August 2, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, the best time of the day. I get to say,
good afternoon. Welcome Now our number four and you're at
home with Gary Sullivan, where we take your calls regarding
your home projects. Seven nine fifty five hundred. That is
the number, and certainly you can step in and join
us for uh, well, for about a year or so,
I've been talking about a company called Cincinnati Drywall, and
(00:23):
uh we're going to have a Philip mod On, he's
obviously with Cincinna Drywall, learn a little bit about the
company and what they do, and talk about some of
their building businesses residential construction, and also talk a little repairs.
And we'll be doing that at the twelve thirty mark.
In the meantime, you and I again, it's five one three,
(00:45):
seven nine fifty five hundred and Barry welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hello, Gary.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yes, take taking advantage of this. Everybody's complaining about the
warm weather and all the rain. I picked three gallons
of green beans this morning, so I'm breaking beans.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
There you go, so some well, everything's growing this year.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Weeds especially, Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna order some of the
leaf guard brushes.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
The gutter brush, but I'm about my gutters. What is
the measurement of the gutter, is it at the top
or the top like pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Different the inside of the top. So your most standard
gutter is probably five inch, and that's the inside diameter
of the top of the gutter. And you know, I
haven't done this, but you know, even if you got
the wrong size by a size, I bet they'd still
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slide in. Not two sizes up, but a five inch
gutter brush is the normal sized gutter, and literally you
just slide them right.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
In, right, Okay. I'm measured the top that was six inches,
and then I order measured the bottom, which is the smallest.
It was four inches. Is where I need to go.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, if you're on the inside diameter of that gutter,
you know they got another thing too. Well. It doesn't
do the diameters. On their website at gutterbrush dot com,
you can put in your address and they can give
you exactly how many feet of guttering you have, and
they may be even able to tell you the size
of the gutters. Okay, but it's usually usually the measurement
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is from the inside diameter of the top of the.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Gutter, okay, which okay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So it doesn't have to fit all the way down
because you know.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm getting from what you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, it probably is a five inch cutter. That's so common.
I'm seeing more and more people put in six inch
cutters with the amount of rain we've been having.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Right, yeah, Okay, one other question, if you had time.
I've got a basement. It's got uh it's an older home.
It's got the what is the five inch howel uh
on the floor. I'm sure there's asbestos under that or
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any Yeah, because of the date of the home. If
I clean that very very well, can I use a
dice coating over top of that?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'll bet you can. The one thing I would be
careful of, I know that asbestos tar and the adhesive.
Are all those tiles solidly to the floor, because those
are really when it dries out, and those type of tiles,
they're nine inch squares, they do come loose. You you
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don't have any problem. It's all tightly bonded.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, yes, no problem.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And there's no waxing that's taking place or anything. They're
just kind of old basement tiles, right. Yeah. You know,
preparation is always the key, so they got to be
clean and dry. I don't know how clean they are.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, how would you recommend cleaning.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That just soaping water? I wouldn't go any heavier than.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That, okay, okay, yeah, and then you think that dice
coding would I think.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It would yeah, yeah, especially those older tiles. I mean
you can always you know, send them an email. But
I I think the you know, spread stone or the
roller rock will go over that asbestos tile goes over concrete.
You know. Again, I think just good clean surface. I
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think you'll be fine if you want to double check
with them, or it may have on their directions which
are on their website too, but I'm most certain you can, okay,
you know because yeah, mainly because of the type of tyle.
If it was a shinyl vinyl, i'd tell you no.
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But those things were just they're as hard as a rock.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah. No, this home was probably built in the late fifties.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Sure, yeah, oh yeah, there's definitely that. Yeah, that adhesive
has got asbestos in it, That tyle's got asbestos in it.
The fact, it'd probably be an advantage putting the roller
rock on because you basically encapsulate that then.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right yeah, okay, well, thank you very much, and.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, very good, thank you. Yeah, but yeah, just
reading the directions, I'll tell you there's a difference, a big,
big difference between the type of tile he's having in
some of the maybe the vinyl flooring that was a
Sheik Good maybe twenty twenty five years ago. Probably wouldn't
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paint that, though. I will tell you some of the
regular tile. I'm talking regular tie, I should say flooring tie.
The twelve by twelve's made in the eighties. You can
paint that. You may paint it every five years, but
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you can paint that. So I would be uh, not
hesitant a painting that tile. I would just make sure
that at that time is in fact strongly bonded to
the slab itself. There we go, Now, we got it
all right, Let's go to Dan.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Dan Welcome, Hey, good afternoon, Gary.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I've got composite siding on my house and they're on
the lip that's got an inch lip. It's kind of
deteriorating in a few places, and it looks like the
woodpeckers have been doing a job on it. I heard
you talk about liquid wood and a woody POxy.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
How do I apply that?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, let's make sure it's going to work on this sighting. Okay,
do you know the manufacturer of that sighting?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I'm sorry, do.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know the manufacturer of that sighting? No, but I.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Can't get it anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They stop making it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah. Is it a masonite sighting.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yes, it's like a masonize ok.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
All right, so that masonite signing. Yeah, there was quite
a few class action lawsuits with that, and it also
and maybe it did this also. It kind of swells
at the end of the sighting and then it gets
kind of a bubble on it, and then it kind
of gets chipped away, and birds could be doing that too,
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So I don't. I don't know. I had that on
my very was the first something that was my second home.
I had that masonite sighting on there, and there wasn't
a real good way to repair that. Let's put it
that way. I don't because masonite's sighting is almost like
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paper that's compressed together and it swells and then you know,
I don't, I don't. I don't know if that I
would use that or I would It's gonna be hard
to chisel it away smooth. I can tell you that
because I had tried that years ago. But if you did.
(09:14):
Maybe even something like a bondo for like cars, Yeah,
something that may. I don't think that would. A pox
would really it might, but I don't think it really
attached as well. I would look at maybe in a
uh an exterior spackling or a bondo product like a
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fiberglass okay, and maybe experiment with that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Another question, what could I replace that with that siding?
Is there anything out there would or another concrete type U?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I mean you can, you can replace it. I mean,
like I said, it was early in my second home.
So I just put vinyl over it and hit it.
So we put a you know, we put a kind
of a eighth inch thick insulating board or rap on
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the outside. And then when vinyl sighting over it and
you know that looked fine, you could, uh you could
tear it off or you could probably I don't know
about the cement board siding, but you could take a
look at you know, certainly going to be more expensive.
