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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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few things done around the home. Happy to have you,
and yesterday very busy day. In fact, we ended up
talking a lot about compensation. It's kind of surprised me.
It's been hot and human a lot different parts of
the country, and you know, with HVAC systems and metal
(01:18):
duckwork and bathroom fans, we seem to have commensation in
different parts of the house, even the windows, some water
droplets on that and certainly we can take those calls.
Once again, it's kind of a problem right now in
a lot of parts of the country. So our phone
number is eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
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Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. You
can jump on board. We're also going to talk a
little bit about Yeah, with the heating different parts of
the country.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Good.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I was thinking, you know, school's going to start one
I don't know, a couple couple well, maybe not in
a couple months, maybe in a month, you know, anywhere
from four to six weeks, and we'll slowly transition back indoors,
not all the time. But I guess where I'm going
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with that is you might want to spruce up the
inside of your home while it's real hot on the
outside of your home now would be a good time
to consider a little painting. And I'd like to talk
a little bit about paints and also tools for painting
and how important it is to invest in quality there
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and it truly is because paints have diesel PiZZ The
technology and paints has just increased so much over the
last twenty years, and they last so long, and they're
so fade resistance, they're so scrubbable. But I'd like to
talk a little bit about that. So if you have
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any questions regarding paints, happy to take those calls, that's
for sure. We're also going to talk about stains, maybe
the built in desk, or maybe just the desk, or
maybe the handrails, maybe they're just getting worn, and you're thinking,
what do I need to do here? Do I restank?
Can I restank? Can I revarnish? Should I paint them? Well,
(03:17):
we can kind of ask a few questions and get
you some advice on going that route. Also, I see
that happening in a lot of homes. And then we're
also going to talk about since it will I have noticed, Danny, boy,
have you noticed it's getting a little darker at night?
Just a wee bit, maybe like ten minutes, fifteen minutes.
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You can just tell, yep, you can just tell. It's
in our town and dead a summer, you know it's
stayed light till nine thirty or maybe a bump later,
but now it's about nine o'clock somewhere in that general area,
but certainly noticeable. So we're going to talk about outdoor lighting.
I also, you see it as much as I do too,
(04:01):
how it's really being incorporated in a lot of home landscapes.
And there's some really beautiful stuff out there, stuff lighting
that even changes colors. You've seen non commercial buildings where
it does that. Also, Chris McCoy from Haven Lighting will
be joining us. I want to find out really what's
(04:23):
new in lighting, and he's kind of leaning the way
his lighting systems are cloud based and we'll explain what
that is. But it's led lighting. It's not horribly expensive
to operated around your home, so that's another option we'll
talk about. So let me give you the phone number
and then we'll kind of get rolling. It is eight
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hundred eight two three eight two five five. Danie'll take
your call and we'll chat about what you're working on. Listen,
when you are painting inside, it's really important. Again, I
mentioned the applicators, and if you were going to make
a choice on where to save money, am I going
to save money on the paint or the applicators? At
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this point in the ballgame, I'd say you better off
saving a little money on the paint. The paints that
are out there, your average paint, indoor wall paint is probably,
you know, significantly better than it was just five to
ten years ago. So what I'm saying is the middle
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price range of paints depending on what you're doing. I mean,
there's a place for all these paints, but depending on
what you're doing, a good middle range price for interior
paint is going to serve you very well. I would
still like to see you use the better, but if
you decide to use the average, you won't be disappointed.
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But the tools themselves, the roller covers, the brushes, don't
don't go cheap on that. I'd rather see you buy
less expensive paint than and cheap applicators. That's really gonna
dictate the type of finish you're going to lay down
on a wall. And the roller covers especially, you go
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in maybe discount stores or something like that, they got
a roller cover for a buck, buck and a half
and you take that thing out of that plastic sleeve
and I mean they're just not thick. There's not enough
fiber on that roller and you take your hands and
just start pulling it, it'll it'll detach. I was in
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a factory a number of years ago. I watched them
make roller covers. It was kind of fascinating with the
fabric and they just spin it around the cardboard tube
and even the cardboard. The quality, the thickness, the durability
of that is so much different. So I'd rather see
you spend the five, six, maybe seven bucks on a
really good roller cover and with a lot of fabric
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and really lay down a good layer of paint on
those walls. Now, also, getting the right thickness of the
pile is important too. If you're just doing regular plaster
walls drywall walls, three aces of an inch pile is
probably more than enough. If you got a little textured drywall,
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you probably want to go up to a half inch.
If you're doing doors or something, or a real nice
smooth enamel, you'd probably go down to a quarter inch pile.
They come in different sizes, you know, quarter, three ace,
half inch. If you're doing a basement masonry wall, five
a's three quarter And you don't want to goof that
up because you start using a five ace pile roller
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cover on a smooth piece of drywall, it's going to
look like an orange. It's not going to be as
smooth as you want that. So getting a good quality
roller certainly key. All right, let's let Pat kick us
off today. Pat, welcome that.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Good morning, very hope your weekend's going well.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So far, so good.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Kind of question. I'm finishing up and I'm getting ready
to I had to redo a kitchen walls walls, and
that it was a pain and had to apply mud
paste to it and stand it down there are imperfections,
(08:26):
and I'm I'm probably going to go with the Sean Williams,
either Duration or Emerald, and there's slight imperfections and just
hearing what you were saying, does Emerald do a good
coating at hind and slight imperfections or does Duration?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And yeah, they both will. They're both heavy bodied paint
self priming. However, I don't I don't want to say, oh,
use this and I'll height imperfections. What what what really
makes imperfections stand out when you're painting a wall, Obviously
the quality of the paint. And you can't go wrong
(09:10):
with either one of those. I mean, they would do
as good as anything.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
What.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
They're both flat finishes, and that's really good if you
want to do as good a job of hiding imperfections
in a dry wall or plaster wall, the flatter the paint,
the better it will hide the imperfections. So sometimes the
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cheapest paint you can buy is the flattest, almost non scrubbable.
