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Grab a line and Jason lead us off.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Welcome, Hey Gary, thanks to take my call.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You bet I have.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I have a quick question, and I also have some
advice for anybody who has carpenter bee problems. I'll just
go ahead and start with the advice I had. My
back deck was just when I bought the house was
just horrible. I could not get rid of the carpenter bees.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And I had some old rancher tell me to make
a hornet's nest out of a.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Paper bag and hang it up.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And it was the only I had.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Those traps I had.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I was stuffing all the holes with.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Like this skill wolves so they couldn't bite through it.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I did everything, and then it took me, I don't know,
about two minutes to make a hornet's nest what looked
like a hornet's nest. I don't even think it looked
like a hornets. The carpenter bees did.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And then I didn't have this the first year I
didn't have a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Anyways, my question is I have weak.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Flushing toilets, one upstairs and one downstairs.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Okay, I cleaned the ports underneath the rim.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Good.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Can you tell me what is the best case scenario
and the worst case scenario with these? Is it just
like I might need new toilets or is there something bigger.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Bigger you might It depends, you know, I mean, toilets
over the course of time will sometimes lime up. And
that's the whole process of you know, getting that compact
mirror underneath that rim and see if you you know
those ports or those holes are open, and if they're not,
maybe you try to physically open them up. But that's,
(02:48):
you know, that's certainly one of it. The other is
just it's it's all about for a good flush, it's
all about the power of the water. So if it's
not the ports and the ports are open, maybe more
water in the tank, maybe adjusting the chain if you
(03:09):
have a flapper to allow a more gush from the
closet to the bowl. The other thing might be looking
at the other end is at the bottom of the bowl,
you have a little Depending on the year of the
toilet type, I mean, they've changed so much over the
(03:30):
last forty years, but the older ones, they'll be at
the very bottom of the toilet will be a little
round circle about the size of a quarter, and a
lot of times that is the vent for the toilet.
So you need water and you need air. Sometimes even
when you flush, you'll see a bubble come up. Sometimes
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those get lined up. Also, taking a bottle of CLR,
pouring it into toil at night and letting it sit
overnight and then flushing in the morning. I've had it
where that works fine. So there's a there's three things
you know you can kind of do. Do you have
any problems with any of the other drains in terms
(04:14):
of flushing or is it just the toilets or flushing
I should say drain just the toilet. Yeah, And when
you looked at the ports underneath, were any of them
clogged or not?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I used, like I said, with like a paper clip
and a mirror.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Also use.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
A light acid and put that in and that it didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Fix the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, So can you talk to me about that the
venting system one more time.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah. So, down at the bottom of the toilet, there's
usually is a little little hole. Not it's not the
it's not the drain or it's not the pipe, so
that the drain where the waist goes, it goes down
and then it goes up and then down into the waistline,
so it's like one hundred and eighty degree turned and
(05:07):
it there's also a little hole down at that bottom
which is kind of provides the air and will sometimes
calcify over So a mild acid you mentioned, I mentioned CLR,
a mild acid where you just put it in the bowl,
let's sit overnight. Just take the whole cork poured in,
(05:30):
let's sit overnight. If there's ain't calcification, that'll usually open
that up and may help it with that whole flushing mechanism.
The other thing is is if there's anything that could
be clogged in the drain pipe itself. Again, the waste
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is flushed through the bottom of the toilet, and then
brought up about six inch eight inch ten inch and
then does a one hundred and eighty degree turn and
then go straight down and into the waistline. Sometimes things
get interer, and then when we had kids at home,
occasionally I have to take the toilet off the seal
(06:14):
and fish out somebody's little car or a little paper
cup that somebody put in there. So things can be
you know, lodged into that drain pipe, which may have
to be fished out. So I'm just trying to, you know,
talk in terms of things.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That could just somebody come out and sake it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You can, you can. It's probably snaking. That toilet's a
little bit of a challenge again because it goes down
a short distance, then goes straight up and then takes
a one to eighty straight down. They make a toilet
snake though it's three feet long. It's got a little
rubber coating on it so you don't scratch the porcelain.
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But a lot of times you disconnect the water supply.
I just kind of, you know, drain the closet and
tilt the toilet up, and sometimes you can, you know,
if something's stuck in there, you can get it out
that way too.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I appreciate your time. I'll start off with that clar tonight,
all right, very.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Good, take care, thank you, and hopefully something like that
you bet will work. But you know, back in the day,
not so much anymore, but a plumber will take that
off or not take that off, but use a ratic acid.
I don't really recommend doing that if you don't know
what you're doing. The fumes in there can actually turn
(07:36):
stainless steel black. So we try not to get too
radical with some of these fixes. Sometimes toilets, you said,
lined up, and maybe the best bet is to go
ahead and replace the toilet. You know, you start sitting
where you got a fifty sixty year old toilet. Very
well may be the case, but there's a couple things
(07:57):
you can check. And I know some people have told
me in the past all that CLR doesn't work. Well,
I am here to tell you it does work in
some instances, and it doesn't work at all. It depends
how much you know lime deposits are there. Maybe you
want to circle back and do it a second time.
That's up to you. But I personally have had it
(08:21):
work numerous times over the course of years. All right,
we'll take a little break. We'll come back. Joe, you'll
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Speaker 1 (11:23):
And back in it. We go at home with Gary
Sullivan and talking a little home improving, getting a few
things done around the home. The one big project I
guess most of us, not most of us, but a
lot of us tackle during the summertime. There's three major
ones that I know we talk about a lot on
this shows patching concrete, ceiling decks, and paint your house.
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And I bring that up because many of us will
begin to run out of weather. Yesterday I was talking
to the folks from Rhinoshield and where I'm at, which
is in the Midwest, and we're based out of Cincinnati, Ohio.
