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Solidly anti murder. That was actually their headline.
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Gway, Travis and Buck Sexton today Glenn on fifty five KRC.
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the vacation.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
There you go. Thank you Jose Jrecker for just confirming
what I already knew and my listeners know. Friday, and
a happy Friday to you. Got a good show coming
up today. It's always good because we get Tech Friday
with Dave Hatter every Friday at six thirty. Coming up
at six thirty. Hijackers hijack smart smart home via Google
Calendar Invite. It didn't know that could happen, did you.
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Cyber scams against seniors growing, and artificial intelligence of roting
doctor's ability to make cancer diagnosis huh eroding, Well, that's
an interesting take on it. That's why we have Dave
had or around find out what that means. I've kind
of figured artificial intelligence would help. You're thinking about doctors
and you have a finite amount of knowledge as a doctor,
you're supposed to be a diagnostician, and you think about
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the just the thousands and thousands of books written on
any given medical topic and all the ins and outs
of any given particular medical condition. You know, your general practitioner.
Somebody walks in, they got some problems, some symptoms or whatever,
and your job is to ferret out and kind of
wean it away and figure out what's the underlying conditions
that are causing the symptoms. I mean there's a multitude
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of things that could go into that. Of course, not
all doctors are equally created. Some are smarter than others,
being diagnosticians, and you would think artificial intelligence boom, type
in the symptom into the computer and it'll spit out
some sort of you know, a list of potential options,
and hey, go work your way through it. Let the
computer solve everything. I've always argued that, you know, we're
moving towards sort of what I'd like to call mba
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practice of medicine, you know, kind of like a four
next loop or if then, if this is presented, then
do that. The doctor's not really thinking. The doctor's relying
on some other algorithm to do the thinking for him
or her. So you know, I don't think we can
deny that technology is going to play a larger and
larger role in medicine, clearly, but you know, part of
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me thinks I want a doctor to be thinking and
you know, existing independent of that computer, because you know, heck,
someday immediate a doctor and the electricity is not going
to be running. So there throws out the option of
using a computer anyway. Sorry, just going on a babbling
rant this morning. So we'll find out what Dave had
or a third segment on that one, what exactly that means.
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Rick Green, Spirit Works Ministries. Rick Green, who whose life
was transformed in a moment time, served prison time as
a drug abuser, addicted and just decided he was going
to embrace God. God spoke to him and slapped him
on the face. Basically, well he did that. He had
a movie produced about his life. I've seen it, a
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pretty good movie and it's being picked up by streaming services.
So congratulations Rick on that milestone. Rick who joined the
program at seven thirty to give us an update, and
he's gonna well he has a message and one of
the messages we need some positivity, most notably after the
last several weeks, and a fine message to spring from.
Since Sarah Herringer is going to join the program at
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eight oh five. Sarah will be in studio, Sarah, of course,
I hope you know the story. Her husband Patrick was
stabbed to death in there over the Rhine home. The
murderer of her husband was released from prison in February
on parole with an ankle monitor, cut his ankle monitor
off and roamed around on this streets without knowledge of
law enforcement who weren't notified that he had taken his
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ankle monitor off, only to kick the door into their
home and stab her husband to death. I just cannot
imagine the horror anyway Sarah will be talking about. She
done a little bit of research. Ah, what do violent
criminals and certain Ohio senators have in common? They both
know ankle monitors don't track in real time, she wrote.
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They know because it's how they got They get away
with murder. So Mordecai Black, the murderer of her late husband,
got off his ankle monitor months before he murdered her husband.
No real time alert, no immediate manhunt. He walked away,
she writes, from supervision, and stayed free until the night
he broke into our home and stabbed them to death.
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She had other illustrations too. Some guy named Brian Goldsby
wore his ankle monitor the night he kidnapped, raped, and
murdered Reagan Toakes, she says he didn't need to cut
her off. He knew no one was watching in real time.
His GPS trail showed every move, but it was only
reviewed after she was dead.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
She also writes of a Johnny Grimes cut his ankle
monitor off in April, vanished and on June's seventh shot
and killed. Lauren Shuler stayed at large because the system
isn't built to catch them when it matters. She's right,
she points out, I mean, this is one of the
reasons for her outspoken advocacy. Her husband's dead, and at
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least she's spreading awareness to the fact that you know,
just because someone has an ankle monitor on, it doesn't
mean really anything. And she's fighting for real time monitoring.
