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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, it's a weekend. Welcome at home with Gary Sullivan.
Thank you for joining me. In a scratchy voice, I
have look hold, but we're surviving, so bear with me,
and if you're gonna help me out and kind of
joining the show as we talk about your projects, I
would appreciate that it's eight hundred eight two three eight
(00:52):
two five five. We'll chat about wrapping up summer projects,
maybe kicking off some winter projects and fall projects, because
we need to always look forward to see what's going on.
And one of the things as the weather changes, we
start in a lot of cases, at least that's been
my experience. As the weather changes, cooler temperatures and certainly
(01:16):
on the horizon, plumbing is one of the first things
to fail. So maybe we can talk about insulating exposed pipes,
checking your some pump and here's one right out of
the Chuot emergency supplies. Every time we have a you know,
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bad thunderstorm or a tornado watch or something along those lines,
we kind of kind of know where what we have,
kind of know where it's at. But we've just kind
of consolidated a particular cabinet where you know, there's some
blankets and some flashlights, batteries, things like that where we
can easily assess. So do you have that at your house.
(01:59):
That's one question you might ask yourself. Also, as we
go into October with Fire Safety Month, you're going to
start hearing a lot about fire extinguishers, fire escape plan
for your house, chimney inspection, furnace inspections, and not a
(02:20):
bad idea to do just that, to follow along and
see what kind of emergency supplies and maintenance you need
to do around the home. We can help you with
that today. Again, that line is eight hundred eight two
three eight two five to five. Another thing to check
because we've been dry here. We were wet in early summer,
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but we're dry now. Had a little bit of showers,
but not much I know out West and Phoenix and everything.
The delus not here. But a good idea if you
have a some pump that's protecting your home, might be
a real good idea to check that. If you've got
a battery backup pump, is the battery functioning, might be
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a real good idea to check that. And a lot
of times you can just simply unplug maybe the pump
or lift the float up on the battery pump and
see if that engages, see if that's working. Also looking
for exposed pipes and get those insulated. I would certainly
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recommend doing that, especially if you're new to the home.
You know, if you're old to the home and been
there twenty years, you probably know whether it's vulnerabilities are
and you can check and make sure you probably in
the past went back and insulate them. If you had
problems with that pipe in the water and the pipe freezing,
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you know where those vulnerabilities are. If you are new
to the home in the last four or five years,
maybe we haven't had a lot of really cold temperatures
and seeing bear copper pipe maybe in the attic, maybe
in a cross space, maybe in an underground garage underneath
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the house, those are things you want to check and
quite honestly, get those insulated before you have real cold temperatures.
And as I was saying, October with fire Safety month,
you might check to see if you have if your
family knows if you have fire extinguishers, what they're rating
on those fire extinguishers are, are they charged? Does everybody
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know how to use one? You know, it's always it's
always the simple things that we take for granted that
we probably shouldn't have taken for granted that get us
in trouble. So you can follow along today, maybe make
a few notes, and maybe get to work on some
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of those things. You know. One of the things we
see in the fault is, like I said, where I met,
it was a wet, wet early summer. Now it's very dry.
It looks like it's gonna be a very dry fall
and winter by its very nature of cold temperatures is dry.
Start looking for things that signify dryness in the home. Obviously,
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if you have a humidity gage, it's going to tell
you that it's dry. It's going to be showing numbers
like twenty five and thirty percent, maybe even less inside
your home. That's going to be dry to a point
where building materials inside your home is going to shrink.
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They might have a nail pop out of the drywall,
or you might have pulling back of the drywall from
the crown molding. And I would just simply get some
calking and get that filled. I think then if you
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want to paint it, go ahead, but get those filled
when they shrink back is a great idea. All right,
let's get to the phones, kick things off in sun Deep. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
All right, Darry, thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
My question is I last spring I had painted my
interior garage with a paint sprayer, and I didn't realize
until I did the fall outside of my house, like
the exterior inspection, that some of the might have an
exterior garage door that's brown. But the paint was gray,
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so I saw some like gray spots on like the
top panel. I got some Google on Latex paint like
clean up, but it didn't really take that paint off.
I guess my question is do you know something that
would take the paint off or do I have to
go and paint the exterior garage door again.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm surprised that googn didn't take that off. To be
honest with you, is it a textured garage door. Yes,
and you had a thick enough cloth where you could
really use some melbow grease in there and lift that off. Correct.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean I sprayed it like it's in on
the directions it said wait a few minutes evenly double
that and then I use a microfiber cloth and it
didn't didn't really do much.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, and I'm assuming that that garage door is more
of a solvent base, you think, because otherwise it could
take the paint off that. I mean, it's pretty stout,
sun deep, and it really should take it off. So
I'm kind of a quandary now, because if that's not
taking it off, your next step up would be like
(07:49):
a paint stripper. And if you're going to use a
paint stripper, it's probably going to take the paint off
the garage door too. So we're back to maybe just
re you know, painting the to your garage store. Okay,
I think that's gonna be the best bet, unless really
that goo gon is the really go to thing. In fact,
on my notes today, I was going to talk a
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little bit about inside, and I have even down on
my notes goog gone for paint splatters on a wood floor,
because that's usually what will take latex paint right off.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Gotcha, got okay?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
All right, all right, thank you, good enough, Thanks for
the call, appreciate it all right, and our phone numbers
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five will
continue with your calls. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
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Speaker 1 (11:17):
All right, back to work we go nineteen minutes after
the top of the hour, and let's get to the phones.
We got Bill, Bill, Welcome Gary, Good morning morning.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Hey.
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Speaker 7 (11:41):
Not a mandatory.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
You're welcome.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
I have a question on your You brought up a
quick topic on fire extinguishers. Now, I have a small
apartment and I have one or two in the house,
a very small household ABC. Which is you know, paper oil, grease,
electric works. Yeah, now, yeah, yeah, it's a simple product.
(12:07):
It's good to have. You keep it in like a bedroom.
