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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, it's the weekend. Welcome, you're at home with Gary Salvin.
Thanks for joining me another weekend getting a few things
done around the home. Our phone number if we'd like
to talk about your home project, it's eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five. I know many people
tackling projects on the outside of their home, be it
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a summer project, be it a fall project, maybe in between.
But there's a lot going on and a lot of
preparation work can be worked on. I know where I'm at.
We've had some beautiful weather. It's been very dry, very warm,
but not bad, not bad in terms of getting some
projects done around the home. So it's not too late
(01:03):
as we look at the counters, not too late to
tackle some of those summer projects. Some of them may
be painting outdoors, maybe deck staining, ceiling, concrete. And also
looking forward where we start thinking about insulation, ventilation, chimney repair,
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chimney cleaning, you know, basic chimney maintenance. And if you've
got a question, I'd love to talk to you about
that as we, you know, work our way through the day.
So you can grab that line again, it's eight hundred
eighty two three eight two five five and also maybe
to evaluate some of the things you got going on
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in your home. Always a good idea. Just reading the
whole article this past week, all about color. That's right, color,
And you know what's the most popular color for a
front door? Black? Black is the most popular color for
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front door about fifty seven percent, it says, And I
guess that's about right. I was kind of guessing red
or black, but black seems to be the winner there.
And if you're not going to paint a front door
a garage door, du alot exterior painting, that's fine, but
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one of the things you might do. In fact, it
was just something that was done at our house by us. Well,
I should say bye, Sue was I was noticing the
front door was not that it was ratty and dirty
or anything. We knew it was painted probably five years ago.
It used to be stained fiberglass entry door, and it
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gets a southern western facing, so maintenance was always an
issue there. So we have elected to paint it and
we did that about, like I said, five six years ago.
And I had noticed a couple of weeks ago, gosh, yeah,
it's got those panels in the door. It's like really
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dusty it's like I put it on my list. Always
have an ongoing, you know, maintenance list things to do.
You probably have the same. And anyway, I came home
one day and she goes, hey, you see the front door.
It say, actually I did, and do you clean it?
And it was yeah, And geez, what a difference it makes.
I mean, there's we've been really dry and dusty in
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our location, and I'll tell you it's got a little
overhang on it, so I guess the rain doesn't really
hit it all that much, probably more sun than rain,
and just cleaning up that door really made a difference.
So just simple things to notice as you're walking around
the house always a good idea. But as we're doing
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those kinds of produce, might be put your glasses on
and look forward to maybe insulation that may be needed,
or maybe ventilation that could be improved in the attic,
make our homes more comfortable. Minor issues like changing out
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the filter if it's been a while. Again, remember I
said it's dusty out and get a lot of traffic
inside and outside. Maybe that's something that's due usually about
every ninety days. And also as we as too early
right now, at least in my location. But as we
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talk about humidity levels and homes in the summertime, we
talk about umidi levels in the winter time too, only
from a dry nature. A lot of you I know
have humidifiers which put moisture in the air for the winter.
And you know it's going to be time eventually, whether
it's two weeks or sixty days to get that fired up,
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change out that filter and get that rolling. And probably,
like I said, in my location, we're still in the
upper eighties and nineties, so we don't want to do
that yet. Put something new. Put on your list, and
be mindful that that is coming up along with chimney
inspection and cleaning. Get on a list now, I'm telling
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you everybody waits, waits that first cold snap hits and bingo,
everybody needs the chimney sweep out. Well, then you're looking
at another thirty forty days, so we don't want to wait.
Get on a list now they have it done, give
them the date, see if they're available. I put that
on your list. Also, all right, let me give you
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the phone number one more time and then we're gonna
get to the phones. We'll get things rolling. It's eight
hundred eighty two, three eight two, five five. We're talking
about your home in Tony. Lead us off. You're at
home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Good morning, Gary.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
How are you doing fine, sir? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Very good. So I have an outdoor kitchen that has
concrete floor, okay, and I have some grease drippings. You know,
you pull a steak out, you pull the ribs or
whatever it is, and they drip on the concrete and
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I want to clean it up and then seal it
before you know, the fall and stuff. We use it
most of the year because it's closed in. So I'm
just trying to get an idea on what would be
the best.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah. Yeah, is the oil and grease? Is it old?
