Gary Sullivan 8/17/2024 Hour 3

Gary takes your calls, tips and questions you have.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:29):
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All Right, we're talking home improvement and a busy day
it's been, so let's get right back to the phone calls.
And we got Randy. Randy welcome, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Thanks for taking my call. I'm a first time caller. Listen,
I've been listening to your gutter cleaning problems.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I had the solution, all right, definitely had the solution
because I was selling a house a couple of years
ago in the powerwash company says they would never get
those black stains out of there. So I just decided
to take it on myself, and I got up on
a ladder and I tried every chemical out there. I
tried bleaches, I tried auto detailing stuff, I tried the

(01:57):
bleach white. And the thing that I found that work
the greatest was awesome cleaner and a magic eraser. All
you need.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, The awesome cleaner was the one I said, I
couldn't remember. Yeah, it was Purple power and Awesome Cleaner
was the two that I was thinking of. The purple
power I got, but I forgot the name awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And different magic eraser with it, and you rinse it off.
I've used it on everything, anything vinyl, anything plastic. I
even use it on a camp or. I cleaned the
whole thing with the magic eraser.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And is that right? You know, it's interesting that the
pressure washing company didn't have something to spray it on there.
And the only reason I said that I had a company,
a great American powerwash, And they came and he was
showing me that I had some of those stains around

(02:51):
on the vinyl on the replacement windows, and I had
long since pain to gutters, so those weren't a problem.
And he did have a spray and he sprayed it
on and he didn't heat pressure washed it afterwards.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Is gone.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
But before that I used to use it. I don't
know if it was the It was a tire bleach
that I used, and I thought it was Wesley's and
it worked, and people just like today, uh Randy, people
would call up and say almost exactly what you said.
You know, I've tried so many different things and it
just doesn't work. But I found and you're you're you're

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you're right. I mean, the the awesome product. And and
you use the awesome with the magic eraser.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, you spray it on and with the magic and
it's gone.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, all right, cool. Well, the only thing out there
now is the cream cleanser. I got to see if
that works, because.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
You can plastic lawn chairs, vinyl fences, and I've tried
it on all that stuff and it.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Works super well. Thanks for sure, and I appreciate it.
All right, take care, all right, and Dave welcome, Hey, Dave, Hey,
how you doing doing fun? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Hey? Uh, I'm on a Saturday morning. I'm always cleaning
cars and stuff. And I know this topic of this
tire cleaner's come up in the last six months a
year and such, and uh so I'm looking at the
bottle right now, and it's made by company.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Called black Magic, called bleach White used to be the Wesleys,
like knows, and comes in a white bottle and it's
got some red decoration on it. But I use it
every Saturday cleaning tires on cars, and uh I also
use it on lawn, furniture and just all sorts of things. Okay,

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it's a great product, works on everything.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, we've got it. We've got it solid at three
different products that we're but there's a whole bunch that
don't work. So this is called black Diamond bleach White.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
No, it's black Magic. Black Magic Okay, black Magic the
name on it. Okay, actually made by a company called
iw Okay, black Magic is on the label.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
All right, Well cool, Hey, I appreciate the share. Okay,
thank you much, take care, bye bye. All right, So
everybody's going to be busy today. What about you? Gary?
Will you be busy? You know that's really funny. We
used to get this call we would go on these tangents.
I once a month ten years ago, once a month,

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and did that for three or four five years. And
it's so odd because the other day I was saying,
you know, we never get any calls anymore about the
black grayish staining on aluminum gutters, and I don't talk
about them because I ended up painting my gutters and
now I don't have that problem. But I'll tell you

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what we got into it today. And the black Magic
bleach Way awesome, uh, purple power. Those are the three winners.
And I'm gonna check somebody, or somebody can check for me.
Maybe if they got some of the Jaws cream cleanser.
I'm gonna bet that works, but I haven't used it,
so I can't say it did, so, uh, we'll see

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how that works out. All right, Let's go to Nathan. Nathan, Welcome,
good morning, morning.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Good, good good, always good to hear you on Saturday morning.
Has been listening for a long time. Appreciate your show,
you do, good job, Thank you. I was interested in
this zoiler uh sump pump and uh I have in

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my cross space. Uh the previous owner had put in
some uh sump like pumps uh uh to and and
had routed water. Both of those pumps are dead now.
And I noticed it was kind of a kind of
a little bit of a kind of a jerry rig job.