It has zerochine or very minimal machine and it doesn't
cause attention to the imperfections. The reason I say Duration
(10:02):
and Emerald will do such a good job, or for
that matter, any flat you got, you almost gotta go
real high or really cheap. And a lot of new
homes when they're first painted, they'll use you know, people
always can play oh it's just contractor grade paint. It's
cheap paint. The reason they do that is it really
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hides the drywall work. I mean, it's the first code
of paint. So we got the tape, we got probably
a couple things, and dense and the the the there's
different degrees of sheen even in a flat paint, but
the flattest paint you can get in again the duration
and Emerald has a couple of things going for it.
(10:47):
It is a very flat paint and it also is
a self priming, heavier body paint. So that's kind of
I'd put that up there at the top end. Bear
Products they got one to Bend Moore they got one also,
And then if you're not going to use that, probably
just just don't use a satin. Don't use anything that's
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that's got any kind of sheen at all, or it
will draw attention to it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, No, it's gonna be flat and it's in a
catching area. So I'm looking for something that's scrubble bolt.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yep, yep. It's amazing the scrubb ability of some of
these flat paints. They used to quite honestly years ago,
when you scrubbed down a flat paint, it would almost
burnish the paint. It polish the paint. You could see
where you scrubbed, and that's why people would use satin
in semi transparency. That doesn't happen anymore. That paint will
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not burnish when you're scrubbing is especially in your high ends.
Now in your lesser end paints that I was talking about,
the real, real cheap ones, those still will burnish. So
even if you bump up against the wall with your
genes on and maybe bump a little hard on here,
it'll actually polish that paint. So you'd be best going
with the Emerald or the duration. Either one will serve you.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, okay, with a three eighth inch or alf inch
half inch.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I would use if you got a little bit of
you know, bump here and there again, either one I
have to you know, have to tell you if it's
pretty smooth three ace, but if it's got some imperfections,
you might want to go with a with a half
inch and uh, you know, let the three a sit
on the sideline for a while.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay, on good advice and appreciate it, all.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Right, Pat, thanks for the call. All right, very good.
You can join us. We've got open lines. It's eight
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Twenty three minutes after the top of they are talking
a little indoor painting, and we could certainly chat about
outdoor painting also, but given some tips also when you're
making patches, as the fellow was talking about had used
some drywall mud trying to level things out, fix up
the wall, and was talking about, you know what type
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of paint it's going to hide imperfections. Well, the paint
really isn't going to hide imperfection as much as it's
not going to accent imperfections. And also if you're using
a patching compound or a topping compound. And I had
mentioned self priming paints the emerald and the duration, which
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is what the listener had mentioned those are Sherman William
grade paints, and I'd said it was kind of a
heavy bodied paint. One other thing which I didn't really add,
if you have some imperfections, I think it would be
because we want to build up the milliage of paint.
Of course, there will be some fill there, but a
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lot of different patches will cause what they call flashing.
It'll be a shiny even though you're painting over it,
it can be a little shinier than the actual flat wall.
So I would right commend putting a good drywall primer
or acrylic primer on that wall first, and then you
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use your self priming, drywall duration or emerald paint on
top of that. I do think that'll hold hid a
lot of the imperfections. And as I was talking about
in painting too, the quality of the tool has a
lot to do with it too. He was focused on
the pile, the depth of the fabric that's on the roller.
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He said, should I use three ace or half inch? Well,
half inch is going to lay a thicker amount of
paint on that drywall, So that'd be beneficial if there's
some imperfection or if there was some texture to it.
But It also goes back to the quality that I
was talking about. When you get into your five six,
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seven dollars roller covers that whether it's three ace quarter
inch or five ace, that fabric that's on there is
literally there's more fabric per square inch than there is
on the cheap stuff. That's the difference. All right, there's
other differences, but that's the main difference. So if you
use five ace, you know, two dollars roller cover, a
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lot of that pile when you're painting will probably come off,
not all of it, but some of it. You'll have
little hairs in the paint itself. A good quality roller cover,
oh my gosh, you're not going to have that problem.
You're going to lay down a smoother, thicker film on
that hiding imperfections. And the best part is is it
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washes out and you'll be able to use that again
and again and again. I mean, eventually it'll fail. But
it's not like a one time roller cover. I mean,
you'll never see a pro using cheap brushes or cheap covers,
or for that matter, even cheap paint. It's about time.
It's about labor and you know, and it's about quality.
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If you're a pro right and it should be the
same if we're going to do that project ourselves. And
I think that's one do it yourself project most of
us can always do. So you just got to get
the right you know, the right type of products and
go from there. All right, let me give you the
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have to be painting. If it is, that'd be great.
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Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right, back at it, We go at home with
Gary Sullivan taking well a little time to kind of
walk through an interior painting project. If you'd like to
join us, please do. It's eight hundred A two three
eight two five five. We've talked about different qualities of paint,
different quality of applicators, and then it comes down to
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the actual process. And I guess one of the things
I'll talk about a lot when I'm talking about interior
painting is quality products. You make such a difference if
you're one that maybe you're a little nervous about the
trimming putting on, you know, with a brush, or are
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you gonna use masking tape? Are you going to mask
the would work off? You ever watch a true professional painter,
Rarely do they ever use masking tape. I mean, their
ability to cut that trim in is just fantastic. They
do a great job. As you start thinking about maybe
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you got some windowcasing, maybe some crown molding. Maybe would
bookcases that butt up against the drywall you're gonna be
or base boards. Like I said, you're going to be
very careful, and maybe you're going to use masking tape.