And they're talking about that in Columbus. And what really
irked me, dare I say in the five o'clock hour,
really pissed me off. They had addressed this thing a
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couple of years ago. The House passed a bill that
required real time ankle monitoring, only for that to die
in the Senate. Why that's the initial statement in Sarah's
well letter to the public on this topic. First sentence,
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what do violent criminals and certain Ohio senators have in common? No,
it died in the Senate. Thank you senators from the
state of Ohio. Let's see if we can do it
right this time. I'm sure Sarah will have a little
bit excuse me to say upon that what's going? What
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else is going?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Here's a fun fact. And I I don't know what
to make of this, except to think that maybe the
water seems to me to be inviting for a change.
In the city of Cincinnati, Liz Keating has pulled petitions
to run for Cincinnati City Council. Deadline for to file
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for since a council is August twenty first. But I
found this I think I viewed this as a positive development.
Do you think Louis Keating would spinner wheels and waste
her time having been through the process before and having
lost to a Democrat unless she thought maybe the conditions
were a ripe for a run and a go at
it again? Is the water more inviting for Republicans in
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the city of Cincinnati? Do Republicans have a chance in
the city of Cincinnati? I would like to think so,
given everything that's going on in the Democrats, I think
failure in terms of the representative representing of the city
of Cincinnati and its residents. They seem to be more
interested in special interest groups. But given the conditions in
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downtown Cincinnati, I think the residents appreciate that crime is
indeed a problem. It seems to me to be mismanaged.
They don't follow the will of their constituentich most no,
you think about the Hyde Park Square situation in bond Hill,
where our elected officials ignore what the residents want. That
maybe is a good time.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I wish her all the luck in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
She's a decent woman, and I think she's got some
good ideas, and she's I mean, she's not radically conservative.
I would say she's, you know, a thoughtful, more centrist Republican,
however you want to characterize it. But I don't know.
If she's willing to throw her name into the ring
and go through the whole process of campaigning up until November,
then maybe that is a good sign. You draw your
own conclusions. Love hearing from folks too. Five on three
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seven four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty
two to three talk pound five fifty on AT and
T phones and oh yeah, the developers over in Hyde
Park Square, they're willing to scrap the hotel and make
other concessions. This following negotiations behind the scenes, because of
course they had that ballot initiative eighteen thousand angry Hyde
Park residents signing on to have that zoning proposal overturned
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because well it had flew in the face of what
the Hyde Park residents won.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Move could eliminate the need for a potential public vote
this November. These willing, these concessions that the well healed
developers or well connected developers are willing to make. Colleen
Reynolds partner with lobbing from DSD Advisors, who's working with
the developers, we have said we are willing to remove
the hotel if that's what the neighborhood and the city
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truly want. Well, you know that's what the neighborhood wants, Colleen,
Why do you think they went through the efforts to
get eighteen thousand signatures to put it on the DAN
ballot this November. Apparently an email, she noted the developer's
aim to heat High Park communities consistent call for increased
residential units in the neighborhood that maybe sacon the hotel.
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Original voting plan yes approved by since city Council in
a seven to two vote in spite of the anger
that was expressed by the residents of Hyde Park allowed
a ninety room hotel where the single story Coldwell Banker
building currently sits on Erie Avenue, three hundred and fifty
space underground parking garage one hundred and twenty five unit
apartment complex Hyde Park residents it's on the ballot. Since
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that point in time, High Park neighborhood Council advocacy groups
Save Hyde Park Square and their lawyers apparently meeting behind
closed scores to negotiate concessions, and among those possible concessions
removing the hotel and reducing both the garage capacity and
the amount of ground floor retail. I got a kick
out of this component. Well, what sounds like a movement
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in the right direction. Developers are listening to what the
residents want. They realize that that ballot initiative has a
strong chance of winning in November, so they've adjusted their position.
This is what you do in negotiations. However, according to
the spokesperson, Reynolds, any concessions by the well heeled, well
connected developers likely would result in them asking for city
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incentives to help finance the project, saying, we understand that
many of the neighborhood's requests will require public support to achieve.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Really, private developer going to make private profits, going to
make money for themselves, but it's going to require public
dollars to get it accomplished. Sounds familiar to me. COVID
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I was driving home and uh, motorheads Killed by Death
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came on. Immediately, thought of you, Strak. It's it's a
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I love to hear from listeners, Well, you know, I
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call this progress. People who think that Donald Trump's evil
Orange man, not anything accomplished, uh, and think that he's
trying to kill Social Security at least, he's actually doing
something too well to preserve Social Security and increase efficiency
in Social Security. Actually his efforts have borne fruit. Trumped
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out of the other day, removing two hundred and seventy
five illegal aliens from Social Security and wiping out twelve
point four million names listened as being over one hundred
and twenty years old. Now this is something that could
have been accomplished years and years ago. He also reminded
folks that the Big Beautiful bill does cut tax on
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Social Security. So social Security recipients, you got a little
love from Donald Trump anyway. So we've already kicked nearly
two hundred and thirty five illegal aoiens off Social Security system.