I mean has it been there a while or is
it just fresh or kind of give me a date
on it.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, maybe a year?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Okay? So have you tried anything on there? Some thing
is I kind of go up the ladder when we're
talking about these types of projects, one of them, you know,
when it's relatively new and again I don't know how new,
but like a down liquid soap you know, does well.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
The concrete is about five years old, okay, and the
drippings on the the drippings you know, maybe a year
or two old.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, okay, okay. Well one of the things I'll just
give you the one go to thing that I've always
found very very effective. You can go to any hardware
store really and get degreasers. You can get oil and
greaserymovers for driveways and things. Those all work, and they
work fairly well. There is a product that you can
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get just off somebody's website. And this particular product can
even be used on like composite decking creed for oil
stains from meat and different things along that line. It's
called a c T and Act Cleaners is actually used
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in the oil fields for cleaning pumps and things like that.
I have found it never to fail. It is a
powder and it's a microbe that actually eats oil. So
you sprinkle this powder on it and the powder disappears
with the oil. It really is that simple. It might
take a day or two, it might take a week,
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but that's it's a little more expensive than some of
the other stuff you get, but I know it's very effective.
And like I said in the if you want to
just grab something and go, I would just go to
the hardware store and get something like the crug cutter
oil and grease remover. That's also pretty effective a lot.
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I say pretty effective because sometimes there's real deep stains,
maybe not oil stains for meat, but like tar from
a shingle or something. Those can be a little bit
more challenging.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, So that that act, that's basically the same stuff.
If you were to go somewhere to change your oil
and then you got drippings in your driveway because they
didn't tighten the oil, and you go back to them
and they would give you a little pouch. If it's
basically the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I don't know what they give you. I've never had
that problem. I just want to make.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Sure it's a little powder. It comes in a little
pouch and it's a little powder, and they tell you
to just spray it, spread.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It, okay, and just leave it there.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So I'm guessing it's probably the same.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it sounds like it is. I again, it sounds
like it is. I mean, that's the at least the
instructions on use are the same.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That act was actually used in the BP oil spill
in the golf you in refineries and all that, So
it's you know, it's it's it's it's good stuff. I mean,
it's powerful. Whether they use that same thing, I mean,
that's that'd be funny. It kind of sounds like the
use is the same, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And how about the seal it. It's so, I have
nine hundred square feet of concrete, Okay, I don't want
to seal it. But it's right off the pool and
right off the entrance of the house, so I don't
want it to be slick.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, Okay, So yeah, yeah, So the ceiling concrete usually
won't be slick unless you're putting on achene. In other words,
if it has a satney look or it's a high
gloss look, that will make it slippery. There are also
seilers that can be glossy, and one of the brand
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names is track Safe. It seals concrete, but it's also
you know, shiny, like if you had stamp concrete or
exposed aggregat, and you'd want it shiny. But if you
just want to protect that concrete and seal it, the
secret is is you want to get what they call
a breathable sealer, and it's a slock sane based seiler.
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When you put it on, it penetrates the concrete. It
fills the capitillaries in the concrete, and when that drives,
which doesn't take long, you can't even tell anything's on there.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, it's more the look looking for instead of machine.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know, we're looking for more of the So again
to give you a website if you want to take
a look at it. It's called Masonry Defender and Mason Defense.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
From you before that for brick.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, yep, yeah, well they're not the same product, but
same company. You know. One of their claims the famous
they have seilers for project specific categories. So the brick sealer,
you know, it has I think the brickseialer. Does that
have a little bit of sheene to it or no? No, no,
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because they got them both ways on that. So the
very first one on their website, Tony, is driveway and
sidewalk seiler, and that's the one you want. It's a
breathable sealer. You put it on, you can't even tell
it's on.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Awesome, Very good, all right, thank you, sir, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You're quite welcome, thanks Tony. All right, Rachel and Sarah,
sit tight, we're gonna take a break. We'll come back
and get your questions. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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in and we go at home with Gary Salvan. Twenty
three minutes after the top, they are talking about your
home in projects or issues you may have. It's eight
hundred eighty two three eight two five five Rachel welcome.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Hello.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I have a problem.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, hello, y I can.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I have a problem that I've never heard you discussed
before that I have. It smells like there's a dead
animal in my living room. And I've lived in my
house for thirty years and I've never had anything like this,
And I don't how to solve it. I mean, is
there like a dead animal detector company? Or how do
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you find out?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
What? How long has it been going on?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Two weeks now?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Probably not a dead animal.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
It smells like a dead animal.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Usually in about seven days that's resolved itself. So you
smell in your living room? What's underneath your living room?
