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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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we're talking about your home projects and Bob you lead
us off this hour. Welcome. How about Bob? I did
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say something. Let's go to Frank. Frank, Welcome, Yes, how
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
My mom is a Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
There you go and we got a connection.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There but anyways, I was I got some pressure treated.
I'm glad if you're talking about just today. I got
the pressure treated, and I tried to uh forget once
you know, once you forget or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It is wet and forget, but it's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Not in the sunshine the deck and the steers, and
it doesn't seem to uh take an effect. And you
told me about something else I could use on it.
It was stronger, something oxygenated something or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, it's an oxygenated bleach. How long ago did you
put the wet and forget on there, Frank, Oh it was.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's I've tried it over the lash year of the
other I traded like three or four times or whatever.
There's no sun on that area. I think I think
the sun makes that work better or something.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, it needs it needs rain and it needs sunshine
to remain active. So yeah, if you want to switch gears,
there's actually there's some wonderful deck cleaning products out there
that contained an oxygenated bleach.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You know know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Uh it's it's a powder, it's mixed with water. It's
applied to the uh steps, the deck boards whatever. Allowed
to sit about ten minutes, take a a broom or
a scrub brush and just agitate it and rinse.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I made the strongest stuff whatever I can use, because
this is I'm a cop, and I put this up
probably about ten years.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Ago, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I never I was gonna wait and then paint it,
you know, because of the pressure treated and I never
got the paintment. So the thing's turning green. I got
allergy on it, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Okay, Well, the oxygen ad blade bleach is is a
total kill product. I mean, it will take care of it.
It'll you know, it'll kill the the the algae, the mold,
the mildew, and then you're just gonna let it dry
for a day or so and then apply whatever. Now
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you said paint, So my antenna went up there a
little bit. You is paint on pressure treated wood. I'd
really rather you use what they call solid color stain
uh more used on pressure treated wood. It looks just
like paint. You won't be able to tell the difference.
Comes in fifty sixty different colors and it's a solid.
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So using when you use that oxygenated cleaner, or go
to your local store get a deck cleaner, and then
get a deck brightener. The cleaner will clean off the
mold and mild doing stuff. The brightener is a really
important ingredient if you're using a solid color stain. It's
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an oxalic acid which will brighten the wood and it'll
more importantly open up the pores of the pressure treated
wood and that allow how solid color stains to grab
on and bite onto that wood, which is critical for
solid color stains.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, because I mean what because I've seen them make it.
It's like at home depot or something. They use like
a regular paint bass right for the base, and then
they put the colors in for the right right, you know,
for the cold pain paint colors or whatever. Ye, but
now how soon after say I use the oxygen maybe
bleach scrub it and you know I've done it before,
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you know, a year ago whatever they But I'm saying, like,
how shoon after can I actually use that? I'm gonna
have to use two more things after I use the
oxenated bleacher one.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Just one use the oxygen aid beat bleach and uh,
literally after you do that and it looks clean because
you're scrubbing this off, this is uh you know, this
is in real time. You know, no waiting allowed, so
you can come right back and then do the deck brightener,
which is again it's a mixture with water. It's applied,
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allowed to sit ten to fifteen minutes, scrub and rinse off,
and then you know, give it a give it a
day or two. On whatever product you pick, it'll say
when it can be stained, and it can be anywhere
from two hours to forty eight hours of being dry.
So you're just gonna depending on what product you get
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and what the base is, it'll tell you what the
you know, coating time should be after it's been cleaned
and wet.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It should be more than one code, just one on
for a while and then pay next year as well.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know. See that's the thing. There's just no definitive answers.
All these products are different now, I mean I was
just reading the DeFi, which is the one I talk
about a lot. They're new alcat acrylic is a two
code system or a one code system. Their original DeFi
was it two coat system. If he used a Bear product,
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that's a one coat system, so you you know, you
it's really different. The DeFi one is probably the newest
one that gets me because if you want it to
be flat and not shiny, you do one coat. If
you want a little bit of sheine to it, you
do two coats, which makes sense. That means that first
one's penetrating down in the wood. The second coats a
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little bit kind of laying on the surface, and that's
what makes it a sheene. And that's not a solid
color stain. That's the semi transparent. So that's the wood color.
So I'm going to guess that your solid color stains
for the most part will be a one coat system.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, yeah, because I mean, like you say, that'd be
a satin finish like the first one. Then you get
the gleam on the second one, right right, that makes sense.
I had done a shot of steers from my brother
and I had put on the paint. You know, I
don't know if I even waited, but it was. You know,
it's pressure treated. Some of it's ground pressure treated wood
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and some of it above.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Ground the ground contact and non ground contact, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And it's not a dry So I painted it and
I'll tell you that paintsment on me for twenty years
or something. It looks pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
And I'm all the time because of the never painted it,
but you know, right right, yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I appreciate your information on that.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Gary, You're quite welcome call anytime, Frank, thank you. Yeah.
The ground contact in non ground contact, you know, the
non ground contact has only really been out I'm going
to say eight years, so I don't know if that
was twenty years ago. But you gotta be really careful.
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I personally, I wouldn't use anything. If I'm buying pressure
treated wood, I don't care where it's going on that deck.
It's gonna be ground contact. Because what is ground contact?
Seems like it makes sense, right, Oh, maybe a post
it's gonna touch the ground. But in the fall, if
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you got big trees around your deck and all the
leaves fall and some of them fall in your deck
and it rains and they start breaking down and get slimey,
isn't that like ground contact? Sure it is, So you know,
ground contact, that's what you want. And for the folks
that are really concerned about Jason, I'm just replacing a
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border too, and you're telling me I'm gonna have to
wait a month or six months, depending on when it's
gonna absorb the water and they can stain it. There's
a solution to that. It's gonna cost a little more.
But kiln dried pressure treated would would be an answer.