Put it out many of them had already left the country,
and put it out that, well, we keep sending checks
to people who are not eligible for Social Security benefits.
You know, we're already in a trajectory to go belly
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up on Social Security? Isn't it a wonderful thing that
people who are not eligible are no longer getting benefits
they weren't entitled to. You should be thankful for all
of this. Twelve point four million names listening on Social
Security database over one hundred and twenty years of age,
You said, just think of that. So you had twelve
point four million names, were they over one hundred and
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twenty years old? Is that right? That's a hell of
a statement, said, I've never heard of anybody at one
hundred and twenty five. He put it out, there were
one hundred and thirty five thousand people roughly who were
listed who are over one hundred and sixty years old.
That's inefficient government, folks. I mean that should never happen.
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Do you think in private industry that could even possibly happen?
This is just a great little, one tiny, tiny data
point illustrated. They don't care. And other improvements ate the
Soil Security Agency handling seventy percent more calls than last year.
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They lowered the average speed of an answer time by
eighty percent. It was previously thirty minutes, it's now down
to just six The improved use of technology has enabled
ninety percent of calls to the national line to be
served via automated self service options or callbacks, minimizing hold times.
Average customer time weights at field office have declined twenty
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three percent, five times as many visitors as scheduled appointments
compared to last year. Field offices fully staffed I have
twenty four hours, seven day a week feater and sixty
five day access to online accounts after they reduced the
long standing schedule downtime of twenty nine hours per week
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to no downtime, which allows more than two hundred and
eighty thousand more customers to access their accounts online in
the first two weeks loan. I call that an improvement.
Twenty six percent reduction in the backlog of initial disability
claims from an all time high of last year. Average
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processing time cut by five days. Average waytime for a
disability hearing has been cut by sixty days. Well, who
has a problem with that? No one. Do these increase
inefficiencies bear a political stripe? Well, one could argue that
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they do. It's the Republicans who got in there and
cleaned house and improved efficiencies something. Apparently the numbers we're
not willing or interested in doing. Meanwhile, they handwring constantly
about oh my god, they're coming after your social security. Well,
you know what, if you improve the conditions within the department,
you improve efficiencies, you ultimately save money, and you provide
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better customer service, giving the public a perception that their
tax dollars are actually doing something. Days. The agency also
identified more than one billion dollars in cost avoidance and
efficiencies in just this fiscal year. They address billions of
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dollars in improper plant and payments. So it can be done.
If we need to bring this kind of focus to
all areas of government. Yes, government could be could service
much more efficiently with a lot fewer people.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Days.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ah, let us see, you got local stories coming out.
Maybe we'll hear from Tom. Don't. Oh, today's a new day,
and we do have some things going on locally to
talk about in addition to the ones the stories I
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They beg for the beatdown. Parks down from the Hamilton
County Veteran Services Commission.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
She resigned writing a lot of the county commissioners. I
write to inform you that I'm resigning from the Hamlin
County Veteran Services Commission, effective immediately. I appreciate your appointment
and proud of the work the Commission is accomplished to
improve services and support for our veterans. She got appointed
in January. I wonder why she stepped out. You think
it's because she's taking heat because she believes that Holly,
the victim in the drunken brawl who got socked in
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the eye colecock sucker punch, begged for that to happen. Hmmm,
And thus far she has never retracted her comments. I
think we've identified the problem with society's breakdown. Let's go
over to well students arrested after fights outside North College
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Hill High School who were encouraged by their adult parents,
I guess, to get engaged in a fight Courtning to
Superintendent Eugene Blaylock, North College Hill High School District, he
said the fist fight happened Wednesday afternoon right next to
the high school. Fight involved not only students but adults.
According to doctor Blaylock, he said he was able to
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break up the fight, but another fight between the students
took place shortly after. That second fight could have been avoided,
he said, if adults had intervened. Quote, they're egging them
on and hand gestures, let them fight, let them fight,
let them fight, hands up. And those students viciously go
after each other, and there was some serious punches that
were thrown close quote doctor Blaylock. Playlock said, Well, there
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are things in place within the district that helps students
learn how to handle stress and conflict appropriately. More needs
to be done at home to prevent things like this
from happening. Oh yeah, I know, Joe, just like you
think exactly. And here's a statement from doctor Blaylock. We
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have to change the mentality of the parents.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
If we can deal with the mentality of the parents,
I hope and pray that these students will see a
better way of dealing with situations. But it has to
start at home with the first teachers. Well, I think
doctor Blaylock's put his thumb on the exact problem or
his finger on the exact problem. We've gotten society. Well,
too many parents don't care. Why is there a curfew
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in place this weekend? Yes, the curfew has kicked in beginning,
I believe today. How is it that there is a
fourteen year old running around at two o'clock in the
morning or three o'clock in the morning in downtown Cincinnati,
with parents oblivious to what that child is doing, where
that child is Yeah, see doctor Blaylock. Apparently the students
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involved in the fights are going to be facing disciplinary action. Well,
I hope women arrest after using a box cutter to
cut another woman happening in June and Rose Lawn. Video
footage help since any police identify Charnice Lewis as the
suspect in the late June attack. Video shows a woman
who appears to be Lewis going to Vibez Hookah bar
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and getting into a physical altercation with the victims. Lewis
ran out of the bar in the renting road, leaving
her car behind the victims. Sierra Simms, talking with local
Fox nineteen, said that she was in a conflict with Lewis,
who claimed Simms was carrying on a relationship with her boyfriend.
