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a couple open lines too, if you want to jump
on board. Ken Welcome, how you doing, Terry doing fine?
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Hey, I'm down here in Hernando County. Listen to you
on wxjav F ninety nine. Down here. Yes, we have
a brand new four foot sense that we purchased the
you know, the eight foot sections or we put up
new posts because the original posts were like twenty seven
years old. So we've got this pine pine Sense and
(01:51):
we're trying to determine whether or not to make it,
paint it with a sprayer with white paint, or put
it you know whatever, you call it a covering. You know,
I'm talking about the.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't know what you yeah, like a like a
stain or something.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right, right, Well, that's what I'm trying to determine. It's like,
you know what, what would do? You determine what you
know more likely hold up longer and help the beets
to hold up longer.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Well, I think you just answered my question. I can
give you that information. So you're really looking for longevity, correct,
I mean something that's going to go up, it's going
to last for a long period of time, something that's
not going to require maintenance a lot. So let me
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just kind of go through all of them. I'll start
with because it's also a cosmetic decision, right, I mean,
you want to look like what you want it to look,
just like it is, you want to paint it whatever,
But a transparent or a clear uh stain or toner
all right. That's good for a high quality woods like
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cedar redwood, not so good for pine. I would say
in Florida, you'd be lucky if you got a year's
worth of service out of that, so we'll cross that
off the list. If you wanted a semi transparent, a
semi transparent stain is where you can see the wood green.
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It has some UV protection unlike detoner and if you're
in direct sunlight, maybe two to three years.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So you're basically telling me either way, either way, we
go be prepared to do annual spring maintenance or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's gonna get better, though, it's gonna get The.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Thing I'm looking at is the thing is that we
bought a tough shed from the same home depot years ago,
and it's a seven year warranty on it, and I
know it's time for me to get out there and
paint that shit with the original colors, the white and
the blue. And I'm sitting here going like, okay, I
still have the original cans, but I'm sure that paint's
not worth a two at this point, and it's more
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than two years old.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So let's talk about that paint, okay. So, because it
sounds like, really, if you're looking for the ultimate protection
on a pine fence, a pine shed or house trim
that is pine, you paint it. And there's also other
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things that people mistaken for paint pain will last year
fifteen years. Solid color stain which a lot of people
will use, or even a semi solid stain will get
you about seven years. So that sounds maybe what might
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be on there. So do you know what you used
on that shed?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And again, if we've purchase it from the Home Depot.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Tough shed, so it's probably so basically.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, it's Bailey whatever they provided the tough shed purchase
from Home Depot when they got I mean again, I
don't have the can in front of me, but I
can tell you that I'd be more than glad to
do this. I can call you back on another weekend
and give you the information. Well, let me, I want
to protect the property, right, you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right, So so here's what I would suggest. You know
you can certainly you know Home Depot their main paint
brand is Bear and they make a yeah b e
h R. And they make a wonderful solid color stain.
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They make a very good self priming paint that you
could use on that. And again it's it's about the
prep so it's not pressure treated, it's just pines. So
you would use an primer on that. It could be sprayed, brushed,
(06:08):
or rolled, and then you could come back and you
could use their exterior paint. Exterior paint, seriously, a good
exterior paint. Now they make a self priming exterior paint
which would work wonderfully. But do prime it. Since it's
new wood and you know, not painted before. Do primate
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and then use a self priming bear house paint and
you'd get you'd get ten to fifteen years out of that.
And there's other brands too if you wanted to go
into like the Sherwin Williams. They've got one called Emerald,
same thing using acrylic bonding primer followed by their self
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priming Emerald paint. It's mildew resistant, has great UV resistant,
it's breatheable. So peeling is I'm not gonna say out
of the question, but it's pretty much out of the question.