It's pressure treated, then it's kiln dried. It can be
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Chris welcome.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I'm suffering from a chronic case of stupid that I've
suffered from many times through the years.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I agree I have too.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You can provide a cure for this bout of it.
I have a forty two inch fire pit pro pane
one know, out on the deck and all that, and
it had a you know, it's a metal top and
has the firre ring in the middle and all that stuff. Well,
what I did was I put a couple of bags
of those freezer packs that you put in a cooler,
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you know, to keep it cold. Well, unfortunately I forgot
that I left those there and with ninety five degree heat,
they leaked on that and and so it well there's
a perfect imprint of the bag now on that, and
it looks like it's a painted you know, a factory
painted surface on the top of that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
However, they would do that, And I was wondering if
I could use something like roller rock or something. I
don't know if that stuff can be used outdoors or
what would be the best way.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
So I can be used outdoors, it can be used outdoors.
So the top of the fire pit, is this a
masonry toppers of.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
It's a metal it's it's a I guess deal or
aluminum or something.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So the the blue bag is what's stained there?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Is that is that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, actually the liquid leak out there's these kind of
disposable ones more or less instead of the hard plastic
ones and that leak. You know, when I lifted the
bag up, it was gooey, and I thought, it's like
it's well, yes, yeah, exactly what it is and what
it looks like now on the surface is you know,
on wood furniture, if you left a glass on it,
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and you know, at least that little wax ring, it
looks like that, but it's it's a smooth but the
color is now gone. It was like a charcoal color,
maybe a lighter charcoal color top.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So what about just painting it?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well, I was I was wondering if that would be
a good alternative. I didn't know if U is there
a special kind of paint that I would use. One
thing I was kind of concerned about was since the
fire pit is in the middle of it, and that
you know, mostly head in the center of it, but
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you know, it does weigh about I guess, so there
is heat what I would use?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, so there is heat proof paint and and I
just don't know how hot that ring gets. You might
be able to answer that better than me, But there
is heat proof paint that goes up to like two
thousand degrees.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh, now, this is one of those things where the
surface never gets too hot to touch. Okay, you know,
all right, so you know it gets warm, but not.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Right Okay, So okay, so we don't have to worry
about a heat proof paint. So I would say paint
would be a good cover up. Then the next question
is is there a residue on there? In other words,
you know, preps always the key, So we want to
be sure that, you know, we're not going to paint
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something and then all of a sudden it starts peeling
because of that gel And I don't really know what's
even in that gel Or is that residue now dried
into that? Should we scrub it? Should we try to
clean it? Should we sand it? You know? So you're
gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I did scrub it, and so it is now,
you know, smooth, just like the rest of It's not
like there's any residue left or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, But what it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Looked like that did was just bleach the color out
of whatever the I guess the paint surface okay on that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, So i'man just.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
A certain type of paint that you would recommend.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, I would just think a good metal enamel, be
it a rustolium or sure when Williams makes it. You're
a thinge trimming enamel that can be used indoor and outdoors,
which is very hardy. It could be used on metal doors,
it can be used on woodwork. It's probably a much
better grade than the rustolium, but even a rustolium trimming
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amo would probably cover that up nicely.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Good.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
One other thing I wanted to say was, you know
a lot of people are talking about decks and I
got a deck put in a couple of years ago,
and I got that cap lumber stuff. Man, I wish
I would they had that years ago. Ipse off that
deck and it looks like brand new, no staining, know nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, And I'll tell you what. That's another thing, Chris. Honestly,
that's went through major transitions. I remember when Trek's first
came out with a composite, it wasn't capped, and you know,
after about five years it looked like steel slabs. It
just wasn't very attractive. Yeah, but you know, I mean
the transitions. Now the composites protected by this PVC cap.
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They have it with different polyproducts that are fade resistant.
I mean they are. They're phenomenal. They're not cheap, but
they're phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, it was. The material was almost one hundred and
fifty percent of what pressure treated laber would be.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, but from the.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Fact that you never have to do anything more expensive
to install.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But once they came with that CAP product, that whole
industry has changed to that. I mean it's it's all
going to CAP products. I mean the warning on that
stuff in twenty five years some people even twenty five
year on the product and twenty five year on the labor.
So very cool. All right, thank you much for the call.
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Speaker 7 (24:04):
I've got a question. I'm restoring an old one hundred
plus year old debt that has tongue and groove boards
on it. Ordinary three in an eighth five three quarter
inch boards, and a lot of them have rotted away
over the years. This is really old. Part of its exposed,
part of its covered parts is okay, the exposed parts,
(24:26):
A lot of it rotted away. So I did some
research and I found a kiln dried after treatment k
dat tongue and groove board at a local big box store.
And it's a pretty reasonable price. And I wondered if
you mentioned kill and dried pressure treated lumber a while ago.
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So that's what I'm looking at. Any comments, Do you
think it's a good material.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think it's a great material. I mean, sometimes it
can get kind of pricey, but you said it's kind
of been line and works for you. Yeah. So one
of the advantage of that is, quite honestly, is it
is kiln dride. Everything you talk we talk about today,
I think I could trace those problems back to it
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probably wasn't dry enough. Now I don't want to call
I don't want to tell all the callers that are
calling that they made a mistake, because I don't know
if they did or not. But my first inclination on
those calls today was I don't think you waited long enough.