Sims denied to claim. Said we began as an online
harassment led to her tires being slashed. Thank you, Joe,
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I was waiting for it. Sims said it turned violent
June twenty nine, one night, I was outside trying to
enjoy myself and then I got cut. Claimed Lewis had
a box cutter. She turned around to find out that yes,
she was being cut at the time. Doctors told her
the cut in her face narrowly missed her uh A
trade Geminal Nerve said the cut on the throat could
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have blocked her airway if it was deeper and the
cut on her arm could have left her hand paralyzed.
Simms now has scarring down her cheek in the front
of her neck forearm also cut. That is a significant
scar runs from above her left ear all the way
down the center of her neck across her cheek. Jeez wheeze.
A vehicle wanted to connection with multiple shootings and since
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they led police on a pursuit yesterday afternoon ending in
several arrests. Chervil Police Department mentioned that the officer said
that the vehicle, Silver Ford Explorer, wanted for questioning a
connection with two shootings in the city. Police attempted to
pull the car over right near the day's end the
eleven thousand block eleven, but the vehicle took off. Chervo
police followed it onto I two seventy five East and
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I seventy one South until it exited onto Montgomery Road,
hitting several other cars during the chase. Apparently, the Ford
engine failed and caught fire, stopping the I stopping the
card at the intersection. You know, it would have been
better if it was a Tesla. Jelt the tesla being
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followed first into flames. Anyway, once it stopped at Orchard
and Ohio Avenue and Silverton. All three suspects ran a way,
but the officers caught them. No injuries reported during the chase.
Police continuing the investigation. Yes, and the Eastern say it's
going to be enforcing the curfew this week. Mayor, I
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have to have purval. So two curfew ordinances recently passed
in Cincinnati will be implemented beginning today. Citywide curfew eleven
pm to five am for all unaccompanied miners under the
age of eighteen. Guardians of those miners see doctor Blaylock.
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Designated air including the Central Business District and over the
Ryan will have curfew between nine pm and five am,
some exceptions for all unaccompanied minors under the age of eighteen.
Now that area runs from Liberty South all the way
to the River and between Central Avenue or Central Parkways.
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The case may be all the way over to Broadway
or Sycamores the case may be uh, Mayor said. Anyone
who breaks the curfew will first be contacted by non
law enforcement That will be the three to one one
staff or members of the Collaborative Agreements Problem Solving staff.
How you think Iris Rowlie's going to be picking them up,
Joe whatever. For of all said, for all enforcements, CPD
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is trained to I love this, to ask for compliance.
If that fails, to tell the person to comply, and
if that fails to demand compliance, ask tell demand, do
what the hell after asking telling a demand? If they
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do not apply, since they police can then take the
miner to the newly created curfew center at Seven Hills
Neighborhood Houses, where staff will then take the job up
of contacting the child's parents or guardians who should see
doctor Blaylock. That facility reportedly will have food, water at
a safe place for them to wait until the parent
or guardian can be contacted. According to provol miners who
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can't go home or don't have a home or taking
a lighthouse. Youth and family services also closed. According to
the park boards, parks are being closed beginning at nine
pm all the way through six am. You cannot go
to the public landing Smale, Riverfront Park, p At Park,
Washington Park, or Ziegler Park. It's unclear to me if
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that means the curfew applies to the parks or no
one's allowed at these locations. I think it may be
the former, although wcp's reporting is a little well absent
on that component. Five point thirty six fifty five kr
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you call, I would rather take the calls. Either way,
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we go be right back.
