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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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and now let's get to Mark Mark. Welcome, Hey Gary,
can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, sir Garry got a question for you.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Bought a home and I had hardwood floors underneath the
LTV and I pulled up the LTV so less the
sticky residue that I just cannot get off any recommendations.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So a couple questions. Are you going to refinish the
wood floors? Is that what you're going to do? Or
what are you what are you going to do after
we get this cleaned up.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm either gonna finish the wood floors or put LTV
back down.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So okay, well, it's going to depend on how aggressive
you want to get. So describe this adhesive. It's probably
the newer age, maybe like a bage adhesive, where it's
so it's like you.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Can't even see it. It's like the so the floor.
When I walk on the floor, the hardwood floor, it's sticky.
So the hall of the hardwood floor is sticky. So
I'm just trying to unstick the hardwood floor.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I see. Wow, that's kind of interesting. Have you tried
just so it's over the entire floor or is it
just in certain areas.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's over the entire floor. So evidently it's from that LTV.
The whole thing was sticky. I tried loosening up with
Gooby Gone, and I tried oil you know some WT
forty one.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, be careful on that too, you know, especially on
if it's gonna be a hardwood floor. Have you tried
straight soap and water.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I think I would. There's a couple of things I would.
I'd kind of stay away from harsh u solvents. You know,
I'm thinking that's a water base adhesive, and really get
you're gonna want to be a little careful with that too,
because you know, you've got a hardwood floor there, so
we don't want to be putting you know, a lot
(03:30):
of really hot water on there. But you know, I
think i'd try and scrubb with some hot water and
see if that loosens it up a little bit. Another thing,
I was just gonna say, a heat gun maybe, okay,
with a plastic you know, taping knife or something, and
(03:53):
see if we can loosen some of it up with that.
It's probably it's not very thick, right.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No, it's not very thick.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, No, yeah, you were saying to somebody somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Else They mentioned using like a salt deturgent, like a
harm and hammer with a little oxy cleaning it and
do it real kind of light and then just kind
of do that. I don't know if that's idea.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I would try that. I mean, some of these newer
adhesives they're they're definitely water soluble. Some of them are
water soluble, so with it like a like a dawn
or maybe with like a laundry soap in a in
a pale water and a scrub brush and just see
(04:37):
if we can start softening with that. Now, having said that,
you know, when you come over, the real question is
do you think you have to remove that?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
If I do the LTV, I don't I know.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
But if I do this.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
The hardwood, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Just kind of fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
On which way I'm going to go right right, So
that's that's kind of the one the things. And you
know the also when you're if you're doing the hardwood,
it is probably gonna do you think it's I must
make an assumption that it'd probably have to be refinished anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, yeah, probably Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Then your floor sander would take care of that. You're
going to go through different.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Parts of that. Okay, yep, okay, you answer my question?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
All right, all right, very good.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I enjoy your show.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Thank you, thank you, you bet you take care of
you like a boxing match. There for a second, we're
trying to figure out there's so many ways to go
on that really depends what you're going to do at
the end. I guess if you want the hardwood floor,
let's just go refinish the hardwood floor. All right, it's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. You
can grab a line and we've got don Don welcome.
(05:54):
Hey Don, I'm saying plenty don don Don, we'll go
to Jack Jack welcome.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yes, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Doing fine? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
My question is I had just things in my railing.
I just put up with on red cedar, and I
wanted to know whether I should let it weather out
before I put a clear coat on it, or should
I just do it right away before it went to come?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So where's this set?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Did you say it's outdoor railing?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, is it's cedar?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's red cedar. Yeah, the post red sare and the
rest of threads here.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, you can put the coating on here now if
you want to protect its kind of natural color. If
you wanted to age out to a gray, you can
just let it be.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I actually did stain it. I stayed with gunstock with
a color from minwax, so I let it dry out
a little bit because it is oil based.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, if you've already stained it, I think I probably
would protect it, okay, and I would use either a
I would use it marine your thane or a spa
your thinge.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, the spell will fire, Yeah, I remember that. Yes,
that's what they're recommending.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, otherwise that sun which isn't going to do too
much damage to it, but it's been a little bit
now compromised with that stain, and to really hold that
color that stain, it's going to require a protectant that'll
have some ability to block the ultraviolet rays of the sun.