I don't think you waited long enough. And so having
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that kiln dride really takes care of that issue. And
it's yeah, that's great.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Now I got I used a chat ept for some
advice on what to do with it, and they said,
priming it is you know already do priming. It is
a smart thing to do. Prime and think, I want
this to last for a long long time. So they
recommended three oil basics aterior wood primers, Benjamin More Fresh
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Start oil based primer, Sherwin Williams Exterior oil based wood primer,
and Zinger Cover Cover Stain oil based primer. So you
know they've got three products to recommend there. Then after that,
I wanted again to last. God, so the the They
said I could use water based exterior bonding pro No, no,
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never mind now that that's still on the primer. Uh,
there's is since tren Ohio and Kentucky. But I can
go across the river if I.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Can't, Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
The Yeah, for the paint itself, they're recogmending oil based
for best durability. So they've got to Benjamin More floor
and paint enamel lochine and a Sherwy Williams portion floor
floor enamel oil based, so those should be readily available
at the local stores. Any agree on those props?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I totally agree. And and you know, the one of
the really neat things, and that's what's generating a lot
of these issues where people are getting confused. If you're
looking for a primer or a top coat of anything,
oil base is going to outperform in terms of bonding
to the wood better than anything. Acrylics have a tendency
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to breathe. They also have a tendency to be a
little more fade resistant, but they don't bond as well
as an oil base. I don't care what anypie says.
They don't bond as well as an oil base. And
then you start getting into these new especially for decks,
not necessarily just floor paints. You start getting in these
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modified acrylic alkids, which is a combination of oil. They're
trying to get the best of both worlds. And those
are fine, but you're probably not going to find those
in a floor paint. You'll find them in a solid
color stain, but it won't be in a floor paint.
And you know, a bend more product to Sherman Williams
product that you're turning around. You're not gonna go wrong
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with those. And one of the things you might even
do too, is when you decide if you're gonna go
Ben Moore, you're gonna go Sherman Williams, take a look
at their finish coat, because they'll probably recommend the primary
and they'll probably be the same one that that AI
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kind of recommended too. But just double check that, because
they're kind of made to be a partnership, right, I mean,
where the zinzer's a little bit outside the box, it's
a great primer. But if you can get the primer
inside the same brand name as the finished coade, I
always feel like you know they're they're they're kind of
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a team, so don't split them up.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Okay, the next next the last part of this question.
In order to get to their point one hundred years old,
as I said, a fair quite a fair amount of
Joyce rotten, I'm replacing some beams under the joys and
even a little tricky thing where the they're part of
the poach has these big tall columns that support the
roof up above. Now I think I know what to do.
(29:08):
I'm real careful and methodical, but my wife thinks, and
I think she's probably right. It's a good idea to
get somebody to consult with about some of the fine
points to make sure I'm doing it right. Can you
recommend any sort of a consulting engineer consulting for a
homeowner that's doing building work where I can pay him
for her to come out and say, Okay, here's what
(29:29):
I need to accomplish, here's one proposal what I think
is the way to do it, and then pay them
for their expert advice.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Sure, So it would be a structural engineer. I don't
have a name of a company that you could go
to right away, but just google in your aerial structural engineers,
or if you have a you know, an independent lumber
yard where a lot of homebuilders get their wood packages from,
ask them some names of a structural engineer and you know,
(29:59):
I recommend they're just they're like a home inspector on steroids, right,
and they do that for individuals too. I think that
is a tremendous idea. I'd strongly recommend you to do
that in fact, and you don't even have to tell
them what your thoughts are. Let you know that that's
their specialty, and you know, whether you need to have
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some bracing and a little beam to support or not.
I mean they'll be able to do that load study
and give you the answers you need. I totally agree
with you.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Okay, good, last last one. Okay, I mentioned use chat
ept for advice. You just mentioned Googling. Of course, Googling
was there before the AI, you know, enhancements. But do
you use any or do you recommend any any particular
for projects to get you know, to get this chat ept.
Theay need is three or four pages on paint right
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and some other material. I was very impressed. It looks
really thorough and well thought.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
At sure no I mentioned Google out of force a habit. Yeah,
I used the chat GPT a lot, and of course
it didn't exist a year and a half ago, so
and I agree it's and one of the really neat things.
And from my standpoints, since I've been doing this so long,
so much of it it's like it's a reminder more
(31:22):
than like, oh I didn't know that, but it's kind
of a reminder. And you're right, you can get all
kinds of pages on it. I just in fact used
it in one of the brakes and just looked up
deck strippers just just because we were talking about it
and reading through it. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I'd
(31:44):
use it. Yeah, it's just fort I am, but I
said Google, but you're right.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Yeah, okay, good, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Gary, You're quite welcome. Take care. Call any time, all right.
Uh the phone number if you'd like to Jonas love
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We'll have another hour to go, so don't be nervous
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we go thirteen minutes before the top of the are
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little home improvement. And let's get back to the phone calls.
We'll go to Lois Lois Welcome.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
I used Latin forget outdoor on my driveway yesterday. I
had already power washed it and I turned it orange.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Hmm when I powerwash it, did you powerwash it before
or after you sing oh before before see used a powerwasher,
and then you sprayed to wed and forget on there
and then turned.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
The power powerwashing was done like two or three weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Okay, okay, But then I looked up.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
On their website and it says that it's a normal
temporary color change that occurs on some concrete surfaces right
after application. The color change insicates a good reaction between
the organic growth and wet and forget. The color will
disappear over time. But I think that you know that
(36:14):
I've never heard that happen or had anybody listen to
you that calls in. And I was very surprised, I thought,
you know, because you're standing there and it's just turning
orange right right.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Actually, I use it on my driveway of a stamp
concrete driveway which is old, and it's almost a maroon
when I first put it on there. So, yeah, it
does happen a lot of times.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
It's kind of scary, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of times, just the reaction
that the stuff were trying to kill, the mold, the
mildew and the algae. It's you know, rather than taking
six weeks to disappear. It's kind of its stage of death.
If you will, you know it's it's it's dying almost immediately.