And again that yeah, ry.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Question, I have it. How long do we have before
we like, let it cure first before we hit it
with this paint. Well we could put it up about
three weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, And and again if it's not pressure treated correct,
I'd have to double check the double check because that's
a real big component. Okay, because there's different directions whether
it's pressure treated or not pressure tree. If it's just pine,
you can go right now. If it's pressure treated and
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you want to paint that, you really shouldn't paint it
for almost a year and it'll out right.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
But right, well, that's that's why I wanted to bounce it,
asked you, because see, we've we've just replaced. We have
originally put the other fence four foot fence up to
replace the twenty year old fence less than five years ago.
And this other fence we had bought them the same location,
the different you know, different style, right, and the missige
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goes like, yeah, we don't like this because it doesn't
work out. So we ended up just replacing this. You know,
I'm talking about the fence sections that also posts, because
the posts were just gone. So the front of the
house now has a vinyl white fence in front, and
(08:38):
the wife wants to consider just removing that and just
making the same consistent sense all the way across the
front and then go down the other side. The question
that I have for you, because you're the person that
can help point me, is how do you put a
electronic gate on a driveway, you know what I'm saying,
so that she can push a button in the kind
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of protect the property from having people walking in the
front yard when she's gone. I mean, I'm sitting here
going like I don't even know what to be where
to begin to look on that kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, I think a lot is going to be depending
on you know, there's going to depend on the opening,
the type of fencing. I think what we need to
do first is exactly kind of get an idea of
exactly what we're doing now. If the vinyl is gone
and we're gonna go, we're going.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To replace it. Yeah, We're going to replace it because
now's the time to do it, because now that we've
got the side done, we're going to do the other
side with it nothing right now and put the same
type of posts, and then we're going to replace and
refresh the front. But I figured again I would I
wanted to again. You've talked to all the vendors, you
know that you know the deal. So I'm kind of like,
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you know, these people that have long driveways have these
automatic gates. Well, I know I don't have a long driveway.
I don't have the right to the front of the house.
But at the same time, you know, my wife's a teacher,
she said, May one years old. I'm sixty six years old.
We ain't bring chickens anymore, right, So we're kind of
going like, yeah, so I'm trying to be logical here.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So yeah, well you can you know, you can actually
have when you're talking about a gate, you're talking about
just for the driveway, then yep, okay, yeah, Well what
I would do is there there are there's a thousand
different sizes. You can have them custom made, you can
do all kinds of things. What I would do is
(10:31):
I would literally google security gates for driveways and take
a look and see exactly what you're doing. But to
be brief about it, what you would have is you
would have your support post just similar to your fence,
but they would be metal. It would be all part
(10:53):
of that. That would be you know, in a sauna
tube with concrete so it's anchored properly. And uh and
why are run to that now? My guess is, and
I don't know this, My guess is there there are
certainly ones that have receivers where you can open them automatically,
either from your phone or from the car, which might
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be really nice to have, and they could be butted
up to the post of the fence itself. So you
finding out.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Again you're yeah, you're right, Gary, You're you're you're hitting
You're you just did a grand slam right over the fence. Okay,
all right talking about because that's that's the thing I'm
running into is again, at our at our age, we
we can you know, we enjoy life. We still work.
We both work full tons, so it's kind of like
we're not just sitting here going uh, but we have
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to maintain the yard. We we just spent one weekend
taking an original ship that she was a widow when
we got married, her previous husband that pushed it up
like fifteen years ago and it probably just gave out, right,
So we just took We just took it down two
weeks ago. Literally two of us poured down piece by piece,
and I put it out for the city. Yeah. So
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you know, I don't mind working, but I'm not stupid either. Yeah.
