Gary Sullivan 8/3/2025 Hour 1

Gary takes your calls along with his expert advice.

Episode Transcript

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it comes to picking your projects this year, outside and
happy to talk to you about your outdoor projects or
indoor projects. As I look out where I am, it's
a beautiful day, so a great day to get some
of those projects done. One of the things I talk
about often is the entryway to our home and it

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doesn't really matter how old your home is, how big
your home is. An entryway, for the most part, is
the first thing people see. See it from the streets,
see it from the sidewalk, see it when they visit.
And it's also an area, like all areas of a home,
that eventually gets dated, and it eventually gets tired and

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eventually needs your attention. So it'd beig question today is
how's yours look? Does it need a little bit of attention? Well,
we can talk about that again. Our phone number is
eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five. The
first thing I'd like to look at. And many areas

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or many entry doors have a couple steps up and
a stoop, or one step up and a stoop. And
what kind of shape is the concrete in? Is it stayed?
Has it been patched multiple times where it's just a
slab of concrete a lot of patches on it? Is
it dirty? Is it mil dewy? Because we can really

(02:50):
clean that up. There's so many wonderful coatings now on
concrete that lasts for a long time that can hide
the patch marks. Actually, if you've got some concrete, you know,
fifteen sixty years old Where we've had cracks, we've put
crack fillers in them, and in a lot of cases

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that just draws attention to the crack itself. So let's
dress that up a little bit and let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
So if you have cracks that are.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Maybe the width of a pencil lead, you can seal
those cracks up, and I encourage you to do so
with a crack sealer comes in a core jug, it's latex,
it's self leveling. You're literally just pouring it in letting
it weep into the crack. Okay, so we'll take care
of that that way. As far as divots or spawling,

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the surfaces, pot marked, all kinds of neat products, some
pre mix now I talk about one called rock patch,
which is a premixed patcher. Or you can go old
school and do the vinyl concrete patcher, just a powder
mixed with water and just fill those divot marks. And

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of course, now we've got a stoop that well, it
looks patched, right, I mean you've got an older colored
concrete and now you got the patches. In a lot
of cases they're a little bit lighter than the old
concrete and it looks dated. It looks kind of patched up.
So I see people and this has been going on

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for a while, and I've been just like, don't do this.
Is get some indoor outdoor carpeting, some carpet tape or glue,
and just put it.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
On the stewp. Nah, you don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And I'll tell you when that when it's gonna get dirty,
it's gonna curl up, it's gonna get dated. And trying
to get that up, that carpet up, that outdoor carpet
boy off a concrete and if you glue it down,
it's a nightmare. It's very difficult. But there's so many
great coatings.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I talk about.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
One called spread rock spreadstone, and it is a coating.
You can get about fifteen years of it. It's slip resistant,
easy to apply two coats with a roller. And you
know it's not just colored dimensional, it's got speckles in it,
very attractive. That's one way of doing it. You could

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stain it. Now, the stain probably is not going to
cover all those patch marks. It'll make it more uniform
in color. But it's an option.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So let's address.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
That stoop area. Let's get that not quite as dated.
And then take a look at the other parts around
that area. And that is if you have a light fixture,
or you have two coach lights out front, chances are,
chances are it's dated. It's a very inexpensive light. And

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there's some really cool exterior lights now, especially with the
coming of the LED bulb, you can get some very nice,
very attractive, very easily replaced new lighting around your door.
If you have a door with old locks on it,

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a lot of time that plating is just worn off.
And what was a pewter nice pewter finished door knob
or handle or even a brass that plating is worn off.
And I'm not going to say it looks like rusted steel,
but it looks pretty dated also. And then of course

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the last thing is the door itself. You know what
kind of shape is the door itself. We had a
couple calls yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
We do.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Have this call a lot, and the person had a
a fiberglass stained door, and there's a way to keep
that protected all the time, and it requires maintenance, and

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that's the hardest thing to ever get anybody really fired
up about doing. But the fiberglass door has a stain
on the fiberglass, which is pretty much laying on the
surface of the fiberglass. It doesn't penetrate into the fibers
like oil stain would penetrate into the fibers of wood.

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So it's kind of a coating per se, even though
it is a stain, and it's that coating is cosmetic.
And that sun, so especially if you're facing the south
or the west, is very punishing to that stain, so

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it fades easily. A protecting should be put over that stain.
And of course, what's the number one everybody thinks of
all the time, right, polyurethane. Polyurethane is a king man.
It takes care of everything. Nope, Nope, it doesn't. Polyurethane
doesn't have really good or if any UV blocking power.

