55KRC Friday Morning Show -- 12/5/25

Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, Peter Bronson talks his new book "Magical History Tour" plus Sebastian Junger talks about his book "In My Time of Dying" and his Empower U Seminar on December 9th regarding his near death experience.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Five o five by k r C the talk station.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Happy Friday, four day weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Vacation.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
There it is Sean got the memo. Sean McMahon coming
for Joe's Strecker, who late day yesterday realized, well Thomas
keeps saying smoke him if you got amuse him or
lose them because we can't carry over vacation day. So
he declared a vacation day for himself today. So good
have you in, Sean McMahon, sharp for the late notice.
Don't blame anybody, but I'm glad you're able to change

(00:52):
your plans and get up extra early to sit in
the Joe's Direcker production. Boo, good having you there, Sean McMahon.
Always good hearing from you. Five three, seven, four nine
fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three
talk or pound five fifty on AH and T phones
for free to call on something you want to talk about.
Got alarming stuff on here this morning. Uh we got
tech not coming up on the show. Just the articles

(01:13):
I have in front of me. Get it in as
many as I can. It's almost like news dump Friday
on a Thursday. When I was printing off the articles
that I wanted to talk about today and invite you
to discuss anyway. Coming up, it is Friday Tech Friday
with Dave Hatter. We'll be talking about a local family
warning about Venmo scams, this after their personal tragedy. Avoid
artificial intelligence toys. Don't give your kids AI toys, says

(01:35):
Dave Hatter all the time. He's gonna say it again today.
I'm sure he's got more illustrations of why it's a
bad thing to give your kids AI toys. And finally,
iPhone users just don't take these calls. No, I don't
know what these calls are. That's why we have Dave
interest I sponsoring the segment. I enjoy it. It's informative,
it's important if you follow his advice, he'll keep you
out of trouble. Peter Bronson the incomparable Peter Bronson. He's

(02:00):
obviously a renowned author, formerly with the Cincinni Choir. He's brilliant,
he's fun to talk to, and he writes one hell
of a great book. We've got a new one to
talk about. A nice Christmas present. Put it in your
stocking or maybe hand it over to a friend. The
Magical History Tour Murder Mystery, Buried History. That's the name
of the book. Collection of five stories about some wild

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forgotten history here in southwest Ohio and the greater Cincinnati area,
plus what is described as a bonus mystery tour of
ten places to discover. So we'll read about a Wilmington
guy who survived a duel in gold rush California, named
a city in state, and tamed Bleeding Kansas, first serial
killer in Cincinnati, who became the first woman executed an

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electric chair, among the stories in Peter Bronson's book. He's
going to be in studio at seven o five. I
love when he comes in the studio just a. I
can't say enough positive about Peter Bronson. And if you're
looking for a publisher, Chilidogpress dot com check that out.
That is his publishing company. You know you're gonna get
published when you own your unpublishing company. I just got
to point that out. Looking forward to having Peter around.

(03:07):
Sebastian Younger, Uh, he is doing an empower You seminar
on the ninth It's gonna be pretty wild. In my
time of dying, Sebastian Younger's reflection on death and what
might follow. That is the name of the of the
empower you seminar. He had a near death experience, near

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fatal health emergency. Anyway, I've met, actually, I've talked to
folks who have had these sort of post death you know,
come back from the from death experiences before. And you know,
I'm always one of the inclined to not kind of
believe in that kind of thing, but after talking with people,
it's haunting and weird and make might make you reflect

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on the afterlife a little bit. So that's gonna be
a wild conversation. Sebastian eight oh five for that. So
I mentioned the woohoo, and I'm off. Got a four
day week and using the vacation days. Garrett Jeff Walker
covering for me on Monday. I got Dan Carroll covering
on Tuesday, and I'll be back on Wednesday up until
the twenty third, and Rob Ryder mister Cincinnati himself with
his guitar will be here as is tradition for the

(04:20):
Christmas radio show on the twenty third, last day of
the year. For me, here we go. I really don't
know where I want to start, but I've been complaining
and complaining for years and years, but of late a
lot more when all these fraud bilking the federal taxpayer,
the fraud COVID nineteen fraud, fraud of the medicare, We've
got fraud in Medicaid, We've got fraud in anything related

(04:43):
to COVID nineteen relief. We have fraud in Minnesota. This
is one that's kind of been a real bombshell. No
one looking out for fraud, nobody, And it is with
a great concern I saw that there are now a
dozen Publican lawmakers coordinating with the Democrats about supporting the

(05:06):
extension of the Obamacare subsidies, the ones that brought us
to a shutdown, the subsidies that were set to end
to the end of this year by the Democrat's own
hand and owned legislation passed without any Republican support. The
one we kept arguing about, the big Oh my god,
we're going to see real time what the actual cost
of Obamacare is, even for people making a thousand percent

(05:28):
above poverty level still getting a tax subsidy, those are
supposed to go away. Letter titled Common Ground twenty twenty five,
a bipartisan health care framework talks about extending the health
insurance premiums, Dear majority of fun. Here's the letter proposal
can outlining an extension of health insurance premium savings for

(05:51):
American families. Quote. It includes one year of enhanced premium
tax credits with targeted modifications and a second year of
continued health insurance premium savings for American families. Urges leadership
of both chambers to vote on legislation reducing the cost
of insurance by December eighteenth of this year. Now does

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anybody think that there's an idea on Capitol Hill anywhere
that will reduce the actual cost of insurance by December
eighteenth of this year? It urges leadership to vote on it.
Maybe there is something floating around. I haven't seen it.
But reducing the cost of healthcare is different and is
a worthy goal, and I would like to see them
be able to do that. But is different than masking

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the cost of this program, which is exactly what these
subsidies do. People are getting ready to defecate themselves over
the cost of Obamacare because the subsidies are going away
for people making an excess of sixty one to five
or something like that. Yeah, that's reality setting in. It's
a reflection of the failure of the program. Remember that
premium you're paying is well going to be paid every month,

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and then you still have ten thousand, five hundred dollars
out of pocket line ability before you even get any
insurance under it. It's a failed, stupid program. The letter
proposes a two year extension of health insurance Premium Savings
for savings for American families, including a year of Enhanced
Premium Tax Credits eptc's, extension of the EPTC for enrollees

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they write earning less than ready six hundred percent of
the federal poverty level, and a phase out of the
EPTCS for enrollees earning between six hundred percent of the
federal poverty level at one thousand percent of FBL they're
getting subsidies as well, or up until the end of
this year. The proposal in this letter asks for, but

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does not guarantee, a more guardrails to prevent fraud by
implementing something called the Insurance Fraud Accountability Act. So maybe
now here's the reality setting in. I've talked to Matt
Boyle quite a few times from Bright Bart and the
Inside Scoop. On Tuesday and they're at Washington. Beuer chief

(08:07):
Matt Boyle. Actually I talked to him recently. So the
Republicans would be surrendering mid terms if the premiums were
to increase. Here's the real problem politically. Let's be frank
here for a minute. He says, if they don't do
it by December thirty, first, the premiums are going to
go up. It's going to cause chaos. The poll numbers
are going to go down. That's surrender for the midterms.

(08:27):
The smart move for Republicans to do is take the
weapons away from Democrats and push it beyond the twenty
twenty eight election. Well, yeah, it's smart political maneuvering. Much
in the same way. The continuing Resolution the Republicans passed
which led to the shutdown, remember, maintained Biden era spending levels.
That was the thorn and massy side. You guys are

(08:48):
supposed to be whittling down the size of government, not
keeping the funding levels at the same rate. What are
you doing. Well, what they were doing was taking away
the arguments that the Democrats had because any cut in
a continuing Resolution would have caused them to pull their
hair out and oh my god, they're gonna cut this.
They're gonna cut that we can't vote for this. Barber
murber murk.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
They ultimately capitulated so that the tax credits are disappearing.
And now the disappearance of the tax credit has landed
in a Republican lapse. They have to deal with the
expense or the increase in tax premiums. It's gonna cost
millions of people who otherwise wouldn't have been eligible and
shouldn't have been eligible for the tax credits in the
first place. Do oh, I don't know, Maybe vote for

(09:31):
the Democrats, the Democrats who will indeed promise to extend
these tax credit, expand them or make them forever tax credits.
What does that do? Does it fix healthcare? Does it
reduce the cost of health insurance? No, it just covers
that up and it puts the burden on the American taxpayer. Remember,

(09:53):
all this money is flowing into the coffers of the
insurance companies. I thought we all hated them. And then
there's the fraud. Oh really, yeah, I started talking about fraud, right,
that's the problem one of the problems here. So not
only do you have a wrecked system where the premiums
are going through the roof, people are ripping it off

(10:16):
left and right. Government Accountability Office issued this report over
the vulnerability of the Affordable Care Act exchanges, identifying significant
fraud and abuse. Court to the report from the General
Government Accountability Office, preliminary results note preliminary because once they
dig further into this, it's going to get even worse.

(10:38):
Preliminary results from jo's ongoing covert testing covert they were
doing this on the downlow, suggests fraud risks in the
advanced Premium tax credits persist the ones that they want
to extend the federal marketplace to prove coverage for nearly
all of the GAO's fictitious applicants in playing years twenty

(11:00):
twenty four and twenty five, consistent with similar GAO testing
in plan years Are you ready twenty fourteen through twenty sixteen.
They set this up. They were testing the system years ago.
What was done since then to change the program to
prevent this from happening? Absolutely nothing. GORDLERPORTJO conducted undercover tests.

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They created fictitious applicants with fake identities and fraudulent or
never used social Security numbers to see how the federal
marketplace would respond. Over the past couple of years, ninety nine,
zero ninety percent of the fake applicants were approved for
subsidized coverage despite lacking required documentation. They submitted four of

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these fake applicants in twenty twenty four. They created fabricated applicants.
They were approved. They got ABT twenty three hundred and
fifty bucks per month in subsidies that was paid to
the insurers, even though they failed to provide proof of
Soci's security numbers, citizenship, or income. So GAO ramped up
the test for this year. They turned it into twenty
fake applicants, eighteen of them still enrolled as of September

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this year, generating more than ten thousand per month in subsidies.
Just a little test of the system and it failed miserably.
And there's more details to this, but the overall number
of dollars this equates to is astronomical, and the idea

(12:36):
that they're out there using socias security. Get a load
of this one. They looked at federal marketplace data found
more than twenty nine thousand SOCIS security numbers that showed
over a full year of subsidized coverage. This is justin
counter year twenty twenty three. Quote from the article describing
what the GAO report says one number was used so

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many times that had totaled more than twenty six thousand
days of insurance across more than one hundred and twenty
five different insurance plans. That's the equivalent of seventy one
years of coverage tied to one single Social Security number. Houston,
we have a problem five eighteen fifty five care ce

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detalk sation. But let's extend those Let's keep extending those subsidies.
Let's keep hiding the reality of Obamacare. You need a
genuine fix to the healthcare system. And that is not it.
It is the farthest thing from it. Foreign exchange. You're
talking about money. Let's talk about money when it comes
to foreign exchange. That's what it is all about. You
will get your imported car traditionally imported anyway or testless

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service to your expectations, meaning it will be fixed. You
will leave with a full warranty on parts and service.
And the reason foreign exchange is so beloved by the
Thomas household. I have saved tons of money taken my
car to foreign exchange. Plus, I like everybody out there,
they're really nice people. You're gonna get credit customer service.
It's like family. So for me that's a real perk.
But I like the full warranty. I like saving money.

(14:06):
I've saved heap loads of money because they don't charge
what the dealer charges. They charge less, and it is
great autobile service. So whatever kind of car you got,
especially you fellow German car owners, you know how expensive
those repairs have gotten. Well, Foreign Exchange is help help
the out a long way. The number at the Westchester location,
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Speaker 4 (14:38):
Com fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Thank you, don five point twenty two on a Friday
five one three seventy four nine to fifty five hundred
at eight hundred eighty two three talk time five fifty
on eight and t one purse before we get to
the phones. Let me Friday morning and get out of bed.

(15:03):
Bump in the volume. Thank you Sean McMahon for elevating
the stageism of let me kill mister Bobby. Welcome program,
Happy Friday to you. Happy Friday, my friend.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
I tell you what faiths, flag, family, and collective bargaining
you've got there. You always have happiness.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Adding to the list collective bargaining is well, I'm looking
at the call screen information, Bobby, you called to talk
about man buns on a Friday. That's okay.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
It's an invasion, in the Invasion of the Man Bones,
and it's only in certain areas. You go in certain
places you don't see it.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
And I tell you what.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
The other evening, went out with some friends and had
a few cocktails. It was the invasion of the man Bones. Well,
what part of town were you in, Body, Well, I
don't go in within the corporation limits of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I know you don't wonder how un.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Land well it was. It was.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
It was on the outside of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Said, I don't want to Hey your topic, Body, that's
the point.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I want to keep it positive today.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Hey, one of your sponsors, we sent some people in
the last few weeks or one of your sponsors cold uh,
cold weather.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's nice to go inside.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Beautiful clean and uh they had a wonderful time at
a two.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Two three, uh twenty two three, right, Mason, love it
and a great place to get your Christmas gifts. Thank
you for the opportunity for me to, uh like boost
people's interest in that place. I love the owners those
the owners of that store are outstanding people and they
run a tight, great informative ship there. So shoot indoors,
buy guns there and get your ammo Christmas presents all around.