Is there a cross space?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
There is a there is a cross space. Well, no,
it's a there's the basements directly under it, okay, anywhere
I don't smell it. In the basement, I don't. I
did open the cross space, I smell it there. I
don't smell it. A room, it's just in the front living.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Room, okay. And is this a two story house or
a one story house or one story one story? You know,
I mean, I guess it could be. It could be,
you know, inside the wall, you could call I guess.
You know, if it smells like a dead animal, you
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might call, you know, one of these you know, critter
gutter places and see if they can get up in
the attic too. Sometimes those smells, they they that smell travels,
you know what I'm saying. It's sometimes not right there.
Can you tell if there's a point along that wall
where it's really much stronger than other points along that.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Wall, I can't relate and tell.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But it's it's like I said, it's not in any
other room. And the kitchen is attached to that, and
then a hallway. I don't know it in there. And
when I turn the air conditioner on, it does get better,
But when I turn the air conditioner off, then it
comes right back.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah. Well, if you're you know, I mean, there's nobody
that's specializing in that, right, But if you feel that
there could be a dead animal, that would be I
guess the best place to call and see if there's
you know, other issues too. For instance, you know animals
that get into homes, and this is a time of
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year where a lot of animals get into homes. I
know several people battling that right now. They're alive. But
if you feel like you've got a dead animal in
there and it got into the walls, usually as they decay,
it's about a seven to day, seven to ten day process,
and if you're out two weeks, my guess is it
would be fading away or gone by now.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
So you think maybe something's in the attic that's smelling
like that.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I'm just guessing. I don't know. You know, I've had
odors in my homes. Literally, I tell people they think
I'm nuts. But sometimes you just got to get on
your knees and really try to pinpoint it the best
you can. And then if you you know, feel that
you know it strongly is a dead animal, then you know,
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get somebody out there that can possibly get that out
of there. But again, a dead end animal usually has
a you know the smell about seven to ten years,
but it's a good place to start. I don't know
if that's going to give your exact answer, but it
is also a good idea this time of year to
have you know that attic. Check make sure there's nothing
going on up there. Check any exterior to make sure
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you know the exterior hasn't been breached. Hope that helps.
We'll continue with your call, Sarah, you'll be up first.
You're at home with Gary sullivantor.
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Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, I say it's time to get back to work.
What do you say? We're talking about your home projects.
You may have maintenance you may need to do. It's
at home with Gary Sullivan and our phone number if
you've got a question to ask is eight hundred eighty
two three eight two five five and Sarah welcome.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Why thank you. This is a brand new flagstone walkway
that we put down and those leveling stand between the gaps.
Which isn't staying between the gaps? Is there something else
we could put there to keep these one to one
and a half inch gaps filled up when we walk
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on it, it doesn't disperse.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Well. What type of sand did you use?
Speaker 7 (23:08):
It was called leveling sand, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Did so. There's a type of sand that you can
use on pavers and flagstones where you sweep it in
and then you hose it down with water and the
sand hardens. Now it doesn't harden like concrete. But the
purpose of that is is to keep ants from drilling
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down into it, keep weeds from growing up through it,
keep people from tracking the sand into the house. And
that's the type of sand you really want to use.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, so yeah, in most all hardware stores or big
box stores have it. A lot of times it'll just
call it paver sand. And you know it's a polymeric
sand as well. It is, so it's got something in
the sand. You put it in, just hose it down,
not hard, but just missed water on it, and it
stiffens up.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Okay right away, Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It was as long as you know, soon the water dries,
it'll become stiff.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yes, Okay, do I have to take the other sand
out or I think.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You're going to have to get at least a bunch
of it out.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Okay, how deep should I put this polymeric sand?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well? How how deep is the is the gap? I
mean i'd fill those gaps up. And if you're going
to take some of the sand out, I'd take half
of it out. Maybe i'd get it in there at
least you know, a half inch to an inch deep.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Okay, all right, I can do that, all right. And
it's just called polymeric sand. Is there any name brand?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Any?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
No? Just going and ask for polomeric sand or pavr sand,
But polomeric sand is what's known by and you know,
explain how you're going to use it. They'll know what
you're talking about.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
And they being who.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
The people in the store.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Okay, eddie store like a box store.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, box store?