You keep it under the kitchen sink, and that's about
it that you know, that gives you a little bit
of security. Here's my question. My understanding is it good
for five years? Now? I'm thinking they're a dry chemical,
so there's no water involved. So it's a dry chemical,
(12:29):
and I'm thinking it should be longer than that. And
as long as the pressure is good to go, it's
not discharged or anything.
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I think we lost him, Danny, I believe so, yeah,
he just disappeared from my board.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah. So you know, an easy answer to that is,
quite honestly, there will be an expiration date stamped on
that particular fire extinguisher. If you have the rechargeable type,
there'll be a dial it the top. It'll show you
where it's charger and if it's charged enough. I think
(13:07):
a lot of different brands are not going to have
a universal expiration date, but check and see if it's not.
I know on some of the newer type where you
say you have the smaller ones, the smaller ones almost
look like an aerosol a can of aerosol paint, and
(13:28):
those are really good. You get an ABC fire extinguisher
and that it has the force of one of those
larger fire extinguishers. Obviously there's not as much in there,
but very very handy, and there's usually an expiration date
on that. So do check that again. If you have
a fire extinguisher with a doll on the top, it's
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going to have an expiration date on the base. It's
also going to have where it is in terms of
being charged. And you know, sometimes we start surmising, well,
it's this kind, it should last longer than that. Just
don't do that and just go with what the manufacturer
is actually stating, because they do a tremendous amount of testing,
(14:13):
have collected a lot of data on exactly how long
that thing is functioning at peak performance. You know a
lot of those. You know with the expiration date, it
may work, but not at its peak performance. So let's
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(14:33):
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Good to hear from you.
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Thank you.
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Used it twice, and I waited about one week and
two weeks and asked in over three weeks, and I
(14:59):
never could see where it was changing. That though black
dark mold is still from a concrete driveway and walk
way and that sort of thing. I never could see
where it was doing any It just didn't seem to
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Just what so you've used it three weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah. Yeah, one of them was three weeks ago. One
of them was probably over a month ago.
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Okay, all right. Number one. Number one thing is don't
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was effective after three days. Yes, sometimes it was effective
six to seven weeks.
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Good.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So I always tell the story. And this was right
when I first started talking about Wet and Forget. And
you know, I mean, I trial the things I talk about.
I've used them, I'm satisfied with them. And when that
product first came out, I was going like, yeah, right,
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(16:11):
It worked, and I started talking about and this lady
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said that went and forget. I got this white fence
that goes all the way around my yard and I
sprayed that five weeks ago and it's still green. And
I went a breather and I said, well, listen, give
it another week and if it's not gone, you call me.
(16:34):
And she never called, and I ran into her, I
don't know a little bit later after that week expired,
and she told me she goes, you know, it was
about the sixth week, maybe a little bit later. It
I just went out one day and all the green
was gone. And that's a true story. It's fascinating, but
(16:55):
there's also times it doesn't work right. I mean, I'm
not saying that, like, you know, you got a fifty
to fifty shot at it. I'm saying about it. If
the weather conditions when it was applied is really hot
and really sunny, and we spray it on a surface
that's really really hot, there's going to vporate. Yeah, there's
(17:18):
going to be some evaporation that's going to take place.
So if you don't use it when it's kind of
you know, I say coolish, meaning under ninety it's it's
functional after ninety. It's just that you probably got to
put a little bit more on because you're going to
have some evaporation. Ideally, if you were going to use it,
(17:40):
cloudy and eighty degrees is perfect, sonny and ninety five
degrees is less than perfect.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, So maybe and you put it on there for
a while and if the sun comes out it seems
to bleach it out. What because I got part of it,
Will Hundre of canopy where the sun didn't hear it
and there was into the little walter that was out
(18:08):
in the sun. That part it bleached out and did
pretty good.
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Right well, that product works after you spray it on.
It works in conjunction with rain and sun. Right, Okay,
So if you got an overhang and you're trying to
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It's probably getting a wee bit of sun, but very filtered,
(18:35):
so that might be the cause of it. That's the
one that's kind of holding you up. So it is.
It's the driveway you said though, that wasn't really bleaching out, correct,
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Got thumped straight, So I'm all use the risk of it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, I was gonna say, don't give up on it.
If you want to put another application on it, go ahead.
If you want to wait two weeks and if nothing happens,
go ahead and reapply another application of it. But it's
got a pretty good track record mending. Just don't give
up on it. Then you know it needs the rain
and it needs the sun to keep that active. But
(19:17):
when it's really sunny and on application day, it could
cost some evaporation just because of the heat and the sun.
All right, thank you much for the call. I appreciate it.
You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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All right back there. If we go at home with
Gary Salivan getting a few things done around the home,
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talk about your home project again. Our phone number is
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five talking
a little home improvement. And when we were talking about
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the weather conditions for application or what and forget weather
conditions always important when you're working with ceilants, cleaners, clocking, paints,
you know, anything along those lines. Always paying attention to
temperature ranges of application, of course when it can be
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applied to moist surfaces. But I'll tell you usually this
time of year is like perfect for any type of work.
And that's not only for the substrate but for you
doing the application. It's more comfortable this time of year.
So if you've been putting off, and I know many
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people that actually you know, they get excited about it
in the spring or summer, and they buy the products,
maybe they buy the paint, but they never get it
on until full time because then all of a sudden,
the weather's just perfect for application and for you getting
(23:34):
out to get that job done. So again, if it's
over ninety and brilliant sunshine and humid, probably not the
best for any of that. But man, if you get
a day where it's eighty eighty five and low humidity
and nice sunshine, you go for it. It does, it'll
do a great job. So happy to talk to you
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about maybe a little deck cleaning and deck ceiling. Of
course that's always big into your painting. It was interesting
I did an interview this past week and the host
says to me, what's going on with paint? I said,
what do you mean, what's going on with paint? It's
so dog gone expensive? Oh yeah it is. It really is.
(24:17):
A lot of places run paint on sale, though, so recommendation.