And well, I see I talked about this in the past.
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There's a lot of real garbage out there. In fact,
the least expensive masking tape that you'll find in the
hardware store, maybe you'll find it in the paint department,
maybe you won't. But his brown masking tape, and if
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you look at the inside of that collar of that
brown masking tape, it'll say not to be used for painting. Huh.
And the reason for that is really it's looks like
masking tape. I don't know what qualifies it for masking tape,
but if you took a first of all, you should
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pay attention. If the role says not for painting, it
means not for painting. If you peel back some of
that masking tape off the roll, held it up in
the in the sunlight, you would see how inconsistent the
adhesive is on the back of that tape. In other words,
just not adhesive all the way across. It's botty. It
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looks like freckles. And when you put that on the
baseboard and you paint and you slop onto that masking tape,
there's a really really good chance it'll bleed right around
the edges of that and you'll still have paint on
the on the moldings. And then when you find masking
tape that is still brown in color or beige in color,
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and it's a little bit more than the other stuff,
it will it will be used for painting and it
will help stop the paint.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
However, if you've got work cut.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Out where you May. You're remodeling several rooms and you
mask for a couple of days that brown masking tape,
it dries and it leaves that adhesive. It crystallizes and
it's really difficult to get off, and it's got a
lifespan of about eight hours. Sometimes you lead it on
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overnight and you're gonna play. It's gonna be very difficult
to get off. Then you see the blue masking tape.
Then we're going up the ladder in prices. There's different
qualities of blue masking tape. There's different colors of blue
masking tape, but they're gonna last seven to fourteen days.
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Now we're talking good consistency of adhesive. It's not gonna
crystallize and be a dickens to get off woodwork. And
I'm off for that one. Then you've seen other ones,
yellow and green, the frog tape and stuff like that.
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Those are fine, they do a great job. They're probably
even more expensive than the blues. And what's it do well?
When you do like the frog tape the green and
you put it against the woodwork, you'll take a metal
putty knife and you'll kind of sear the end of
that masking tape, and it'll also when that latex water
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based paint hits it, it'll swell. It'll create a total
waterproof seam. So if you're using masking tape, I hope
you just paid attention, because you can really mess up
a paint job using the wrong type of tape. And
there's also different mechanical tools that you can use that
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all really trim out windows and crown molding or even
up against the ceiling. I'm sure you've seen the little
little pads with the wheels. There's an art using those.
I don't mind them. I kind of like them. I've
used them. Some people hate them. Here's where you get
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in trouble with them, or here's the proper way to
use them. How are we want to look at it.
You'll put that pad down in the pan with the paint,
and you will remove some of that paint from that pad.
You do not want to really to layer it up
if you will, and those wheels need to be kept
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paint free. You can't dip the whole pad in there,
and then that pad actually adjusts. The wheels would ride
on the ceiling. That pad would adjust up tightly, and
you'll not put a lot of pressure on. But you
will go across that wall. Now you don't do the
whole room at the same time, all right, you'll because
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it'll dry. And then when you come back and you
roll the wall wear that trim that you just did
with that pad. You're gonna have two coats on air
and one coat on the wall. You're going to see
the difference. So you want to paint what they call
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with a wet edge and you trim up there. Then
you take your roller and you roll into that and
you're trimming with a wet edge. Always when you're painting.
And I know the paints I just said how superior
they are. They are um, but keep it in the
back of your head self priming high quality paint. You
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want a really good paint job. Two coats, Okay, you'll
talk yourself out out of two coats or you'll try,
but I'm here to tell you it'll cover in one coat.
But if you really want that, like if you have
it like a dark olive or a sage paint, if
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you do one coat on that, you'll see shadows. You
do two coats on there, it'll look like Swede. It'll
look beautiful. Just plan on the second coat, it'll serve
you very well. And that trimming with that pad that
works fine, but always with a wet edge. So if
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you do a half of the wall, or the whole
wall from the wall to the ceiling, then you can
take your roller and you can just roll out that
whole wall. Don't do all four walls, or you're definitely
going to be in line for a second coat of
paint because you're going to have two coats on that
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on that upper part of that wall. I was just
thinking when I was talking about the trimming, how many
people I have one bedroom that does or bathroom that does.
I was just saying, how many people still have wallpaper border? Huh?
How many people like the wallpaper border? How many people
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have taken down wallpaper border? It's really dated. Now we
have an upstairs Jack and Joe bathroom and I know
in the tub area there nobody's up there right now,
but there is a border in there. Yes, scary. It
needs to come down.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Let me give you the phone number, happy to talk
to you about your painting project if you have one
going on, or you just want to make sure that
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well you're at home with Gary's we're talking a little
home improvement, maintenance repair today, chatting a little bit about painting.
Also going to talk about outdoor lighting in the next hour.
At the bottom of the next hour. You might find
that interesting and seeing a lot of that being incorporated
in our landscapes, and boy, some of its beautiful. Chris McCoy,
(35:21):
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the meantime.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Let's get to the phone calls. We've got Bob, Bob.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Welcome, Hey, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Doing good? Thanks good?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
I have a deck that's probably about ten years old.
So we've done fairly well as far as keeping the
stain on it. The last time that it was stained
was about two years ago with a solid gray stain,
and I had someone else to do it. I'd hired
it out and I just cleaned it this spring and
(35:55):
about half of it came off. So I've got about
fifty percent that show some stain on there, and i've
got about fifty percent that's showing would So I went
and talked to a local paint company close by here
and they said that I could just go over it.