(16:49):
Thank you, Bobby.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Hey, beautiful place to shop. And I tell you what
great people and and I'm the type of person i'd
never say anything and I didn't believe. And I'll tell
you why. It's are good people. It's a good place
to go. You need to take your wife or your
wife needs to take your husband out there. There you
are Christmas shopping. Yeah, there you are.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'm glad you brought him up. It's the time of year, Bobby,
people heading out trying to decide what they want for Christmas.
There's a great option for you, Bob, great option. Beware
the man, bun. Guys, all right, be careful out there.
One thing to happen out there, take care of my friend.
You have a wonderful weekend coming up on five twenty five.
You can call five on three seven four nine fifty
five hundred eight tentity two three talk you do. You

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have local stories, including Cincinni Mayor. I have to have
par Ball who had his car repossessed last year. He
was careless. He says, thank you. Signal ninety nine. She's
out there someplace. If you have a Facebook account, Signal
ninety nine. Just on top of her game on Shenanigan's

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going on in Cincinnati relative to the police department, among
other things, and it's become a regular source of information
for local news as well. Why she's pretty damn or
liable anyway, don't go away and be right back. I
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Speaker 4 (19:26):
Two fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Five thirty fifty five k RCD talk station Happy Friday.
Yeah real quick here Tom is online one moment, Tom,
I had to get this in. Tell me to CPO,
Tanya O'Rourke and Taylor Whider reporting we spoke to since
a mayor have to have probo about the claims. He

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has count them to repossession orders for his vehicles in
the past two count them years again, going over to
Signal ninety nine, Local News citing signal ninety nine as
social media post from the satire page Signal ninety nine.
He has got attention after claiming Parvoll had his car
repossessed in twenty twenty four, now facing another repossession Signal

(20:12):
ninety nine, which she accurately described as a meme and
parody account for first responders. My understanding is she was
a former, if not current, police officer. She remains anonymous,
but anyway, props to her for doing what she does.
I made the mistake of thinking it was a man
one time, and she actually posted a comment in response
that ha haa Thomas thinks I'm a man. Anyway, She

(20:33):
posted on social media photo of the repossession order for
Parvoll's twenty twenty three Lincoln Aviator. The photo shows a
data November six, twenty twenty five, but redacts some other information.
The page claimed this was not the first order to
repossess one of parvall vehicles, and she claimed that he
has actually two repossession orders within the last couple of years.

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So CPO reached out to the mayor, who did confirm
his car was repossessed last year due to his carelessness.
He said he was not aware of an additional issue.
I guess he doesn't know about the other car repossession.
Maybe or maybe not, I don't know. Apparently, Signal ninety
nine has a four dollars and seventeen cent Frickers card
for you if you have a photograph of the most

(21:17):
recent alleged repossession. Anyway, the mayor did say this last year.
Did my carelessness, my auto pay on my car was
not working and as a result, my car was repossessed.
Since that time, I've been in possession of my car.
I am up to date on my payments, and I'm
not aware of any other pending issues. I made a
mistake and I will make sure it does not happen again.
So I don't know if that's a reflection of competence

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or incompetence. I don't know what you can draw from that,
but I got a kick out of it. It'll be
most notably more funny if, in fact two of his
cars got repossessed and she also posted some other information
about his homeowners association and is really having a problem
with his wife because apparently she has quite a presence
on social media and makes a lot of comments to
anyone who dares say anything negative about have to have

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par Ball, Tom, Welcome to the morning show, my friend,
and a very happy Friday to you.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
Well, she's certainly not going to hear anything negative on
this program about the Esteems mayor of Cincinnati, is she.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I don't know. I doubt that she's listening to the
fifty five care Stree Morning Show, but I'm sure someone
who listens, maybe his friends with her. Maybe they'll pass
along a comment or two that I make it's negative
to after have purvol But you know what, Tom, I'm
never going to I'm never going to see her social
media post ever. You know why I don't do social media,
with the exception of happy Friday on Facebook and a

(22:38):
picture of my dog or something like that. That's a
social media as I get, I stay out of the.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Fren listen, don't forget about, don't forget about listener lunch
pictures that there you go, that one that for you?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
No, actually, Rebecca prem GRAPPI thank you. Jim was doing it,
but he hasn't been able to make listener lunches very
often lately. He was at Pricesal Chili on Wednesday. But
he's got some conflicts over his health providers and other things.
Or maybe he just doesn't want to showing up. I
don't know, Jim, you tell me seriously now he's so yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
I think I think right now, Jim as we speak,
is putting together a go fundme page for the Mayor
of Cincinnati. Maybe that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Make his car payment.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, right, help make his car payment. We don't we
hate for the Mayor of Cincinnati. The default on the
car loan. I mean that would just that would not
be a good look for Cincinnati. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, he did, let's man, it's late.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
And yeah, and while while we're bashing people, uh, mister Schreker,
while he's staring at the back of his eyelids. Sean
is filling in admirably, So thank you Sean for showing
up today.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I appreciate it as well.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Gas War's update. The two gas stations at Cincinnati Dayton
Road and seventy five are at two twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
As we speak, yes and and it it is, I
guess us. Now they're waiting to see who's gonna blink again.
I mean last time it was Speedway that but that
was it blinked blunt something like that. Blank, yeah, blink. So, uh,
we'll see how that goes. But the the prices north
of town are at least at that exit are really good.

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They're yours for the taking your your your story about
the uh, the fraud, waste and abuse. It's just another
example of people have the mindset that as soon as
government gets involved, there's a bottomless pit of money. That
that is the the assumption made, and that goes into construction, uh,

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welfare programs, pretty much anything that the government gets involved in.
Oh government, okay, we can jack the price up. Contractors
charge more when they're doing a government job, and and
so forth and so on, and we we have got
to do something about getting getting rid of that mindset.
Republicans aren't doing anything to help that either. They It

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may not be as bad as Democrats, but it's still
I mean, there's Republicans out there that are that are
spending all kinds of money, you know, dropping it like
it's hot, whatever phrase you want to use, and and
and and you know at some point, all this is
gonna come back and bite us. It does every now
and then. And so the political expediency is, let's keep

(25:21):
kicking the can down the road so that this next
election won't hurt us, and then the next election won't
hurt us. And it's it's ridiculous. And you got people
like like Thomas Maskiy and Rampaul that are pulling their
hair out whatever's left of it, and like, guys, you don't,
I mean, don't you get what's going on here? And
and a lot of them probably do. They just they
just want to win that next election. And so, uh,

(25:44):
it's it's very frustrating. Uh we can sit here and
talk about all we want, but until we get people
in there who are willing to feel the pain politically
so that we can get deal with this correctly. Uh,
it's not nothing's gonna change. People are gonna keep trying
kick can down the road. So and you got to
really watch those people who are who are considerably wealthier

(26:07):
after they've been in office than they were before they
were in Uh. Yeah, that usually is a good sign.
That's something nefarious is going on. But everybody wants to
put their hand in that cookie jar. Everybody wants to
taste and oh, it's just government money. There's all kinds
of money. Just print more. Yeah, right, people, that's that's
an insane way of doing things. And because we just

(26:29):
keep running that get up and throwing money at it,
everybody thinks it's fine or enough people think it's fine.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Solutions not fine.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
It has to stop. We got to fix it. There's
lots of solutions, but one of the solutions that we
definitely have to do is make sure don't vote Democrat.
Have a great weekend in time off rank.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Thanks Tom, appreciate it, look forward to it hopefully here
from you on Wednesday. You can feel free to call
five on three seven, four nine fifty five two three
talks then jump into the status tu But yes, I
found a bunch of naked craziness going on the stack
of stupid because Joe's not here and you know what's
going on at night seven pm. Gate of Heaven Cemetery's
place to be. Why because they're doing the fifth annual
Tidings of Comfort and Joy special evening featuring an Advent

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is what it's all about. So get in the mood.
You're gonna hear from the here Advent Christmas music throughout
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a Friday. Why and Judge Record is smiling somewhere out

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there to the extent that's listening, And I don't think
he is. I think Tom is right. He's staring at
the back of his eyelids right now, and good for him.
It's the day off. Throwing caution and his clothes into
the wind. A sixty six year old Minnesota man spotted
outside his own home with a chainsaw while in the
words of the police department, but asked.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Naked party over here.

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Police said the suspect has frequently been spotted naked by
his neighbors. PAULS. Severson charged with disorder the conduct and
connection with the new display outside of his residence in
the city of Lake Crystal. After reviewing multiple interviewing multiple witnesses,
sheriff debut he's observed a nude Severson appear from beside
a shed. Cop advised him that he could not be

(29:13):
naked outside with children around and people driving by. Neighbors
reported that Severson did yard work while nude, with one
eyewitness saying the suspect was chainsawing again while but as naked.
Named in a misdemeanor complained. A couple weeks after, the
witnesses told police that one of their children saw him
naked for the first time as the child rode the

(29:35):
bus to school that morning. What the hell is with
some people? Let's go to Florida for a drunk guy.
Southwest Florida, Florida man moment Corn of the Golf Coast
news Port, Charlotte location. Neighbor heard a bang on an

(29:57):
empty house next door, stepped outside, thinking maybe a raccoon
was involved with this antic instead found a mostly undressed man,
no shirts, no shoes, just loose shorts hanging on barely,
and he was allegedly trying to break into the empty house.
Not only that, but he apparently believed it was his

(30:17):
own house, even though his girlfriend and mother in law
were inside. Guess they were not there because he did
not live there. He actually lived a block and a
half away in a completely different neighborhood. Totally drunk GPS
malfunction of the brain, according to the reporters, tore the
screens off, the windows, pulled so hard on the lini

(30:40):
door the handle and bent. Neighbors called deputies who found
the drum floora man stumbling around the yards, confused and
trying to remember what planet he was on. He didn't
manage to say his name. Once neighbors learned that he
actually lived just around the corner of the only hope
that he stayed in his own home from that point forward. Arrested,

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taking a gentle misdemeanor charge for loitering and prowling. So
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He's going to be talking about that in Empower Youth
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eight oh five. I the meantime over to the stack
is stupid. We got a Kouli la on pour Our
Kalua Lampour where police found what is described as a
man only sex dan after a raid on a health
center Okay where they found two hundred and one naked

(33:10):
men who are alleged to have engaged in what they
described in the police report as unnatural acts. They also
arrested some employees there operating is a health center. And
again in Kuala Lamport, Malaysia, officers reportedly monitoring what is
called the Chow Kit establishment before ultimately rating the place

(33:32):
and finding the naked guys there. Cord to the reporting,
the men range in terms of their professions a teacher,
a prosecutor, a surgeon, a fifty three year old doctor
who told police he only came in there to, in
his words, heal and avoid the after work traffic jam.
That married doctor with kids said, I usually come here
to avoid the traffic after work. I can relax in

(33:54):
the sauna and jacuzzi for a while. I don't want
to comment on what I did, but yes, such activities
do take place here. I suppose that was a reference
to the unnatural acts that the police discovered. Also, they
discovered during the raid dozens of condoms and lubricant. The

(34:16):
men aged and range age range from nineteen years old
to sixty years old, with twenty four men being confirmed
as foreigners. Don't know what that means, but that's according
to Mothership Are, Singapore based publication, the quote unquote health
center did have equipment and facilities that would be used
in what they proceed to be a traditional health center,

(34:38):
which this obviously was not. Saunas Jacuzzi's Jim spat and
swimming pool guests were charged thirty five Malaysian ring it
that's their currency, plus some additional charges. Kuala Lamport, Deputy
Chief of Police to reporters the center attracts many local
and foreign customers, including men from s South Korea, Indonesia,

(35:01):
Germany and China. Eighty musslimen were investigated by the religious
authorities Undersection twenty nine of the Federal Territories Religious Act
were engaging in indecent activities at the center. Oh, they
got their own formul like Shuria law. That's where the
unnatural determination was made according to section twenty nine. I

(35:22):
guess this is an unnatural act. What is this? Use
your imagination? Got another naked burglary? You guy, We get
an naked pass or or with naked pass Grand's Pass, Oregon,
where there's a naked guy involved. Grand Pass Police Department
arrested naked burglary suspect in the morning of November twentieth,

(35:42):
two point thirty roughly got a call from a victim
in the on West Park Street stating an unknown man
in his forties had broken a window was crawling into
the residence. The man described as being naked with tattoos
and saying things like saving them from Hermes and the goddesses.
Thank you. John Well placed. Officers respond to the scene

(36:04):
found the suspect had already fled the residents by the
time they got there with a stolen blanket. Thankfully, the
adult victim and the two children were un harm suspect
reportedly had been injured by the broken glass that when
he broke into the residence. Canine partner Morrow Gotta Love
Dogs located the suspect in a hedge of a neighboring yard.

(36:25):
Suspect initially refused to identify himself, surrendered, placed under arrest
before being transported to the Three Rivers Medical Center to
deal with his wounds. Then he was taken off to
jail Justine County Jail, specifically identified as Patrick Hermes. So
I guess he was saving them from himself and goddesses,
I think drugs were involved again, taking a Justphine County

(36:49):
Jail charge with burglary in the first degree, theft in
the third degree, harassment, and felony. Warren for pearle violation,
no reference to any charges related to his naked state.
Fifty six fifty five KR Seed Talk station, Maureen, if
you're awaken out there? Oh yeah, I did see the report.
We'll talk about Hugo Carvel Hall Barrios and what he said.