Maybe wait for it to go on sale. I've seen
it where it's you know, twenty five thirty percent off.
But paint is expensive. There's gowns of interior Latex now
are in the fifty sixty, seventy dollars range. And so
I said, well, paint so much better than it was
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just fifteen years ago. Why how, I said, well, you know,
you know, you go back fifteen twenty years ago, paint
was not nearly as scrubbable as it is today. Who cares,
you know, it gets dirty? Just paint again. Well, you
don't have to though something to day's paints. Used to
(25:02):
be if you put a little uh, cleanser on a
cloth and water and scrub, you would burnish the paint.
In other words, you would polish the paint. You could
see where somebody rubbed a cloth on it. You you
burnished it. You made it shiny, not today's paint. Also
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when you painted, and there's proper ways to paint, but
back in the day, with the less expensive paints, you
had to really follow it by q. You could make
a W on a wall and then go you know,
vertically and horizontally until you get it to where you
know there's no ridges and you know, want to make
sure it's leveled out and you put a good film
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on that wall. Not as hard to do that with
today's paint. You used to have to prime it, wash
the wall, prime it, and then paint it not with
today's paint, gotta wash the wall, don't have the prim
you're more expensive. Paint's got a primer in it. And
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the ability for paint to hold its color and not fade,
whether it's exterior paint or even interior paint if you
have a lot of windows, not as much as it
used to be. So paint has improved dramatically. And what
keeps paint from fading in a lot of cases is
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titanium dioxide. Titanium, It prevents fading from the UV rays
of the sun, especially on outdoor paints. It's not cheap.
That's what makes paint cover better. Also titanium. So paint
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has gotten better. And then just with you know, the
cost of goods and all that. Of course you're going
to have a bump on that. We all know all
about that. But there's been some remarkable, remarkable advances in pain.
It's been dramatic and pretty much. I tell people all
the time I talk to different clubs, I'll say, that's
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one project anybody can tackle. You can get that done.
But that's one of the reasons why the cost of
pain has gone up, because it's so much better. And
once you do that and a little tip too. If
you're gonna do the ceiling, start where that ceiling is
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the brightest, So paint to the dark corner of the ceiling.
I know that sounds weird, but if you're gonna be
working overhead and it's a decent sized room, your arm's
gonna get tired. If you paint towards the brightest part
of the ceiling, you're not gonna be laying down as
good a coat of pain on her. So always start
where the brightest part of the ceiling is and work
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to the darkest point. Work to that dark, shadowy corner
and you'll get a very good looking paint job. And
then the applicator too, no question, that plays an important
role in it. The applicator is based on not only
the thickness of the fibers, so it's called the pile.
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You can get a three ace of an inch half
inch for drywall, those would be acceptable. You get into
the five a three quarter inch not acceptable. Too thick.
It's good for cement block, not good for drywall. So
if you're hiring it out, that's one thing. But if
you're going to tackle a job yourself by good paint,
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if you got kids, and you're going to hire it
out by good paint, and if you're going to do
it yourself by a good applicator, those are going to
hide maybe your lack of talent, we'll say, but a
good paint, good applicators will really cover up a lot
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of mistakes. And colors are so forgiving, you know. It
used to be we would always talk about semigloss satin
flat paints. The flatter the paint, the more it'll hide imperfections.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
On the wall.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
We used to people when they remodeled or something, and
you had the tape, and you had the drywall nails
and all that, and you had patching and topping. Compound
that first coat of paint, you should put the cheapest
paint you can find. That's usually the flattest. Back in
the day, that was the flat. You could buy it
for five bucks a gallon. It was flat, it looked
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pretty good. The next time your paint is not going
to scrub, but go ahead and put a little better
quality on. But now they got the best of quality
that's really flat, so you can so if you get
a pure flat and a nice you know, dark dark
olive green or something, man, it almost looks like Swede.
(30:09):
It looks so good and it hides so many imperfections.
If you got you know, wild and crazy with a
spackling compound and start patching all these holes. You could
hit it with a little you know, a little brush
with some primer on it, but then your self priming
paint with that flat finish. You go over that and
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you can't find out where where where the mistakes are,
or where the dings and the dents are. You'll you'll
hide them very nicely. So it is a project I
think you can all tackle in again. When you are
finished painting marking those cans. They're putting them in and
(30:55):
air tight. There's there's one there's a product out there
called touch Up Cup. It's got silicon seal. It's about
six sixteen ounce cup. Pour your touch up paint in
the air and tighten that lit up and I'll tell
you what, if you keep it from freezing, it'll be
good for a long long time. As long as you
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have that color in that wall, I guarantee you. And
it is amazing to me that you can open that up,
that touch Up cup start painting over dings and dents
or chips that somebody did to the wall in the
last ten years and it'll blend right in and it
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never used to. So today's paints are worth so much more,
all right, Our phone numbers eight hundred eight two three
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All right, back here it we go thirteen minutes before
the top of the air talking a little home improvement
in our phone number. If you'd got a question to ask,
it's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
and let's go to Frank. Frank, Welcome morning, Gary Martin.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Uh, I got this white formation on my fore joist
on the back porch, and it's a it's a bad
situation as far as it's no gutta and there's water
hitting that deck all the time. It's an old wood
frame porch and stuff. And I get this white stuff.
I don't know if it's mold, dry rot or what
(35:04):
the heck is stott in below the floorboards on the
side of the joye. Well, they should use to treat it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So it's on the joys and underneath that floor where
the joys are is Are those joys painted or stained
or are they just pressure treated wood or what are they?
Speaker 9 (35:23):
It's just old wood frame, It's not it's just old timber,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well, my guess is it's molding the wood. Is the
wood dense or anything? Or is it rotted? Is it
dry rot?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Not yet?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
I don't think I think it's starting or whatever, you
know what I'm saying the other.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So my guess is, my guess is it's mold. Not
much sunlight down there either, correct, Right? So I mean
there are products that you can use to remove that mold.