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Can always do that. Five eighty three talk on FT
fifty on eight and two pounds if you'd ware to call,
But first, Joe Strecker, offering comments during the breakdore over
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some logistical difficulties in enforcing the curfew which kicks in
today Black Family Reunion's taking places. They got some of
the parks down on the banks shut down beginning at
nine pm. Now, I know there's exceptions for the curfew
for certain sanctioned events and if your parents are present,
but you know, he also mentioned the logistical hurdles following
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high school football games held within the city. You know,
if they end around nine pm or so and everybody's
milling around and leaving. And he asked me if my
parents went to the high school football games that we
were supposed to be at when we told our parents
that we were at the high school football games. It
was like, no, of course they didn't. They didn't have
any interest in going to Cokills High School play football,
so my parents were never there at those events. Anyway,
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We'll let them sort it out, Joe. I'm sure to
go real, just like smooth, no problems whatsoever. Anyhow, let's
get them the stacker stupid. We go to Madison County, Nebraska,
where the traffic stop in Madison County turned into what
they described as a bizarre arrest after deputies found a
naked driver hauling stolen motorcycles and drugs. What Sunday, August tenth,
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Highway eighty one, according to the Madison County Sheriff's Office, released,
deputy patrolling on that highway about one o'clock in the morning,
we found a pickup truck fulling a flatbed trailer without
functioning lights. Pickup failed to stop immediately and continued driving
north after the lights went on on the emergency lights
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before turning east on Northeast Highway Industrial Highway pickup truck
hauling two motorcycles. Deputy's approached the vehicle. They found the
pickup truck driver, identified as forty seven year old Kit
Pulston of Iowa, completely naked as a tradition. Pulston asked
why he was naked, he stated he was hot and
allergic to his own sweat. What He also told Deptie's
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driver's license it expired and possibly suspended, and a dispatcher
did confirm it was indeed suspended, according to the Sheriff's
Life Office. During the interaction, Poulston's alertness deteriorated rapidly, leading
the deputy to initially request medical assistance. However, after regaining composure,
Pulson arrested for driving under suspension. Also told deputies he
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had a pipe and dab, slang associated with marijuana concentrates.
They are d joe search performing the vehicle, following items
found a container with a substance believed to be the
TC concentrate that i e. The DAB, a marijuana water pipe,
a black pistol case containing a BB gun with obscured
serial numbers, initially suspected to be a real firearm. Poulson
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put in the patrol car. Deputy said he resisted, dropping
to the ground when he refused to move, and then
refusing to move the arrival backup, Deputy Pulson transported to
Madison County Jail. Motorcycles also run through dispatch. One was
a black Honda gold Wing reportedly stolen. Other motorcycle a
black Housackey registered to a different person but not listed
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as stolen. Facing multiple charges possession of controlled substance, driving
into suspension, resisting arrest, and defective vehicle lighting. Surprise, he
wasn't ov I five forty five fifty five KRCD talk station.
More of that coming up. Be right back.
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Right back to the statue. Student, an happy Friday for you.
I've got some good plans for the weekend. Uh, this
is bizarre. Responding to an indecent exposure complaint, police found
Anthony Smith, who's thirty two, walking around a Florida park
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yesterday afternoon, actually last Thursday, wearing the following women's lingerie,
the bottom of which were the thong variety with mister
Smith's genitals fully exposed, fake breasts, a wig of long
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black hair, a black mask around his face what I
will delicately describe as a genital ring. I'll leave out
the explanation provided by the smoking gun for what that's
used for and a black foxtail protruding from his posterior.
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I will also not read the explanation of how it
remained affixed to his body. The flag for us in
this case, You're right. Joe described as working as a
party slash wedding DJ. He allegedly tried to evade the
police who initially discovered him inside the Indian Riverside Park
and Jensen Beese apprehended near the Children's Museum. Witness of
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Dollar nine one one to report a suspicious individual with
his sexual organs exposed was in the park to pick
up their kids from a summer camp at the museum,
but said that no children witnessed the event, thank god.
Asked by police what was going on today, Smith reportedly
said that he suffers from some sort of sexual addiction
and engaged in leude behavior which arouses him. He added
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that quote this was not the first time he had
run in and run in with law enforcement for the
same kind of behavior, according to the police report. Convicted
back in twenty seventeen of indecent exposure resisting arrest after
he was spotted naked and pleasuring himself in public. In
posters comment, Smith reportedly said he does this because pornographic
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materials do not suffice his sexual desires. That's in quotes,
and that he does not want to violate his morals
whatever by having sexual relations before marriage or by using
a female solely for sexual purposes. Again his words. Sentence
to six months of jail back in that twenty seventeen case,
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told arrestling officers that he'd been arrested twice in the
past for committing the same act exposure of sexual organs
resisting arreth, both misdemeanor. Smith booked into the county jail
where he's being held in advance of his court appearance. Jeez, Joe,
(33:23):
you want to create a flag for him? Joe used
artificial intelligence to create a flag last week. It worked
really well too. Let's see a young girl slumber party
abruptly ended in Lawrence and Lawrence early Sunday morning after
a man entered the residence uninvited, removed his clothes, court
to Lawrence Police department at two am. Officers responded to
(33:45):
the neighborhood near the intersection of West twenty first in
Louisiana Street finding several young girls and supervising adults. Extremely upset.