Speaker 8 (25:07):
Have it?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
All right? Wow, you've been very helpful and this is
the day to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
There you go have at it. Thank you. All right,
it's eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five
talking about your home and Harold welcome.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Hey, good morning, Gary. It's a great morning. Big roll
Todd dick Tree yesterday against Wisconsin. We're all happy down.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Here that that was a big win. Yes, sir, how
are you doing doing fine? Sonny and hot?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I drove. I drove from Birmingham to Indianapolis this week,
and man, you get up in the Kentucky you guys
are dry.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh we're dry as a bone. It's unbelievable. Where we're at.
It's not quite as dry as it is down there.
But I'm telling you what it's it's dry. I think
I was talking to Ron the other day and it's
as dry as it's been since nineteen eighty eight, So
it's it's pretty bone dry. Well.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
We got a quarter of an inch of rain while
I was gone, and then Friday night we got three inches.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Out of the hurricane.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yes, sir, yesterday we got about another inch. Sore. We're
in good shape.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You're in good shape. We missed all of it.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yes, sir. I got two questions, and one you can
help me with, and the second one you don't want
to help me with. The first one is I've got
a chisel. I had it about twenty five years. I
got a little nick in it. How do I sharpen that?
I've got a grinding stone?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, and a vice and files.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
What's the best way to get that nick? Out of that.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
How deep is it? I mean, you got grinding wheel.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I've got a grinding wheel. It's probably grey, a sixteenth
of an inch, it's just a small niche.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, you might try like a mill file. Okay,
at least try that first. If that's not going to
get it done, I'd probably just if you got a
you know, bench grinder or something like that, you know,
just carefully, just try to you know, yeah, you know,
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grind it out that way.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I got a grinding wheel that was my father in
laws and it's probably from the sixties and that thing
still operates fantastic.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that'll do it. I know I
sharpened a lot of things right off the grinding wheels,
that's for sure. But at a sixteenth a mill file
may get some of that out and give that try first.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
All right, Second question, I don't think you want to
help me with. I was going to stain the deck
at my new lake house. Okay, took the wife, took
my wife with me. She picked out the color Memorial
Day weekend. I started painting, and she came out and said,
I don't like the color. So I'm two hundred and
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thirty one dollars in the paint and she's already selected
another color and this it's this abbit deck correct.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Okay, it's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
It was I had a.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Great Yeah, I'm I'm I'm looking forward to trying it
because this would about seven eight years old, got a
lot of crack, but I've got It's she the first
picked The first one she picked out was gray. Now
she's gone to a beige and I've actually gone a
couple of boards. I think I'm gonna be able to
get that second coat, be able to use the gray
paint and get that sack total beige on there.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
So yeah, So that's just.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
So you know, did you did you want to call
her and get involved in that?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No, sir, No, sir, But but no, I'll give you advice.
So far, you're doing a really good job.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
With the wife or the paint both both.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
You agreed with her and you went and you're gonna
get the beige and you're gonna try it. So this
is a solid color sting correct, Yes, sir?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Well, the fact that debt correct totally solid and you
know it fills in quarter of an inch and I'm
I'm really looking forward to, uh trying that.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, yeah, uh yeah, you can go right over the
surface on that. The only the deck correct the only problem,
and there's everybody makes one, okay, it's there are things
that are deck restoration. They're called all different things. The
biggest challenge with that particular product is to get it
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to bite onto the substrate. It has it's not issues,
but it has tendencies, not the drill into the wood
like a oil penetrating finish wood. So you know, really
getting it as clean as you can, and you know,
if that first coat's on there, that's good. Just double check, yeah,
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double check, double check, and read on there about coats.