I don't know how extensive it is. I guess is
your question is it mold? The only way I would
know if it's mold is if you've got a mold
(36:11):
test kit where you scrape something in and then mail
it out and they can identify the mold. But I'm
guessing it is mold.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
Yeah, I would say so because there's the water conditioned there,
because there's no guts at that end of the house
and it's open ports flooring. But you know what, but yeah,
I think that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Get the sun like like you, So what are you
gonna do?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Well?
Speaker 9 (36:41):
What can I treat it with.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, so you you would like to clean it up then, correct, right, Okay,
there's a couple of there's one for exterior, but it
works in conjunction with the sun and the water. And
I have a feeling where this is you don't have
much of that, correct, I mean you might have water,
but you don't have much sun. So there's several brands
(37:06):
out there. One of the products we speak of a
lot is called Wet and Forget, which is an outdoor
cleaner that you spray on and just forget it and
it gets rid of mold, mildew, fungus, algae. But you
need the sun and the rain to make it effective.
So if you don't have that, they have one called
(37:26):
Wet and Forget disinfectant and mold remover, And that's the
one I think you would use where you would just
spray it down and just follow your directions. I believe
on that one, you after after you spray it down
so long, I think you have to scrub it down
with soap and water to remove the actual stain from
(37:49):
the mold. But that's what I would do, you know,
and you know that'll get rid of the mold which
is going to eat into that wood and eventually comprom
mis the wood. That's how Mother nature removes all the
leaves and sticks and wood out in Mother nature is
with mold. So this will clean this up. But then
(38:10):
the question is it's gonna come back unless you change
the situation, right.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
I'm wondering. Now, agenated bleach.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You can try that too. You can try that. Oxygenate
bleach would do a good job for you. Yeah, just
use a mask. Don't use don't yeah, don't use chlorine
bleach and water and a little soap. A lot of
people will recommend that, but mold actually can detect chlorine
(38:44):
bleach and when it detects it, it it explodes spores
into the air, which is usually right in your face.
So stay away from that. But oxygen aate bleach would
work fine.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Yeah, I had Usually I used to use the chlorine
chlorine bleached fhere and it seemed like it always came back.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, well it's gonna come back. That's like I said,
that's the way mother nature all works, you know. I
mean that's the way it works. Now with the oxygenated
bleach or that disinfectant and mold remover, that's more of
a complete kill versus chlorine bleach. That doesn't mean it's
(39:27):
not gonna come back. That means it's going to give
you an extra year.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Right, that'll help me because I'm fixing the roof and
I'm gonna put a set of gutters on the back.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Of the house.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
As quick as we get that off, the better off too,
because it will continue to break down that wood. So
that was a very timely call. You get on that
right away. All all right, take care, Frank, Thanks appreciate.
All right, let's Ray Ray Welcome.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Hi Gary, great show. How are you.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Good?
Speaker 8 (40:08):
My question is this About three years ago, we had
a patio installed behind our homes. Not real big, it's
about ten by eighteen ish, and we use these pavers
that are about an inch thick, their exterior pavers. The
crew came in with a bacco. They pulled out all
(40:30):
the topsoil, dug down, put in about I don't know,
at least four inches of base, compacted the base real well.
I was really impressed with the job they were doing.
And then they laid the tiles in an ashlar pattern,
you know, the different sized squares, and grouted it with
this dry grout. I don't know exactly what it is,
(40:54):
but it wasn't wet. They grouted and broomed it in
and then it sets up over time. As you know
the store's moisture, you probably know what it is.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Right.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
That sounds right. This year in northern Cincinnati, as you know,
we've had a terrible drought and a lot of clay soils,
And what I'm seeing now is the the pavers have
settled or shifted just a little bit and there's a
hairline crack that follows the grout line pretty much all
(41:31):
across the patio. So my question is, uh, is there
a way to fix that? But White did not have
to take all the ground out, or am I gonna
have to regrout the whole.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Area?
Speaker 4 (41:52):
You number one, it's not grout, it's it's polymeric sand.
There's a big difference. Okay, So grout is light the
out as the.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Cementatious product that's put in between ceramic tile where it is,
or a sand mix can be like a grouting, so
it's much harder, it's much more, it's much more cementatious.
You have sand with an acrylic polymeric resin in it.
When it is wetted, it stiffens up, it hardens, but
(42:25):
it's not like grout. And the reason they use that
ray is because if that was grout, you wouldn't want
my answer, because my answer would be you got to
get a sawt you got to cut all that grout out.
You don't have to with this, you know. I mean
what I would do is, first of all, I probably
(42:45):
wouldn't worry about it till spring. And then what I
would do is you should be and you can go
out and test this. Now, you go out there with
a chisel or a flat tip screwdriver and see if
you can't scratch a lot of that stuff out. And
my guess as you can. It's stiffened up, but it's
not like concrete, and you can, you can. You can
(43:08):
compromise it, you know, scrape a bunch of at up,
take a shop back, suck it up, sweep it away,
and then just you know, put in some more polymeric sand.
You got some seedtling because of the exact reasons you said,
have a lot of clay, and we had a lot
of spring rains and that swells and then you hit
(43:29):
a drought and it shrinks, so there's movement. It's wobbled.
The papers around a little bit. It's created a crack
and uh so we got to address that, but I
will address it in the uh springtime. In the meantime,
just see how easy it is to remove. So not
as big of a project as you think. So good
luck with that. Appreciate to call if you'd like to
(43:50):
join us in the next hour. Certainly welcome to It's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. You're
at home with Kerry Salimon.
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Time to get your hands dirty with Gary Sullivan. Give
him a call at one eight hundred and eighty two
three talk. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Well, it's a weekend. Welcome at home with Gary Sullivan.
Thank you for joining me. In a scratchy voice, I
have look hold, but we're surviving, so bear with me,
and if you're gonna help me out and kind of
joining the show as we talk about your projects, I
would appreciate that it's eight hundred eight two three eight
(00:52):
two five five. We'll chat about wrapping up summer projects,
maybe kicking off some winter projects and fall projects, because
we need to always look forward to see what's going on.