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LP makes one siding that looks very much like that
particular siding.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's been out for a number of years, no problems
with it, comes with a twenty five year warranty. It's thicker.
It you could get a vertical siding or horizontal sighting.
Take a look at that and see if you could
just go right over the surface with that.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And who makes that?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
What's the name.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
LP, Louisiana Pacific LP Sighting.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
LP Siding.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Okay, all right, I'll check that out.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's on an area.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
It's on I've got a wood stove pipe. Wood stove
pipe that goes up and I've got it and closed,
so it's like sixteen inches on the sides and four
on the face.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And that face.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Is where the woodpeckers and get some get some water
on right, So right, Uh, that's that's what I'm trying
to replace or repair.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
All right, all right, give that try. You might even
look at some if it's that, you might even get
some like a cement board that looks like a stucco
or something like that. Make it a little different and
do that box like that and go over it. Okay,
and then just you know, some corner beating on both.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Uh huh, okay, all right, I appreciate the info.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
All right, Dan, good luck to you. Take care, bye bye,
take a little break. When come back. We got mel
and then we're gonna get to our friends and talk
a little construction, not destruction. Well, sometimes you gotta do
the destruction to do the construction. All right, we'll continue.
You're at Home with Gary Salvan right here on fifty
five K or see the talk station. All right, back
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here we go, twelve twenty two on your Saturday at
Home with Gary Salvin. A quick reminder, we are back
at it at nine am on Sunday. We'll take the
excursion nine to noon. In the meantime, if you missed
an hour today's show, there's a few podcasts you can
catch up on because each hour of the show Danny
does set a podcast up on the iHeart app. It's
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at Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, let's go to
mel Mel.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
All welcome, good afternoon. Last Saturday, you had somebody call in.
They want to know how to get rid of the
lazarus lizards. Yep, well I have a all natural solution.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
They need to get either a hunting dog or a
hunting kitty cat. I would suggest the kitty cat over
the dog because you would have far less digging, or
at least smaller patches of digging.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Sounds good, And as we were even talking last week,
you know it's amazing. I say it all the time,
and doing the show for thirty nine years, never had
that call before. I didn't know what the lazars lizard
was easy for me to say. But you know, one
of the things that if they are annoying, maybe they are,
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maybe they aren't, but they love to get into those
little crevices. And as I think, I looked up some
information during one of the breaks and it was really
kind of goes back to whenever we talk about you know,
we just had the quick conversation about birds on the
sighting and we get woodpeckers and the lizards and snakes
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around wood piles, and it's all about really changing their environment.
You know, taking away what they want. Doesn't mean we
got to hurt them, It doesn't mean we gotta do anything,
but you know, clean up the area they love where
they can hide, right, so you know, sticks and leaves
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and bushes trimmed up and things like that, those are
that's going to be very helpful just changing that that
environment up. And then one of the things like if
it's a stone wall and that's usually where they are
warming themselves or running across the tops and everything else,
and if there's crevices in there. Maybe there was some
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mortar stone missing mortar. That's where they're you know, going
in getting that patched. I remember one article I was
reading and said, cover the stone. Well, I don't think
you want to do that, but could That would certainly
change the environment. They wouldn't have much use for that
area anymore. But yeah, changing that environment certainly a way
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to do that. Thanks much for the call, and boy,
and that so much means in every type of pest.
I was talking about snakes, and I'm always preaching about
as a lot of people are right now. If you
buy firewood, maybe you you know, got a nice stove
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and it won't be long I guess, and we'll be
using the stoves again. But you got to have the
firewood season. And so many people I see it all
the time. They'll stack that stuff right up against the house,
which is not the place to put it. And then
when the leaves fall in the autumn and it gets
behind the wood, you have a perfect environment for critters
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and snakes and stuff like that. And you're protecting the woods,
so you're not really even giving the wood the opportunity
to dry out. Or maybe you have a bunch of
bushes in your front yard or in your backyard, and
behind that, we've got leaves from last fall. We never
rake them up last fall, we didn't rake them up
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in the springtime, and they're still there. That's the environment
critters like to live in, right, I mean, they're protecting.
They're looking to be protected too. And until you change
that and eliminate the hiding places, you're going to have them.
So changing that environment and the key. Now back to
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the firewood. If you want to if you're buying the
wood and you want it, you know you want it
seasoned or dried out, put it out where you know,
out in the middle or on the property line where
the wind can blow through it, and don't cover it
up all the way down to the ground, because there's
ground moisture and that's going to radiate up through the
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wood and you got a plastic covering on it, and
you're gonna it's not gonna be seasoned quite as rapidly
as if you just have maybe the top row covered
or not covered at all, and just let the sun
beat down on that and help season that wood. I've
mentioned the last couple of weeks. If you are buying
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wood and if you take a piece of that wood
and you drop it on and you drop one of
those logs and split logs on the concrete and it
sounds like a bowling ball thud, it's not seasoned. If
you drop it and it sounds like a baseball bat
and goes ping, yeah, it's season Or look at the
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end of that log and just see if it's cracked
or if the grain is raised a little bit, that's
a sign that it's seasoned. Also, so a couple of
things to be mindful of when you're getting replacement or
not replacement, but when you're getting some firewood. All right,
So coming up, Philip Mott will be joining us. He
is with Cincinnati Drywall. We're going to talk about basement
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remodeling or adding space to your home and maybe a
little drywall repairs and hanging drywall and some tips. A
good guy, and we'll be chatting with him after the
next break, so we'll continue. You're at home with Gary
Sullivan right here on fifty five K see detalk station.
All right, back at it we go, twelve thirty four
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it is and you're at home with Gary Sullivan. I
know one thing that has been a trend probably for
the last four to five years, especially when we all
had to work at home trying to find more room
in our houses or in homes basements being remodeled. Maybe
not the fancy theaters or maybe the fancy theaters, maybe
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just an office, maybe a little gym. But remodeling is
important now because well you all read the news and
hear about houses and construction. It doesn't have what I want.
