August 10, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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two three eight two five five, and let's go to Sam. Sam.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Welcome Oho, Gary. How you doing doing fine?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
My question good.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm glad to hear that. My question is encapsulating my
crawl space myself. I live here in Delaware of this
because there was a lot of dampness down there. I
have the fiberable and ducks down there, and it was
like eighty eight percent humidity. Okay, So I think to
(02:14):
do humidifiers down there, one large one and one smaller
one because it's a large house.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So question number one is is there any standing water
at any time during the year on the floor of
that cross space.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
There was quite a bare of water about two years ago.
What happened was I have pecks tooting for plumbing, which
is great, and then they used the zeron fittings to
have well water and they started popping leaks all over
the place. So I became an amateur plumber.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, okay, So it was it was clear water, supply water, yes,
it was groundwater.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was spply water. Yeah. Well it was added a
well but uh yeah, yeah. So I monitored the pressure
all the time in the in the tank. Now my
question is, since I'm closing off the DUNC work, I
sealed the grills and then I put a bag of
garbage bag of insulation in there. Then I'm going to
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cover it with a piece of foam board that on
the inside. And I'm wondering if I still need sub
floor insulation there a fiberglass pinker.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, let's let's just go through the whole encapsulation and
then you can tell me how you were going to
play in the insulate if I was doing this myself.
Is there any ventilation going into that cross space at all?
Is there any openings?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
No more?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
There was quite a bit of openings sealed.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Sealed up all right? Good? And then the floor is
it a dark floor now?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Currently it's third floor covered by plastic.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Okay, and it's overlapped taped grave on top or No.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's overlapped because my son put down the first layer
and then he needed to put down a heavier layer.
So there's two layers there which I have to tape.
I haven't taped.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yet, Okay, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I still want to hit the foundation blocks, maybe with
dry dry lock paint, but it's pretty dry down now.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, it sounds okay so far. So, yeah,
you want to get around about twelve mills of plastic
down there. Yeah in thickness. Now you got two layers,
so I'm guessing you're probably at a minimum of eight,
so you're you're doing well. Get those things, tape some
gravel on it to you know, shore it up. And
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at that point, the dry lock on the on the
walls would be a great idea because there is water
vapor that's coming through that block also, so getting nuts
sealed up that that's going to help.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And even maybe running.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That plastic up that wall is less important if you're
going to dry lock it, but you might take and
maybe used uh some foam panels on that wall, even
if you just glue them onto the wall, or some
thermax panels, some insulating panels. So what we're trying to
do is we're trying to make that area kind of
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a kind of a condition place.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, so we got if we.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Check the moisture on the ground, we dry lock, we
check the moisture on the walls, maybe insulate the walls
with foam panels, then you really wouldn't need any insulation
up between the joyst all right, now, right, getting that,
it would be really interesting to see exactly where we're
going to be with our humidity once we get that done,
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and you know, in the summertime, we'd like to see
that humidity in that cross space between fifty and sixty
percent period, So if it, you know, gets above and
beyond that range. As I stayed to the other person,
do you minifiers can.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Be expensive to operate.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Sometimes they're necessary, and I get that, but air exchanging
units also will help. So it's it's a little different
than the openings that you had in a crawl space,
but there are there are products where they'll run duckwork
out of that wall, all right, and there'll be a
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device that's sucking air from the crawl space out and
outside and just letting the house air from people coming
and going filter back in. And that's how you would
create that ventilation of crass space. It's real effective against
pollutants and it's also effective against moisture, and it's a
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big time cheaper than running a demidifier. So you know,
adding something like that that could probably get you down
maybe two no dehumidifiers or maybe one do humidifier, maybe
not as big of a deal and lower your cost
and you know, help control it that way.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Also, yeah, what I did buy them recently and they
seem to be very energy efficient and haven't affected my
electric bill that much.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And what I did was I saw a video on
YouTube where they put the drain lines into the mainline
septic right, which worked pretty good. So because one of
them has a dump pail which I don't have to
dump now since I got it poured it into the
mainline septic.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
All right, Well, if you're if you're fine with running that, uh,
and we get that floor sealed up and dry locked,
let's see where we are in terms of humidity. There
would be, like I said, there would be another card
to play, possibly with an air exchanging unit. But let's
see if you can get that controlled with just doing
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what we talk.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yes, and I'm going to monitor the temperature over the
winter before I take out any insulation. I got a
monitor down there, so I'm going to see how cold
it gets down there. I don't want nothing freezing. Oh
and I also had I had my ear my air
duck work sealed by arrow seal and yeah it was
(08:23):
good and bad, but it's done now. It seems to
be more efficient and the returns they did the returns also,
so it's not pulling in any stale air from the
crawl space.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, yeah, all right, were you sounding here on your
way go ahead?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
What do you think about arrow sal Do you think
it's cost effect.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I actually had it done on my home before it
was called arrow Seal, probably twenty twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I think it's you know, when you say cost effective,
I don't know if I can answer that. I can
say it lowered my utility bills, and it was also,
I mean there was very much. I had a twenty
five percent loss of heating and cooled air. So with
a four ton unit for my house, I was getting
(09:17):
three tons of conditioned air. So when I was finished
sealing it up, I was getting three and seven ace
tons of air.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So I'd say that's pretty offense.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm much more efficient now, I believe, although
they kind of messed it up and had to do
another zone over again because I found it was zone
boalve that wasn't working. Ah, and good for you, but
I got my amidity down to fifty percent now col
In a few days it went to fifty and seems
to be holding there now.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Super very good. That's the name of the game. You
get that humidity down and save a little energy at
the same time, and you got comfort and savings.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yes, because I had a termite swarm. That's what got
me down there, and I think I better do something.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, once we start, once we start investigating something, we
always seem to find other things. So all right, Sam,
thank you much for the car.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I appreciate it. Good luck to you. Take care all right.