And one of the things as the weather changes, we
start in a lot of cases, at least that's been
my experience. As the weather changes, cooler temperatures and certainly
(01:16):
on the horizon, plumbing is one of the first things
to fail. So maybe we can talk about insulating exposed pipes,
checking your some pump and here's one right out of
the Chuot emergency supplies. Every time we have a you know,
(01:37):
bad thunderstorm or a tornado watch or something along those lines,
we kind of kind of know where what we have,
kind of know where it's at. But we've just kind
of consolidated a particular cabinet where you know, there's some
blankets and some flashlights, batteries, things like that where we
can easily assess. So do you have that at your house.
(01:59):
That's one question you might ask yourself. Also, as we
go into October with Fire Safety Month, you're going to
start hearing a lot about fire extinguishers, fire escape plan
for your house, chimney inspection, furnace inspections, and not a
(02:20):
bad idea to do just that, to follow along and
see what kind of emergency supplies and maintenance you need
to do around the home. We can help you with
that today. Again, that line is eight hundred eight two
three eight two five to five. Another thing to check
because we've been dry here. We were wet in early summer,
(02:42):
but we're dry now. Had a little bit of showers,
but not much I know out West and Phoenix and everything.
The delus not here. But a good idea if you
have a some pump that's protecting your home, might be
a real good idea to check that. If you've got
a battery backup pump, is the battery functioning, might be
(03:05):
a real good idea to check that. And a lot
of times you can just simply unplug maybe the pump
or lift the float up on the battery pump and
see if that engages, see if that's working. Also looking
for exposed pipes and get those insulated. I would certainly
(03:26):
recommend doing that, especially if you're new to the home.
You know, if you're old to the home and been
there twenty years, you probably know whether it's vulnerabilities are
and you can check and make sure you probably in
the past went back and insulate them. If you had
problems with that pipe in the water and the pipe freezing,
(03:48):
you know where those vulnerabilities are. If you are new
to the home in the last four or five years,
maybe we haven't had a lot of really cold temperatures
and seeing bear copper pipe maybe in the attic, maybe
in a cross space, maybe in an underground garage underneath
(04:12):
the house, those are things you want to check and
quite honestly, get those insulated before you have real cold temperatures.
And as I was saying, October with fire Safety month,
you might check to see if you have if your
family knows if you have fire extinguishers, what they're rating
on those fire extinguishers are, are they charged? Does everybody
(04:36):
know how to use one? You know, it's always it's
always the simple things that we take for granted that
we probably shouldn't have taken for granted that get us
in trouble. So you can follow along today, maybe make
a few notes, and maybe get to work on some
(04:57):
of those things. You know. One of the things we
see in the fault is, like I said, where I met,
it was a wet, wet early summer. Now it's very dry.
It looks like it's gonna be a very dry fall
and winter by its very nature of cold temperatures is dry.
Start looking for things that signify dryness in the home. Obviously,
(05:22):
if you have a humidity gage, it's going to tell
you that it's dry. It's going to be showing numbers
like twenty five and thirty percent, maybe even less inside
your home. That's going to be dry to a point
where building materials inside your home is going to shrink.
(05:43):
They might have a nail pop out of the drywall,
or you might have pulling back of the drywall from
the crown molding. And I would just simply get some
calking and get that filled. I think then if you
(06:04):
want to paint it, go ahead, but get those filled
when they shrink back is a great idea. All right,
let's get to the phones, kick things off in sun Deep. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
All right, Darry, thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
My question is I last spring I had painted my
interior garage with a paint sprayer, and I didn't realize
until I did the fall outside of my house, like
the exterior inspection, that some of the might have an
exterior garage door that's brown. But the paint was gray,
(06:42):
so I saw some like gray spots on like the
top panel. I got some Google on Latex paint like
clean up, but it didn't really take that paint off.
I guess my question is do you know something that
would take the paint off or do I have to
go and paint the exterior garage door again.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm surprised that googn didn't take that off. To be
honest with you, is it a textured garage door. Yes,
and you had a thick enough cloth where you could
really use some melbow grease in there and lift that off. Correct.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean I sprayed it like it's in on
the directions it said wait a few minutes evenly double
that and then I use a microfiber cloth and it
didn't didn't really do much.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, and I'm assuming that that garage door is more
of a solvent base, you think, because otherwise it could
take the paint off that. I mean, it's pretty stout,
sun deep, and it really should take it off. So
I'm kind of a quandary now, because if that's not
taking it off, your next step up would be like
(07:49):
a paint stripper. And if you're going to use a
paint stripper, it's probably going to take the paint off
the garage door too. So we're back to maybe just
re you know, painting the to your garage store. Okay,
I think that's gonna be the best bet, unless really
that goo gon is the really go to thing. In fact,
on my notes today, I was going to talk a
(08:11):
little bit about inside, and I have even down on
my notes goog gone for paint splatters on a wood floor,
because that's usually what will take latex paint right off.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Gotcha, got okay?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
All right, all right, thank you, good enough, Thanks for
the call, appreciate it all right, and our phone numbers
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five will
continue with your calls. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Weekends, I mean, a never writing list of things to
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All right, back to work we go nineteen minutes after
the top of the hour, and let's get to the phones.
We got Bill, Bill, Welcome Gary, Good morning morning.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Hey.
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Speaker 8 (11:43):
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You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
I have a question on your You brought up a
quick topic on fire extinguishers. Now, I have a small
apartment and I have one or two in the house,
a very small household ABC. Which is you know, paper oil, grease,
electric works. Yeah, now, yeah, yeah, it's a simple product.
(12:07):
It's good to have. You keep it in like a bedroom.