Otherwise it'll bleach that out real fairly quickly. So spar
(07:43):
or marine your thane has you know, that's what you
want to use. You don't want to use a poly
your thane or you'll be redoing this really quick.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, no, no, I understand that. Yeah, I just want
to it's not in the sun mist wondering through the
winter time it might be okay, and then springtime could
gets pretty much in the shade for the most part.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's good. That's good. But yeah, I mean, you know,
if if you wanted to just let it weather out,
you can, But you know, i'd probably look pretty cool
dressed up like that.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Just through the winter pretty much like next spring. I
give a chance to weather a little bit. I don't
think we've seen too much with the weather coming in,
the snow in the less hours of the day, with sun.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well that's true. I mean, but if you've got it stained,
I'd just go ahead and finish the project now, really okay,
I mean you can get by either way. It's kind
of your call. But you got it stayed looking really
nice right now, Why even take the chance of having,
you know, weathering take place. I'd go ahead and get
(08:47):
some spar your thinge on there and two coats advisable.
One code be enough to get you to spring and
then do a second coat there if you want. Yeah,
all right, all right, you bet you alright. It's eight
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Speaker 10 (12:34):
Welcome morning Gary. A few months ago, you mentioned a
product for cleaning like wood like cabinets and doors. We've
got a house built in the eighties and it was
it's the stock doors from that but they're just kind
of dirty. Again, there's a product you mentioned they clean those.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, So are these are these painted or are they stained?
Speaker 11 (13:01):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (13:04):
Well, they're they're staying.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, all right, that's what I want to know. So
the product was probably called Millsek. Does that sound familiar.
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Yes, yes it does. I was just telling my wife
I thought it started with an M, but I couldn't
remember the name.
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Yeah, So what mill Sick is is it's really as
a it's a product. It's well over one hundred years old.
But what it does is it removes old wax. And
so it removes wax and it cleans so a lot
of the soil in our home or the soiling of
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surface has a little bit of a grease base just
because we're cooking in the house and so around handles
you get that black gummy gunk. It'll take that up.
That's a combination of hand oils and wax. And then
it does not contain any silicones, does not contain any wax,
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and it really rejuvenates the wood. We actually we were
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And again, you could pick up that podcast if you
wanted to and listen to it. But that'd be a
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Speaker 10 (14:30):
And you say it's mill Sick, Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Is m I L S E K dot com.
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Perfect? Okay, that's all I needed. Thank you very much, Gary,
appreciate it.
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all right, Eric Welcome. Hey.
Speaker 11 (15:04):
I've got a deck project that I'm going to be
working on as far as removing and installing a new deck,
and I'm going to have it professionally done. I don't
want to say money is no object, but I'm willing
to put money into this for a twenty five thirty year,
twenty to thirty year deck, if that's possible. I'm seeing
(15:24):
tens to night is kind of hot as a surface subject.
I'm seeing now they've got metal framing underneath. I also
know they now have tape that goes on the two
by eights and two by tens to help those Like,
if you were building your deck and you were willing
to put money at it for a minimal maintenance type product,
(15:45):
what's your suggestion.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well, do you have a deck now or you building
this from ground up?