I'd like where I live, et cetera, et cetera. So anyway,
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joining us now is Jacob Gundler and he is the
vice president of Cincinnati Drywall. And Jacob, welcome to that
home with Gary Salvin. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
How you doing Gary? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You're quite welcome. So tell us a little bit about
Cincinnati Drywall.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Well, Cincinnati Drywall has been a family owned business for
the well I'm for generation in the last fifty years,
so since nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, people are always asking me, Jacob, who can you
recommend to do so and so, and I always say,
look for longevity, and this isn't that the truth? Fourth generation? Congratulations?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Yeah, thank you very much. I'm a technically step family,
but still fourth generation.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You still count Jacob. So you do remodel and new construction,
you do both. Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
We're about we're about ninety residential. We'll do a little
bit of commercial, but yeah, we'll we work mostly in
people's homes.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So very good. You specialize in any particular project or
I guess once you're in construction, you're in construction. You
can get it done.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Yeah, we pretty much do anything and everything when when
it comes to, uh, basically building a wall or as so, yeah,
well we like I mean, we'll do anything from a
small patch on the wall to you know, a custom
home build.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
So yeah, we basically do anything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, well, let's start with the uh, let's start with
the houses, the construction. Now we'll get to the remodeling,
and if we have time, we'll get some patches because
I know, boy, that used to be a trade. There
were so many people in it. I you know, plasters
and all that, and it just you know, there's well
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we try to do it, Jacob, but never looks the same. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah, so yeah, we we fixed plaster with drywall. We don't,
I mean, we'll do some like struct a light to
fill back plaster, and then we like to use a
substance called good wall, and it's like fiberglass sheathing. So
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we actually will fix whole plaster homes with with glidwall.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Is that glidwell kind of like a wall liner? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
It's it's a fiberglass sheathing. So it it comes in
like three foot by four hundred foot rolls. It's really
easy to cut. However, it is not fun to handle.
It's very It's like, you know, it's like handling insulation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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but yeah, we'll put it. We basically will roll on
like an all purpose glue based mud, and then we'll
squeegee that fiberglass sheathing over top of the wall and
it will solve further plaster cracking. And it has a
really good tenhile strength once it's put on.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, you know, that's I don't know, we're going to
talk about trends too, I hope. But there's a lot
of things on our walls and ceilings we love to hide,
and that's cracks, patched cracks. And I don't know, can
you use different products over like old popcorn or not
old popcorn ceilings, but popcorn ceilings. I think a lot
of people you know, don't have a great love for those.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Yeah, what we do there actually the best thing we
the best solution we have come up with over the years,
and we've been doing it for clearly a long time,
is rather than smoothing them, we like to actually just
hang new drywall.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Over top of them.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean you're you know, you double layer drywall
for firewalls.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And stuff like that. You know, you might as well
have ceiling anyway, and you know you're looking at a
half inch You'll never you'll never notice that difference in
ceiling height.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Sure, and it.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Just turns its just turns out to be a better
product in our opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
That's mostly our solutions. Unless the if the textures really like,
we'll go ahead and smooth them. We have no problem
doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But we like the wa Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, well that's where you're a fourth generation company, is
you want to look great?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, definitely we are in that quality, high quality
drywall product.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That's sure.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Since at Drywall, do you do just a Cincinnati area,
do northern Kentucky, Indiana? The whole works?
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Yeah, we're basically in our radius around our shop, which
is it's on Wilmer Avenue right across from London Area Airport.
So yeah, we'll do about an hour race around there anywhere,
and we go a little bit Indian into Indiana and
you know far as South Dayton and excellent, excellent.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So let's talk a little bit about new construction, not
necessarily how you build. I already know how you build,
or you wouldn't be around, right, What kind of what
kind of trends and what kind of things are important
in new construction? Right now? What's what's hot? What's the trend?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Well, I think a new trend that we've been kind
of getting into is a lot of that modern. It's
just a modern look like to a lot of people
are getting into the light, like you know, light pockets,
and I would say, like like the false like lighting,
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they'll do, right, they'll do like the you know, finish
around lighting. And as far as drywall goes anyway, what there,
it's like a I don't even know how to describe it.
It's definitely, I mean, it's just a modern look that
people like. And you'll, I mean, we get into some
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different beads that will have to put on for that
that make it look I guess I don't even really
know how to describe it, but.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
So maybe more sleek, more square, you know, almost almost
like a glass panel garage doors, I know, the Avalon's
out there now and a lot of black and white.
Are those all trends?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, how about the I want I used to always
say ninety percent of your your entertainment always takes place
in the kitchen, So you want to have a big kitchen. Yeah,
I see people putting in you know, two dishwashers and stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Now, yeah, the kitchen islands are going crazy. And then yeah,
big kitchens and vaulted ceilings open. That's you know, that's
a big trend too, is.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
People are opening up those.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Because we do a lot of remodels, people are opening
up their their walls and stuff. It's much more open.
So they're putting in L B l's and you know
the ceilings and passing partition walls that they took out,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, where's the where's the barn door sitting? These days?
That's still hotter or fading away?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
That I think that's kind of fading away. I agree, Yeah,
I think a big thing now is pocket doors. Yeah,
that's that's everybody likes those. They just they don't take
up any space.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, you don't have to display the.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Right exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So I guess really with the new construction part of Cincinnati,
drywall and the uh residential remodels, they kind of blend
hand in hand. We all kind of want the same things.
I know, if you live in an older home and
it just has to be you know, twenty five thirty
years old, and you love the neighborhood and you love
the people, and you you know, the pricing of homes
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anyway scares a lot of people off, and you like, really,
all we need, we need to open this house up
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And right that's where the remodelers like to get into.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Uh those plaster houses.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
From the nineteen seventies and below. The drywall actually came
into effect around the seventies, So you get that transition
period and sometimes you'll get the plaster board houses, you'll
get the plaster laugh houses before the board. Like, I mean,
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there's just there's those different transitions for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It's it's it is amazing how business practice or building
practices change consumer once Angine, you get those homes in
the twenties and thirties, there's no closets because you know,
you had a Sunday outfit, you had a weekday outfit,
and you had your work outfits or your clothing. Yeah,
you don't need much closet space.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
And yeah, and I had I think the master bedroom
had a one foot by four foot closet and yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen people now turn small rooms into closets.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
So So when you meet with people, Jacob, do you
start with do most of your clients know what they
want or they're really just kind of you know, got
some pictures, got some ideas, And I guess that personality
means a lot, right, you're kind of a consultant in
the beginning.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Were definitely.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
We we like to help our customers out as best
as we can. If we don't have to get it,
you know, general contractor involved, well, we'll definitely try to
go that route to keep it cheaper on them. But yeah,
so basically I get a little bit of both. Usually
people know what they want and want what they want done,
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but every once in a while I will get that
like what should I do first?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You know?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And actually with the popcorn ceilings, you were talking about
a lot of people don't like them, right, and they'll
want to change lighting in the ceilings.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
So what why we recommend too is overlaying the ceiling
with near drywall. Is that electrician can go in and
do whatever the heck he wants to the ceiling as
far as cutting holes and you know, right going on
the ceiling, changeing lighting, and then we'll come in after
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he's done wiring up everything and you know, overlay the ceilings.