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It says interior, next tier. But after a couple of
years it ambers gets a little tiny pinholes in and
it starts breaking down. Depending on the quality of the polyurethane,
you might get five years out of it. But really
what you need as a protecting is a spar your

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thane or a marine eurethane which has wonderful UV protected
And when I said it needs maintenance about every two years,
wash that door down. Take a six hundred and seven
hundred grids sanding sponge, kind of go over the surface
of the door and put another coat of a marine

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or spar your thing on there. That'll fill those little
holes and you'll never have to strip it down.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
The call I had yesterday was like, it's so faded.
I haven't really done anything for five years. I want
to paint it. Okay, I paint in mind. Maybe that's
something you want to do. Maybe it's something you don't.
But if you want to protect it, first thing you
gotta do is you gotta find out if I can
just put another coat on there. Remember it's kind of

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faded and kind of bleached out. And the way to
tell is to wet that door down. If you wet
that door down and it looks wow, yeah, that looks new.
That's exactly what I wanted to look like.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Again.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Six hundred grid seven hundred grid sanding sponge bingo. Put
a coat on there. It will rejuvenate that finish again.
Spar or marine your thing, not polly your thing for
next to your door. All right, we'll take your calls
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your calls regarding your home projects. It's eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five and chuck Welcome, Hi Gary,
How are you doing fine?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Gary. I've heard you talk about this before, but I'm
ready to tackle it myself in a garage spalling. So
I was just wondering if you can kind of give
me the steps some product recommendations.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, yeah, that you know the uh.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I guess that project is changing a lot with newer
generation products, but you could use either one. So the
first thing, most of the spawling is what less than
a half inch deep?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Right, correct?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes? Okay, all right, So we just want to make
sure that the area that we're going to patch, regardless
of product we're going to use, is clean and dust free.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
And.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
The patching of it in the spald area is relatively easy.
You get two choices. You have a cementatious product that's
been around for years and it's called vinyl concrete patcher.
It's made by Quicker. The vinyl concrete patcher is a powder.
It has a bonding agent already mixed into it, and

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it has the ability to be feather edged down to
a thirty second of an inch. So you'll mix this
up with water and let it's sit for about two
or three minutes, and then with a wide taping knife
for a trial, you'll just skim coat that spald area
and literally, you know, it just dries.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're done.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I mean, nothing more complicated than that. It's it's got
a lifespan i'd say five to seven years, and then
you probably have to do it again.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Then there's the newer generation within the I'm sorry, we're.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Gonna say Rocks the rock Patch by Dosh Cody.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, that would probably be the newer generation, and they're
not the only one out there. It's a non cementatious products.
It's a poly product and a crillic poly product. It's
pre mixed. It comes in a gallon can, probably ten
times more expensive than the vinyl concrete patcher, obviously grade

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adherent adhering qualities to the existing concrete, and quite honestly,
you open the lid, you scoop it out, and you
patch it and it has a lifespan of probably ten
to fifteen years. So that's far as far as.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
As far as the prep, it's just cleaning it out
like with like a pressure washer. No other chemicals needed, no, no,
none at.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
All because once that surface has spawled in other words,
that nice smooth coating. You know, it's got a rough texture.
It's a it's a you know, as well as it's
dust free. It's got a good bondable texture. So it
you know, whether you use the polyproduct or whether you
use the sementatious product, the biting strength or the gripping

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power is certainly there. It's probably one of the easiest
and best things to patch on concrete. I mean it's
it's easier in better to patch than even a crack.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Okay, now, Gary, after I've heard you talk, after you're
done patching it, then it's the look and if you
want to, you know, put something over top of it.
And I've heard of you talk about the spread rock.
What would you go with if this was your home.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, there's so many choices. I guess I would certainly
look at the spread rock. They got a spread rock,
and they also have a razo which is a little
more decorative. If that's you know, you know what you're
looking for. I would use that over in apoxy. It's
a thicker coating than a an epoxy coating, including really

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even a commercial epoxy. So if I were going to
use a coating on a garage floor a do it
yourself coding, I think the spread Rock, roller Rock or
Terrazo would be one of the ones I would choose.
Mainly your choosing cosmetics to chuck. But and that would