Speaker 11 (15:54):
We are removing a deck and then we're going to
and it's already been restored once we're removing the deck,
and we're doing a small home edition and we're changing
the layout and so we're planning on getting the total
deck now, okay, and starting from basically blank blank.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, because I always kind of caution people, you know,
if you're gonna spend a lot of money for the
deck boards and stuff, let's make sure that foundation to
it is in good shape. But it sounds like that's
not a play. So you're really asking, should I go
with this steel framing base or should I go with
the wood base? You know, a good pressure treated wood base,
(16:35):
properly installed deck in the last you're probably thirty forty years,
so you know, it's a pretty good jump to go
to the metal base. So I'd probably go with a
wood you know, wood choice, just like we always have
as far as the tape. The tape is used a
(16:55):
lot when you're replacing just the deck boards over an
old frame to make sure that water doesn't get into
holes where the old fasteners were. Okay, So it really
comes down to the type of material you want on
the deck. So you know, there's you know, I guess
the big three pressure treated wood, kiln, dried pressure treated wood,
(17:20):
and then a plethora of different types of composites and
cap composites and on and on and on. So I
guess right now, one of the ones I really like
is one called Moisture Shield, and it's kind of out
of the reach of the big three. The big three
(17:41):
would be probably Treks and timber Tech, and then I
don't know who the third one is about all decorators,
But I kind of like the moisture shield right now
because they've got one, got one with a fifty year warranty.
(18:03):
They also have one that disperses the heat if it's
in a real sunny location. You can build some of
these decks with caps on it or a composite where
you know, I mean, they're so hot you can't walk
on them. So I kind of like that for that
particular reason. And then if I had the next step down,
(18:28):
if you wanted to go with the with the pressure
treated wood, they're gonna require maintenance. I mean, they're they're
gonna require maintenance. The kiln dride right away. You'll be
able to stain it, so that'll be nice. You want
to have to wait for the sun to dry it
out and the possibility of some warp beage you're splintering.
(18:49):
It's kiln dried. So you build it and you stain
it and you're and you're done. And again it depends
on the location. If it's right out in front of
guys and everybody, and that soun's beating on that thing
and you're in a hot location, you're probably gonna stay
that every three years or so. And then the other
one is just a straight uh temper the regular person
(19:13):
treated would I'll tell you what. If you got some
follow up questions, Danny'll put you on hold, we'll discuss
on the other side of the break because we continue.
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I ran out of time. I hope I gave you
enough information to search. That one was Moisture Shield dot com.
Check that out again. If it's a real sunny location,
that's the way I'd go. And if you want a
cap composite that looks like a Brazilian hardwood, you know,
take a look at some of the tracks and decorators
(22:37):
and that type of product. But lots of good choices
out there for decking right now, no question about that.
The biggest mistake I see is when people keep the
structure of the deck, pull off the boards and then
you need that tape at the top of the choice,
which is true. But you put a thirty thirty year
(22:59):
fifty year warranty decking boards on top of a structure
that's already twenty years and should get you about thirty
That's not what you want to do. All right, Let's
go back to the phones. If you'd like to join us,
do so and don welcome.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Hi Gary, How are you today?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Doing fine? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Good?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Great?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Great. I have a couple of questions for you.
Speaker 12 (23:22):
One, I'm thinking about putting dice coating on the.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Front stoop of my house.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I've done a little research, but I thought I would
check with you which one would be best to the area.
You know, obviously it's outside. I don't want anything that's slippering.
What would you suggest.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Right off the cuff, I would probably say the roller rock. However,
they do have some really decorative ones. If you want
to go like a look of Torazo, they have that
look and they have a clear seiler that goes over
it called track Safe, which is a slippers yeah, which
(24:10):
is a slip resistent seiler. So really you could use
any of them. Quite honestly, I mean no, I'll hold
up real well, the roller rock you're still going to
put a sealer over it, and you probably still should
put the track safe over it. But the roller rock
by itself is relatively slip resistent.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Okay, Okay, great, I appreciate that. One other question I
have is I'm considering having the exterior walls of my
place it's played with foam frozen con. What are your
feelings on that?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well, I'm not sure I have a con to be
honest with you, because if you have exterior walls without insulation,
I mean, the price energy right now is killing people.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
And right well there they did you know one of
those heat machines that they used to look through the walls.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, thermal imaging.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Inflation there, but yes, thank your thermo imaging. There is
some inflation in the walls that has moved and slipped
in a few places. There's none this year. It was
built nineteen.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, yeah, same year as my house. It's the same year.
