55KRC Friday Morning Show -- 4/11/25

Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, Troy Day, Director of Veteran Programs at Trust and Valor talks about how he uses horses to aid American veterans, Deep Dive with Daniel Davis on the war in Ukraine, Captain Douglas Ernest talks about his book "The Spirit of a True Patriot" plus Military Pastor David Scarlett talks about his book "All for His Glory: The Near-death Experience of a Modern-day Job."

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Five O five fifty five k r C the talk station.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
A vation.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thank you Sean McMahon, Governed four, Joe Strecker, appreciate you
being here all week man. And a very happy Friday, everybody,
of course always love Fridays in a very cheerful mood. Thankfully,
my wife is back from Chicago. She was gone all
week and that's uh disrupting for someone who realizes so

(00:53):
much on his wife, but more fundamentally taking a week off.
So next week I am doing a mental health week.
Dan Carroll's going to adequately take care of the program
Monday through Thursday, and Kevin Gordon's filling in on next Friday.
So thanks in advance to Dan and covering for covering
for me. Well, I well sleep in, which is really
the only thing I look forward to on vacation. So yeah,

(01:15):
staycation and a special shout out and thanks from the
bottom of my heart to be if being invited last
night to the Warren Lincoln Reagan Dinner, the reborn kind
of Republican Party Lincoln Reagan Dinner. I was great because
Orlando Sonza did the MC work and I quite often
am asked and I'm honored when I'm asked to introduce people,

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and Orlando, who I dearly love. I think he is
just an outstanding guy, and I know he's got a
great political future in front of him. Whatever he chooses
to do, he's got a great future.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Period. But he did a great.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Job facilitating and I was asked to introduce Vivek Ramaswamy,
which was a distinct pleasure. Our next governor without question.
That guy is mind blowing. Every time I hear him speak,
he's just he's inspiring, you know. And I hate to
draw a parallel with Ronald Reagan, but every time Reagan spoke,

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you know, the great communicator, you felt good. He felt
good about the country, He felt good about what he
was having to say. He was always uplifting, he had
positive things to say. That's Ramaswami, without question. And he
spoke without even looking at a note for I don't know,
twenty minutes or so, and out why all his policies,

(02:31):
his strategies, his future for Ohio, which is all bright, shiny,
you know, everything's going to be great, and what an
inspiring guy he is. And it was just it was
great being there. I hated to have to bow out
a little early, but I do get up early, so
I bailed. I don't know, it was like eight thirty

(02:51):
or something. The event wasn't over yet. But to everybody
in Warren County, what a wonderful audience, What a great
group of people. The Bikers for Trump folks were there,
all these motorcycle enthusiasts who support Donald Trump, and I
was invited to us to go out on rides with them.
So I got to meet those guys and I'm looking
forward to taking a ride or two with them over

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the summertime. So made some new friends, met some you know,
Frank le Rose was there and gave him a hard
time because he basically stole my thunder introducing Ramaswambi, because
you know, I had all these notes prepared on Promisami's
background and the of the books he's written, and Frank
took care of that. When he was speaking, That's okay,

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But I didn't manage to get a few points in.
And I just I felt great about being invited, and
it's you know, it's like being with an entire room
full of friends. You Warren County folks, man, I'm telling
you you got it all together. I even recounted the
story about my wife after the November election, when the

(03:53):
Hamilton kind of returns came in. She's like, we need
to leave Hamilton County. And I looked out in the room.
I'm thinking Warden County. Maybe, yeah, exactly. So anyway, wonderful event.
Although and the only reason I'm explain this only because
when I pulled into the Manor House driveway, you know,
the leads to the Manor House where the event was

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taking place of right off Mason Montgomery Road. There are
protesters out there. I don't know about maybe twenty five thirty.
I didn't count them. I didn't read the signs that
they were holding, but you know, and I came in,
I said, are those people protesting? Everyone was like yeah.
And vv Robinson. I mean I actually went out and

(04:36):
spoke with him, which I thought was a good thing.
And I can't got the impression that they didn't realize
why they were out there. But as I pointed out
to the audience, it's Thursday at five pm. What are
you doing at Thursday at five pm? You know, I'm

(04:56):
my children have grown, but you know, I'm thinking about
sitting down with the family and having dinner and under
no circumstance in my entire life, and I've been political
since I think the age of sixteen. Juck Barkholtz, you're
out there. Thank you very much for encouraging me and
my dad. God bless my dad, because of course my

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politics came from my dad and our dinner table discussions
about politics, which quite often pissed my sister off. But
I had never considered going to a protest. If Democrats
are having a meeting, if they have a support for,

(05:39):
like some candidate they want to elect an office, I mean,
I am not getting off of my chair. I am
not interrupting my daily routine. I am not going to
go stand out in front of a roadway with a sign.
What's the point You're not going to convince anyone that's
driving in that you did? Oh well, I read a
song and I'm going to give up on the war

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and a Republican party, and I'm not going to attend
the Lincoln Reagan dinner because of what you're saying. And
I don't know what point they were trying to make,
but the point I came across is that they have
absolutely nothing better to do in their lives. With the
standby road where with a stupid sign saying you know,
Trump fascist or something. And again, you know you're driving

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down the road, I'm paying attention to the road, I'm
minding traffic. I'm pulling into the driveway because you know,
I don't spend a lot of time at the manor house.
I want to make sure I'm at the right place.
I'm not gonna stop and like, let me see, let
me let me read what's on your signs, which is
why I had to go in and ask people were
they in fact protesting what's going on in here today?
Which was well, the Lincoln Reagan dinner had some great

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speakers there, and of course keynote speaker vivig Ramiswamy, who,
of course, if they listened to what he had to say,
they probably would have been inspired about the future of
the state of Ohio under his leadership, which will begin
next November after he's elected.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Anyway, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Whatever, I just I felt, you know, on some level,
I felt kind of sorry for him. Thursday at five pm,
and they were on a timetable too. I think somebody
else had joked about that they looking at their watches.
We're supposed to be here for two hours or an
hour and a half, and that's what we're being paid

(07:21):
for or something.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I don't know. Anyway, I'm sorry, it is Friday.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm in a good mood. I want to hear from
you if you got something to say. Five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk.
Let's do the rundown. It is Tech Friday. Dave Hatter
coming up at six thirty. Love talking with Dave today
in the Orwell Report, a car exploit allows you to
spy on drivers in real time. Okay, New York police

(07:49):
departments sending drones to the sites of nine to one
one calls. And third topic, the latest car technology is
starting to drive people crazy, so we have cars in
the Tech Friday Report, the RWORL Report. Troy Day they
Trust in Valor program. It's a program for veterans and
first responders. So he'll join the program at seven o'clock

(08:12):
to talk about that. You know, I love my first
responders and my veteran friends out there, so Troy Day
will give us the trust in Valid rundown. Daniel Davis
Deep Dive couldn't get him on Tuesday. Do technical difficulties Today?
We get him back, and I saw NATO SAMs the
United States involvement. We're talking about troop deployment, peacekeeping troops
in the event there is a negotiated peace deal. I

(08:33):
guess they feel the need to have some presence there
of troops, although it's widely noted that since they have
sat on their hands and not done anything by way
of funding their own various militaries and all these European
Union in NATO countries while allowing the United States taxpayers
to basically handle their defense for the past I don't know,
fifty years plus, they don't have any military resources or

(08:57):
troops necessarily not as many is they would need to
fund and manage the troop levels too, I guess ensure
whatever piece deal that's reached is upheld. Well, that's what
we get, Daniel Davis. So Daniel Davis and I will
talk about that. Captain Douglas Ernest will join the program
at eight o'clock. The Spirit of a True Patriot The

(09:20):
Inspiring Story of Retired to Captain Douglas j Ernest, So
he'll be on at eight o'clock to talk about that book.
And then military pastor David Scarlett with his book all
for his glory. The near death experience of a modern
day job. That'll be at eight thirty. So interesting and
fun rundown this morning, and great topics to talk about.

(09:43):
We may see the end of daylight saving time. I
know the Democrats and Republicans have been sitting down actually
talking about that, and I welcome whatever resolution they get,
as long as we don't change the clocks anymore. Let's see.
There's just a multitude of different stories I got in
front of me. But since it is five point fifteen,
I'll pause and we'll give you an update on more

(10:04):
information from DOGE. I guess the protesters probably angry at
Elon Musk, but people who haven't even been born yet
have been filing jobless claims. Okay, that among other new
revelations from the Department of Government Efficiency, which apparently will

(10:27):
continue even after Elon Musk leaves. Thank you to the
Trump administration for creating the concept and for bringing to
our attention, generally and collectively speaking, Republicans, Democrats, independence, communist, socialists,
and all political stripes the insanity and waste of government
don't go away.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'd be right back about krc DE Talk Station. Have
to try.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
A little motorhead and get you out of bed, as
his tradition, money talent.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Thanking Sean for pumping up the jam there.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Let us see here, I wanted to get to this
doughs thing real quick. And it's you know again, within
the context of people protesting Elon Musk, Evil Elon Musk
former the Savior of the planet. With his electric vehicles
that don't commit any carbon or pollutants. He invented rocket
ships that can land themselves like a nineteen fifties science

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fiction movie, employees hundreds of thousands of people. He rescued
astronauts from outer space, and he didn't do it personally.
But you know, he's a brilliant businessman. He's a brilliant
man himself. But he assembled a team of geniuses who
effectively run these countries or these companies. And that's what
he's trying to turn the government into an efficient, well
oiled machine. Somebody's got to do it. It's respect for

(11:56):
your labor. Ultimately, the taxpayer dollars that you sent to Washington,
and they just don't give a crap about how they
spend them. They're not interested in keeping the and minding
the bottom line. Because they don't have to mind that
they don't create something, they don't you know, build, or
they don't provide goods or services that you and I
would consume that will be profitable. They subsist on your

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labor with zero obligation like a fiduciary obligation to properly
spend it and mind the store. So what do we
find out when doach comes in, they start looking around
and like, holy crap. So here's the latest release. Department
of Government Efficiency posted serve unemployment insurance claims since twenty twenty.

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They found individuals under the age of five as well
as over the age of one hundred and fifteen, claiming
millions of dollars in benefits. This is based upon an
initial underscore of the word because I'm sure there are
more revelations to come. Survey of Unemployment Insurance Claims again
since twenty twenty, revealing the twenty eight thousand individuals between

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the ages of one and five.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Pre K through twelve.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Collected two hundred and fifty four million dollars in benefits,
and men go, well, you know, government spends billions and
billions every single day. I don't care. This goes back
to the whole point. Mind the pennies, the dollars, mind themselves.
Twenty four thousand, five hundred individuals over the age of

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one hundred and fifteen claim fifty nine million dollars in benefits.
And if that's not bad enough, the real shocker in
this seven hundred individuals, and I use the term loosely
because they don't exist yet. Seven hundred individuals with birth

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dates fifteen years in the future claims sixty nine million
dollars in benefits court to the release from the Department
of Government Efficiency. In one case, someone with a birth
date in twenty one p. Fifty four claim forty one
thousand dollars. So all those you know there's aborted babies

(14:39):
out there that the left wing loves to talk about.
They're claiming unemployment insurance court to the Elon Musk state.
But your tax dollars are going to pay fraudulent unemployment
claims for fake people born in the future. Sure, this

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is so crazy that I had to read it several
times before it sank in. He continued. The oldest living
American is one hundred and fourteen years old, so it's
safe to say that anyone one hundred and fifteen or
older is collecting unemployment due to being dead? No sanity

(15:23):
check for impossibly young or impossibly old people for unemployment insurance.
You see what I'm talking about here, something that's so
easy to figure out. You know, we have maybe outdated,
antiquated computer systems that are dealing with these various claims
in these various administrations. But how difficult do you think

(15:46):
it could possibly be? I mean, you call interest it
Dave Hatterill come over and figure this crap out, and
probably about five minutes. Do we have anybody in the
system that has a birthday that makes them older than
the oldest living human being in the Yeah, we've got
hundreds of thousands of them.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well let's stop that from happening.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Labor Secretary Lori Chavez d Raymer said, another incredible discovery
by the DOGE team finding nearly four hundred million dollars
in fraudulent unemployment payments. We will catch these thieves and
keep working to root out egregious fraud. Accountability is here. Yeah,
I want to see some serious prosecutions on this. I

(16:31):
want to see people locked up. I want examples made
and to everybody behind the scenes working in these various
departments over the years. Where in the hell have you been.
Why did it take the reelection of Donald Trump and
the creation of the Department of Governmental Efficiency?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Why?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean, and look what a short period of time.
It's only been since January that they started doing their work.
And look at all that we have learned since January.
Joe Biden is sleep at the wheel. His administration obviously
didn't lift a finger. And listen, We'll go back to
prior administrations, including the former Trump administration. And I know

(17:15):
he had a lot on his plate. They kept him
in court most of the time. He was fighting impeachment
hearings left and right, and all the other revelations that
were going on. We had a lot on our plate.
But this problem, this seemingly easily solvable problem, has been
going on, probably for decades. Your labor wasted and a

(17:45):
wide open door, an opportunity for fraud existing with a
seemingly simple solution. Let's just check the data and see
if we've got dead people on the rolls. Let's just
check the data to see if someone who hasn't been
born yet is receiving unemployment benefits. Five twenty six fifty

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five k CD Talk station local stories, including the Bengals
request for three hundred and fifty million dollars this after
the they approved the budget in Columbus the other day.
Oh whoops, wait a minute, can we have our slice.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
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(18:52):
Congressman Warren David said, O the program yesterday. Great conversation
with him. Always appreciate that, and of course I love
talking with Jay Ratliff, our aviation expert. And George Brunneman
joined the program as well. So also it being Lenton season,
the Lenten fish Fry Friday list is posted up on
the page today, so thanks for adding that.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Sean.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well, it's going to the pund so here before we
get to the local stories, Pete, welcome to the program. In
a very Happy Friday to you, sir.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Thanks Brian and the subject of incarcerating all these people
that are stealing us blind. It costs US thirty six
thousand dollars a year to incarcerate somebody. I think they
should have a program and give them a choice of
house arrests or incarceration. But with the house arrest comes
an ankle bracelet where they can only go to work