But what I'm concerned about is if I go over it,
(36:16):
I'm going to have the same problem with the paint
or not the stain, with the stain that's already down
there right now. My wife kind of lights the way
it looks because it looks weathered. So she was wanting
to know if we could just go over it with
some kind of a ceiling, and I'm worried. I'm just
worried about what I'm getting into.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
I checked with a floor.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
Company to come that would want to come and stand
it all down, but it's pretty expensive.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's hard to stand down too, because those boards will
crown and cup and they're not always put in the
right way, and that becomes, you know, a nightmare. I
think take your wife out to dinner for saying it
could stay like it is. That's a good deal.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
However, what I'm worried, I know, what I'm worried about
is the actual board that doesn't have anything. What do
I need to do feel that?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, wellshine, it's a it's a good idea, but I
don't think it's the best idea. So here's here's the issue.
What will happen, obviously, is it will continue to peel.
(37:29):
There's all. There had to be some sort of lack
of preparation that's not allowing that to grip onto that
pressure treated wood. There's something from the from the get go.
So what's peels fined? It looks weathered. And then if
you don't put a ceiler, I mean you would have to.
(37:49):
If you put a seiler on there, it almost have
to be a clear ceiler. They do make a gray stealer,
so you but you'd you'd be really kind of touching
it up if you would. You wouldn't be able to
put that semi transparent over the solid color. So you'd
just be putting that on to give that pressure treated
(38:12):
wood some sun protection, so it would be by hand.
So I don't know if that's really I mean the yeah,
And you can go over the solid color stain, you
can go over it with solid color stain. But remember
when you go over the existing solid color stain with
(38:34):
solid color stain, the new stains only as good as
the stain underneath. Okay, So if you go to all
that work, will the will the will it delaminate where
the old stuff hasn't come off?
Speaker 8 (38:52):
So if I just give it another year or two, And.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, that's what I was thinking, I was thinking, she
kind of That's why I said take her to dinner.
That's a great idea. You know, you might be able
to buy a year or two if she likes that look,
and just see where it's going. It's it's going. The
worst case scenario is keep an eye on that wood
(39:17):
the sun. If it's a really sunny area, the sun
does dry that wood out, and if it starts having
the grain rays a little bit or the wood begins
to crack, I'd probably start taking action. But is it
just grays out, it's probably going to take a couple
of years for it to gray out before you start
(39:37):
seeing you know, splinters in it. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
The biggest problem I have is wintertime there's no sun.
Summertime I have all sun. So every spring I have
to clean the mold and mildew all.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, there's easy ways to do.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
Yeah, well the wet and forget. It's been really good
in space around the springtime.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah. So getting to the final solution. The final solution
is really either mechanically or chemically remove the rest of
the solid color stain. There's products you can paint over.
I've seen them come and go, I've seen them fail.
(40:22):
I would really look at stripping. There's deck strippers that
are out on the market, and you've got to remember
it's already not bonded very well. Even taking a pressure
washer not real high, but a twenty five degree nozzle
twenty four hundred psi at an angle, you might be
(40:43):
able to blow a lot more of that off if
you want to, and then use a deck stripper to
remove the west. That's the ultimate solution. Once you get
that all off and then decide whether you want to
go solid color stain. So I'm telling you not to
really go over and think it's going to be great,
(41:04):
so so remove as much you can then decide whether
you want to go solid color or semi transparent, and
then they're preparing that wood is really important, especially with
solid color stains, and there there's a deck brightener that's
on there. Even after using a stripper, it really opens
(41:24):
up the pores of the wood. Whether you're using semi
transparent or a solid color stand really helps cling onto
that wood. And there's even some companies now have deck
primers out there. Haven't really dabbled in those too much,
but those are out there now too.
Speaker 9 (41:42):
Very good.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
We thank you very much and have a great day.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Thank all right, you do the same.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
All right, let's go to Dick.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Dick welcome, Hello, Yes, how you doing doing fine? Thanks?
Speaker 9 (41:58):
So I have a similar problem. I built a house
about thirty years ago in solid stained seedar all over
the house, you know, the outside. So there's two problems. One,
five years ago, hailstorm came by and ravaged the west side,
(42:20):
so they replaced all the seed, and but then when
they came to paint it. I've been staining the house
with a solid stain for thirty years and they went
and they got paint and they covered my house and paint. Okay,
(42:41):
so there's the two problems. One is when they did
the brand new seater, they didn't prime the seedar even
though the paint they used as a two like a
primer slash paint.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, but on that label it also says not for
unprimed wood exactly.
Speaker 9 (43:04):
So that's one problem. And then the other is like
they went over the the old stain with this paint.
So five So just like this week, I had a
company come out and do the brand news seater, and
I asked them to scrape as much as they could
(43:25):
all the boards because the paint was holding pretty good.
But there was like it was almost like the paint
was getting thin and if I did scrape it, I
could get down to the wood. So they scraped a
bunch of it and primed whatever they you know, got
down to the wood and then coated it with the
(43:46):
same paint. And then the other seems to be holding
on to the to the stain. So I had just
curious what your take or what you would have done or.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Well, I think I think you know the the problem
where the mistake was made early and we're trying to
patch it in. And I think with what you're dealing with,
you know you're getting off all the loose paint you
possibly can repriming and then going over the existing paint,
(44:20):
and I think that's good. The only concern I have
is the transitional from the old paint to the new paint.
I know you got primer on the areas that you scraped.
I think that's a wonderful idea good acrylic bonding primer
and then for going over the existing paint. I don't
know what kind of paint you're going on the surface.
(44:43):
I would look at that Sherman Williams, Emerald or Duration.
It's it's breathable and it also will bond to an
old oil based paint. If that's what we're us.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Hope that helps.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
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few things done around the home. Happy to have you,
and yesterday very busy day. In fact, we ended up
talking a lot about compensation. It's kind of surprised me.