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Yeah, well, it's kind of not your normal ballpark here.
But I have a old tontoon boat with a plywood
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it doesn't seem to stay on very long, probably because
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kind of weather. It's getting kind of cracks in it
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Yeah, say yeah, So I guess is it a pressure
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I'm pretty sure. I mean it's older bolt I bought
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Speaker 1 (17:33):
Garry, how are you doing doing good?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, the previous gentleman that you were talking to I had.
It's sort of the same problem, and I got some
of that information there. I have a couple of things.
I have a cottage up on Lake Erie and I
have a cross freens in it. And in the water time,
they got really cold down there, and I went up
there and I didn't have any hot water, and I
thought maybe my pipes close. But I have toye all
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the nice pipes, and they were the hot water was corroded,
so I had that out and replaced with pecks. Okay,
so pretty much with the information that you gave, I
was taking of putting the phone panels on the cement walls,
and also also on the floor. Uh, just for the
fact that I have to crawl back to almost on
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my belly to get to the shot off belve, you know,
if I'm not going to be there. So I thought
maybe the phone panels would would help out a little bit.
But I still have the organized for my cold water
line and I want to replace that, but it's hard
to find the plumber that really wants.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
To go down there and do that, right.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But Uh, I like the idea of the dry lock
or the phone panels. That was something I was thinking of, uh,
and then putting it on. I have a dirt floor
and I have a heavy duty plastic on it, okay
right now, and I was I was gonna put the
phone panel over the top of that. Okay, Uh, what
do you think would I need to do? What I
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previously on the galvan I had the pipe scrap and
I got a heat tape on them. Now that's no
longer work and that's all all gone now, So I
just have the pecks down there, and I bought some
foam panels. Would that be good to use?
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Yeah, you can use you can either wrap the pecks.
I don't know if I really liked the electric on that,
but I'd wrap them even with a foam pipe insulators
and then use like aluminum tape on that to seal
it up. I think that's what I'd do, and then
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which you know back in my day that's what you
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Adam Smith.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He is with.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Dumont Global and Adam welcome that home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Thanks Gary, great to be back on with you.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So stripping compounds for coatings has Why don't you just
tell everybody just about that whole transition that's taken place
in the last twenty years.
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Sure, over the years, like you mentioned methylene chloride, there's
some pretty heavy duty chemicals that are very harmful to you,
harmful to the environment. And Dumand has been in business
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Speaker 1 (23:58):
So, I mean, let's face it, you folks are really
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Yes, we have. Yes, we were working on the Eiffel Tower.
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Speaker 1 (24:29):
Well, gee, Adam, all I need is a dresser strip.
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Well, not a problem. So one thing to be left
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inherited a piece of furniture from a family member, you
don't really know what's on for the codings that are there.
They could be fifty years old, it could be one
hundred years old, it could be fifteen years old. And
using one paint stripper to do everything is is probably
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not the best idea. So if you've just something in
your house back in nineteen ninety five and you want
to strip your cabinets, using our Smart Striped Advance or
Smart strip Pro will probably do the job for you
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furniture on the side of the road and you want
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we call a test kit, so it has three products
in there. You test it on the surface that you
want to strip, and it'll tell you the right product
to use. So if it's older than nineteen seventy eight,
when they outlawed lead based paint. You may want to
use our Felaway product. Okay, so that'll re move up
to thirty layers of paint works one if it gets
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right down to the wood. And the nice thing is
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or our Smart strip our Smart Strip Advance, which is
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probably one of the one of their staple ones in
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Okay, well this brings up a good point too, not
to confuse people, but if you have a dresser and
it's been painted and you go by X y Z
stripper and it doesn't work, it may be that that
particular manufacturer doesn't have strippers that will work on that coding.
And you do, I mean, you have even test kits
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to identify the exact coating and what will remove it.
But the go to product for newer codings is the
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Speaker 5 (26:41):
Say, Advance, or the Smart Strip Pro. Okay, either of
those two will work. The Smart strip Pro will work
on more of your advanced codings. What smart Strip Advance
is for your regular water based codings that you're going
to find a cric based paints and things like that
in the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, well, let's me kind of paint a picture
and you help me. Okay, so I got a dresser.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I'll help you strip it.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, help me do this. It's been in the family,
maybe just a generation, so it's probably thirty forty years
old maybe, And I don't know whether it's latex on there.
I don't know if it's just an oil based paint.
And you know, I'm gonna do it in January, so
I I you know, I kind of can't do it outside.