(37:12):
He was the Venezuela in general, three star Venezuela and
General Director of Military Intelligence. Mmm. And it involves, among
other things, our voting system. Don't go away, be right back, Hey,
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(37:33):
covering for me this coming Monday and Dan Carol covering
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Mari after purval. Yeah, he had his car repossessed last
year there since the any question about that. It may
have happened twice two different cars. Still waiting for the
evidence on that one signal ninety nine. Again props to you.
She'll probably let us all know and she will have
evidence if we have a photograph of his second car

(38:16):
being repossessed she'll actually give you a gift card worth
four dollars and seventeen cents to frickers. I think anyway,
nice reward anyhow, question out loud, moving aside from the
fact that he did have his car repossessed for not payment,
how many payments do you have to miss before they
repossess your car? Isn't it a lot? I mean, it

(38:37):
just doesn't pull over after you miss one payment and
haul your car away, do they. That's got to go
on for a while. Anyway, Just asking out loud for
a friend, and I don't know if Moreen's listening. My
favorite pattern observer formerly conspiracy theorists, and I've heard many,
many people say that the smartmatic election voting system, compliments

(38:59):
of Venezuela is rigged and it can be altered, and
it is a big problem insofar as maybe elections being rigged.
If you can't count, don't have any confidence in your vote,
and your vote actually can be altered, then you have
a massive failure in the system, and one that can
lead to people, perhaps I don't know, questioning the integrity

(39:21):
of literally everything. So does with that, I turned to
this and it's been widely reported. This isn't just from
some fringe media outlet. Miami Harold and Post and other
sort of accepted generally accepted outlets have been reporting on
this describes as an explosive development. Hugo Carva Hall Barrios,

(39:42):
formerly a three star Venezuela in general and director of
Military Intelligence, issued a confession from prison which seems to
validate a lot of what Donald Trump is trying to
do in Venezuela and the surrounding areas, blowing up drug votes.
We'll get to that in a moment. We know every route,
we know every house, Trump said on Wednesday, talking about

(40:05):
a narco terrorist, and I believe that's right. But anyway,
his statement says the Venezuelan regime operates as what the
General calls the Cartel of the Suns, described as a
state sponsored criminal enterprise designed to weaponize drugs and other
tools against America. Former Michigan Senator Patrick Colbeck characterized the

(40:29):
general statement as turning state's evidence. He said, I absolutely
support President Trump's policy towards Venezuela because it is in
self defense and he is acting based on the truth
the regime. I Hugo Carve Hall Barrios served is not
merely hostile. It is at war with you, using drugs, gangs, espionage,

(40:53):
and your own democratic processes as a weapon. He says,
Trump's policies against maduro criminal regime are not just justified,
but necessary and proportionate to the threat. Now, I will
acknowledge the guy's locked up in prison on charges, okay,
And he seems to admit to the charges he's been
accused of. Maybe he's using this as a vehicle to
try to get some leniency. I don't know, but I'm

(41:13):
willing to acknowledge that potential exists. But here's what he
has to say. Since twenty twenty one, over quarter of
a million Americans have died from Ovidos's Yes ventnyl is.
The reason is the result of a deliberate policy coordinated
between Venezuela Cuba farc ELN and his Balla farc and

(41:36):
ELN far left Marxist Leninist Girla groups founded in Colombia.
His Balla of course, from Lebanon. She had Muslim political party,
militant group as well as a social movement. Says here
the most alarming, perhaps the most alarming point that this
carvel hauled guy made. He directly addresses the election security,

(41:58):
stating unequivocally that Smartmatic, the company whose technology is incorporated
into Dominion ESNs and Heart inter Civic voting Systems, was
created as an electoral tool for the Venezuelan regimes. All
three tabular systems are used in Michigan elections and nationwide. Here,

(42:19):
he says, quote I Carba hall I placed the head
of it of the National Electoral Council in his position,
and he reported directly to me the Smartmatic system can
be altered. This is a fact. Now, he does not
claim that every election is stolen. He doesn't even point
any specific election that has been stolen. He only points

(42:41):
to what he says is a fact that the system
can be altered, presumably the software, the tabulation. He warned
that the software has been used to rig elections, saying
the Massouro regime operates operators maintain current relationships with American
election officials as well as voting machine companies current operators

(43:04):
with Maduro. His confession also exposes the trendy Aragua gang
you've heard of them right, says it's a deliberate export
of Venezuelan state violence. Says he witnessed first hand, Hamaduro
exploited the open border policies to flood America with gang
operators who continue operating under regime orders. The regime I

(43:25):
served is not merely hostile, It is at war with you.
Hum So obviously I mean the voting system allegations, you know,
supportive of what a lot of people have been saying
for a long time, which I have always pivoted over
and said, well, you know what, I hear the claims
that they can be rigged. But every time I talked

(43:48):
to maybe our Secretary of State or other people reporting
on this, no, no, no, they're not connected anything. They
can't be modered or modified or altered. But if there's
a potential, why would we use them. This is why
many people like myself clamor for a paper ballot that
will be and can be kept. You got that here
in Ohio. They collect the ballots. It is artificial or

(44:10):
rather artificial intelligence, or electronically tabulated, but they got the
paper ballots piled high in case something goes wrong with
the system. Now it seems to me you should do
a statistical sampling of all of the ballots, just to
make sure that aligns with the actual tabulation in the system.
I don't know if that's being done, but if this
guy is saying it can be manipulated, the possibility of

(44:31):
that is enough for me to get freaked out. Recognizing
full well on a tear on fraud, waste, and abuse,
and government more and more gets revealed each and every day,
nobody in elected capacity seems to give a crap about
the potential for fraud, waste and abuse, or in this
particular case, whether the election can be modified or altered.
Why would you use a system that can be give me,

(44:53):
please my elected officials those responsible assurances that this is
an impossibility, And I don't know that I've ever heard
that before. So Popcorn definitely out on this one. And
again I will acknowledge you maybe using this for self
serving benefits, but he's gonna have to back up his

(45:14):
words with some facts. And I like to think someone
is looking into this. Someone three seven eight hundred eight
two three pound fight fifty on AT and T phones.
Get a load of this one related to that, not
at all. Now they found the alleged pipe bomber. Right,
We've been looking for this guy forever, While apparently the
Biden administration was not looking for him. According to Panmbondi's

(45:36):
announcement Jesse yesterday, no new information was gathered to finally
catch this guy. This is January twenty What year was that?
How many five years ago? They had this video since then,
and apparently if you just follow the paper trail, on
the video trail, on the electronic evidence trail, you could
find him, and they did. Brian Cole Junior, we still

(45:58):
don't know much at all about this guy than he
was kind of a lone or he's quiet. He kept
to himself. You know, the same kind of statement you
get after some crazy guy goes unleashing violence on a
crowd of people. He was quiet, he kept to himself. Anyway,
the joke and all this and kind of should have
been in the stack is stupid. CNN's Jake Tapper. Yeah,

(46:22):
that guy not exactly an outstanding source of credibility. So
he's doing his show the lead and this information comes
out and he says, quote, Brian Cole Junior, a thirty
year old white man from the DC suburbs is charged

(46:42):
with transporting and explosive device in interstate commerce and with
malicious destruction by means of explosion, which is you know,
unfairly innocuous statement other than the fact, why did he
bring up the guy's race in the initial announcement about
the capture of this guy? So if the guy was black,
would he has said thirty year old black man of
the DC suburbs. Well, as it turns out, the joking
all of this is he is a thirty year old

(47:04):
black man from the DC suburbs. CNN even put pictures
of this guy up right after Jake Tapper said he
was a white guy. Well, it is Jack Tapper six
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avoid AI toys for your kids this Christmas day. Will
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are getting some calls that apparently you shouldn't take Peter
Bronson in studio for the full hour with his brand
new book, Magical History Tour. That's going to be fun.
Five really interesting local regional stories. He always writes about
regional things and a brilliant author and writer. He is
just a wonderful human being generally. So I'm going to

(49:30):
enjoy my hour and studio and I hope you will
as well. That's seven o'clock hour and a man who's
experienced a post death reality in my time of dying.
The empower You Seminar taking place December ninth with my
eight h five guests, Sebastian Younger, who's going to give
us a little insight about that empower you Seminar. Now,
I presume that by now you've heard about the Minneapolis

(49:50):
scam again, going back to fraud, waste and abuse and government. Uh,
if you have the opportunity, the entire op ed piece
from the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal is
a good thing to read. It's the Great Entitlement State
grift subheading the Giant Minnesota fraud shows the GOP reformers
are right. And so they recount all of these eighty
six individuals who've been charged with defrauding Medicaid and the

(50:13):
federal child Upristian program in Minnesota, stealing lunch money from children.
Even one of the defendinsone attorneys said no one was
doing anything about the red flags. It was like someone
was stealing money from the cookie jar and they kept
refilling it. Yes, that is one of the defendant's attorneys
saying that. So after the recount all of this unbelievable

(50:35):
fraud that was going on, and everything was going on,
some illustrations and details about some of the individuals, they
I said, we reported, we have. The Journal reported on
the Biden administration's Medicaid waivers that let states use federal
funds to pay for housing, food, transportation, sports fees, and
even Native American herbal remedies and exorcisms. There's your federal

(50:58):
tax dollars at work. The Biden team wanted to give
states more federal dollars to spend on social services without
having Congress appropriate the money. Welcome to COVID. Nineteen trillions
of dollars thrown out into this system without any oversight.
Now here's where the problem runs. And I think we
probably had this problem going on the state of Ohio.

(51:18):
Medicaid spending runs on autopilot, like Medicare and Social Security.
Most states get between one and nine federal dollars for
every one dollar they spend on the program. Now, what
do you think that's going to lead to this large
federal match? Is a disincentive to police fraud? Yes, of

(51:39):
course it is. How much more hasn't been uncovered because
nobody looked, great question in how many different programs? Democrats
flaying the mess in Minnesota on the rush to distribute
COVID relief, they say, you know, that's doubtful. Federal and
state prosecutors in New York this year have charged dozens
of companies for fraudulently building medicaid, for driving beneficiaries to
appointments never occurred, or for it inflate mileage of the trips.

(52:01):
Trump's been highlighting the alleged Minnesota scammers and the fact
that they're ethnic Somalis, and it is true the Journal
points out that Minnesota's generous welfare state has become a
magnet for Somali immigrants. But good point they're making. The
main problem here isn't ethnicity or migration. Its incentives for
indolence and fraud at the heart of the welfare state.

(52:23):
All that free money with few guard rails is an
invitation to theft. They point out that the GOP tax bill
made modest reforms to reduce fraud, like requiring states to
verify Medicaid eligibility twice a year, putting states on the
hook for a share of the improper food stamp payments. Democrats,

(52:45):
of course, opposed both of those and called them cruel
efforts to faredout fraud, waste, and abuse. Describe as cruel
and here's the point and props to the Journal for
saying it out Loudocrats won't acknowledge fraud because they want
more Americans on the dole welfare central to their political

(53:07):
business model. Republicans who make this scandal about immigration or
missing the point and missing an opportunity to educate Americans
about the entitlement state grift. So I brought it up
in the context of those Obamacare supplements that Republicans are
now considering extending because they're fearful they might lose the

(53:28):
twenty twenty six elections, the midterms. Because oh, they're cruel, cruel,
because they're taking people getting a subsidy that make one
thousand percent of the poverty level, cruel, because they're just
following through with what the Democrats did and putting the
expiration date of this end of December on the bill
that they passed by themselves. And I understand the strategy

(53:50):
of trying to give these keep these supplements in places
I pointed out in the last hour. You know they're
going to use that as a weapon against Republicans in
the battle for November. That's the reason that they passed
the clean cr and left it at Biden level spending.
We don't want the Democrats to have an argument this
is the same argument that some Republicans are making. Now

(54:10):
let's give them the supplements for a year or two,
they won't be able to say we're taking away supplements
from well, what one could argue are rich people like
those making one thousand percent of the so called poverty level,
which I think is like thirty five hundred dollars here
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my friend, Happy for.

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Right, Happy Friday, Brian, Always good to.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Be here, always good to talk to you. Let's start
with this local fan. You get a local story on
a Venmo scam. I don't do Venmo, so I guess
I'm in a probably a good place for staying the
hell away from those types of software apps.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
You know, Brian that's a I think that's a good
place to be. I don't use for any of these
things either. And I want to start out and just
tell people when you use any of these sort of apps, right,
especially if you don't understand the terms of service, and
you know, those are usually difficult to understand, kind of
it confused opoly and that sort of thing, you are

(56:40):
putting yourself at substantial risk because in most cases you
have little and or no protection whatsoever. You know, when
you use a credit card, there's some consumer protections around that.
That's why, you know, people that understand finance will usually
tell you even though you have to be concerned about
the debt component, you know, don't overspace, and it's better

(57:00):
to shop with a credit card because you have some
consumer protection versus.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
A debit card.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
With these digital payment apps, you off zero consumer protection whatsoever.
And you know, many many people have lost enormous amounts
of money. So my advice is always to folks, and
I get you know, my kids love this stuff. I
try to talk them out of using it. I had
very little luck there, Brian, And I'm I'm sure you

(57:25):
might might know when when you talk to your kids
about these things. Although I know your son is fairly technical.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
He can handle it. Yeah, I just have to interject
because she is listening, and good luck mom. Mom will
be taking her first Uber ride today that she arranged
for to her lunch appointment, so or she will be right. Yep,
she's not nervous about the ride itself. She's not worried
for her safety. But this is her very first foray
into the into Uber. But that involves an app, which

(57:55):
she of course had to put on her phone. I
think my son put the app on her phone for her.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Well.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
And you know, the thing is, Brian, if you don't
understand how to configure these things. And there was some
issue with NMO years ago where like every transaction you
made was public by default, so if someone knew what
they were looking for, you know, they could find pretty
much all the money you spent. I'm not saying that's
necessarily bad, but do you really want that information out there?