And then you're right, depending on the type of insulation
that was in there, whether it was cellulose, or whether
the cellulose was big in ninety nine, or whether it
was fiberglass batting or anything along those lines of thermal imaging,
you can really see where the vulnerable spots are, and
(25:48):
that foam will go in there. You know, it's a
path of the least resistance. It's under pressure, it finds
the gaps and heels them up. That house will be quieter,
it'll be better insulated. And yeah, for folks that have
nothing in the walls, I feel for them. Talked about
(26:11):
last week. I said, you got to make that move
because you're not going to be able to forge your
home if you don't. I mean it. I think it's yeah.
And also another thing you'll notice too, uh don really
with that foam insulation being pumped into that wall is
(26:32):
some people would say, well, Gary, there's only like three
corps of an inch, you know, like if they have nothing,
there's only three corps of an inch. You know, I
can only get up to an R five. And I said,
but you will totally eliminate the draft.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Well that's the thing, right, and.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's the thing that is.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
The thing ye walls right, Okay, all right, all right,
my friend advice. Do you have a good day? I
help you feel better bout that?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
All right, I appreciate it, Thank you, take care, bye bye.
All right again, it's eight hundred and eight two three
eight two five five and let's go to Mark Mark.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Welcome, Hi Gary, thanks to nicking my call. You bet
you had a caller of a few callers ago complaining
about a smell in the sink.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, the of smell, right, and I.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Got it in the middle of the conversation. Is this
in one particular sink or is it multiple?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I know exactly where you're going. I think it's in
two sinks in a vanity area, which which could so
keep going because I didn't talk about that. I thought
about it, but I didn't talk about So keep going
with your thought.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Okay. My thinking is there is something in that drain.
When he turns the faucet on, it stirs things up
inside that peat trap and is probably in a communication
accumulation of teethpaste. And there a lot of toothpastes have
a sulfur extracts called salt fates, okay, and that could
(28:10):
be the cause of that sulfur smell. And what I've
noticed in the past, is like, you know, the accumulation
of toothpaste on the bottom of that pea trap, and
every time it turned the water on, it stirs up
that that you know smell in the drain, and and
that's what.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, I you gave a better answer than I did,
and I was thinking that I wasn't thinking necessarily the
pea trap. I was thinking about the overflow in the
sink bowl.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Uh, it could be too, but yeah, I'm thinking of
in the tea trap. I've had customers call me about
smells in the sink and it was just one particular sink.
It's probbably in that beat trapp.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, you know, so many of the things were using
that bathroom may More is all gel based too, so
I'm sure you see it. There's a lot of sticky
material and those pet traps or in the drains, in
bacteria and different things. So yeah, I love your answer.
I did not bring it up. I was kind of
thinking about it and I was just so fixated on
(29:17):
the faucet, and then afterwards I thought, oh, I probably
should have said something about the drain. So thank you
for reminding us.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
I called you a couple of weeks ago about that
sway fom stuff the lady wanted to put in their
pipes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Yeah, And what I get to say was, thank you
for your show. I appreciate your show. I learned stuff.
Every time I listen.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
To you, I do too, I learned. I learned something today.
So thank you, Mark, I appreciate it. Take care. I
have a great weekend, all right, But but yeah, that
is I'm getting ready to another few months start the
fortieth year doing this show. And I've said it many
times and it's the truth there in the weekend that
(29:58):
goes by that I don't pick up something. And Mark
called last week because I was talking about when you
take a walk around the home looking for gaps in
the envelope of the home and filling them up, clocking
them different types of fillers, and I mentioned spray foam.