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Maybe I could do it in the garage. May I
could do it in the basement. Maybe I could just
put some plastic and put leave it where it is.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Help me with that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
So first thing, I'd recommend that you really don't know
what's on there. I recommend getting the test kit online
testing it first, see which is the right product for you. Okay,
it's been in your family for a couple of generations.
You may lend towards the Peelawey product, which is really
good for your organics like lead based paints and things
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like that. Okay, you're gonna you can use this indoors
or outdoors. You're gonna apply it. You're gonna use our
paper over the top of it, okay. And what that does,
it helps keep the product adhere to the surface. It
keeps it moist so it continues to work. So if
you have many layers, it's going to take some time
to come off, so you want that paper there to
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keep it, keep it moist. And then when you're ready
to remove it, it helps catch and capture what you're
scraping off that surface, Okay, and then you're gonna come
back with you. If you're doing a dresser, probably a
little squirt bottle with a little scoalaring pad to get
any residual. And that's really all you have to do
with our products. And if it's a newer dresser and
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you're gonna use one of the other gel strippers like
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same process. You're gonna put it on, always put on
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you're gonna cover it. And then after that certain time
you want to take it off, you're just gonna scrape
it off into the paper, so you don't have to
scrape it off into a pail or into a bucket.
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It's going to be captured with that paper.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So you helped me with this too. So a lot
of times I hear in my background of courses in
hardware stores and even ten years ago out here, I
bought that new stuff. And I'm not talking about your
brand in particular. There's a couple of brands out there.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Bought that new stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It don't work, it does work. You got to have
the right product right.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Correct, correct. And you know, we've had people that have
been using peel Away since its inception and it's worked
well for them because they're in older cities and the
chances of removing lead based paints or organics is pretty high.
But what they're finding now is is they're not getting
success with the peel Away because you think about it
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in nineteen seventy eight, that's how many years ago, forty
something years ago, correct, and so anything that's a long
time ago so more than likely does have water based,
acrylic based paint on there. So they're choosing the wrong
product that goes back to again testing it to be sure,
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because I don't want you to go out by one
of our products and not be happy with it. I'd
rather have you test find the right product and have
one offul success work because then you're going to tell
your neighbor, you're going to tell your friends about how
well these products work.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So I guess we need to focus in on the
test kits for people know where to get that and
exactly how a test kit works, and the expense of
that can work through that test kit's.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Going to range between fifteen and twenty dollars depending. You
can buy them online and on. The test kit consists
of It consists of a little court size of each
of our products. It's going to include little scouring pads,
a little trowel, gloves, the things that you need to test,
and the paper has instructions there and how to use
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it properly. So you're going to do a section of
each one, come back after a certain period of time,
give it a little scrape and see what it's doing,
because in some cases it may work very quickly. In
other cases where you have multiple layers and layers and
layers of paint, it's gonna take a little bit longer,
so you can kind of judge how long it's going
to take, and then you can figure out which is
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a proper product for you because at the end of
the day, getting the jobs done right the first time, I.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Was just going to say, and regardless of you know,
how much time you have, you're going to narrow that
time down by testing it and making sure you got
the right stripper. And especially big projects. If you're talking
about stripping the doors in an old house, good chance
you'll need to peel away right number one correct, But
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testing it if you just yeah, boy, I see, I
see where there's issues there and why people get a
little disgruntled, and so I'm not going to do that project.
But really it's just a matter of testing and finding
out exactly what's on there. Because the whole codings industry
has flip flopped in the last fifty years.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
That's that's correct. And you know the little story here, Gary,
we had somebody contact us. They bought one hundred and
ten year old farmhouse and they went online and found
Pelola being great for removing older paints, and they happened
to call us and they ended up getting the test kit,
and again we're all pretty much convinced that it's going
to be Peloa because it's an old farmhouse. Correct, right, Well,
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she ended up doing the test kit. Come to find
out it was a smart strip Advanced was the right
product for her. So you don't really know put your
doors in that house in nineteen eighty three, you don't
know if they were painted for the first time in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Eighty Oh, you don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Again, that kind of goes back to the testing and
again we were convinced it was PELOI. But she proved
this wrong with the test kit and proved it was
the smart of Advanced.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It was the right product for So you say online
is that Dumontglobal dot com? Is that where you get
to test kid?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Correct? You can go to Doland Global dot com. You
can just google it and find it on Amazon and
other places like that. Sherwin Williams is another opportunity for you.
You can talk to your local do A Best members
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our products as well.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So furniture refishing, refinishing as a whole is I mean
there used to be a lot of that is there's
still a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Of it there really is. I mean, there's a category
that I find it's growing quite a bit. Especially you're
getting second generation kids that are cleaning out their parents' house, right,
and that dresser was theirs. Now they're selling it in
the garage sale or they're putting it on the street.
And you know, I see videos out there all the
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time with people finding Ethan Allen furniture, really high end
furniture that's been painted over the generations. Right, But there's
beautiful wood underneath there and just spectacular wood, and people
want to start protecting that. And we're finding also with
restoration projects and homes, instead of tearing out all this
beautiful wood.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And oh yeah, oh yeah, you can't afford to replace there.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
So yeah, you're getting in this beautiful old growth wood.