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you know, if I was gonna do it myself, that
would certainly be the top of my list. But there
are other other products out there. You know, you could
use a stain if you wanted to use an acid
stain where it's not it's more of a marbled look.
Some people love that, some people don't love that. You
can put a seiler on it make it shiny. Of

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even seeing retail stores where they use a stain on
the floors, I don't think i'd buy a seventy dollars
a POxy kit form my garage floor, Nor would I
use a you know, non mixed product that isn't a POxy.
There's some that are for garage floors, they're just paints.
I don't think I would use those I think they

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look good for about four years and that's about it.
But uh, I've heard you say that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, R.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
What do you think about like the royal the role
like vinyl flooring that you can roll out?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
You know, I don't have any experience I was with those,
But I was going to say another thing to look
at is a tiles, so it's a little bit different
than the vinyl rollouts. I don't have a lot of
experience on the vinyl rollouts. The tiles. My neighbor put
them in probably about ten or twelve years ago, and
they still look pretty good. I think it was called

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racetrack racetrack dot com. And they're snapped together. I think
they're like twelve or sixteen inch square tiles that clip
together diamond pattern, or you can get them where they're
kind of open like an egg crate. But those look
pretty good too. I would probably lean more to a coating,
but that's me and you know, our garages have kind

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of turned into the entry way to our house, so
dressing them up with some color I think could be
a good option for you. That vinyl may be a
little slippery, so be careful on that. Now I'll have
more when I come back talking about a sealer that
can even go over vinyl to not make it slippery.
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Back to where we go. Thanks for joining me.

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You're at home with Gary Sullivan and we're addressing issues
you have around your home in terms of maintenance and repair.
Certainly you take care of your investments and your house
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a question, please join us. It's eight hundred eighty two
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three eighty two fifty five. Easy to get on board.
Danny'll take your call and we'll chat. When I was
talking to the last caller, we were talking about a
garage floor and different coatings to put on it and
different things to do, and I hed talked about a
vinyl garage and I was talking about tile floors and garages,

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and I said something about being slippery. That's something I
think to kind of always weigh and think about even
if you have just a concrete garage floor and you
put a gloss shiny which is what should be on
a garage floor sealer on there. Because you know cars

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get wet and cold climates. You drag snow in and
moisture and it can get slippery. Be careful. So there's
been a product. It's been out for two or three years,
and before that I knew of one that you could
use where it is a slip resistance seiler.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And is succeed.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
This track Safe is so versatile on the different substrate
you can use it on. So you can certainly use
it on a garage floor, but you could use it
on a handicap ramp, maybe a pressure treated wood. You
could use it on linoleum, You could use it on

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ceramic tile, you can use it on wood.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
In fact, you could use it on a stage. Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And it is a slip resistant it's called track Safe.
It is also a Dice Codings product. And you know
when you're doing your garage floor and you in regardless
of what you use, whether you paint it, whether you
use the illinois or the roll vinyl on it, whether

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you use the acid stain on it, that that particular
area is going to be a slippery area anyway, and
if you have a concern of that or even a patio,
this track Safe will give you steps, it'll give you

(25:33):
more secure footing, and it is a wonderful seiler. It
is a wonderful slip resistance seiler. Again, that's track Safe,
And I wanted to bring that up because he had
brought up the the roll vinyl for garage floors, which
I have not used. I've seen pictures of it. I

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haven't been on a site where they were actually installing it,
so I don't know much about it. I know about
the tiles, and I think those are pretty nice too,
especially if you have, oh the entry access into a house.
A lot of times in newer homes you got the

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garage doors on the side of the house or right
in the front, and if it's on the side of
the house, and you're probably going to enter in through
the garage door all the time, not going to the
front door. Maybe even guess the same. So probably wanted
a little more attractive, less cluttered, And there's all kinds

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of things you can use, including the tile, including the
spreadstone products to look a little bit better. Than a
dirty crack spawling garage floor, all right. Eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five, just kind of looking
at different projects we might have around the home. And

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we talked about the entryway, and that is another place,
quite honestly, especially if it's a smooth, smooth trialed stoop,
not much traction and could be slippery, that's another place
for the track safe where you might be, you know,
just making your home a little bit more safe. One

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of the things that I was talking to somebody not
long ago. They were doing a little bit of painting
kids going off to school and kind of fixing up
the one bedroom that was kind of a disaster, and
you know, they got imperfections in the drywall in other words,
that need a little work. Certainly needed different color paint,

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and he was getting it in shape and he was
using the spackling patch and then he painted it and
he called me up and I went across the street
and it has all these shiny patches all over the wall,
like what what what did you do here? And he goes, well,