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I ain't say what kind of spray foam, and I
don't think it matters, and Mark up plumbers is don't
tell people to do that stuff. So you started this
show when I was eight, Yeah, yeah, keep it up,
keep it up. And he don't use that because getting
that stuff out of the pipe and the phone, it's
a mess. Please don't do that. And I appreciate that.
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All right, let's go to David. David welcome.
Speaker 13 (30:51):
Oh yeah, mor Than Gary. Yeah, I wish I could have. Yeah,
I wish I could have carried on the conversation of
that last guy about the toothpaste. Little girlfriend of mine
used to tell me not to spit in the toilet,
but spit in the sink instead, because I think her
father had told her about that toothpaste building up in
the pipes. And yeah, and I mean I figured the
(31:15):
toilet would be like a massive amount of water to
flush it through instead of you know, all who much
to turn the spigot. And yeah, so I wonder if
he's got any data on that.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
Hey.
Speaker 13 (31:28):
Well, what I really called about, though, was what you
call catchment ponds. And you know, if somebody has a
half half acre of land or something like that, a
sloping lawn, and you know, if if they were to
put like a little berm down at the bottom of
their hill just to have enough a small pond sort
(31:51):
of thing like in a big heavy rain, you know,
not enough to make a mosquito larvae or anything like that, Yeah,
but just enough, yeah, just enough to have like it
soaks all in like in a couple of days, and
and so it's not a standing pool, but just enough
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to not erode the yard. And I'm wondering if you
know about things like that and any recommendations for like
zoning or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, I was just gonna mention right away when you
were talking about that, I was thinking, the first thing
you want to do is you want to get a
soil percolation test to see if it's going to be
able you know, how that water is gonna deal with
that area. And there's probably a municipal or state you know,
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place that you can go to get that test and
to get you know, the the you know, the information
that you're going to need because it depends really on
the type of soil. You know, a little bit of clay,
a lot of clay, a whole bunch of clay. No
clay is really going to determine on how that's going
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to be able to hold and allow that you know,
land to absorb that. So that's what you would start with.
I'm sure that's what you would start with. Is there
a place to run rather than retain it?
Speaker 13 (33:22):
Well, the reason I bring it up is I saw
a video on YouTube about how fast the Sahara Desert
turned from green to desert. And they are now figuring
it might have happened in less than one hundred years,
and I'm worried. You know, if you think about the
dust Bowl days that was ninety years ago in America
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and that well, I think there was a famous dust
storm that went from Oklahoma all the way to Washington, DC.
And the people in Congress weren't going to vote for
it until they saw that dust coming in from Virginia
or whatever. And so I'm just thinking about America. We've
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had so many of these torrential downpours. I think they
had Tennessee had five inches of rain in a half
an hour.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And that's like a fire, you know, like they're having
a big rain right now. They really are. But yeah,
when you want to start retaining water though, I mean
we I talk a lot about water proofing even a home,
it's really about water controlling, not water proofing. And when
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it comes to retaining I think it's really going to
depend on will your soil be able to retain that?
And that's why I say I would start with that process.
I think it's a soil and water department that can
kind of take a look at lay of the land
and see if it will maintain or not. Thank you
(34:56):
much for the call, David, I appreciate it. We'll continue
with your college. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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right about ten minutes before the top of the air,
talking a little home improvement. Thank you for joining me.
If you'd like to ask you a question, jump on board. Bill, Welcome, Hey.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Bill, Oh yeah, I'm here, all right. What you got Well,
I've got a house with a cross base. The kitchen
sink is right straight down to the junction of the
pipes that meet from the three sinks and two toilets.
Speaker 11 (38:12):
In the house.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
And last Monday.
Speaker 13 (38:18):
I found out.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Where I flushed the toilet and it clogged, so I
got a plunger, and when I plunged it, there was
like a small explosion and the water came out from
the base when I flushed it. And the second toilet
(38:42):
did the same thing. So I got some plumbers eye.