(58:22):
And you know, could that be valuable to bad guys
in some way to say, okay, you regularly do this thing,
We're going to send you an email, carefully crafted phishing
email or text that's designed to look like it came
from this place that you know, interact with on a
regular basis. Oh there's a problem with your account. You know,
it's so important for people to remember the bad actors

(58:44):
in almost all of these cases are really just professional
con artists who are now reaching you through technology. They'll
tell you any lie, they'll say whatever they have to say.
You know, they'll in some cases these search you so
they know what to say, they know how to say it.
They'll pivot to any topic as soon as you try
to start to question what they're telling you. So, you know,

(59:06):
I understand the convenience of something like menmo, I really do. However,
I just there's so much risk because people don't understand
how to configure these things correctly. They don't understand what
they're up against in terms of the todd artists that
are out there constantly scamming people for this stuff. And again,
you have little to no consumer protection. So if you

(59:26):
somehow make a mistake and your money is gone, I
can almost guarantee you when you call your bank are
going to say, so let me get let me see
if I understand this correctly, you authorize this transaction.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Sorry, you're out of luck, period. And the story yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
It's really, you know, until this stuff gets a lot
more mature, and until people are much more knowledgeable about
the scams that are out there and how these things work,
and or until there are more consumer protections when you
use these types of payments. I would strongly encourage you
to stay away from these things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Well real quick here, Yeah, stay away from them, to
avoid the scams that can go along with them. Briefly,
because in the interest of time, how exactly were people
scammed on this? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
In this in this particular case, Uh, somebody's house burned down,
and then scammers set up take profiles and sent out
you know, hey, help this family, and you know, the
money went somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Oh, using a venmo mechanism to make the donation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yes, so I wanted the tips here. You know, donate
to Venmo Charity Council, which have been em vetted and
verified and they actually have a site that moo dot
com slash charities. But you know, even that, if you
don't know about that site, anyone can can create fake reviews,
Anyone can claim to be a charity. You know, anyone
can copy something that looks realistic. So folks just be

(01:00:57):
careful and or you know, don't use. If you want
to donate to a charity, go through someone like the
Better Business Bureau to look it up and say is
this a legitimate charity. You know, scams are everywhere, especially
this time of year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Brian, especially this time of the year tech scams and
you know, as well as just simple porch pirate scams.
This has gone through the roof as well. I don't
know how you avoid that, but I mean, if you
have a videos set of system set up in your
house like we do, you're gonna have obviously the video
of someone stealing it off your porch, but you're going
to be able to find them, identify them, and get

(01:01:31):
your property back and just report it to the police.
And that's probably in the end of that too. Can
keep your eyes. Don't have the resources to go after
all of it, no, of course, not if they can't
go after people who violated the terms of their ankle monitoring.
I doubt they're going after the guy who's the porch
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Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Haha, Yeah, I'm sure this is a shocker. And you know, Brian,
I would go a step further than just the AI toys.
Oh that's in the headlines now, and I know we've
talked about this recently, but the whole idea of internet
connected toys are not new, and I mean digital flash
electronic toys have been around for a long time. You know,
as a kid from the late seventies and early eighties,

(01:04:19):
I can remember like Teddy Ruckspin and the Little Professor
and all these, you know, toys that were digital. But
obviously there was no practical Internet for the average person
at that time, so you didn't have to worry about
is your kid in their room talking to some stranger
halfway across the world.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yeah, well, pul our age. Remember the g I. Joe's
and the six million dollar Man figures. You had to
pull a chord. You pull a cord and it had
a recording inside it that would play. Yeah, okay, like
to reveal my age, go ahead, Dave, I'm sorry, quite.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
The advanced tech back then, but you know when your
kid was using one of these, like I had this thing,
you may remember this. It looked like a little Robtons.
I think it was called XL eight or something, and
it played educational eight tracks where it would it had
like four buttons and it would ask you a question
you would pick from one of these buttons, but it
would also play regular eight tracks. I could remember playing

(01:05:14):
the teen Simmons solo album on it. But anyhow, yeah,
I mean it was it was very advanced for its time,
especially for like an educational toy. But again it couldn't
connect to anything else. The content that you could access
to it was limited to whatever content was on these tapes.
And you didn't have strangers halfway across the world watching
your kid at night through the camera and listening to

(01:05:36):
your kids through the microphone. So you know, these IoT
Internet of things, so called smart devices have been embedded
in toys now for probably a good decade. There was
a big kerfluffle over like an internet connected Barbie at
one point, and you know, there had been numerous examples.
If you go out and looks of all kinds of toys,
some fairly one of the manufacturers that were Internet capable

(01:06:00):
that have had issues. But whether it has AI in
or not, I would just rely Folks, if you give
your kids some kind of toy like this, a your
ability to control what they do through it versus let's
say a phone or a tablet or a computer is
probably little to none. The ability to understand what they

(01:06:20):
have done on it previously probably little to none. Do
you know how to set it up? Do you know
how to make sure it's getting software updates so that
in the future, bad guys can't exploit of some sort
of utterability that either affects your kid or potentially affects you,
because let's say you might be working from home and
these devices are connected to the same network, and they

(01:06:42):
could perhaps be exploited to get to your devices. So
that all of that stuff is not new right now,
you're throw in the angle that some of these toys.
You know, it might look like a Teddy bear or something.
It's the modern version of the Teddy ruckspin, And now
it connects to some AI chatbot or something, and your
kid can interact with this thing, talk to it, you

(01:07:02):
know whatever. Do you really want the conversations your kid
is having with this thing permanently recorded? If you are
a neighbor, do you want your kid going to the
neighbor's house and having a conversation with the kid. Now
your kid's conversation is recorded. The parents' conversations are recorded,
you know, and when I see recorded, I'm not saying

(01:07:23):
the audio necessarily, although that might be, but certainly the
interaction is going into the LLM model somewhere. And then
there's the whole as these consumer advocates put it out,
issue of Okay, you know, the kids starts asking about
things you'd rather than not ask about. Again, you're not
going to have any visibility into this over time like
you might if they were on a computer. Maybe, And

(01:07:46):
you know, as researchers have seen now, many of them
have tried to push the limits to see what these
things would say. But you know, they talk about sex.
In one case, I think we talked about this last week.
The guy was purposely trying to see what it would
tell him, and they started asking about dies. And the
thing is telling what he the AI thinks. It's talking
to the extended things. It's talking to a kid and

(01:08:06):
telling them, you know where to get knives in their house.
So you know, the idea that you're going to buy
these things and give them to children, to me just
seems completely insane.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Job abuse.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
It's all of the other smart smart device, Internet of
things risks that come along with it, and now you're
going to add in the potential airis on top of it.
I think it's just it's crazy. There is no chance,
you know, I don't have kids or grandkids that would
be in an age range where I would buy something
like this, But there's I would not even consider it,

(01:08:40):
and I would as again we are today. I'm trying
to talk to people out of or at least you
should vet something like this incredibly carefully right by it,
but I would tell you no chance, do not buy something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Well, and given the knowledge you passed along all of
it very factually based and well documented, with incident after
incident after incident, and of perverts out there telling your
children to cut themselves or film themselves naked or whatever,
I would think it's it is, you know, undeniably an
act of negligence to give your children access to one

(01:09:12):
of these types of devices. Yeah, it's the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Less so called smart devices you have in your environment
for people in any age, the better because the incentives
to the consumer are completely backwards. These things are made
to be easy to use, you know, the manufacturers want
speed to market, they want market share, they want revenue.
They're not focused on your privacy and security. And in
many cases, you know, your privacy is being violated, at

(01:09:41):
least in a general sense, because they want to collect
as much data from you to monetize it because that
helps offset the cost of the product and creates ongoing revenue,
you know, above and beyond whatever you paid for the device.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Yeah, collateral damage to your children, be damned. We want
our data. We don't care about you know, perverts out there,
getting in touch with them. Moving Dave back. Apparently Apple
is warning its iPhone users about some well calls that
you shouldn't be taking. So we'll bring that back next.
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need to have in this segment about Apple, which is
normally a high, higher level security thing. But I just
wish these criminals would put as much effort toward legitimate
enterprise as they do to ripping us all off, but

(01:11:17):
apparently ripping us off as far more lucrative. What's this
is a pretty complicated one from my perspective there, Dave,
so explain this to us, this targeted attack thing.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Yeah, so Forbes recently reported on this, and they're not
the only ones. Again, Apple has put out warnings and
it's it's so important because this is a recurring theme.
I mean, as far back as I can remember, these
kind of scams have been rampant, but apparently now they're targeted.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Towards Apple users. Saw let's read real quick from the
Forbes article, a new alerts an issue to attackers unleas
quote and genius Apple service hos unquote convincing users that
account is under attacked. It came to light via Apple
Insider and the guy who reported on it there, who
said he quote almost lost everything for this email, entire
digital life to the most sophisticated fishing attack he'd ever seen.

(01:12:07):
So basically what happened is he got a text that
appears to be from an Apple. Now I've said this
a million times to you and anyone that will listen, Brian,
it is incredibly simple to create a spoofed text. When
you hear the term spoofing in this context, it means
creating something could be an email, could be a website,

(01:12:27):
could be a text message, could be a call from
a phone number. It looks legitimate to the naked eye,
but it's fake. So he gets a text that looks
like an MSA code, Then he gets another text, and
then he gets a phone call claiming to be from Apple.
So these look like someone's trying to log into his account.
So that's the first angle, right, the spoofing. Now the

(01:12:49):
second angle, social engineering. Hey, it looks like someone might
be trying to log into your account because you're getting
these multi factor authentication codes you did not initiate. So
they setting you up to say, well, yeah, I saw
these codes. Well this is Apple Support. Looks like someone's
trying to hack your account. We want to help you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Okay, well pause, pause, pause, okay, real quick. First off,
if I got that the code that I didn't ask for,
I got the code, which meaning the bad guys didn't
get it, it's on my phone. I would just delete
that and move on with my day. Second, to your point,
you get a call from Apple, Dave, how many people
do you think have an Apple device in the world? Ah,

(01:13:33):
and do you think they have a support staff, whether
it's in pun Job or Quiland, poor or anyplace else
in the world, that can handle calling each individual Apple
phone user to let them know that there's a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
No, no, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Are they monitoring it real time? On our behalf? Would
they ever make a phone call.

Speaker 9 (01:13:51):
To you or I? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
You know, Brian, you asked the question, are they monitoring
at real time? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Are they?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Absolutely not? And you know Apple has said, as has
Google and Microsoft and others. You know so from an
Apple press release, Apple says, don't answer suspicious calls or
messages claiming to be from Apple. Instead contact Apples directly
through our official support channel. Google has said the same thing.

(01:14:21):
Microsoft has said the same thing. You know, the FBI
will tell you the same thing. Attacked again, this is
from the Forbes article. The FBI is very clear on
this as well. Quote know, the legitimate companies will never
call you and offer you text support out of the blue.
If you get a call like this, hang up. No,
they don't have the resources to do this. They're not
You're not going to get a call out of the blue. Now. Again,

(01:14:44):
this has this extra twist. It's not just a phone
call telling you there's a problem with your computer, your
phone or whatever. They have sent text be legitimate messages
with security codes from Apple or Google fill in the
blank right in this case to catch you off guard.
So when you get that call from the continent artist
somewhere in a third world country who wants to get

(01:15:06):
into your Apple account, knowing that that will probably eventually
lead to your bank account and your entire digital life.
That that guy says, because you know, if I can
get your Apple ID and I can take over your
Apple account, I can lock you out of it, and
then I essentially have unlimited time to try to get
into all your own accounts. Now I'm in there, We'll
send the reset code for email all that stuff, right,
because people will. I don't think they often connect the

(01:15:28):
dots that if I get an account like your Apple
account or your email account, once I'm in your email
account and lock you out, I can just go through it. Hey, look,
you've got a password reset from Amazon, you got a
password reset from Fifth Third Bank. I'm going to ask
for a password reset. It's now coming to me because
I'm in control of your email account. Once I reset

(01:15:49):
the password on your bank account, guess what, I just
stole all your money. So again, I don't think people
often think far enough ahead to connect the dots of
what it would mean to have their email compromise. In
today's world, where everything is connected to that. It's one
of the reasons why it's better to have more than
one email account, so that maybe the stammy stuff, the
less important stuff, is going to a different account than

(01:16:11):
the really critical one so that you can protect it
very carefully. But again they're setting you up here with
these fake texts. I can write a program that will
just generate fake messages like this all day long, billions
of people day law yes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Hoping that day you've convinced me. I'm just praying to
God that at least one person today got enlightenment from
you and saves themselves from themselves and doesn't fall prey
to these kind of crazy hoaxes because there is a
there are a multitude of them. Thank you for bringing
them to our attention every Friday on Tech Friday, Dave Patter,
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and I hope you have a fantastic weekend. My friend,
always my.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Pleasure, Brian, send to you and all your listeners, and
I'll look forward to next week.

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the book. It's in my hand right now. Thank you
Peter for signing my copy. This is five short stories.
Now you've done other books, and you elaborate and you

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go on at length about some period in history, the
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Speaker 10 (01:20:01):
Man who saved Cincinnati?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
This and when I call a book a bathroom book,
I use that as a compliment because you can kind
of pick it up. Yeah, through part of it. You're
not making an entire novel, and you're done with that segment,
so we can kind of call it this. Maybe the
stories are a little longer than your traditional bathroom book,
but five different stories. So how did you like whittle

(01:20:24):
it down or how'd you come up with these stories?
Because the details I have are really fascinating and kind
of strange too, Like the first serial killer in Cincinnati?