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And.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know, our falls have been fairly nice and they keep,
you know, getting extended. And he says, well, we kind
of shut it down around uh right before Thanksgiving, which
kind of got me thinking, which is scary. This year's
been a challenge. We had a pretty cool spring, and
then we had a pretty wet late spring and summer
(12:33):
until probably the beginning of August, and somebody turned the
spict off and warmed things up, and then we had
summer and now we almost got a drought. But during
a lot of the time that we would be tackling
some of those projects, it hasn't been real conducive for
those projects. Cold, damp, rainy, hot. Right now we have
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perfect weather. It's been just absolutely glorious for the last
three or four weeks. And I know also from being
in this business my entire life, the enthusiasm for home
projects is probably at its height in May, early June,
maybe mid April to early June. Now that's not to
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say people just do home improvement projects during that time
of year. That's the heath of it. That's where everybody's
juices are flowing. And we're going to tackle the world
and we're going to fix that house up. And we
got great goals and aspirations. By the time we get
to this time of year, we have football, kids, soccer,
(13:43):
we got other things going on to enjoy the nice weather,
and a lot of those projects just get left behind,
they don't get completed. But you got a lot of
time to tackle these. I guess the only thing really
is the enthusiasm to tackle that project. And of course
(14:05):
a lot of those projects require questions to be answered
and what to use and how to do it, and
especially on decks. I see all types of decks. I
see beautiful one hundred thousand dollars decks. I see fifteen
thousand dollars decks that are in a state of disrepair.
(14:29):
And then I see a lot of decks that just
haven't been maintained. They're not as functional, and maybe kids
have left the house and they're just not maintained. And
the question is do they need to be maintained, And
of course it's yes. As pressure treated wood ages, it
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becomes damaged by the sun, just like our skin, not
so much water. We always focus on water. Rot certainly
plays a role in it sometimes, but it's the sun
that causes the wood maybe to warp, to crown the cup,
to have the grain rays, have nails back out, and
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maybe it hasn't been sealed for ten twelve years, and
maybe maybe you're just not tackling that because you don't
want to do it, and then three years later it
looks bad. So there are different types of sealers that
can be applied to a deck which might fit your
(15:40):
lifestyle more and not pushing you in one way or
the other. But most things that are used on a
deck is a semi transparent pinetrating stain. It turns its cedar,
it turns it brown, It makes it look like redwood.
You can even buy a gray stain and it helps
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preserve that wood from the UV rays of the sun
which is damaging the wood. But you know, maybe we
have areas that you know, it's just you know, even
if it's stained and it's accepted to pigment, it's not
gonna look good. It's still gonna look pretty worn. And
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an option for you there is a solid color staining.
A semi transparent's gonna give you some cases. It depends.
If it's a southwest facing it might just in its
right and full sun, it might only give you, I
don't know, two three years max. But you might consider
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if that surface is just, you know, little compromised, and
putting on a semi transparent semi clear is just not
really gonna improve it all that much and it's gonna
last another two to three years. So a solid color
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stain is just that it's more like a paint. You
have a bigger range of colors. The best part is
it does hide the green to a degree. So what
I'm saying is if that deck is worn and kind
of tired, maybe we walk away from the semi transparent
(17:28):
stain and look for more of a covering. Now, the
difference is when those that stain will fail also, but
it won't. It'll last much longer than a semi transparent.
The negative of that as if it fails by peeling
because it didn't bite onto that surface, then you got
(17:52):
a bigger problem. You got scraping and reapply in So
it's rather it's more work than just cleaning and putting
another semi transparent. But if you really follow the technique
of putting on a solid color stain, you could get
life out of that five six, seven years. It'll cover
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the grain, it won't look as old and worn. But
you got to make sure that the wood accepts that
solid color stain because it's gonna lad on a surface.
So how do you get that to happen? Well, Preparation
is always the key, and certainly when you're looking at
something to adhere, it is certainly the key. Cleaning it
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with an oxygenated bleach and taking it a step further
and using a deck brightener, which is an oxalic acid
deck brightener will turn that gray wood, give it a
little bit more vutality, if you will. But it opens
up the pores even more and it gives the ability
(18:59):
for that sielid color stained to bite on the surface.
So consider that. But I wouldn't just ignore it because
it's it's not slightly. It ain can be answered, as
with splinters and such. So if you got a question
on your home project, be a decks or concrete or
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All right, back at It we go at Home with
Gary Salvan as we continue talking about our home projects
and maintaining our home. And by the way, if you
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a lot of good information there through the course of
each and every week. That being said, our phone number
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is eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
We got Linden and then we'll get to Steve Linda. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Hello, Yes, yeah, So my problem this morning is we
spilled some synthetic motor oil onto our concrete porch and
tried removing that stain with soap and water and a brush,
and that didn't do anything. Is there anything we can
do to get this spain out?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well, you can try to absorb it if it's real fresh,
maybe with some kitty litter. I'm going to give you
several things to try, Linden. Then you can decide which
way you want to go.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
The kitty litter is a good absorbent. It's used for
that on a lot of occasions. You would sprinkle it
over the surface. You would take your foot, you would
grind it into it, and you would in its clay
based so it will wick oil out of concrete and
then you can go ahead and you know, room it
(24:03):
up and dispose of it. Now, when you say use
soap and water and scrub, not bad, not a bad
solution either. What what did you use dish soap or
what did you use?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, dish soap.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, you might even try some if you have any,
you know, just laundry soap and sprinkle that on and scrub.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Only. Would liquid laundry soap be ineffective.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You might try it. You might try it. You know,
those are home remedies. The two we just three we
just spoke of and sometimes they work and you know,
sometimes they don't. It depends, I guess, you know, was
the concrete sealed at all? How deep did it penetrate?