Officers then learned two girls who were asleep on the
couch allegedly woke to see a naked man in their home.
Girls called for adults. Naked guy, who police have not
yet identified, traveled to the back bedrooms where another man
forced him out of the residence. Team of officers arrest
(34:08):
of the man nearby. Another team worked to call m
the children to get the details about the incidents. Officers
have no reason to believe naked guy knew anyone in
the residence. Uh Seattle Beach back to Florida. Forty three
(34:28):
ye old man facing a felony charge of police see
he deliberately posted sexually explicit photographs of a woman in
public areas of a local public store a court of
the Seattle Beach Police Department. Officers showed up with the
publics on the Highway A one A after multiple nude
images of the victim were discovered, taped or placed throughout
the store. Photographs were printed on postcard style paper found
(34:52):
in shopping carts, the men's restroom, the soda island outdoor
merchandise been Investigators say the images were private photos. The
victim had previously shared with Christopher Stamen during their relationship,
told police she never gave consent for the pictures to
be distributed or publicly displayed. Okay, what do we learn
from this? Don't do that. You never know if your
(35:20):
relationship is going to go sideways. Now do you just away?
Just don't take the picture. One of the image described
to the rest report as sexually explicit, uh depicted the victim. Well,
I won't read what they she was doing. Just engage
in an act of pleasure in yourself. Officers know the
materials were place in areas where they would be visible
(35:41):
to the general public, including minors, with the apparent intent
to cause the victim embarrassment and emotional distress. Store surveillance
video showed this Stamen guy entering the publics on two
separate occasions, appearing to conceal his identity to avoid and
avoiding certain parts of the store. Later seen walking toward
the child kart area carrying an item, catching the size
and appearance of the recovered photographs. Stamen later observed leaving
(36:04):
the store and driving away into blue Mitsubishi cameras did
not capture h physically placing the images. The location inside
the store strongly supported his supported his involvement. However, in
the placement of those images, victim identified Statemen from surveillance
footage and also told police about a recent custody dispute,
which she thought was a motivating factor. Further described a
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history of similar incidents in which Stamen allegedly distributed nude
images of her without consent, probably cause to arrest him
on one kind of sexual cyber harassment under a Florida
statute involving that third degree felony punishable way up to
five years in prison. Five fifty five. Do you I
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have kere Se detalk station. Remember, once it's digitally photographed,
it's out there. It's never going away. Tech Friday coming
up and an early happy anniversary to tech Friday's Day Hatter.
He celebrated his thirty second anniversary yesterday. We'll hear about
hijackers hijacking a smart home via Google Google Calendar invite.
(37:09):
That's interesting. That'll be our first topic with tech Friday's Day.
Have had are coming up at six thirty Feel free
to call me. Got other things to talk about? Be
right back. Today's top stories at the top of the hour.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
It's information that matters to me.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Fifty five krs the talk station de talk station at
Gee Friday, Tech Friday with Dave Adder, Bottom of the
hour and hijackers hijacked a smart home using a Google calendar.
Internet of Things right, Dave Adder. Cyber scams against seniors
are growing, and artificial intelligence claiming to erode a doctor's
(37:44):
ability to make cancer diagnosis. Those are our topics of
conversation coming up at the bottom of the hour. Fast
forward to seven thirty. Rick Green, He's got a powerful
spiritual message spirit Workministries dot com or Greens organization. He
does charitable work every single week kend of downtown Cincinnati,
serving up sandwiches to folks who don't have food. He
(38:05):
has a movie out about his life. It was made
after his story came out. He had this amazing instantaneous transportation,
going from a man addicted to drugs and alcohol and
serving time in prison too being touched by the hand
of God. I guess is kind of a boiled down way.
Rick describes what happened to him just this moment of
(38:26):
instant transformation. He never did drugs again. He turned his
life around, happily married, helping folks in the community out
and of course a powerful story made into a movie
which has now been picked up by streaming services. We'll
hear from Rick about that development, but also his message
about needing more positivity after the last several weeks, or
you could even argue years positive message from Rick Green.
(38:47):
That'll be at seven point thirty, followed by Sarah Herringer.
She'll be in studio. Sarah, of course, the widow she
lost her husband, Patrick Herringer, who was stabbed to death
in there over the Rhine home, mainly because well, an
evil person existed. That evil person had an ankle monitor
on was supposed to be monitored by those who monitor
ankle bracelets, but apparently no one is monitoring them. He
(39:12):
was out for months before this murder happened, and she
asked the simple question why and how now this is?