Speaker 11 (01:20:33):
You know, yeah, who knew upon that one? That's kind
of the theme or the niche I have is who knew?
Who knew that Cincinnati was attacked by Confederates?

Speaker 10 (01:20:42):
Who knew?

Speaker 11 (01:20:42):
The first serial killer in Cincinnati was a woman and
in nineteen thirty eight, and she probably killed more than
a dozen people before they caught her.

Speaker 10 (01:20:51):
And the story of her trial is fascinating.

Speaker 11 (01:20:54):
One of the things that's a good highlight of how
these stories work and how one leads to another. While
I'm researching her, I looked at the prosecutor or handled
her case. I thought this guy sounds kind of interesting,
so I dive in and look at him. His name
was Dudley out Cult. The out Cults were a long time,
very well known group of lawyers. They were active in

(01:21:15):
the party and the politics and as prosecutors and judges. Well,
this guy, it turns out, flew with Eddie Rickenbacker and
World War One. Yes, and then he was a member
of Rickenbacker's pit crew at Indianapolis five hundred races. I mean,
in this you just find one person in Cincinnati history
and I'm going, wow, that could almost be another's. Yeah,

(01:21:39):
and then I find out not only that but his father.
One day, he dropped his father off at his office
where he had a law office, never saw him again.
He vanished from the streets of Cincinnati. This is a
highly respected, well known leader of the Republican Party in
Cincinnati who just kind of gone in an instant, And

(01:22:02):
for months they had people that thought they saw him
and so forth. It's just another mystery, and that's packed
in there. But the main story there is, of course,
the serial killer. And this is before the term serial
killer existed, right, Yes, yes, it was never used in
relation to her. She was known as the black Widow.

(01:22:23):
I'm told that people who work in the Handling County
Prosecutor's office or the police department many are familiar with
this case because it's one that they point to as
one of the more sensational interesting cases, and it was
really also one of the first cases in America that
was solved with the aid of medical forensics. Cincinnati was

(01:22:44):
at the forefront the cutting edge of pairing up with
the University of Cincinnati had a division there, a group
that was interested in medical forensics and trying to solve
cold cases and crimes using medicine, and they did in
this case.

Speaker 10 (01:22:58):
It's really a fascinating story.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Now did that develop into I know, we have medical
forensic teams for the police now, but that was this
case instrumental in establishing that as a regular thing. Yes,
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
It was.

Speaker 11 (01:23:11):
It was the first time that they really applied this
kind of science to a murder investigation, and it was
so successful that that continued. So Cincinnati was really paving
the way for what we know today as CSI.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Well, Harmonica Black would kind of suggest, I imagine what
her modus operandi was, but what she married guys and
then killed them, is that what this is?

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Yea?

Speaker 11 (01:23:32):
Or she would flirt with them, and her victims were
almost always elderly German men, lonely widows or men who
never married who were lonesome, and they would tell their friends, Oh,
I got this new girlfriend.

Speaker 10 (01:23:47):
She's really something.

Speaker 11 (01:23:49):
Before you know it, they've signed over their house, their
savings account, just so sad, and then she would go
cook for them.

Speaker 10 (01:23:58):
Real is their big mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Wanh wah wah wah. Poison was big, killing people way
in the back of the day.

Speaker 11 (01:24:04):
Absolutely, and you can in her case, she used arsenic,
which is undetectable. You can't smell it, you can't taste
it in food. And uh so what would happen is
these guys would suddenly get terribly, terribly ill. Oh the
worst way to die, just excruciating and horrible, and then

(01:24:24):
she'd move on to another victim. She would have sometimes
two victims going at once, no kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Yeah, And you know you say that, it's almost as
if I just you know, I'm talking to Dave had
it with a modern scam, because that kind of stuff
goes on today. They just use artificial intelligence and in
computer programs and you know, dating apps to to do
this type of thing.

Speaker 11 (01:24:43):
Yeah, and she would have been undetected had she not
poisoned a man who was a shoe repairman a shoe
salesman downtown and Cincinnati. He owned his own business, another
elderly German man, and she got talked him into going Denver,
Colorado with her, and on the way out on the train, she.

Speaker 10 (01:25:03):
Poisoned him as well.

Speaker 11 (01:25:05):
And the people in Denver noticed when he got off
the train that she was taking care of him, and
then she later claims she never knew him, so.

Speaker 10 (01:25:12):
They got interested. Well, I'm not going to give away more.

Speaker 11 (01:25:14):
No, no, no, it's really a fascinating story of the
detective work and the trial.

Speaker 10 (01:25:20):
So it's a little bit of a courtroom procedural.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Too, all right, And that would be the fourth story
in the book, Big Tom and the Black Widow. Big
Tom that the lawyer you're referring to.

Speaker 11 (01:25:30):
No, Big Tom was the detective and he was one
of Cincinnati's most famous detectives. There's probably nobody can touch
him for the number of cases he handled and solved.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
He was just an amazing guy. Tom Ferriger, how about that? Well,
learn about Big Tom and the Black Widow. The name
of the book Magical Mystery to Her Murder Mystery Buried History,
five short stories by Peter Bronson. My Guests in the
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That'd be chapter one of the book. Let's scratch the
surface of that little diddy.

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Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
One of the things that's fun about short stories is
I got to explore a bunch of different styles. So
I have a core room, procedural, I have a murder mystery.
I have an adventure in out west on the Oregon Trail.
I have and then this one would be described more
like a horror story like Tales from the Crypt, literally
tales from the Crypt, because back in the eighteen fifties

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and seventies, grave robbery was a really big problem. People
would plunder graves and in this case, they robbed the
grave of John Scott Harrison, who was the son of
William Henry Harrison, our ninth president.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Okay, so this is a huha, this is someone of significance,
and they yes, they took was this for medical research?
I know, to do studies. It was impossible to get kidaverage,
so they would rob the graves and provide them to
the medical students.

Speaker 9 (01:28:46):
Got it.

Speaker 11 (01:28:47):
And usually they would rob the graves of the what
they called the colored cemetery, or they would go to
the poor people's cemetery and the Potter's Field, and they
would take those because most people were too They didn't
have influence.

Speaker 10 (01:29:00):
There's significance enough to complain and make it stick, or
in the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Case of potters Field, no money, but also maybe no
living or available relatives to even make a claim over
the body. So no wrinkles that are going to follow up.

Speaker 10 (01:29:10):
Yeah, so they would actually rob these bodies.

Speaker 11 (01:29:13):
In this case, this was not only the son of
a president, but he was the father of another president,
Benjamin Harrison. So he is the son and the father
of US presidents. And they robbed his grave on the
very night he was buried.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Well, didn't you have to get him close in time
to death otherwise you're just bringing in a rotting exact.

Speaker 11 (01:29:32):
You're right, they tried to get him fresh, as they
would put it in this case. You know, a little
side note of this was it answered a question I've
often had when I went through cemeteries or drove by
him about those little mausoleums that looked like little banks.

Speaker 10 (01:29:47):
Oh yeah, you had the bars on the windows and everything.
Well that was because a grave robbery.

Speaker 11 (01:29:52):
Oh wow, you know, so you would you would fortify
when you put somebody to rest, you would try as
much as to your ability to fortify that and make
it impossible to steal the corpse. In this case, they
hired the Pinkerton Agency out of Chicago to try and
find out what happened to John Scott Harrison, and they

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traced it to a report that came in in the
newspaper that that very night, around three am, a wagon
pulled up in front of the Ohio Medical School and
unloaded a long sheet wrapped object. So, the son of
John Scott Harrison goes to the Ohio Medical School. They

(01:30:36):
finally find his body and it's hanging in this shaft
with a winch where they would bring it up from
the ground floor seven stories up, and it's hanging there
on a rope hidden in the shaft.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Well, okay, he'll be out of this. They did that
and hung him in a shaft for the purpose of
hiding the presence of the body. Yes, there's no other
reason for the seven storage.

Speaker 11 (01:31:00):
So when you go up these stories in the Ohio
Medical College, which is would have been right about next
to the Cincinnatian Hotel is today and in fact, well anyway,
I don't want to get distracted here. But okay, so
they find this body hanging in the shaft and his
own son discovered it, and it was so grizzly. He
had been stripped of his clothes, he had been bled out,

(01:31:22):
so they had cut his neck and so forth, and
just hanging there. And when they get up to the
seventh floor, I mean, the scene was just appalling because
they would keep thats of these body parts around and
corpses much longer then really was hygienic or safe. And
the stench, oh my gosh, it would it would knock

(01:31:46):
you right over. And they described that when they when
they got up there to find the body, and those
are the conditions.

Speaker 9 (01:31:53):
That the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Decompositioning doctors and doctors would work in or surrounded that stension.

Speaker 10 (01:32:00):
Uh horrible.

Speaker 11 (01:32:02):
Oh, they had lost any kind of respect for the dead, right,
They just abused these corpses and just treated them horribly.

Speaker 10 (01:32:11):
And that was exposed.

Speaker 11 (01:32:12):
And you know, during these periods in the eighteen hundreds,
they were not unusual to see riots in big cities
when people would find out that their loved one was
in the medical college without permission. And it happened in
New York City where a man was walking down the
street and they were actually doing a dissection in the
window of the medical college there, and it was his
wife who had just died. Oh my lord, and he

(01:32:35):
found that and they had a riot and they burned
that medical college. So this was this was outrageous and
it was a huge scandal in Cincinnati. But it's also
a story of this vast network of grave robbery that
was going on in Cincinnati, and they were supplying bodies
all over Ohio, but also up in Michigan to ann Arbor.

(01:32:56):
The University of Michigan was getting its corpses for their
medical school from Sinati.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
So it was a regional organized crime unit designed to
get medical students dead bodies exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:33:05):
And not only that, the grave robbers would also strip
the bodies, and this is really kind of icky. They
would sell the clothes, so if you went to go
buy bargain clothes, you might be walking around in something
that was only hours before worn by a corpse.

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Bleuss for his books, they are absolutely wonderful. Re to
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about that it's like some well places where you can
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the end of this discussion. But let's talk about a
sneak in the garden. Peter, Oh, that was a lot
of fun too. So a long time ago I visited
because I was working at the Inquiry at the time,

(01:35:31):
I think, And I visited the Whitewater Shaker village because
they were just then beginning the restoration of it, and
it was fascinating to see how these people lived. For example,
when you go to their cemetery, which is right down
the road from the village where they lived. The Shakers,
they had the cemetery and it's probably I don't know,

(01:35:52):
three acres two acres. It's a pretty big cemetery, but
there's only a dozen graves there, and.

Speaker 11 (01:35:57):
You're like, what is going on here? Well, they believed
in celibacy, and they really didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Think ahead that you don't populate a cemetery if you
don't populate the children in the you know, in the village.
I was Communists believe in celibacy. O, Hey, this is
this is an amazing thing. Funny.

Speaker 11 (01:36:17):
You should bring that up because in the middle of
this cemetery it says the Whitewater Shaker Cemetery is dedicated
to a community of celibate Christian Communists in no way, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
And this was put up in nineteen I had the
god folks, I did not know that you really said that.
Oh you nailed it back then. See what happens.

Speaker 11 (01:36:37):
Yeah, communism kind of meant something else then, because Marx
and Engels were just kind of contract.

Speaker 10 (01:36:45):
This was a communal living.

Speaker 11 (01:36:46):
Like they thought that there would be utopias if everybody
shared everything. So in the Shaker village they really practiced
that along with celibacy. So here's a funny little thing.
In their dormitory. They had the women's sleeping arrangements at
the west end or the east end, and the men
at the west end, and just a hallway between them. Well,

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you know, you'd think for the trials of celibacy, you'd
at least put them on separate floors, But no.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
It sounds like it invites a panty raid. You're gonna
go raid the women's storm tonight.

Speaker 11 (01:37:19):
Well, it's interesting that one of the rooms in the
women's Storm had locks on both sides of the door.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Oh all right, yeah, they anticipated that might happen.

Speaker 11 (01:37:27):
And there's also a story I found that they used
to spread flower on the floor in the hallway, so
if anybody walked from one dorm to the other, they
would leave tracks, and the next morning you'd see which
they went to, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
No wonder, they aren't around anymore. Not only you had
the whole celibacy they're working against them. That's not exactly
a marketing scheme that's going to, you know, bring in
the fellow travelers as it were.

Speaker 11 (01:37:52):
No, but if you take a look at the Shakers,
they were really in a lot of ways during that
period and especially around the Civil War, they were this
the only safety net or social safety net we had
because there was no homes for widows and orphans, there
were no places that no social security. But the Shakers
for widows and orphans and women who had gotten in

(01:38:14):
trouble or what we'd called today back then they would.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Call l violated the celibacy rule.

Speaker 11 (01:38:20):
Yeah, so they would be taken in by the Shakers.
So whole families were taken in. And there's another fascinating
story about the Millerites, which is a diversion, but it's
in the book. And this was a cult in the
eighteen hundreds that followed a man named Miller who believed
that he knew the exact day and date of Christ's return,

(01:38:43):
and they sold all of their property, gave away everything,
their farms, their clothes, everything, and they all went out
to a hill, and this happened in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
They all went out to a hill and waited for
the second coming, and waited and waited, and nothing happened. Really,
and so I would have read about it if they had. Yeah,
so now they are destitute and homeless.

Speaker 10 (01:39:06):
So where did they go?

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
They tried the Shaker village suckers. So what's the snake
in the garden part? Well, I don't want you to
be too revealing. No, obviously came up with this chapter
title for a reason.

Speaker 11 (01:39:20):
Yes, there's a fascinating mystery about two women who were
banished from the Shaker village because of failure to observe
the celibacy rule.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
And they had two together.

