August 9, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, best time of the day. I'm going to say,
good afternoon, welcome our number four and you're at home
with Gary Sullivan and talking about your home and taking
your calls and talking a little maintenance, talking a little repair,
and well this time of year, there's always plenty to do.
In fact, quite honestly, if you own a home, when
you work around the home, you're protecting your investment. I
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joined Tom Brenneman on Thursdays at eight ten in the
morning and we have a little ten minute chat and
we've kind of really got into, you know, talking about
finding problems before their problems. You might have a water stain,
that's not the problem. It's part of a problem. It's
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like I got to cover that up. But the real
problem is why did it stain? And so that's what
we're trying to do here too, is just have a conversation,
try and track down what's causing that issue. So thank
you for giving us a call and staying with us
as we work our way through each and every weekend.
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All right, Linda, welcome, Hi there, Hello, yes, hello, yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, I am going to be painting the front door
of my house. It faces north okay, it has a
screen door as well as the inside. Almost totally would,
And I know what color I want to put up,
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but I'm wondering if I use a paint on that's
good on wood, if it will be good on the
metal screen door. The screen door is probably at least
fifty years old.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, I like to tell everybody you can
pay ain't anything. You really can. It's just the question
of what your expectations are. To answer your question, Yeah,
there's paints that can paint on wood and can paint
on aluminum. Your preparation work for both will be a
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little bit different with aluminum. Is it a color aluminum
or is it painted before? No, so it's just aluminum
in color, correct, right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And dirty because it's.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, yep, Well preps the key. Are you going to
keep that door?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Because I'm going to be moving out of the house
and I'm not going to buy a nice, modern green
door for it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, all right, So where do you want to start.
You want to start on the front door or you
want to start on the aluminum door.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The aluminum door, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, So what I would is there any texture to
it or is it pretty smooth.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, there is some texture to it, but it's not
plenty type of texture.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
On it, just a little rough.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, okay, So when you paint anything that's a little
bit rough, the shinier the pain is, the more it'll
show the roughness the texture. I'm not saying either way
is good or bad, but just keep that in mind.
So there's two types of paint that you could you
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could use on that aluminum door and wood door. One
of them is just a regular exterior house paint. Sherman
Williams has one called Emerald house paint. I have painted
a wood door and a fiberglass door with that particular paint.
It is self priming. However, if I was going to
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paint that bare aluminum, I would prime it. So if
I were to paint that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
You would not use that paint.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, I would. You could use that paint. You could
use that paint. You could use that paint on both.
But I said, if you were going to paint that
on aluminum and it is self priming, I would still
use a regular prim a regular metal primer on that
aluminum door. So I would take some I wouldn't do
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too much. I'd probably take a sanding sponge, which would
be about a six hundred grit or a seven hundred
grit sanding sponge, or maybe like a triple lot steel wool.
Just something in a little soap and water, and I'd
scrub that door down with that. That's going to get
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rid of the oxidation, get rid of the dirt, because
preparation is certainly the key. And I would just wipe
that dry, and then I would get a gray metal primer,
and I would paint that metal door with a gray
metal primer. And then we have a choice of what
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we're going to put on there, and that is the
Emerald house paint I just talked about. That's a flat
latex or a satin latex paint which is priming, and it
attached to that existing primary we just put on. Or
there's one called Sherman Williams Emerald Euthane trim enamel. It
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looks like a good oil based light sheen any color
you want, and go right over that metal primer with that.
It's a little harder finish, little more smooth finish. It'll
kind of smooth that out, or the appearance will smooth
it out a little bit. Either one at.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Work okay, all right, and then the finishing color would
be the same paint.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I used on the way Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So
for the wood door, crap, Yeah, a lot easier on
a wood door. When I talked about using you know,
a very light grit sandpaper on the aluminum door, you
can use that same light sandpaper on the wood door
because all you're doing is you're just dulling the surface.
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It probably already is dull, but you're just giving it
a little more opportunity to bite onto that. All right,
And you will not need the prime both of those
because it is wood and there is pain on there already.
Both of those that I suggested for the storm door,
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the emerald house paint or the emerald trimm enamel will
work on the wood and will work on the metal,
So either one will work. Great, Okay, sound good, all right,
very good. Yep, you got it, You got it, Daryll.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Welcome, Thank you for taking a call. I have a
problem with a pest. I think it could be hornets,
but I know there's a lot of washed hornets. These
guys have about half inch long landing gear that hangs
down when they fly, but they're apparently getting into the
attic of my garage, and I think their access. I
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didn't get up to watch them closely, but I could
from another place determine how they get in. I have
a composition roof, and when they built the house, they
put no flashing between the bottom of the edge of
the roof and the face shipboard, and so I I
could pull back the moving a little bit and see
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that below the sheeting there's about a quarter of bench gap,
a dark hole going in probably into someplace under the attic,
and that's apparently where they're going mediate rid of them.
So I, you know, I'm not gonna do it myself
because I don't like takes tongue and I don't know
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But I'm glad you said that, quite honestly, because there's
probably a nest in there, and it's probably a bigger
project than you're anticipating, all right, So you know there's
all kinds of traps and all kinds of sprays that
you can knock them right out of the air and everything.
But I was going to suggest that to you, Daryl,
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is that might be something you want to turn over
to a pest control company. And because the first question
I was going to ask you, is, well, have you
been in the attic have you found the nest? And
the second question is have you found any hornets inside
the house, because eventually you're going to not in the house. Okay,
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So I had this problem one time and I started
having hornets. I didn't observe it outside, but I started
seeing little hornets inside the house, and it was either
going to be in the attic or it was going
to be down in the basement that the nest. I
knew there was a Luckily ours was in the basement.
But yeah, okay, so you'll need to get a pest
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control company out there and they'll get up in the attic,
they'll determine, you know, if there is a nest. They
will talk about eradicating it and remove all of the nest,
and then you can talk about the entryway and getting
that repaired.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Well, that's what I want to talk to you about.
They house is nine years old, so it has no
flashing along the facia board. Had they put flashing, that
probably would have that would have been a wise thing.
I've got would sheating? Excuse me, probably of sheating up there?
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And it doesn't part I looked at it look like
is okay, it's not in trouble. But uh, should I
invest the money and not invest spend the money? Uh
plashing put around the house or would that would probably
wouldn't do the totally. They couldn't totally close it anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
No, I think what you know, let me just kind
of put this in order to I think what I
would do. This is my opinion without seeing it. I
would first work on removal the nest, which you and
I will probably agree on that that's not a problem. Yes.
Then I would talk to a roofer and have him
really kind of take a look at the whole situation,
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because obviously that is their entry point and there should
be flashing at that point, and or is there other
areas that he's seeing that is not right there. I
don't think I can really help you until I see
exactly how it's set up, and he may just say,
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you know, no, there is maybe a little bag construction
here and we can do X Y Z, or yeah,
that should have been definitely flashed. We want to do that.