The old work smarter work, work smarter, not harder.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So here's the assignment. Then, ken is number one, find
out exactly what kind of wood this is? Is it
just regular white pine. Is it pressure treated pine? Probably
not cedar, probably not red wod, But find out exactly
what it is. If it's pressure treated wood, I'm probably
gonna wait till next spring at least. And if you
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go with the the the most solid color stain or
or solid paint, paint's gonna last you longer. Okay, that's
the longest lasting good quality paint. Primed ten to fifteen years,
solid color stain five to seven years. And if if
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it's pressure treated, I don't think I would paint. I
would use the solid color stain. If it is just
straight pine, I would paint it. And then the lower
ones are the semi transparent stains that are darker in
color like a canyon brown or redwood of cedar, maybe
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three four years, and then you're clear or very light
like an oak. You're going to get one year on
the clear and two year on the oak. So call
any time when you find out exactly what that wood is,
and we can always kind of regroup and talk it through.
Once again, appreciate the call, and enjoy the weekend. We'll
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of want to go back and talk a little bit
more about the pressure treated fence. I think it's pressure
(16:54):
tread fence. I doubt if it's regular pine, even though
he said that the poster certainly pressure treated. The pine
fencing maybe, but it's probably pressure treated too. When you
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Remember when pressure treated wood is made, and there's different kinds,
it's infused with a chemical that keeps them from rotting
in some insect damage. So it's an extent of life
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painted and sealed very well or it will rot or
insects will get into it. But one of the things
about the solids, the benefit is it lasts longer. The
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more challenging it is to adhere to the pressure tree wood.
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that easy alert more easy to bite onto that pressure
tree of wood. For instance, even if you just got it,
use an oxygenated bleach to scrub that down. It's not
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chlorine bleach, it's oxygenated bleach. And then, even though it's
brand new and it sounds crazy to do this, use
a deck brightener. A deck brightener can take oh gray
pressuree wood and make it look almost like no again.
When you put it on new pressure treated wood, it
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opens up the pores to be able to accept a
solid color stain, so adhesion is much improved. And of
course the number one thing is that pressure treated wood
has to dry out to a point where it can
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how are you.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
I'm doing good, Gary's been a while since I visited
with you. Still trying to keep the water out. But
I've got another issue here on the old cabin, and
that's this. I've always noticed. It's about the place about
three years old and made some great big logs, and
I noticed some what all call wormholes or little little.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Holes around in it.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I've never I've watched to see if there's ever any
sawdust or anything coming out. Never seemed to be anyway.
We re stayed in the whole thing, did the whole
thing three years ago now. But I'm watching these holes
and I'm looking at them, so I get to look
it all around the place, and on one part of
the house I can see where there's some little black
almost look like mice droppings, but much smaller around A
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few would appear to be not new holes. They're just
a little piles of them there, like something's coming from
the outside. And so I'm looking at this thing, and
I'm going, okay, let me see. Two years ago we
went around to the show log between the first and
second stories and put bor eight plugs in it.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Ah, that's eighteen events are two peg So we.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Did abor eight around the whole entire perimeter that thing.
But that's between the first and second I'm looking at
these logs and I'm thinking, very small hole, you know,
the size of maybe a pencil eraser. But I found
money the other day and it looked like there was
a about the size of a diamond. So I pushed
on it and got to looking at it right by
going to the door, and I sucked my finger in
there and in some hollow inside of the log there,
I'm thinking, oh, this is not good.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
So what I'm thinking of is I'm thinking of we
also are right in the woods.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
We're literally in the.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
On the mountain, and it seems like when we put
any kind of strong chemicals or anything around, it has
an effect on my wife's hummingbirds. She has a literally
a flock of them that come in here, and they
seem to be very sensitive to chemicals and other things.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But what I'm looking for, and I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Wonder if you or your any of your listeners might
have a I'm looking for something. I know it's going
to be a lot of work, but I'm looking around,
going around all these little holes and put some sort
of injection in there, and I'm thinking, you know, I
realize it, sometimes you gotta use chemicals, but I wonder
if there's any borax in my mind, I mix up
some twenty team twenty mule team borax and bore out
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with a syringe and shoot it into those holes. But
that's going to be pretty time consuming. But is there
anything you can think of? I've done the bor right,
and I'm just thinking of something to go around through
the holes himself, put something in them and then and
then I'll get me some chink or something to go
ahead and start covering those up. Because I can't tell
you if there's more of an happening or not, but
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it looks like I might have a little more activity.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So about the so the bor rate is certainly the
way to go to answer your question. Uh, I don't know.
