you're talking? Okay, So I mean
it's not really that hot up there.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's just high humidity issues all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, I'll tell you right now. Even if it's an
insulated pipe, you know, even if there's a little you know,
maybe not fitted real tight or anything. That addict is
probably a hundred anywhere from one hundred and ten to
one hundred and fifty degrees, depending on whether it's properly ventilated.
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So even a well ventilated addic when it's ninety degrees,
it's probably gonna be a one hundred and five hundred
and ten degrees pumping cold air through it. If there's
any metal, even the housing of that fan, if not
protected from that heat, will cause condensation on it and
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could drip through. That's that's my guess what's going on.
I mean, you have to get up there and take
a look, but that's my guess what's going on. Yeah,
there's some metal that's exposed to that heat that's got
cold air in it. The hot air's got more water contented.
(04:10):
It hits that cold steel and it just sheds the moisture. Okay,
so we'll do some looking there. You go, all right,
Good luck, Mark, I appreciate it, you bet, take care,
Bye bye. I think we're kind of getting in this.
One of the great things I've been doing a show
for thirty nine years. One of the things I really
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appreciated your calls because it really it really kind of
gives you a snapshot. You're not the only one Mark
that's having that problem. Think of the calls that we've
had today on condensation. I was totally not thinking today
would be a discussion on condensation. As I look now,
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it makes total sense that we're getting a lot of
those calls. But you know, this time of a year,
we'd normally be getting a lot of paint questions, a
lot of fix the driveway questions, questions, yeah, a lot
of stained the deck questions. And I think we can
all say it's probably a little too hot to be
doing that work anyway. And then all of a sudden,
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you know, there's work around our homes that is it
has to be done. It's maintenance, maintenance, and then there's
oh my gosh projects something broke, or then there's the
oh my gosh, I got to fix this project and
condensation would fall there. What's causing it, where's the why,
(05:35):
and let's get that, you know, taking care of if
we can, if we can find that source. But it's
been interesting taking those calls that I've enjoyed it. I
hope you have two and if you'd like to join us,
do so. It's eight hundred eighty two three eight two
five five, let's go to Pat Pat Welcome.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, hi Gary, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You bet I have uh, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah. So I have a brick on the front of
my house and there's basically an upstairs you know, a
large window and downstairs large window, and what they have
done is put a wood accent basically between the two windows.
And every couple of years I end up having to
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paint this thing because it gets moisture behind it and
the paint peels and it just doesn't look good. So
I'm wondering, is there are way so I can keep
the moisture from coming and then maybe use like some
kind of composite wood or something like that so I
don't have to paint this thing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Everything. Well, you can always use a composite wood. You
set a wood accent between two windows, and you have
a brick house. Can you give me a little more
details of how that would where's that wood accent head?
Is it right over the brick?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's just basically it's just between the two windows, the
first you know, the first floor and second floor window.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, it's kind of like a a trim for a
header board or something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, But it's about I don't know, it's probably about
three or four feet tall by about you know the
length of the window, so the windows are probably like
eight ten feet.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Is it wood siding or what kind of wood is it?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
No, it's just regular wood, like like plywood. And then
they put like a little almost like a trim to
highlight though.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. So my question to you, Pad is where do
you think that How do you think that moisture is
getting behind that piece of wood?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know. Yeah, that's where our answer is gonna
lie though. So one of the things I'm concerned about
is is it getting between the brick and the wood
or is it getting it could be further up on
the brick wall where it's actually going behind the brick,
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and then it's I don't know if that wood has
brick behind it and it's bleeding through or it's not
even there where that moisture could be wetting the backside
of that wood that panel if it's just decorative. To
answer the question, you could get like a an AzaC siding,
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which would be like a composite siding installed, but it's
still if it's moisture is coming out from the brick
or nothing, you know, further up on that brick wall,
either the brick's not sealed or some of the mortar's missing,
or at the top of the window, and it's finding
its way to that source, to that area. We almost
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got to figure out where that moisture's coming from. Otherwise,
even if you put a composite up, I'd be a
little concerned about mold infiltrating into the house. Right right,
So I guess I was gonna say it almost starts
with pulling that yeah behind it, Yeah, yeah, it almost
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comes out. There's a house across the street from us.
They had that stucco, that synthetic stucco, and they were
tearing that off. The house was twenty five years old
and the header beam was all moldy and rotten, so
they were obviously and it was the problem from the
window that was getting down in there. And I'm sure
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it starts smelling the house or something. When they tore
that synthetic stucco off, you could see what the problem.