(07:14):
It seemed like, uh, it just kind of put like
a pail to catch the water and then put the
sump pump down in it. Is there a better way
of doing it? Because mud kind of comes into it?
And I don't know how how much that affected the

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pumps that both have died.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now, how long they last, Well.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
That's a good question. I just had a had some
some people that went up under there and said, your
pumps aren't working anymore. And so they were looking at that.
I was having some floor leveling done, and they were

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wanting to sell me on the undercoating everything under you know,
in the sheeting and and the whole thing, their removal
system and uh and the like with the with the
d humidifier and off which I'm not ready to go
to uh honeywise, So uh, I'm just trying to think of, uh,
is there a better way of prepping just because it's

(08:27):
not a basement, it's just under the house. Is there
a better way of prepping so that uh, it gave
them a better the pump a better job of exiting
the water.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well. So it's not even a crawl space or it
is a cross space. Yeah, it is all right. Yeah,
So you know when people call and everybody seems they
have problems with crawl spaces, damp crawl spaces, and the
two things is a if you were no sumps going

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and there are no pumps working, if they're standing water,
it's really about controlling the water table. And it sounds
like that's what you have. You just don't have natural
soil dampness. You have some flow that kind of goes
to that area and you get some standing water in there.
So and even if you don't have standing water, if

(09:24):
it still kind of comes into that area, and what's
the soil. Of course, you're going to have high humidity
and a lot of you know, water conditions and can
lead to mold and different things. But when you say
it sounds like a jury rigged type of situation, I
totally agree. I think, really what you need and it

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doesn't have to be a waterproofing company. You can get
a plumber in there. You need to they need to
dig an actual sump well, which is I don't know,
say thirty inches water, twenty four inches wide, thirty inches deep.
It's got slits in there. It allows the water. You know,
it's not about waterproofing. Remember, it's about water control. Water

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takes a path of least resistance. It gravitates to that
pit where there's you know, as long as it's empty,
and it gets emptied by the pump periodically, it gathers
the water you pump it away from the foundation. You
gather the water you pump it away from the foundation.

(10:26):
So you're controlling the height through your water table. You're
controlling the amount of water that's getting into your cross space.
So yeah, I think that's something you probably really need
to look into. The other stuff. You could do a
lot of that yourself if you want to. You know,
you can get a ten twelve mil plastic vapor barrier

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down on the floor, tape the seams, run it up
a foot up on the foundation and see if and
if you need a if you need a you mid
a fire or an air exchanging unit to keep that
relative humidity below sixty percent in the summertime, that might
be something you have to add. But once you start

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controlling the water and you get a vapor burger down
a lot of your problems go away.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was, I mean there was is.
There's plastic all up under the house.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, on the floor, yes, okay.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
On the dirt, on the dirt, and actually I think
they put it. Feels like they put gravel over top
and then put plastic.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well they didn't need to do that, but the gravel
on top just sold the plastic in place.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well, they wasn't on top of the plastic. It was
like on top of the dirt and then plastic put over.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
There might have been some plastic underneath that gravel to
begin with, okay, because back in the day they would
put plastic and then they put grab on top just
to hold it in place.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Okay, hard on the.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Knees, Yeah, that's real hard on the knees. But yeah,
I'd look into getting a sump well installed in there,
for sure. And a dollar pump is really an awesome pump.
And even if you want to put a backup in there,
you could do that also. But yeah, check into that.
I think that's well needed there. All right, we'll continue

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we go at Home with Gary Sullivan. We're twenty three
minutes after the top of they are taking your calls
regarding your home projects. And back to whork we go.
We got Ray Ray Welcome.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Yes, sir, as I was telling the other gentlemen, I
have a high efficiency furnace that goes through half of
my chimney. It's a double walled anyway sauce. In the winter,
it you know, it drips condensation because it's so efficient,
and that condensation lands on my you know, I guess

(16:10):
you call composition roof and at least this yellowish soft
looking stain. Have you heard this problem before?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
And no, I have not, not to say it isn't.
I just haven't bumped into that.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, I've looked online and everything else about you know,
you know something that will remove the stain and I
haven't come up with anything, And so it's just wonder
you're aware of that.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So do you think the and I don't know and
I haven't seen it, but do you think it is
a stain because of that type of condensation, or do
you think it's a reaction with the composite type of roof.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
I have no idea, but all I know is it
is right below where it drips out. You know, the
exhaust it goes up is lastic piping and in ware,
you know, the steam blows out and when it's cold,
you can see it blowing out. But the pipe also drips,

(17:15):
you know, conversation down on the right below it right
on the roof right bird lands and when it drives
it leads a yellowish, yellowish stain on my dark.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
So this may have nothing to do with her a
little bit. But not long ago, we were talking about
the condensation that comes out of the commonsaate pipe in
a furnace and how it can you know, cause drains
and metal to rust. And I'd say quickly and violently, okay.