I'm I feel pretty certain that there's those plugs that
you talked about where you would drill in and insert.
I don't know if there is like a liquid to inject.
I just don't know that answer. Over all. If you
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were telling me and you are that you have these holes,
you know, throughout the log cabin, the one thing I
would do is you can actually, you know, you can
fill those holes right just as you said, and then
if that is about ready to be restained. There is
bora aid based wood preservatives. There's one called Boracare. There's
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one I think it's timbore like timber, but bo r.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I've actually used there, I guess I forgot to tell you.
I put it.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I put it, mixed it up and painted a big
brushion before we before we stayed three years ago. I
mixed up for a care was the name of it.
But you can mix up deluted with water and paint
it on there and just let it dry on. So
I've done that once and that that might be my
best solution is great to give the whole thing. Just
another swab of that, because that way it'll get in
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the holes.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It'll get in on the surface, right it agree, I
mean finished.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
There may be something that you could inject right into
the holes. I don't know. My solution would be, like
you know, the bora care and you know, do the
entire structure and how long did that last? You?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Well, it seemed to work pretty good for a couple
of years. I mean, I've got to tell you these holes.
I've always seen the holes in there, but I've never
seen any new ones until I got to look around there. Actually,
just today I left. I searched the whole thing, and
there's only six or eight of them. But if there's
six rate of them the outside you can see, then
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you know there's sixty or eighty of them on the
inside that you can't. It's got a mince theory on that.
So I'm trying to get something to make them systemic.
It seemed to work real well on what I call
the sill log between the two stories down around there,
because those things were every two feet. They put them
two feet and switched to the other side, back and
forth on the log, and we put a lot as
I was doing. I'm going to I hope I'm not
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sacrificing any structural integrity. But they're only half an inch round,
so you just drill tho down there, but those plugs
in and seal them, and that seems to have worked
pretty good. But that's what I was wondering, if there's
anything in a smaller liquid form that you can put
into smaller holes that makes the systemic And the answer
is probably going to be no.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You need to go around and you bet you there's
something out there, and I'll bet you it's gonna be.
You know what I would do a is if there
is in your locale or close to your own locale
log cavin. You know that it's especialty home, right and
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they kind of have their own industry in their own
set of problems, and checking with them to help identify
what that insect is and how they would handle it.
I think that'd be step one. Step two would be
even if there's a pest control company, they may have
some experience in there where you know, they have access
(29:03):
to different products than we have, and you know, and
then you always kind of got the bore of care
to fall back on.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, and that's that. You're right, that's the most obviously
should have thought of that. We had a we had
a guy come up here three years ago. We were
starting to get some ind brought on some of the
caps and the logs and stuff. We had him go
through it just he just went through and did everything.
Did he POxy and he poxied all the ends of him,
you know, because he spent the night now or spend
it later. So pretty expensive. But we had all of
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that done. And and he was that kind of uh
uh tradesman he was. He specialized in log cabins and
particularly in petitions and stuff for himself exactly. That's what
all probably need to do is this might be this
might be the one might be out of the do
it yourself realm, and I might have to get an experts.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well yeah, and get yourself some advantage of getting to
some stronger products. And you know with the hummingbird issue, uh,
factoring that into and yeah, when you let me know
exactly which direction you went when when you get it
going had some success, just be curious. But I do
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think you always have the bora care to fall back on.
But you know, maybe there is something a little more
pinpoint and you know where you're not working this hard.
I'm all about eating. Hey, good talking, all right? Take
care ran, thanks, take care. All right, let's go to
Joy Joy Welcome. Hey, Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
I am great? How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Doing fine? Thanks?