Sometimes it also, especially with pavers, I've noticed it where
(37:08):
it'll turn almost like an orange, almost look like rust,
and it's from the minerals inside the pavers. Now it
probably works does that on concrete, but nothing to worry
about it. It will clear up at the very least. Maybe,
you know, if it's still like that, and you know
(37:29):
six weeks or two months later, might want to use
the pressure washer and just go ahead and clean that off.
It'll come off very easily. You shouldn't have to do that.
But in case it, you know, is still there, that's
what I don't.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Want to warn other people. So, yeah, it's possibility. And
you know, you're you're thinking that you're gonna make an
improvement and it looks worse for a while.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, I've had that question before in the past. Uh,
you know, and it does clear up. So it was
it on the label or did you look it up
and find it?
Speaker 8 (38:07):
No, I looked it up my mind. Okay, frequently asked questions.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I have to Yeah, another good resource here is for
other people listening to us lois Is on Facebook. They
have what they call wet and Forget crew that you
can follow, and you can it's their technical services people.
They answer questions right off the Facebook, probably within an
(38:31):
hour or two. And that's another good resource, but very not.
I don't want to say it's normal because it doesn't
happen all the time, but periodically it will happen.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
Okay, I guess got lucky.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You're the lucky one.
Speaker 8 (38:47):
All right, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Thank you, take care. All right, let's go to Bill.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Bill welcome, Hey, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You bet, I'm confused.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I got two ceiling fans in my house. I google
on which rotation they should go in the summer and
the winter, so I have them going the way that
the Google said. And now I get an alert from
ADEP and how to save energy. And they got me
turning turning in the opposite direction this time of year.
For forgetting the counterclockwise counter counterclockwise this time of year.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right now, here's another tip too, because counterclockwise is the
way a ceiling fan should go in the summertime, clockwise
in the wintertime. I too, get confused or forget from
one season to the next. But Danny and I were
talking about this actually earlier today. That's why it's right
at the tip of my tongue. A really good way
(39:47):
to take uh to know instead of remember that clockwise
or counterclockwise is when you turn it on, stand underneath
a fan, okay, okay, and in in the summertime, you
should feel the air blowing right down on you. You stand
right uneath the fan. You should feel it because what
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you're doing is you're trying to create a wind chill, right,
you want to feel that air blowing down on you.
In the winter time, you don't want to feel the
air blowing on you because what it's doing it's going
clockwise in the wintertime, and it's pulling up, not pushing down.
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It's pulling up underneath that fan a chamber of air
that goes up through the fan, hits the ceiling and
goes down along the walls, and it's like it's like
a beater on a mixer. All it's trying to do
is bring the cooler air from the bottom and push
the hot air that rises to the top down to
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the bottom. So that's that's the easiest way to remember
it well.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I've got it going the wrong way. Now, I guess
a EP was right, So.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Stand underneath it and if you're get in a good breeze,
it's perfect.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Hey. I got a tip for people that some people
get messed up with port and starboard yep.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
The easiest way to remember is the shortest ones are
all the same. Port left and red are all the
short right, starboard and green are the other long ones.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Very good, Thank you much, appreciate it. All right, let
me give you the phone numbery because we're gonna have
another hour to go and there's plenty of time for
you to get on board and we'll talk about your
home project. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five and Jerry, welcome. Hey, how's it going going fine?
(41:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Yeah, So I had a question. I'm helping my stepdaughter,
she just recently got remarried, and I'm helping you fix
up a house. We live out here on Cape Ann
out near rock Butt, and the whole house all balloon frame.
We got, uh jangles.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I need to.
Speaker 9 (42:15):
Insulate this and I get a lot of mixed opinions,
you know, I Owens Corning and Fiberglass Rock will sell
you los blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm just
worried about, you know, the saltwater, what it will do
to the different types of insulation. I didn't know if
you had any advice. Well, tell you more about the house.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, I know. I get the questions a lot, and
all those questions of rock will to sell you loss
of fiberglass. They they all seem to have a downside
and an upside. Obviously we need the insulation they they sell. Well,
you get the fiberglass in there, and you know it
filters for our furnace or fiberglass, so it's letting the
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air through, and you know, it's all about the thickness
and all that.
Speaker 9 (42:58):
With the fiberglass. I'm worried about mold and condensation.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
You know.
Speaker 9 (43:03):
Yeah, stepdaughter she has a lot of illnesses, so she
can get sick very easily well, and so I need
something that's going to keep those microbiomes.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well. Here here's a short, sweet answer, and I give
it all the time. If you're worried about mold and stuff,
I would say, uh, the my least favorite in that
case would probably be the cellulose. Okay, it's a paper product.
On the other hand, that's what I got in my
(43:32):
house and I love it. I think it's very effective.
But if you take the rock, ull, the cellulose, the fiberglass,
and you put that all in one container and say, look,
that's going to do the job. If you're looking for
something that's going to be superior to those products, there
is one, and that is the foam insulation. That is
(43:57):
that is where it's at in turn of being resistance
to mold, to eliminating drafts, to the things that you're
really zeroing in on. I would have them take a
look at some of the foam installations. They're superior per
inch of thickness. You're getting about it R six on
(44:18):
all the other ones for inch of thickness you're probably
getting about it are two point five. So that's what
you want to focus on, Jerry, And you know it's
a little bit more, but in Massachusetts, it'll pay for
itself much faster than anything else. Appreciate to Colin. We
got room for you. If you'd like to join us,
(44:39):
do so eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five at home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
If you don't have a list of things to do
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say something. Let's go to Frank. Frank, Welcome, Yes, how
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
My mom is a Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
There you go and we got a connection.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
There but anyways, I was I got some pressure treated.
I'm glad if you're talking about just today. I got
the pressure treated, and I tried to uh forget once
you know, once you forget or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It is wet and forget, but it's.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Not in the sunshine the deck and the steers, and
it doesn't seem to uh take an effect. And you
told me about something else I could use on it.