I think I would get them in and let them
inspect it after the nest is removed and things are
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under control there.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Uh huh, okay, okay, And I know there are lots
of species of these guys on a swap or whatever
they are.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, there is. And there's German hornets, and that's
kind of what it sounds like to me. That would
be getting in there.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Wonderful. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But we'll see when we get there. I mean, we
don't know how bad it is till the past control
gets in there. And usually those do have that's the
big almost looks like a paper mache nest, and that's
probably what's in the attic.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, are they we have swallows? That's sign a place
they love to nest every year, and I take clean
it off and they come back the same place year
after year. Is that going to be a problem with
these guys?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Do they memory? Usually? No, Well, it depends on the
it depends on the species. I should answer it that way, Okay,
But no, I had the hornet wass that nest was removed.
They've never been back. I found the point of entry,
which was underneath an exhaust pipe about a foot off
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the ground, so I would have had been laying on
my back to originally spot it, and I never did
see it until after the nest was removed patch that
and I've never had them, so it depends. Yeah, there's
a lot of depends in their right. And we got
to find out what kind of species it is. We
know where the entry point is. We got to find
the nest. If it's a paper machine nest, it will
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be removed. They will, they would not return, but we'll
certainly have to fill in the their entrance.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yes, okay, thank you so much. You're always there to
help us.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Thank you very good. Thank you. All right, quick break
and we'll try and get to Jim and Ken and
John as we continue. You're at home with Gary Sullivan
fifty five K see de talk station twelve twenty three,
twelve twenty three on your Saturday at home with Gary Sullivan.
Get back two. Yeah, that's the time, twelve twenty three,
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Just like yes, sir's a second time. Let's get back
to the phone call get back to him.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Jim, welcome, Hi Gary, you are the master. How are you?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm doing fine? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Here's a tough question for you.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I don't know if you can handle this one. But
we live we live on a lake and a part
of our foundation. But it's about two to three feet
away from the lake edge. And yeah, we're starting to
get some erosion and we're getting nervous. We had some
stones a stone path along there, and some bigger bowlers
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and they're kind of falling in and we're getting nervous.
What do you recommend you're the genius about these things.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, you know, water control can only go so far, right,
I mean, I get this without the floods, you know,
I mean water is the winter all the time. I mean,
we can do everything we can to stop it, to
divert it, but if there's too much of it, we've
got a problem. So so you say, is it is
it lake Eerie or is it just a lake a pond?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
No, it's it's just a small man made lake. Okay,
it's you know, it's not it's nothing. It's exciting Emperor too,
who knows.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And we had a lot, a lot of rain this year,
so it's higher than normal. Right, Okay, So the lake
and then what do you got three f and then
the foundation.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
You say, yes, preciate, and the lake when it rains
a lot, there's an overflow.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know, it's just goes and then it will go
to a lower lake.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So my next question. That was my next question. Can
we lower that lake at all because it's easier Again,
it's it's it's all about to control the water, Jim.
So you know, putting bigger stones up the water is
eventually going to win unless we can control the water.
So the volume can be controlled by the overflow and
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maybe even controlled a little bit. Maybe it needs to
be a little bit more controlled this year. So can
we do that.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I share the lake with a neighbor. I'm sure the
neighbor would be fine with it, but I don't think
I could go that route. I wanted to know. There's
I see rebar here and there around the other areas.
I'm wondering if they pounded in some rebar and can
you put any kind of maps that they have an
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erosion matter reap are down there or what do you think?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Do you live in a municipality or a county that
has a water and soil division.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Chagrined Falls. I doubt it they have a water division yet.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean you might really check with them, to be
honest with you, I mean, there's a lot of there's
a lot of things going on there. It's not quite
as simple as you and I are sounding it. I mean,
you know, you can go in and you could create
another wall and then have you know, a underground water
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line because the water table is going to be higher.
When that lake, you know, the water starts seeping down
in and growing towards the foundation. It's really a matter
of catching that water and not making your house a
boat and sealing the water ups. Really about diverting that
water away from the from the structure to make it
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more sound.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
So you know, it's not it hasn't been happening fast.
This house is one hundred years old and that's that property.
I mean, it's probably pretty much, but it did it
did start to break down.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, so does the water does the not the height
of the water now I'm talking about the width of
the pond, has that gotten higher? You know, even like
a prevailing wind where it could create it creates some
water movements and over time it starts eroding the bank
and the lake gets you know, wider, and maybe not
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as deep in that area, but it gets wider. And
maybe that that's why I mentioned the water division. And
maybe there's stone that needs to be put in there
to not have it a road anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I think, yeah, because I don't think there's a lot
of wind, and you know, it's we're in the middle
of nowhere. It's pretty serene lake. But that that's pretty
much we should talk to the water department.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I really think so, because even water just lapping
up in a small pond will cause erosion. I mean,
you know, and if that house has been sitting there
for a one hundred years, that that lake may just
have gotten wider.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I see.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And you don't think I should talk to like a
basement water you know company, one of those guys, even
though they're probably who knows, I don't will think crooks.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, there are some good ones. There're some good ones,
but they're going to tell you the same story. I mean,
you can call them up and have them take a
walk around. Maybe they can pinpoint something they can do.
But a good one will be looking at reducing the
water table and also filling cracks and making patches and
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things like that. But a good water proofer will be
more of a water controller also. And I think if
it were I I would check again. And we know
the problem is the lake, right the lake is getting
closer to the house. The house has been near one
hundred years I'm starting to get nervous. I'm worried that
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that lake is changing my environment. So let's look.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
At the lake put the house on Should I put
the house up on the market.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Soon, right, So let's look at the lake and let's
see if they got any ideas. They may say, well, yeah,
you know, after one hundred years, that lake is probably
four feet wider than it was, and you know, you know,
maybe let's just put some boulders in there. And I
remember the guy had quick creed. He had this problem
similar to this, and he took his he took bags
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of fast setting concer crete and put took a box
knife and cut through the plastic and set those there
and when the water lapped up, it turned into concrete
and it created, you know, a buffer. So I really
think i'd focus on the lake. And if you don't
get the answers that you're looking for, then get somebody
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in there that does the waterproofing where you can take
a look at the you know, how we're going to
control this. Do we need drain pipes installed in the
slab on the inside of the house and also the
outside of the house, because it is totally all about
water control.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
That's very very excellent news.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You are a genius.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
As I always say, I hope that helps Jiff, Thank
you much appreciate it. All right, uh Ken and John,
we're gonna have a little conversation with Todd Harville. He
is with Rhino Shield. We're going to talk about options
in painting your house, and then we'll try and get
you on the other side of the interview as we continue.
You're at home with Gary Salivan right here five care
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Seed Detalk station. All right, busy weekend, it is. Thanks
for joining me and if this is the year we
get a paint the house, I got an option for you.
You've probably heard different advertisements for a product called Rhino Shield.