Speaker 11 (01:39:33):
The two women, it was a mother and daughter both
In all the news stories and so forth, the accounts
at the time remarked that they were both strikingly beautiful,
and they had come to Cincinnati after they were banished
from Whitewater Village. And after about a week they were
found dead in a hotel room in downtown Cincinnati. Uh huh,

(01:39:56):
So the mystery around that is, Okay, what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Wow?

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
Well, there was a man who was taken in.

Speaker 11 (01:40:03):
By the Shaker village, who was a drunk, a total
wast stroll, a scoundrel. But he came from a very
wealthy Cincinnata family. And there's your snake in the garden.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
All about that, I was gonna charge you try to
draw a Bernie Sanders parallel, because apparently he lived in
an ashram or a commune, and he was the lazy
guy that never did anything. They kicked him out.

Speaker 10 (01:40:24):
Well, that he describes this guy too.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
He preaches the gospel of this communal lifestyle, but then
like all communes, it all fails because no one wants
to step up to the plate and pull their weight, and.

Speaker 11 (01:40:34):
There's always communism, and there's always some leech that's just parasite,
that's just riding along. Bernie Sanders, Yeah, well that describes
this guy too, except I don't think we could give
him credit for murdering anybody, at least not that I
know about. More with Peter Burnston, I like scratching the
surface of this because this obviously if heeds the curiosity element,

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it has been a riot talking about the various stories,
five different stories, all based upon local folks or local connections.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
And then we find out that some of them extend
out west. You had mentioned that earlier when we were
talking about which which chapter is that one?

Speaker 10 (01:43:02):
That's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
It's called Rifles at forty paced.

Speaker 10 (01:43:06):
Rifles at forty paces. Good, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:43:09):
Yeah, that's the story of a man from Wilmington, Ohio
who hopped on the Oregon Trail, which was an incredible
life threatening adventure in itself period Indians, disease, deserts parched, starving,
everything you can think of.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Yeah, and I'm sure it was so comfortable right in
a kind of stoga wagon.

Speaker 10 (01:43:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:43:36):
And he led the wagon train to northern California for
the gold Rush in eighteen fifty. So he went out
for the gold Rush. He fought an amazing duel against
a newspaper editor, which kind of I thought that was
a special a former editor myself. And this editor just
didn't know when to quit. He kept insulting this guy

(01:43:56):
in his editorials, and he just kept doing it and
doing it. It's a political thing, and so this guy
becomes such a heroic figure that he actually the city
of Denver, Colorado, is named after him, and he named
the state of Montana.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Really.

Speaker 11 (01:44:17):
Yes, he was governor of the Kansas Territory in the
eighteen late eighteen fifties, during the time they call Bleeding
Kansas now as a run up to the Civil War.
Bleeding Kansas was like a dress rehearsal. It was all
about abolition.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Oh, old brother, I never heard that term.

Speaker 11 (01:44:36):
Unbelievable, terrible, terrible violence. Okay, here's the Outlaw Josie Wales
the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Yes, I've seen that.

Speaker 11 (01:44:42):
That is about this period, and Josie Wales was in
the Battle of Bleeding Kansas that went on for years.
So if we look at Bleeding Kansas and we draw
some parallels. I didn't necessarily do this in the story,
but if you wanted to, you can draw parallels to
see what's going on in our country today. You might say, well, Portland,
Oregon kind of looks like what Bleeding Kansas looked like.

(01:45:05):
People were burning each other's farms, they were raiding, they
were killing each other. They were just completely out of
control all over the issue of slavery, because Kansas was
going to be a new state, and the abolitionists wanted
it to be a free state, of course, and the
people from Missouri who had already gotten statehood and wanted
it to be a slave state like them. So the

(01:45:27):
Missourians came up and they fought the abolitionists, and most
of the abolitionists were from northeastern states. And one of
those abolitionists was a man everybody knows about, John Brown,
oh sure. And he was a cold blooded psychopath. He
was unbelievable. He committed massacres and murders like you wouldn't believe,

(01:45:49):
and people glorified and made him a hero, not unlike
what we've done in our own culture today, with people
who are really in many ways despicable, live horrible life,
and yet because the way they die and the politics
around it, we lift them up as some kind of
mythical hero.

Speaker 10 (01:46:07):
And that's what happened with John Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
No kidding. Yeah, you know, I guess on some level
I can understand. But you know, the idea of murdering
your neighbors over it is a human rights, of course issue,
a profound one, and I you know, understanding and embracing humanity,
but that you would go out and murder someone over this,
I don't know, set farms on fire.

Speaker 11 (01:46:30):
It's just well, and you know, we kind of tend
to look back and people like this version of history
that's popular and in schools and colleges. Now, which is
that you know, abolitions are good guys, Confederates bad guys,
and this and that.

Speaker 10 (01:46:44):
You know, it's all very black and white. No, it wasn't.

Speaker 11 (01:46:48):
Some of the abolitionists were the scariest, most brutal people, terrorists,
They were psychopaths.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Well, okay, let me pose this to you. Fine, they
leave and abolishing slavery. There's a multitude of reasons why
someone might embrace that. Would someone, let's say John Brown,
embrace that as a philosophy and as a primary motivating
force and factor in their life for the purpose of
an excuse to commit violence, that he's a psychopath?

Speaker 10 (01:47:20):
Yeah, I think he was.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Like I believe you out there in the world, somebody
decided to go through maybe being becoming a priest because
they could be around little children. If somebody wants to
be a teacher because they can be around little children.
It isn't because they're really truly motivated by the you know,
the Christian doctrine, or because they're motivated to be educators.
They want to access the kids. Absolutely, So if they

(01:47:42):
want to kill, if this guy wants to has passion
for killing people, I'm an anti slavery guy, I'm an abolitionist. Okay,
go ahead and.

Speaker 11 (01:47:47):
Do it well in this story. The hero of this
story is James W. Denver from Wilmington, Ohio. City of
Denver's named after him. His archrival enemy is a guy
who was exactly what you described became. He kind of
played both sides, but mainly he was just a bloodthirsty raider.
He would raid and burn farms so that he could
take him for his own property and add him to

(01:48:08):
his political power. Oh, like the Crusades, yes, and so,
but there were other people. I think John Brown was
just nuts. I think he was crazy. He went around
killing people.

Speaker 10 (01:48:19):
In the name of God.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
That is just part they struggle with.

Speaker 10 (01:48:23):
That is nuts.

Speaker 11 (01:48:24):
And they thought that God was on their side, so
they could do anything they please. And both sides were unbelievably.

Speaker 10 (01:48:31):
Cruel and brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
So it was kind of like the Crusades.

Speaker 11 (01:48:33):
Yeah, Bleeding Kansas was an unbelievable chapter in our history.
And it's all like this mini little set piece dress
rehearsal for the Civil War.

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Before we get back with Peter Bronson, jump a little
bit more into magical history, Tour, murder, mystery and varied history.
We're gonna talk to Officer Tivity Green with the Sinciet
Police Department Crime Stoppers Bad Guy of the Week, Officer Green,
Happy Friday to you. Who are we looking for?

Speaker 12 (01:50:37):
The Cincinnati Police Homicide Unit is looking for Emory Green.

Speaker 13 (01:50:41):
Mister Green has.

Speaker 12 (01:50:42):
Wanted for fellow murder. On September twenty seventh of twenty
twenty four, mister Green was involved in a physical altercation
with John Nichols as a result of the physical education
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(01:51:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Got to get this guy off the street. You have
any information, Yeah, your tip. Lison rast eligible for a
cash reward, to be doing society a favor and all
that activity, criminal activity packed into twenty four short years.
That's a sad thing. Officer Green, thank you very much
for what you do in and out all the day long,
and thanks to this insane police department for their great work.
We'll be looking for him. Officer Green, thanks for much
have a wonderful weekend. It's back to Peter Bronson Magical

(01:51:49):
History Tour, Murder mystery and buried history, you know before
rather than maybe go back into one more of the
snippets about these various stories in here, just elaborating on it.
You and I were talking going off the break because
you lose sight when you're talking about the wild West,
and you mentioned that, you know, the duels. That was
all mic on. Is this Mike On?

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
It is?

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Okay, there you go, all right, I didn't hear it
just the second ago. Yeah, so it was very common.
But the background on that is there wasn't law enforcement.
You know, they weren't sheriffs necessarily around, and if they were,
they weren't going to stop a duel from happening.

Speaker 11 (01:52:24):
And this actually came from Europe. There was something called
the Irish Code Duello and that was a lengthy thing.
It's like thirty different rules and regulations to set up
a duel, all about the the courtesy and manners that
surround how you established it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
Do how you murder someone again, you'd properly do it
like the Marcus of Queensbury rules. Yeah, thing right, Well,
you know that's funny you'd bring that up once again.
You nailed it.

Speaker 11 (01:52:48):
The Marcus of Queensbury rules and boxing was actually introduced
in Europe as a way to settle these disputes without firearms.

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
Ah.

Speaker 11 (01:52:56):
So there was so much dueling going on and so
many young men being killed that they finally got this idea, well,
let's just resort to fisticuffs and settle it that way.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Apparently a duel could be justified and you just called
somebody a name.

Speaker 11 (01:53:09):
Oh yeah, especially if you you said something that shed
poor light on his girlfriend, or his mother or his sister.
Women were especially held sacer sank. Now, think about this
in compare it to today's society. First of all, they
had honor. People were polite because if you shot off
your mouth about somebody kill, you could be challenged and

(01:53:30):
dragged into the street into a duel. And if you
if you were uh, you know, the kind of person
who says, nah, I don't want to do that. I'm sorry.
If you back down after somebody had challenged you, then
you were disgraced. You were just kind of an outcast
from society. So the the amount of honor that people

(01:53:54):
held it in high regard at that time It is
just something that probably most of us really can't relate
to anymore, because we see what happens in our society today.
People do the most incredibly dishonorable things and then they
just say let's move on, and nobody challenges them. They
are not held accountable. I mean, I don't want to
go back to dueling.

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
He's gonna say, bailed suggestion from Peter Bronx, and we
bring back dueling. Well, the Irish Code Duello is still there.
I cite most of some of the rules of dueling
in my book Learn All about It. Get a copy
of Magical History to a murder Mystery, Buried History, and
let us talk very briefly. Hear Peter Brons and you
got a little extra fun and games going on at
the tail end of the book. With ten places to

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discover in Cincinnti history, I suppose these relate to the
individuals and points you made factually in the five stories
you provide.

Speaker 11 (01:54:46):
Also in my other books, so things like the Man
who Saved Cincinnati. The lu Wallace Study and Museum is
one of those spots. The Pioneer Cemetery is one of
those spots. I didn't even know about that until I
found it down by Lunkin Airport. It's a fascinating little
cemetery where you can find the grave of Major Benjamin Stites,
who was one of the first settlers of Cincinnati in

(01:55:10):
the seventeen eighties and nineties. And then there's another one
called Congress Green Cemetery, and that's the one where Benjamin
Scott or John Scott Harrison's body was robbed from the grave,
and also the burial place of John Cleves Simms, who
is sims purchase was all of the land that we

(01:55:30):
stand on today in Cincinnati, how about that? And these
are not of course, the Museum Center is fantastic, The
Art Museum is fantastic, all of these things. I just
wanted to find the little places that are kind of
out of the way. Who knew that these were there?
And that you can find out so much about our
history from this.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
Week your book, Man who Knew? Yeah, Peter Bronson's the
man we can thank for now knowing. If you get
a copy of the book and find out for yourself.
It's available at fifty five cares dot com, a podcast page,
or you can just go right now at Chilidogpress dot
com and Peter will be happy to ship one out
with free shipping. Peter can't thank you enough for the
Iron Studio. I love our conversations, man. I may to

(01:56:09):
wish we could done all the time. Great interview. Thank you.
This will be done. I swear I'll have this book
done in probably twenty four hours or forty hours, because
I got a four day week and I'm going to
start with this when I get home. Fantastic folks. Stick
around after Is there an afterlife? Sebastian Junger reflection on
death and what might follow? He is the keynote speaker
and empower you Sumon are coming up on the ninth

(01:56:31):
in my time of dying, so this should be a
rather interesting conversation after the top of the air news.
I hope you can stick around. You right back, Bock Sexton,
even if she's a lib. You pay on the first aid.
Guys today after glad, I'm fifty five KRC the talk station.
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(01:56:51):
happy Friday to everyone. Brian Tooma is happy to bring
to the Welcome to the fifty five carre Karse Morning Show.
A man who you're going to want to hear next Tuesday.
It's an you semmonar virtual only so you can stay
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own home. Just register it empower at Youamerica dot org.
Of course to start time seven pm Tuesday. Mark it
down for my guest, Sebastian Younger and I hope I

(01:57:13):
pronounced in your last name right, Sebastian, you may very
well be aware of I'm an author of a whole
bunch of very highly praised books. He's an award winning journalist,
contributing editor to Vanity Fair, special correspondent to ABC News.
He's been a war correspondent, covered major international news stories
around the world, received both a National Magazine Award and
a Peabody Award. And get a load of this. He

(01:57:34):
did a documentary Restrepo, nominated for an Academy Award and
won a Grand Jury Prize at Sundance. Also written for magazines.
You've heard about The New York Times magazine, National Geographic Adventure.
You've read his stuff. Welcome to the program, Sebastian. It's
a real pleasure to have you. I'm to talk about
this rather fascinating. I guess I just sort of life

(01:57:55):
change that you went through in my time of dying,
how I came face to face with the idea of
an afterlife, which is the name of your book, hugely
successful book. Sebastian, Welcome to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show.