(19:43):
and then take a percentage of what they earn a
payback what they owe, and if they violate the terms
of that, then they do get the incarceration, but get
the money back for our country instead of paying out thirty.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Six thousand dollars, you're to keep these.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Plows and also leave them with a felony hanging over them.
They could get eliminated if they pay everything back and
stay within the program.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, it's an idea. All I know is is ankle
monitor bracelet things don't really work very well, and you
have to pay people to monitor them. And can you
imagine the thousands of people that would have to be
monitored with ankle bracelets. The resources necessary to do that
alone would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Listen, I
understand the cost of prison, but you know prison is
a terrible place. It's a living hell. It is an

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absolute nightmare. You wouldn't want to be there. One of
the reasons I don't believe in the death penalty. I
don't mind paying thirty six thousand dollars years in an American
taxpayer to keep someone in a living hell if they're
deserving in the death penalty, because I don't believe the
state should be able to take someone's life. But they're
in there for the rest of their life, and every
day they wake up realizing they're never getting out. That

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to me is hell on earth. And maybe it's worth
the American taxpayer dollars to put them through hell on
earth for stealing from us.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't have any easy solutions of those problems, quite honestly,
but you know what think about being in prison, especially
if you're a child in mo Lester. Anyway, thank you
WCPO for reporting. I'll give you props to let us
see here. Dan Monk and paula Christian Since an Bengals

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in Hemon County asking Ohio lawmakers daylight and dollars short
for the ask, it's been three hundred and fifty million
dollars on renovations the pay Corpse Stadium. As they write
Dan and Paula, the surprise request comes after the House
already passed the budget, which gave the Cleveland Brown six
hundred million dollars of state bonds to build the domed stadium. Anyway,

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the joint request asked for roughly forty two percent of
an eight hundred and thirty million dollars pay Course stadium renovation, which,
without citation or authority, they say, predicted to trigger five
hundred million dollars in new investment at the Bank's entertainment district. Okay,

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where did that figure come from? But and there's always
a big butt around but Senate Financial Jerry Sereno said
that no one from the Bengals or Hamilton County had
reached out to him about the project. This would be
the man responsible for budgeting up in the Upper Columbus
Governor Mike Dwine also described as surprise at the request.

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He met with then Hamilton County Commissioner president of Alisheriz
last summer about stadium funding, but said he never heard
anything further or any specifics on the proposal.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I've not seen anybody in the state legislator put this forward.
Their discussion with me was a general deon. I got
the impression that they in the Bengals, had not reached
any kind of agreement. Governor de Wine speaking with WCPO
oh really oh, my House Finance Committee Chairman Brian Stewart

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back in or April. First, it's not an accident. This
amendment is designed to refer to the Cleveland Browns proposal only.
That will be the amendment in the budget which only
qualifies counties with at least one million dollars to get
any money for sports complexes and facilities. House Finance Committee

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Chairman Brian Stewart, Ashville Republican said the Bengals never asked
to be written into the bill. Quote, we've not received
an asked about any other proposal. Okay, that may be coming,
but it was not on my desk at the time
this budget is done. You feel we are incompetent hands
here in Hamilton County in connection with a course stadium

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five thirty six. If you five carsen talk station, don't
go away, William, I will be happy to take your
call as soon as.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
We return and stick around.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Of course we can even when Joe's not here. Jeffrey
I know you're happy. I have a listener, Jeffrey, you

(24:39):
always chimes in, can't wait till five forty. I got
my base out. Let's go to the phone before I
get to the stack of stupid. I've got a couple
of callers online, which I always enjoy. Let's start with William,
who was first in line. Tom hang on, William, Welcome
to the program and happy Friday to you.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Sir Bryan.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
You make so much good points. But the thing it
really gives me a buzzaboo is that these lawyers are
I mean not lawyers. I'm sorry, the judges of Keith
interfering with the progress of us moving forward. I mean,

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there's got to be some way that this can stop.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, we need better informed voters. If the majority of
folks want tough being, want people to be tough on
law enforcement, as opposed to these woke lawyers. These you know,
I don't know what is in the name of social justice.
You and I are responsible for electing them. And when
we see that they you know, low bond or no

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bond for violent criminals, not looking out for society. They
give zero prison sentence for people who've been convicted going
through due process beyond a reasonable doubt, and yet they
are given a slap on the hand. Then we need
to do something about it. We have no one to
blame but ourselves. Under the current system, all the way
judges are are elected. So you're right, I'm not arguing

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with you, but it's our own fault societies.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Thank you there, Brien, there's no argument. But the thing
is is that the but the Biden administration, they've seen
what's coming. I mean, these people seeing what's coming down
the road and they elected like five hundred and fifty.

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I may be wrong, but these judge Oh.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
You're talking about judicial appointments.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Absolutely, Every administration gets the opportunity to appoint judges and
you and I have no control over that. But as voters,
we do have control over who's president and who we elect.
And of course under the Trump administration, you're not going
to get a bunch of woke judges appointed to the
federal bench. Once they're there, they're there. I mean, elections
have consequences and they have lasting consequences. Look at the

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makeup of the Supreme Court. Nothing pisses the liberals off
as much as the makeup of the Supreme Court and
they're angry and they know elections have consequences as well.
But fortunately the opportunity to appoint Supreme Court justice came
up under yah Republican administration. So while you have a
goofy sort of makeup, it's still a five to four

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most of the time conservative leaning court, which means strict
constitutional interpretation as opposed to judicial activism, which is basically
I mean, at least on one levels, a lot of
us to secure and maintain our Second Amendment right to
keep in bare arms, among other decisions that have come
out of this Supreme Court, you know, pairing back of

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the administrative state by virtue of the for example, the
West Virginia versus EPA decision, No, you can't call a
tablespoon of water on private property a navigable stream. You know,
there's been some great decisions. Had we as an American
population gone different direction and not elected Trump during the
first term, we would not have the makeup of the
Supreme Court, and we would have a federal government that

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would override and trample upon our rights even more than
they're already doing. You know, I mean, what more can
you say about the process. This is the way our
country is run. It's the way it works, and we
deal with the consequences of bad decisions. Joe Biden being
elected bad decision. I know some say it was stolen,
whether or not we ended up with him. Look what happened.

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Five forty five if you five KR City talk station,
get five fifty two if you have Ksity talk station
and jumping over to the phones. Tom's been waiting, Tom,
thanks for holding over the break.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Welcome in the morning shown Brian.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
So, I got a question for you. When you go
to sleep at night, do you leave every light on
in your house all night long, all year round?

Speaker 7 (28:52):
No?

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Okay, So these Bengals owners, I don't know the county pays,
leaves those lights on that stadium all night long, every
day of the year. Really want to waste the money.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I'll grant you that I was not aware that that
was the case. I really was not. I remember the
old days, remember the energy crisis in the nineteen seventies.
Prior to that, they used to do the light up
Cincinnati nights was you know, across the country they do
light up Chicago, light up New York, and people would
leave the lights on intentionally. And then we had an
energy crisis, and then it was beat make sure you
turned the lights off. There were little signs above the switches,

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turn the lights off, save energy. So yeah, I think
it's an important thing to do. And I don't know
why they leave them on. Maybe it's just to make
the skyline look prettier, but yeah, taxpayer expense, yeah, and
light pollution. Good point, David, Welcome to the Morning Show.
Thanks for calling on a happy Friday to you, sir.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Thanks to you.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
Brian.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (29:50):
I was talking about the judges previous collar before the
time there, and I understand you made them. You made
them when I was thinking that once they're appointed, there's.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
Nothing good about it.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
This is how it is.

Speaker 9 (30:04):
I guess you can't tire them like I think you
can't some judges, but may you're.

Speaker 10 (30:08):
Not certain judges and the way you said.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
We elect the judges and stuff for or no matters
of dinner and prow to repose. And so my point
is it seems like that even though I guess there's
no black and white when it comes to law, because
they judge depending on his I guess, uh political way
of thinking. Uh, that's how you just want to think
about it. And uh, it's not going to be. I

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don't think it's real fair. I don't think there's no
such thing as a blind justice anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, you obviously didn't call looking for an argument. You know,
there are so many law schools that teach and preach
this idea of the you know, uh, the sort of
judicial activism as if a judge sitting on the bench
is in a position to sort of legislate from the bench,
that is not their role. Their role is to interpret
the law within the confines of the Constitution United States

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of America or the States, or in the case of
criminal law, dispense justice and of course sentence within the
confines of the sentencing regulations. I mean, at least those
are defined very clearly. You can be light on sentencing
or strict on sentencings, but they come within you know,
written guidelines. But as far as judicial activism, it's concerned

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a lot of people believe the Constitution is this living, breeding, evolving,
you know, capable of being molded into whatever current reality.
And going back to the Second Amendment thing, that was
the point of that that very important decision that was
handed down. What what were the found what was on
the laws, what were the what was the realities of
the right to keep in bear arms At the time

(31:42):
the Founding fathers enshrined the Second Amendment right to keep
in bear arms, very few restrictions. I mean, you get
have a twelve year old with a rifle and that
was aoka and understood and perfectly abceptible. Back then, were
there issues with you know, young people maybe discharging firearms
or going crazy with them running them. I imagine they're
probably were because there's always been crazy people and accidents

(32:03):
have always happened. But they took that into consideration. So
a strict construction is a properly within the confines and
the meaning of the Constitution says, listen, you have the
right to keep the bear arms. Or if, for example,
it's not within the constitution some federal power that they

(32:26):
seek to control our mind, our lives is not within
the powers vested in the federal government, then I'm sorry,
it's extra constitutional, ergo fundamentally illegal. Now some liberal person
with this broad interpretation of this living, breathing constitution and
documents say well, you know, well it isn't within the

(32:47):
confines of the Constitution, and it's not expressly written there
I can determine that, and then they'll come up with
some reasoning to say that it's a okay.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
They teach that stuff in law school. You have strict
construction is.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
You know, law professors, and you got these liberal people
who say you can pretty much say anything from the bench.
They're out there and they're everywhere. You need to keep
that in mind when you're voting, and quite frankly, when
it comes to federal judges and lifetime appointments, unless they
do something that's illegal or that is subject them to impeachment,
and that's few and far between, you're stuck with them.

(33:25):
Fivefty seven, fifty five KARSD Talk Station. I'll be right
back after the news six o five, a fifty five
KARSD talk station. A very happy Friday to you, Brian Thomas.
Looking forward to the bottom of the hour as I
always do every Friday at six thirty Tech Friday with
Dave had Or. Today, a car exploit allows you to
spy on drivers in real time. That's creepy new or

(33:45):
police department sending drones to nine one one calls. That's
creepy and also creepy. The latest tech car technology is
starting to drive people nuts. So or we'll report bottom
of the hour Friday with Dave at or one hour
from Roy Davis joins the program the Trust and Valor program.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
We're going to learn all about that.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's a program that is designed for veterans and first
responders involving horses.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Daniel Davis deep dive.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Daniel couldn't join the program on Tuesday to a technical difficulty,
so today we get Daniel Davis probably giving us a
further update on Russia and Ukraine, including the NATO countries
meeting the other day to talk about troop deployment in
the event that's some negotiated peace deal. The logistic on
that one is kind of a comical, given that the
European Union pretty much gave up on funding their military

(34:30):
or building up arms or the ability to defend themselves
in the absence of the United States for the past
multiple decades. So anywhile, I mean, most of them are
kind of stepping up to the plate now realizing that
they're in a precarious position in the absence of the
United States defense dollars and troop presents. They can't defend themselves,

(34:52):
and that comes at a great cost of the American taxpayer.
Captain Douglas Earnest the book. At eight o'clock, we'll talk
about the spirit of a true Patriot, the inspiring storre
of retired Captain Douglas Ernst Ernest and military pastor David
Scarlett joins the program at eight thirty to talk about
his book All for His Glory, The Near Death Experience of.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
A Modern Day Job.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Apparently died and came back five on three, seven, four,
nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to
three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones.
I may have to get into the stack of stupid
since I didn't do any stack of stupid in the
last hour, since I had phone calls, which is always
a preference. But I have to go back to this
two things. I started the program first with a thanks

(35:31):
to the Warren kind of Republican Party for allowing me
to be there, and actually introduced the next governor of
the state of Ohio, Vivek Ramaswami. Brilliant man. He is
get in touch with his campaign. Help him out. He's
so far ahead in terms of the primaries. I don't
I think the other candidates, as decent as you may
think they are, should probably drop out. He's got more
endorsements than you can shake a stick at already, and

(35:53):
the election isn't until next November. But brilliant, dynamic, and
husiastic speaker. And again I'll go back to my Reagan analogy.
When you hear Vivek speak, you get a real sense
of optimism about the future of the state of Ohio,
a true sense of optimism. And he's got great ideas

(36:15):
for the state. So I think he's going to be
a wonderful governor. And thanks to everybody that came to
the Warren County event last night, what a fantastic time.
And again the protesters outside, what the hell was your point?
I mean, I really don't get it. Obviously, you have
way too much time on your hands. Spend some time
with your family, go it's dinner time, be at home,

(36:36):
cook yourself up a meal, and spend some time with
family or friends. Or maybe they don't have family or
friends and they have nothing better to do than stand
outside with a stupid sign that nobody read. Because we're
busy driving into the parking lot and avoiding running into someone,
because we don't want to stop in the middle of
the road and look at your stupid signs.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Anyhow, I have newer listeners and say o'clock hour, that
mean this is going to sound redundant from the five
o'clock hour. But this whole revelation from DOES yesterday is
just mind boggling, revealing the absolute stupidity of our federal
government when comes to mining our taxpayer dollars. Something as
simplistic as looking through the system and figuring out if

(37:17):
there were people that are dead or not even born
yet are getting unemployment benefits. So, I mean, we've dealt
with the Social Security Department and the problems and they
ferreed it out that unemployment insurance claim since twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Just twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Forward, twenty four thousan five hundred people over the age
of one hundred and fifteen years old claim fifty nine
million dollars in benefits fraud much twenty eight thousand people
between the ages of one and five claimed unemployment benefits
to the two hundred and fifty four million dollars, and