Do you know what rhino shield is and what it
can do for you? How you can coat change the
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color in your home, protect your home, save energy and
have it lasts longer than you know seven eight nine years.
Well with me is Todd Harville. He is with Rehino
Shield and Todd welcome again at home with Gary Salvan.
How you doing.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Great?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Gary, Thanks for having us on today.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You're quite welcome. Why don't you give us an overview
of what rhino shield is and how long you guys
been applying that to Holmes.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, Gary, we've been doing this now for over two
decades internationally. And what rhino shield is is it's a
ceramic coating that creates breatheability and longevity on homes where
you're eliminating the you know, need of painting every five
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to you know, eight years.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
When you say a ceramic coating, what what what what's
that do for me?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Ceramics, what that is is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's our filler.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And we don't use clayer chalk of course those items
you know, things break down the uh, the acrylics and
you know colorant in a in a paint, ceramics. What
it does it creates an r value uh breatheability and
it just ensures that your walls stay cooler, you know
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when it's you know, especially hot like to day that
you know, like the we guarantee those walls will never
get above ninety.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Five degrees Wow your home then?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Correct, Yeah, you're putting a vapor barrier on your building. Yeah,
absolutely excellent value.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
As I got my duke bill that you got my attention,
because if any paint can reap you know, save energy,
I mean, we don't hear that about paint, do we,
I mean the Rhino shield. And by the way, folks,
it looks just like paint. I have it on my home.
It looks just like paint. And it's going to have
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some energy efficiency to it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Exactly. It's not going to look like a big, old,
sick piece of vinyl on your building. It's going to
maintain the integrity of whatever we're coating. So your wood's
going to look like wood, bricks are going to.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Look like brick.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And how long does that last? You mentioned paint going
eight years or so, and that's respectable, but this outperforms it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Absolutely. We guarantee the coding to last for twenty five
years because that's what we guarantee it for. And you
know it. This eliminates the maintenance on a you know,
a normal you know, paint job and having to get
and back in front of somebody to you know, hey,
is this coding gonna last this time? We are, you know,
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a permanent solution, and we were back up by our warranty.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Sure sure, So I'm sure this comes in any color
you would like. Probably too many colors, Todd, in my opinion,
how many colors can choose? Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, we personally have fifteen hundred colors and we can
color match anything.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So the sky's the limit. Yeah. Yeah, So when you
come to the point where you need to paint your
house and you look at Rhino Shield, obviously it's gonna
cost a little bit more than paint and it is
an investment in your house and it's gonna last twenty
five years. Can you talked to me about that? Of course,
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we have some energy saving properties to it, We have
a good quality finish, lots of colors, and it is
an investment.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Absolutely. It's of course we were We're more expensive than
your normal you know, big box store paints.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Sure. Sure, you know we're.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Sometimes two to three times more expensive than a regular
paint job, right, But you know when you times that
up by you know, fifteen twenty twenty five years, you're
coming ahead in the long run with you know, pretty
substantial savings.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Sure, and that doesn't they even.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Mentioned that, you know, the deterioration of wood, you know rot,
you know, damage the woods that isn't properly you know protected.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Sure, well, I'll tell you one of the big things
I'm getting calls all the time is, you know, wildlife
getting in the attics because the paint wasn't maintained. And
you know, I know, you do the calking, you do
the taping, and and you spray the rhino shield on.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Correct, That's right, because what we're looking for, Gary is
the consistency of eight to ten mil sick.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
A lot of times when you're brushing and rolling, you're
pulling the paint and you're sinning and these you really
don't know what the thickness is at that point, and
we just want to make sure that we're getting the consistency.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, when I was talking about the wildlife getting in
that ex that's that's exactly where it is. And quite honestly,
insurance coverage isn't really covering it. If they say, oh,
it wasn't maintained, that paint was worn off, that minor
join on the soffet, you know it was wide open.
The raccoon just pulled the boards apart. I mean, you
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don't think about those things, but I mean that project
getting that fixed and cleaned up, you know, it can
almost be a double digit thousands. So a good coating
like a rhino shield with the expert installation. By the way,
those guys did a great job. It's been probably six years.
I mean, it did my house in a day, and
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I'm sure most of your projects are a day or two.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Correct, Yes, normally we start on a Monday. We should
have that house wrapped up, you know, by Friday.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, And you just mentioned about our crews. All of
our crews work for us. They're factory trained, they do
a thor z perfectly, and we just know that when
we sent them out to a job that the job
is being done correctly.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Sure, sure, well, certainly lots of benefits with the Rhino shield,
and I love the warranty and everything. This has been
a funny year. I mean it's been really hot, it's
been chilly spring, it's been a lot of rain. But
you know, getting we're getting into the best time to
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put a coating on your home. The fall is outstanding.
But people need to book this now, don't they.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Absolutely. We are usually about forty five days out to
finish your job from the day you sayed go. We
have enough crews to accommodate that kind of a turnaround,
and right now we're just swamped where you know, as
you know, September starts to hit. People are starting to realize, oh,
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I need to get my house.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Done for the winter.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Hits no kid, and it's just going to be a
mad dash before the end of the season ends.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I've been preaching that for the last two months. I
think it's going to be, you know, issues with roofers
and painters and concrete people. I mean, all this service
work for the outside of our home, all right. So
how can people get more information on Rhino shield And
who do they call and get the process started?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, they can just dial our number. It's eight five
five Rhinos zero five and a lady will get you
in touch with me and I'll come out and give
you a quote.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Okay, that sounds fair enough, all right, Todd, thank you
very much for joining us today. I appreciate it, all right,
take care. Todd Is he's got a great little company
with that Rhino Shielded. It's it's different than paint and
it has many additional features, from the energy savings to
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the milliage of the paint. I mean that means a
lot too, and a great probably. I'm very satisfied with.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Your house still looks beautiful outside.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It looks pretty great, gone good, Yes it does. And
Gary doesn't climb ladders very well. Anymore either, So we'll
let the understand that. Yeah, we'll let the runner shield
people take care of that. Yes, sir, all right, let's
take a break. We got Ken and John. If you'd
like to join us, well, you better hurry as we continue.
You're at home with Gary right here. Fifty five care
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see detalk station. All right, back here we go, twelve
forty seven at home with Gary Sullivan and uh, good
day to get a few things done around the home.
Stay cool, be careful out there, that's for sure. And
be careful with the products too. There are limitations on
the back of every label with moisture and also temperature.
Pay attention to that. All right, Ken, welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
I appreciate your time today.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yes, sir, I have.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
A about one hundred year old, maybe a little more
than a hundred year old, brick building. It's solid masonry building,
and I cannot seem to keep the walls from in
certain areas anyway from effervescence. It just keeps coming back,
popping off the paint, and then we have to go
back and smooth out walls and redoing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
All right, right, right, how long has it been doing it?