Make sure it doesn't say, you know, this is a
one code process because it's a little bit different than
a paint, a little bit different than a solid color stain.
I feel like you're good to go, but let's just
make sure the manufacturer agrees.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
With us that correct is two cuts.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Okay, all right, well then you'll be good.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yes, seventy five square feet to a gallon. Yep, so
and I've got five hundred and eighty two square.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Feet super well, you'll have something to do now, Harold.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
And two hundred and forty one dollars of paint that
I got to find a home for.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, well you can egg I know the veistitudes
of lace.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Maybe maybe I'll send it down to Alabama and that
can just put that in the NIL collective instead of
paying the kid that's giving five gallons of paint someday.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Son, you're gonna need this.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
All right, brother, have a great day and hey, roll time.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
All right, Harold, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. You know,
that's a good point when you're choosing the paints. I
know it can be tough. I know for interior paints
and exterior paints, they have those little swatches, they have
little cans of paint, maybe pints. I've got burned by
that one time, actually two times, and I'm not I
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don't mean burned by. I guess I got burned one time,
and then I got smart the second time and actually
used them and said, ah, that's too light. So when
you put them on, you know, you can look at
all the chips you want and all the beautiful pictures
on the web and things like that and go, oh, yeah,
that's what I want. But sometimes when you put it on, it'say, yeah, no,
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that's that's not really it that's fine when you're dealing
with paint, but when you get deal with stains, and
I'll not necessarily heralds, but on like a semi transparent stain. Boy,
I'll tell you what the grain, the texture, the type
of wood. It really is difficult to match up with.
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You know. Sometimes you just got to see it on
that covering, same thing, you got to see it. The
problem is that they haven't got the samples into that yet.
But maybe we get one gallon and we try and
make sure we like the paint. I don't know. I'm
trying to learn from the lesson that Harold just got taught.
(32:10):
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All right back at it we go, and we are
about twelve minutes from the top of the hour and Wade, welcome, Hey,
how are you doing doing good? Thank you?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Hey. I was calling in response to the lady that
had to smell in her living room. Yes, we had
a similar incident, and we had a fireplace and I
had happened to have an inspection camera and I took
it and looked over the back and there was a
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duck that had gotten from the top of the chimney,
had fallen down and had died, and it smelled awful.
And that's what happened to us. I don't know if
the lady had a fireplace like that or.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I mean, that's what we said, so trying to help
her out, and that's great. How did you find that
it's probably in the chimney? I know you had an
inspection camera, but did your nose draw you to the
chimney area or how did you decide to take a
look down the chimney.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Well, we actually not using that area too much and
had a board over the fireplace, and but you could
smell it. We took the board away and it was
just awful, so we knew something was in there, and
we had the camera stuck it down in and you
could see feathers and we ended up, you know, getting
(36:36):
it out. But it actually was a duck. Yeah, I
had the whole house mountain.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah yeah, So hers was just in that one room.
And what I was trying to encourage her to do
was to pinpoint the location. And certainly your tip is valuable.
If she's listening and she has a fireplace, she can
check there. I was visualizing the problem would be animals
that got into the attic, which is also very common
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this time of year, and had fallen down into the
wall and died, and maybe that was it. And my
advice to her was get your sniffer out or get
somebody in there to start inspecting, because like you, you
pulled that board away and went, whoa, there's something in
this chimney. She wasn't even to that point. She just
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said it's in the family room along that wall. So
I was struggling on who to tell her to, you know,
come help her find out who it was. Maybe it
was a critter company, but yeah, you know, and how
you know, those smells don't last forever. Again, it's usually
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about seven to ten days. Not to say that's okay,
but you know, better start sniffing now to find it.
I think it was bad enough.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
We went to looking quick.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, there you go. Well, thanks for the tip, Wright,
I appreciate it all right, and let's go to ed Edwin. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Hi Gary, I'll get right to the chase.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Hi, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I can hello?
Speaker 8 (38:17):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I got a water heater leaked.