You keep it under the kitchen sink, and that's about
it that you know, that gives you a little bit
of security. Here's my question. My understanding is it good
for five years? Now? I'm thinking they're a dry chemical,
so there's no water involved. So it's a dry chemical,
(12:29):
and I'm thinking it should be longer than that. And
as long as the pressure is good to go, it's
not discharged or anything.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I think we lost him, Danny, I believe so, yeah,
he just disappeared from my board.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah. So you know, an easy answer to that is,
quite honestly, there will be an expiration date stamped on
that particular fire extinguisher. If you have the rechargeable type,
there'll be a dial it the top. It'll show you
where it's charger and if it's charged enough. I think
(13:07):
a lot of different brands are not going to have
a universal expiration date, but check and see if it's not.
I know on some of the newer type where you
say you have the smaller ones, the smaller ones almost
look like an aerosol a can of aerosol paint, and
(13:28):
those are really good. You get an ABC fire extinguisher
and that it has the force of one of those
larger fire extinguishers. Obviously there's not as much in there,
but very very handy, and there's usually an expiration date
on that. So do check that again. If you have
a fire extinguisher with a doll on the top, it's
(13:51):
going to have an expiration date on the base. It's
also going to have where it is in terms of
being charged. And you know, sometimes we start surmising, well,
it's this kind, it should last longer than that. Just
don't do that and just go with what the manufacturer
is actually stating, because they do a tremendous amount of testing,
(14:13):
have collected a lot of data on exactly how long
that thing is functioning at peak performance. You know a
lot of those. You know with the expiration date, it
may work, but not at its peak performance. So let's
get back to the funds. We'll go to Benny. Benny, Welcome,
(14:33):
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Good to hear from you.
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Thank you.
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I have a question. I use something wit and forget
two or three times. The first time I used the
premis and the next time I use the concentrate just
like I say, say it makes it five pars to one.
Used it twice, and I waited about one week and
two weeks and asked in over three weeks, and I
(14:59):
never could see where it was changing. That though black
dark mold is still from a concrete driveway and walk
way and that sort of thing. I never could see
where it was doing any It just didn't seem to
be am I doing something wrong. I'm using incurricularly.
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Just what so you've used it three weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yeah. Yeah, one of them was three weeks ago. One
of them was probably over a month ago.
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Okay, all right. Number one. Number one thing is don't
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multiple multiple times, and sometimes I have found that it
was effective after three days. Yes, sometimes it was effective
six to seven weeks.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Good.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So I always tell the story. And this was right
when I first started talking about Wet and Forget. And
you know, I mean, I trial the things I talk about.
I've used them, I'm satisfied with them. And when that
product first came out, I was going like, yeah, right,
it's going to do this and anyway, so I tried it.
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It worked, and I started talking about and this lady
stopped me at the grocery store one day and she
said that went and forget. I got this white fence
that goes all the way around my yard and I
sprayed that five weeks ago and it's still green. And
I went a breather and I said, well, listen, give
it another week and if it's not gone, you call me.
(16:34):
And she never called, and I ran into her, I
don't know a little bit later after that week expired,
and she told me she goes, you know, it was
about the sixth week, maybe a little bit later. It
I just went out one day and all the green
was gone. And that's a true story. It's fascinating, but
(16:55):
there's also times it doesn't work right. I mean, I'm
not saying that, like, you know, you got a fifty
to fifty shot at it. I'm saying about it. If
the weather conditions when it was applied is really hot
and really sunny, and we spray it on a surface
that's really really hot, there's going to vporate. Yeah, there's
(17:18):
going to be some evaporation that's going to take place.
So if you don't use it when it's kind of
you know, I say coolish, meaning under ninety it's it's
functional after ninety. It's just that you probably got to
put a little bit more on because you're going to
have some evaporation. Ideally, if you were going to use it,
(17:40):
cloudy and eighty degrees is perfect, sonny and ninety five
degrees is less than perfect.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, So maybe and you put it on there for
a while and if the sun comes out it seems
to bleach it out. What because I got part of it,
Will Hundre of canopy where the sun didn't hear it
and there was into the little walter that was out
(18:08):
in the sun. That part it bleached out and did
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Right well, that product works after you spray it on.
It works in conjunction with rain and sun. Right, Okay,
So if you got an overhang and you're trying to
get the underside of that overhang, it's not getting a rain.
It's probably getting a wee bit of sun, but very filtered,
(18:35):
so that might be the cause of it. That's the
one that's kind of holding you up. So it is.
It's the driveway you said though, that wasn't really bleaching out, correct,
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Got thumped straight, So I'm all use the risk of it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, I was gonna say, don't give up on it.
If you want to put another application on it, go ahead.
If you want to wait two weeks and if nothing happens,
go ahead and reapply another application of it. But it's
got a pretty good track record mending. Just don't give
up on it. Then you know it needs the rain
and it needs the sun to keep that active. But
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when it's really sunny and on application day, it could
cost some evaporation just because of the heat and the sun.
All right, thank you much for the call. I appreciate it.
You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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All right back there. If we go at home with
Gary Salivan getting a few things done around the home,
glad you could join me in. Let me give you
the phone number you can jump on board, happy to
talk about your home project again. Our phone number is
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five talking
a little home improvement. And when we were talking about
(22:30):
the weather conditions for application or what and forget weather
conditions always important when you're working with ceilants, cleaners, clocking, paints,
you know, anything along those lines. Always paying attention to
temperature ranges of application, of course when it can be
(22:52):
applied to moist surfaces. But I'll tell you usually this
time of year is like perfect for any type of work.
And that's not only for the substrate but for you
doing the application. It's more comfortable this time of year.
So if you've been putting off, and I know many
(23:14):
people that actually you know, they get excited about it
in the spring or summer, and they buy the products,
maybe they buy the paint, but they never get it
on until full time because then all of a sudden,
the weather's just perfect for application and for you getting
(23:34):
out to get that job done. So again, if it's
over ninety and brilliant sunshine and humid, probably not the
best for any of that. But man, if you get
a day where it's eighty eighty five and low humidity
and nice sunshine, you go for it. It does, it'll
do a great job. So happy to talk to you
(23:55):
about maybe a little deck cleaning and deck ceiling. Of
course that's always big into your painting. It was interesting
I did an interview this past week and the host
says to me, what's going on with paint? I said,
what do you mean, what's going on with paint? It's
so dog gone expensive? Oh yeah it is. It really is.