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the first thing I did, you know, is I cleaned
it and I patched all these little holes and divots
and nail heads and everything, and you know I painted in,
So what did you paint it with? Yeah, painted with
a self uh self priming paint, and you know when dry,
it's all shining. So it kind of brought something up

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that I really need to remind you when you're doing
some interior painting and you got to use a little
bit of spackling compound to patch things.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Is you want it?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
You want to lightly stand that patch, and you want
to prime it regardless of whether you're going to use
a self priming paint or not. I mean, it is
gonna it's called flashing. So that patch, if you just

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paint it, even with a self priming paint, it's gonna
have these shiny spots. And that's exactly what was going on.
And a lot of times people will make the mistake
of using this backling and then just using one coat
of paint and they'll tra and feather it in. You're
not gonna paint the whole wall. You're just gonna feather

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it in and you might as just put a big
old stop sign on the wall. It is just when
you start feathering it in, depending on let's say a
roller was using Now it brushes me and used and
you're feathering it in and you haven't primed the spot.
It's the double whammy. Okay, when you're rolling paint, all

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paint has a little bit of light reflection. The flatter
the paint, the less light refe but it has some
light reflection. Now think about this. When you roll paint
onto a wall, it's got a certain texture to it.

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Even though it's a good self leveling paint, it still
has a certain texture to it. Sometimes you can't see
it until you stand right on top of it. But
a brush versus a roller has a different texture.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Just think about it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Think about it when you're rolling paint on and then
versus brushing paint on it, it's got a different texture,
which means.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
There's different light reflections between a brush and a roller.
So know that you really should repaint that. Or if
you're doing patchwork, just paint the whole wall. Make sure
that that patch is primed. And probably the best thing
to use is a is a good stain blocking primer

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that would really help ensure an even sheene a better
color match. And again, paint out that whole wall. Otherwise
that problem will exist and it's disheartening. When you take
the time to you know, do that job, and then
it doesn't look very good. And if you want to

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tell you another thing is a lot of people. Everybody's
in a hurry, right, And if you're patching a wall,
you know you got your spackling compound. There's different kinds
out there now. The lightweight's fine, the heavy vinyl that's fine,
takes longer to dry. See what the drying time is
and adhere to it. And if you can't be patient,

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there's even a spackling compound that goes on pink.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
And it dries white.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And once it dries white, that's when you would lightly sand.
That's when you would use your stain blocking primer, and
that's when you would paint out the whole wall. All right,
talking home improvement, Happy to take your calls.

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having a great weekend. You're at home with Gary Salivan.
We're at least talking go back to getting some work
done around the home, a little maintenance and repair.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
If you'd like to join us, do so. We got
a spot for you. We're gonna talk to Frank. Frank,
how are you.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
I'm doing great, A little warm, but I'm doing great.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
That had a boy, that'd a boy.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
What you got, uh carry?

Speaker 7 (35:19):
I got a house with who'll say, twenty two hundred
square foot and the.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Roof is a twelve to twelve.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Pitch and the roof covers about four thousand square foot
because it covers garage and patio. And I'm curious about
the attic ventilation. To me, it seems ultra hot in
that attic.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Uh. There's there's three whorleybirds up there, what I call worthybirds, right,
and I don't think there's enough airflow. How do I
how do how do I determine whether it's getting ventilated from? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, there there is a formula, Frank. So you know
we got there's two components that are important, and that is,
if you're trying to exhaust air out of an attic,
you need intake air and you need outtake air. The

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warly birds kinda do a little bit of both, but
the ideal situation, and then I'll give you the formula
is you need the intake air at the lowest area
of the roof in a lot of cases, and I
don't know if you have safits that extend over the

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house and you got soffi venting. Okay, So that soffi
venting is the intake air and the warly birds or
for people listening, if you have a ridge vent, that
would be the outtake air. So what you create in
that situation is convection. So hot air rises, the hottest

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air is in your attic. It can't rise and leave
the attic until there's air being brought in to push
it out. So it kind of works like a chimney.
That would be convection. The hot air rising is going out.
It's being replaced by the air in your house and

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in an attic. The same way the hot air is
in the attic. The cooler air, which could be ninety
five degrees outside, is still cooler than that attic. So
it's replacing and pushing out the real hot air out
the wilderbirds out the ridge vent. Now the formulation for
that is for every three hundred square footprint, three hundred