Speaker 7 (30:39):
So I listened to you all the time. This is
my first time calling. And if other people are listening,
they probably know who I am because I kind of
like to do a lot of things myself and I've
listened to you. I've used a lot of your products
that you've recommended. The other guy who called UH a
little while ago about I think he had a sense
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that he was going to stain and you were talking
about different types of stains and paint. So I built
a chicken coop and I did use the Defy would
stain the solid Stan acrylic. It worked out awesome. It
was a great product. I love supporting local people, easy cleanup.
(31:24):
It's held up great, looks great. My next project that's
been a project for the couple years that I haven't
done yet, and I think I know everything, but I'm
missing one one part that I can't remember exactly what
it was. So front porch our house was built in
seventy nine. The front porch is like twelve y nine.
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It's not very big. I need to level it out
a little bit because the one corner it's on a
slab and we have a half bath that goes down there,
and sometimes if we get like a really heavy rain
that it's only done this like twice in the twenty
some years we've lived there, we get a little leak
into that bathroom because it's on the same slab. I'm
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going to chip up some of the concrete. They basically
just put like a sealer level over top of it
and chip them ways stuff like that throughout the year
years that we've lived there. So I'm gonna chip I'm gonna,
you know, get all that up, do some patchwork on that,
do a solid level uh self leveling layer so I
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can get it all leveled correctly and kind of pitch
it out to a drain of it. You had mentioned
one time when I listened to you about like a
almost like a concrete cock to put on either before
you put the self leveling concrete or after the self
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leveling concrete, because then my top layer I'm going to
use a dice coating product. Don't know exactly if I'm
spreadstone or the new one or something like that. But
I miss in that one.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, let's kind of revisit that whole thing. So really,
what you're trying to do is you're trying to get
a a grade for that slab that goes away from
the house. Correct, correct?
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay? And how much thickness would we have to apply
to get that slope away from the house.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Oh, I think we're maybe like an eighth of an inch.
It's very very small, very small, all.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Right, And so let me take you in a little
bit different direction. Okay. You've also probably heard me talk
about a dice coding called rock patch. Yes, rock patch,
this would be perfect for that product. I'll tell you why.
First of all, when you use a cementatious product, I
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think what you were talking about when I when you
said a cock or something to apply, I think what
I was talking about was probably a bonding agent so
that the patch adheres to the concrete. Concrete doesn't like
to stick to concrete, so it's a mix that you
would put in the concrete to get adhesion. Now, over
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the last couple of years, different manufacturers, including disce codings,
have come out with a non cementatious leveling agent for concrete.
It sounds amazing and it is. It comes in a
gallon bucket and a three gallon bucket and it's pre mixed.
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It's non cementatious. It sticks to the concrete as long
as it's clean, and it can be trialed on to
whatever thickness you want. It's like butter, and it doesn't
matter because if you're going to put the coating over it,
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even if there's a difference in texture or difference in color,
it'll all it'll all blend together because you're putting a
coating over it. And that would be very very easy
to do, and you can, you know, check basically laying
a two by four on there now and getting it
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level and just kind of gauging, you know, at least
how much you'd want to put at the beginning, so
you could feather edge that down. I think that would
be an easy problem. You know, don't butt it up
against the wall. Course, you know, keep that scene there.
But I think that would be the easiest and also
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probably the longest lasting remedy to the problem unless you
wanted to lift that slab, and you might not be
able to do that.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
It doesn't need to be left yeah, and it doesn't
need to be lefted. You can't see any type of literally,
it's just this, you know, probably very small spot where
the bath, where the half bath comes in there just
when we get like a wind rain and it will
you know, kind of give a little too much in
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there and then the slab, and the slab goes through
the whole lengths of the part of the house. So
it's the front porch, the bathroom, the laundry room connects
to the garage, you know. So it's not like it's
hanging by itself or anything like that. It just needs
to be feathered. Yeah, it just needs to be feathered down,
so just so it just drains.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Called rock Patch.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's called rock Patch. And know there'll be a video
on their website. And it's so much better than other
resurfacing products. Now you do have to trial it quick.