So why destroy it when you can strip it, restain
it and just have a beautiful you know, make it
look like it did one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Boy, I agree with you one hundred percent. I kind
of involved it. Habitat Humanity and the restores. There's over
six hundred stores nationwide, and there's some beautiful furniture in
these stores sometimes that are donated and gorgeous stuff which
brings me the next question. And we've been talking about
removing coatings, what about removing stain and you know, like
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a wood dining room set. I mean, does that have
to be tested? Does it have to be stained or
sand it does?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It depends help me.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
It really just depends on what you're removing, okay, and
you know in some cases you're gonna have to do
some sandy okay to get down to where you want
to be.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
But again, at the end of the day, when you
test you get the right item to remove what's on there,
you should have been a really good shape for success.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
DuMond Global dot Com. Trying to think if I've missed
any questions. But the bottom line here is I think
I think we need to test.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Huh.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
We we do, and again we want you to be
happy with our You know, we live in a world
today that if you if you're not successful with something, no, you.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
May go online and let people know, and it may
not be the right reason to let people know. And
so if you test it, you're going to get it
right of the time.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, And like you said, you're picking up a high
end piece of furniture. It's worth fifteen bucks to get
the right stripper, because you really got to find there.
I mean you got you got a great mess of furniture.
All right, I'm looking forward. We're gonna get together, I
know in September up at the Do It Best show
and we'll have.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
A chat again.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And it's a wonderful products and it's been around for
a long time and I certainly appreciate you joining me today, Adam.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Thanks Gary, It's always a pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, very good, thank you. It's Dumont. It's d
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Let's get the right one.
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Speaker 2 (39:44):
I had that conversation yesterday.
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And I wanted to replay it because I think it's
just very important I get asked a lot about environmentally
friendly strippers, and some of them, you know, are positive,
they work really well well, and then others like it
didn't do anything. And I start researching in different brands,
and you know, I start kind of honing in on
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smart Strip Advanced is still going to take care of
probably eighty ninety percent of your coatings, but you get
into older houses and older furniture, you might want to
test it first to see what you're trying to remove.
And we thank him for joining us. Right before we
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had a chat with Adam, we had a conversation about
the PEX pipe in a cross space and apologize, but
we kind of rambled for a little bit and kind
of ran out of time. He was in a cross
base and he was talking about, you know, eliminating the
insulation on the underside of the floor. It is similar
(41:18):
to the other fellow and he was talking about putting
and you want at least an eight mil plastic on
the ground overlapped with the same seams taped. But then
on the wall you can run that plastic up a
little bit, but also insulating that because in a lot
of cases, not all cases, but in a lot of
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cases some of that's above ground too. You can insulate that.
You can also use the dry lock to stop water
vapor from penetrating, and then use the foam panel for
insulation and then eliminate the under the floor insulation. But
you're really gonna want to monitor what that temperature back
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in that cross space is because if it still gets
below freezing or.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Still has a.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Draft right by a pipe, certainly we want to, you know,
eliminate the events. We want to eliminate cracks so we
don't have a draft. We want to make sure in
the the in between the joye on the sill that
that's insulated and the wall, and you want to use
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a closed cell foam and again monitoring it making sure
it doesn't get below zero's key if it does. Insulating
the pipe the actual pets is important. And then when
you start getting into areas where it's right up and
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against an area and there's a pocket back there. Just
use some loose fill or some pipe wrap and just
stuff it back in there. So you want to still
get that insulated. If it's if that whole area, even
though it's now quote a conditioned area, still drops below freezing.
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So when you do things like that, you get one
of those sensors that are mobile and you put that
in that cross space and it'll give you a humidity
and a temperature reading. And if you can monitor that,
you'll be you'll be in great shape. I won't have
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to worry about the freezing and you know, having water
poured down into that cross space and being infested with mold.
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So just wanted to kind of pass that along.
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
Welcome Oho, Gary. How you doing doing fine?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
My question good.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm glad to hear that. My question is encapsulating my
crawl space myself. I live here in Delaware of this
because there was a lot of dampness down there. I
have the fiberable and ducks down there, and it was
like eighty eight percent humidity. Okay, So I think to
(02:14):
do humidifiers down there, one large one and one smaller
one because it's a large house.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So question number one is is there any standing water
at any time during the year on the floor of
that cross space.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
There was quite a bare of water about two years ago.
What happened was I have pecks tooting for plumbing, which
is great, and then they used the zeron fittings to
have well water and they started popping leaks all over
the place. So I became an amateur plumber.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, okay, So it was it was clear water, supply water, yes,
it was groundwater.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was spply water. Yeah. Well it was added a
well but uh yeah, yeah. So I monitored the pressure
all the time in the in the tank. Now my
question is, since I'm closing off the DUNC work, I
sealed the grills and then I put a bag of
garbage bag of insulation in there. Then I'm going to
(03:19):
cover it with a piece of foam board that on
the inside. And I'm wondering if I still need sub
floor insulation there a fiberglass pinker.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, let's let's just go through the whole encapsulation and
then you can tell me how you were going to
play in the insulate if I was doing this myself.
Is there any ventilation going into that cross space at all?
Is there any openings?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
No more?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
There was quite a bit of openings sealed.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Sealed up all right? Good? And then the floor is
it a dark floor now?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Currently it's third floor covered by plastic.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Okay, and it's overlapped taped grave on top or No.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's overlapped because my son put down the first layer
and then he needed to put down a heavier layer.