You know, that the wood was rotting and it was black,
and it was moldy, and I'm sure it was from
the window, and I'm sure they took care of it,
but they I'm sure they didn't know until they took
that off, right right, Okay, So I think that's the
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investigat that's gotta happen, be honest with you. It could
be something as simple as just the window is, you know,
not cocked, or that clocking has, you know, deteriorate a
little and water is getting behind there, and you know
that wood is unpainted and unprimed on the back, and
it's just wicking that moisture in there, and then the
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paint fails of course, right a right, okay, all.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Right, all right, well at least i'll have something we'll
go with.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's hard to track down, but I hear you.
I think you're gonna end up pulling that wood and
see what's going on. Thank you much for the call, Chris.
I appreciate it, and let's take a little break. We'll
come back and we'll have Chris, I'm sorry, and Susan
and Joe. If you'd like to join us, we've got
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and you're at home with Gary Sullivan. That's what we're
working on, is the home, little maintenance and repair, preparing
for the season. And well, we got plenty of tips.
We also got plenty of calls, so we gravitate to
the calls. And by the way, we'll have a whole
nother hour after this. It'll be uninterrupted, just you and me,
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no guests today. And I figured there was plenty to
talk about when we start talking about energy bills, and
then we got in all kinds of condensations. So glad
we played that out. Yes, all right, let's go to Chris.
Chris welcome.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, yeah, sir, here's the question. And my house was
built in nineteen eighty seven, and at the time it's
a typical four bedroom, two story Ryland build it so
there's only two million just like it. It's a brick
veneer on the bottom and siding on the top. And
at the time when they built it, they sold me
what they called was the Premium insulation package, and it
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has I guess, the tie back on the outside and
then the bats of insulation in the walls and then
on top of the studs in the inside. They put
It came in four by eight sheets, just like drywall,
one in sticks styrofoam over all the exterior walls and
anything leading out into the garage and all that stuff.
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And I was wondering, should that be sufficient to keep
the cold out? Or is there something better that I
could do? Now the wall's never seen cold or anything.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But I would yeah, not say, you know, things change.
I would say that's good technology. I mean, you know,
if you went back to nineteen seventy seven, we didn't
even have that, so you know, you're out of the
game now today, you know, if you hit the premium
(15:39):
insulation package. I don't know this, I'm making this up.
I would say it's probably a foam insulation and it's
probably you know, to EPA standards of an R nineteen.
I don't know what your thicknesses of the the Tievax. Great,
(16:01):
that's kind of like gore Tex. Okay, so that's gonna
minimize or eliminate water from going in, but it can
breathe and let water out, which there probably won't be
much because then we got that, you know, insulation, and
then you've got batting of insulation, so you got two
types of insulation. Side by side or back to back,
(16:24):
I should say yes, okay, and so on that insulation
with the panels as you described them, there should be
an R value on that panel. I don't know what
it is. It depends on the thickness. You might even
be able.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
To look at the one inch one inch.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm guessing R five. Maybe you
can look it up. Yeah, probably it's probably about five
somewhere there. It's a little better than than like a fiberglass,
so somewhere between R four and a R seven probably,
but I don't think it Probably in R five back there.
And then what do you have like three and a
(17:10):
half inch? So that would be.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
I get the bad inslation? Would that be what they?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, so you probably you're probably around R twelve. I
mean that's not bad. I mean the standard now is
R nineteen, but I mean it's I'm guessing you probably
got about an R twelve in there, and you know
that's that's that's probably nineteen eighty seven standard. And I'm
(17:41):
not sure you're going to do much about that. You
can use foam inslation, I'm not I'm not saying it's
going to be worth the price. I don't. But you
can compress that and replace it with you wouldn't replace it.
(18:02):
You can impress that with pressurized foam, and that would
add some our value and it would eliminate draft. Because
it's an expandable foam. It searches for cavities. Yeah, if
it's me, I'd probably concentrate amatic insallation. I think your
wall insallation's fine.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
That's what I was going to have done, was have
that because that insulation is blown in. It's been there
forty years, so it settled something.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, it's probably under under recommendation for our values. It's accessible.
You can blow it on top and you'll notice a
big difference. You really will, even in the sound of
the house. I think That's where I'd spend my money too.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
As far as the drafts, one thing you recommended with
those little foam inserts that you put around your outlets
and switches, What a big difference that makes BELIEB never noticed.