It was stronger, something oxygenated something or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, it's an oxygenated bleach. How long ago did you
put the wet and forget on there, Frank, Oh it was.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's I've tried it over the lash year of the
other I traded like three or four times or whatever.
There's no sun on that area. I think I think
the sun makes that work better or something.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, it needs it needs rain and it needs sunshine
to remain active. So yeah, if you want to switch gears,
there's actually there's some wonderful deck cleaning products out there
that contained an oxygenated bleach.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You know know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Uh it's it's a powder, it's mixed with water. It's
applied to the uh steps, the deck boards whatever. Allowed
to sit about ten minutes, take a a broom or
a scrub brush and just agitate it and rinse.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I made the strongest stuff whatever I can use, because
this is I'm a cop, and I put this up
probably about ten years.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Ago, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I never I was gonna wait and then paint it,
you know, because of the pressure treated and I never
got the paintment. So the thing's turning green. I got
allergy on it, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Okay, Well, the oxygen ad blade bleach is is a
total kill product. I mean, it will take care of it.
It'll you know, it'll kill the the the algae, the mold,
the mildew, and then you're just gonna let it dry
for a day or so and then apply whatever. Now
(04:01):
you said paint, So my antenna went up there a
little bit. You is paint on pressure treated wood. I'd
really rather you use what they call solid color stain
uh more used on pressure treated wood. It looks just
like paint. You won't be able to tell the difference.
Comes in fifty sixty different colors and it's a solid.
(04:25):
So using when you use that oxygenated cleaner, or go
to your local store get a deck cleaner, and then
get a deck brightener. The cleaner will clean off the
mold and mild doing stuff. The brightener is a really
important ingredient if you're using a solid color stain. It's
(04:49):
an oxalic acid which will brighten the wood and it'll
more importantly open up the pores of the pressure treated
wood and that allow how solid color stains to grab
on and bite onto that wood, which is critical for
solid color stains.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, because I mean what because I've seen them make it.
It's like at home depot or something. They use like
a regular paint bass right for the base, and then
they put the colors in for the right right, you know,
for the cold pain paint colors or whatever. Ye, but
now how soon after say I use the oxygen maybe
bleach scrub it and you know I've done it before,
(05:34):
you know, a year ago whatever they But I'm saying, like,
how shoon after can I actually use that? I'm gonna
have to use two more things after I use the
oxenated bleacher one.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Just one use the oxygen aid beat bleach and uh,
literally after you do that and it looks clean because
you're scrubbing this off, this is uh you know, this
is in real time. You know, no waiting allowed, so
you can come right back and then do the deck brightener,
which is again it's a mixture with water. It's applied,
(06:06):
allowed to sit ten to fifteen minutes, scrub and rinse off,
and then you know, give it a give it a
day or two. On whatever product you pick, it'll say
when it can be stained, and it can be anywhere
from two hours to forty eight hours of being dry.
So you're just gonna depending on what product you get
(06:27):
and what the base is, it'll tell you what the
you know, coating time should be after it's been cleaned
and wet.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It should be more than one code, just one on
for a while and then pay next year as well.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know. See that's the thing. There's just no definitive answers.
All these products are different now, I mean I was
just reading the DeFi, which is the one I talk
about a lot. They're new alcat acrylic is a two
code system or a one code system. Their original DeFi
was it two coat system. If he used a Bear product,
(07:03):
that's a one coat system, so you you know, you
it's really different. The DeFi one is probably the newest
one that gets me because if you want it to
be flat and not shiny, you do one coat. If
you want a little bit of sheine to it, you
do two coats, which makes sense. That means that first
one's penetrating down in the wood. The second coats a
(07:23):
little bit kind of laying on the surface, and that's
what makes it a sheene. And that's not a solid
color stain. That's the semi transparent. So that's the wood color.
So I'm going to guess that your solid color stains
for the most part will be a one coat system.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, yeah, because I mean, like you say, that'd be
a satin finish like the first one. Then you get
the gleam on the second one, right right, that makes sense.
I had done a shot of steers from my brother
and I had put on the paint. You know, I
don't know if I even waited, but it was. You know,
it's pressure treated. Some of it's ground pressure treated wood
(08:02):
and some of it above.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Ground the ground contact and non ground contact, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And it's not a dry So I painted it and
I'll tell you that paintsment on me for twenty years
or something. It looks pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
And I'm all the time because of the never painted it,
but you know, right right, yeah, very good.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I appreciate your information on that.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Gary, You're quite welcome call anytime, Frank, thank you. Yeah.
The ground contact in non ground contact, you know, the
non ground contact has only really been out I'm going
to say eight years, so I don't know if that
was twenty years ago. But you gotta be really careful.
(08:51):
I personally, I wouldn't use anything. If I'm buying pressure
treated wood, I don't care where it's going on that deck.
It's gonna be ground contact. Because what is ground contact?
Seems like it makes sense, right, Oh, maybe a post
it's gonna touch the ground. But in the fall, if
(09:13):
you got big trees around your deck and all the
leaves fall and some of them fall in your deck
and it rains and they start breaking down and get slimey,
isn't that like ground contact? Sure it is, So you know,
ground contact, that's what you want. And for the folks
that are really concerned about Jason, I'm just replacing a
(09:36):
border too, and you're telling me I'm gonna have to
wait a month or six months, depending on when it's
gonna absorb the water and they can stain it. There's
a solution to that. It's gonna cost a little more.
But kiln dried pressure treated would would be an answer.
It's pressure treated, then it's kiln dried. It can be
(09:59):
stained immediately. All right, let's take a break. We come back.
We got Chris and Bob by the way. Grab the line.
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Chris welcome.
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I'm suffering from a chronic case of stupid that I've
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I agree I have too.
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You can provide a cure for this bout of it.