That's that's a big part of that process. Sure, telling
people what they should do and what their next steps
would be. And we're pretty good at telling people that.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think, yeah, I think a lot of times as
homeowners or as people that want to be homers, we
have a lot of ideas, but we're scared. We're scared,
we don't know what's this going to cost. How do
we put this whole thing together? If you don't mind,
Jacob will take a little break. We'll come back and
talk about you know, the things that advice you can
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give that person, what should they be working on even
before they call you. So sit tight, we'll take a break.
You're at home with Gary Sullivan on fifty five K
see Detalk station. All right, Becket, do we go Jacob Gumbler,
he is the vice president Cincinnati Drywall, and we're talking
about construction and new construction and patch and plaster drywall.
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We got everything going on, fourth generation business right here
in the greater Cincinnati area. And Jacob, when you have
somebody call, maybe it's a I want to finish a
basement and I want I want this, this, this what
what advice? Or I want to build a new home.
Kind of give me some advice. What would you like
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to see a customer come prepared for? Does it start
with a budget? I guess or.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
A, well, it's.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
It doesn't. Normally it doesn't really start with a budget.
I usually, I mean, if I'm going in, I usually
recommend the cheapest option for the customer. But I like
to do things right as well, So if it does
it might need to cost a little more extra, you know,
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money to do it right, then I usually try I'll,
you know, convince the customer or to you know, go
that route, just because you know you'll have I mean,
if I'm going in and bending some water damage on
a ceiling or something like that where they're kitching think
leaked into the basement, ceiling, and you know it maybe
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maybe it's just a small spot in the bathroom and
you know, sometimes you can just cut that out and
repair it, or sometimes it just needs more extensive repair
and you don't want. I don't like to go the
cheaper route, right just you know, cheaping.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Cheaping of a java. But we like like high quality.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So yeah, so I usually go the the cheapest route
possible until you know it needs to be different.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, I think you hit on a big thing and
then maybe you can elaborate on this. But I feel
like one of the most important things, especially remodeling, uh
situation that homeowner is gonna live with you for a while,
and you're gonna live with that homeowner for a while,
and I think probably the most important thing is you
get along and there's good communication.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yes, absolutely, yeah that is That's so basically I guess
our process. You could say, I go in, I tell
the customer, you know, this is what we should do.
This is a process, and then I actually I so
we get to basically the scheduling will say hey, this
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is this is your schedule date. We keep that schedule
and we like to be there every day until we
we you know, knock out their project as we get.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It and as soon as we can. No, we like to.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Be there every day, every day, you know, around eight
thirty until it is finished. Unless you know, we run
into you know, everybody runs into difficulties. Sometimes sometimes you
need a dry day so you'll you know, the mud
just didn't drive properly, so you got to wait.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Another day to let it drive.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Sure, sure, Yeah, we like to.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Take care of the customer as quickly and as efficiently
as possible.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well, that is the name of the game, because you know,
whether the homeowner realized the or not, I mean, your
partners and for a while, depending on how extensive that
project is. And you got the skills of also the
whole drywall and plaster thing. And I'm sure in a
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remodeling that's invaluable to have just to make those transitions.
And a lot of times too, I mean, you see
the the the trend to people moving in older homes
and stuff and maybe thinking they're going to do all
that work themselves, or maybe they know they're not going
to do all the work. But there's there's a lot
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to learn, in a lot to do. If explain that
to people, is is is a talent, I mean.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Communications and even just how you know, just how messy
the the actual project can be also a huge factor,
especially in the remodeling processes and being in people's homes.
It's quite a quite a clean up to have to do.
And even you know, even after we're gone, if you
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don't paint it right away, you know, dust will just
kind of fall from the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's just the nature job.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Yeah, and like to is, so once we get them scheduled,
we actually hand them off to We have a supervisor
scheduling supervisor is Kenny and he he does a great
job for us. And the customer is always in contact
with us too, but Kenny one running the job and
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making sure everybody's where they need to be. And sure
that's kind of our process, but they can always get
in bat with us at the office.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, as I say, in remodeling, there's always destruction before construction.
So let's make sure we got our expectations in line. Yes, absolutely,
all right, So Jacob, if people are interested in a remodel,
maybe a basement, you know, nice family room down there
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or something, or new construction or plaster and drywall repair,
how do they get ahold of Cincinni Drywall.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
You just give us a call at five one three
three two one seven three two two, or you can
email us. Our are very simple. It's Cincinnati Drywall at
gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Uh, okay, yeah, if.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
You want, just send us an email. If you have
anything from us small, you know, a small repair that
you need done, you can feel free to send us
pictures at first and it okay, we feel the need
that we need to come out and take a look
at it. We're happy to do so, and we'll give
you a call back and schedule employment with us.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
All right. I'm anti popcorn ceiling, so if you want
that covered up, you give him a call. How's that?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
We so?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Are you? Good for you? Good for you? Hey, Jacob,
thank you, thanks for your time today. It's been a pleasure.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I appreciate Gary.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
All right, take care. It's Jacob Gundler. He is the
vice president of Cincinnati Drywall Against five one three three
two one seventy three twenty two or email Cincinnati Drywall, Inc.
Yes at gmail dot com. All right, what do you
think about that? That's pretty cool? In fact, I'll be
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real honest with you. Cool.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, I was very excited to be able to recommend
Cincinnati Drywall. And the reason is, first of all, having
a fourth generation company is you kind of learn at
the knees of the master, if you will, and that
whole that whole trade has been really decimated and shrunk
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so much. There's so many people that just don't know
how to make proper plaster repairs. And with remodeling, people
buying older homes, and you've got plaster obviously, you know,
you got to have that knowledge or at least have
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somebody that has some superior talent that can really take
care of your needs. And I believe they do just
that again at Cincinnati Drywall. All right, Danny boy, another
another day in the bank, if you will, always fun. Yeah,
thank you for all your heal good Lord willing, Denny
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and I'll both be back tomorrow for more at Home
with Gary Sullivan
Well, the best time of the day. I get to say,
good afternoon. Welcome Now our number four and you're at
home with Gary Sullivan, where we take your calls regarding
your home projects. Seven nine fifty five hundred. That is
the number, and certainly you can step in and join
us for uh, well, for about a year or so,
I've been talking about a company called Cincinnati Drywall, and
(00:23):
uh we're going to have a Philip mod On, he's
obviously with Cincinna Drywall, learn a little bit about the
company and what they do, and talk about some of
their building businesses residential construction, and also talk a little repairs.