(37:57):
even crazier and seven people with birth dates in the
future over fifteen years in the future, including one with
a birth date of twenty one to fifty four that
claimed forty one thousand benefits, but these collective nine thou
seven hundred people that haven't been born yet claimed sixty
nine million dollars. According to DOJE, California, New York, and

(38:22):
Massachusetts accounted for most of these improper claims, totaling three
hundred and five million in unemployment benefits. Additionally, they said
California accounted for sixty eight percent of the unemployment benefits
paid to parolees identified the customs, identified by the Customs
and Border Patrol, on the terrorist watch list, or with
criminal records.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Have fun going to.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Work today realizing that this is the kind of crap
that goes on with the federal government and its refusal
to pay any attention whatsoever to how they're spending your money,
and you're going to protest them.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
This is the kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
It needs to be repeated over and over and over
again to these idiots that stand around with signs saying
Elon Musk is a Nazi or something.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I mean, you can't make this up.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
And thanks to WCPS reporting this, this could come from
the stack. Is stupid regarding his pay court stadium upgrade. Again,
props to Dan Monk and paula Christian for writing about
this and providing a little bit more details than any
of the other news outlets. I reviewed this story over
the since I have Bengals and Hamilton Kenny asking Ohio
lawmakers to spend three hundred and fifty million dollars for

(39:41):
renovations to pay Corps after the House passed the budget
the other day.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Whoops.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Of course that included six hundred million dollars in state
bonds for the Cleveland brown so they can build their
two point seven billion dollar mega complex, funded in large
part on the Ohio taxpayer dollars. This joint request from
the Bengals and Hamilton County asked the state for forty
two percent of the eight hundred and thirty million dollars

(40:12):
pay Course stadium renovation. And I love this. These fun
facts are what makes it to stack a stupid story. Apparently,
Senate Finance Committee or Senate Finance Chairman Jerry Sereno said
that nobody from the Bengals or Hamilton County ever reached
out to him about the request.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
You wonder what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I mean, this whole lease deal problem has been you know,
something you could see from ten miles away, I mean
from the moment the contract was signed.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
As bad as it was, you knew at this point
in time was coming.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
You were gonna have to deal with the stadium upgrades.
You're gonna have to negotiate terms of conditions, and if
it involved our elected body in Columbus, that you're gonna
have to start working with them early in the process
to maybe get the state dollars that you're now asking for.
After the budget was passed, Governor of Wine apparently well

(41:06):
described as surprise at the request. Last summer, he met
with Alicia Reese, then Hamilton County Commissioned President, but he
said he'd never heard anything further from her or any
specifics of any proposal that was last summer. Speaking with WCPO,
Dwine said in an interview quote, I've not seen anybody

(41:28):
in the state legislature put this forward, meaning the request
that they're asking for now. Their discussion with me was general.
I got the impression that day and the Bengals had
not reached any kind of agreement. Well, I suppose he's
right on that, because my understanding they haven't reached an agreement.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Dwine, for his part, renewed his call for state lawmakers
to pay for stadium projects wherever they may be, with
a twenty percent increase on how sports betting tax. But
that wasn't in the budget. What wasn't the budget specifically
excluded anything involving the Bengals because the bond issue is

(42:09):
limited to counties with at least one million people. Of course,
Cuyahoga County meets that. Hamilton County does not because we
don't have more than a million people in the county.
So the ask itself is outside of the confines of
what can even be asked for since it's a stadium
project in a county that with less than a million people.

(42:31):
And of course House Committee Chairman Brian Stewart told reporters
back in April first the point of that one million
people county requirement. This is not an accident, he said.
This amendment is designed to refer to the Cleveland Browns
proposal only. Man, the Cleveland Brown family must be really connected.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Huh.

Speaker 11 (42:51):
I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to
leave you wallowing in the mess you've made.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
You're screwed. Thank you, bike.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Well played. Sean asked for a Republican going back again.
House Finance Committee Chairman Brian Stewart quote, we've not received
and asked about any other proposal, okay, meaning referring to
the Cleveland Browns proposal. They had asked for it, They
told them what they wanted. We got this two point
seven billion dollar megacomplex dome stadium thing that we want

(43:23):
to build the suburbs. Here it is, here's how much
money we want. They had lobbyists lobbying for it, and
obviously it worked really well. As for the Bengals project, quote,
we've not received an asked about any other proposal. Okay.
That may be coming, but it was not on my
desk at the time. This budget is done.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
I want a dollar.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Also reported by WACPO in this article, the Bengals don't
have a state lobbyist at present. The Browns have five
that according to the Ohio Lobbying Activity Center. Also report
of the Bengals lost a key ally in the House
this year when Republican Bill Sites retired. The Governor wouldn't

(44:20):
say whether he would veto portions of the House budget
if it isn't altered by the Senate, and that maybe
the last leg upon which the Bengals stands is maybe
a modification by the Senate. Dwayne said, I just want
to make it very clear that we do not have
this money. Of course, referring back to the tax that
he wanted to impose on sports betting, we do not

(44:42):
have this money. If he just bonded the money that
the Browns want, that's a billion dollars over a pair
to twenty five years, it's about forty two dollars or
forty two to forty five million every year out of
the budget. We do not have that money. We can't
take it away from education. There's a pathway, but that's

(45:02):
not the pathway. So clearly Governor to one is not
happy about this provision either. And now the Bengals are
going in a day late and a dollars short. For
another ask, Charlie foxtrot comes to mind. My military friends
know exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't get

(45:23):
the joke, well then you can look up Charlie Foxtrott
and find out for yourself. Because of course, the FCC
does not allow me to say out loud what that
means six seventeen, feel free to call five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty eight hundred two three talk pound fly
fifty on at and two phone six a fig about

(45:44):
car CD Talk Nation. Very very very happy Friday, David, Yeah,
extra special. As I segue into a week of vacation,
Dan Carroll covering for me Monday through Thursday, with Kevin
Gordon taking care of Friday, and thanks and advanced both
those guys for let me sleep in taking a mental

(46:05):
health week off, getting away from the insanity that I
read about every single day. You know it really is.
It can bear on you after a while, well positively okay,
and recognizing again going back to Doge's work and the
realization that we find out that hundreds of thousands, I
can't remember the specific number of illegal immigrants ended up

(46:26):
receiving Social Security numbers and actually voted in elections, which
is illegal. The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act cleared the
House yesterday. Question mark whether it's going to get to
the Senate. House voter in favor of the SAVE Act,
which requires proof of citizensship to vote in federal elections.
Vote two twenty to two oh eight. All Republicans that

(46:51):
were there voted in support of the SAVE Act, only
four Democrats And do you scratch your head and wonder
about that election integrity anyway. SAVE Act amend's a national
voter Registration Act in nineteen ninety three, requiring proof of
US citizenship to registered to vote for federal elections. It

(47:15):
lists several forms of valid identification to proof citizenship.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of
the Real ID Act of two thousand and five that
includes the applicant is a citizen of the United States,
namely a valid US passport, US Military ID alongside a
military record of service showing the applicant's place of birth
was the United States, A valid government issued photo ID
showcasing that the individual was born in the US birth

(47:41):
certificate issued by a state. Chip Roy primary sponsor quote.
Despite the ridiculous attacks and purposeful misinformation spread about the bill,
and pleased to see that the House of Representatives once
again passed the SAVE Act on a well he called
it bipartisan basis, barely to ensure only US citizens vote
in election. So I'd like to thanks Speaker Johnson, Chairman Steele,

(48:04):
and Senator Mike Lee for partnering with me on this effort.
In order to preserve this republic, we must uphold what
it means to be able to vote in the United
States elections. I'm grateful to my colleagues answer the call
and pass the Save Act. Yeah me too. Election integrity.

(48:26):
There's a whole lot more work to do, though. Stick
around Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. We'll start out with
a car exploit that allows you to spy on drivers
in real time. Sounds creepy, probably will be. Things are
usually creepy in the Tech Friday Report. For the nationally
recognized and award winning segment we call tech Friday with Dave.

(48:49):
How it brought to you my interest I find on
my line at interestIt dot com. Because if you're a company,
you have computers and you may very well have problems,
maybe not right now, but in the future. Because Davie
you all the reasons why you will probably end up
with problems and all the ways to avoid it. So
get Dave and the team on your job to avoid
them and give you best practices and ensure your systems

(49:09):
are safe and scire. Welcome back to the morning show,
Dave hat Or, love talking to you.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Always good to be here, Brian. I feel the same way,
and holpeful they're doing some good out there.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Well, yeah, I mean also freaking people out. I didn't
get the article because Joe's not here and it doesn't matter,
but I know what the topic is. Tell us about
this car exploit that allows you to spy on drivers
in real time.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yeah, so this is just one of many, I would say, Brian.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
You may recall we talked about this briefly the Mozilla
privacy non included website and their expose of newer model cars.
I think it was the end of twenty twenty three
when it came out. But this is pointing out though.
Just reiterate something you and I talk about all the time.
The so called Internet of things.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Aaka smart devices.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You're smart coffee maker, your smart TV, a stat your doorbell,
and now your car are vulnerable in the same way
that your computers are because essentially everything is computed at right.
It's got computer chips, and it's got software embedded in
it that gives it the wile factor and cool functionality
that people like, including your car. And you may recall, Brian,

(50:18):
way back we talked about a Wired article where a
reporter worked with two hackers and they were able to
remotely control this jeep Jeep Grand Cherokee while the reporter
was driving. They did all kinds of things to it
caused a giant recall back in the day. And this
is another illustration of this where in this case this
is a third party pioneer head unit right, pioneered the

(50:41):
people that.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Make car stereo and stereo equipment.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
But they hackers, you know they're thankfully, Brian, there are
good people out there, white hat hackers, trying to find
vulnerabilities in these products, inform the manufacturers, get them fixed,
and frankly, inform the public at large about why so
many of these things are privacy and security dumpster buyers.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Basically doing the job that the manufacturer should have done
ahead of time to avoid this stuff from happening in
the first place. As you always point out, they don't
think about privacy and security when they're building these devices.
They just rush to get the device out because it
does something really cool, but failed to incorporate the requisite
security measures in there.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
Excellent summary.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
Well, I was going to say almost the exact same thing,
which is again, their whole privacy model or their whole
business model on most of this IoT stuff is backwards.
It's market share, speed to market ease, of use for
the consumer, not privacy and security. And you know, at
one time it would be bad if there was a
buzz in software and.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
You could do your job.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
But now everything is that are connected. You have systems
that interface with and if it's a manufacturer system control
your car, which means your vehicle could potentially get hacked
and be turned into a weapon.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
Of some sort.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
You and I have talked about that many times the
pass and you know, I'm not the only person saying this.
There are lots of people in the industry and security
experts that are warning about this kind of thing. But
in this case, the hackers went to a conference and
demonstrated that they could chain together various flaws and the
software inside this thing, and once they had access to it. Now, admittedly,
you either have to get hotspot access to it or

(52:20):
you have to have physical access to it, so it's
not as easy as just and over the air exploit
to this head unit. But you know, if you're tak
it in for repairs, could it get hacked. Could someone
get in your car, you know, perhaps a spurned spouse
or lover. I mean, they lay all these things down
in the article, but the bottom line is once it's
been hacked. Yes, they can basically see who you're calling,

(52:41):
they can watch you where you're driving, and do a
variety of other things. Not nearly as bad as some
of the manufacturer based systems that have been hacked, because
you know, they interface directly with the systems of the car,
the brakes, the engine, that sort of thing. So yeah,
you know, before you go out and you change the
electronics in your car nowadays, you know, I'm sure Brian,

(53:04):
like me, your old enough ter day it's like, well,
I'm going to upgrade the stereo of my car because
the thing that came from the manufacturer is no good,
right Delco.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Yeah or something right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
And you didn't have to worry about these kind of
things then, right, because you know it was just you know, or.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Maybe just hold on one second. Explains something to me.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
First off, that people still replace they had units in
their car. So that's that's the thing. I guess. That
means you bought an older car that doesn't have one
of those you know, built in wired up to the
entire system sort of units. You buy a substitute unit
from Pioneer. It's got a camera in it that records
the inside of the automobile.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Uh, some of them do because they want to give
you a video capability, just like the stuff that's built
into the car.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Why in the hell would I want video of me
driving the car?