I have a forty two inch fire pit pro pane
one know, out on the deck and all that, and
it had a you know, it's a metal top and
has the firre ring in the middle and all that stuff. Well,
what I did was I put a couple of bags
of those freezer packs that you put in a cooler,
(14:14):
you know, to keep it cold. Well, unfortunately I forgot
that I left those there and with ninety five degree heat,
they leaked on that and and so it well there's
a perfect imprint of the bag now on that, and
it looks like it's a painted you know, a factory
painted surface on the top of that.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
However, they would do that, And I was wondering if
I could use something like roller rock or something. I
don't know if that stuff can be used outdoors or
what would be the best way.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
So I can be used outdoors, it can be used outdoors.
So the top of the fire pit, is this a
masonry toppers of.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
It's a metal it's it's a I guess deal or
aluminum or something.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So the the blue bag is what's stained there?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Is that is that.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, actually the liquid leak out there's these kind of
disposable ones more or less instead of the hard plastic
ones and that leak. You know, when I lifted the
bag up, it was gooey, and I thought, it's like
it's well, yes, yeah, exactly what it is and what
it looks like now on the surface is you know,
on wood furniture, if you left a glass on it,
(15:27):
and you know, at least that little wax ring, it
looks like that, but it's it's a smooth but the
color is now gone. It was like a charcoal color,
maybe a lighter charcoal color top.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So what about just painting it?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well, I was I was wondering if that would be
a good alternative. I didn't know if U is there
a special kind of paint that I would use. One
thing I was kind of concerned about was since the
fire pit is in the middle of it, and that
you know, mostly head in the center of it, but
(16:07):
you know, it does weigh about I guess, so there
is heat what I would use?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, so there is heat proof paint and and I
just don't know how hot that ring gets. You might
be able to answer that better than me, But there
is heat proof paint that goes up to like two
thousand degrees.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh, now, this is one of those things where the
surface never gets too hot to touch. Okay, you know,
all right, so you know it gets warm, but not.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Right Okay, So okay, so we don't have to worry
about a heat proof paint. So I would say paint
would be a good cover up. Then the next question
is is there a residue on there? In other words,
you know, preps always the key, So we want to
be sure that, you know, we're not going to paint
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something and then all of a sudden it starts peeling
because of that gel And I don't really know what's
even in that gel Or is that residue now dried
into that? Should we scrub it? Should we try to
clean it? Should we sand it? You know? So you're
gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I did scrub it, and so it is now,
you know, smooth, just like the rest of It's not
like there's any residue left or anything.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Okay, But what it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Looked like that did was just bleach the color out
of whatever the I guess the paint surface okay on that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, So i'man just.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
A certain type of paint that you would recommend.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, I would just think a good metal enamel, be
it a rustolium or sure when Williams makes it. You're
a thinge trimming enamel that can be used indoor and outdoors,
which is very hardy. It could be used on metal doors,
it can be used on woodwork. It's probably a much
better grade than the rustolium, but even a rustolium trimming
(18:04):
amo would probably cover that up nicely.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Good.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
One other thing I wanted to say was, you know
a lot of people are talking about decks and I
got a deck put in a couple of years ago,
and I got that cap lumber stuff. Man, I wish
I would they had that years ago. Ipse off that
deck and it looks like brand new, no staining, know nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, And I'll tell you what. That's another thing, Chris. Honestly,
that's went through major transitions. I remember when Trek's first
came out with a composite, it wasn't capped, and you know,
after about five years it looked like steel slabs. It
just wasn't very attractive. Yeah, but you know, I mean
the transitions. Now the composites protected by this PVC cap.
(18:52):
They have it with different polyproducts that are fade resistant.
I mean they are. They're phenomenal. They're not cheap, but
they're phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, it was. The material was almost one hundred and
fifty percent of what pressure treated laber would be.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, but from the.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Fact that you never have to do anything more expensive
to install.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
But once they came with that CAP product, that whole
industry has changed to that. I mean it's it's all
going to CAP products. I mean the warning on that
stuff in twenty five years some people even twenty five
year on the product and twenty five year on the labor.
So very cool. All right, thank you much for the call.
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say it a lot. It just amazes me how quickly
a home deteriorates, and you probably had in your neighborhood
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just everything. And of course if you're living in a
home and everything's functioning, it too is deteriorating if you're
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not maintaining it. And that's what we talk about all
the time. If something is a miss, and I'm talking
about paint peeling off the side of a house or
a wood that's kind of spongy and it's rotting, and
you know it's it's not right, and you need to
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Danie'll take your call. Bob, Welcome, Hi Jarry.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I've got a question. I'm restoring an old one hundred
plus year old debt that has tongue and groove boards
on it. Ordinary three in an eighth five three quarter
inch boards, and a lot of them have rotted away
over the years. This is really old. Part of its exposed,
part of its covered parts is okay, the exposed parts,
(24:26):
A lot of it rotted away. So I did some
research and I found a kiln dried after treatment k
dat tongue and groove board at a local big box store.
And it's a pretty reasonable price. And I wondered if
you mentioned kill and dried pressure treated lumber a while ago.
(24:46):
So that's what I'm looking at. Any comments, Do you
think it's a good material.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think it's a great material. I mean, sometimes it
can get kind of pricey, but you said it's kind
of been line and works for you. Yeah. So one
of the advantage of that is, quite honestly, is it
is kiln dride. Everything you talk we talk about today,
I think I could trace those problems back to it
(25:14):
probably wasn't dry enough. Now I don't want to call
I don't want to tell all the callers that are
calling that they made a mistake, because I don't know
if they did or not. But my first inclination on
those calls today was I don't think you waited long enough.