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Quite a while? Yeah, quite a year.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, so what I tell you, want to tell you
what the deal with it is, You're probably never gonna
stop it, okay, And and plus it's one hundred years old,
so what it is? It always goes back to water.
I know people kidding me all the time. Your answers
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is water, Well it is because in that masonry wall
is lime and salts. And when there's when there was
or is an abundance of water, the process of degrading begins.
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And I use the word bloom. I don't know if
that's the proper term or not, but that salt grows
in that lime, that white chalky looks almost like salt,
starts coming to the surface, and some of the masonry
maybe comes off, maybe it doesn't, some of the paint
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comes off because that salt's pushing that paint off. And
once it starts, it starts and painting it should keep
the moisture off, but you know, once it cracks, that
moisture is being absorbed in the process just keeps continuo,
is what I'm kind of getting it. Ken uh so,
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really about the one thing you can do, and a
lot of it and old buildings too. If there's been
pain on there for a lot of years. A lot
of paints back in the day didn't breathe. Today's paints,
if put on straight masonry, they breathe. They're like gortex.
They don't let water through the paint, but they allow
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the water to exhaust through the paint, and.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
That helped my knowledge. To my knowledge, there has never
been paint. There was never paint on the brick. Okay,
there never was for as long as the building's been there.
Can I tell that there was ever paint on it?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
But I tried sealing it, putting a masonry seiler on it,
and after two or three years it came back. So
I had it painted five years ago, and for a short,
very short period of time, I had no problems. But
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now I'm having problems again. And you know, all that
was within five years.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Well, and it's older too. I don't know. You know,
as far as I know, the only thing you can
do is use an effluorescence cleaner acid, get it off,
and do exactly what you've been doing. But what I'm
telling you is I think it's going to keep coming back.
I don't think there's a way to stop it. I
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don't know of a way to stop it.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Well. I even tried Rhinoshield. That's that's you painted five
years ago, and I thought, man, this ceramic coding, it'll
be a godstand. I wanted to worry about it. Most
painters only want they give me two to four years warranty,
and I had a twenty five year warranty. But them,
and I'll let go what you said in regards to
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their crews, their cruise was absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Right, they're nice, they do a good job at all.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, but I was hoping that even that would stop it.
But it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying. I just really, you know,
outside of sighting that and hiding it, I don't know.
I don't know how you would ever correct it. I
really don't. Once it starts, and I don't know, you know,
when you get into that concrete that's older, it was
made differently. I mean, but that's that's what the issue is,
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and that's totally the issue. It's the efflorescence. It's gonna
keep blooming. It's going to keep being a problem. Even
like I talk about dry lock, it's a water proof
it's a Portland cement based paint. The same thing will
happen after four or five years, that efflorescence will start
growing again. And if it's below brick on brick, I
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mean there could be around the windows and that aren't
properly cocked. I mean, moisture can get in all kinds
of crazy ways, And even with this particular problem being
one hundred years old, once it starts, it's just there.
It's just going. It could be humidity. You can keep
that going. So probably not to answer you want to hear,
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but I'm just telling you the way, as far as
I know, what you're dealing with is unfortunately normal for
one hundred year old masonry wall. John, Welcome, How we doing? Yes,
they're fine.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I got a driveway I'm trying to prepare.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I guess I should say, Okay, well.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I got the kind of alligator driveway for a black
top driveway.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And so you got the surface popping off.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I'm getting a lot of weeds and all that in
there and stuff. I'm trying to keep all the dirt
out of there. But I was just wondering if there
is anything halfway decent or good that will help build.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
In the alligator.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So I go real it when you're saying an alligator area.
You got a bunch of cracks and small patches of asphalt,
and the grass is growing up between the cracks and
the small patches of asphalt. Is that what you're describing? Okay? Well,
the only way I think you're really going to take
care of it, and I guess it depends on how
big of an area it is, is to cut that
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area out and literally put in a patch at least
you know, two inches in thickness. So what I would
do is even get the mattox or something like that
and removing as much of that as you can, and
then when you come up with the portion that you've
taken care of, you want to square the sides up,
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probably with a cold chisel masonry chisel, and square those
sides up and then just get a cold patch. Not
just but you know, even if you can dig down
and even bit a little bit of a gravel base
there and then put two inches at a minimum of
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cold patch in there, it's probably the only way you're
going to you know, temporary reseal that there's probably erosion
taking place underneath and everything else. But does that sound
workable to you, John or not?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
I'm not sure. I got the funds to do all
as big of an area I would have to do.
That's what I'm trying to I'm trying to see if
there's any product out there that could help seal that area,
then I get or help fill in the area. I
guess I should say, yeah, well, and then I could
seal it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah yeah, Well, I guess the answer is that there's
not a sealer that's going to I'd be just selling
you something and you'd be wasting your money. There's nothing
that's going to the problem is the base and I'm
sure that driveway is probably over twenty years old, which
is the lifespan of asphalt, and you know, for just
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patching it, I think that's your best thing. I mean,
even if you dumped a sealer on there, No, it's
it's not going to be the long term or even
a solution for you. I mean, you could dig it
out and throw gravel in there. You still couldn't put
a seiler. The coal patch isn't expensive. It's the labor
to have somebody, you know, scrape that up and square
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the sides. But I think that's the only thing that
you're going to be able to do outside of using
a wheed and grass killer and just keeping the vegetation
down because that's continuing with the erosion. So maybe maybe
that's the option. You could also get some driveway patch,
which is a mastic kill all the vegetation scrape that out,
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but it's it's not a supportive a support product. It's
a mastic that you're going to trial over it. Maybe
you know, three ace of an inch thick, so it's
going to look okay, it's going to stop the vegetation
from growing. But you just got to know in your
mind that that's a quick fix and not a long
term fix. All right, thank you much for that call.
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I understand. I understand about budgets. Some things we can
take care of. Some things we can't. Some things we
can do ourselves. Some things we have to get a
professional service company to help do that. But asphalt driveways,
just everybody knows the lifespan on news is about twenty
twenty five years. Concrete they say fifty years. When people
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ask me, is it better to go this way or
that way? Concrete is gonna last a little longer. But
I can guarantee you concrete is guaranteed to crack and
eventually asphalt will crack as it settles, so you know pavers,
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and you're digging those up and realigning those. So we're
still searching. We're still working on that. We're absolutely still
working on it. All right, Danny Boy, thank you very
much for all your work today. You're busy today, weren't you, yes, sir, Yeah,
Danny Boy was busy. By the way, if you missed
our interview on the Dumont Global the Codings Remover, you
(41:00):
can pick that up on the iHeart app. Just go there,
go to podcast at Home with Gary Sullivan. Danny has
it up for you and labeled properly and you should
be able to take a listen. Lot good information there,
all right, good Lord Willing. We'll be back tomorrow morning
at nine o'clock for more At Home with Gary Sullivan.
All right, best time of the day. I'm going to say,
good afternoon, welcome our number four and you're at home
with Gary Sullivan and talking about your home and taking
your calls and talking a little maintenance, talking a little repair,
and well this time of year, there's always plenty to do.