Speaker 9 (01:58:08):
Hey, thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
You know your I gotta you died. I'm gonna let
you summarize what occurred to you and how life transformational
this death experience was. But I got to tell you,
I had a friend of my father's, or one of
my fathers, my late father's friends, went through almost word
for word exactly what you experienced when you ended up

(01:58:30):
in the hospital. I mean he in his case, he
died and met his mom and ended up being revived.
In your case, it was your father. So let's walk
through this. And I think it's really important for my
listening audience to know that going into this experience, you
were an atheist, a confirmed atheist.

Speaker 9 (01:58:50):
Yeah, and I still am. And my father was an
atheist and a physicist, which is like atheist square. So
that's where yeah, my family and iron covered from. So
I had a you know, I was a war reporter
for a long time and I've come close to getting
killed a number of times, and I'd made my sort
of peace with that, and then I stopped war reporting.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
I had a family.

Speaker 9 (01:59:12):
I felt like I sort of slid into home base.
And I'm in good shape. I'm not a walking heart attack.
I'm an athlete. I had no reason to have any
concern for my medical well being, and in mid sentence,
I felt that pain in my abdomen and it wasn't
I had an undiagnosed aneurism in my pacriatic artery, which
is this little artery that no one needs to think about.

(01:59:33):
And an aneurism is a sort of unnatural balloting in
the side of the artery that will eventually burst, and
when it ruptures, you start bleeding out into your own abdomen.
And the problem with that is doctors don't know where
it is. If you get stabbed in the stomach, they
know where to plug the leak, as it were, but
not if it's internal hemorrhage, which is what I had.

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I lost half of my blood. It took me an
hour and a half to get to the hospital. I
lost at least half my blood more and I was
an end stage hemorrhagic shock. When when I got there
and while they were trying to get a pick line
into my into my juguler to transfuse me. I needed
ten units of blood, basically a.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Full oil change.

Speaker 9 (02:00:15):
Right while they were doing that, I found myself getting
pulled into this black pit, this sort of infinitely black pit,
like the universe had cracked open.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
I had no idea I was dying, but.

Speaker 9 (02:00:26):
I was terrified of going into this darkness. And then
my father, my dead father, appeared above me, uh and
communicated to me, it's okay. Basically, it's okay, I'll take
care of you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
You don't have to fight it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:38):
I'll take care of you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
And I was horrified, but I was like, I don't
want to be with you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
I want I want to stay.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Here like and I said on that point, at that point,
I hate the interrupt, But on that point, were you
I mean I don't want to be with you? Was
that a recognition that this was death? And I mean,
you knew your dad was dead and you were talking
or he was speaking with you from apparently beyond the
grave or some sort. So is that where your fears
them from?

Speaker 9 (02:01:06):
Well, you know, when you've lost half your blood, your
brain's not working very well. I never connected those dots right.
I was very puzzled to see him hovering above me.
I mean, A, you're dead. B why are you floating right?
I mean, I just I can't tell you how puzzled
I was. And he was basically offering to take care
of me. Come with me, I'll take care of you.

(02:01:26):
I was like, why would I go You're dead? Why
would I want to go with you? The party's over here.
We'll talk later, like in a long time, A long
time later.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
And I said to the.

Speaker 9 (02:01:35):
Doctor, you have to hurry, I'm going right, And as
he was working to get the line into my neck.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
Wow, well, now that is one element that differs from
the friend of my father's, because he was in my
view of it, I use the term piece of God
all the time. You know, it's like the piece of
God that passes all human understanding. I think he experienced
something like one would believe the piece of God. Anxiety,
full relief, joy, happiness, and no worries, no concerns. And

(02:02:05):
when he saw his mother speaking with him, I mean,
he was just totally enlightened. But he looked down and
saw himself on the operating table. He heard the doctors
talking to each other, and some may argue, though, going
back to your point about a dream state, was he
really experiencing sort of a dream at the time his
cognitive functions were still working and this was a manufactured thing,
or was he indeed experiencing an afterlife? And is that

(02:02:27):
sort of what led you on this post experience journey
that you went on that you write about in the book.

Speaker 9 (02:02:34):
Yeah, So afterwards, I was very, very puzzled by what happened.
And they managed to save my life. They got enough
flood into me. They used a intivietual radiology at catheter
to get through my venus system, through my arterial system
to the rupture and plug it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:49):
Amazing, amazing medical care.

Speaker 9 (02:02:51):
And I woke up in the ICU the next morning
and I went through all this conscious because they couldn't
sedate me because my vital size was so low. So
the next after I got home from the hospital, I
started reading about NDEs near death experiences and what I
found out was that what I experienced seeing.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
A dead loved one is very very common and.

Speaker 9 (02:03:13):
Uh, and I started to so I started to explore
that and the the you know, the the ultimate question
and maybe the ultimate mystery is as you say, Are
these just the hallucinations of a dying brain? Or are
is it a glimpse into the fact that we may
not understand reality completely? We may not understand it very well.

(02:03:35):
I mean, we may not understand consciousness and life and
death in any way. And is this are these visions
death bad visions? Are Are they showing us a glimpse
of an ultimate reality which would be a sort of
unity of all consciousness that that sort of idea?

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Now, did this experience transforming in a sense that what
quite often what I've read? And of course there have
been multiple accounts, as you point out, of this, other
people experiencing very comparable things. Did you come back with
a more profound appreciation for life? Like you know what
it's like? I always dogree. You know you could die
any day, You could go outside, a bustle hit you

(02:04:13):
weren't planning for it. You know, we don't all go
through like a long arduous battle with cancer. Sometimes bad
things happen and you just check out without a moment's notice.
So knowing that you literally can check out with a
moment's notice, as you almost did, did it change you
in how you see life on a day to day basis.

Speaker 9 (02:04:33):
Excuse me, Yes, yes it did, but you know, with
a sort of caveat, with a sort of asterisk. So
if you realize you could die not only any day,
but any moment, it it shed a very very bright
light on what the experience of life is. And it
can make you very very paranoid, right, I mean you
literally think I could die at any moment. It's very

(02:04:55):
very hard to relax, right, And that terror is the
flip side of reverence. So yeah, I could die at
any moment. That's terrifying, or I could die at any moment.
I have a great reverence and thankfulness for the fact
that I exist right now, and they sort of go
hand in hand and by At one point, so I

(02:05:16):
went through a period of extreme anxiety. It took quite
a months a year to sort of get out of that,
and eventually where I landed was a kind of calm
appreciation of how sort of blessed we are. And I
mean blessed in a secular sense, right, I'm not religious,
but how blessed we all are to exist at all.

(02:05:38):
And it's easy to forget that when you're stuck in
a traffic jam or you know, running to doing the
groceries or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
All right, Well, I have a good question for you particularly,
and I think it's most appropriate for you because of
your being a about atheist. Where did your terror come from?
I know people that are afraid of death because they
remember what they did during their life, and you can't
pat yourself on the back for all the things you
did life. Quite often religion will bring about that. It's
like watching the Ebenezer screwge. You know, he looks like,

(02:06:06):
oh my God, look what's gonna happen to me? If
I don't change my ways, I will be doomed to
eternal power are a peril. No, if I think that's
a possibility, that's going to scare the hell out of me.
So I would have terror thinking that I might die
if I haven't changed my life or otherwise undone the
bad that I've done. But how about in your case?
Because honestly, sir, regardless of my personal philosophy about life,

(02:06:30):
death and doctrine and dogma, I've kind of come to
a realization that I'm not afraid of death. I've reconciled
myself with that. I'm prepared to meet my make or
I'm prepared for whatever comes and I'm you know, if
they pull the plug of meats right now, I'm on
the morning show. I can't handle that. I at least
I think I can. I don't live in terror or
fear of death at all.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it was.

Speaker 9 (02:06:53):
A consequence of trauma, right. I've been in a lot
of combat and was traumatized by that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
Sure, a lot of people who have made.

Speaker 9 (02:07:01):
Their peace with dying are so traumatized by the events
that they saw on the battlefield. And I was very
traumatized by this experience, you know, in mid sentence talking
to my wife, all of a sudden, I was circling
the drain, and that that could happen at any moment
can make you overly self aware, right, overly conscious of
your moment to moment experience.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
I also had very young children.

Speaker 9 (02:07:24):
I came to fatherhood late in my mid fifties. I
love them more than life itself, and they are life
itself for me. And so the idea of being sort
of plucked, plucked out of my family, leaving my family
with the records of my death like it just I
couldn't bear to think about it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
That I get that makes perfect sense to me because
you know, I have a wife, I have family, I
love them dearly, and yeah, the idea of missing them.
But see, then that goes back to is there something
afterward that will cause you to miss them? I don't
know what's coming. In my philosophy, I don't believe in ghosts.
For example, Sebastian, I don't want to believe in the afterlife.

(02:08:00):
I'm gonna be looming around, lurking, watching what people are doing,
or scaring the crap out of people. I think God
or we have a greater mystery out there to contemplate
than something like that. So I choose not to believe
in them because I don't want to believe in that
as a concept. So, but that longing and that thinking
about your current cognitive awareness of people and interactions and

(02:08:23):
people thinking about you, were talking about you, that that
has to continue to exist after you die to have
some concern about what it's going to be like. I
like to think that that's over with.

Speaker 9 (02:08:34):
Oh yeah, very very well, maybe overWe that, but you know,
it was it was more an understanding now as a
person who is alive, that this could all endown, right,
And that's that's kind of that's kind of wrenching it
and it it and also it was more the concern
was more what you would do to my family, more
left behind like that was that was a very very

(02:08:56):
painful idea very young kids. And you know, I just
say it was to unbearable.

Speaker 3 (02:09:01):
To think about.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
I get it in my time of dying, how I
came face to face with the idea of an afterlife.
My guest today Sebastian Younger. Again, this is empower You
America dot org website. Register for the class next Tuesday,
beginning at seven pm. And I understand you're gonna be
doing question and answers as well. Oh yes, of course, yeah,
I know. I look forward to it. I love feeling
people's questions. Great part drama, part autobiography, part scientific inquiry

(02:09:27):
into the mystery of death. It's all there next tuesdays
the day. I hope a lot of people tune into this,
and I hope a lot of people buy your book.
And here's what I'll do. I'll have Sean McMahon, my
producer for the day, add your book and a link
to people where people can get it, probably Amazon, on
my blog page so they can maybe get a copy
in advance and start reading about what you experienced, maybe
even advance of the seminar. Oh awesome, Thank you very much.

(02:09:49):
My pleasure to do with Sebastian Younger, really a pleasure
talking with you. Fascinating concept you're dealing with here, and again,
best of luck on the empower You Seminar Tuesday, seven pm.
Happy holidays to you, Sebastian, you two, Thank you very much.
Thanks my friend eight nineteen. Right now, if you I
have KCD talk station, shot will open up the phone lines.
We have time to talk. I got other stories we
can talk about. Maybe there's something I talked about earlier.

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You want to chime in on it, feel free to
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Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
Very Happy Friday to Yeah. I'm another reminder. I'm off
Monday Tuesday. Maybe you don't care, but Gary Jeff Walker does.
He's gonna be coming for me on Monday. So Gary Jeff,
if you're out there, thank you in advance for doing that.
Dan Carroll covering for me on tuesdays, I use up
the remaining vacation I had days I have because if
you don't use them, smoke them. If you got him
around here, you can't keep them. Want to see if
we can't get a a charity donation. I've seen other

(02:11:47):
companies have this, and I don't think I heard has it.
You've got unused vacation days and you can't carry him over,
why not donate him somebody else, you know, maybe having
a problem. Maybe guy had an aneurysm and you know
you got to take care of his family or whatever.
You know, donate your vacation days if you're not using them.
So anyway, just a thought, But I'm trying to burn
through minds, and Strucker decided late yesterday afternoon he was

(02:12:09):
burning through one of his today. That's why Sean McMahon
is doing a great job covering for Joe today. Let's
go to the phone. See what Jim's got, Hey, Jim,
thanks for calling man, Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 7 (02:12:18):
Good morning, Brian. Following up there on Peter Bronson's Bleeding Kansas.
Leading up to that in the late eighteen thirties in
that western western Missouri, the Morlings were chased out of Missouri.
One of the main reasons was because they were anti slavery,

(02:12:39):
and in fact there was an extermination were issued on
the Mormons, which was an effect, was issued by Governor
Boggs and was an effect until the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
No kidding, well, I learned a lot this morning. I
had forgotten, or at least wasn't familiar with bleeding Kansas
as a concept. I didn't realize John Brown was such
a a savage, crazy guy. I just read this morning
after I talked with Charles Bronson about the Potawatomy massacre,
that he was behind hacking to death five pro slavery

(02:13:12):
civilians with broadswords in the middle of the night. Not
exactly a pleasant man he was. I guess I understand
the motivations. I just don't think acting in that way
is an appropriate way to resolve a political conflict. But
crazy times back then, Jim, I appreciate you chiming in
on that one, and again I'll encourage everybody to get
the copy of Peter's book. It's really cool, magical history tour,
murder Mystery Buried History. It's five short stories, and that

(02:13:35):
is one of the wings that was discussed within that.
The other thing he mention just that rifles at forty
paces segment that we talked about the duel. The duel
was with rifles at forty paces. So I always thought
duels were with pistols, you know, grab one of the pistols,
you know, and the again, going by the rules, you know,

(02:13:56):
step ten paces, turn around and squeezed. I suppose you're
are more likely to hit your target if you're shooting
at the other guy with a rifle. Anyhow, Mark's go
ahead and take Mark's call. I know's he's angry about
my last guest, Mark, Welcome to the Morning show him. Ryan,
it's on your mind, Mark, just real quick.