Speaker 8 (38:22):
He was coming out of the TP valve, and so
I thought maybe well, even though the water heater was
only a few years old, we just bought the house
last year, I thought i'd replace it, so I did.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Well.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Then I saw it leaking again, and this time I
put my pressure gauge on there, and I saw that
it was reading up to you know, could I have
the one with the red needle indicator where it would
stay after you take a pressure reading, And it got
up to one hundred and forty five, So that with
the help of my wife, I started trying to adjust
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the water pressure at the regulator, which is original to
the house, over twenty two years old, and I couldn't
get a stable reading.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
So I replaced.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
It with a new one, an upgraded one, but thy type,
and it's still happening. But I do have an expansion
tank on there and it does have air in it,
and I believe that you're both pardon me, is.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
It the correct amount of air?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well?
Speaker 8 (39:28):
I believe you's both to match it with the pressure
coming in. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But I think the pressure coming in really should be measured,
you know, to get your whole house water pressure should
be measured from an outdoor faucet and not right at
your you know, right at your meter.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
Well, no, I'm measuring it right at the water heater.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah. Well is that okay? You know again the correct measurements.
And you're gonna ask me why, and I'm not gonna
be able to answer it. Usually when you use those meters,
it's an outdoor faucet. That is the standard way of
measuring it to see exactly what your water pressure is.
When you were telling me the problem, I was really
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focusing on the expansion tank quite honestly, and high water pressure.
So you know you got copper pipe in your house, Yes.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
I do, And I already had the water pressure check
bied in municipal in Monroe. Can he sent me a
graph as to what the temperature or pressure difference is
And it's only been a difference of two point three
psi with the high b and at ninety and I
think the low at eighty eight point something. I forgot
what that was.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Well, that's high because copper pipe. Usually usually your ceiling
for the copper pipe will be eighty. So it's higher
than normal. So I'm back to that it's coming in. Yeah,
well again we're kind of chasing ourselves. If you can
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get a pressure indicating tool, put it on an outside
foss I'd love to know what it is there. If
it's eighty eight there, okay, we got to get that
down below eighty. That's imperative. And even if we can
get it to seventy, that would be even better. But
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usually that ceiling is eighty for copper pipe.
Speaker 8 (41:38):
All right, But let me explain something. After I replaced
it without the water heater heating, I got you know,
I left it at the factory setting a new regulator
which is at fifty, and it was still going above board,
but the city pressure company in it was no more
than ninety before the regulator regulator supposedly is supposed to
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regulate that to whatever the setting is.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Is that correct? That's correct?
Speaker 8 (42:07):
So I'm thinking maybe I got a two gallon expansion
tank on a forty gallon water heater. Should I just
check the and I know there's no breach in the
diaphragm because there's air that comes out. It's to where
the opening of the water is that top and the
air valve is on the bottom. So I'm not getting
any water coming out when I hit the.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Core to that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Should I?
Speaker 8 (42:34):
And I do have a valve between the water coming
in and the tank or the expansion tank, so I
could shut it off and unscrew it and check the
pressure again.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:44):
Should I get a bigger than normal expansion tank, maybe
go from two to four or just think?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
You know, there is a sizing chart which I don't
have in the top of my head where you can
find that out. But I think what you're talking about
sounds okay to me. It sounds in the code, you know,
for that size of gallon. But again, those types of
problems you're heaven are usually related to that tank or
to the water pressure, So we're on the right track.
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What exactly it is, I don't know if I'm well,
I know, I'm not answering it. But if you've got
air and that bladder's good and it's doing its job,
I think the sizing of that is.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
Fine, Okay, So I should just check maybe to make
sure I got the same the air pressure as well.
Shouldn't it be like about like I said before in
the beginning, one to one if it's fifty coming in, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, and you know, to summarize you because we're gonna
run out of time, go and see if we can
get it, you know, one to one and then again
I keep emphasizing it, but I think it's very true.
We're assuming that the pressure reducing valve is bringing it
down to fifty. We keep making that assumption. I would
really get that pressure checked from the outdoor faucet, and
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we got to fifty the one to one setting on
the tank, and then let's see what that outdoor faucet's
telling you. All right, we'll continue with your calls. You're
at home with Gary Sullivan.
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