In fact, quite honestly, if you own a home, when
you work around the home, you're protecting your investment. I
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joined Tom Brenneman on Thursdays at eight ten in the
morning and we have a little ten minute chat and
we've kind of really got into, you know, talking about
finding problems before their problems. You might have a water stain,
that's not the problem. It's part of a problem. It's
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like I got to cover that up. But the real
problem is why did it stain? And so that's what
we're trying to do here too, is just have a conversation,
try and track down what's causing that issue. So thank
you for giving us a call and staying with us
as we work our way through each and every weekend.
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All right, Linda, welcome, Hi there, Hello, yes, hello, yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, I am going to be painting the front door
of my house. It faces north okay, it has a
screen door as well as the inside. Almost totally would,
And I know what color I want to put up,
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but I'm wondering if I use a paint on that's
good on wood, if it will be good on the
metal screen door. The screen door is probably at least
fifty years old.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, I like to tell everybody you can
pay ain't anything. You really can. It's just the question
of what your expectations are. To answer your question, Yeah,
there's paints that can paint on wood and can paint
on aluminum. Your preparation work for both will be a
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little bit different with aluminum. Is it a color aluminum
or is it painted before? No, so it's just aluminum
in color, correct, right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And dirty because it's.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, yep, Well preps the key. Are you going to
keep that door?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Because I'm going to be moving out of the house
and I'm not going to buy a nice, modern green
door for it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, all right, So where do you want to start.
You want to start on the front door or you
want to start on the aluminum door.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The aluminum door, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, So what I would is there any texture to
it or is it pretty smooth.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, there is some texture to it, but it's not
plenty type of texture.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
On it, just a little rough.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, okay, So when you paint anything that's a little
bit rough, the shinier the pain is, the more it'll
show the roughness the texture. I'm not saying either way
is good or bad, but just keep that in mind.
So there's two types of paint that you could you
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could use on that aluminum door and wood door. One
of them is just a regular exterior house paint. Sherman
Williams has one called Emerald house paint. I have painted
a wood door and a fiberglass door with that particular paint.
It is self priming. However, if I was going to
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paint that bare aluminum, I would prime it. So if
I were to paint that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
You would not use that paint.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, I would. You could use that paint. You could
use that paint. You could use that paint on both.
But I said, if you were going to paint that
on aluminum and it is self priming, I would still
use a regular prim a regular metal primer on that
aluminum door. So I would take some I wouldn't do
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too much. I'd probably take a sanding sponge, which would
be about a six hundred grit or a seven hundred
grit sanding sponge, or maybe like a triple lot steel wool.
Just something in a little soap and water, and I'd
scrub that door down with that. That's going to get
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rid of the oxidation, get rid of the dirt, because
preparation is certainly the key. And I would just wipe
that dry, and then I would get a gray metal primer,
and I would paint that metal door with a gray
metal primer. And then we have a choice of what
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we're going to put on there, and that is the
Emerald house paint I just talked about. That's a flat
latex or a satin latex paint which is priming, and it
attached to that existing primary we just put on. Or
there's one called Sherman Williams Emerald Euthane trim enamel. It
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looks like a good oil based light sheen any color
you want, and go right over that metal primer with that.
It's a little harder finish, little more smooth finish. It'll
kind of smooth that out, or the appearance will smooth
it out a little bit. Either one at.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Work okay, all right, and then the finishing color would
be the same paint.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I used on the way Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So
for the wood door, crap, Yeah, a lot easier on
a wood door. When I talked about using you know,
a very light grit sandpaper on the aluminum door, you
can use that same light sandpaper on the wood door
because all you're doing is you're just dulling the surface.
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It probably already is dull, but you're just giving it
a little more opportunity to bite onto that. All right,
And you will not need the prime both of those
because it is wood and there is pain on there already.
Both of those that I suggested for the storm door,
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the emerald house paint or the emerald trimm enamel will
work on the wood and will work on the metal,
So either one will work. Great, Okay, sound good, all right,
very good. Yep, you got it, You got it, Daryll.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Welcome, Thank you for taking a call. I have a
problem with a pest. I think it could be hornets,
but I know there's a lot of washed hornets. These
guys have about half inch long landing gear that hangs
down when they fly, but they're apparently getting into the
attic of my garage, and I think their access. I
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didn't get up to watch them closely, but I could
from another place determine how they get in. I have
a composition roof, and when they built the house, they
put no flashing between the bottom of the edge of
the roof and the face shipboard, and so I I
could pull back the moving a little bit and see
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that below the sheeting there's about a quarter of bench gap,
a dark hole going in probably into someplace under the attic,
and that's apparently where they're going mediate rid of them.
So I, you know, I'm not gonna do it myself
because I don't like takes tongue and I don't know
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But I'm glad you said that, quite honestly, because there's
probably a nest in there, and it's probably a bigger
project than you're anticipating, all right, So you know there's
all kinds of traps and all kinds of sprays that
you can knock them right out of the air and everything.
But I was going to suggest that to you, Daryl,
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is that might be something you want to turn over
to a pest control company. And because the first question
I was going to ask you, is, well, have you
been in the attic have you found the nest? And
the second question is have you found any hornets inside
the house, because eventually you're going to not in the house. Okay,
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So I had this problem one time and I started
having hornets. I didn't observe it outside, but I started
seeing little hornets inside the house, and it was either
going to be in the attic or it was going
to be down in the basement that the nest. I
knew there was a Luckily ours was in the basement.
But yeah, okay, so you'll need to get a pest
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control company out there and they'll get up in the attic,
they'll determine, you know, if there is a nest. They
will talk about eradicating it and remove all of the nest,
and then you can talk about the entryway and getting
that repaired.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Well, that's what I want to talk to you about.
They house is nine years old, so it has no
flashing along the facia board. Had they put flashing, that
probably would have that would have been a wise thing.
I've got would sheating? Excuse me, probably of sheating up there?
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And it doesn't part I looked at it look like
is okay, it's not in trouble. But uh, should I
invest the money and not invest spend the money? Uh
plashing put around the house or would that would probably
wouldn't do the totally. They couldn't totally close it anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
No, I think what you know, let me just kind
of put this in order to I think what I
would do. This is my opinion without seeing it. I
would first work on removal the nest, which you and
I will probably agree on that that's not a problem. Yes.
Then I would talk to a roofer and have him
really kind of take a look at the whole situation,
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because obviously that is their entry point and there should
be flashing at that point, and or is there other
areas that he's seeing that is not right there. I
don't think I can really help you until I see
exactly how it's set up, and he may just say,
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you know, no, there is maybe a little bag construction
here and we can do X Y Z, or yeah,
that should have been definitely flashed. We want to do that.