There's a lot of variables. There's also in the store
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there's a there's a brand of uh I guess cleaners
called crud Cutter. It's with a K so it's k
r U d k U t t e R. Crudcutter
makes an oil and grease remover for concrete, which is
pretty dark uneffective. It is a product that you pour
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onto the spot. It's liquid almost looks like like like
about the consistency of syrup, if you will. And it's
gray and white and anyway that crud cutter. You pour
it onto the spot and you walk away from it, okay,
And what will happen is that will absorb and it
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will dry to a powder. And again sweeping it up
after a couple of days is what would eliminate that oil.
And I'll give you one more. I'll give you one
more if all else fails. There is a product called
a c T and it is a concrete cleaner for
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oils and grease that they actually use in the oil fields.
It is a microbe that actually eats oil and it's
a powder. You sprinkle it on and you don't do anything.
You don't scrub, You just sprinkle it on and it
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will take one day, two days, or eight days and
it will eat the oil out of the concrete. You
can only get it online as far as I know,
and it's act Cleaners dot com. Okay, So you got
a bunch of things to try. One of those are
(26:49):
gonna works there? You go any of that?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So what happens if like the crudcutter or the ACT,
if it rains, does it affect it?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You know what, I don't know. I've used it a
couple of times. I guess it never rained, never really
thought about it. I would say no, but I don't
know the answer. I will say the ACT cleaner was
actually used in the the BP oil spill in the golf,
so probably stays active, would be my guest.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Well, I have a son who's a petroleum engineer and
works in the oil field. Maybe he'd have some of
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Well, ask him about that. Sure, yeah, and go on
their website, the ACT Cleaners dot com. It's a fascinating product,
and I think you have to buy I think a
five pound bag. I mean they got it up in
fifty pound bags. I mean it's used a lot, but
as a last resort that that guy will take care
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of it. Okay, very good, all right, have a good weekend.
Take care. Let's get to Steve. Steve, welcome, How you doing, Gary,
pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Anyways.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I have a walkout basement with it's just a ranch
with a deck coming off the first floor. So underneath
the bait where the walkout basement is I use I
have a patio underneath there. Okay, Well, anyways, with the
rain and everything coming through it, I says, I didn't
know what to do. This was years back. So what
(28:33):
I did. I removed the boards over the living area underneath,
and I put a marine plywood down and I put
like flooring up there. I was wondering what you would
think after I put the flooring up there. Then I
put rubber roof. I put that down, and then I
(28:54):
tried putting carpeting on top this and that. I wonder
what would be the best way to keep it from
you know, the water doesn't come in. But I can't
keep nothing because I have full sun. I can't keep
nothing there that will really hold up to the sun. Now.
(29:17):
I know they have those different products what's that called,
like trucks and the different the different stuff. But what
could I do outside of removing all that would.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Do?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, there's a couple things, you know. There is a
couple of things. One of them I ran into. It
was years and years ago, and be honest with you,
I can't recall the name of it. It was a
product out of Vancouver, Canada, and what it was, what
it was is, and you can maybe google by some
of the information that I recall on it. I just
(29:52):
can't remember the name of the product. I don't even
know where it sold retail where you're at, but.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
That meanwhile, I mean, I'm up Northeastern Aisle, Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
So they use it in high rise buildings with little balconies.
And what would happen is whether it was made of
wood or metal or concrete or whatever, you would still
get some water that would penetrate through that structure and
drip onto the you know, the balconies below. And they
(30:28):
devised it's gonna sound bad, but it's really kind of
good looking. It's almost like a vinyl flooring that looks
like decking, okay, which went right over that substrate. And
I can't even remember how it was applied. I don't
think it was glued on, but I don't remember. I know.
(30:51):
I'm saying that a lot, but it's a it's a
deck covering product. And when you google deck covering products,
you're also going to run into all all kinds of
other options. I mean, there's a lot people are struggling
with trying to come up with something. So we're not
always working on the deck. We're actually enjoying it. I
(31:14):
had a guest on about three weeks ago, and it
is a deck composite company called Moisture Shield, and so
I'm just learning about this product. I used to advertise
this product about fifteen years ago, and they've kind of
(31:37):
reformulated their kind of their big thing right now is
they have a decking that is cool, so if it
faces the west, you don't burn your feet on it.
But as and I spent a couple of hours with
him a couple of weeks ago, and I hit him
on the show and he was telling me in about
the last fifteen minutes of our conversation, which in frigged
(32:00):
the heck out of me. Moisture Shield has a product
called insta Deck, and it is a frame work that
goes or is attached to the top of your existing
deck and this composite decking then fastens into this framework,
(32:27):
so you're not tearing up the boards. I mean, you
could put it over concrete. I got an old stamp
concrete patio that I'm really intrigued by that Insta deck.
I'm thinking about putting it over the surface. Just haven't
learned enough about it yet. But that would be a
good option for you.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Also, Yeah, because it's a pretty large area. It's sixteen
by sixteen and then it's an eight. Then I have
an eight by sixty on both sides of that, right,
And it's all water I mean I got it waterproof,
and I guess it's because I put rubber roofing over it, right,
And I was trying to get carpet to it, here
(33:10):
to it and do this and do that, you know,
to make it more enjoyable. Right, And I just but
I'm beside myself because I'm totally I mean, I get
full sun. It's all sun all day, all day, you know,
from after eleven o'clock till eleven o'clock in the morning
till until the sun goes down. So it does get
(33:30):
beat up, you know, but it's good in it. It's waterproof.
It's good in waterproof. I just want to put something
on there to, you know, for comfort.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, that first product I was talking about, it's waterproof too.