It's been hot and human a lot different parts of
the country, and you know, with HVAC systems and metal
(01:18):
duckwork and bathroom fans, we seem to have commensation in
different parts of the house, even the windows, some water
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Once again, it's kind of a problem right now in
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Speaker 2 (01:51):
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Speaker 1 (01:51):
I was thinking, you know, school's going to start one
I don't know, a couple couple well, maybe not in
a couple months, maybe in a month, you know, anywhere
from four to six weeks, and we'll slowly transition back indoors,
not all the time. But I guess where I'm going
(02:11):
with that is you might want to spruce up the
inside of your home while it's real hot on the
outside of your home now would be a good time
to consider a little painting. And I'd like to talk
a little bit about paints and also tools for painting
and how important it is to invest in quality there
(02:32):
and it truly is because paints have diesel PiZZ The
technology and paints has just increased so much over the
last twenty years, and they last so long, and they're
so fade resistance, they're so scrubbable. But I'd like to
talk a little bit about that. So if you have
(02:53):
any questions regarding paints, happy to take those calls, that's
for sure. We're also going to talk about stains, maybe
the built in desk, or maybe just the desk, or
maybe the handrails, maybe they're just getting worn, and you're thinking,
what do I need to do here? Do I restank?
Can I restank? Can I revarnish? Should I paint them? Well,
(03:17):
we can kind of ask a few questions and get
you some advice on going that route. Also, I see
that happening in a lot of homes. And then we're
also going to talk about since it will I have noticed, Danny, boy,
have you noticed it's getting a little darker at night?
Just a wee bit, maybe like ten minutes, fifteen minutes.
(03:39):
You can just tell, yep, you can just tell. It's
in our town and dead a summer, you know it's
stayed light till nine thirty or maybe a bump later,
but now it's about nine o'clock somewhere in that general area,
but certainly noticeable. So we're going to talk about outdoor lighting.
I also, you see it as much as I do too,
(04:01):
how it's really being incorporated in a lot of home landscapes.
And there's some really beautiful stuff out there, stuff lighting
that even changes colors. You've seen non commercial buildings where
it does that. Also, Chris McCoy from Haven Lighting will
be joining us. I want to find out really what's
(04:23):
new in lighting, and he's kind of leaning the way
his lighting systems are cloud based and we'll explain what
that is. But it's led lighting. It's not horribly expensive
to operated around your home, so that's another option we'll
talk about. So let me give you the phone number
and then we'll kind of get rolling. It is eight
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hundred eight two three eight two five five. Danie'll take
your call and we'll chat about what you're working on. Listen,
when you are painting inside, it's really important. Again, I
mentioned the applicators, and if you were going to make
a choice on where to save money, am I going
to save money on the paint or the applicators? At
(05:08):
this point in the ballgame, I'd say you better off
saving a little money on the paint. The paints that
are out there, your average paint, indoor wall paint is probably,
you know, significantly better than it was just five to
ten years ago. So what I'm saying is the middle
(05:29):
price range of paints depending on what you're doing. I mean,
there's a place for all these paints, but depending on
what you're doing, a good middle range price for interior
paint is going to serve you very well. I would
still like to see you use the better, but if
you decide to use the average, you won't be disappointed.
(05:49):
But the tools themselves, the roller covers, the brushes, don't
don't go cheap on that. I'd rather see you buy
less expensive paint than and cheap applicators. That's really gonna
dictate the type of finish you're going to lay down
on a wall. And the roller covers especially, you go
(06:11):
in maybe discount stores or something like that, they got
a roller cover for a buck, buck and a half
and you take that thing out of that plastic sleeve
and I mean they're just not thick. There's not enough
fiber on that roller and you take your hands and
just start pulling it, it'll it'll detach. I was in
(06:33):
a factory a number of years ago. I watched them
make roller covers. It was kind of fascinating with the
fabric and they just spin it around the cardboard tube
and even the cardboard. The quality, the thickness, the durability
of that is so much different. So I'd rather see
you spend the five, six, maybe seven bucks on a
really good roller cover and with a lot of fabric
(06:59):
and really lay down a good layer of paint on
those walls. Now, also, getting the right thickness of the
pile is important too. If you're just doing regular plaster
walls drywall walls, three aces of an inch pile is
probably more than enough. If you got a little textured drywall,
(07:21):
you probably want to go up to a half inch.
If you're doing doors or something, or a real nice
smooth enamel, you'd probably go down to a quarter inch pile.
They come in different sizes, you know, quarter, three ace,
half inch. If you're doing a basement masonry wall, five
a's three quarter And you don't want to goof that
up because you start using a five ace pile roller
(07:43):
cover on a smooth piece of drywall, it's going to
look like an orange. It's not going to be as
smooth as you want that. So getting a good quality
roller certainly key. All right, let's let Pat kick us
off today. Pat, welcome that.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Good morning, very hope your weekend's going well.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So far, so good.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Kind of question. I'm finishing up and I'm getting ready
to I had to redo a kitchen walls walls, and
that it was a pain and had to apply mud
paste to it and stand it down there are imperfections,
(08:26):
and I'm I'm probably going to go with the Sean Williams,
either Duration or Emerald, and there's slight imperfections and just
hearing what you were saying, does Emerald do a good
coating at hind and slight imperfections or does Duration?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And yeah, they both will. They're both heavy bodied paint
self priming. However, I don't I don't want to say, oh,
use this and I'll height imperfections. What what what really
makes imperfections stand out when you're painting a wall, Obviously
the quality of the paint. And you can't go wrong
(09:10):
with either one of those. I mean, they would do
as good as anything.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
What.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
They're both flat finishes, and that's really good if you
want to do as good a job of hiding imperfections
in a dry wall or plaster wall, the flatter the paint,
the better it will hide the imperfections. So sometimes the
(09:41):
cheapest paint you can buy is the flattest, almost non scrubbable.