And we'll be doing that at the twelve thirty mark.
In the meantime, you and I again, it's five one three,
(00:45):
seven nine fifty five hundred and Barry welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hello, Gary.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yes, take taking advantage of this. Everybody's complaining about the
warm weather and all the rain. I picked three gallons
of green beans this morning, so I'm breaking beans.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
There you go, so some well, everything's growing this year.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Weeds especially, Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna order some of the
leaf guard brushes.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
The gutter brush, but I'm about my gutters. What is
the measurement of the gutter, is it at the top
or the top like pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Different the inside of the top. So your most standard
gutter is probably five inch, and that's the inside diameter
of the top of the gutter. And you know, I
haven't done this, but you know, even if you got
the wrong size by a size, I bet they'd still
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slide in. Not two sizes up, but a five inch
gutter brush is the normal sized gutter, and literally you
just slide them right.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
In, right, Okay. I'm measured the top that was six inches,
and then I order measured the bottom, which is the smallest.
It was four inches. Is where I need to go.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, if you're on the inside diameter of that gutter,
you know they got another thing too. Well. It doesn't
do the diameters. On their website at gutterbrush dot com,
you can put in your address and they can give
you exactly how many feet of guttering you have, and
they may be even able to tell you the size
of the gutters. Okay, but it's usually usually the measurement
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is from the inside diameter of the top of the.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Gutter, okay, which okay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So it doesn't have to fit all the way down
because you know.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm getting from what you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, it probably is a five inch cutter. That's so common.
I'm seeing more and more people put in six inch
cutters with the amount of rain we've been having.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Right, yeah, Okay, one other question, if you had time.
I've got a basement. It's got uh it's an older home.
It's got the what is the five inch howel uh
on the floor. I'm sure there's asbestos under that or
(03:35):
any Yeah, because of the date of the home. If
I clean that very very well, can I use a
dice coating over top of that?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I'll bet you can. The one thing I would be
careful of, I know that asbestos tar and the adhesive.
Are all those tiles solidly to the floor, because those
are really when it dries out, and those type of tiles,
they're nine inch squares, they do come loose. You you
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don't have any problem. It's all tightly bonded.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yes, yes, no problem.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And there's no waxing that's taking place or anything. They're
just kind of old basement tiles, right. Yeah. You know,
preparation is always the key, so they got to be
clean and dry. I don't know how clean they are.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, how would you recommend cleaning.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That just soaping water? I wouldn't go any heavier than.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That, okay, okay, yeah, and then you think that dice
coding would I think.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It would yeah, yeah, especially those older tiles. I mean
you can always you know, send them an email. But
I I think the you know, spread stone or the
roller rock will go over that asbestos tile goes over concrete.
You know. Again, I think just good clean surface. I
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think you'll be fine if you want to double check
with them, or it may have on their directions which
are on their website too, but I'm most certain you can, okay,
you know because yeah, mainly because of the type of tyle.
If it was a shinyl vinyl, i'd tell you no.
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But those things were just they're as hard as a rock.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah. No, this home was probably built in the late fifties.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Sure, yeah, oh yeah, there's definitely that. Yeah, that adhesive
has got asbestos in it, That tyle's got asbestos in it.
The fact, it'd probably be an advantage putting the roller
rock on because you basically encapsulate that then.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right yeah, okay, well, thank you very much, and.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
All right, very good, thank you. Yeah, but yeah, just
reading the directions, I'll tell you there's a difference, a big,
big difference between the type of tile he's having in
some of the maybe the vinyl flooring that was a
Sheik Good maybe twenty twenty five years ago. Probably wouldn't
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paint that, though. I will tell you some of the
regular tile. I'm talking regular tie, I should say flooring tie.
The twelve by twelve's made in the eighties. You can
paint that. You may paint it every five years, but
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you can paint that. So I would be uh, not
hesitant a painting that tile. I would just make sure
that at that time is in fact strongly bonded to
the slab itself. There we go, Now, we got it
all right, Let's go to Dan.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Dan Welcome, Hey, good afternoon, Gary.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
I've got composite siding on my house and they're on
the lip that's got an inch lip. It's kind of
deteriorating in a few places, and it looks like the
woodpeckers have been doing a job on it. I heard
you talk about liquid wood and a woody POxy.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
How do I apply that?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, let's make sure it's going to work on this sighting. Okay,
do you know the manufacturer of that sighting?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I'm sorry, do.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know the manufacturer of that sighting? No, but I.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Can't get it anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
They stop making it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah. Is it a masonite sighting.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yes, it's like a masonize ok.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
All right, so that masonite signing. Yeah, there was quite
a few class action lawsuits with that, and it also
and maybe it did this also. It kind of swells
at the end of the sighting and then it gets
kind of a bubble on it, and then it kind
of gets chipped away, and birds could be doing that too,
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So I don't. I don't know. I had that on
my very was the first something that was my second home.
I had that masonite sighting on there, and there wasn't
a real good way to repair that. Let's put it
that way. I don't because masonite's sighting is almost like
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paper that's compressed together and it swells and then you know,
I don't, I don't. I don't know if that I
would use that or I would It's gonna be hard
to chisel it away smooth. I can tell you that
because I had tried that years ago. But if you did.
(09:14):
Maybe even something like a bondo for like cars, Yeah,
something that may. I don't think that would. A pox
would really it might, but I don't think it really
attached as well. I would look at maybe in a
uh an exterior spackling or a bondo product like a
(09:38):
fiberglass okay, and maybe experiment with that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Another question, what could I replace that with that siding?
Is there anything out there would or another concrete type U?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I mean you can, you can replace it. I mean,
like I said, it was early in my second home.
So I just put vinyl over it and hit it.
So we put a you know, we put a kind
of a eighth inch thick insulating board or rap on
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the outside. And then when vinyl sighting over it and
you know that looked fine, you could, uh you could
tear it off or you could probably I don't know
about the cement board siding, but you could take a
look at you know, certainly going to be more expensive.
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LP makes one siding that looks very much like that
particular siding.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's been out for a number of years, no problems
with it, comes with a twenty five year warranty. It's thicker.