It would probably replace the rubber roofliner in fact, I
mean that's what it was designed, okay, to look like
a deck. And also so there's definitely things out there.
I've even seen little hexagons made of maybe like sixteen
(34:02):
inches wide that kind of fit together. And they're made
of pressure treated wood where it lays on the surface,
and so that's another option. There's a there's a lot
of different things out there. I'm just throwing out a
couple that I've bumped into over the years. I can't
(34:24):
say I've used any of them, but they intrigued me.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Right well, I appreciate that. I appreciate your time, appreciate
your program.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Thank you, sir, very very much. You're quite welcome call anytime.
And I have to search out that Canadian Club again.
That does a really neat deck product. All right, now,
we're going to take a break and we come back.
We'll take your call and kind of wrap things up
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All right, back in it we go ten minutes before
the top of the hour. By the way, I found
the name of that product. It's called Dura Deck, and
Dura deck is a sheet vinyl membrane for deck's balconies
even roof decks, fully waterproof. Soul replace what he has
and it comes in plank patterns, has good performance and
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It's a sub straight you know that's got to be
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to do and figuring out exactly which direction to go.
And but you can solve that problem for sure. All right,
al welcome, Thank.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
You Gary for taking my call. Very recently you spoke
about attic encapsulation. We have an HVA system of course,
attic mounted and I believe it's efficient bridge vent sopa vents.
Yet the temperature attic will still rise into the one
hundred and thirties when the you know, the temperature is
(38:45):
you know, in the nineties. I question to you your
understanding of attic encapsulation process is the existing uh venting
the ridge and soopits is that closed off? And and
and then the attic in the sense becomes another portion
of the houses.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It is it that is exactly right, that is exactly right.
So you eliminate the ventilation and it becomes a part
of the living. It's a thermos bottle, it becomes part
of it.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
At home.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You're not heating it, you're not cooling it. But you've
got enough insulation in there to protect it. And usually
the insulation's just in different places. It's on the other
under side of the roof, it's on against the walls,
it's not on the flooring. The heat and the cooling
wheel radiate. I don't know if that's the right word,
(39:39):
but penetrate up into the attic, keeping it a conditioned area.
Used a lot in the Southeast mainly for just as
you said, they got the air handler up in the
attic and you know, so it's more efficient that way.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
There there's two types of foam. There's closed and open cells.
And the open because the advantage of lying moisture out
and that would probably be the desired material to use
on an encapsulation project.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, you know, you got me stumped there. It must
be getting a question. The answer to that, I'm trying
to think of what is I think it's actually I
think it is used as an open cell when you
do the encapsulation. If you're doing the floor, you're using
(40:30):
a closed cell. Because some people actually do float foaming
in the attic, but they'll you know, they won't do
the whole house encapsulation, just do the floor and then
that's closed cell. But it's open cell on the underside
of the roof and the walls.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Yeah, and the takeaway is that the existing bridge fence
stop but bending is closed off. So in a sense,
the the attic becomes part of the home. You had
mentioned that is terrified.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's right, because you'll get penetration of heat and cool
into that attic around can lights, just around the seams,
so it'll work there. And it is I like the
word whole house encapsulation, and because that's really what it is.
If if the if the house is insulated on the
(41:19):
walls and even in the cross spaces. Now we're talking
about whole house encapsulation. We're not talking about insulating underneath
the floor of the kitchen anymore. We're talking about, uh,
you know, insulating the ground, believe it or not, putting
vapor bearers there and then insulating there, and then insulating
(41:40):
the walls. So it's we're encapsulating that area. It's becoming
part of the enclosed area.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
And I thought I would listen the load on the
HVAC because right now I placed with their mometer upstairs,
and you know, we can get into the mid one
hundred and thirties or so up there in the in
the peak season. Yeah, you know here we are running
an air conditioning even thought maybe about building a house
around the HVAC. But I got a littally concerned about
the code. It's a gas furnaces up there right right.
(42:08):
I think I want to do is you know, create
an issue there.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, and even in the air handlers, when you get
into those, you know, super performance than ninety six percent,
it's just you know, with the water and everything, it's
taken out and it's up on an attic. I'm always
a little concerned about that too, making sure that's properly
piped away from the living quarters. And now they're talking
(42:35):
about so the eighty percent efficiencies, that's not an issue,
but they're they're thinking about outlawing those and that it's
got to be a high efficiency air handler up there.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
So you know, they're saying that the code that they're
looking the code is looking at outlining the eighty percent
and correct favoring the higher percentage efficiency for efficiency.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
But it has the other problem too, So we'll see
how that all works. Yeah, exactly, see how all that
works out. But yeah, I think where you're at al
that might be something I'd certainly look into a lot
of times too, when you start running those numbers in
the attic. Sometimes our ridge vents, sometimes our soft events
(43:21):
aren't exactly where they should be in terms of bringing
enough cooler air in. I know, the cooler air might
be ninety five, but even at that, you should be
able to have that attic. You know, with a really
good ventilation system, you should be able to keep that
attic around, you know, one ten, one point fifteen. So
my guess is you may not have enough soft events
(43:42):
to provide that thrust to get the hot air out
of the attics. But something to research and something to
look into for sure. All right, music's playing, Danny boy.
Thank you for your efforts today and the whole weekend.
It was a good weekend, a lot of good calls.
A reminder busy weekend. Yeah, it was a busy weekend.
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Welcome, Hey Gary, thanks to take my call.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You bet I have.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I have a quick question, and I also have some
advice for anybody who has carpenter bee problems. I'll just
go ahead and start with the advice I had. My
back deck was just when I bought the house was
just horrible. I could not get rid of the carpenter bees.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And I had some old rancher tell me to make
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Speaker 1 (01:31):
Paper bag and hang it up.