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square feet, you use one square foot of uninterrupted ventilation.
Now that's hard to figure out because those soft events
have you know, louvers, they have screen but you want
to make sure they're not covered with insulation in the attic,
which happens sometimes. And the warlybirds again, you know, trying

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to figure out exactly what that but but you want
to keep it as balanced as you can, and if
you error on either side, you should have more intake
than outtake. Yeah, so that's that's how it works. I mean,
that's that's you know, what screws it up in a

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lot of cases if you had worlybirds on your home
soft events, but then you head let's say, gable vents
on the side of the house at the peak of
the roof, those warlybirds will just be pulling the air
in right through the gable vents and right outside.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's not allowing that hot air to escape. Okay, So
and there's a lot of home.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah, I do have a gable vent one.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's not real big, but it is right there near
the peak, right, so it's probably just pulling it right
out of that gable vent, and it's not really lifting
all that hot air out of the attic.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
So closing those off sometimes is a good option.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Okay. And you said there's a form. Look, I guess
I could probably look that up online.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, it's for every three hundred square foot of the
house footprint, not the square foot of the house, but
the house footprint, right, you should have one square foot
of uninterrupted ventilation split fifty to fifty.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
Well, that's quite a bit that would be in my case,
got four thousand square foot under roof, so we're talking
forty forty square foot uninterrupted. Yeah, that's quite a bit.
I know there's not that much, not with those wharleybirds. Yeah,
and the gable that.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I just read an article then to do I just
read an article where they said, like seventy seventy five
percent of the homes are improperly improperly you know, the
insulation's fine, but the ventilation's not. So you're not alone,
so it's a problem. Do you have any idea how

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hot that attic is? Oh?

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Lord, I know you don't store luggage up there. I
found that out the hard way.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Would it melt?

Speaker 6 (40:35):
And I actually put a I did put a barrier
up there. It's an I thank it's for the infrared.
I'm trying to remember the name of the product. It
goes across your your rafters and that helps radiant. It'sp
radiant heat. Yeah, yeah, so that you got an opening

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going to your Warley birds, right, that help. That helps
some with the radium heat on the objects that we
store up in.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
There, right.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
But well it's kind of like, yeah, that's kind of
like standing underneath a big oak tree in the middle
of summer.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
It helps jades. It's a radium barrier.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
That's good. But yeah, we got to get that. We
definitely got to get that ventilation going a little bit better.
But what I would do you said you had soft events,
I'd kind of measure those out and take a look,
you know, just just see try to get a calculation
about if you add them all together, how much square

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feet you have. Sometimes we had these continuous ones, but
again you're gonna have to look at them and say,
fifty percent of that is blocked with the screen or
the you know, sometimes they're vinyl and there's just lots
of holes in them. You know, try to figure out,
you know, give it a guesstimate, and then you can

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take a look at the upstairs and see what you got.
And then I would block that gable vent off so
it allows the convection to take place where it's really
pulling it in and to be honest, it might even
be a good idea to get a thermostat or no
a thermostat, a thermometer up there or a sensor up

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there where you can get a temperature reading in that attic,
just to see if you're making progress with it.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
Okay, I do have an infrared adapter that goes on
my goes on my phone. Okay, infrared camera. Maybe the
thermal imagy sure shed some light on it.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, does it have just colors or does it actually
have a degree.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
It does have a degree.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Okay, good, they work real good.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
I tried it after I had windows install I had
the double pain windows with the radiant barrier, and it
made a tremendous difference.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Sure on my old ones.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
So yeah, pretty much got everything sealed up with that attic.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Is Yeah, Well, I think everybody listening right now ought
to do exactly what you're doing and just kind of
get a reading of where you're at, because there's some
there's some you know, the cost energy is not going down,
It just keeps getting higher and higher, so you're doing
the right thing. It's all about insulation and ventilation. So

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ventilation is just as important.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
I appreciate your nice garry.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Thank you, all right, Frank, have a great weekend. Thank
you very much for the call. All right, and we're
going to talk a little bit about ventilation, whole house ventilation,
Eric exchanging. That's becoming really really important too, and we'll
do that in the next hour. I talk to Erica
Lacoy from Easy Breathe yesterday. I'd like to kind of
play that interview back again. We'll try and do that

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in the next hour because there's some good tips on
well keeping your home healthy, keep the humidity in control,
keeping temperature balanced. All that comes into a play in
a you know, a good stable home. All right, we'll
take a break. If you'd like to join us. It's
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