(24:17):
A lot of places run paint on sale, though, so recommendation.
Maybe wait for it to go on sale. I've seen
it where it's you know, twenty five thirty percent off.
But paint is expensive. There's gowns of interior Latex now
are in the fifty sixty, seventy dollars range. And so
I said, well, paint so much better than it was
(24:38):
just fifteen years ago. Why how, I said, well, you know,
you know, you go back fifteen twenty years ago, paint
was not nearly as scrubbable as it is today. Who cares,
you know, it gets dirty? Just paint again. Well, you
don't have to though something to day's paints. Used to
(25:02):
be if you put a little uh, cleanser on a
cloth and water and scrub, you would burnish the paint.
In other words, you would polish the paint. You could
see where somebody rubbed a cloth on it. You you
burnished it. You made it shiny, not today's paint. Also
(25:23):
when you painted, and there's proper ways to paint, but
back in the day, with the less expensive paints, you
had to really follow it by q. You could make
a W on a wall and then go you know,
vertically and horizontally until you get it to where you
know there's no ridges and you know, want to make
sure it's leveled out and you put a good film
(25:45):
on that wall. Not as hard to do that with
today's paint. You used to have to prime it, wash
the wall, prime it, and then paint it not with
today's paint, gotta wash the wall, don't have the prim
you're more expensive. Paint's got a primer in it. And
(26:08):
the ability for paint to hold its color and not fade,
whether it's exterior paint or even interior paint if you
have a lot of windows, not as much as it
used to be. So paint has improved dramatically. And what
keeps paint from fading in a lot of cases is
(26:30):
titanium dioxide. Titanium, It prevents fading from the UV rays
of the sun, especially on outdoor paints. It's not cheap.
That's what makes paint cover better. Also titanium. So paint
(26:50):
has gotten better. And then just with you know, the
cost of goods and all that. Of course you're going
to have a bump on that. We all know all
about that. But there's been some remarkable, remarkable advances in pain.
It's been dramatic and pretty much. I tell people all
the time I talk to different clubs, I'll say, that's
(27:14):
one project anybody can tackle. You can get that done.
But that's one of the reasons why the cost of
pain has gone up, because it's so much better. And
once you do that and a little tip too. If
you're gonna do the ceiling, start where that ceiling is
(27:36):
the brightest, So paint to the dark corner of the ceiling.
I know that sounds weird, but if you're gonna be
working overhead and it's a decent sized room, your arm's
gonna get tired. If you paint towards the brightest part
of the ceiling, you're not gonna be laying down as
good a coat of pain on her. So always start
where the brightest part of the ceiling is and work
(27:57):
to the darkest point. Work to that dark, shadowy corner
and you'll get a very good looking paint job. And
then the applicator too, no question, that plays an important
role in it. The applicator is based on not only
the thickness of the fibers, so it's called the pile.
(28:22):
You can get a three ace of an inch half
inch for drywall, those would be acceptable. You get into
the five a three quarter inch not acceptable. Too thick.
It's good for cement block, not good for drywall. So
if you're hiring it out, that's one thing. But if
you're going to tackle a job yourself by good paint,
(28:47):
if you got kids, and you're going to hire it
out by good paint, and if you're going to do
it yourself by a good applicator, those are going to
hide maybe your lack of talent, we'll say, but a
good paint, good applicators will really cover up a lot
(29:07):
of mistakes. And colors are so forgiving, you know. It
used to be we would always talk about semigloss satin
flat paints. The flatter the paint, the more it'll hide imperfections.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
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Speaker 1 (29:26):
We used to people when they remodeled or something, and
you had the tape, and you had the drywall nails
and all that, and you had patching and topping. Compound
that first coat of paint, you should put the cheapest
paint you can find. That's usually the flattest. Back in
the day, that was the flat. You could buy it
for five bucks a gallon. It was flat, it looked
(29:46):
pretty good. The next time your paint is not going
to scrub, but go ahead and put a little better
quality on. But now they got the best of quality
that's really flat, so you can so if you get
a pure flat and a nice you know, dark dark
olive green or something, man, it almost looks like Swede.
(30:09):
It looks so good and it hides so many imperfections.
If you got you know, wild and crazy with a
spackling compound and start patching all these holes. You could
hit it with a little you know, a little brush
with some primer on it, but then your self priming
paint with that flat finish. You go over that and
(30:31):
you can't find out where where where the mistakes are,
or where the dings and the dents are. You'll you'll
hide them very nicely. So it is a project I
think you can all tackle in again. When you are
finished painting marking those cans. They're putting them in and
(30:55):
air tight. There's there's one there's a product out there
called touch Up Cup. It's got silicon seal. It's about
six sixteen ounce cup. Pour your touch up paint in
the air and tighten that lit up and I'll tell
you what, if you keep it from freezing, it'll be
good for a long long time. As long as you
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have that color in that wall, I guarantee you. And
it is amazing to me that you can open that up,
that touch Up cup start painting over dings and dents
or chips that somebody did to the wall in the
last ten years and it'll blend right in and it
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never used to. So today's paints are worth so much more,
all right, Our phone numbers eight hundred eight two three
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All right, back here it we go thirteen minutes before
the top of the air talking a little home improvement
in our phone number. If you'd got a question to ask,
it's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
and let's go to Frank. Frank, Welcome morning, Gary Martin.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Uh, I got this white formation on my fore joist
on the back porch, and it's a it's a bad
situation as far as it's no gutta and there's water
hitting that deck all the time. It's an old wood
frame porch and stuff. And I get this white stuff.
I don't know if it's mold, dry rot or what
(35:04):
the heck is stott in below the floorboards on the
side of the joye. Well, they should use to treat it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So it's on the joys and underneath that floor where
the joys are is Are those joys painted or stained
or are they just pressure treated wood or what are they?