So you're really right against an outlet or a switch
on an experior. Well, how much air is pouring injury.
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eight hundred eight two three eight two five five Susan Welcome.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
Thank Gary. I live in a condo and I'm adjacent
to the laundry room, and for it's been probably the
last eight years this time of year, when it's hot
and humid, I'm getting strong perfume smells in my unit
through the I noticed you mentioned the phone to put
in your outlets. Some of it's coming through the outlets.
(23:31):
I'm I've talked to building management several years and I
don't get any satisfaction. They The last thing they told
me was that it's it's to be expected this time
of year when I'm next to the laundry room. And
I just don't think those smells should be in the wall.
And they have had the drier people check the events
(23:52):
and they don't see anything. My question is it's only
it only happens when the dryer is on. But if
there are cracks in the walls or like where the
vents go into the wall, that's not cock So there's
like a half inch space there. Can it be getting
just from the room into the wall.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Or would it have to be so if you're not
and this is is this a communal laundry room where several.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
And also that there are four floors above me and
each floor also has a resom so it eats on
the roof.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right, So when you walk in the laundry room, does
that have that same smell?
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Yes? And they're not air conditioned. So Okay, it's very
hard and human and very strong smelling.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah. Well, so the question is what can.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
It get into the wall?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Just from sure?
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Yeah, so I could ask them to cok around the vent.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't know if you're going to stop it, but
I don't really know. I think the cause of quite honestly,
is it's not air conditioned. That in itself is going
to you know, I mean the outdoor humidity where I'm
at right now is seventy eight percent. I just looked
at it. It's eighty seven degrees seventy eight percent humidity.
(25:20):
If it's not air conditioned, that air is not going
to be fresh. I mean, you're you're going to smell moisture.
So in a way, when they say it's to be
expected this time of year, you know it's to be
expected this time of year if it's not air conditioned.
I think that's probably true, and I understand that that's
(25:43):
not pleasant. So, you know, ken those little foam things
around the outlets help. Yeah, maybe a little bit can
calking around that dryer event where it goes through the wall.
Can that help? Yeah? Yeah, certainly keep some of the
eat out If nothing else I don't know. If I
probably wouldn't use calking, I'd probably use like an expandable foam.
(26:07):
If there's they're used pretty much so there's plenty of
water going down the drain pipe, so it's probably not
a problem there. I think it's just really hot, humid,
stagnan air that's just infiltrating.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
But is it coming? I thought maybe that there was
some kind of a leak in the ducks, that's in
the deck work, that's in the wall. Maybe, but would
they be able to They supposedly have checked, and there's
also a fan to draw it up. But where I'm
on the first floor, I wondered, does that make sense
that it would be worse.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Well, I don't know if it would be worse. If
it's damp, air is heavier, so that would settle to
a first floor, but warm air rises, so that would
be so my guess is it probably bounces out. Have
you talked to people above you? Do they still have
(27:06):
the same problem.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
In the past? I have, but they're new people. I
guess I need to ask them again.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The other people were having the same problem.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
They know they weren't, but they but they Some people
don't notice smells as much as I do, well I do.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
People have different tous on that. I totally agree.
Speaker 10 (27:27):
And I think in the year that it started, they
replaced the washers and dryers and that was bleef February,
and it was that spring that I started, when it
started getting hard and human that I noticed it. And
that's why I just wondered about the ducks in the
wall and everything. But well, they can if they can see,
(27:47):
do they use cameras to check those or what.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You could use a camera to check those? And another
thing is washers and dryers also there, especially the washers
it's a closed plumbing system, okay. And also the gasket
around the wash machine it stays moist, so it could
be some molds and mildews. That's also just creating that odor.
(28:12):
And you know odors. You know, if if you're with
that common wall with a with it the the the
the washroom, that could certainly be the problem too.
Speaker 10 (28:27):
But it's when it's only when the that I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Does they clean the filters on those at all?
Speaker 10 (28:37):
I think, Well, they told me that the company was
coming out to check things, so I assume that they
do that. But I just I was also concerned if
the if the smelder in the wall, does that mean
that there's dampness in the wall too, and can mold
be a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
In the world. Well, possibly, yeah, I mean it's possible.