So there's two layers there which I have to tape.
I haven't taped.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yet, Okay, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I still want to hit the foundation blocks, maybe with
dry dry lock paint, but it's pretty dry down now.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, no, it sounds okay so far. So, yeah,
you want to get around about twelve mills of plastic
down there. Yeah in thickness. Now you got two layers,
so I'm guessing you're probably at a minimum of eight,
so you're you're doing well. Get those things, tape some
gravel on it to you know, shore it up. And
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at that point, the dry lock on the on the
walls would be a great idea because there is water
vapor that's coming through that block also, so getting nuts
sealed up that that's going to help.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And even maybe running.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That plastic up that wall is less important if you're
going to dry lock it, but you might take and
maybe used uh some foam panels on that wall, even
if you just glue them onto the wall, or some
thermax panels, some insulating panels. So what we're trying to
do is we're trying to make that area kind of
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a kind of a condition place.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, so we got if we.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Check the moisture on the ground, we dry lock, we
check the moisture on the walls, maybe insulate the walls
with foam panels, then you really wouldn't need any insulation
up between the joyst all right, now, right, getting that,
it would be really interesting to see exactly where we're
going to be with our humidity once we get that done,
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and you know, in the summertime, we'd like to see
that humidity in that cross space between fifty and sixty
percent period, So if it, you know, gets above and
beyond that range. As I stayed to the other person,
do you minifiers can.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Be expensive to operate.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Sometimes they're necessary, and I get that, but air exchanging
units also will help. So it's it's a little different
than the openings that you had in a crawl space,
but there are there are products where they'll run duckwork
out of that wall, all right, and there'll be a
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device that's sucking air from the crawl space out and
outside and just letting the house air from people coming
and going filter back in. And that's how you would
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pollutants and it's also effective against moisture, and it's a
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big time cheaper than running a demidifier. So you know,
adding something like that that could probably get you down
maybe two no dehumidifiers or maybe one do humidifier, maybe
not as big of a deal and lower your cost
and you know, help control it that way.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Also, yeah, what I did buy them recently and they
seem to be very energy efficient and haven't affected my
electric bill that much.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And what I did was I saw a video on
YouTube where they put the drain lines into the mainline
septic right, which worked pretty good. So because one of
them has a dump pail which I don't have to
dump now since I got it poured it into the
mainline septic.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
All right, Well, if you're if you're fine with running that, uh,
and we get that floor sealed up and dry locked,
let's see where we are in terms of humidity. There
would be, like I said, there would be another card
to play, possibly with an air exchanging unit. But let's
see if you can get that controlled with just doing
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what we talk.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yes, and I'm going to monitor the temperature over the
winter before I take out any insulation. I got a
monitor down there, so I'm going to see how cold
it gets down there. I don't want nothing freezing. Oh
and I also had I had my ear my air
duck work sealed by arrow seal and yeah it was
(08:23):
good and bad, but it's done now. It seems to
be more efficient and the returns they did the returns also,
so it's not pulling in any stale air from the
crawl space.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, yeah, all right, were you sounding here on your
way go ahead?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
What do you think about arrow sal Do you think
it's cost effect.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I actually had it done on my home before it
was called arrow Seal, probably twenty twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I think it's you know, when you say cost effective,
I don't know if I can answer that. I can
say it lowered my utility bills, and it was also,
I mean there was very much. I had a twenty
five percent loss of heating and cooled air. So with
a four ton unit for my house, I was getting
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three tons of conditioned air. So when I was finished
sealing it up, I was getting three and seven ace
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Speaker 2 (09:26):
So I'd say that's pretty offense.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, that is good.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm much more efficient now, I believe, although
they kind of messed it up and had to do
another zone over again because I found it was zone
boalve that wasn't working. Ah, and good for you, but
I got my amidity down to fifty percent now col
In a few days it went to fifty and seems
to be holding there now.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Super very good. That's the name of the game. You
get that humidity down and save a little energy at
the same time, and you got comfort and savings.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yes, because I had a termite swarm. That's what got
me down there, and I think I better do something.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, once we start, once we start investigating something, we
always seem to find other things. So all right, Sam,
thank you much for the car.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I appreciate it. Good luck to you. Take care all right.
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Let's try to listen to you every weekend. I really
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Thank you, sir.
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Yeah, well, it's kind of not your normal ballpark here.
But I have a old tontoon boat with a plywood
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and you know, they got all moldy and kept the
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painting it for the last quite a few years, and
it doesn't seem to stay on very long, probably because
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Yeah, say yeah, So I guess is it a pressure
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I'm pretty sure. I mean it's older bolt I bought
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Yeah, yeah, there is there is a product that you're
you're talking about. I don't have a name of it.
They use it a lot in truck beds, and but
I can't think of a name of it. The one
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I would think of would be what the other fellow
was talking about when we were talking about his porch.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
We were talking about a.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Product called roller rock and spreadstone that would go on
to wood also because wood on wood, concrete, anything along
those lines. It would just require a good bondable surface.
In other words, we've got to make sure there is
no wood rot. If there's any patching, you could use
(15:55):
a Marina POxy wood patch. And then the roller rock
product is relatively slip resistant. It's much thicker than pain.