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Well, I didn't mean think about it, Brian, I don't know. Again, I'm,
as you know, against almost all of this.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
No, I know, but I'm just it is a fundamental proposition.
Why I mean, exterior of the car to record accidents
or you know, what's going on around you at least
have some comprehension of why you might want that. But
you know, picking my nose or eating a sandwich or
doing whatever I'm doing in my car. I don't need
a video record of anything going on to the inside
of the car.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I agree with the wholehearted thing.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Okay, people Still, people still replace the head units in cars.
You know, you can buy these and really advanced ones
that sound better. It's getting harder though, because you know, again,
most of these so called infotainment systems in modern cars
are deeply integrating the overall folks now of the car.
It's not just a radio anymore, right, oh, all kinds
of things. So, but they make like replacement kits because

(54:43):
to your point. You know, the thing is a weird shape.
They do it by design. It takes up all this
weird space. You got to have a special kit. But
apparently there are still companies out there making their you know,
aftermarket stereo systems for your car, and like most of
this IoT stuff, they have.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
A lot of the same problems.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
So while you know, I would be careful about upgrading
your cars systems simply because of the impact on the car,
you have to think about this kind of stuff. And
the bigger point is Internet of things in general, moldering, dumpster.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Fire period every week, the reminder and you can't say
it enough day maybe people will start listening to you
don't hook your coffee maker up to the internet. Five
six point thirty seven will continue with Dave. Apparently they're
sending drones to nine to one one calls in New York.
You dreaming of a smile is brilliant and forty outcrecy
De talk station check right with Dave Hatter. All right,

(55:34):
so Eric said, you might want to be able to
have that camera in your car to track your kids driving,
which I guess I kind of get, but he said
recording passengers. He said, for like Uber lift people. They
may want that, but you know, I guess you can
just go ahead and get one of those independent, non
Internet connected cameras and just put it on your your

(55:55):
your windshield and record the passengers in the car.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
That's not something that I have any concern or care
about and think it's either it's creepy and stupid, but
Internet of Things is the broader point on that one.
Moving on New York Police Department using drones.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Yeah, this is an interesting story, and I think this
is unavoidable Brian, and probably happening in other places.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
And this particular writer.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Seems to not be a fan of the NYPD based
on the tone of this article. But again, you know,
drones get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and more and
more capable, whether it's you know, the flight time, it's altitude,
it's the cameras, microphones, et cetera in the drone.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
So I'm not saying I don't I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Don't misunderstand what I'm saying I think, but I think
it's inevitable that we're headed in this direction because you know,
they mentioned here these particular drones that the NYPD are
using can go forty five miles an hour. Obviously, they
can fly in a straight line. So if you have
some sort of unfolding event, even something like a bankrupt
it doesn't have to be a arrist vent or something, right,

(57:01):
you can get eyes on the scene quickly understand what
you're up against. But the point they make, which I
fully agree with, is as these drones get smaller and
more capable, you know, they can hover high enough that
you can't hear or see them. Yet when they're telephoto lens,
they can zoom in on you see what's in your hands.
This article claims that these particular devices the NYPP are

(57:22):
using can recognize people and license plates from a mile away.
And the concern, yeah, the concern they're raising is that, okay,
you send out the drone to wherever you know alleged
crime is taking place, Well, it has the potence with
to suck up everything in its path along the way. Right,
So you know you're just out for a stroll, and
you know now you're you're on the drone footage. I

(57:44):
know that you know you have no expectation of privacy
out in public, indeed, but you know I have some
concerns about this again, I think it's inevitable, but I
think it's important for people to understand and there ought
to be a public conversation about this kind of technology
and do we want this sort of super invasive technology.
You know, you're in your backyard. The drone is up there,

(58:06):
it's you know, hovering around, it's filming you, you know,
with parabolic microphones. I don't know how far away you
could probably listen to you. I'm sure it pretty far,
I know, that's the thing. So yeah, it's interesting to
see where all this is going. And again, I just
don't see a way around it, because it's only going
to get less and less expensive to put this sort

(58:27):
of technology out there, Sue.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
That's why I'm a fan of sporting clays and skeet
and trap shooting. Dave, Yeah, me too, you know how
to lead?

Speaker 12 (58:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
The other thing that I think about is that there
are so many satellites up there, and they have to
be positioned properly so they don't run into each other
in outer space. And I don't know how they manage
that with the thousands and thousands of satellites. But I'm
thinking of, you know, someday in the very near future,
all these drones are flying around, and then we have
these individual car sized drones and fly people around and

(58:59):
drone taxis. You know at some point we're gonna have
a lot of mid air accidents and collisions.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Yeah, I mean, you have to be super confident in
the technology for these things to avoid each other. And
you know, obviously we don't have enormous amount of these
things now, but I think over time you're just going
to see more and more of it. And to your point, Briant,
larger one air taxis that sort of thing, And as
far fettered as that may sound, I think it's company.

(59:27):
There are already companies claiming to be able to do this. Now.
I'd be the first to say, not a chance I'll
ride in any of these things anytime soon, because I
don't trust the software in cars rolling on the ground,
much less something's flying me around. But you know, I
believe certainly within our lifetime you're going to see a
lot more of these things. And you know, there are

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instances where these things fail, fall out of the sky,
hit something, hit somebody. Again, I'm not too too worried
about that, but when you think about this from a
survey perspective. And you know you mentioned the satellite right.
We know there have been satellites in the sky that
can you know, read something in your hand and that
sort of thing for a long time. But to your point,

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they have to be positioned. They only fly over every
so often, or they're stuck in one place. You know,
this gives you, This gives a government entity the capability
for a relatively small amount of money to surveil you
or anything they want, pretty much any time they want,
for as long.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
As they want.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
And you know this is going to be abused, Brian,
I mean, think about it. We've seen we've seen examples
of companies like ADP where their technicians go in and
you know, set up cameras to film attractive women in
their house. I mean, it's well documented. People have gone
to jail over there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Well, look, you know that we know the NSA is
soaking up and basically soaking up every piece of data, email,
text message that anybody in the United States or anywhere
else in the world sends. So if our own government's
doing it, you know nefarious actors are going to take
hold of this technology and too for nefarious purposes. It's
just it's so obvious. Oh well, we live in a
frightening or wellian world.

Speaker 9 (01:01:03):
Day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
You prove it every single week.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
But again, and I mean, I think all at this point,
all you can really do is be aware, you know,
act accordingly, and then you know, try to raise awareness
with other people and talk to your legislators and you know,
see what you can do to try to keep as
much of this teenie in the bottle as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yeah, back to cars.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
And it's interesting because then the article is talking about this,
they have another article about how your modern car is
spying on you and you don't know it kind of
back to our first segment, and I encourage people go
out and check out privacy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Not included in particular the exposity.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
On modern cars. But this is all about and I
get this because I have a newer car.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
It's like at twenty eighteen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
And my wife has a newer car.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
It's like at.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Twenty nineteen, and you know, almost everything in it is
no longer mechanical, right, everything is electronic.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
You've got to go to the entertainment screen, or you've got.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Some kind of weird control that's not very precise, versus
just I want to I just want to press the
button and go to a certain channel, or I want
to turn on the air conditioning or turn off the
air conditioning without having to go through fifteen screens to
figure out how to do it right. And that's one
of the things. One of the things they point out.
It's not only irritating for people, because a lot of
you and I agree with this, are increasingly it's not

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only less intuitive. Yes, it's dangerous because you have to
take your eyes off the road button, then you got
to go to another button.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Dave, think about this. It's illegal to use your cell
phone in the state of.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Ohio while you're driving.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
And yet, yeah, they got that giant screen which you
have to use and operate to navigate through, to to
deal with really literally anything you want to do in
the car. How now you drive down the road and
just your air condition You're like, oh, what screen do
I need? And you're staring down at that your your
your your your, your eyes aren't on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Yeah, So that's a pro recent study drivers feelings on
the intuitiveness of car controls cell from seventy nine percent
and twenty fifteen when you've had a lot less of
the text and entertainment and digital buttons and so forth,
to fifty six percent and twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Honestly, I'm surprised it's that high.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Because you know, I can't tell him because I've runted
a car that I'm not familiar with, and then I
have no idea what I'm doing, right, and unlike the
old school. Again, here's a button, it turns on the
air conditioning. Here's a button that turns on the deep roster.
You know, some cars still have some combination of that,
but a lot of it is increasingly digital. And I
get it, but Also, I think the part of the

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people overlook.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
When they think about these things.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
All of this tech is very expensive when it goes bad,
versus I just need to replace a switch that opens
and closes a circuit to turn on the air conditioning
or whatever. You know, if I got to replace the
whole entertainment system.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Very expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
And you know, I think one of the greatest innovations
in cars in the last several decades are backup cameras, right, Yeah,
backup cameras super helpful, reduces a lot of danger. But
you know, when those things go bad, and now cars
have sensors all around them, those things can be extremely
expensive to replace when they go bad, So you're not
only adding to the cost of the car, you're adding

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to the maintenance of the car. And again, I understand
the benefit of some of these things, but I agree
wholeheartedly with this article that most modern cars are a
lot less intuitive in the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Way you operate them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
And I agree with your point, Brian, that it's dangerous
to have to constant kee taking your eyes off the
road to go three screens in to figure out how
to change something you want to change about the environment
or the behavior of the car. I find it very
frustrating person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I'm with you all day long, and I hate
to even admit this out loud, but since we gave
our son the old Honda, we had to replace. We
needed a larger vehicle because we have dogs, we have
a yard, and you have to deal. So anyway, we
got a modern used vehicle and it's got one of
those systems in it. And when they were trying to
upsell us on the extended warranty and it was really

(01:05:32):
expensive for the extended warranty, the guy said, well, you know,
something goes wrong with that. You know that screen, that
infotainment system that's connected literally everything. It's more expensive to
fix that than it is then replacing the engine in
the car.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yeah, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
That was his you know, his upsell. You know it's like,
well it's still under warranty and how often does this happen? Well,
but basically was They don't have any problems with it,
so anyway, it's just it's scary stuff. I mean, I
hate having one of those cars that's literally recording everything.
And you know, to your point about the car spying
on you, that information can be purchased by insurance companies.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Yes, yes it can.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
In fact, you know that was another recent scandal. You
may recall we talked about it briefly. GM had to
come off. They were essentially selling the data collected from
people's cars to insurance companies, and people were getting premium
increases and canceled without voluntarily signing up. It's one thing,
like the progressive thing, right, you get it, you pluge

(01:06:34):
it into your car. You're volunteering to do that because
you know your potents are going to get better raids.
It's another thing, and they talk about that and that
privacy not included thing. I keep referencing about how these
cars are collecting all this data and potentially selling it
to third parties, including your insurance company, who might decide
you're not a good insurable risk based on the driving
heb it's coming from your car. So things to think

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about as we head into this increasingly dystopian world where
everything has sensors in it, and everything wants to track
you if you'll let it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Yeah, it's just so scary. Anyway, important information, know and
think about. Dave Hatter, I always appreciate you bringing it
to our attention every week here in a fifty five
Caresity Morning Show. Look forward to next Friday in another
edition of Tech Friday with Dave Hatter again brought to
you by intrust dot com. Get in touch with Dave
and the team at interust it dot com. Take care Dave,
thank you again. Have a wonderful weekend, and I won't

(01:07:26):
be around next week. I'm taking all week next off,
so I think if you're doing the segment, you'll be
doing it with Kevin Gordon next Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
All right, well, Brian, you enjoy your time off and
I'll look forward to chat with you when you're back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Thanks brother, Take care Man six fifty seven and fifty
five care City Talk Station. We're in here from Troy Day.
The program is Trust and Valor and it's a program
for veterans and first responders. Should be really interesting. Plus
the Daniel Davis Deep Dive Special Friday edition since we
didn't get him on Tuesday. That'll take place at seven thirty.
I'll be right back seven oh six, a fifty five

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KRCD talk station. If everyone's having a happy Friday, I
think this will put a smile on your face. If
you're not having a happy Friday, Welcome to the fifty
five KRC Morning Show from an organization called Mustang Journey.
Troy Day, Troy, Welcome to the show. It's great to
have you on today.

Speaker 7 (01:08:28):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I appreciate what you're doing because I am a huge
supporter of, of course, the American veteran and first responders. My
sister was a twenty five year police officer of the
Cincinnati Police Department, and I'll tell you, I do get
the idea of stress from a job, and I learned
from her over the years what they face under pressure
and the crap that they go through each and every day.
And of course the American veteran, most notably combat veterans,

(01:08:53):
deal with post traumatic stress and the day to day
hardships are just being in the military obviously a very
stressful reality. You obviously recognize that we're going to talk
about your Trust and Valor program, but first let my
listeners know about Mustang Journey, the organization, how you got started,
what you do. It's online at Mustang Journey dot org.
It's fascinating.

Speaker 11 (01:09:15):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, and thank you to your
family members for their service. Mustang Journey is a is
a five O one C three nonprofit organization. We operate
solely on donations and volunteers. And what we do is
we adopt, tame, gentle and rehome wild mustangs. And you know,

(01:09:39):
in this as you even mentioned what a great way
to help and support two iconic American symbols of freedom,
the wild mustang and the American soldier.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
So I understand you work with the Bureau of Land Management.
Now these are as you mentioned, wild mustangs, and so
they're they're they're they're rounded up and collected. Is there
are they? Do they represent a problem out in the wild?
Is that the reason that they're collected and rounded up
by the Bureau of Land Management.

Speaker 11 (01:10:09):
Yeah, what has happened is the free ranging ranchers has
gone to the government and asked them to remove the mustangs.
They actually the ranchers actually round them up with helicopters.
They claim that the wild mustangs are taking all the
resources in the foliage and water.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Yes, huh, well, I suppose you've probably questioned that reality
or that that assertion. But nonetheless, because of those claims,
they are rounded up, and I imagine that's got to
be quite stressful for the wild mustangs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Just in and of itself.

Speaker 11 (01:10:41):
Yes, it is very stressful, and that's you know, we've noticed,
you know, a parallel you know, examining the parallels between
the life of a wild mustang from the round ups
separated from their families and then also to the to
the first responders and also.

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
A ve and you know there's uh, there's that.

Speaker 11 (01:11:04):
The time to decompress that they need, the stress from
around up, the stress from as you mentioned, even the combat,
the traumatic experiences possibly even loss, uh you know in combat. Yeah,
so the highlights, you know, shared a characteristic extent or
you know, I guess you could say themes of camaraderie,

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you know, forging that trust between the veterans, the first
responders and that wild mustang trust is going to be
one of the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Biggest ones understood.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
So you mentioned gentling the mustang and and and getting
into uh an animal that's that's rideable, So you're you're
you're looking to it. I guess the old word for
it is breaking a horse. I mean, I think about
the old Western days and I'm an break a horse.
You got a wild horse, and you learn how to
calm it down, put a saddle on it, and make
it into something that's actually rideable.

Speaker 11 (01:11:59):
Right exactly. And that's where we use the term gentle.
There is no heartbreaking of these horses. They've already been
through enough stress trauma, so we use these we use
the type of training where you gentle them and it's
it's there's no there's no heartbreaking of the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Horses, understood, and I appreciate your having a concern for
the horse and inappropriate treatment. That's what it's all about.
And so and that's where the veterans and first responders
come in. You train them how to gentle the horses,
and then you ultimately place them. It's it's like a
forever home for the for the Mustang after you go
through this process.

Speaker 10 (01:12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
So we actually we have different programs for the veterans
and first responders. Have to say, one of those individuals
they just want to learn to how to take care
of a horse. That's we have something what we call
a care team. That's where you just we teach them
how to feed, water and muck and just spend some
time with the horse. And that's really when some of
the trust is built, just just take taking care of them.