We don't know that. So, I mean, you know, if
it's exhausting and that pipe isn't connected all the way
and it's putting that damp hot air in that pipe,
it's gonna smell and it could cause mold. Whether that's
going on, I can't say.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
Yeah, okay, but does their move toward higher or lower
humidity because I've been running my air conditioning more than
I normally would, just to keep the humidity as low
as I can, which I think helps.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, So the best do youmidifier that you can use
is air conditioning. That's what air conditioning is. It's deumidification
of the air.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
But with the fumes. Then not move toward my apartment
if if it were.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Lows are there regardless, if you have a common wall,
they're they're regardless.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
But it's weird. But I also get it on the
other side of my union in my kitchen. It's traveling
through my wall and coming out that outlet. But okay, well,
I can try those.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah. I mean, if it's coming from uh you know,
the where the washer and dryer is, and you're sure
that and you know it's not air conditioned, it's probably
a lot of warm, hot air with a lot of
humidity in it that's in the wall and creating some odor.
(30:19):
I don't know how you eliminate that. I guess you
could put or they could put a deumidifier in the
washroom and that'll pull some humidity out of the the air. Again,
I don't know if that's really going to totally solve
the problem. But the whole issue is, you know, you
(30:41):
got this room that has got a lot of humidity
and it's going to create an odor.
Speaker 10 (30:47):
Okay, even this supposedly was a firewall between me and that,
but the building's forty years old. I don't know if
things settle and crack or whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, sure does.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Okay, Well, I appreciate the information, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I know it's not super helpful, but I think it's
kind of the it's the lay of the land that
that's what you have. That is it is a problem,
and the problem is the way it's constructed and those
those smells, especially if it's an adjoining wall. You're going
(31:20):
to share the smells just like you enjoyed. You join
the wall, all right, Joe, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Hi Gary, thank you for taking my call. I have
I have a couple an unusual pest Lazarus lizards. Have
you heard of those or how?
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I'm familiar with them, but I don't know how to
control them.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
So I currently have three of them. I called a
couple of pest companies around here.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But yeah, don't deal with those.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Do you have anybody like any recommendations or any secret
formulas that you can give me?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
No, but I can look them up during the break
and maybe I can find something for you. I I
really don't have an answer for that. For folks that
don't know what we're talking about, Joe, it's pretty The
Lazars lizards were imported to Cincinnati by a Lazarus last
(32:19):
name Lazarus, and there you find them in Cincinnati. I
can't even tell you their original They originated in what
in the Caribbean or Florida somewhere here, so they're not
native to the Cincinnati area. But let me look something up.
If I have anything, I'll lead off the next segment
(32:41):
with it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Okay, awesome. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
You bet take care. Bye bye, and folks, if you
have some remedy to chase the Lazarus lizards away, I'm
sure there's another name. That's what they're referred to in
our hometown. You can share that with us. Our phone
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found probably more information you'd never want to know about
lazarus lizards. They're called the Italian wall lizards, and it
really talks. And how many times we've said this about
pest and ants and all that kind of stuff. So
(36:13):
managing the environment, that's step one. Need to manage the yard,
the surroundings. They thrive in warm, dry, rocky environments with
plenty of hiding splices. So here's the plan and what
they are. They're lizards, they're small, they're fast, they run
up and down brick walls and rock walls. They aren't harmful,
(36:37):
but remove the hiding spots. Okay, clear out rock piles,
firewood brush, dense ground cover, trim back shrubs. And I
can see where this would help immediately, especially near the
foundations for the shrubs. Seal the cracks and foundations and
patios because they can hide in those crevasses or crevices. However,
(37:04):
then they eat insects that's their diet, so reduce bugs. Spraying.
The pest control companies could take notice of that because
a quarterly plan of getting rid of bugs around your house.
Many I know friends that I have at one Stop
pest control. That's what they do. They have a quarterly
plan where they come out and spray around the foundations
(37:27):
and everything, which reduces the population of bugs. That's their
source of food. If you got outdoor lights, use the
old bug lights that keeps bugs away from the foundation
and keep the garbage, seal pet food in indoors. And
(37:51):
I don't know, let's see, Oh, let's see what else
we got here. Use repellents. There are commercial lizard repellents
usually containing sulfur that can help, or there's a homemade
remedy mixing garlic, onions and cayenne pepper and water and
spray around the entry points of vinegar and lime juice
(38:12):
also seems to work. Sticky traps that work. So there's
the long term control is I don't know if you
want to get into this. I think I try the repellence,
but talks about using over foundations, smooth siding or sheathing,
screen vents, and tightened door seals, so good weather stripping.