And it says you can't use it in toilets, and
it says you pour the powder in the drain and
then you pour hot water after that. So I'm wanting
to find out. No, I don't know if that's worked yet,
(39:03):
I'm gonna do it again. But it says you should
only do it twice. But I don't know if that
means in the same drain or total.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
But if it doesn't, so it's just reacting in other
toilets and other sinks, and is the system moving you know,
water and on waste through that pipe.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Currently the sinks don't seem to block up. It could
be that they're farther away. I don't know. It's the
toilets mainly. But if I can't fix this, then it's
going to cost me like a thousand dollars to get
a plumber out here to snake it from the roof.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah. Yeah, well i'll tell you what. I don't know
about that particular product, so I'm not going to answer that.
But one of the things that I would say, quite honestly,
I would get maybe not only and they get a
camera down there and let's see what's going on. I mean,
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whether it's going to cost you or not it's going
to function. I think a lot of us get in
trouble when we start guessing and we start pouring drain
cleaners in there or whatever product you're talking about using
and I'm not sure what that product is, so I
don't want to offer an opinion on that, but if
it were I, I would certainly get a camera down
(40:30):
through there and be able to analyze exactly what that
problem is, because it is a problem, and whether it's
going to not affect the sinks right now, it's a
good chance it eventually it will if there's a blockage,
or even that pipe that goes underground has got issues
with tree roots or separations. I just don't know. I
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think you need to get in there and be able
to see. We get in trouble when we start guessing
what problems are and just start throwing stuff down there.
And so that would be I would get a plumber
out there or rent a camera in a line and
run that down and see what's going on, treat the
(41:13):
cause rather than guessing. All right, we'll go to ow Al.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Welcome, good morning, Gary, appreciate your show.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Here we are twenty.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Five year old home has steel gutters that I've inspected
and cleaned the granules out of, and I much might
have found some areas maybe two three feet on the
horizontal and somewhat on a vertical surfaces that are corroded
that look like there's some kind of a one time
some kind of a paint on there, and you know,
(41:43):
mother nature in twenty five years and I've got some
surface trust. I'm thinking about using a producol auspice supposed
to be a neutralizer, and then following up once it
gets dried out, so and so with restolium with a
metal primer, and then a white paint to reflect the heat.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Your thoughts, well, that's fine. I've mentioned different products that
are like rust neutralizers, rust reformers. What they are just
for people listening, what they are is it's not a pain.
It's a chemical that creates a chemical reaction with the
iron oxide, sealing the wro iron oxide into the metal
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and you wouldn't even need to use a primer. They
usually function I'm not familiar with that exact brand name,
but they ones i've seen. They function as a metal primer. Then,
so it's used the rust neutralizer, you give it a
couple of days, I believe, and then you go ahead
and put your rustolium over that. The only thing to
(42:47):
beware of is, you know, is that surface rust or
is that pretty much advanced rust where it's scaly and
maybe pinholes. You know that.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
I don't know, it hasn't gotten to the point of pinholes,
but there is in some areas a little bit of scaling.
Just like I said, the roof granules have been on
there and help moisture, and you know, the corrosion processes
has maybe advanced, but not to the point of holding
through the gut. So that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I'd probably knock off the scaling a little bit, you know,
just you know, wire brush that the rest of it.
You don't even have to wire brush, you just let
the chemical reaction take place.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
Okay, yeah, I was uh you mentioned about not priming,
but what's your thought. Well, it sounds like we're coming
up against the frate, but you you know, there's no
waste to time. Just go ahead and the top coat
with a white that reflective paint rustolium.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
If you can, or if you want to go ahead,
if you want to prime it, you certainly can. And
what I would do then is use the rust neutralizer
and then use the red metal primer that Rusto Lamb
has that's for heavy rusted areas which you have with
that flaking rust, and then do your top coat after that.
(44:02):
All right, appreciate call. Thank you, al, good luck to
you in we'll continue with your calls. You're at home
with Gary Sullivan.
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