Creed has a powder one you mix with water gets
the consistency of a driveway ceiler and you can move
that around with a squeegee. I just don't think that's
gonna last as long as the rock Patch. I don't
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think you're gonna get enough thickness with that and then
the you know, the the the like the the latex patch.
That powder mixing with water, the rock patch is just
gonna give you a better bond and it's gonna be
easier to do.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Okay, all right, great, I will look that up. All right, wonderful,
have a great have a great day.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Thanks you do the.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Same, Thanks Joy, take care, quick break and we got
William and and Ned and you if you'd like to
join us, we're gonna run at times, so you'll have
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Speaker 1 (40:21):
All right, back we go in about eight minutes before
the top of the hour and William welcome.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Yeah, Gary, I heard it before, right, I'm not always
listening to the problem. You don't have at that time
listening nonetheless, And ants they come in the house and
weirdly like in the living room window of bedroom window
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and another bedroom upstairs. They come in and they die. Okay,
I would like them to not come in. I'd like
them to dive somewhere else down the street.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Hey, that's fair enough. First question, since they are dying,
is there any treatment being used on the exterior of
the house.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
I will go around and use the whatever. The Orto
spray is just engen right for everything, whatever house defense
or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Right right, all right, all right, home defense.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
Except the wife does not want them coming coming inside
the house.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, well you know what next step, right, So so
that's that's a fair that's that's a fair request too,
because you know, a lot of times we don't care
what's going on outside. But on the other hand, you know,
we can put bait on the inside, which a lot
of people use. Those little things that look like hockey pucks.
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They actually draw the answers to them because they think
it's a food source. So that's what all ants are doing,
is they're searching for food and water. Period, that's their
whole life. So if the ants are trying to get
into your house to search for food and water, and
they're getting in the house and then they die, my
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guess is that home defense that you're using around the
outside is probably you know, a slow way of killing
the ants. So I think, really, what you got to
go to the most basic, back to the most basic
thing is so how are they getting in the house.
Let's let's tighten up the house. That's where they're getting in.
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You've kind of got a perimeter set out around the house.
We can certainly put bait, those bait pucks inside your house,
but they're going to get the bait. The only way
you eliminate ants, period is you kill the queen. So
you put the bait inside, they take it back to
the queen and it eliminates the queen. Then you're going
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to live and eate the ants. Right now, you're you're
kind of sickening the helper ants and they're getting inside
the house to get to the food and water, but
they're dying. But they're never getting the stuff back to
the queen. So we can do one or two things.
We can go ahead and tighten up follow ants. Ants
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they create highways. You'll be able to see them go
through the mulcher, through the grass and up the wall,
and you'll watch them go into the house. And just
start tightening it up, probably with calking like criarly calking.
And once you tighten that up, we'll keep the ants
out of the house and then keep using your perimeter sprays.
And I think you'll be good.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
And and you were, you were gonna say one more
is there something you can put uh? Is there a
granular or something you can put this longer lasting outside?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, there there is, there's there's there's ant pellets or
that comes under different names. It's a prean and it's granular.
Used to have seven dust. You could go around the
house and where it's gonna last two three months. But yes,
Terot makes an ant dust. I'm visualizing it in the
orange and blue bag and sprinkle that about three feet
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out from the foundation and then work on just tightening
up the house, you know, making sure the windows are
closed and locks, they're nice and sealed, if there's ain't
calking missing, and follow those ants, see where they're entering
your house. And William, that would certainly take care of
the issue. And uh and good luck to you all right,
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Danny boy, that's gonna wrap up another weekend. And Danny,
thank you again. It's been a fun weekend here, a
lot of calls and a lot of conversations. Absolutely, and
good Lord willing. We'll be back next weekend for more
at Home with Garry Sullivan.
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