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And I always noticed there was drains that were rustled.
I didn't know that the commensation was causing the problem.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
What kind of you're saying rust on? See, most of
the the exhaustion is the plastic piping. And also Ernest
has plastic piping for conversation.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, I understand, but this was like the condensation pipe
that was plastic, but it was in a floor drain. Okay,
so it is causing a floor drain. So and there
is a high p H on that water that's causing
that type of problem. And so all I'm saying is

(18:37):
I wonder if that same steam slash condensation is causing
the problem, and whether we could I don't know if
we can rop that steam somewhere else. I'm just thinking
out loud. I I I don't know what's going to
clean it. It's very well could be, you know, reacting

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at that composite. Some of those composites are plastic. I
don't know what type of composite roofing you have.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
Yeah, I've tried, you know, roof cleaner and stuff like that.
But you can't really scrub it because then you're going
to take the sand off of the It doesn't seem
to be eating the shingles, but it leaves that stain,
you know, and it's not the steam that's sitting it.
The steam is up higher, it drips down.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Why don't you try a little baking soda see if
we can neutralize that.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
Okay, that's an idea.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I mean, I think that's something I would try. Just
sprinkle it on, wet it down. I don't know if
it'll work. Keep listening, somebody may have some ideas. I
might even do a little bit of research. We'll continue
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All right, back at it we go thirty three minute,
it's at for the top of the hour. How's your weekend? Okay,
getting some things done around the home. Hey, if you
got a question regarding your project, feel free to join us,
and we're going to go to don Don Welcome.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
Thanks very much for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Do you hear me?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
I have a brick ranch, three bedroom built in the
late sixties, and underneath the garage.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Is a cistern. Okay.

Speaker 8 (23:28):
The cistern joints my basement and I put access to
the cistern from the basement and I use it for storage.
The problem is they poured like the floor in my garage.
They poured like two inches of concrete. Then they put
down a re rod, and then they poured another two
inches of the concrete. Okay, so the bottom two inches

(23:48):
of concrete a chump fell out, which is about a
foot wide, about two foot long, and about.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Two inches thick.

Speaker 8 (23:56):
So I don't know who to get in contact with
or what kind of al I would use to put that.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Back in place. So do you have the piece, yes,
but it's.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
Kind of you know, I do have most of the piece.
It kind of chipped away a little bit, but that's
not a problem.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I do have the.

Speaker 8 (24:17):
Piece, yes, So what are you looking at at another piece?
It's about one foot wide, about four foot long. It's
ready to come down.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And this is at the top of the cistern. Is
that correct?

Speaker 8 (24:34):
Top of the system, Yes, the top of the cistern,
the bottom of the garage floor. Yeah, I don't know
which way to go.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, So if it weren't overhead, I would have some idea.
If it's above it makes it a little bit more
difficult because I think we're going to need some support mechanism.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
I've got no problem with supports, Okay, I don't temporary supports.
I don't want no permanent supports because I got them.
It has four colums underneath the garage floor.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Okay, okay? And where where is this? Is this piece
on the edge?

Speaker 8 (25:24):
No sign up next to a colum.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Next to a column? Yeah, you know, I can tell
you how to patch it. The problem is it's a
big patch, and I don't I can't really think of
how you're going to make a big patch. Like if
you had a corner of a step that's the size
of a basketball, that's one thing. If you're talking something,

(25:49):
you know, I'd probably get a masonry company out there
and let them take a look at I I have
a little difficulty visualizing how it looks. You know. Again,
if there's different cements like anchoring cements, and there's different
slumps of concrete, and then there's mortars that can be

(26:11):
used overhead, those are all things that may work. But
then when you're talking the foot long and it's you know,
several feet long, that kind of is a whole different ballgame.
And is there something to bond that concrete too? I mean,
it's not just a hole, right, oh yo, I.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
Would bond it to the bottom of the existing floor
where it came out.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Of, right, And what's the size on that?

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Again, no problem doing it.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. What's the size of that
concrete again.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
That's probably a foot wide and about two foot long
and it's about two inches thick.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
How heavy is it?

Speaker 8 (26:56):
Probably weighs I'd just say fifty sixty pounds, which that's
not a problem, know mm hmm. I mean I can
do anything Tipperary, but I'm having trouble finding a right
kind of material to hold it up to glue it
back together.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, so yeah, I hear you. Obviously it would have
to be temporarily supported. You got that. I mean you
can get like a four by four and maybe even
a jack or even a two by two something to
support it, and two floor jacks.