It has zerochine or very minimal machine and it doesn't
cause attention to the imperfections. The reason I say Duration
(10:02):
and Emerald will do such a good job, or for
that matter, any flat you got, you almost gotta go
real high or really cheap. And a lot of new
homes when they're first painted, they'll use you know, people
always can play oh it's just contractor grade paint. It's
cheap paint. The reason they do that is it really
(10:24):
hides the drywall work. I mean, it's the first code
of paint. So we got the tape, we got probably
a couple things, and dense and the the the there's
different degrees of sheen even in a flat paint, but
the flattest paint you can get in again the duration
and Emerald has a couple of things going for it.
(10:47):
It is a very flat paint and it also is
a self priming, heavier body paint. So that's kind of
I'd put that up there at the top end. Bear
Products they got one to Bend Moore they got one also,
And then if you're not going to use that, probably
just just don't use a satin. Don't use anything that's
(11:11):
that's got any kind of sheen at all, or it
will draw attention to it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, No, it's gonna be flat and it's in a
catching area. So I'm looking for something that's scrubble bolt.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yep, yep. It's amazing the scrubb ability of some of
these flat paints. They used to quite honestly years ago,
when you scrubbed down a flat paint, it would almost
burnish the paint. It polish the paint. You could see
where you scrubbed, and that's why people would use satin
in semi transparency. That doesn't happen anymore. That paint will
(11:45):
not burnish when you're scrubbing is especially in your high ends.
Now in your lesser end paints that I was talking about,
the real, real cheap ones, those still will burnish. So
even if you bump up against the wall with your
genes on and maybe bump a little hard on here,
it'll actually polish that paint. So you'd be best going
with the Emerald or the duration. Either one will serve you.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, okay, with a three eighth inch or alf inch
half inch.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I would use if you got a little bit of
you know, bump here and there again, either one I
have to you know, have to tell you if it's
pretty smooth three ace, but if it's got some imperfections,
you might want to go with a with a half
inch and uh, you know, let the three a sit
on the sideline for a while.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay, on good advice and appreciate it, all.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Right, Pat, thanks for the call. All right, very good.
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Twenty three minutes after the top of they are talking
a little indoor painting, and we could certainly chat about
outdoor painting also, but given some tips also when you're
making patches, as the fellow was talking about had used
some drywall mud trying to level things out, fix up
the wall, and was talking about, you know what type
(16:00):
of paint it's going to hide imperfections. Well, the paint
really isn't going to hide imperfection as much as it's
not going to accent imperfections. And also if you're using
a patching compound or a topping compound. And I had
mentioned self priming paints the emerald and the duration, which
(16:25):
is what the listener had mentioned those are Sherman William
grade paints, and I'd said it was kind of a
heavy bodied paint. One other thing which I didn't really add,
if you have some imperfections, I think it would be
because we want to build up the milliage of paint.
Of course, there will be some fill there, but a
(16:48):
lot of different patches will cause what they call flashing.
It'll be a shiny even though you're painting over it,
it can be a little shinier than the actual flat wall.
So I would right commend putting a good drywall primer
or acrylic primer on that wall first, and then you
(17:10):
use your self priming, drywall duration or emerald paint on
top of that. I do think that'll hold hid a
lot of the imperfections. And as I was talking about
in painting too, the quality of the tool has a
lot to do with it too. He was focused on
the pile, the depth of the fabric that's on the roller.
(17:32):
He said, should I use three ace or half inch? Well,
half inch is going to lay a thicker amount of
paint on that drywall, So that'd be beneficial if there's
some imperfection or if there was some texture to it.
But It also goes back to the quality that I
was talking about. When you get into your five six,
(17:54):
seven dollars roller covers that whether it's three ace quarter
inch or five ace, that fabric that's on there is
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on the cheap stuff. That's the difference. All right, there's
other differences, but that's the main difference. So if you
use five ace, you know, two dollars roller cover, a
(18:18):
lot of that pile when you're painting will probably come off,
not all of it, but some of it. You'll have
little hairs in the paint itself. A good quality roller cover,
oh my gosh, you're not going to have that problem.
You're going to lay down a smoother, thicker film on
that hiding imperfections. And the best part is is it
(18:41):
washes out and you'll be able to use that again
and again and again. I mean, eventually it'll fail. But
it's not like a one time roller cover. I mean,
you'll never see a pro using cheap brushes or cheap covers,
or for that matter, even cheap paint. It's about time.
It's about labor and you know, and it's about quality.
(19:06):
If you're a pro right and it should be the
same if we're going to do that project ourselves. And
I think that's one do it yourself project most of
us can always do. So you just got to get
the right you know, the right type of products and
go from there. All right, let me give you the
phone number you can line up the calls. When we
(19:26):
come back, we'll talk to you about your project. Doesn't
have to be painting. If it is, that'd be great.
That's kind of what we're talking about a little bit
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Gary Sullivan taking well a little time to kind of
walk through an interior painting project. If you'd like to
join us, please do. It's eight hundred A two three
eight two five five. We've talked about different qualities of paint,
different quality of applicators, and then it comes down to
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the actual process. And I guess one of the things
I'll talk about a lot when I'm talking about interior
painting is quality products. You make such a difference if
you're one that maybe you're a little nervous about the
trimming putting on, you know, with a brush, or are
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you gonna use masking tape? Are you going to mask
the would work off? You ever watch a true professional painter,
Rarely do they ever use masking tape. I mean, their
ability to cut that trim in is just fantastic. They
do a great job. As you start thinking about maybe
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you got some windowcasing, maybe some crown molding. Maybe would
bookcases that butt up against the drywall you're gonna be
or base boards. Like I said, you're going to be
very careful, and maybe you're going to use masking tape.
And well, I see I talked about this in the past.