(01:13:01):
We also have a handling program where you can learn
to halt or lead load a horse if you want
to just kind of take it knowledge and experience a
little step further. You mentioned the trust and valor that's
learned how to tame tame a wild mustang from what
we call untouchable to someone where you can halt or

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lead and load in a trailer. And then we are
moving on to hopefully in a very near future, a
riding program in these individuals, veterans and first responders help
us get them to their forever homes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
So the concept is this is this is very therapeutic
for perhaps maybe a veteran who's struggling with post traumatic stress.
You're giving them something that's really beneficial. It's distracting for
them in the sense their mind isn't on other more
traumatic things. They're helping this horse get, you know, you know, become.

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I guess is I hate to use the word usable,
but you know it's it's a wild animal, but you're
turning it into something that someone might want to adopt.
And I guess all of this is really beneficial to
the psychology of the veteran or first responder in that regard.

Speaker 11 (01:14:15):
Yes, sir, you know there's a lot of there's a
lot of life skills that you can learn just by
just by spending time and and and here's the thing,
it's it's not us, it's it's a it's the horses.
I I kind of, you know, just kind of missed
myself as a as one beggar showing another beggar where
to get the information from. And you know, those life skills,

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you know, it's there's it's not a a canned answer.
You don't know what that individual is going to receive
from spending time with the Mustangs, but some of those,
you know, transitioning life skills could be you know, confidence,
confidence back into the civilian world, if you will. Patience

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is another one. Uh, Presence, being in the moment is
a big one that one has. That one has been
a big one for me spending time with the Mustangs.
And then you kind of mentioned it there too. Is
just a peace of mind, right, even if it's for
just a little while. It's just a peace of mind
so you can forget about your daily challenges just for

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a little while.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah, I mean everybody has something along those lines. You know,
people who can't go to sleep at night they think
about all the crap they did during the day, all
the things they need to do tomorrow, and it's the
worst possible time to think about those things because you're
supposed to get a good night's sleep so you can
then cope and deal with it the next day. So
in this regard, when you're working with the Mustang, you
have a task at hand, you have to have presence,

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you have to pay attention to what's going on in
front of you. You have this beautiful, beautiful horse Mustang
in front of you that's obviously you know, enjoyable to
be with. It's a distraction from the day to day
cares of life. I can see the brilliance of this
just in thinking about along those lines.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Yes, sir, wow, Yeah, And.

Speaker 11 (01:16:03):
I think that's you know again, you know, you're not
sure what the individual is going to get out of it,
but that's you know, again, just being able to focus,
you know, focus and then use those to to move on.
You know, you hold on to that for a little
while to get you through your next days until until
you can come back and spend more time with them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
So this uh is does the program, this trust Environur program,
is it for a specific period of time? Is it?
Is it sort of like a show up when you
need a kind of thing. How does it work? How
does it operate?

Speaker 11 (01:16:36):
We can, Yeah, anyone could reach out to us and
we can fit it into their schedule. We do have
some type of a schedule right now. However, we do
have folks coming that you know can't make it, you know,
for instance, on a Sunday. Maybe they can't make it
on a Sunday, so we will open up other times
for them to come in and spend time with them,

(01:16:59):
all right, and and just go and then go through
the programs or you know, even at their even at
their level where they're at the FORRCES. We've had several
folks come through that have had, you know, grew up
with horses. They possibly even maybe trained horses before going
in into the military, and or they have little, little

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to no knowledge at all about horses and we just
start them with the horses where their knowledge is at.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Now, how long does it take from when you get
one of these wild mustangs from the h Bureau of
Land Management? How long does it, I guess normally take
I suppose different mustangs vary like personalities. There one can
take a longer time to train, others may adopt and

(01:17:48):
accept the training earlier, but generally speaking, start to finish
from when you get the Mustang initially till it's properly
gentled and manageable. What's the length of time?

Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
You know what?

Speaker 11 (01:17:59):
You made a great point. They're just like humans. We
all have our we all have our personal bubble to
begin with.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
That's when it starts.

Speaker 11 (01:18:07):
We can start building that trust and we like to
twelve months is what we like to shoot for. Can
some get uh you know, rehome prior to that, yes,
do some take a little bit longer, yes, but that's
we We figure that twelve month period is a good
time uh to get them, to get them decompressed, to

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get them through the training, and then uh typically put
them we have x amount of hours we want to
put them under saddle before before we do re home them.
That's our goal. However, there have been some folks that
have adopted the horses at the time and they wanted.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
To finish the horses off themselves. Oh, and that they can.

Speaker 11 (01:18:50):
They can do that as well, And that's an agreement
between the individual who's adopting and us the board it
Mustang Journey determine the best if that's going to be
the best scenario for the horse, all.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Right, case by case basis, this makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
I know some people who are truly horse people, and
I can see them perhaps wanting to pursue that path,
but they've owned horses for decades and they know everything
there is to know about them. Now, is there is
it difficult to rehome these horses? Is there a waiting
list or do you have to reach out and sort
of market them? How does that work for Troy?

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
You know, that's a great question.

Speaker 11 (01:19:29):
The Mustang network, if I can say, it's across the
United States and there's several thousands horses out there, several
thousands of people that are involved with Mustangs. But it's
a very intimate community. And there's a story about a
horse spirit that we had a very photogenic horse in

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the herd management area in Honaky and Utah. She's a
well documented horse by professional photographers. She's been on some
PBS shows and uh, once we put her up for adoption,
there was a mustang owner actually owns a Mustang. She
owns her herd mate in sunny San Diego.

Speaker 7 (01:20:15):
So it just goes to show you it's it's.

Speaker 11 (01:20:18):
Intimate, but yet it's it's a tight knit, uh network.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
I get it.

Speaker 11 (01:20:23):
And once you when you know, once you put it
out there, you know, folks, folks will find them, Folks
will find the Mustangs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Well, you know, my wife and I have just that
way of example. It seems to be somewhat of a
parallel were Doberman lovers and there are there's a network
of Doberman rescues, just like there are there's a network
of pitbull rescues or any other breed, but they are interconnected.
So if you know, there's somebody in Cincinnati that's looking
for to rescue a Doberman, and it doesn't have to
be any it doesn't there's not one necessarily in the area.

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You can reach out to the one in Kentucky, or
they reach out with the one in Indiana.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
That's that's how that works a lot. I understand how
that connection works. So there is a Mustang community out there.
So I'm glad to know that because I, yeah, my
wife would love to own a horse, and I just
you know, like honey, there's no way. So it's just
it seems to me it would be an uphill challenge
to place these Mustangs, but apparently it's not now moving

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aside from the uh the valor program, UH, the Trust
and Valor program. Do you take volunteers? But I know
you're located in Goshen, so my listeners know that, and
do you are you looking for volunteers? I know you
want donations, and so I will encourage my listeners if
you want to donate to this wonderful cause. It's Mustang
Journey dot org. There's a little donate button. But how

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about just folks who would like to spend some time
there mucking or leading or doing whatever. Does you need
them to do?

Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
Absolutely?

Speaker 11 (01:21:48):
Absolutely, We're always looking for volunteers, you know, to support
Mustang Journey. And typically the draw to Mustang Journey is
the care team that I mentioned, Folks that just want
to kind of mountain just you know, take care of them,
you know, feed water, mock, pick up a miller and
you know, and just spend time with them. But they

(01:22:08):
can certainly reach out to us, and there's obviously some
some paperwork that they would need to fill out, and yeah,
just and and get started. You have two or three orientations,
depending on the level of horse knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:22:24):
You know, when you feel comfortable being the in the
pen and taking care of them, then we'll just kind
of not turn you loose, but go through the orientation
and then you can start taking care of them. That
we have a we have a community. We have a
we have a community calendar h that you can you
can put your name on a certain time. It's called
time tree and uh you can put your name on

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the on the calendar when you want to. If you
once a week, once a month, twice a week, it's
up to you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
That's wonderful. I have a feeling you may get some
calls on this or some some outreach and I see
on your your website how much a bail of hay is,
how much the grain is, and you know, veterinary visit
and all that. There's donation levels. You can be a
sponsor of a horse for a full year at a
certain level, so there's a multitude of ways to help out.
Or you can just show up and and help them

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clean the stalls out and work with some beautiful mustangs
and they are absolutely beautiful beasts.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Troy Day, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
For the time you spend with my listeners today and
explaining Mustang journey to my listening audience. I think it's
a wonderful thing you're doing. And keep up the great work,
and uh hopefully we'll have you back on the show
down the road again sometime.

Speaker 11 (01:23:33):
Absolutely, I appreciate thank you for having me certainly appreciate it,
and like to invite you and your wife out, come
on out and meet the Mustang.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Well, get the horse part out of her system for
a little bit. She grew up on a farm and
had a horse when she was young, so that's where
that comes from. And thanks again for the work.

Speaker 11 (01:23:52):
The way you can, you know, have somebody else take
care of the horses and you can just come out
and spend time with them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
I like that idea, man, I like that idea. And
thanks again for helping the American and first responder Troy Day.
It's been a real pleasure. Mustang Journey dot Org is
where you find the organization and help him out in
some way. Troy, take care of yourself and keep up
the great work. It's seven twenty two at fifty five KR.
See the talk station bottom of there. We're gonna hear
from Daniel Davis with a deep dive, So to stick

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around for that. Seven thirty here fifty five CARCD Talk
Station a very happy Friday, and so please do a
special edition with retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis since we
missed out on an opportunity due to a technical glitch.
You know, sometimes without Joe, the show don't go, even
though Seaman Man is doing a wonderful job covering for Joe.
Better late than never. Welcome back Daniel Davis at the
fifty five KRCY Morning Show. It's as always a pleasure

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talking with you.

Speaker 13 (01:24:39):
Yeah, I'm just feeling really like almost withdraw symptoms from
heaven not talk to you on Tuesday, so I'm glad
we made it up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
It's always an enjoyable and engaging discussion and very informative.
And I didn't get a topic from you, but I
kind of assumed it would be a continuation of our
ongoing discussion over the situation between Russia and Ukraine. And
if you want to go in a different direction, that's fine.
But I had to ask you about this because my
friends over Breiitbart were reporting that the British Defense Minister

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was meeting yesterday they got around thirty countries to move
forward with plans on deploying troops to defend Ukraine or otherwise,
you know, after a peace deal is negotiated to secure
the perimeter or something. They said two hundred military planners
from thirty countries were working to develop plans for deepening
European involvement in Ukraine. But here is the and it's

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not funny because we're talking about war and we're talking
about people dying. But as briip Art right, real quick,
as breibart Rite's building a force big enough to act
as a credible deterrent is proving a considerable effort for
nations that strength their militaries after the Cold War, I mean,
no kidding, I mean without us, they can't even defend themselves.

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How are they going to take on this large responsibility
when they don't have any armies of any size any longer.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Yeah, that is truly bizarre.

Speaker 13 (01:25:58):
I'll say their meeting, by the way, that was the
Coalition of the Willing Military arm meeting there yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
You're talking today.

Speaker 13 (01:26:06):
The defense ministers are meeting in Germany to talk about
nuth aid, which apparently just a couple hours ago was
released like twenty twenty one billion dollars in additional aid
something like that. But I mean it's puzzling because the
Russians are saying, hey, we're working with Trump to try
to find a way to end this war, but we
keep telling you that no NATO countries will be allowed

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any kind of a peacekeeping force at all. It's a
complete and total non starter. So then the question has
to be if we're telling you that is not even
on the table for the Russian side, and you can't
have them in there unless there's an agreement on both sides,
then why are you going down a path that is
not going to be acceptable to anyone?

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
It is bizarre to me.

Speaker 13 (01:26:46):
And then, as you said, it's also alarming because they
can't even come up with enough people even to put
on paper that could go up in there. And I
don't know that they realize it, but that is signaling
significant weakness to the Russian side to get more bold
because they see that their paper military on the whole
Western side, and that's something that should trouble all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Well, yes, and I'm certain Russian intelligence is painfully well
obviously aware of the limitations of the European Union's military forces.
But you're I mean, you understand military warfare and deployment
of troops This isn't like if they had a sizable
military force and sufficient assets and missile systems and weapons

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systems and satellite capabilities, they had everything they need in
order to wage a potential war. They're not that far
away from Ukraine. I mean, they're right there on the perimeter.
It's not like deploying forces from you know, the Gulf
of Mexico I'm sorry, Gulf of America over to Saudi
Arabia and and and and even to launch missiles at

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the Huthis that takes a long time. But if you're
already in you know, Western Europe, it's not that far
of a drive to get to Ukraine, right, I mean
missing something?

Speaker 13 (01:28:01):
No, And in fact, we you know, when I grew
up in the Cold War in the in the army,
in the US Army there, and we used to have
what's called Reforger or return Forces Germany, where we would
do this big movement every year or two, would send
you know, huge numbers of forces and be tens or
hundreds of thousands of troops would take part from all
the different NATO countries moving around to show that we

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had the capacity to physically fight in the event that
the Soviet Union ever invaded.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Well, now then.

Speaker 13 (01:28:28):
You see that how far the whole, the whole NATO
itself has deteriorated, that it can't even muster a handful
of thousands. I mean, originally they were looking for as
far back as December two hundred thousand peacekeepers, and then
they said, well, maybe one hundred thousand. Now then they're
saying maybe thirty thousand. Yeah, and they're having a hard
time with that. What kind of signal does that send

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to your potential adversary on the Russian side, who, by
the way, have expanded to one point five million active
troops and growing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Well, that is I mean, I suppose one could characterize
it as an as an existential threat, but recognizing that
you're still talking about some nuclear armed countries in spite
of the fact they have very few people to you know,
wage a war, you're still looking at the potential of
the you know, the holocaust like nuclear holocaust scenario, which

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is the only thing I suppose that prevents Russia from
actually going in and invading Western Europe, which I don't
really believe. And maybe you've got some thoughts on this
that that's something Vladimir Putin wants to take on.

Speaker 13 (01:29:36):
No, he does not want to do that, but he
is building up a force that could do that if
he feels that he is threatened to the point to
where the NATO nations are actually thinking about going beyond
where they already have, which is supporting a war against Russia,
and if they don't reach a peace agreement.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
They're saying, hey, at some point.