Speaker 9 (35:23):
It's just old wood frame, It's not it's just old timber,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well, my guess is it's molding the wood. Is the
wood dense or anything? Or is it rotted? Is it
dry rot?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Not yet?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
I don't think I think it's starting or whatever, you
know what I'm saying the other.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So my guess is, my guess is it's mold. Not
much sunlight down there either, correct, Right? So I mean
there are products that you can use to remove that mold.
I don't know how extensive it is. I guess is
your question is it mold? The only way I would
know if it's mold is if you've got a mold
(36:11):
test kit where you scrape something in and then mail
it out and they can identify the mold. But I'm
guessing it is mold.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
Yeah, I would say so because there's the water conditioned there,
because there's no guts at that end of the house
and it's open ports flooring. But you know what, but yeah,
I think that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Get the sun like like you, So what are you
gonna do?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Well?
Speaker 9 (36:41):
What can I treat it with.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, so you you would like to clean it up then, correct, right, Okay,
there's a couple of there's one for exterior, but it
works in conjunction with the sun and the water. And
I have a feeling where this is you don't have
much of that, correct, I mean you might have water,
but you don't have much sun. So there's several brands
(37:06):
out there. One of the products we speak of a
lot is called Wet and Forget, which is an outdoor
cleaner that you spray on and just forget it and
it gets rid of mold, mildew, fungus, algae. But you
need the sun and the rain to make it effective.
So if you don't have that, they have one called
(37:26):
Wet and Forget disinfectant and mold remover, And that's the
one I think you would use where you would just
spray it down and just follow your directions. I believe
on that one, you after after you spray it down
so long, I think you have to scrub it down
with soap and water to remove the actual stain from
(37:49):
the mold. But that's what I would do, you know,
and you know that'll get rid of the mold which
is going to eat into that wood and eventually comprom
mis the wood. That's how Mother nature removes all the
leaves and sticks and wood out in Mother nature is
with mold. So this will clean this up. But then
(38:10):
the question is it's gonna come back unless you change
the situation, right.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
I'm wondering. Now, agenated bleach.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
You can try that too. You can try that. Oxygenate
bleach would do a good job for you. Yeah, just
use a mask. Don't use don't yeah, don't use chlorine
bleach and water and a little soap. A lot of
people will recommend that, but mold actually can detect chlorine
(38:44):
bleach and when it detects it, it it explodes spores
into the air, which is usually right in your face.
So stay away from that. But oxygen aate bleach would
work fine.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Yeah, I had Usually I used to use the chlorine
chlorine bleached fhere and it seemed like it always came back.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, well it's gonna come back. That's like I said,
that's the way mother nature all works, you know. I
mean that's the way it works. Now with the oxygenated
bleach or that disinfectant and mold remover, that's more of
a complete kill versus chlorine bleach. That doesn't mean it's
(39:27):
not gonna come back. That means it's going to give
you an extra year.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Right, that'll help me because I'm fixing the roof and
I'm gonna put a set of gutters on the back.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Of the house.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
As quick as we get that off, the better off too,
because it will continue to break down that wood. So
that was a very timely call. You get on that
right away. All all right, take care, Frank, Thanks appreciate.
All right, let's Ray Ray Welcome.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Hi Gary, great show. How are you.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Good?
Speaker 8 (40:08):
My question is this About three years ago, we had
a patio installed behind our homes. Not real big, it's
about ten by eighteen ish, and we use these pavers
that are about an inch thick, their exterior pavers. The
crew came in with a bacco. They pulled out all
(40:30):
the topsoil, dug down, put in about I don't know,
at least four inches of base, compacted the base real well.
I was really impressed with the job they were doing.
And then they laid the tiles in an ashlar pattern,
you know, the different sized squares, and grouted it with
this dry grout. I don't know exactly what it is,
(40:54):
but it wasn't wet. They grouted and broomed it in
and then it sets up over time. As you know
the store's moisture, you probably know what it is.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Right.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
That sounds right. This year in northern Cincinnati, as you know,
we've had a terrible drought and a lot of clay soils,
And what I'm seeing now is the the pavers have
settled or shifted just a little bit and there's a
hairline crack that follows the grout line pretty much all
(41:31):
across the patio. So my question is, uh, is there
a way to fix that? But White did not have
to take all the ground out, or am I gonna
have to regrout the whole.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Area?
Speaker 4 (41:52):
You number one, it's not grout, it's it's polymeric sand.
There's a big difference. Okay, So grout is light the
out as the.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Cementatious product that's put in between ceramic tile where it is,
or a sand mix can be like a grouting, so
it's much harder, it's much more, it's much more cementatious.
You have sand with an acrylic polymeric resin in it.
When it is wetted, it stiffens up, it hardens, but
(42:25):
it's not like grout. And the reason they use that
ray is because if that was grout, you wouldn't want
my answer, because my answer would be you got to
get a sawt you got to cut all that grout out.
You don't have to with this, you know. I mean
what I would do is, first of all, I probably
(42:45):
wouldn't worry about it till spring. And then what I
would do is you should be and you can go
out and test this. Now, you go out there with
a chisel or a flat tip screwdriver and see if
you can't scratch a lot of that stuff out. And
my guess as you can. It's stiffened up, but it's
not like concrete, and you can, you can. You can
(43:08):
compromise it, you know, scrape a bunch of at up,
take a shop back, suck it up, sweep it away,
and then just you know, put in some more polymeric sand.
You got some seedtling because of the exact reasons you said,
have a lot of clay, and we had a lot
of spring rains and that swells and then you hit
(43:29):
a drought and it shrinks, so there's movement. It's wobbled.
The papers around a little bit. It's created a crack
and uh so we got to address that, but I
will address it in the uh springtime. In the meantime,
just see how easy it is to remove. So not
as big of a project as you think. So good
luck with that. Appreciate to call if you'd like to
(43:50):
join us in the next hour. Certainly welcome to It's
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. You're
at home with Kerry Salimon.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Time to get your hands dirty with Gary Sullivan. Give
him a call at one eight hundred and eighty two
three talk. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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