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There's a lot of real garbage out there. In fact,
the least expensive masking tape that you'll find in the
hardware store, maybe you'll find it in the paint department,
maybe you won't. But his brown masking tape, and if
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you look at the inside of that collar of that
brown masking tape, it'll say not to be used for painting. Huh.
And the reason for that is really it's looks like
masking tape. I don't know what qualifies it for masking tape,
but if you took a first of all, you should
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pay attention. If the role says not for painting, it
means not for painting. If you peel back some of
that masking tape off the roll, held it up in
the in the sunlight, you would see how inconsistent the
adhesive is on the back of that tape. In other words,
just not adhesive all the way across. It's botty. It
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looks like freckles. And when you put that on the
baseboard and you paint and you slop onto that masking tape,
there's a really really good chance it'll bleed right around
the edges of that and you'll still have paint on
the on the moldings. And then when you find masking
tape that is still brown in color or beige in color,
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and it's a little bit more than the other stuff,
it will it will be used for painting and it
will help stop the paint.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
However, if you've got work cut.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Out where you May. You're remodeling several rooms and you
mask for a couple of days that brown masking tape,
it dries and it leaves that adhesive. It crystallizes and
it's really difficult to get off, and it's got a
lifespan of about eight hours. Sometimes you lead it on
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overnight and you're gonna play. It's gonna be very difficult
to get off. Then you see the blue masking tape.
Then we're going up the ladder in prices. There's different
qualities of blue masking tape. There's different colors of blue
masking tape, but they're gonna last seven to fourteen days.
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Now we're talking good consistency of adhesive. It's not gonna
crystallize and be a dickens to get off woodwork. And
I'm off for that one. Then you've seen other ones,
yellow and green, the frog tape and stuff like that.
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Those are fine, they do a great job. They're probably
even more expensive than the blues. And what's it do well?
When you do like the frog tape the green and
you put it against the woodwork, you'll take a metal
putty knife and you'll kind of sear the end of
that masking tape, and it'll also when that latex water
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based paint hits it, it'll swell. It'll create a total
waterproof seam. So if you're using masking tape, I hope
you just paid attention, because you can really mess up
a paint job using the wrong type of tape. And
there's also different mechanical tools that you can use that
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all really trim out windows and crown molding or even
up against the ceiling. I'm sure you've seen the little
little pads with the wheels. There's an art using those.
I don't mind them. I kind of like them. I've
used them. Some people hate them. Here's where you get
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in trouble with them, or here's the proper way to
use them. How are we want to look at it.
You'll put that pad down in the pan with the paint,
and you will remove some of that paint from that pad.
You do not want to really to layer it up
if you will, and those wheels need to be kept
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paint free. You can't dip the whole pad in there,
and then that pad actually adjusts. The wheels would ride
on the ceiling. That pad would adjust up tightly, and
you'll not put a lot of pressure on. But you
will go across that wall. Now you don't do the
whole room at the same time, all right, you'll because
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it'll dry. And then when you come back and you
roll the wall wear that trim that you just did
with that pad. You're gonna have two coats on air
and one coat on the wall. You're going to see
the difference. So you want to paint what they call
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with a wet edge and you trim up there. Then
you take your roller and you roll into that and
you're trimming with a wet edge. Always when you're painting.
And I know the paints I just said how superior
they are. They are um, but keep it in the
back of your head self priming high quality paint. You
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want a really good paint job. Two coats, Okay, you'll
talk yourself out out of two coats or you'll try,
but I'm here to tell you it'll cover in one coat.
But if you really want that, like if you have
it like a dark olive or a sage paint, if
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you do one coat on that, you'll see shadows. You
do two coats on there, it'll look like Swede. It'll
look beautiful. Just plan on the second coat, it'll serve
you very well. And that trimming with that pad that
works fine, but always with a wet edge. So if
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you do a half of the wall, or the whole
wall from the wall to the ceiling, then you can
take your roller and you can just roll out that
whole wall. Don't do all four walls, or you're definitely
going to be in line for a second coat of
paint because you're going to have two coats on that
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on that upper part of that wall. I was just
thinking when I was talking about the trimming, how many
people I have one bedroom that does or bathroom that does.
I was just saying, how many people still have wallpaper border? Huh?
How many people like the wallpaper border? How many people
(31:06):
have taken down wallpaper border? It's really dated. Now we
have an upstairs Jack and Joe bathroom and I know
in the tub area there nobody's up there right now,
but there is a border in there. Yes, scary. It
needs to come down.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Let me give you the phone number, happy to talk
to you about your painting project if you have one
going on, or you just want to make sure that
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If you're not using a self priming paint'll it's a
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you have some issues with mold that'll that'll kind of
help keep it in check. Bathroom fan is still real important,
but every little bit of help we can get in
the area of molds and mildews that benefits us all right.
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Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well you're at home with Gary's we're talking a little
home improvement, maintenance repair today, chatting a little bit about painting.
Also going to talk about outdoor lighting in the next hour.
At the bottom of the next hour. You might find
that interesting and seeing a lot of that being incorporated
in our landscapes, and boy, some of its beautiful. Chris McCoy,
(35:21):
he is with Haven Lighting, will be joining us. In
the meantime.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Let's get to the phone calls. We've got Bob, Bob.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Welcome, Hey, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Doing good? Thanks good?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
I have a deck that's probably about ten years old.
So we've done fairly well as far as keeping the
stain on it. The last time that it was stained
was about two years ago with a solid gray stain,
and I had someone else to do it. I'd hired
it out and I just cleaned it this spring and
(35:55):
about half of it came off. So I've got about
fifty percent that show some stain on there, and i've
got about fifty percent that's showing would So I went
and talked to a local paint company close by here
and they said that I could just go over it.