It is a coating. You go two coats with that,
and then you put a product called track Safe over that.
That's a clear ceilant and uh, that's that's really durable
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and slip resistant, which is really important on a boat,
as you know. And again making that patch with a
marine epoxy wood wood patch, I think you could probably
dress that up pretty good.
Speaker 9 (16:34):
Yeah, well that sounds exactly like what I need, so yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah. Let me give you this website.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's DICEE, D A I C. H Coatings dot com,
Dice Coatings dot com. And there's a roller rock and
there's another one called Spreadstone. Comes in different colors, got
speckles in its very attractive, easy to apply, roll it
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on in a clear seiler. Lifespan on that coating is
about fifteen years seiler about every five years.
Speaker 9 (17:12):
Wow, well that's good. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Very over.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Get up to Cooper, don't.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'll give you a boat ride there you go, beautiful area.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
All right, very good. And we get to add here
real quick too, because we got a little chat at
the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Ed Welcome.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Garry, how are you doing doing good?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, the previous gentleman that you were talking to I had.
It's sort of the same problem, and I got some
of that information there. I have a couple of things.
I have a cottage up on Lake Erie and I
have a cross freens in it. And in the water time,
they got really cold down there, and I went up
there and I didn't have any hot water, and I
thought maybe my pipes close. But I have toye all
(17:58):
the nice pipes, and they were the hot water was corroded,
so I had that out and replaced with pecks. Okay,
so pretty much with the information that you gave, I
was taking of putting the phone panels on the cement walls,
and also also on the floor. Uh, just for the
fact that I have to crawl back to almost on
(18:18):
my belly to get to the shot off belve, you know,
if I'm not going to be there. So I thought
maybe the phone panels would would help out a little bit.
But I still have the organized for my cold water
line and I want to replace that, but it's hard
to find the plumber that really wants.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
To go down there and do that, right.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But Uh, I like the idea of the dry lock
or the phone panels. That was something I was thinking of, uh,
and then putting it on. I have a dirt floor
and I have a heavy duty plastic on it, okay
right now, and I was I was gonna put the
phone panel over the top of that. Okay, Uh, what
do you think would I need to do? What I
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previously on the galvan I had the pipe scrap and
I got a heat tape on them. Now that's no
longer work and that's all all gone now, So I
just have the pecks down there, and I bought some
foam panels. Would that be good to use?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, you can use you can either wrap the pecks.
I don't know if I really liked the electric on that,
but I'd wrap them even with a foam pipe insulators
and then use like aluminum tape on that to seal
it up. I think that's what I'd do, and then
use some loose fill around that pet. We'll continue at
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and it's about your home. You know. One of the
projects I know many of us get into is stripping
paint and whether it's a piece of furniture, whether it's
old doors, and boy, if you're up to speed on
home improvement, you know that category has been through a
big time transition. We used to use methylne chloride strippers,
(22:53):
which you know back in my day that's what you
use to strip furniture. But that whole world has changed
a little bit and it helped us with that is
Adam Smith.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He is with.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Dumont Global and Adam welcome that home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Thanks Gary, great to be back on with you.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So stripping compounds for coatings has Why don't you just
tell everybody just about that whole transition that's taken place
in the last twenty years.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Sure, over the years, like you mentioned methylene chloride, there's
some pretty heavy duty chemicals that are very harmful to you,
harmful to the environment. And Dumand has been in business
for over forty years and we've always been a water
based paining remover, paint stripper product. Okay, so you don't
use those harsh methylene chlorides and the nps in any
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of our products. So we kind of started being the
safer movement many years ago to make furniture stripping or
stripping doors or any restoration project easier and safer.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
So, I mean, let's face it, you folks are really
the leaders in this kind of stuff. You've done some
landmarks throughout the world.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yes, we have. Yes, we were working on the Eiffel Tower.
We've done the Brooklyn Bridge, the US capital dum you know,
the world famous Hollywood Sign. And one that we're really
proud of is the USS Casts and Young in Boston Harbor,
which is a group of Navy veterans that are volunteering
to care and maintain the cast and young. So they
we're really proud of that that they're using our product there.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Well, gee, Adam, all I need is a dresser strip.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Well, not a problem. So one thing to be left
to understand. Not every coding's the same. Real they have
inherited a piece of furniture from a family member, you
don't really know what's on for the codings that are there.
They could be fifty years old, it could be one
hundred years old, it could be fifteen years old. And
using one paint stripper to do everything is is probably
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not the best idea. So if you've just something in
your house back in nineteen ninety five and you want
to strip your cabinets, using our Smart Striped Advance or
Smart strip Pro will probably do the job for you
quite easily. But if you've picked up that piece of
furniture on the side of the road and you want
to refinish it and you're not sure, we have what
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we call a test kit, so it has three products
in there. You test it on the surface that you
want to strip, and it'll tell you the right product
to use. So if it's older than nineteen seventy eight,
when they outlawed lead based paint. You may want to
use our Felaway product. Okay, so that'll re move up
to thirty layers of paint works one if it gets
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right down to the wood. And the nice thing is
this cleanup is just with water with all of our products,
and so if you have something newer when you do
the test strip, you do want to check out either
of the Smart Strip Pro, which is really good for
dual part of Poxy's powder coated surfaces and things like that,
or our Smart strip our Smart Strip Advance, which is
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probably one of the one of their staple ones in
the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, well this brings up a good point too, not
to confuse people, but if you have a dresser and
it's been painted and you go by X y Z
stripper and it doesn't work, it may be that that
particular manufacturer doesn't have strippers that will work on that coding.