It you could get a vertical siding or horizontal sighting.
Take a look at that and see if you could
just go right over the surface with that.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And who makes that?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
What's the name.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
LP, Louisiana Pacific LP Sighting.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
LP Siding.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Okay, all right, I'll check that out.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's on an area.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
It's on I've got a wood stove pipe. Wood stove
pipe that goes up and I've got it and closed,
so it's like sixteen inches on the sides and four
on the face.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And that face.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Is where the woodpeckers and get some get some water
on right, So right, Uh, that's that's what I'm trying
to replace or repair.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
All right, all right, give that try. You might even
look at some if it's that, you might even get
some like a cement board that looks like a stucco
or something like that. Make it a little different and
do that box like that and go over it. Okay,
and then just you know, some corner beating on both.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Uh huh, okay, all right, I appreciate the info.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
All right, Dan, good luck to you. Take care, bye bye,
take a little break. When come back. We got mel
and then we're gonna get to our friends and talk
a little construction, not destruction. Well, sometimes you gotta do
the destruction to do the construction. All right, we'll continue.
You're at Home with Gary Salvan right here on fifty
five K or see the talk station. All right, back
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here we go, twelve twenty two on your Saturday at
Home with Gary Salvin. A quick reminder, we are back
at it at nine am on Sunday. We'll take the
excursion nine to noon. In the meantime, if you missed
an hour today's show, there's a few podcasts you can
catch up on because each hour of the show Danny
does set a podcast up on the iHeart app. It's
(12:57):
at Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, let's go to
mel Mel.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
All welcome, good afternoon. Last Saturday, you had somebody call in.
They want to know how to get rid of the
lazarus lizards. Yep, well I have a all natural solution.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
They need to get either a hunting dog or a
hunting kitty cat. I would suggest the kitty cat over
the dog because you would have far less digging, or
at least smaller patches of digging.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Sounds good, And as we were even talking last week,
you know it's amazing. I say it all the time,
and doing the show for thirty nine years, never had
that call before. I didn't know what the lazars lizard
was easy for me to say. But you know, one
of the things that if they are annoying, maybe they are,
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maybe they aren't, but they love to get into those
little crevices. And as I think, I looked up some
information during one of the breaks and it was really
kind of goes back to whenever we talk about you know,
we just had the quick conversation about birds on the
sighting and we get woodpeckers and the lizards and snakes
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around wood piles, and it's all about really changing their environment.
You know, taking away what they want. Doesn't mean we
got to hurt them, It doesn't mean we gotta do anything,
but you know, clean up the area they love where
they can hide, right, so you know, sticks and leaves
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and bushes trimmed up and things like that, those are
that's going to be very helpful just changing that that
environment up. And then one of the things like if
it's a stone wall and that's usually where they are
warming themselves or running across the tops and everything else,
and if there's crevices in there. Maybe there was some
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mortar stone missing mortar. That's where they're you know, going
in getting that patched. I remember one article I was
reading and said, cover the stone. Well, I don't think
you want to do that, but could That would certainly
change the environment. They wouldn't have much use for that
area anymore. But yeah, changing that environment certainly a way
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to do that. Thanks much for the call, and boy,
and that so much means in every type of pest.
I was talking about snakes, and I'm always preaching about
as a lot of people are right now. If you
buy firewood, maybe you you know, got a nice stove
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and it won't be long I guess, and we'll be
using the stoves again. But you got to have the
firewood season. And so many people I see it all
the time. They'll stack that stuff right up against the house,
which is not the place to put it. And then
when the leaves fall in the autumn and it gets
behind the wood, you have a perfect environment for critters
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and snakes and stuff like that. And you're protecting the woods,
so you're not really even giving the wood the opportunity
to dry out. Or maybe you have a bunch of
bushes in your front yard or in your backyard, and
behind that, we've got leaves from last fall. We never
rake them up last fall, we didn't rake them up
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in the springtime, and they're still there. That's the environment
critters like to live in, right, I mean, they're protecting.
They're looking to be protected too. And until you change
that and eliminate the hiding places, you're going to have them.
So changing that environment and the key. Now back to
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the firewood. If you want to if you're buying the
wood and you want it, you know you want it
seasoned or dried out, put it out where you know,
out in the middle or on the property line where
the wind can blow through it, and don't cover it
up all the way down to the ground, because there's
ground moisture and that's going to radiate up through the
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wood and you got a plastic covering on it, and
you're gonna it's not gonna be seasoned quite as rapidly
as if you just have maybe the top row covered
or not covered at all, and just let the sun
beat down on that and help season that wood. I've
mentioned the last couple of weeks. If you are buying
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wood and if you take a piece of that wood
and you drop it on and you drop one of
those logs and split logs on the concrete and it
sounds like a bowling ball thud, it's not seasoned. If
you drop it and it sounds like a baseball bat
and goes ping, yeah, it's season Or look at the
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end of that log and just see if it's cracked
or if the grain is raised a little bit, that's
a sign that it's seasoned. Also, so a couple of
things to be mindful of when you're getting replacement or
not replacement, but when you're getting some firewood. All right,
So coming up, Philip Mott will be joining us. He
is with Cincinnati Drywall. We're going to talk about basement
(18:30):
remodeling or adding space to your home and maybe a
little drywall repairs and hanging drywall and some tips. A
good guy, and we'll be chatting with him after the
next break, so we'll continue. You're at home with Gary
Sullivan right here on fifty five K see detalk station.
All right, back at it we go, twelve thirty four
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it is and you're at home with Gary Sullivan. I
know one thing that has been a trend probably for
the last four to five years, especially when we all
had to work at home trying to find more room
in our houses or in homes basements being remodeled. Maybe
not the fancy theaters or maybe the fancy theaters, maybe
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just an office, maybe a little gym. But remodeling is
important now because well you all read the news and
hear about houses and construction. It doesn't have what I want.