Speaker 13 (02:14:15):
I just wanted to say I listened to your dad
for years and loved him. Just a little side note.
I was listening in the morning that Nancy McCormick helicopter
went and that was a trip. But none of that
last guy. I'm trying to figure out how we're blessed,
but he's an atheist.

Speaker 3 (02:14:33):
I don't.

Speaker 13 (02:14:34):
I just back blew my mind. And then both you
guys talking about like the afterlife, and that it's like,
does he believe in a soul? Do you believe in
a soul? I personally handed out of body experience, and
I saw my soul, saw my flesh and.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
Yeah, yeah, that was like my dad's friend. He was
watching himself from above on the operating table, and he
was a doc. I mean the guy was a surgeon too,
if I recall correctly, So he knew exactly what was
going on exactly the same thing.

Speaker 13 (02:15:05):
Yeah, yeah, but just again, the thing that got my
eyer up was the sam we're blessed, but he doesn't
believe in God, So where's the blessing coming from?

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
Well, I consider myself blessed for the information. Apparently he's
written an amazing book. He should read the reviews of it.
People were moved by it in many different ways, people
of different faiths and religions, or maybe people who are
atheists or having no particular doctrinal dogmatic connection. It's still
fascinating subject matter. He lived through it, he's documented himself
that he had this experience. One would might tend to

(02:15:39):
believe that that might lead him to a conclusion that
there is an afterlife that may turn someone toward religion.
So it is a positive thing to talk about, and
it's a great thing to look at it from different
elements and aspects. I have many friends in the listening audience, Mark,
who are not religious. They are either atheists or agnostic.

(02:16:00):
Have you ever heard me say what religion I am?
None of my arguments, none of my principles, none of
my foundational points with regard to matters political ever, spring
from a religious philosophy. It may incorporate a particular set
of religious principles, but I'm trying to be neutral because
we are We do not live in a theocracy in
this country. If our founding fathers wanted to have an

(02:16:21):
established religion which they fled from, they would have incorporated it.
That's why we have a First Amendment free exercise of
religion that accounts for all people. And as I go
through life, I can learn and be interested by and
ergo be blessed by the simple blessing of education, expanded thought,
expanded thinking, by interchanging and in exchange and exchanging ideas

(02:16:43):
with people of different faiths, religions, or maybe people who
don't even have them. I think that is in and
of itself a blessing. So I guess it depends on
how you define the word blessing Mark, But I'm glad
he's around. I'm glad he's willing to talk about it,
and if you log in the seminar, he's going to
be taking questions. Didn't this have an impact on your atheism?
Didn't your experience kind of give you the sense that

(02:17:04):
there is something out there that is more mysterious that
may have a full a connection with religion or not.
I mean, maybe one could argue that even supports his atheism. Hmm.
If there's an afterlife and he's going to see his dad,
that's kind of one of the things that heaven conceptually
is all about. But an atheist got to experience that.

(02:17:29):
Even an atheist who doesn't believe in any of that,
had an after life experience. It's kind of interesting, and
that's why I gave him sort of I wanted to
emphasize it. He emphasizes in his own materials, in his
own book and his own description of his background that
he is so I thought that was one of the
more fascinating elements of his experience because most people might

(02:17:51):
use that as an opportunity to prosthlytize see there is
an afterlife, and that supports my personal belief systems. Whatever
they want happened to be that there is an afterlife
and you're gonna see something. So yeah, I think it's
a valuable exercise. So maybe you and I just view
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Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
Ay forty eight to fifty five KRC detalk station, Yeah,
you've time. You get religions, some people get angry. I
don't think he was necessarily angry, but Ernie claims, I'm
jumping through hoops to support my policies. I don't agree
with a lot of them. That's cool, Ernie, that's what
the morning shows all about. That's why have a phone number,
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I'm one man. Opinions are like sphincters. We all have one.
I try to support everything that I believe in with
logic and reason and my profound faith and belief in
the Constitution and the principles embodied there by our founding fathers,

(02:20:20):
who literally lived through the whole idea of a established
religion and church. They had to pay taxes to the
Church of England whether or not they belong to the
Church of England the various colonies. So that was one
of the reasons why we have free exercise. That's okay.
In my world. Free exercise allows me to go down
whatever path I choose and That's what prostlyization is all about,

(02:20:41):
isn't it. There are folks out there in the world
that disagree with your particular religious philosophy. Maybe you sit
down and have a conversation with them, Maybe through engaging
in communication, logic, perhaps in reason, you can convince them
to come over to your side of the ledger.

Speaker 9 (02:20:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:20:56):
And if you are a believer and you really truly
believe that there's go what the eternal damnation, don't you
owe it to your friends to try to convince them
that you don't want them to go through eternal damnation?
Isn't that the point of prostialization, not necessarily bring another
member of into your faith, but to save them from
the eternal damnation that you believe in. I mean seriously,

(02:21:18):
but it's always a tricky subject. Always just saying, and
I've been asking the question since this morning. And thanks
again and props to Signal ninety nine. If you remember
on Facebook, then follow Signal ninety nine. She's a hoot,
but she is really on top of all things political
and not a huge fan of Mara have to have parwall,
but she brought it to everybody's attention, including the reporters

(02:21:39):
over WCPOU, I have to have par Ball apparently has
already had one automobile repossessed, but maybe even a second.
So Tanya Roork and Taylor Waiter over at the WCPO
reached out to Mara have to have pur Ball about
these claims that he has two repossessions orders for his

(02:22:00):
vehicles over the past couple of years now. This sprung
from this post from the admittedly satire page Signal ninety nine.
Although it does include a lot of satires, She is funny,
but it also includes a lot of very factual information,
like the fact that he and did get his car
repossessed at least once. Anyway, I guess they're looking into

(02:22:20):
whether there was a number two, so she got a
lot of attention. Claimed Parvall had his car repossessed in
twenty twenty four and then again now suggests that maybe
there's another one out there, so we uh. Thursday, she
posted a picture of an alleged repossession of the order
for Provall's twenty twenty three Lincoln Aviator date November six,

(02:22:41):
twenty twenty five, and redacts a bunch of other information.
Page claimed that this wasn't the first order to repossess
one of his vehicles, claims he has two, so when
they reached out to him, he confirmed his car was
in fact repossessed last year. At least one last year
due to my carelessness, my auto pay on my car

(02:23:03):
was not working, and as a result, my car was repossessed.
Since that time, I have been in possession of my car.
I'm up to date of my payments, and I'm not
aware of any other pending issues. I thought that was
kind of curious. Not aware of any other pending issues.
Now would Signal ninety nine find out there might have
been a second repossession. If he doesn't claim to have
any awareness of it, I'll let you process that one anyway.
He says, I'm up to date on my payments and

(02:23:24):
I'm not aware of any of the pending issues. I
made a mistake, and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Now,
the question I have burning in the back of my mind.
Has anybody been through this repossession process before? And if so,
how long or how many car payments do you have
to miss before they can come over and repossess it.
I mean, I know they can't shut the power and

(02:23:45):
water off in your place without a whole lot of notice.
I'd like to think at least they can't evict you
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Speaker 4 (02:25:01):
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Speaker 1 (02:25:05):
Well done, Sean. Sean McMahon doing a great job coming
for the vacation, named Joe s director and playing the
only fifty five kr CE sanctioned Christmas music. I'm sure
there's some people that disagree with that too. No Trans
Siberian Orchestra for the fifty five cars Morton Show. I
do love the Vince Garlty trio. And of course you

(02:25:26):
cannot beat in terms of Christmas viewing Charlie Brown. Christmas
every single year in my life. Came out in sixty five,
the year of my birth, and make it a point
to watch it every year back I'll go on all
the way back to the days when you had to
plan for it. Oh, it's gonna be Friday at you know,
seven pm or whatever, gather around the TV and wait
for it to come on, and you can throw a
disc in. That's old school too, isn't it. Just pull

(02:25:47):
it up on your streaming audio service. But if you
forgot what Christmas is about, Ernie forgot what Christmas is about,
watched the Charlie Brown Christmas. Merry Christmas, Charlie Brown, and
enjoy the Vince Girl trio. That was the first thing
I put on. I've been trying to get myself in
a Christmas spirit and started doing some cooking the other
day in the kitchen, and I even the day after Thanksgiving,

(02:26:10):
which I never put Christmas on until at least into December,
I put on the Vince Garaldi trio while I was cooking,
and it really put a smile on my face. So
try to make an effort to put a smile on
your face, especially in these trying times. And speaking of
trying times, Oh real quick, who was it? Let me
give credit where credit is to got a message alerting

(02:26:30):
me to this. Oh shoot, Chip, I had mentioned this,
this letter coming from Hugo carraval Barrios. He is in prison,
former three star Venezuela in general and director of military intelligence.

(02:26:51):
Now he is talking about how the Venezuelans and Maduro
are weaponizing drugs as tools against America. This is much
in the way that Chinese Communist Party weaponizes literally everything
behind the scenes, hacking into servers, preparing themselves for the
day when they flip the switch, using social media divide us,
to divide us and advance their political agenda, maybe advancing

(02:27:12):
the cause of atheism. Earnie, I don't know, but they're
doing the various things out there. Well. One of the
things he said was about this election system, nonsense smartmatic system.
He said, I placed the head of it, of the
National Electoral Council that would be a position in Venezuela,
in his position, and he reported directly to me the

(02:27:33):
smartmatic system can be altered. This is a fact. Now,
he says, it's all. It was altered in the Venezuelan elections.
And many people are saying that election was stolen by Maduro,
and I tend to agree with that, you know, sort
of assessment. But he doesn't claim necessarily that every election
that's related to smartmatic is stolen. He doesn't lay specific

(02:27:54):
charges with regard to elections in the United States, but
there was some connection with Smartmatic and some of the
voting systems that we use here and so Dominion for example.
And so when I mentioned Dominion, chip alerted to me,
I think I may have read it, But that has
been purchased and it no longer has any connection with

(02:28:14):
the Smartmatic folks. A guy named Scott Weyendecker, founder and
chairman of Liberty Vote, and he's the only owner of
Dominion voting systems, former GOP election reform advocate, and he
acquired Dominion as the sole private owner earlier this year.
So finally we have no connection at least with the Venezuelans.
Whether or not you believe in the integrity to vote

(02:28:34):
or whether these electronic voting system should be used or
not is a different thing. But I wanted to update
you on that. And then the other reality we have
to deal with. It's the political reality. You remember why
the government shut down recently? Remember Continuing Resolution? It passed
one hundred percent of the Biden level funding levels from

(02:28:55):
twenty twenty four. Why do the Republicans do that and
not like Thomas Massey wanted in others cut the size
of government with the Continuing Resolution because they wanted to
deprive the Democrats of an argument. They had no argument,
which is why they capitulated. They couldn't say, ah, those
evil Republicans want to cut this, that, and the other thing.
So we were left with that reality Biden level funding.

(02:29:17):
But it gave them the upper hand in a political argument. Look,
you're the one that put the expiration of the tax
credits in there, Democrats, we didn't even vote for that.
You own it. Now since that battle was won, the
tax credits are expiring at the end of the month,
and it's really being it's an eye opener because the
notices are going out and people are coming to the

(02:29:38):
painful reality of what they're going to be paying under
Obamacare on a monthly basis, if, of course, they're above
the poverty level cut off of which I think is
like sixty two thousand dollars roughly. Now, those Obamacare tax
credits that they wanted to extend were, you know, folks
making more than six hundred percent of the poverty level,
some making one thousand percent of the federal poverty level. Yeah,

(02:29:59):
is there a reason to get them credit? No, it
masks the real cost of Obamacare. But now we've got
a dozen Republican lawmakers joining with a bunch of Democrats
in support of extending them, continue the argument that they're
making no no, they end at the end of the month.

Speaker 3 (02:30:15):
This is you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:15):
Now they're suggesting maybe we should extend them for a year,
maybe two years. Why because of November twenty six, Republicans
at least a handful of them now are coming to
the paint for reality. This is going to provide the
Democrats with an argument, look at what they did. They
made your premiums go up. They didn't change anything about healthcare.

(02:30:37):
You're the ones that created the system and the mess
that it brought about. You're the ones that is the
reason why the premiums are so high if we get
to experience the reality of them because you're not covering
them over with the taxpayer sponsored credit. But since that
argument will be there, the Republicans are worried that we
go into November of twenty six, they're going to be
screaming about us being evil and cutting off all these

(02:30:57):
supplements and they'll have and now they're worried. Let's be
frank here for a minute. If they don't do it,
extend them by December thirty. First, the premiums are going
to go up. It's going to cause chaos. The poll
numbers are going to go down. That's surrender for the midterms.
That's a quote from Washington Bureau Chief Matt Boyle at Breitbart,
who's been on this program a bunch of times. The

(02:31:19):
smart move for the Republicans, he said, is to take
the weapons away from the Democrats and push it beyond
the twenty twenty eight election. Yep. Now, whether or not
I agree with Matts's, you know, the assessment overall, I
think it's accurate politically, But is this not further kicking
the can down the road? Is this not the same
exercise we go through all the time, over and over

(02:31:39):
and over and over again. And when you read about
the amount of corruption that exists, not Minnesota like corruption
with other programs, but corruption in connection with the Affordable
Care Act and the tax credits. When you see how

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many numbers social security names were used over and over
again by multiple people, multiple times, fake social Security numbers,
no checking for fraud, waste, and abuse, it's like nonexistent.
The GAO did its own undercover test, our own government
put out fake applicants. They were approved ninety percent of

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