(38:38):
So anyway, that probably enough of that. There's a lot
of information, a lot of things to work on, for sure.
Let's go to Jimmy.
Speaker 12 (38:44):
Jimmy, welcome, thanks for taking my call. You bet you,
I'm gonna be breefed. I've just had a brand new
remodel in her house. Picked out a floor, looked beautiful,
They put it down and then come back and uh Gary,
they used these big, huge, what they call transsition scripts
(39:06):
and a couple of the rooms and they look terrible.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
They're incuation, you know what I'm talking about. There's a
whole bunch of different types.
Speaker 11 (39:16):
Though, well, these look horrible. They're like two inches wide.
And they said they had to do it because of
a difference in the elevation. They went from you know,
a concrete to a tile they didn't take up, and
I just didn't know. I didn't want to make the
contractor mad by telling them it looked horrible, but I
(39:37):
could see now they should have.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So where are you dealing with him?
Speaker 11 (39:49):
Well, they're through and gone and took their money, and
you know, I mean, they finished it and everything else
is just peachy. King. She's thrilled to death. But I
was hoping there was an other solution besides those big well,
the transition strips they.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Use, so there may have been. I don't know if
there is any more, Jimmy. If the job is done, that's.
Speaker 12 (40:12):
Right, that's what's going.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And that's why I asked, you know, where are you
with them? Because you know, I don't know where you're
going to get with this, to be honest with you,
But they certainly well.
Speaker 11 (40:24):
I mean, I don't mind that they're gone if I
have to pay for it to have it done where
it looks nicer, yeah, I mean her her whole brand new,
you know, I mean, you know, notne a big deal,
but a seventy tho thousand dollars Ray Model on three
four rooms, and then these big strips are there that
(40:44):
every time you walk in the round, you say them, So.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
It looks more like a threshold than a transition stripes. Yeah,
they're huge. So you said something to me to different
elevations and they didn't take up, which would have been
a good time for him to talk about the options.
And that's what you got to find out, Jimmy, whether
(41:09):
you bring in another floor guy to take a look
at it, or you can have a good conversation with him.
Speaker 11 (41:17):
Just find a good record.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
And that well, I don't know if they could have
used a floor leveler. I don't know if they should
have taken out the towel. There's a lot of things
I don't know and I can't see it. But you know,
what were my options here? This certainly could not have
been my only option, That's what I thought, And maybe
(41:39):
there wasn't any other options. I mean, I'm not knocking
him either, but I think you need to have a
non threatening discussion of is there anything I can do
about this?
Speaker 11 (41:55):
His answer was no, that's the way everybody does it. Yeah,
I just I didn't know if we had done ahead
of time.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, is this a local guy that does this or
is this a big box store that does this and
works on you know, this.
Speaker 11 (42:12):
Was an independent contract born again Christian. That's why.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Well, and he may be right, that's why I said,
I want to sit here and tear him apart. I
can't even see what the job is, but I I
think what I might do. Again, I don't know the
lay of the land, but this is what I might do.
(42:36):
You know, he's pretty much giving you his answer. His
answer is no, this is the way this gets done,
and that's that's done. And when you have that elevation
or whatever, that may be exactly correct. However, maybe that
tile should have been pulled up, maybe there should have
been a floor leveler used on.
Speaker 11 (42:58):
That asked could it not be ground down or something?
And may you know or it wouldn't be so big? Yeah,
but I didn't know. I thought maybe you'd heard this
question before.
Speaker 10 (43:09):
No, no.
Speaker 11 (43:12):
Urgent. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I think one of the things, one of the things
I think I would do is I would contact I
would go to a local flooring company and I would
just say, listen, I had this, uh, this remodel done
in my home, and I'm going to have I'm having
(43:34):
conversations with it. I need a consultant. I need somebody
to look at this and tell me what else could
have been done, because he obviously did it the way
he's going to do it, and that may have been
the only option. I'm not saying that he screwed this up,
but you're not happy. So maybe we get an independent
flooring person out there to take a look at and
(43:55):
see what can still be done or what should have
been done, and then we can go there. I think
that's a really fair way about doing it. I'll take
your input on that too. Our phone number is eight
hundred eight two three eight two five five and John
Tom Chuck. We've got a whole another hour to take
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