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And it was the only I had.
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Those traps I had.
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I was stuffing all the holes with.
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Like this skill wolves so they couldn't bite through it.
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I did everything, and then it took me, I don't know,
about two minutes to make a hornet's nest what looked
like a hornet's nest. I don't even think it looked
like a hornets. The carpenter bees did.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And then I didn't have this the first year I
didn't have a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Anyways, my question is I have weak.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Flushing toilets, one upstairs and one downstairs.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Okay, I cleaned the ports underneath the rim.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Good.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Can you tell me what is the best case scenario
and the worst case scenario with these? Is it just
like I might need new toilets or is there something bigger.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Bigger you might It depends, you know, I mean, toilets
over the course of time will sometimes lime up. And
that's the whole process of you know, getting that compact
mirror underneath that rim and see if you you know
those ports or those holes are open, and if they're not,
maybe you try to physically open them up. But that's,
(02:48):
you know, that's certainly one of it. The other is
just it's it's all about for a good flush, it's
all about the power of the water. So if it's
not the ports and the ports are open, maybe more
water in the tank, maybe adjusting the chain if you
(03:09):
have a flapper to allow a more gush from the
closet to the bowl. The other thing might be looking
at the other end is at the bottom of the bowl,
you have a little Depending on the year of the
toilet type, I mean, they've changed so much over the
(03:30):
last forty years, but the older ones, they'll be at
the very bottom of the toilet will be a little
round circle about the size of a quarter, and a
lot of times that is the vent for the toilet.
So you need water and you need air. Sometimes even
when you flush, you'll see a bubble come up. Sometimes
(03:53):
those get lined up. Also, taking a bottle of CLR,
pouring it into toil at night and letting it sit
overnight and then flushing in the morning. I've had it
where that works fine. So there's a there's three things
you know you can kind of do. Do you have
any problems with any of the other drains in terms
(04:14):
of flushing or is it just the toilets or flushing
I should say drain just the toilet. Yeah, And when
you looked at the ports underneath, were any of them
clogged or not?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I used, like I said, with like a paper clip
and a mirror.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Also use.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
A light acid and put that in and that it didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Fix the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, So can you talk to me about that the
venting system one more time.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah. So, down at the bottom of the toilet, there's
usually is a little little hole. Not it's not the
it's not the drain or it's not the pipe, so
that the drain where the waist goes, it goes down
and then it goes up and then down into the waistline,
so it's like one hundred and eighty degree turned and
(05:07):
it there's also a little hole down at that bottom
which is kind of provides the air and will sometimes
calcify over So a mild acid you mentioned, I mentioned CLR,
a mild acid where you just put it in the bowl,
let's sit overnight. Just take the whole cork poured in,
(05:30):
let's sit overnight. If there's ain't calcification, that'll usually open
that up and may help it with that whole flushing mechanism.
The other thing is is if there's anything that could
be clogged in the drain pipe itself. Again, the waste
(05:51):
is flushed through the bottom of the toilet, and then
brought up about six inch eight inch ten inch and
then does a one hundred and eighty degree turn and
then go straight down and into the waistline. Sometimes things
get interer, and then when we had kids at home,
occasionally I have to take the toilet off the seal
(06:14):
and fish out somebody's little car or a little paper
cup that somebody put in there. So things can be
you know, lodged into that drain pipe, which may have
to be fished out. So I'm just trying to, you know,
talk in terms of things.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That could just somebody come out and sake it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You can, you can. It's probably snaking. That toilet's a
little bit of a challenge again because it goes down
a short distance, then goes straight up and then takes
a one to eighty straight down. They make a toilet
snake though it's three feet long. It's got a little
rubber coating on it so you don't scratch the porcelain.
(06:57):
But a lot of times you disconnect the water supply.
I just kind of, you know, drain the closet and
tilt the toilet up, and sometimes you can, you know,
if something's stuck in there, you can get it out
that way too.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I appreciate your time. I'll start off with that clar tonight,
all right, very.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Good, take care, thank you, and hopefully something like that
you bet will work. But you know, back in the day,
not so much anymore, but a plumber will take that
off or not take that off, but use a ratic acid.
I don't really recommend doing that if you don't know
what you're doing. The fumes in there can actually turn
(07:36):
stainless steel black. So we try not to get too
radical with some of these fixes. Sometimes toilets, you said,
lined up, and maybe the best bet is to go
ahead and replace the toilet. You know, you start sitting
where you got a fifty sixty year old toilet. Very
well may be the case, but there's a couple things
(07:57):
you can check. And I know some people have told
me in the past all that CLR doesn't work. Well,
I am here to tell you it does work in
some instances, and it doesn't work at all. It depends
how much you know lime deposits are there. Maybe you
want to circle back and do it a second time.
That's up to you. But I personally have had it
(08:21):
work numerous times over the course of years. All right,
we'll take a little break. We'll come back. Joe, you'll
be up first. If you'd like to join us, do
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And back in it. We go at home with Gary
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things done around the home. The one big project I
guess most of us, not most of us, but a
lot of us tackle during the summertime. There's three major
ones that I know we talk about a lot on
this shows patching concrete, ceiling decks, and paint your house.
(11:51):
And I bring that up because many of us will
begin to run out of weather. Yesterday I was talking
to the folks from Rhinoshield and where I'm at, which
is in the Midwest, and we're based out of Cincinnati, Ohio.