But what I'm concerned about is if I go over it,
(36:16):
I'm going to have the same problem with the paint
or not the stain, with the stain that's already down
there right now. My wife kind of lights the way
it looks because it looks weathered. So she was wanting
to know if we could just go over it with
some kind of a ceiling, and I'm worried. I'm just
worried about what I'm getting into.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
I checked with a floor.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
Company to come that would want to come and stand
it all down, but it's pretty expensive.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's hard to stand down too, because those boards will
crown and cup and they're not always put in the
right way, and that becomes, you know, a nightmare. I
think take your wife out to dinner for saying it
could stay like it is. That's a good deal.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
However, what I'm worried, I know, what I'm worried about
is the actual board that doesn't have anything. What do
I need to do feel that?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, wellshine, it's a it's a good idea, but I
don't think it's the best idea. So here's here's the issue.
What will happen, obviously, is it will continue to peel.
(37:29):
There's all. There had to be some sort of lack
of preparation that's not allowing that to grip onto that
pressure treated wood. There's something from the from the get go.
So what's peels fined? It looks weathered. And then if
you don't put a ceiler, I mean you would have to.
(37:49):
If you put a seiler on there, it almost have
to be a clear ceiler. They do make a gray stealer,
so you but you'd you'd be really kind of touching
it up if you would. You wouldn't be able to
put that semi transparent over the solid color. So you'd
just be putting that on to give that pressure treated
(38:12):
wood some sun protection, so it would be by hand.
So I don't know if that's really I mean the yeah,
And you can go over the solid color stain, you
can go over it with solid color stain. But remember
when you go over the existing solid color stain with
(38:34):
solid color stain, the new stains only as good as
the stain underneath. Okay, So if you go to all
that work, will the will the will it delaminate where
the old stuff hasn't come off?
Speaker 8 (38:52):
So if I just give it another year or two, And.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, that's what I was thinking, I was thinking, she
kind of That's why I said take her to dinner.
That's a great idea. You know, you might be able
to buy a year or two if she likes that look,
and just see where it's going. It's it's going. The
worst case scenario is keep an eye on that wood
(39:17):
the sun. If it's a really sunny area, the sun
does dry that wood out, and if it starts having
the grain rays a little bit or the wood begins
to crack, I'd probably start taking action. But is it
just grays out, it's probably going to take a couple
of years for it to gray out before you start
(39:37):
seeing you know, splinters in it. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
The biggest problem I have is wintertime there's no sun.
Summertime I have all sun. So every spring I have
to clean the mold and mildew all.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, there's easy ways to do.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:54):
Yeah, well the wet and forget. It's been really good
in space around the springtime.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah. So getting to the final solution. The final solution
is really either mechanically or chemically remove the rest of
the solid color stain. There's products you can paint over.
I've seen them come and go, I've seen them fail.
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I would really look at stripping. There's deck strippers that
are out on the market, and you've got to remember
it's already not bonded very well. Even taking a pressure
washer not real high, but a twenty five degree nozzle
twenty four hundred psi at an angle, you might be
(40:43):
able to blow a lot more of that off if
you want to, and then use a deck stripper to
remove the west. That's the ultimate solution. Once you get
that all off and then decide whether you want to
go solid color stain. So I'm telling you not to
really go over and think it's going to be great,
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so so remove as much you can then decide whether
you want to go solid color or semi transparent, and
then they're preparing that wood is really important, especially with
solid color stains, and there there's a deck brightener that's
on there. Even after using a stripper, it really opens
(41:24):
up the pores of the wood. Whether you're using semi
transparent or a solid color stand really helps cling onto
that wood. And there's even some companies now have deck
primers out there. Haven't really dabbled in those too much,
but those are out there now too.
Speaker 9 (41:42):
Very good.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
We thank you very much and have a great day.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Thank all right, you do the same.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
All right, let's go to Dick.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Dick welcome, Hello, Yes, how you doing doing fine? Thanks?
Speaker 9 (41:58):
So I have a similar problem. I built a house
about thirty years ago in solid stained seedar all over
the house, you know, the outside. So there's two problems. One,
five years ago, hailstorm came by and ravaged the west side,
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so they replaced all the seed, and but then when
they came to paint it. I've been staining the house
with a solid stain for thirty years and they went
and they got paint and they covered my house and paint. Okay,
(42:41):
so there's the two problems. One is when they did
the brand new seater, they didn't prime the seedar even
though the paint they used as a two like a
primer slash paint.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, but on that label it also says not for
unprimed wood exactly.
Speaker 9 (43:04):
So that's one problem. And then the other is like
they went over the the old stain with this paint.
So five So just like this week, I had a
company come out and do the brand news seater, and
I asked them to scrape as much as they could
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all the boards because the paint was holding pretty good.
But there was like it was almost like the paint
was getting thin and if I did scrape it, I
could get down to the wood. So they scraped a
bunch of it and primed whatever they you know, got
down to the wood and then coated it with the
(43:46):
same paint. And then the other seems to be holding
on to the to the stain. So I had just
curious what your take or what you would have done or.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Well, I think I think you know the the problem
where the mistake was made early and we're trying to
patch it in. And I think with what you're dealing with,
you know you're getting off all the loose paint you
possibly can repriming and then going over the existing paint,
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and I think that's good. The only concern I have
is the transitional from the old paint to the new paint.
I know you got primer on the areas that you scraped.
I think that's a wonderful idea good acrylic bonding primer
and then for going over the existing paint. I don't
know what kind of paint you're going on the surface.
(44:43):
I would look at that Sherman Williams, Emerald or Duration.
It's it's breathable and it also will bond to an
old oil based paint. If that's what we're us.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Hope that helps.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
We'll continue at Home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
Help for your home is just a click away at
Garysullivan online dot com. This is at Home with Garysullivan.
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