Speaker 13 (01:29:54):
If we can't assure our security on our western flank
through negotiations to end this war, then we'll take whatever
actions we need to to go first. There are many
in the Kremlin that are pushing hard for that. I'll
just tell you straight up. I see it in the
Russian media. They have been very open. I'm talking Russian
state media has been very open about saying that's what
we should do. They're building a force that could potentially

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do that. Meanwhile, we're just talking on the other side.
And Brian, all of this puts in great relief that
when you look at what we talked about a lot,
the balance of power between the two sides is just
irrevocably on the Russian side for the Russia Ukraine War,
It's now evident it also extends into the NATO alliance
and instead of recognizing that and going, holy crap, let's

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get this war over with and see if we can
fill the holes here, they're ignoring the reality, still trying
to pretend it's back during the time I was serving
and when Reforger, when the balance of power was evil equal,
And instead they're continuing with this fiction that they're going
to try and beat Russia through Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
It doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Well, you know, looking forward, let's assume the worst case
scenario that Okay, the warmongers that surround Pewton have their
way and Russia goes ahead and tries to take over
Western Europe. I don't care if they have two million troops,
how many millions of people live in Western Europe. I mean,

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you can't. You can't hold the block, if you know
what I mean. If you've got enough people, you know,
willing to take pot shots and random Russian soldiers, you
got this potential long term, you know, unsustainable girl of warfare.
I mean, think about we were in Afghanistan for how
many years, one single country, and we ended up pulling out.
The great American might, the great American military couldn't hold

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one country. And I don't know the size of maybe
Texas or something. I don't know what the geographical realities are,
but when you really practically think about this, it's almost
it seems like an insurmountable challenge.

Speaker 13 (01:31:54):
Well see, and that's that's if Russia wanted to occupy
all of Europe, which they don't even even in. And
the version what they're talking right now, these warhawks in
the Moscow side is that they just want to defeat
the military capacity of NATO and then so that they
can ensure that they're safe because there won't be a threat,
and then they would return home. So this is more
like an exponential expeditionary event, not a conquest event.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
But I mean, I think that boiled down though, that's
bluster on the part of the warmongers over in Russia,
because as you and I have just talked about, the
NATO alliance isn't really a threat.

Speaker 13 (01:32:31):
Well there's that, and maybe that's why Russia or Putin
himself has pushed back against the hawks, because he said
they don't really represent a threat, but they do want this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
War over, yeah, and they're willing to do whatever it takes.

Speaker 13 (01:32:42):
And I think that that's where they could and according
to General Sersky this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
I just saw it just before we came on an air.

Speaker 13 (01:32:48):
He said that the Russian offensive that they've been warning
about began apparently yesterday the day before. It's apparently a
slow greet, but it's an increase in the Zaparisia and
in the Sumi area in the north.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
And we'll see where that goes.

Speaker 13 (01:33:01):
But Russia may be deciding to just solve this on
the battlefield if they can't get a diplomacy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Well, and the more they take over, the better their
position becomes in a negotiation, and maybe that may be
the point of moving in. You know, if you guys
aren't sitting down at the table and working on terms
that are at least palatable to the Russians, because guess what,
we're winning and we continue to win, and you're running
out of soldiers and munitions. I'm sorry, you don't have

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any negotiation here. So let's get it over with. You
give us the Russian occupied primarily Russian people regions, that's
what you know we want. We'll let you have the
rest of Ukraine because they don't want to send there,
you don't want to send there. Let's get this thing
over with because that's the obvious conclusion if you're going
to negotiate piece, that's what's gonna happen, right.

Speaker 13 (01:33:46):
Brian, Listen, I think I'm gonna see if I can't
get a hold of President Trump this morning and puts
you in charge of the negotiating game, because you got it,
you have it figured out, and we just need to
make sure that you bring Europe alongside your obvious logic
and ration thought there, because that's the only way this
is going to get to an end, because no war
is going to end until one side at least recognizes

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finally that they can no longer continue to put forth
effective resistance and to the point of where they go,
all right, we either keep fighting and dying or we
make a deal. And apparently the West, certainly it's not,
and I guess Ukraine hasn't gotten to that point either.
So we have a new Russian offensive and we'll see
where that goes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Well, yeah, maybe they can play this conversation to the
collective that's going to be meeting today. All I'm saying is,
you know, listen, we lost Vietnam. We pulled out and
we lost, but you know what, now they're a trading
partner with us so over the long term and ended
up working out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
We licked our wounds. We looked bad, and you know
you move on right. It's time to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
It's time to quit killing. End the story. Daniel Davis
Deep Die find them online, listen to this podcast. I
always love the conversation, Danie'll look forward to and actually
not next season. I'm off all week. Next week I'm
taking a mental health week. Got to have one ever
once in a while, So I'm taking the week off.
But fast forward a week from Tuesday, we'll hit the
ground running again.

Speaker 13 (01:35:07):
Well, look forward to it, and I'll let you know
what President Trump says about you being the negotiating team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
I appreciate it. Take care of yourself. My brother will
talk soon.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Seven.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
If it's five KR Seed the talk station, it's seven
fifty fifty five car Seed Talk Station. After having a
happy Friday, Hey, Sean went opened the phone lines up
just in case somebody wants to call. I want to
thank again as I had such a wonderful time hearing
vivik Ramaswami last night at the Warren Kind of Republican Club,

(01:35:38):
and I had the I was blessed with the opportunity
to introduce him. But just the guy is great. If
you haven't heard him speak, if you haven't met him
in person, and when you have an opportunity, please do so.
He will be the next governor of the state of
Ohio absent something insane going on. I can't imagine Ohio
flipping blue between now and then. And I can't imagine
anybody voting for Amy Lockdown acting think about that. I

(01:36:03):
always think of that the Blues Brothers. You know, you
don't have to go home, but you can't stay here
when the bar closed. You can stay here, but you
can't order a drink after ten pm. But what the
hell that's going to stop COVID from spreading. What a
bunch of nonsensical garbage that you and I lived through.
And as it turns out, apparently the China has now

(01:36:26):
admitted or rather there's this new report out. I'm going
to get my stories about China mixed up, a new
report out that the Biden administration sat on talking about this.
The spread of COVID nineteen started a couple of months
before it was actually let out to the public that

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there was such a thing as COVID nineteen. Going on
twenty twenty two Defense Department report, described as long withheld
by the Biden administration, has now surfaced, revealing that seven
United the State's service members showed COVID nineteen like symptoms
after having competed in the World Military Games in yes Wuhan, China.

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This is months before the virus broke out in the
United States. Discloser now suggesting the virus was circulating around
the city of Wuhan months before China let the world
know in December of twenty nineteen that it was circulating.
The games took place in October twenty nineteen. According to
Fox News reporting, this report was legally required to be

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released publicly online more than two years ago in a
searchable format that's in quote, so it's based upon the obligation,
but it only became available sometime in late March of
this year, when the Trump administration finally uploaded it to
the Defensive Apartment's website. Given credit to the Washington Free
Beacon outloard report of the Bide administration did send copies

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of the report to the House and Senate Armed Services
Committee back in December of twenty two, but the report
was never made available online by the administration. Says that
there was no significant outbreak of COVID nineteen like symptoms
at Defense Department facilities after the athlete's return, although service
members were not tested for COVID nineteen or antibodies as
testing was not available at that early stage of the pandemic.

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So it's certainly possible that this was spreading around and
people were struggling with COVID nineteen like symptoms, but they
didn't put their finger on it being COVID nineteen because
the world wasn't aware of it yet. Apparently, other international
athletes reported having come down with COVID nineteen like symptoms,
according to Daily Mail reporting back in June of twenty
twenty one, and they say the Games have long been

(01:38:38):
suspected as a super spreader event because it took place
close to the Wuhan Institute for Avirology. Don't drink after
ten o'clock, Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for
calling today.

Speaker 10 (01:38:52):
Why good morning, Brian. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
I'm doing great, man, It's Friday. I'm always doing creatd
on a Friday, especially when the precedes me taking a
week off.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Ka.

Speaker 14 (01:39:02):
I figured i'd better get in now before you take
your week off. I'm I'm getting very close to wrapping
my job up, but you see, and and hopefully getting
back on more of a normal schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Well normal meaning we're going to start hearing back from
you at five point thirty in the morning on weekdays.

Speaker 10 (01:39:17):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:39:18):
I mean if I if I wasn't having to start
work at five o'clock, you would have had to endure
all my rants for the last year.

Speaker 10 (01:39:26):
So it's it's been a tough year.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Well, I've missed hearing from you, but we do have
your don't vote Democrat on SoundBite format and do run
it occasionally. I don't know if you've ever heard heard
us play it, but it certainly comes in handy from
time to time, and it makes me thinking of Tom.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
I'm glad to hear from you. Everything good in your world?

Speaker 10 (01:39:44):
Oh yeah, it doing all right.

Speaker 14 (01:39:46):
Recently, have to give props to my lovely bride. I've
gotten into golf the last couple of years, a little
late in life, but hey whatever, started playing some golf.
And I've yet to play in Ohio, but just a
couple of weeks ago i played Tory Pines. Oh yeah,
in La Joiah. She heard me talking about it, and

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my birthday was coming up, and she booked me a
tea time for Tory Pines. I got to play both courses,
and uh I got to give her all the credits.
She set the whole thing up and we had a
We had a wonderful week out in the San Diego area.
Beautiful place to visit.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
That's a lot. That is a long course.

Speaker 10 (01:40:26):
Yeah, that's the courses are long, but it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
I played that course. Actually, I'm not much of a golfer.
My dad did insist that I learned how to play golf,
and so the partner at the firm that I was
working for, we were out there on business and we
ended up playing Tory Pines and we walked it and
I remember I was just exhausted by the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
End of that bro.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
I was like, oh my god, why does anybody play
this game?

Speaker 10 (01:40:48):
And did you play the North or South course?

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
I don't remember. I just remember it was long.

Speaker 14 (01:40:54):
Yeah, they're both they're both pretty long. So yeah, that
was good time. I recommend visiting, but damn man, it's
expensive out there. It is pricey. I think the keep
US I pay for gas was four sixty nine or
something like that.

Speaker 10 (01:41:06):
Everything there, Yeah, everything's expensive.

Speaker 14 (01:41:09):
But you know your last story you just did with
the uh, with the whole COVID thing. If people haven't
figured it out by now, how much we're being lied
to by the Democrats especially Uh, I don't I don't
know what else is going to take to get people
to understand that you cannot, we cannot ever let the
Democrats gain any power or control in your in your town,

(01:41:34):
your counting, your state, and especially not the federal government.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:41:38):
Whatever we got to do to make sure they don't
have any power over anything. Don't let them have the
Senate or the House back, don't let them get the presidency.

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
All that.

Speaker 14 (01:41:47):
We we've got to make sure that doesn't happen because
we are, we are reeling from the damage of the
last you know, you say four years, Really it's been.

Speaker 10 (01:41:56):
Going on for a lot longer than that.

Speaker 14 (01:41:58):
It so finally, you know, it's gonna take a bull
in a china shop like Trump and and Elon Musk
to come in here break things down. Unfortunately, that's what's
kind of happen. So people don't panic, it's relax. It's
gonna get fixed.

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
And the only way.

Speaker 14 (01:42:12):
It's gonna continue is if you keep voting for Republicans
to keep them in there so they can fix things
with all their problems they have. Whatever you do, don't
vote Democrat. Have a great day, Bryan Coo.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Waiting for that brother. You too good to hear from
you after a while. Seven fifty seven The Coming up Douglas,
Captain Douglas Ernest The Spirit of a True Patriot. That's
the book we'll be talking about right at the top
of our news eight o six I fifty five p
r C be Talk Station. By time's switching, You're on
a very very happy Friday. I having a little extra

(01:42:46):
good mood. Not that I don't love being here and
talking to my listeners and enjoying engaging in conversations during
the fifty five KC Morning Show, but every once in
a while I do need a little time off. So
I'm taking what I'm calling a mental health vacation next week,
Gonna sleep in, and I'm gonna do my best to
try to ignore the problems of the world. So it's
just been I guess maybe a little too long since

(01:43:06):
I took a break. So that's how I'm feeling. And
I'm sure that Dan Carroll will cover the situation quite well.
Between Monday and Thursday, and then Kevin Gordon's going to
handle matters on Friday, so you can enjoy them and take.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
A break from me. Maybe you'll be happier about that.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Maybe there's something you want to talk about. I was
supposed to have an author on at this segment, but
sadly not answering the phone. I know that always frustrates
the hell out of Joe's Treker. Sean McMahon, who's covering
for Joe'streker this week, he taking it and stride not
taking it personally. But then again, he didn't set the
guest up Joe is. That's why he always takes it personally.
So anyway, well can take phone calls. Maybe this a

(01:43:46):
particular topic you want to talk about. I did bring
it up earlier. I was just really laughing at the
situation with the Bengals in Hamilton County now going to
Columbus and asking for three hundred and fifty million dollars
for pay Corse Dum upgrades which are going to total
eight hundred and thirty million dollars. And I mean, it's
mind numbing, isn't it. But and I've been given props

(01:44:11):
to the WCPO, who actually interviewed the Mike Dwine among others,
but Dan Monk and Paula Christian did the reporting on it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
So props to them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
That the Senate Finance Chair Jerry Serena said that nobody
from the Bengals are Hamilton kind of reached out to him.
I mean the budget just got pasted the other day.
That's the one that had six hundred million dollars in
bonds for Yes, the Cleveland Browns and they're huge, mega complex.
Governor Wine also said he was expressed surprise at requests.
He said he met with Alisha Reice last year about

(01:44:42):
the state he but never heard anything further or any
specifics regarding a proposal. So big mystery up in Columbus.
And apparently no lobbyist on behalf of the Bengals either.
Just pretty funny anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
So do we have him now?

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Oh great, Welcome to the I have Cassey Morning Show
author Doug Ernest and the name of the book we're
talking about this morning, The Spirit of a True Patriot,
The inspiring story of retired Captain Doug Ernest, who also
now is a successful businessman. Doug, It's a pleasure to
have you on the program. Let me start by thanking
you for your service to our country.