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You know, our falls have been fairly nice and they keep,
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kind of got me thinking, which is scary. This year's
been a challenge. We had a pretty cool spring, and
then we had a pretty wet late spring and summer
(12:33):
until probably the beginning of August, and somebody turned the
spict off and warmed things up, and then we had
summer and now we almost got a drought. But during
a lot of the time that we would be tackling
some of those projects, it hasn't been real conducive for
those projects. Cold, damp, rainy, hot. Right now we have
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perfect weather. It's been just absolutely glorious for the last
three or four weeks. And I know also from being
in this business my entire life, the enthusiasm for home
projects is probably at its height in May, early June,
maybe mid April to early June. Now that's not to
(13:23):
say people just do home improvement projects during that time
of year. That's the heath of it. That's where everybody's
juices are flowing. And we're going to tackle the world
and we're going to fix that house up. And we
got great goals and aspirations. By the time we get
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we got other things going on to enjoy the nice weather,
and a lot of those projects just get left behind,
they don't get completed. But you got a lot of
time to tackle these. I guess the only thing really
is the enthusiasm to tackle that project. And of course
(14:05):
a lot of those projects require questions to be answered
and what to use and how to do it, and
especially on decks. I see all types of decks. I
see beautiful one hundred thousand dollars decks. I see fifteen
thousand dollars decks that are in a state of disrepair.
(14:29):
And then I see a lot of decks that just
haven't been maintained. They're not as functional, and maybe kids
have left the house and they're just not maintained. And
the question is do they need to be maintained, And
of course it's yes. As pressure treated wood ages, it
(14:52):
becomes damaged by the sun, just like our skin, not
so much water. We always focus on water. Rot certainly
plays a role in it sometimes, but it's the sun
that causes the wood maybe to warp, to crown the cup,
to have the grain rays, have nails back out, and
(15:18):
maybe it hasn't been sealed for ten twelve years, and
maybe maybe you're just not tackling that because you don't
want to do it, and then three years later it
looks bad. So there are different types of sealers that
can be applied to a deck which might fit your
(15:40):
lifestyle more and not pushing you in one way or
the other. But most things that are used on a
deck is a semi transparent pinetrating stain. It turns its cedar,
it turns it brown, It makes it look like redwood.
You can even buy a gray stain and it helps
(16:01):
preserve that wood from the UV rays of the sun
which is damaging the wood. But you know, maybe we
have areas that you know, it's just you know, even
if it's stained and it's accepted to pigment, it's not
gonna look good. It's still gonna look pretty worn. And
(16:25):
an option for you there is a solid color staining.
A semi transparent's gonna give you some cases. It depends.
If it's a southwest facing it might just in its
right and full sun, it might only give you, I
don't know, two three years max. But you might consider
(16:45):
if that surface is just, you know, little compromised, and
putting on a semi transparent semi clear is just not
really gonna improve it all that much and it's gonna
last another two to three years. So a solid color
(17:06):
stain is just that it's more like a paint. You
have a bigger range of colors. The best part is
it does hide the green to a degree. So what
I'm saying is if that deck is worn and kind
of tired, maybe we walk away from the semi transparent
(17:28):
stain and look for more of a covering. Now, the
difference is when those that stain will fail also, but
it won't. It'll last much longer than a semi transparent.
The negative of that as if it fails by peeling
because it didn't bite onto that surface, then you got
(17:52):
a bigger problem. You got scraping and reapply in So
it's rather it's more work than just cleaning and putting
another semi transparent. But if you really follow the technique
of putting on a solid color stain, you could get
life out of that five six, seven years. It'll cover
(18:14):
the grain, it won't look as old and worn. But
you got to make sure that the wood accepts that
solid color stain because it's gonna lad on a surface.
So how do you get that to happen? Well, Preparation
is always the key, and certainly when you're looking at
something to adhere, it is certainly the key. Cleaning it
(18:36):
with an oxygenated bleach and taking it a step further
and using a deck brightener, which is an oxalic acid
deck brightener will turn that gray wood, give it a
little bit more vutality, if you will. But it opens
up the pores even more and it gives the ability
(18:59):
for that sielid color stained to bite on the surface.
So consider that. But I wouldn't just ignore it because
it's it's not slightly. It ain can be answered, as
with splinters and such. So if you got a question
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All right, back at It we go at Home with
Gary Salvan as we continue talking about our home projects
and maintaining our home. And by the way, if you
missed an hour of the show, or you missed the
interview with Teresa from Wet and forget. Those are available
to you via podcast. Danny sets them up a nice
(22:41):
little format, so if you missed an hour or two,
or maybe you don't get the Saturday show, you can
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Sullivan and each hour will show the subject, will show
a lot of good information there through the course of
each and every week. That being said, our phone number
(23:02):
is eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
We got Linden and then we'll get to Steve Linda. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Hello, Yes, yeah, So my problem this morning is we
spilled some synthetic motor oil onto our concrete porch and
tried removing that stain with soap and water and a brush,
and that didn't do anything. Is there anything we can
do to get this spain out?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well, you can try to absorb it if it's real fresh,
maybe with some kitty litter. I'm going to give you
several things to try, Linden. Then you can decide which
way you want to go.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
The kitty litter is a good absorbent. It's used for
that on a lot of occasions. You would sprinkle it
over the surface. You would take your foot, you would
grind it into it, and you would in its clay
based so it will wick oil out of concrete and
then you can go ahead and you know, room it
(24:03):
up and dispose of it. Now, when you say use
soap and water and scrub, not bad, not a bad
solution either. What what did you use dish soap or
what did you use?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, dish soap.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, you might even try some if you have any,
you know, just laundry soap and sprinkle that on and scrub.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Only. Would liquid laundry soap be ineffective.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You might try it. You might try it. You know,
those are home remedies. The two we just three we
just spoke of and sometimes they work and you know,
sometimes they don't. It depends, I guess, you know, was
the concrete sealed at all? How deep did it penetrate?