I don't think you waited long enough. And so having
(25:36):
that kiln dride really takes care of that issue. And
it's yeah, that's great.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Now I got I used a chat ept for some
advice on what to do with it, and they said,
priming it is you know already do priming. It is
a smart thing to do. Prime and think, I want
this to last for a long long time. So they
recommended three oil basics aterior wood primers, Benjamin More Fresh
(26:02):
Start oil based primer, Sherwin Williams Exterior oil based wood primer,
and Zinger Cover Cover Stain oil based primer. So you
know they've got three products to recommend there. Then after that,
I wanted again to last. God, so the the They
said I could use water based exterior bonding pro No, no,
(26:23):
never mind now that that's still on the primer. Uh,
there's is since tren Ohio and Kentucky. But I can
go across the river if I.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Can't, Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
The Yeah, for the paint itself, they're recogmending oil based
for best durability. So they've got to Benjamin More floor
and paint enamel lochine and a Sherwy Williams portion floor
floor enamel oil based, so those should be readily available
at the local stores. Any agree on those props?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I totally agree. And and you know, the one of
the really neat things, and that's what's generating a lot
of these issues where people are getting confused. If you're
looking for a primer or a top coat of anything,
oil base is going to outperform in terms of bonding
to the wood better than anything. Acrylics have a tendency
(27:15):
to breathe. They also have a tendency to be a
little more fade resistant, but they don't bond as well
as an oil base. I don't care what anypie says.
They don't bond as well as an oil base. And
then you start getting into these new especially for decks,
not necessarily just floor paints. You start getting in these
(27:37):
modified acrylic alkids, which is a combination of oil. They're
trying to get the best of both worlds. And those
are fine, but you're probably not going to find those
in a floor paint. You'll find them in a solid
color stain, but it won't be in a floor paint.
And you know, a bend more product to Sherman Williams
product that you're turning around. You're not gonna go wrong
(27:59):
with those. And one of the things you might even
do too, is when you decide if you're gonna go
Ben Moore, you're gonna go Sherman Williams, take a look
at their finish coat, because they'll probably recommend the primary
and they'll probably be the same one that that AI
(28:20):
kind of recommended too. But just double check that, because
they're kind of made to be a partnership, right, I mean,
where the zinzer's a little bit outside the box, it's
a great primer. But if you can get the primer
inside the same brand name as the finished coade, I
always feel like you know they're they're they're kind of
(28:41):
a team, so don't split them up.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Okay, the next next the last part of this question.
In order to get to their point one hundred years old,
as I said, a fair quite a fair amount of
Joyce rotten, I'm replacing some beams under the joys and
even a little tricky thing where the they're part of
the poach has these big tall columns that support the
roof up above. Now I think I know what to do.
(29:08):
I'm real careful and methodical, but my wife thinks, and
I think she's probably right. It's a good idea to
get somebody to consult with about some of the fine
points to make sure I'm doing it right. Can you
recommend any sort of a consulting engineer consulting for a
homeowner that's doing building work where I can pay him
for her to come out and say, Okay, here's what
(29:29):
I need to accomplish, here's one proposal what I think
is the way to do it, and then pay them
for their expert advice.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Sure, So it would be a structural engineer. I don't
have a name of a company that you could go
to right away, but just google in your aerial structural engineers,
or if you have a you know, an independent lumber
yard where a lot of homebuilders get their wood packages from,
ask them some names of a structural engineer and you know,
(29:59):
I recommend they're just they're like a home inspector on steroids, right,
and they do that for individuals too. I think that
is a tremendous idea. I'd strongly recommend you to do
that in fact, and you don't even have to tell
them what your thoughts are. Let you know that that's
their specialty, and you know, whether you need to have
(30:22):
some bracing and a little beam to support or not.
I mean they'll be able to do that load study
and give you the answers you need. I totally agree
with you.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Okay, good, last last one. Okay, I mentioned use chat
ept for advice. You just mentioned Googling. Of course, Googling
was there before the AI, you know, enhancements. But do
you use any or do you recommend any any particular
for projects to get you know, to get this chat ept.
Theay need is three or four pages on paint right
(30:53):
and some other material. I was very impressed. It looks
really thorough and well thought.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
At sure no I mentioned Google out of force a habit. Yeah,
I used the chat GPT a lot, and of course
it didn't exist a year and a half ago, so
and I agree it's and one of the really neat things.
And from my standpoints, since I've been doing this so long,
so much of it it's like it's a reminder more
(31:22):
than like, oh I didn't know that, but it's kind
of a reminder. And you're right, you can get all
kinds of pages on it. I just in fact used
it in one of the brakes and just looked up
deck strippers just just because we were talking about it
and reading through it. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I'd
(31:44):
use it. Yeah, it's just fort I am, but I
said Google, but you're right.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Yeah, okay, good, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Gary, You're quite welcome. Take care. Call any time, all right.
Uh the phone number if you'd like to Jonas love
to have you, it's eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five and grab a line. We've got several open.
We'll have another hour to go, so don't be nervous
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we go thirteen minutes before the top of the are
at home with Gary Sullivan taking your calls forging a
little home improvement. And let's get back to the phone calls.
We'll go to Lois Lois Welcome.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
I used Latin forget outdoor on my driveway yesterday. I
had already power washed it and I turned it orange.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Hmm when I powerwash it, did you powerwash it before
or after you sing oh before before see used a powerwasher,
and then you sprayed to wed and forget on there
and then turned.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
The power powerwashing was done like two or three weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Okay, okay, But then I looked up.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
On their website and it says that it's a normal
temporary color change that occurs on some concrete surfaces right
after application. The color change insicates a good reaction between
the organic growth and wet and forget. The color will
disappear over time. But I think that you know that
(36:14):
I've never heard that happen or had anybody listen to
you that calls in. And I was very surprised, I thought,
you know, because you're standing there and it's just turning
orange right right.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Actually, I use it on my driveway of a stamp
concrete driveway which is old, and it's almost a maroon
when I first put it on there. So, yeah, it
does happen a lot of times.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
It's kind of scary, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of times, just the reaction
that the stuff were trying to kill, the mold, the
mildew and the algae. It's you know, rather than taking
six weeks to disappear. It's kind of its stage of death.