And you do, I mean, you have even test kits
(26:31):
to identify the exact coating and what will remove it.
But the go to product for newer codings is the
Smart Strip Advanced you.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Say, Advance, or the Smart Strip Pro. Okay, either of
those two will work. The Smart strip Pro will work
on more of your advanced codings. What smart Strip Advance
is for your regular water based codings that you're going
to find a cric based paints and things like that
in the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, well, let's me kind of paint a picture
and you help me. Okay, so I got a dresser.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I'll help you strip it.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, help me do this. It's been in the family,
maybe just a generation, so it's probably thirty forty years
old maybe, And I don't know whether it's latex on there.
I don't know if it's just an oil based paint.
And you know, I'm gonna do it in January, so
I I you know, I kind of can't do it outside.
(27:27):
Maybe I could do it in the garage. May I
could do it in the basement. Maybe I could just
put some plastic and put leave it where it is.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Help me with that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
So first thing, I'd recommend that you really don't know
what's on there. I recommend getting the test kit online
testing it first, see which is the right product for you. Okay,
it's been in your family for a couple of generations.
You may lend towards the Peelawey product, which is really
good for your organics like lead based paints and things
(27:57):
like that. Okay, you're gonna you can use this indoors
or outdoors. You're gonna apply it. You're gonna use our
paper over the top of it, okay. And what that does,
it helps keep the product adhere to the surface. It
keeps it moist so it continues to work. So if
you have many layers, it's going to take some time
to come off, so you want that paper there to
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keep it, keep it moist. And then when you're ready
to remove it, it helps catch and capture what you're
scraping off that surface, Okay, and then you're gonna come
back with you. If you're doing a dresser, probably a
little squirt bottle with a little scoalaring pad to get
any residual. And that's really all you have to do
with our products. And if it's a newer dresser and
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you're gonna use one of the other gel strippers like
smart shript Pro or smart Sterrup Advance, it's really the
same process. You're gonna put it on, always put on
enough there you don't want it to dry, and then
you're gonna cover it. And then after that certain time
you want to take it off, you're just gonna scrape
it off into the paper, so you don't have to
scrape it off into a pail or into a bucket.
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It's going to be captured with that paper.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
So you helped me with this too. So a lot
of times I hear in my background of courses in
hardware stores and even ten years ago out here, I
bought that new stuff. And I'm not talking about your
brand in particular. There's a couple of brands out there.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Bought that new stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It don't work, it does work. You got to have
the right product right.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Correct, correct. And you know, we've had people that have
been using peel Away since its inception and it's worked
well for them because they're in older cities and the
chances of removing lead based paints or organics is pretty high.
But what they're finding now is is they're not getting
success with the peel Away because you think about it
(29:47):
in nineteen seventy eight, that's how many years ago, forty
something years ago, correct, and so anything that's a long
time ago so more than likely does have water based,
acrylic based paint on there. So they're choosing the wrong
product that goes back to again testing it to be sure,
(30:08):
because I don't want you to go out by one
of our products and not be happy with it. I'd
rather have you test find the right product and have
one offul success work because then you're going to tell
your neighbor, you're going to tell your friends about how
well these products work.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So I guess we need to focus in on the
test kits for people know where to get that and
exactly how a test kit works, and the expense of
that can work through that test kit's.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Going to range between fifteen and twenty dollars depending. You
can buy them online and on. The test kit consists
of It consists of a little court size of each
of our products. It's going to include little scouring pads,
a little trowel, gloves, the things that you need to test,
and the paper has instructions there and how to use
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it properly. So you're going to do a section of
each one, come back after a certain period of time,
give it a little scrape and see what it's doing,
because in some cases it may work very quickly. In
other cases where you have multiple layers and layers and
layers of paint, it's gonna take a little bit longer,
so you can kind of judge how long it's going
to take, and then you can figure out which is
(31:21):
a proper product for you because at the end of
the day, getting the jobs done right the first time, I.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Was just going to say, and regardless of you know,
how much time you have, you're going to narrow that
time down by testing it and making sure you got
the right stripper. And especially big projects. If you're talking
about stripping the doors in an old house, good chance
you'll need to peel away right number one correct, But
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testing it if you just yeah, boy, I see, I
see where there's issues there and why people get a
little disgruntled, and so I'm not going to do that project.
But really it's just a matter of testing and finding
out exactly what's on there. Because the whole codings industry
has flip flopped in the last fifty years.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
That's that's correct. And you know the little story here, Gary,
we had somebody contact us. They bought one hundred and
ten year old farmhouse and they went online and found
Pelola being great for removing older paints, and they happened
to call us and they ended up getting the test kit,
and again we're all pretty much convinced that it's going
to be Peloa because it's an old farmhouse. Correct, right, Well,
(32:34):
she ended up doing the test kit. Come to find
out it was a smart strip Advanced was the right
product for her. So you don't really know put your
doors in that house in nineteen eighty three, you don't
know if they were painted for the first time in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Eighty Oh, you don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Again, that kind of goes back to the testing and
again we were convinced it was PELOI. But she proved
this wrong with the test kit and proved it was
the smart of Advanced.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It was the right product for So you say online
is that Dumontglobal dot com? Is that where you get
to test kid?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Correct? You can go to Doland Global dot com. You
can just google it and find it on Amazon and
other places like that. Sherwin Williams is another opportunity for you.