There's a lot of variables. There's also in the store
(24:51):
there's a there's a brand of uh I guess cleaners
called crud Cutter. It's with a K so it's k
r U d k U t t e R. Crudcutter
makes an oil and grease remover for concrete, which is
pretty dark uneffective. It is a product that you pour
(25:11):
onto the spot. It's liquid almost looks like like like
about the consistency of syrup, if you will. And it's
gray and white and anyway that crud cutter. You pour
it onto the spot and you walk away from it, okay,
And what will happen is that will absorb and it
(25:37):
will dry to a powder. And again sweeping it up
after a couple of days is what would eliminate that oil.
And I'll give you one more. I'll give you one
more if all else fails. There is a product called
a c T and it is a concrete cleaner for
(26:05):
oils and grease that they actually use in the oil fields.
It is a microbe that actually eats oil and it's
a powder. You sprinkle it on and you don't do anything.
You don't scrub, You just sprinkle it on and it
(26:26):
will take one day, two days, or eight days and
it will eat the oil out of the concrete. You
can only get it online as far as I know,
and it's act Cleaners dot com. Okay, So you got
a bunch of things to try. One of those are
(26:49):
gonna works there? You go any of that?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So what happens if like the crudcutter or the ACT,
if it rains, does it affect it?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
You know what, I don't know. I've used it a
couple of times. I guess it never rained, never really
thought about it. I would say no, but I don't
know the answer. I will say the ACT cleaner was
actually used in the the BP oil spill in the golf,
so probably stays active, would be my guest.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Well, I have a son who's a petroleum engineer and
works in the oil field. Maybe he'd have some of
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Well, ask him about that. Sure, yeah, and go on
their website, the ACT Cleaners dot com. It's a fascinating product,
and I think you have to buy I think a
five pound bag. I mean they got it up in
fifty pound bags. I mean it's used a lot, but
as a last resort that that guy will take care
(27:53):
of it. Okay, very good, all right, have a good weekend.
Take care. Let's get to Steve. Steve, welcome, How you doing, Gary,
pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Anyways.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I have a walkout basement with it's just a ranch
with a deck coming off the first floor. So underneath
the bait where the walkout basement is I use I
have a patio underneath there. Okay, Well, anyways, with the
rain and everything coming through it, I says, I didn't
know what to do. This was years back. So what
(28:33):
I did. I removed the boards over the living area underneath,
and I put a marine plywood down and I put
like flooring up there. I was wondering what you would
think after I put the flooring up there. Then I
put rubber roof. I put that down, and then I
(28:54):
tried putting carpeting on top this and that. I wonder
what would be the best way to keep it from
you know, the water doesn't come in. But I can't
keep nothing because I have full sun. I can't keep
nothing there that will really hold up to the sun. Now.
(29:17):
I know they have those different products what's that called,
like trucks and the different the different stuff. But what
could I do outside of removing all that would.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Do?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, there's a couple things, you know. There is a
couple of things. One of them I ran into. It
was years and years ago, and be honest with you,
I can't recall the name of it. It was a
product out of Vancouver, Canada, and what it was, what
it was is, and you can maybe google by some
of the information that I recall on it. I just
(29:52):
can't remember the name of the product. I don't even
know where it sold retail where you're at, but.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
That meanwhile, I mean, I'm up Northeastern Aisle, Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
So they use it in high rise buildings with little balconies.
And what would happen is whether it was made of
wood or metal or concrete or whatever, you would still
get some water that would penetrate through that structure and
drip onto the you know, the balconies below. And they
(30:28):
devised it's gonna sound bad, but it's really kind of
good looking. It's almost like a vinyl flooring that looks
like decking, okay, which went right over that substrate. And
I can't even remember how it was applied. I don't
think it was glued on, but I don't remember. I know.
(30:51):
I'm saying that a lot, but it's a it's a
deck covering product. And when you google deck covering products,
you're also going to run into all all kinds of
other options. I mean, there's a lot people are struggling
with trying to come up with something. So we're not
always working on the deck. We're actually enjoying it. I
(31:14):
had a guest on about three weeks ago, and it
is a deck composite company called Moisture Shield, and so
I'm just learning about this product. I used to advertise
this product about fifteen years ago, and they've kind of
(31:37):
reformulated their kind of their big thing right now is
they have a decking that is cool, so if it
faces the west, you don't burn your feet on it.
But as and I spent a couple of hours with
him a couple of weeks ago, and I hit him
on the show and he was telling me in about
the last fifteen minutes of our conversation, which in frigged
(32:00):
the heck out of me. Moisture Shield has a product
called insta Deck, and it is a frame work that
goes or is attached to the top of your existing
deck and this composite decking then fastens into this framework,
(32:27):
so you're not tearing up the boards. I mean, you
could put it over concrete. I got an old stamp
concrete patio that I'm really intrigued by that Insta deck.
I'm thinking about putting it over the surface. Just haven't
learned enough about it yet. But that would be a
good option for you.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Also, Yeah, because it's a pretty large area. It's sixteen
by sixteen and then it's an eight. Then I have
an eight by sixty on both sides of that, right,
And it's all water I mean I got it waterproof,
and I guess it's because I put rubber roofing over it, right,
And I was trying to get carpet to it, here
(33:10):
to it and do this and do that, you know,
to make it more enjoyable. Right, And I just but
I'm beside myself because I'm totally I mean, I get
full sun. It's all sun all day, all day, you know,
from after eleven o'clock till eleven o'clock in the morning
till until the sun goes down. So it does get
(33:30):
beat up, you know, but it's good in it. It's waterproof.
It's good in waterproof. I just want to put something
on there to, you know, for comfort.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, that first product I was talking about, it's waterproof too.
It would probably replace the rubber roofliner in fact, I
mean that's what it was designed, okay, to look like
a deck. And also so there's definitely things out there.