We learned from Sarah's just tragic experience that well, no
one monitors the ankle bracelets and what irks her and
she wrote about in an open letter. She talked about
(39:33):
the various illustrations and other instances where people had ankle
monitors on that weren't monitor or cut them off and
weren't monitored, and went off to commit horrific crimes like
Mordecai Black did and killing her husband. But thanks to
reporting and looking into this, Ohio, we found out Ohio
already had a chance to fix the problem there was.
Back in twenty twenty two, the House passed House Bill
(39:56):
one sixty six in a ninety two to one vote vote,
which would give law enforcement live GPS access and instant alerts.
Is there anything wrong with that? That's exactly what I
think everybody, including me thought, was really going on. What's
the point of an ankle monitor If no one's monitoring
(40:18):
the ankle monitors, It's like duh. So look, they realized
it was a problem, they went to the whole legislative process.
They actually got a bill passed in the House under
almost one hundred percent bipartisan passage. What happened, It died
in the Senate Judiciary Committee with no vote. I am
going to do that, Joe Strecker, because Sarah Herringer identified
(40:40):
the senators who were on the Senate Judiciary Committee who
didn't vote on this and it died. Nathan Manning, Republican Chair,
Michael Reynolds, Republican Vice Chair, Lewis Blessing, Republican Alan Kutrona Republican,
Teresa Gavroni Republican, Paul Hicks Hudson Democrat, and Kent Smith Democrat.
(41:04):
So this fall in honor of her late husband, they
have teed up the Patrick Herringer Act. It'll be before
the Senate, and as she writes, we will be watching
every single memor And for those of you planning to
vote no because you think it costs too much, look
me in the eye and tell me the cost I
(41:26):
paid wasn't worth guarding with your vote in your life.
Passionate woman she is. She writes that Patrick Herringerach won't
undo what's been done to me, to Reagan's family, or
to Laurence the other two people who lost loved ones
because people weren't being monitored, but it will slam shut
(41:47):
one of the easiest doors for violent offenders to walk through.
That has to happen. One percent. Amen to Sarah Herringer again.
She'll be on in the program in the studio at
eight oh five talk about that and have any community
officials elected officials reached out to Sarah and talked to
her and asked for her, asked her how she's doing,
(42:08):
talked to her about her potential solutions to the problem,
what her life was like as she lived. She and
her husband Patrick lived in Over the Rhine had their
business broken into multiple times, like other businesses in the area.
Last time she was on the program, she recounted in
multiple experiences about business owners and residents and Over the
Rhine experiencing the problem of crime, which, of course the
(42:30):
mayor and other elected officials in the city want to
make go away by not talking about it or telling
you it's your just perception. It's not real. Now to Sarah,
it's as real as it gets. Let's gore the phone
and see what Mississippi. James, Guy, James, welcome back to
the Morning Show. Always good to hear from you, my friend.
Speaker 7 (42:48):
Good morning doctor Brian. I come in peace, love everybout it,
and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I don't want to do anything about that attitude, James.
It's a good one.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
I'm looking forward with your seven there that you getting supposed.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
To call in. Rick is a good man.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
Now, you know, we look at I always say, was
I always say with spiritual beings going through human experience,
and I think we got to get back to that
spiritual part and the human experience. We got going through
identified six of them and real quick, politics, justice system, education, finance,
(43:33):
medical system, and the last one being the religion system.
You know, every religion system.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
Cares a whole lot of power.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
For a whole lot of different people, and it's man made,
can be man manipulated. So yeah, who in control at
the time that leads? Yeah, and I said religion. Now
I didn't say the spiritual part.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I know exactly what you're talking about, James.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
Right, you may do, but a lot of listener may be,
you know, on different wavelengths. That's going to clear it
up over the air.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Well, think all people knew is to think about various
religious leaders over the centuries who have been corrupt themselves,
using religion to manipulate the religious population that looks up
to those religious figures for their own personal interest or
other nefarious purposes. That's been going on since the dawn
of religion, James, I'll just put a point on it.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
I agree, because it carries a lot of power. You know,
even when they served up that blond hair, blue eyed,
pale skin, Jesus, you know, have come out of power,
and that led to a lot of white supremacy because
it was like, Okay, this is Jesus. You know, this
is the white Jesus. Yeah, so opposit is he's black,
(44:55):
he must be the death. So we've been demonized so bad,
you know, demonize, marginalize, manipulated, tricked. But hey, some of
us had opportunity to make it better for the black
but then we got selfish. You know. You look at
the stuff and I sit down and think, I say,
(45:17):
since the sixties, and I do believe a lot of
white people haven't been upset since the sixties, when the
government intervened and tried to put some programs in place
to correct some of the perceive wrong. I said perceived,
because everybody don't say it's wrong, but some of us
(45:39):
that the perceive it was wrong. Some program was put
in place, and our personally had talks with black people
that said, hey, I got mine, the rest of them
betty get theirs. Well, that's not the reason it was
put in place. It was put in place to help
each other keep moving along. But then we got related
(46:00):
by some of them's system and went out and bought
the next biggest house, the biggest car, the biggest boat.