You can talk to your local do A Best members
as well. They're participating to A Best Members to find
our products as well.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
So furniture refishing, refinishing as a whole is I mean
there used to be a lot of that is there's
still a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Of it there really is. I mean, there's a category
that I find it's growing quite a bit. Especially you're
getting second generation kids that are cleaning out their parents' house, right,
and that dresser was theirs. Now they're selling it in
the garage sale or they're putting it on the street.
And you know, I see videos out there all the
(33:56):
time with people finding Ethan Allen furniture, really high end
furniture that's been painted over the generations. Right, But there's
beautiful wood underneath there and just spectacular wood, and people
want to start protecting that. And we're finding also with
restoration projects and homes, instead of tearing out all this
beautiful wood.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And oh yeah, oh yeah, you can't afford to replace there.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
So yeah, you're getting in this beautiful old growth wood.
So why destroy it when you can strip it, restain
it and just have a beautiful you know, make it
look like it did one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Boy, I agree with you one hundred percent. I kind
of involved it. Habitat Humanity and the restores. There's over
six hundred stores nationwide, and there's some beautiful furniture in
these stores sometimes that are donated and gorgeous stuff which
brings me the next question. And we've been talking about
removing coatings, what about removing stain and you know, like
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a wood dining room set. I mean, does that have
to be tested? Does it have to be stained or
sand it does?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It depends help me.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
It really just depends on what you're removing, okay, and
you know in some cases you're gonna have to do
some sandy okay to get down to where you want
to be.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
But again, at the end of the day, when you
test you get the right item to remove what's on there,
you should have been a really good shape for success.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
DuMond Global dot Com. Trying to think if I've missed
any questions. But the bottom line here is I think
I think we need to test.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Huh.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
We we do, and again we want you to be
happy with our You know, we live in a world
today that if you if you're not successful with something, no, you.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
May go online and let people know, and it may
not be the right reason to let people know. And
so if you test it, you're going to get it
right of the time.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, And like you said, you're picking up a high
end piece of furniture. It's worth fifteen bucks to get
the right stripper, because you really got to find there.
I mean you got you got a great mess of furniture.
All right, I'm looking forward. We're gonna get together, I
know in September up at the Do It Best show
and we'll have.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
A chat again.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And it's a wonderful products and it's been around for
a long time and I certainly appreciate you joining me today, Adam.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Thanks Gary, It's always a pleasure, my friend.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, very good, thank you. It's Dumont. It's d
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Let's get the right one.
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Speaker 2 (39:44):
I had that conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And I wanted to replay it because I think it's
just very important I get asked a lot about environmentally
friendly strippers, and some of them, you know, are positive,
they work really well well, and then others like it
didn't do anything. And I start researching in different brands,
and you know, I start kind of honing in on
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the different types of pain. And as far as I know,
Demong Global is the only one that actually uses an
environmentally friendly stripper that has a test to find out
exactly what you're trying to remove. That's why you're successful
with that one. But the test hit pretty important. The
(40:33):
smart Strip Advanced is still going to take care of
probably eighty ninety percent of your coatings, but you get
into older houses and older furniture, you might want to
test it first to see what you're trying to remove.
And we thank him for joining us. Right before we
(40:56):
had a chat with Adam, we had a conversation about
the PEX pipe in a cross space and apologize, but
we kind of rambled for a little bit and kind
of ran out of time. He was in a cross
base and he was talking about, you know, eliminating the
insulation on the underside of the floor. It is similar
(41:18):
to the other fellow and he was talking about putting
and you want at least an eight mil plastic on
the ground overlapped with the same seams taped. But then
on the wall you can run that plastic up a
little bit, but also insulating that because in a lot
of cases, not all cases, but in a lot of
(41:40):
cases some of that's above ground too. You can insulate that.
You can also use the dry lock to stop water
vapor from penetrating, and then use the foam panel for
insulation and then eliminate the under the floor insulation. But
you're really gonna want to monitor what that temperature back
(42:03):
in that cross space is because if it still gets
below freezing or.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Still has a.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Draft right by a pipe, certainly we want to, you know,
eliminate the events. We want to eliminate cracks so we
don't have a draft. We want to make sure in
the the in between the joye on the sill that
that's insulated and the wall, and you want to use
(42:32):
a closed cell foam and again monitoring it making sure
it doesn't get below zero's key if it does. Insulating
the pipe the actual pets is important. And then when
you start getting into areas where it's right up and
(42:53):
against an area and there's a pocket back there. Just
use some loose fill or some pipe wrap and just
stuff it back in there. So you want to still
get that insulated. If it's if that whole area, even
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(43:14):
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you'll be you'll be in great shape. I won't have
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to worry about the freezing and you know, having water
poured down into that cross space and being infested with mold.
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