I'd like where I live, et cetera, et cetera. So anyway,
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joining us now is Jacob Gundler and he is the
vice president of Cincinnati Drywall. And Jacob, welcome to that
home with Gary Salvin. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
How you doing Gary? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You're quite welcome. So tell us a little bit about
Cincinnati Drywall.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Well, Cincinnati Drywall has been a family owned business for
the well I'm for generation in the last fifty years,
so since nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, people are always asking me, Jacob, who can you
recommend to do so and so, and I always say,
look for longevity, and this isn't that the truth? Fourth generation? Congratulations?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Yeah, thank you very much. I'm a technically step family,
but still fourth generation.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You still count Jacob. So you do remodel and new construction,
you do both. Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
We're about we're about ninety residential. We'll do a little
bit of commercial, but yeah, we'll we work mostly in
people's homes.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So very good. You specialize in any particular project or
I guess once you're in construction, you're in construction. You
can get it done.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Yeah, we pretty much do anything and everything when when
it comes to, uh, basically building a wall or as so, yeah,
well we like I mean, we'll do anything from a
small patch on the wall to you know, a custom
home build.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
So yeah, we basically do anything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, well, let's start with the uh, let's start with
the houses, the construction. Now we'll get to the remodeling,
and if we have time, we'll get some patches because
I know, boy, that used to be a trade. There
were so many people in it. I you know, plasters
and all that, and it just you know, there's well
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we try to do it, Jacob, but never looks the same. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah, so yeah, we we fixed plaster with drywall. We don't,
I mean, we'll do some like struct a light to
fill back plaster, and then we like to use a
substance called good wall, and it's like fiberglass sheathing. So
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we actually will fix whole plaster homes with with glidwall.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Is that glidwell kind of like a wall liner? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
It's it's a fiberglass sheathing. So it it comes in
like three foot by four hundred foot rolls. It's really
easy to cut. However, it is not fun to handle.
It's very It's like, you know, it's like handling insulation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(22:37):
but yeah, we'll put it. We basically will roll on
like an all purpose glue based mud, and then we'll
squeegee that fiberglass sheathing over top of the wall and
it will solve further plaster cracking. And it has a
really good tenhile strength once it's put on.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, you know, that's I don't know, we're going to
talk about trends too, I hope. But there's a lot
of things on our walls and ceilings we love to hide,
and that's cracks, patched cracks. And I don't know, can
you use different products over like old popcorn or not
old popcorn ceilings, but popcorn ceilings. I think a lot
of people you know, don't have a great love for those.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Yeah, what we do there actually the best thing we
the best solution we have come up with over the years,
and we've been doing it for clearly a long time,
is rather than smoothing them, we like to actually just
hang new drywall.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Over top of them.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean you're you know, you double layer drywall
for firewalls.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And stuff like that. You know, you might as well
have ceiling anyway, and you know you're looking at a
half inch You'll never you'll never notice that difference in
ceiling height.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Sure, and it.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Just turns its just turns out to be a better
product in our opinion.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
That's mostly our solutions. Unless the if the textures really like,
we'll go ahead and smooth them. We have no problem
doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But we like the wa Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, well that's where you're a fourth generation company, is
you want to look great?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, definitely we are in that quality, high quality
drywall product.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That's sure.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Since at Drywall, do you do just a Cincinnati area,
do northern Kentucky, Indiana? The whole works?
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Yeah, we're basically in our radius around our shop, which
is it's on Wilmer Avenue right across from London Area Airport.
So yeah, we'll do about an hour race around there anywhere,
and we go a little bit Indian into Indiana and
you know far as South Dayton and excellent, excellent.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So let's talk a little bit about new construction, not
necessarily how you build. I already know how you build,
or you wouldn't be around, right, What kind of what
kind of trends and what kind of things are important
in new construction? Right now? What's what's hot? What's the trend?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Well, I think a new trend that we've been kind
of getting into is a lot of that modern. It's
just a modern look like to a lot of people
are getting into the light, like you know, light pockets,
and I would say, like like the false like lighting,
(25:43):
they'll do, right, they'll do like the you know, finish
around lighting. And as far as drywall goes anyway, what there,
it's like a I don't even know how to describe it.
It's definitely, I mean, it's just a modern look that
people like. And you'll, I mean, we get into some
(26:04):
different beads that will have to put on for that
that make it look I guess I don't even really
know how to describe it, but.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
So maybe more sleek, more square, you know, almost almost
like a glass panel garage doors, I know, the Avalon's
out there now and a lot of black and white.
Are those all trends?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, how about the I want I used to always
say ninety percent of your your entertainment always takes place
in the kitchen, So you want to have a big kitchen. Yeah,
I see people putting in you know, two dishwashers and stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Now, yeah, the kitchen islands are going crazy. And then yeah,
big kitchens and vaulted ceilings open. That's you know, that's
a big trend too, is.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
People are opening up those.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Because we do a lot of remodels, people are opening
up their their walls and stuff. It's much more open.
So they're putting in L B l's and you know
the ceilings and passing partition walls that they took out,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, where's the where's the barn door sitting? These days?
That's still hotter or fading away?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
That I think that's kind of fading away. I agree, Yeah,
I think a big thing now is pocket doors. Yeah,
that's that's everybody likes those. They just they don't take
up any space.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, you don't have to display the.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Right exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So I guess really with the new construction part of Cincinnati,
drywall and the uh residential remodels, they kind of blend
hand in hand. We all kind of want the same things.
I know, if you live in an older home and
it just has to be you know, twenty five thirty
years old, and you love the neighborhood and you love
the people, and you you know, the pricing of homes
(28:16):
anyway scares a lot of people off, and you like, really,
all we need, we need to open this house up
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
And right that's where the remodelers like to get into.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Uh those plaster houses.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
From the nineteen seventies and below. The drywall actually came
into effect around the seventies, So you get that transition
period and sometimes you'll get the plaster board houses, you'll
get the plaster laugh houses before the board. Like, I mean,
(28:49):
there's just there's those different transitions for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It's it's it is amazing how business practice or building
practices change consumer once Angine, you get those homes in
the twenties and thirties, there's no closets because you know,
you had a Sunday outfit, you had a weekday outfit,
and you had your work outfits or your clothing. Yeah,
you don't need much closet space.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
And yeah, and I had I think the master bedroom
had a one foot by four foot closet and yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen people now turn small rooms into closets.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
So So when you meet with people, Jacob, do you
start with do most of your clients know what they
want or they're really just kind of you know, got
some pictures, got some ideas, And I guess that personality
means a lot, right, you're kind of a consultant in
the beginning.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Were definitely.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
We we like to help our customers out as best
as we can. If we don't have to get it,
you know, general contractor involved, well, we'll definitely try to
go that route to keep it cheaper on them. But yeah,
so basically I get a little bit of both. Usually
people know what they want and want what they want done,
(30:14):
but every once in a while I will get that
like what should I do first?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You know?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And actually with the popcorn ceilings, you were talking about
a lot of people don't like them, right, and they'll
want to change lighting in the ceilings.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
So what why we recommend too is overlaying the ceiling
with near drywall. Is that electrician can go in and
do whatever the heck he wants to the ceiling as
far as cutting holes and you know, right going on
the ceiling, changeing lighting, and then we'll come in after
(30:52):
he's done wiring up everything and you know, overlay the ceilings.