Speaker 8 (27:27):
I got, yeah, I got all kind of jacks.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, and then you need, you know, a couple extra
set of hands. So it's really about the strength of
the product that you're going to hold up. And one
of the things I would do is, you know, a
good quality, quick grab, top of the line construction adhesive.

(27:49):
I don't know what the holding power is on that,
all right, You're gonna have to find that out off
their website. And what I would do is go to
the Gorilla Glue website. They make three different types of
con construction adhesive. I forget what they call them, but

(28:14):
it's you know, like a gold silver bronze, you know.
I mean, there's three different levels. The top of the
line has the most holding power. It's also not that
you're gonna be underwater doing it, but that's one of
its features. And it's also a quick grab means you
don't need to support it, but you're gonna need to
support it, all right. That's the one I would use

(28:37):
their top of the line, Yes, and just read about
the holding power. I just don't know what it is,
and it'll probably have you probably have it listed by
pounds per square inch, so a little more research, but
that would be one of the top of the line

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that comes to mind for me.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Okay, I'll try them. It's just like I can do anything,
no problem, wantsoever. I got everything I need. I do
not have the knowledge of what material to use.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, and and again that that's one aspect of it.
The other aspect of it is maybe we just replace
that particular piece.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
And I know I don't mind doing that either, but.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Right so there is a uh, there's two products that
come to mind on that. One of it is called
rock patch, which is a non masonry type of product,
but it is a patch and you put it on

(29:51):
in layers of half inch thicknesses. It's pretty thick. I
don't know if it can be used overhead. That that
would be have to be something. You'd have to check
that out on their website also, And then the other
one is there. Yeah, and quick Read also makes one
called Premium Mortar Patch, which is designed to be used

(30:15):
overhead and on vertical surfaces. So that's another option, and
it's for stucco. You can fill it in with that.
All right, very good, thank you much, take care. Probably
a lot more to delve into there. Again, I'm spitballing it.

(30:39):
I can't even see what it looks like. I don't
know how heavy it is. I don't know if I'm
a real big fan of just, you know, gluing it
up there. Don't even know if it can be glued
up there. Probably filling it and making that patch would
be more ideal. Keeping in mind that concrete doesn't like
to stick to concrete, so a bonding agent would have
to be used. Probably some support would have to be used,

(31:02):
and I think it's probably a little bit I can't
tell you how to fix that without seeing it. I mean,
and maybe you get a contractor in there to take
a look at that too, because the other thing we
hadn't even discussed is with that piece missing, how much
of the integrity of the garage floor have we lost?

(31:25):
You know, what is that support mechanism? And again the
answer is I don't know, and he didn't know. And
getting a professional in there to really take a look
at it, or a structural engineer even to recommend, and
a lot of people, you know, soon you say that
it's like, oh god, that cost me a fortune. Yeah,

(31:47):
well it won't, Okay, you might be surprised for a
consultation on a problem and be able to make sure
that the repair we're doing is going to even work,
that it's going to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish.
I know, we all like to have our ideas. All

(32:09):
this I work and I'm throwing out product names. I
can't see the problem everybody, and I include myself in this.
Sometime everybody looking forward something that can that'll be a
quick fix something like that. I don't know if the
interior that garage floor is compromised and using it for storage,

(32:30):
and it might be getting a consult through a structural
engineer to be able to determine a is that safe?
I mean they have bridge inspectors. Right, let's find out
if it's safe. And then that structural engineer also probably
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see it and then maybe have some ideas under repair,
all right, not making excuses, just telling you kind of
the way it is. Not everything can be answer without
seeing it and answer with something that can. And Fellas
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doesn't have really all the data for sure. All right,

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let's go to Elaine. Elaine, welcome.

Speaker 9 (36:47):
Hello. I bought what I thought were outside stepping stones.
They're beautiful mosaics. I bought about twenty of them. A
few years ago I found out they're not outside. Put
some outside and over the winter the backs disintegrated, and

(37:07):
I'm looking for a company that could maybe cover them
with a resin. Do you know of any company? What
do you.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Mean?

Speaker 9 (37:23):
Well, you know, I mean you you talk about the dice,
I imagine that's a resin that they put you know, well.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's an acrylic resin coding. But that's what I'm clear.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
Well, it doesn't have to be real. Well, there's they've
got coatings in them. I mean, is there any place
that is.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
You know?