I've even seen little hexagons made of maybe like sixteen
(34:02):
inches wide that kind of fit together. And they're made
of pressure treated wood where it lays on the surface,
and so that's another option. There's a there's a lot
of different things out there. I'm just throwing out a
couple that I've bumped into over the years. I can't
(34:24):
say I've used any of them, but they intrigued me.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Right well, I appreciate that. I appreciate your time, appreciate
your program.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Thank you, sir, very very much. You're quite welcome call anytime.
And I have to search out that Canadian Club again.
That does a really neat deck product. All right, now,
we're going to take a break and we come back.
We'll take your call and kind of wrap things up
for the weekend. You're at Home with Gary Sullivan.
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Speaker 1 (37:28):
All right, back in it we go ten minutes before
the top of the hour. By the way, I found
the name of that product. It's called Dura Deck, and
Dura deck is a sheet vinyl membrane for deck's balconies
even roof decks, fully waterproof. Soul replace what he has
and it comes in plank patterns, has good performance and
(37:51):
snow rain slip resistant, and talks about it's UV resistance.
It's a sub straight you know that's got to be
in good shape. So and it's also professionally installed warranty
and certified installers. There's also a couple other products just
(38:11):
not familiar with it. But so he's got some shopping
to do and figuring out exactly which direction to go.
And but you can solve that problem for sure. All right,
al welcome, Thank.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
You Gary for taking my call. Very recently you spoke
about attic encapsulation. We have an HVA system of course,
attic mounted and I believe it's efficient bridge vent sopa vents.
Yet the temperature attic will still rise into the one
hundred and thirties when the you know, the temperature is
(38:45):
you know, in the nineties. I question to you your
understanding of attic encapsulation process is the existing uh venting
the ridge and soopits is that closed off? And and
and then the attic in the sense becomes another portion
of the houses.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It is it that is exactly right, that is exactly right.
So you eliminate the ventilation and it becomes a part
of the living. It's a thermos bottle, it becomes part
of it.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
At home.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
You're not heating it, you're not cooling it. But you've
got enough insulation in there to protect it. And usually
the insulation's just in different places. It's on the other
under side of the roof, it's on against the walls,
it's not on the flooring. The heat and the cooling
wheel radiate. I don't know if that's the right word,
(39:39):
but penetrate up into the attic, keeping it a conditioned area.
Used a lot in the Southeast mainly for just as
you said, they got the air handler up in the
attic and you know, so it's more efficient that way.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
There there's two types of foam. There's closed and open cells.
And the open because the advantage of lying moisture out
and that would probably be the desired material to use
on an encapsulation project.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, you know, you got me stumped there. It must
be getting a question. The answer to that, I'm trying
to think of what is I think it's actually I
think it is used as an open cell when you
do the encapsulation. If you're doing the floor, you're using
(40:30):
a closed cell. Because some people actually do float foaming
in the attic, but they'll you know, they won't do
the whole house encapsulation, just do the floor and then
that's closed cell. But it's open cell on the underside
of the roof and the walls.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Yeah, and the takeaway is that the existing bridge fence
stop but bending is closed off. So in a sense,
the the attic becomes part of the home. You had
mentioned that is terrified.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That's right, because you'll get penetration of heat and cool
into that attic around can lights, just around the seams,
so it'll work there. And it is I like the
word whole house encapsulation, and because that's really what it is.
If if the if the house is insulated on the
(41:19):
walls and even in the cross spaces. Now we're talking
about whole house encapsulation. We're not talking about insulating underneath
the floor of the kitchen anymore. We're talking about, uh,
you know, insulating the ground, believe it or not, putting
vapor bearers there and then insulating there, and then insulating
(41:40):
the walls. So it's we're encapsulating that area. It's becoming
part of the enclosed area.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
And I thought I would listen the load on the
HVAC because right now I placed with their mometer upstairs,
and you know, we can get into the mid one
hundred and thirties or so up there in the in
the peak season. Yeah, you know here we are running
an air conditioning even thought maybe about building a house
around the HVAC. But I got a littally concerned about
the code. It's a gas furnaces up there right right.
(42:08):
I think I want to do is you know, create
an issue there.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, and even in the air handlers, when you get
into those, you know, super performance than ninety six percent,
it's just you know, with the water and everything, it's
taken out and it's up on an attic. I'm always
a little concerned about that too, making sure that's properly
piped away from the living quarters. And now they're talking
(42:35):
about so the eighty percent efficiencies, that's not an issue,
but they're they're thinking about outlawing those and that it's
got to be a high efficiency air handler up there.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
So you know, they're saying that the code that they're
looking the code is looking at outlining the eighty percent
and correct favoring the higher percentage efficiency for efficiency.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
But it has the other problem too, So we'll see
how that all works. Yeah, exactly, see how all that
works out. But yeah, I think where you're at al
that might be something I'd certainly look into a lot
of times too, when you start running those numbers in
the attic. Sometimes our ridge vents, sometimes our soft events
(43:21):
aren't exactly where they should be in terms of bringing
enough cooler air in. I know, the cooler air might
be ninety five, but even at that, you should be
able to have that attic. You know, with a really
good ventilation system, you should be able to keep that
attic around, you know, one ten, one point fifteen. So
my guess is you may not have enough soft events
(43:42):
to provide that thrust to get the hot air out
of the attics. But something to research and something to
look into for sure. All right, music's playing, Danny boy.
Thank you for your efforts today and the whole weekend.
It was a good weekend, a lot of good calls.
A reminder busy weekend. Yeah, it was a busy weekend.
(44:02):
You can pick up the podcast of each hour on
the iHeart app. It's at Home with Gary Sullivan and
good Lord Willing. We'll be back again for more at
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