Speaker 15 (01:45:16):
Thank you for that wonderful pleasure and that introduction. I
cannot say thank you enough.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Well, we'll get to the business because I think it's
an integral part of what you learned from. Obviously a
horrific situation in the military. You served in Operation Desert Storm,
and as you described in the book, jumping out of
your M one thirteen personnel carrier, it sounded a lot
like what the experience on the beaches in Normandy. We
get all this mortar rounds and gunshots and explosions all

(01:45:46):
around you. I mean, how old were you at the time.

Speaker 15 (01:45:49):
I had just turned eighteen. I had joined the Army
at the age of seventeen, spent six months in training, infantry,
airboard school, and some other classes, and then I went
off to Saudi Arabia about two weeks after I finished
my training. Eighteen years old when that experience happened.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Eighteen years old, and you know, I've sort of come
to the realization over the years they have a cutoff
with enlisting in the military because guys like my age.
I'll be sixty in September Doug and Douglas, and you
couldn't I have a problem with authority anyway, But jumping
out of an M one th thirteen personnel carry amid
bombs and blasts and gunfire, that scares the living crap

(01:46:25):
out of me right now. But as an eighteen year old,
what was your emotional reaction to that and the other
warfare and the challenges you faced during the Operation Desert Storm.

Speaker 15 (01:46:36):
My emotional reaction.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
Was really simple.

Speaker 15 (01:46:38):
I had a great one reakingship with the Lord when
I was younger, because I was grew up in that
type of environment with my family, attending a Lutheran school
and always having a presence with the Lord. And I
was just communicating with him consistently throughout the day, and
so were my brothers that I was with. We were
having prayer groups together, we were having spiritual caather, We
were every time we could get together. We have each

(01:47:00):
other's hand, and to say, please, Lord, guide us, give
us direction, Please ask us the Lord to end this
conflict quickly, because not only did we not want to
get hurt, but we you know, as human beings and
loving men, we don't want.

Speaker 10 (01:47:11):
To hurt other people.

Speaker 15 (01:47:13):
And it was hard as a kid. I think the
hardest part too, was knowing that I might be inflicting
collateral damage on people that we were firing these weapons at.
And that was hard for me because I grew up
as a kid peaceful. Yeah, I did not want to
hurt people. I did not want to. I could not
take the pain that I knew if I had hurt someone,
I wasn't ready for that yet. That I had learned

(01:47:33):
how to train, I had done this in simulation, but
I wasn't ready to actually kill another person.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Is that the general mindset of the majority of your comrades,
because you know, we had this ridiculous notion. And I
feel so badly for the men and women and mostly
men who served in combat of Vietnam and they got
treated so miserably. They were called baby killers, and they
got a reputation with all the Hollywood movies depicting Vietnam
that they were just running around gleefully killing women and children.

(01:48:02):
I think of, you know, like, uh, the machine gunner
and the helicopter at.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
All?

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
What was that movie?

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Doesn't matter, but that they relished in the fact that
pulling the trigger had no concern or care for collateral damage.
What's reality as you saw it in Operation Desert Storm.

Speaker 15 (01:48:21):
Yeah, and it's the opposite is truber what you see
in these Hollywood movies when you have these cycle paths
that are trying to, you know, inflict damage upon their
human beings. Ninety nine point nine nine percent of those
that serve in the military in our country are always
number one concerned is not hurting somebody else. And if
you do have to inflect damage and use these ammunition
and these rounds to get your point across to get

(01:48:44):
your territory, you do a shock and all you get
the damage over with, you attempt to get the other
side to concede so that you can stop. And you know,
and we and that's the way we've concted been this
in the military. In the last two hundred and sixty
years of our country. Has there been some outliers where
there was some things that maybe should happen, of course,
but that's that one percent of one percent of one
percent that happened ninety nine point nine percent of people

(01:49:05):
in the military. And the way that I was trained
and brought up in the military is you just have
a complete one percent on adulterated shock and all program
where you get to your point across and you get
it done swiftly and quickly so that the enemy will concede.
You can move on and we'll stop the damage on
both sides so that the war will come to and end.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Yeah, we're talking earlier this morning with a retired lieutenant
colonel about the situation with Russia and Ukraine. And we
just pray that they'll put end that ridiculous dispute soon
because the loss of life is just overwhelming. And you know,
your your your faith in God, is I somehow have
a sense and having never been in combat or served
in the American military of a since if you have

(01:49:44):
a profound belief that your connection with God and that
you will be embraced and have this this wonderful after life,
having you know, served God and committed to your faith,
does that take the pressure off of the idea of dying?

Speaker 15 (01:50:02):
It does?

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
It gives you you know?

Speaker 15 (01:50:03):
And you use that a few moments ago. You use
that example from the movie called The Populips.

Speaker 16 (01:50:08):
Now people, you know, as a kid, I watched that
movie and then later I was put myself on a
battlefield and I asked myself, what in the world have
I done so.

Speaker 15 (01:50:19):
Yes, the people that I served with, the majority of
us were Christians. We had a few people that were
in my platoon that were Buddhists and so forth. But
everybody had some type of outer spiritual connection to a
Lord or something they believe was a Lord, or something
that they believe was their savior. They're guiding universal force.
And without me having that universe of force, I don't
think I could have mentally or cognitively gotten true. So

(01:50:43):
for me having that spiritual connection to my Lord at
that point in my time, not only did it resonate
with me and my fellow brother that I was on
the battlefield, that gave me that chance to be able
to stay connected with the Lord and that relationship with
my Savior. It stayed with me my whole life.

Speaker 7 (01:50:59):
It's with me.

Speaker 15 (01:51:00):
You know, I just said a prayer, you know, only
fifteen minutes ago, to make sure I speak well and
I do a good job to you know, to serve
my country and to serve my fellow sisters and brothers
that are serving right now, so that I can do
an excellent job. And I did this relationship where I
feel like the Lord comes through me, he guides in
my life at a where I'm going to go every day,
and it just seems like it's just a part of

(01:51:21):
my life. And I think you know, in our communities
in our country, most of our country, about seventy percent
of it this Christian base.

Speaker 7 (01:51:28):
So we do have this.

Speaker 15 (01:51:32):
Well that do embrace it, do use it. They can
actually have a better life, help themselves and to just
have a better life that's connected to our Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
So did your service in the American military, along of
course with your profound faith which is coming through clearly,
did that serve you in your business world? Because I
understand that you have a very successful might be jealous
about this corvette car dealership in Dallas, Texas. See you
sell exclusively corvettes.

Speaker 15 (01:52:00):
Yes, and absolutely the name of my business is Corvette Warehouse.
If you can just Google search a Corvette Warehouse, you
can't miss it. We're the largest corvette dealer in the Southwest.
And the skill sets in the military absolutely on, definitely,
without a doubt, added to the business sense of mine,
my business acumen. They teach you skill sets in the

(01:52:21):
military like how to get things done, how to make
things happen, how to work with a team, just playing
all down to to the nitty gritty skill sets that
you need in life to be successful, things that you
need to need and life to be happy, to be fulfilled,
to be able to work hard, and then no one
to take the break and sit on the sideline. So
I learned these skill sets and I had the best

(01:52:42):
mentors and the best leaders anyone could ever ask for
in the military. When I was in the infantry, I
had the best leaders. When I was in a staff job,
working at a brigade, when I was doing boring workle
supply and signing for millions dollars of equipment and never
being on the field, you know, being in a hotel
room if you will. I never had a bad leader.

(01:53:03):
I've been so fortunate. I've met so many people. I've
everybody in the military, the most nine to nine point
nine percent of them want to get ahead. They want
to educate themselves, they want to learn, they want to
be good parents, they want to be good people that
want to take care of themselves physically. So learning these
skill sets one percent gave me access to the knowledge.
It gave me access where to go get the knowledge

(01:53:23):
I need. And when I got out of the military,
I set my goal. You know that I was a
hobby that I loved playing with Corvette, that I wanted
to do something I love and I was passionate about.
And I definitely understood that these skill sets let me
into the direction I'm using my falling in life so
that I could be good at it, but also having
something fun I can enjoy.

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
Every day of my life.

Speaker 15 (01:53:44):
And one of other things I'd like to that book
on the Spirit of a True Patriot, I write about
the skill sets you learned in the military. You know,
the quick heuristics, the shortcuts, theology, being on the move,
always doing something, to have your body in motion every day.
If you have your body in motion, your inersial forces

(01:54:05):
will propel you forward. You can't be three hundred pounds
overweight and expect to be a great business leader. You
can't be four hundred pounds overweight and expect to be
a great parent, because you're going to pass those skill
sets off to your children. So I learned that if
I can one and ten percent use the skill sets
that I learned in the military and passes off to people,
that actually reinforces my skill sets and it gives me

(01:54:26):
a sense of satisfaction to fulfillment that I've done the
best I can do by passing off these heuristics that
I learned to other people in this world.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
So the name of the book is the spirit of
a true pay to the inspiring story of my guest today,
Retired Captain Douglas j Ernest. Who are you hoping reads
this book? I mean, I obviously had a target audience
in mind, and I presume it's maybe the entrepreneurial folks
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
But who else might benefit from a book? Douglas?

Speaker 15 (01:54:52):
You know that's a great question, and I was when
I wrote this book. My intent was to direct it
towards people that were thinking about military service or those
the parents that were thinking about military story, because that's
where my aim was. But as I wrote the book,
I was told later by friends and colleagues, man, that's
a good book. That's a management book, that's an executive

(01:55:13):
leadership book. And I didn't recognize that part of it
until after I wrote it, because I had been living
this life of leadership and going to leadership school, and
it's just ambred character. It's a part of my life.
Later when I read it, I've been told, and I
reread the book.

Speaker 12 (01:55:28):
Over and over that it is.

Speaker 15 (01:55:29):
It is a management book. It is something how you
can not only manage a business, manage your life, manage
your career, but also have a better life with your physical,
with your spiritual, with your children, being a great parent,
being involved in your community. It just has just basic
shortcuts they teach you in the When I joined the military,
I was twenty five pounds overweight. After I joined the military,

(01:55:51):
that weight was gone and I've never put that on.
I'm in the best physical shape you can possibly imagine.
For the last thirty years of my life. I feel
like I'm twenty years old.

Speaker 5 (01:56:01):
And it's because of this that.

Speaker 15 (01:56:02):
They taught me in the military. Well, Book of a
True Patriot has those shortcuts in there that you can
use to make improvements in your life. And I believe
it will help anyone that will take the plunge and
go spend the fifteen bucks to take the opportunity and
buy the book.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Well, and I'm sure it sounds extremely uplifting and inspirational,
and that's a lot. Well, that's a lot of what
we need right now. Douglas Ernest, thanks again for your
service to our country and for the inspiring book. I'll
encourage my listeners to get a copy of it, which
will make them easy to do at fifty five KRC
dot com. Will add it to our blog page with
a link to buy a copy. Thanks again, man, it's
been inspiring talking with you. Man, it really has well.

Speaker 12 (01:56:38):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 15 (01:56:39):
I greatly appreciate you, and I appreciate you getting the
message out to those people out there that need want
it some more than's good stuff. So help our nation
it prosperous and continue this nation for another two hundred
and sixty years.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Amen to that, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
You have a fantastic week, you too, coming to an
eight twenty one I fifty five k site talk station.
How about twenty two to three out on rap caught
about eighty thirty one to fifty five carsite talk station.
A very happy Friday to you, really inspirational Friday on
the heels of the spirit of a true Patriot, which,
of course, author Douglas Ernest was very, very.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
Very profound man of faith.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
I'm happy to welcome to the fifty five carssee Morning
show author of All for his Glory The Near Death
Experience of a Modern day job, Pastor David Scarlett. Pastor
David is a pleasure to have you on the fifty
five carsee morning show today.

Speaker 12 (01:57:29):
Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Well, and my father had a dear friend of his
who was a I think he was a heart surgeon.
He was a physician of some sort who ended up
on the operating table and died and they brought him back.
But when he died, he had one of those you know,
post death experiences, and he was in the operating room
looking down on the operating table where he was lying.

(01:57:53):
And my recollection is he met his mom who had
passed prior to his passing, and had this unbelievable post
death experience, only to be revived by the wonderful physicians
who were taking great care of him at the time,
and from that point forward he didn't have a care
or worry in the world. My understanding is something comparable
that happened to you. You were a former US marine

(01:58:15):
and you're telecommunications executive and also founder of His Glory Ministry.
Tell my listeners about your story in brief, which of
course they're going to read about in your book.

Speaker 12 (01:58:26):
Yeah, it's exactly very similar to what you just described.
I was the least likely still in the least likely
person on the face ear to be a pastor and
run a ministry that reaches twenty five million people in
every country of the world. But God had a different plan.
I rose the corporate ladder after being a marine, a
three director of three portram in our companies, lots of ego,
lots of money, and the Lord had a different plan.

(01:58:48):
So on seven seven seven, I got a bad chili
dog which had botulism toxin and I ended up dying
three times. The first time that they put me into
the Cleveland clinic was Friday the thirteenth. I died that night,
but I didn't have an near death experience. They revived me,
could put me on a breathing tube, and then they
tried to pull the plug again. And that's when I
went to have it. I immediately saw the panic on

(01:59:11):
the doctor's look on their faces. And when you're in
the Cleveland clinic, I see you, and you see the
Cleveland Clinic doctor's panic, you know it's probably not good.
And the pain took There was no pain, there was
no anxiety. Life took me up to the saw the
beauty of heaven. This just unbelievable, joy, peace, love, pake

(01:59:31):
sures everything is more vivid than we ever see here
on the earth. Everything was more of The music was
music that I've never heard ever. He showed me these
beautiful mahogany pictures of my life from the time I
was born to the time to the age. So I
had to be dead, for I wasn't having probably ten

(01:59:51):
fifteen minutes, maybe more, but I think I was only
clinically dead for two or three minutes. And he showed
me a couple of key things in those pictures. First,
those pictures would never take in in my entire life.
Those are pictures that he took. He showed that in heaven,
those pictures were perfect, because Heaven is perfect. But he
later told me that my report card was empty. There's
nothing I did good for him in those pictures. So

(02:00:14):
he brought me back and I was just couldn't believe
I'd just experienced heaven. They stabilized me, and just as
I coming back, I said, I didn't see Jesus when
I was in heaven. I said, Lord, I want to
see Jesus. I prayed that because I couldn't talk. And
before I even got that prayer, right at the end
of my bed, was the Messiah Jesus, and he was
just glowing, beautiful, beautiful blue eyes and just absolutely love, peace, joy, hope,

(02:00:39):
and just overtook the room. So I knew exactly what
you said that I had no fear from that point on.
And then it went really bad. I had five surgeries,
woke up in the stomach surgery right well, they're operating
on me. Collapse, along, pneumonia, you name it. It happened
just barely hanging on. They finally got me stable to

(02:01:00):
pull the plug again.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
And as soon as they did, they.