I think I would get them in and let them
inspect it after the nest is removed and things are
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under control there.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Uh huh, okay, okay, And I know there are lots
of species of these guys on a swap or whatever
they are.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, there is. And there's German hornets, and that's
kind of what it sounds like to me. That would
be getting in there.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Wonderful. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
But we'll see when we get there. I mean, we
don't know how bad it is till the past control
gets in there. And usually those do have that's the
big almost looks like a paper mache nest, and that's
probably what's in the attic.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Okay, are they we have swallows? That's sign a place
they love to nest every year, and I take clean
it off and they come back the same place year
after year. Is that going to be a problem with
these guys?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Do they memory? Usually? No, Well, it depends on the
it depends on the species. I should answer it that way, Okay,
But no, I had the hornet wass that nest was removed.
They've never been back. I found the point of entry,
which was underneath an exhaust pipe about a foot off
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the ground, so I would have had been laying on
my back to originally spot it, and I never did
see it until after the nest was removed patch that
and I've never had them, so it depends. Yeah, there's
a lot of depends in their right. And we got
to find out what kind of species it is. We
know where the entry point is. We got to find
the nest. If it's a paper machine nest, it will
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be removed. They will, they would not return, but we'll
certainly have to fill in the their entrance.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yes, okay, thank you so much. You're always there to
help us.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Thank you very good. Thank you. All right, quick break
and we'll try and get to Jim and Ken and
John as we continue. You're at home with Gary Sullivan
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Just like yes, sir's a second time. Let's get back
to the phone call get back to him.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Jim, welcome, Hi Gary, you are the master. How are you?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm doing fine? Thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Here's a tough question for you.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I don't know if you can handle this one. But
we live we live on a lake and a part
of our foundation. But it's about two to three feet
away from the lake edge. And yeah, we're starting to
get some erosion and we're getting nervous. We had some
stones a stone path along there, and some bigger bowlers
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and they're kind of falling in and we're getting nervous.
What do you recommend you're the genius about these things.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, you know, water control can only go so far, right,
I mean, I get this without the floods, you know,
I mean water is the winter all the time. I mean,
we can do everything we can to stop it, to
divert it, but if there's too much of it, we've
got a problem. So so you say, is it is
it lake Eerie or is it just a lake a pond?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
No, it's it's just a small man made lake. Okay,
it's you know, it's not it's nothing. It's exciting Emperor too,
who knows.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And we had a lot, a lot of rain this year,
so it's higher than normal. Right, Okay, So the lake
and then what do you got three f and then
the foundation.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
You say, yes, preciate, and the lake when it rains
a lot, there's an overflow.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know, it's just goes and then it will go
to a lower lake.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So my next question. That was my next question. Can
we lower that lake at all because it's easier Again,
it's it's it's all about to control the water, Jim.
So you know, putting bigger stones up the water is
eventually going to win unless we can control the water.
So the volume can be controlled by the overflow and
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maybe even controlled a little bit. Maybe it needs to
be a little bit more controlled this year. So can
we do that.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I share the lake with a neighbor. I'm sure the
neighbor would be fine with it, but I don't think
I could go that route. I wanted to know. There's
I see rebar here and there around the other areas.
I'm wondering if they pounded in some rebar and can
you put any kind of maps that they have an
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erosion matter reap are down there or what do you think?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Do you live in a municipality or a county that
has a water and soil division.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Chagrined Falls. I doubt it they have a water division yet.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean you might really check with them, to be
honest with you, I mean, there's a lot of there's
a lot of things going on there. It's not quite
as simple as you and I are sounding it. I mean,
you know, you can go in and you could create
another wall and then have you know, a underground water
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line because the water table is going to be higher.
When that lake, you know, the water starts seeping down
in and growing towards the foundation. It's really a matter
of catching that water and not making your house a
boat and sealing the water ups. Really about diverting that
water away from the from the structure to make it
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more sound.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
So you know, it's not it hasn't been happening fast.
This house is one hundred years old and that's that property.
I mean, it's probably pretty much, but it did it
did start to break down.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, so does the water does the not the height
of the water now I'm talking about the width of
the pond, has that gotten higher? You know, even like
a prevailing wind where it could create it creates some
water movements and over time it starts eroding the bank
and the lake gets you know, wider, and maybe not
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as deep in that area, but it gets wider. And
maybe that that's why I mentioned the water division. And
maybe there's stone that needs to be put in there
to not have it a road anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I think, yeah, because I don't think there's a lot
of wind, and you know, it's we're in the middle
of nowhere. It's pretty serene lake. But that that's pretty
much we should talk to the water department.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I really think so, because even water just lapping
up in a small pond will cause erosion. I mean,
you know, and if that house has been sitting there
for a one hundred years, that that lake may just
have gotten wider.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I see.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
And you don't think I should talk to like a
basement water you know company, one of those guys, even
though they're probably who knows, I don't will think crooks.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, there are some good ones. There're some good ones,
but they're going to tell you the same story. I mean,
you can call them up and have them take a
walk around. Maybe they can pinpoint something they can do.
But a good one will be looking at reducing the
water table and also filling cracks and making patches and
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things like that. But a good water proofer will be
more of a water controller also. And I think if
it were I I would check again. And we know
the problem is the lake, right the lake is getting
closer to the house. The house has been near one
hundred years I'm starting to get nervous. I'm worried that
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that lake is changing my environment. So let's look.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
At the lake put the house on Should I put
the house up on the market.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Soon, right, So let's look at the lake and let's
see if they got any ideas. They may say, well, yeah,
you know, after one hundred years, that lake is probably
four feet wider than it was, and you know, you know,
maybe let's just put some boulders in there. And I
remember the guy had quick creed. He had this problem
similar to this, and he took his he took bags
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of fast setting concer crete and put took a box
knife and cut through the plastic and set those there
and when the water lapped up, it turned into concrete
and it created, you know, a buffer. So I really
think i'd focus on the lake. And if you don't
get the answers that you're looking for, then get somebody
(20:18):
in there that does the waterproofing where you can take
a look at the you know, how we're going to
control this. Do we need drain pipes installed in the
slab on the inside of the house and also the
outside of the house, because it is totally all about
water control.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
That's very very excellent news.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You are a genius.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
As I always say, I hope that helps Jiff, Thank
you much appreciate it. All right, uh Ken and John,
we're gonna have a little conversation with Todd Harville. He
is with Rhino Shield. We're going to talk about options
in painting your house, and then we'll try and get
you on the other side of the interview as we continue.
You're at home with Gary Salivan right here five care
(21:00):
Seed Detalk station. All right, busy weekend, it is. Thanks
for joining me and if this is the year we
get a paint the house, I got an option for you.
You've probably heard different advertisements for a product called Rhino Shield.
Do you know what rhino shield is and what it
can do for you? How you can coat change the
(21:22):
color in your home, protect your home, save energy and
have it lasts longer than you know seven eight nine years.
Well with me is Todd Harville. He is with Rehino
Shield and Todd welcome again at home with Gary Salvan.