Speaker 9 (37:49):
You you see you see clear acrylic resins on different products,
and I was wondering, is there any company that I
could take these two because they are beautiful and get

(38:09):
them codd within a clear you know, with a clear resume.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I don't know if taking them to a company. You
know all these when you get these little magazines with
people doing like garage floor coatings and things like that. Yeah,
you know, I don't know if they use acrylic resin coatings.

(38:35):
They use epoxy coatings. I don't know if they would
do your tiles or not. But that's an option. You
mentioned the dice coatings. They make a seiler called traffic Safe,
which is a clear slip resistant coating. What are you
trying to do when you put that on? Is just
protect them?

Speaker 9 (38:55):
Yeah, just protect them, just to keep them from disintegrating,
because telling you they are absolutely beautiful. And I got
them for two dollars apiece, and yeah, they were probably
made in China or something. And because it's not a
regular I found out as well. You know, I assume
they would be for outside, but they're not. I thought

(39:16):
it was a concrete back on them, but it wasn't.
It looks more like a slate mixture.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, there's stone seilers that are out there again. I
you know, a stone seiler, that's one option. Granite Gold
makes all kinds of stone seilers. I don't know what
company's going to do that for you.

Speaker 9 (39:36):
I don't know, going to do it myself if I
can just find well, that's what I'm thinking to put
on it.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
That's that's what I'm saying too. You know, we talked
about the dry lock, which is a waterproof coating that's clear,
and it's for basement floors and basement walls. It's a
waterproof coating. It's a thick coating. It's clear. That may work.
I don't know. I mean, we can google a coating

(40:05):
for a mosaic tile for outside that is an indoor tile,
and you're not going to come up with any answers,
you know. I think we're trying to.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
That's why I'm called. I didn't and you've been around
for so long.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I didn't know.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
And I did think about calling uh Diche, you know,
and asking them if I could even buy some of
their stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, I mean the Diche coatings. You know, it is waterproof,
it can be used, and it is an acrylic resin
coating that could be used on a patio to pretend it.
So you could certainly use that on the tile. But
you know, your your tile isn't concrete obviously. I don't know.

(40:52):
I don't know what it is, and I would assume it.

Speaker 9 (40:55):
Ta glass mosaic and what they are. They're toy fish
and water lilies, and they're just you know, they're just
absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
But one of the things that I would probably look
at would be the dry lock clear. That would be
one of the things I would look at. There's an
excellent product which is a tripolymer, a silicon tripolymer, which
is called geocil geo ce l. It's brushable, it's clear,

(41:34):
it's almost like a thickness of a syrup. It's water proof.
You can put it on chimney tops. So that would
be a pretty good option too.

Speaker 9 (41:48):
Would I be able to buy that from what's that
concrete place that's.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
You can get the gail. You can get geosil brushable
sealer at some hardware storage. You can get it on Amazon,
you can buy it in a court.

Speaker 9 (42:07):
Okay, you think I can buy it from ace? Yeah, Okay,
that's good.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
So you know whether whether it'll work. I mean, it's
a great it's a great ceiling. Whether it works for
that time, I don't know it'd be worth a try.

Speaker 9 (42:24):
Oh I think concrete it should cover this. And they
really aren't going to be walked on. It's they're just
for decorative purposes.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Well, might give it a try. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
you know that's probably about as good as I could
come up with. I don't think you know you can
do it. I mean it's brushable and it'd be clear,
has good UV resistance. So give it a try. Appreciate
the call. All right. Yeah that's a that's a tough one. Right,

(42:55):
Oh golly, that's a tough one. So A good good
point here though, and that is, you know, a lot
of tiles their indoor and a lot of tiles are
can be used outdoors. And it also depends where you live.
And because I get this question a lot. Can I

(43:15):
just take ceramic tile and put it over my patio? Well,
you could use a porcelain tile. If you have a
moderate climate, you can use a porcelain tile. But make
sure how they rate it. You know. Another thing to do,
since it is a tile, you might go to like

(43:36):
Florida Tile, bring your mosaic tile, let them take a
look at it. To me, I think the problem is
this is a cheap tiles. You bought it for two bucks.
She's putting it outside and it's an indoor tile. On
top of that, and that's going to cause problems, and
it is. And so we don't know what that tile is.

(43:57):
And she didn't know what that tile was. She knows
it's purty and inexpensive, which is probably two of the
reasons why it's probably falling apart.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Whether that brushable ceilant it'll keep the water off it,
it'll keep it from absorbing water, it'll block the sun.
Whether that's going to allow that to thrive outside that
I can't answer. All right, Dan, at the other side
of the hour, we will get you. We got Glenn, Joe, Mike, Linda,

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you can join us. We'll continue. You're at home with
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