Speaker 12 (02:01:03):
Had all the top doctors and there's probably thirty of
the top doctors at the Cleveland kind of watching this
time to make sure nothing would go rock. And sure enough,
as soon as that happened, it started cold blue, cold
blue deeping, and I went up. I hovered above them
exactly the way you described in the hospital room, and
I saw them and they were panicking, and I said, Lord,

(02:01:25):
I feel fine, I feel your love, your joy. I
don't why are they panicking? And he said, my son,
I'm going to bring you back. You're going to start
a ministry called by my name, his Lord. You're going
to come out of the world and it'd be used
for me. And again, being a director at AT and T,
and I was the least likely person to come back
to drop everything and do that for him. And he
brought me back. And later there was a nurse that

(02:01:47):
was kind of mocking this, saying, you know, I'm not
sure if you really experienced this. And then I overheard
two doctors that were in the room, and he says,
whatever happened in that room, we've never seen a light
radiate from the top of his bed of his bed before.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
So when I hear you hear the words the peace
of God, which passes all human understanding, you actually did
experience a piece of God and do have an understanding
about what it is.

Speaker 12 (02:02:17):
Oh yeah, it's absolutely amazing when you get that was
called in the Hebrew the shalal, that piece that can
only come from Him. You don't fear anything. You don't
fear death. People ask me to do you fear death?
Not at all. When it's time to go home, I'm
going home and I'm not worried about it. One bet.
The only thing different this time than the first time
is my report card's going to be full because I'm

(02:02:37):
going to do what he told me. To do, be
a servant for him and to reach souls.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Well, David, were you a man of faith before this happened?

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
I mean, obviously you experienced an enlightenment like few people
would ever understand going through this experience. But how deep
was your faith in your connection with with with your
with your Christianity and your religion prior to this happening
to you?

Speaker 5 (02:03:00):
You?

Speaker 12 (02:03:01):
Well, I was raised. My mother was a prayer warrior.
She prayed for me many many years, twenty five years
until I would get to the point in my life
that I would pick up a Bible. So I thought
it was about me. If I was going to get there,
it is going to be my own doing. So I
was a nine one one Christian. I would only pray
when I was in trouble. As soon as the Lord
got me out of trouble, I went.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Back to my worldly ways like a C and E
Christian right Christmas in Eastern.

Speaker 10 (02:03:27):
Exactly, and probably.

Speaker 8 (02:03:28):
Not even that.

Speaker 12 (02:03:29):
It's just you know, something that was good that I
needed help with, And once he helped me, I was
out the door. But I had a severe mentor a
marital problem, and that's in the book, and that shook
me to my core just before this near death experience,
like if I wouldn't have had that, that's what triggered
me to say, wait a minute, maybe it's not about me,
Maybe I need this search. And I got into the Bible,

(02:03:51):
studied King David, and then.

Speaker 10 (02:03:53):
That started my walk.

Speaker 12 (02:03:54):
So I truly believe that if that wouldn't have happened,
I wouldn't have made it to heaven. I thought I
was saved, but.

Speaker 5 (02:04:00):
I was not saved.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
So since you talk about it in the book, I
guess I can ask you, perhaps was your marital issues
work related?

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Perhaps?

Speaker 12 (02:04:09):
Yes, I was a workaholic and my wife I took
over as a director for Ohio and had to move
my wife and young step daughter, and I was just
a workaholic and that created an affair on her part
that went really bad. And most people would have just left.

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
But I had a choice, do I leave or do I.

Speaker 12 (02:04:27):
Stay and humble myself? And how am I going to
get out of this? Because I was always able to
get out of things myself through the rising of the
corporate world, and I couldn't, so I had to get
on my knees and seek the Lord. And that's what
started the process and again, if that wouldn't happen, I
don't think I would have made it to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
Wow, and amazing what you've done with the ministry. And
if my listeners are interested in checking it out, it's
his glory dot M the growth of that. It's just
I don't know clearly you have been blessed. I would
imagine you were blessed in business, but your life wasn't fulfilled.

(02:05:08):
This happened to you, Lord Almighty. You almost ate a
hot dog to die, and then you built this amazing,
huge church. I'm just reminded of if there was a
line from the movie Pappion a Steve McQueen and he
was standing as a dream sequence and he's stand in
front of a judge who says you are guilty of
a wasted life.

Speaker 4 (02:05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Is that the kind of thing when you're when you
when you said that you were told your report card
was empty? Is it some sort of Was that that
the kind of realization or or is that a way
of summarizing how you felt reflecting on your life.

Speaker 12 (02:05:42):
That's exactly right. You know, you could be the CEO
of AT and T. You could create the iPhone. At
the end of the day, that doesn't impress God, and
it doesn't matter. It's only what we do for him
once we accept them in our heart and become servants.
And that's hard for people to get up the ladder
and to become a servant and give that all up.

(02:06:02):
But that's that's why Satan was thrown out of heaven.

Speaker 10 (02:06:05):
Is his pride.

Speaker 4 (02:06:06):
We have to get rid of pride.

Speaker 12 (02:06:07):
God can't work with a pride, and once we get
rid of that pride, we can be used for his purpose.

Speaker 4 (02:06:12):
He can do amazing.

Speaker 12 (02:06:12):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, Pastor David Scarle has been
a real inspirational conversation. I'll have my listeners get a
copy of every book. We'll put it on my blogmin
podcast page fifty five carosee dot com. All for his
glory the near death experience of a modern day job.
You know, I'll tell you what. While you're you're you're
you're dealing with other of the of the deadly sins,
figure out a way to get rid of the sin

(02:06:34):
of envy. I think that is the root of most
all of society's problems. Yeah, I agree, David. It's been
a pleasure having you on the program, So keep up.
The great work, and I'll encourage my listeners to get
a copy of the book and get inspired themselves.

Speaker 12 (02:06:49):
Thank you so much, and God bless you, and God
bless your career listeners.

Speaker 2 (02:06:53):
Thank you, sir. Have a wonderful weekend. A forty fifty
five carosee the talk station, fifty five par CD talk station.
Damn right, it's a wonderful world.

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
Jeez, are.

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
A red blue.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
See we're looking in the right place. Well, I am
looking in the right place today. I always feeling frisky
on a Friday, But I do.

Speaker 2 (02:07:32):
Have next week off, and I'm looking forward to exhaling
and decompressing and uh, purging my brain from all of
the pollution that is in the news. And it's uh
it's a tough road to ho to shut that off
and uh, but you know what, you gotta do it
every once in while, just exhale and think about what
is important in the world and look for those little

(02:07:52):
things the guy called like life's everyday miracles. Could be
really tiny, could be something profound, but they're out there
each and every day if you're thinking about it along
those lines and you're not dwelling on the negative the
whole time. So I'm dwelling on the positive this morning,
and I'm glad my wife's back in town after her conference,
and I am blessed to have been at that event
last night. I've been mentioning it quite a few times
this morning, and not to dwell on it, but I

(02:08:13):
want to give a shout out to the Bikers for
Trump who were I was joking with them, I said,
are you like the Hell's Angels at the Altamont concert
with the Rolling Stones? And they were cracking up sick. No,
We're not here to beat the crap out of anybody,
but they were helping out, and help out they did,
and I got to meet some really terrific guys. Bikers

(02:08:35):
for Trump, just a fun group of guys, and I've
been invited to go on a ride with them. Thank
you to to Jeff for sending out the invitation. Let
me know that you guys are having a ride at
the end of the month.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
I said.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
All the guys I used to ride with have moved away,
so I don't do much of a motorcycle riding. So
as a consequence, now I have a bunch of guys
to go ride with. I don't know if I have
to get one of those bikers for Trump vests, but
they did say it was okay that I don't ride
a Harley. They have all kinds of bikes. They kind
of all look like Harley guys, and I think most

(02:09:06):
of them are. But a real great group of guys anyhow,
And again props to vv ram Ramaswami, terrific candidate and
I'm just excited about him running for governor of the
state of Ohio. Also a story I started out with,
I did mention it also again, but I just have
to bring it back up because it's just it quite frankly,
and closing out the show, I hate the phrase it

(02:09:27):
this way. It just pisses me off. I think almost
everything that DOGE is doing, not what they're doing, but
the revelations they have given us, and it should, it
should literally piss off anybody who's paying tax dollars and
they're just revealing so much about how little the government

(02:09:47):
gives a whit about how they manage our tax dollars
and how simple it seems to have been for a
small group of people rifling through the records using computer,
artificial and ellligence or however the hell they're doing it
have been able to uncover things that you'd think in
the normal order of business government would be doing and

(02:10:08):
would have been doing for years and years, and a
most decent recent revelation on top of already having found,
you know, tens of millions of people that have been
dead or never I mean, couldn't be alive. Possibly, they
started rifling through the uninsured, the unemployment insurance claims, and
only since twenty twenty. It's not like they went back
behind twenty twenty, where I'm sure they will find probably

(02:10:30):
thousands and thousands of more of this type of claim
but they found out that individuals who are in no way,
shape or form possible possibly eligible for unemployment insurance getting
unemployment insurance benefits children under the age of five, twenty

(02:10:53):
eight thousand of them. Remember this is just between twenty
twenty and I guess maybe we'll say as of yesterday.
I don't know if they started doing County are twenty
twenty five, but at least since twenty twenty, say four
to four years and a few months, twenty eight thousand
individuals under the age of five years old collected two
hundred and forty five million dollars in benefits fraud much. Now,

(02:11:16):
how isn't that an automatic red flag in the system?
Birth date not even legal to work at those ages?
Shouldn't it just be immediately chucked out of the system.
Don't you think a system that cared would have already
been built to just forget or deny that type of
uninsurance or unemployment insurance claim two hundred and forty five

(02:11:37):
million in benefits as for those older than one hundred
and fifteen, and as the reporting points out, the oldest
person living in the United States is one hundred and fourteen.
Twenty four thousand, five hundred individuals over the age of
one hundred and fifteen fifty nine million dollars in benefits claimed,

(02:12:01):
and then adding insult to injury because you know, you think, well,
how much worse can it get? Nine thousand, seven hundred
individuals who haven't even been born yet birth dates fifteen
years in the future claimed sixty nine million dollars in
benefit dose revealed in their words. In one case, someone

(02:12:26):
with a birth date in twenty one fifty four claimed
forty one thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
Fraud much.

Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
Elon must said, your tax dollars are going to pay
fraudulent unemployment claims for fake people born in the future.
This is so crazy that I had to read it
several times before it sank in, which is really one
of the reasons I focus on this this morning. So
many times it's just beyond my comprehension. But there you are,
and there they were outside of the Warren County Republican

(02:12:57):
Lincoln Reagan dinner protesting. They even made a comment about that.
It's like, why what are they doing out there at
five o'clock on a Thursday evening. Don't they have anything
better to do? Don't they have families, don't they have
lives to live that they're standing out there holding a
sign that no one can possibly read along Mason Montgomery
Road as we drive along in heavy traffic. Look, we're

(02:13:17):
busy trying to find the driveway. We're busy trying to
navigate the traffic situation. When don't have time to stop
our cars and turn our heads and look at some
stupid sign criticizing Elon Musk and doge, which I presume
some of the signs had for doing work and exposing
this kind of fraud. And this just is a tiny
sliver of all the other fraud that they've uncovered in

(02:13:38):
this short period of time. Look at what Donald Trump
and his administration have been able to do in this
such a fraction, I mean, a few months ferreting out fraud, waste,
and abuse, and you know, not done with the work.
And according to Donald Trump, you know, Musk will go
at some point he's statutorily limited to one hundred and
thirty days or whatever. He'll move on and go back
to running his businesses and being successful businessman. But the

(02:14:02):
Department of Governmental Efficiency will continue and we can all
be thankful for that. Yeah, this is the kind of
information you just kind of have handy with you when
you run into one of those people who's calling Elon
Musk satan or something like that, because you know they
can't defend themselves and you hand them information like this,
you're like, you're against this.

Speaker 1 (02:14:20):
Do you pay taxes anyway?

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
Tech front of with Dave Hatter, your car is exploiting
how your car can apparently spy on you if you
get one of those head units, it's got a camera
in it that records the inside of your car.

Speaker 1 (02:14:34):
For reasons that sort of escaped me.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
But New York City Police Department now sending drones all
over the place sort of really orwelly in reality. That
and then the latest car technology driving people nutcase. That's
a great conversation it always is with Dave Hatter trying
to keep us out of trouble. Troy Davis this great
trust and Valor program he's doing with the Mustang Rescue

(02:14:56):
out in Gosh and you can get involved in that one.
It's great therapy for those struggling with post traumatic stress.
But it's Mustang Journey dot com. If you want to
just hang out with the horses, rehabilitate them, clean up,
spend some time with them, great opportunity exists and they
could certainly use the help financial or just as a volunteer.
And of course if you're a military veteran or first responder,

(02:15:20):
you can get some great therapy working with those beautiful,
beautiful horses. Daniel Davis Deep dive. Yes, the situation Russia
and Ukraine getting worse for the Ukrainians, and of course
European countries really can't effectively do anything about it. Captain
Douglas Ernest The Spirit of a True Patriot. The inspiring
story of Retired Captain Douglas Ernest and an inspirational story

(02:15:40):
from Pastor David Scarlett all for his glory, near death
experience of a modern day job. Sean McMahon, thank you
for helping me out all week. You did a wonderful job,
my friend. I hope you have a wonderful week next week,
and I'll be back the following week, folks.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
Terrific weekend to you.

Speaker 2 (02:15:57):
Fifty five care See dot com for all the podcasts,
and stick around Lundbeck's coming right up.