How you doing.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Great?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Gary, Thanks for having us on today.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You're quite welcome. Why don't you give us an overview
of what rhino shield is and how long you guys
been applying that to Holmes.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, Gary, we've been doing this now for over two
decades internationally. And what rhino shield is is it's a
ceramic coating that creates breatheability and longevity on homes where
you're eliminating the you know, need of painting every five
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to you know, eight years.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
When you say a ceramic coating, what what what what's
that do for me?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Ceramics, what that is is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's our filler.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And we don't use clayer chalk of course those items
you know, things break down the uh, the acrylics and
you know colorant in a in a paint, ceramics. What
it does it creates an r value uh breatheability and
it just ensures that your walls stay cooler, you know
(22:49):
when it's you know, especially hot like to day that
you know, like the we guarantee those walls will never
get above ninety.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Five degrees Wow your home then?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Correct, Yeah, you're putting a vapor barrier on your building. Yeah,
absolutely excellent value.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
As I got my duke bill that you got my attention,
because if any paint can reap you know, save energy,
I mean, we don't hear that about paint, do we,
I mean the Rhino shield. And by the way, folks,
it looks just like paint. I have it on my home.
It looks just like paint. And it's going to have
(23:28):
some energy efficiency to it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Exactly. It's not going to look like a big, old,
sick piece of vinyl on your building. It's going to
maintain the integrity of whatever we're coating. So your wood's
going to look like wood, bricks are going to.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Look like brick.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And how long does that last? You mentioned paint going
eight years or so, and that's respectable, but this outperforms it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Absolutely. We guarantee the coding to last for twenty five
years because that's what we guarantee it for. And you
know it. This eliminates the maintenance on a you know,
a normal you know, paint job and having to get
and back in front of somebody to you know, hey,
is this coding gonna last this time? We are, you know,
(24:14):
a permanent solution, and we were back up by our warranty.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Sure sure, So I'm sure this comes in any color
you would like. Probably too many colors, Todd, in my opinion,
how many colors can choose? Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, we personally have fifteen hundred colors and we can
color match anything.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So the sky's the limit. Yeah. Yeah, So when you
come to the point where you need to paint your
house and you look at Rhino Shield, obviously it's gonna
cost a little bit more than paint and it is
an investment in your house and it's gonna last twenty
five years. Can you talked to me about that? Of course,
(25:02):
we have some energy saving properties to it, We have
a good quality finish, lots of colors, and it is
an investment.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Absolutely. It's of course we were We're more expensive than
your normal you know, big box store paints.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Sure. Sure, you know we're.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Sometimes two to three times more expensive than a regular
paint job, right, But you know when you times that
up by you know, fifteen twenty twenty five years, you're
coming ahead in the long run with you know, pretty
substantial savings.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Sure, and that doesn't they even.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Mentioned that, you know, the deterioration of wood, you know rot,
you know, damage the woods that isn't properly you know protected.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Sure, well, I'll tell you one of the big things
I'm getting calls all the time is, you know, wildlife
getting in the attics because the paint wasn't maintained. And
you know, I know, you do the calking, you do
the taping, and and you spray the rhino shield on.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Correct, That's right, because what we're looking for, Gary is
the consistency of eight to ten mil sick.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
A lot of times when you're brushing and rolling, you're
pulling the paint and you're sinning and these you really
don't know what the thickness is at that point, and
we just want to make sure that we're getting the consistency.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, when I was talking about the wildlife getting in
that ex that's that's exactly where it is. And quite honestly,
insurance coverage isn't really covering it. If they say, oh,
it wasn't maintained, that paint was worn off, that minor
join on the soffet, you know it was wide open.
The raccoon just pulled the boards apart. I mean, you
(26:45):
don't think about those things, but I mean that project
getting that fixed and cleaned up, you know, it can
almost be a double digit thousands. So a good coating
like a rhino shield with the expert installation. By the way,
those guys did a great job. It's been probably six years.
I mean, it did my house in a day, and
(27:08):
I'm sure most of your projects are a day or two.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Correct, Yes, normally we start on a Monday. We should
have that house wrapped up, you know, by Friday.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, And you just mentioned about our crews. All of
our crews work for us. They're factory trained, they do
a thor z perfectly, and we just know that when
we sent them out to a job that the job
is being done correctly.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Sure, sure, well, certainly lots of benefits with the Rhino shield,
and I love the warranty and everything. This has been
a funny year. I mean it's been really hot, it's
been chilly spring, it's been a lot of rain. But
you know, getting we're getting into the best time to
(27:56):
put a coating on your home. The fall is outstanding.
But people need to book this now, don't they.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Absolutely. We are usually about forty five days out to
finish your job from the day you sayed go. We
have enough crews to accommodate that kind of a turnaround,
and right now we're just swamped where you know, as
you know, September starts to hit. People are starting to realize, oh,
(28:25):
I need to get my house.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Done for the winter.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Hits no kid, and it's just going to be a
mad dash before the end of the season ends.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I've been preaching that for the last two months. I
think it's going to be, you know, issues with roofers
and painters and concrete people. I mean, all this service
work for the outside of our home, all right. So
how can people get more information on Rhino shield And
who do they call and get the process started?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, they can just dial our number. It's eight five
five Rhinos zero five and a lady will get you
in touch with me and I'll come out and give
you a quote.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Okay, that sounds fair enough, all right, Todd, thank you
very much for joining us today. I appreciate it, all right,
take care. Todd Is he's got a great little company
with that Rhino Shielded. It's it's different than paint and
it has many additional features, from the energy savings to
(29:29):
the milliage of the paint. I mean that means a
lot too, and a great probably. I'm very satisfied with.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Your house still looks beautiful outside.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It looks pretty great, gone good, Yes it does. And
Gary doesn't climb ladders very well. Anymore either, So we'll
let the understand that. Yeah, we'll let the runner shield
people take care of that. Yes, sir, all right, let's
take a break. We got Ken and John. If you'd
like to join us, well, you better hurry as we continue.
You're at home with Gary right here. Fifty five care
(30:02):
see detalk station. All right, back here we go, twelve
forty seven at home with Gary Sullivan and uh, good
day to get a few things done around the home.
Stay cool, be careful out there, that's for sure. And
be careful with the products too. There are limitations on
the back of every label with moisture and also temperature.
Pay attention to that. All right, Ken, welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
I appreciate your time today.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yes, sir, I have.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
A about one hundred year old, maybe a little more
than a hundred year old, brick building. It's solid masonry building,
and I cannot seem to keep the walls from in
certain areas anyway from effervescence. It just keeps coming back,
popping off the paint, and then we have to go
back and smooth out walls and redoing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
All right, right, right, how long has it been doing it?
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Quite a while? Yeah, quite a year.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, so what I tell you, want to tell you
what the deal with it is, You're probably never gonna
stop it, okay, And and plus it's one hundred years old,
so what it is? It always goes back to water.