If you will, you know it's it's it's dying almost immediately.
Sometimes it also, especially with pavers, I've noticed it where
(37:08):
it'll turn almost like an orange, almost look like rust,
and it's from the minerals inside the pavers. Now it
probably works does that on concrete, but nothing to worry
about it. It will clear up at the very least. Maybe,
you know, if it's still like that, and you know
(37:29):
six weeks or two months later, might want to use
the pressure washer and just go ahead and clean that off.
It'll come off very easily. You shouldn't have to do that.
But in case it, you know, is still there, that's
what I don't.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
Want to warn other people. So, yeah, it's possibility. And
you know, you're you're thinking that you're gonna make an
improvement and it looks worse for a while.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, I've had that question before in the past. Uh,
you know, and it does clear up. So it was
it on the label or did you look it up
and find it?
Speaker 8 (38:07):
No, I looked it up my mind. Okay, frequently asked questions.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I have to Yeah, another good resource here is for
other people listening to us lois Is on Facebook. They
have what they call wet and Forget crew that you
can follow, and you can it's their technical services people.
They answer questions right off the Facebook, probably within an
(38:31):
hour or two. And that's another good resource, but very not.
I don't want to say it's normal because it doesn't
happen all the time, but periodically it will happen.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
Okay, I guess got lucky.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
You're the lucky one.
Speaker 8 (38:47):
All right, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Thank you, take care. All right, let's go to Bill.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Bill welcome, Hey, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You bet, I'm confused.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I got two ceiling fans in my house. I google
on which rotation they should go in the summer and
the winter, so I have them going the way that
the Google said. And now I get an alert from
ADEP and how to save energy. And they got me
turning turning in the opposite direction this time of year.
For forgetting the counterclockwise counter counterclockwise this time of year.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right now, here's another tip too, because counterclockwise is the
way a ceiling fan should go in the summertime, clockwise
in the wintertime. I too, get confused or forget from
one season to the next. But Danny and I were
talking about this actually earlier today. That's why it's right
at the tip of my tongue. A really good way
(39:47):
to take uh to know instead of remember that clockwise
or counterclockwise is when you turn it on, stand underneath
a fan, okay, okay, and in in the summertime, you
should feel the air blowing right down on you. You stand
right uneath the fan. You should feel it because what
(40:10):
you're doing is you're trying to create a wind chill, right,
you want to feel that air blowing down on you.
In the winter time, you don't want to feel the
air blowing on you because what it's doing it's going
clockwise in the wintertime, and it's pulling up, not pushing down.
(40:30):
It's pulling up underneath that fan a chamber of air
that goes up through the fan, hits the ceiling and
goes down along the walls, and it's like it's like
a beater on a mixer. All it's trying to do
is bring the cooler air from the bottom and push
the hot air that rises to the top down to
(40:52):
the bottom. So that's that's the easiest way to remember
it well.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I've got it going the wrong way. Now, I guess
a EP was right, So.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Stand underneath it and if you're get in a good breeze,
it's perfect.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Hey. I got a tip for people that some people
get messed up with port and starboard yep.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
The easiest way to remember is the shortest ones are
all the same. Port left and red are all the
short right, starboard and green are the other long ones.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Very good, Thank you much, appreciate it. All right, let
me give you the phone numbery because we're gonna have
another hour to go and there's plenty of time for
you to get on board and we'll talk about your
home project. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five and Jerry, welcome. Hey, how's it going going fine?
(41:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Yeah, So I had a question. I'm helping my stepdaughter,
she just recently got remarried, and I'm helping you fix
up a house. We live out here on Cape Ann
out near rock Butt, and the whole house all balloon frame.
We got, uh jangles.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
I need to.
Speaker 9 (42:15):
Insulate this and I get a lot of mixed opinions,
you know, I Owens Corning and Fiberglass Rock will sell
you los blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm just
worried about, you know, the saltwater, what it will do
to the different types of insulation. I didn't know if
you had any advice. Well, tell you more about the house.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, I know. I get the questions a lot, and
all those questions of rock will to sell you loss
of fiberglass. They they all seem to have a downside
and an upside. Obviously we need the insulation they they sell. Well,
you get the fiberglass in there, and you know it
filters for our furnace or fiberglass, so it's letting the
(42:52):
air through, and you know, it's all about the thickness
and all that.
Speaker 9 (42:58):
With the fiberglass. I'm worried about mold and condensation.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
You know.
Speaker 9 (43:03):
Yeah, stepdaughter she has a lot of illnesses, so she
can get sick very easily well, and so I need
something that's going to keep those microbiomes.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well. Here here's a short, sweet answer, and I give
it all the time. If you're worried about mold and stuff,
I would say, uh, the my least favorite in that
case would probably be the cellulose. Okay, it's a paper product.
On the other hand, that's what I got in my
(43:32):
house and I love it. I think it's very effective.
But if you take the rock, ull, the cellulose, the fiberglass,
and you put that all in one container and say, look,
that's going to do the job. If you're looking for
something that's going to be superior to those products, there
is one, and that is the foam insulation. That is
(43:57):
that is where it's at in turn of being resistance
to mold, to eliminating drafts, to the things that you're
really zeroing in on. I would have them take a
look at some of the foam installations. They're superior per
inch of thickness. You're getting about it R six on
(44:18):
all the other ones for inch of thickness you're probably
getting about it are two point five. So that's what
you want to focus on, Jerry, And you know it's
a little bit more, but in Massachusetts, it'll pay for
itself much faster than anything else. Appreciate to Colin. We
got room for you. If you'd like to join us,
(44:39):
do so eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five at home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
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