That's that's a big part of that process. Sure, telling
people what they should do and what their next steps
would be. And we're pretty good at telling people that.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think, yeah, I think a lot of times as
homeowners or as people that want to be homers, we
have a lot of ideas, but we're scared. We're scared,
we don't know what's this going to cost. How do
we put this whole thing together? If you don't mind,
Jacob will take a little break. We'll come back and
talk about you know, the things that advice you can
(31:31):
give that person, what should they be working on even
before they call you. So sit tight, we'll take a break.
You're at home with Gary Sullivan on fifty five K
see Detalk station. All right, Becket, do we go Jacob Gumbler,
he is the vice president Cincinnati Drywall, and we're talking
about construction and new construction and patch and plaster drywall.
(31:56):
We got everything going on, fourth generation business right here
in the greater Cincinnati area. And Jacob, when you have
somebody call, maybe it's a I want to finish a
basement and I want I want this, this, this what
what advice? Or I want to build a new home.
Kind of give me some advice. What would you like
(32:18):
to see a customer come prepared for? Does it start
with a budget? I guess or.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
A, well, it's.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
It doesn't. Normally it doesn't really start with a budget.
I usually, I mean, if I'm going in, I usually
recommend the cheapest option for the customer. But I like
to do things right as well, So if it does
it might need to cost a little more extra, you know,
(32:53):
money to do it right, then I usually try I'll,
you know, convince the customer or to you know, go
that route, just because you know you'll have I mean,
if I'm going in and bending some water damage on
a ceiling or something like that where they're kitching think
leaked into the basement, ceiling, and you know it maybe
(33:19):
maybe it's just a small spot in the bathroom and
you know, sometimes you can just cut that out and
repair it, or sometimes it just needs more extensive repair
and you don't want. I don't like to go the
cheaper route, right just you know, cheaping.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Cheaping of a java. But we like like high quality.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So yeah, so I usually go the the cheapest route
possible until you know it needs to be different.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, I think you hit on a big thing and
then maybe you can elaborate on this. But I feel
like one of the most important things, especially remodeling, uh
situation that homeowner is gonna live with you for a while,
and you're gonna live with that homeowner for a while,
and I think probably the most important thing is you
get along and there's good communication.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yes, absolutely, yeah that is That's so basically I guess
our process. You could say, I go in, I tell
the customer, you know, this is what we should do.
This is a process, and then I actually I so
we get to basically the scheduling will say hey, this
(34:34):
is this is your schedule date. We keep that schedule
and we like to be there every day until we
we you know, knock out their project as we get.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It and as soon as we can. No, we like to.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Be there every day, every day, you know, around eight
thirty until it is finished. Unless you know, we run
into you know, everybody runs into difficulties. Sometimes sometimes you
need a dry day so you'll you know, the mud
just didn't drive properly, so you got to wait.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Another day to let it drive.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Sure, sure, Yeah, we like to.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Take care of the customer as quickly and as efficiently
as possible.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well, that is the name of the game, because you know,
whether the homeowner realized the or not, I mean, your
partners and for a while, depending on how extensive that
project is. And you got the skills of also the
whole drywall and plaster thing. And I'm sure in a
(35:41):
remodeling that's invaluable to have just to make those transitions.
And a lot of times too, I mean, you see
the the the trend to people moving in older homes
and stuff and maybe thinking they're going to do all
that work themselves, or maybe they know they're not going
to do all the work. But there's there's a lot
(36:03):
to learn, in a lot to do. If explain that
to people, is is is a talent, I mean.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Communications and even just how you know, just how messy
the the actual project can be also a huge factor,
especially in the remodeling processes and being in people's homes.
It's quite a quite a clean up to have to do.
And even you know, even after we're gone, if you
(36:34):
don't paint it right away, you know, dust will just
kind of fall from the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's just the nature job.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Yeah, and like to is, so once we get them scheduled,
we actually hand them off to We have a supervisor
scheduling supervisor is Kenny and he he does a great
job for us. And the customer is always in contact
with us too, but Kenny one running the job and
(37:02):
making sure everybody's where they need to be. And sure
that's kind of our process, but they can always get
in bat with us at the office.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, as I say, in remodeling, there's always destruction before construction.
So let's make sure we got our expectations in line. Yes, absolutely,
all right, So Jacob, if people are interested in a remodel,
maybe a basement, you know, nice family room down there
(37:34):
or something, or new construction or plaster and drywall repair,
how do they get ahold of Cincinni Drywall.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
You just give us a call at five one three
three two one seven three two two, or you can
email us. Our are very simple. It's Cincinnati Drywall at
gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Uh, okay, yeah, if.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
You want, just send us an email. If you have
anything from us small, you know, a small repair that
you need done, you can feel free to send us
pictures at first and it okay, we feel the need
that we need to come out and take a look
at it. We're happy to do so, and we'll give
you a call back and schedule employment with us.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
All right. I'm anti popcorn ceiling, so if you want
that covered up, you give him a call. How's that?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
We so?
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Are you? Good for you? Good for you? Hey, Jacob,
thank you, thanks for your time today. It's been a pleasure.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I appreciate Gary.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
All right, take care. It's Jacob Gundler. He is the
vice president of Cincinnati Drywall Against five one three three
two one seventy three twenty two or email Cincinnati Drywall, Inc.
Yes at gmail dot com. All right, what do you
think about that? That's pretty cool? In fact, I'll be
(38:54):
real honest with you. Cool.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, I was very excited to be able to recommend
Cincinnati Drywall. And the reason is, first of all, having
a fourth generation company is you kind of learn at
the knees of the master, if you will, and that
whole that whole trade has been really decimated and shrunk
(39:20):
so much. There's so many people that just don't know
how to make proper plaster repairs. And with remodeling, people
buying older homes, and you've got plaster obviously, you know,
you got to have that knowledge or at least have
(39:41):
somebody that has some superior talent that can really take
care of your needs. And I believe they do just
that again at Cincinnati Drywall. All right, Danny boy, another
another day in the bank, if you will, always fun. Yeah,
thank you for all your heal good Lord willing, Denny
(40:01):
and I'll both be back tomorrow for more at Home
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