I know people kidding me all the time. Your answers
(31:24):
is water, Well it is because in that masonry wall
is lime and salts. And when there's when there was
or is an abundance of water, the process of degrading begins.
(31:47):
And I use the word bloom. I don't know if
that's the proper term or not, but that salt grows
in that lime, that white chalky looks almost like salt,
starts coming to the surface, and some of the masonry
maybe comes off, maybe it doesn't, some of the paint
(32:08):
comes off because that salt's pushing that paint off. And
once it starts, it starts and painting it should keep
the moisture off, but you know, once it cracks, that
moisture is being absorbed in the process just keeps continuo,
is what I'm kind of getting it. Ken uh so,
(32:30):
really about the one thing you can do, and a
lot of it and old buildings too. If there's been
pain on there for a lot of years. A lot
of paints back in the day didn't breathe. Today's paints,
if put on straight masonry, they breathe. They're like gortex.
They don't let water through the paint, but they allow
(32:54):
the water to exhaust through the paint, and.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
That helped my knowledge. To my knowledge, there has never
been paint. There was never paint on the brick. Okay,
there never was for as long as the building's been there.
Can I tell that there was ever paint on it?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (33:14):
But I tried sealing it, putting a masonry seiler on it,
and after two or three years it came back. So
I had it painted five years ago, and for a short,
very short period of time, I had no problems. But
(33:35):
now I'm having problems again. And you know, all that
was within five years.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Well, and it's older too. I don't know. You know,
as far as I know, the only thing you can
do is use an effluorescence cleaner acid, get it off,
and do exactly what you've been doing. But what I'm
telling you is I think it's going to keep coming back.
I don't think there's a way to stop it. I
(34:02):
don't know of a way to stop it.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Well. I even tried Rhinoshield. That's that's you painted five
years ago, and I thought, man, this ceramic coding, it'll
be a godstand. I wanted to worry about it. Most
painters only want they give me two to four years warranty,
and I had a twenty five year warranty. But them,
and I'll let go what you said in regards to
(34:26):
their crews, their cruise was absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Right, they're nice, they do a good job at all.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, but I was hoping that even that would stop it.
But it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying. I just really, you know,
outside of sighting that and hiding it, I don't know.
I don't know how you would ever correct it. I
really don't. Once it starts, and I don't know, you know,
when you get into that concrete that's older, it was
made differently. I mean, but that's that's what the issue is,
(34:58):
and that's totally the issue. It's the efflorescence. It's gonna
keep blooming. It's going to keep being a problem. Even
like I talk about dry lock, it's a water proof
it's a Portland cement based paint. The same thing will
happen after four or five years, that efflorescence will start
growing again. And if it's below brick on brick, I
(35:21):
mean there could be around the windows and that aren't
properly cocked. I mean, moisture can get in all kinds
of crazy ways, And even with this particular problem being
one hundred years old, once it starts, it's just there.
It's just going. It could be humidity. You can keep
that going. So probably not to answer you want to hear,
(35:43):
but I'm just telling you the way, as far as
I know, what you're dealing with is unfortunately normal for
one hundred year old masonry wall. John, Welcome, How we doing? Yes,
they're fine.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I got a driveway I'm trying to prepare.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I guess I should say, Okay, well.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I got the kind of alligator driveway for a black
top driveway.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And so you got the surface popping off.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I'm getting a lot of weeds and all that in
there and stuff. I'm trying to keep all the dirt
out of there. But I was just wondering if there
is anything halfway decent or good that will help build.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
In the alligator.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So I go real it when you're saying an alligator area.
You got a bunch of cracks and small patches of asphalt,
and the grass is growing up between the cracks and
the small patches of asphalt. Is that what you're describing? Okay? Well,
the only way I think you're really going to take
care of it, and I guess it depends on how
big of an area it is, is to cut that
(36:59):
area out and literally put in a patch at least
you know, two inches in thickness. So what I would
do is even get the mattox or something like that
and removing as much of that as you can, and
then when you come up with the portion that you've
taken care of, you want to square the sides up,
(37:22):
probably with a cold chisel masonry chisel, and square those
sides up and then just get a cold patch. Not
just but you know, even if you can dig down
and even bit a little bit of a gravel base
there and then put two inches at a minimum of
(37:42):
cold patch in there, it's probably the only way you're
going to you know, temporary reseal that there's probably erosion
taking place underneath and everything else. But does that sound
workable to you, John or not?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
I'm not sure. I got the funds to do all
as big of an area I would have to do.
That's what I'm trying to I'm trying to see if
there's any product out there that could help seal that area,
then I get or help fill in the area. I
guess I should say, yeah, well, and then I could
seal it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah yeah, Well, I guess the answer is that there's
not a sealer that's going to I'd be just selling
you something and you'd be wasting your money. There's nothing
that's going to the problem is the base and I'm
sure that driveway is probably over twenty years old, which
is the lifespan of asphalt, and you know, for just
(38:45):
patching it, I think that's your best thing. I mean,
even if you dumped a sealer on there, No, it's
it's not going to be the long term or even
a solution for you. I mean, you could dig it
out and throw gravel in there. You still couldn't put
a seiler. The coal patch isn't expensive. It's the labor
to have somebody, you know, scrape that up and square
(39:08):
the sides. But I think that's the only thing that
you're going to be able to do outside of using
a wheed and grass killer and just keeping the vegetation
down because that's continuing with the erosion. So maybe maybe
that's the option. You could also get some driveway patch,
which is a mastic kill all the vegetation scrape that out,
(39:30):
but it's it's not a supportive a support product. It's
a mastic that you're going to trial over it. Maybe
you know, three ace of an inch thick, so it's
going to look okay, it's going to stop the vegetation
from growing. But you just got to know in your
mind that that's a quick fix and not a long
term fix. All right, thank you much for that call.
(39:53):
I understand. I understand about budgets. Some things we can
take care of. Some things we can't. Some things we
can do ourselves. Some things we have to get a
professional service company to help do that. But asphalt driveways,
just everybody knows the lifespan on news is about twenty
twenty five years. Concrete they say fifty years. When people
(40:15):
ask me, is it better to go this way or
that way? Concrete is gonna last a little longer. But
I can guarantee you concrete is guaranteed to crack and
eventually asphalt will crack as it settles, so you know pavers,
(40:36):
and you're digging those up and realigning those. So we're
still searching. We're still working on that. We're absolutely still
working on it. All right, Danny Boy, thank you very
much for all your work today. You're busy today, weren't you, yes, sir, Yeah,
Danny Boy was busy. By the way, if you missed
our interview on the Dumont Global the Codings Remover, you
(41:00):
can pick that up on the iHeart app. Just go there,
go to podcast at Home with Gary Sullivan. Danny has
it up for you and labeled properly and you should
be able to take a listen. Lot good information there,
all right, good Lord Willing. We'll be back tomorrow morning
at nine o'clock for more At Home with Gary Sullivan.
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