And now you're in the finance system. Now you got
a big bar and steel to try to keep up
this this image you have created. Yes, if you have
created a different image, you could have helped a multitude
(46:22):
of peoples.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
That is true. Yeah, you buy into the commercialization reality.
You have to have this, you need that. You're not
somebody unless you own something. Yeah, we all get manipulated
by that. You know. Some people say that capitalism is
to blame for that mentality, but you know, you can
live in a capitalist society and still have this idea
that no, you don't need that many stuff and things.
You can be content, most utably, if you have a
(46:47):
spiritual grounding, you can find content without material things.
Speaker 7 (46:50):
James, Now you look back at the at the PowerBook.
What two fish and five loads of bread that's supposed
to fit multitude of people, Whether that's true or not.
But like I say, some of the program that was
put in place in the sixties US black people could
have fed a multitude of people's black, white, brown, yellow, red.
(47:16):
But ay, when we got to that greed part, you know,
and begin to pack it in. Now you leave the
other peoples out there that were maybe wasn't as fortunate
as you was to connect to it. And I look
at that up and down the scale. You know, we
can talk about blue collar crime, what about the white
(47:37):
collar crime, We can talk about social welfare, what about
corporate welfare. Until we get into an environment where we're
doing an honest you know, not emotional, but try to
come up with an honest discussion, well people can see
word they fit in and why they fit in, and
(47:58):
you know, just hey, we just got to keep truggeting
at it. You know, maybe one day to come to peace.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Maybe we'll keep our fingers crossed. James appreciate your comments
as always. Hope you have a wonderful weekend. I do,
and we'll talk about that spiritual element. Coming up with
Rick Green at seven point thirty five and three seven
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Speaker 1 (49:41):
Our six fifty five KCV talkstation. Happy Friday Tech PARTA
with Dave Hatter coming up next and meantime over to
the phones. Thank you Steve for holding over the break
or holding over the break there, Welcome to the morning show.
Speaker 8 (49:55):
Yes, sir, I will poke the mayor. And it's Friday,
the day you're angry because you get to sleep tomorrow.
But I called you up on a Friday.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
Anyway.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
I know that's al. He's taking a chance very quickly,
an honor to follow Mississippi James and precede Cribbage Mike.
I've met them both at listener Lunch. Very nice guys. Really,
you know, I've been to three of those. I don't
go to you know, obviously I don't go to them all,
but occasionally I go to one fun time, so I
(50:26):
enjoy that. Rick Green. I hear him every Saturday with
Gary Jeff Walker. He always does a Bible verse that
he talks about. There is a joy in that man's
voice that cannot be fake.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, it is so.
Speaker 8 (50:42):
He is so genuine. I've never met him. You can
just hear it in his voice, how truly blessed by
God he is, so I enjoy listening to him. Let
me get to my point. You said, why do they
put ankle monitors on people when they know they don't work.
I called you on this before, or I saw a
dateline they put the ankle monitor on a third party
(51:05):
monitors this. It's like a fingerprint left at the crime.
After they come back and kill somebody, they said, Okay,
he was here, you know, we tracked him here or whatever. Right,
So why do they do it? The same reason they
have airport security. It makes people feel like something's being done.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Until they find out that nothing is being done.
Speaker 8 (51:25):
Steve, Well, very little is being done. In other words,
I have a job at the airport. Security is something
that looks like, hey, we're all safe. Yes, it screens
out you know, the dufices that you know whatever they
brought a n ail file on by mistake or whatever whatever,
(51:46):
you know, I mean, and it could catch somebody. But
if you're serious about wanting to do something, get something
on an airplane. Not hard to do. You get a
job at the airport. There are ways to get to
the area you're not supposed to be able to get
to without going through security, and you can do it
without going through security.
Speaker 7 (52:05):
So you just get a.
Speaker 8 (52:07):
Job at the airport. It's not hard to do. Everybody recognize, Hey,
there are so and so, and be the be the
custodian that has access to you know, every lock door
there is, and nobody pays attention to. But yeah, the
ankle monitor thing, it's a joke. They know these people
are still a threat to society. They turn them loose anyway,
(52:29):
they're pretending they're doing something to help us enjoy your weekend.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Care me good to hear from you. Steve and Sarah
Herringer will be in studio to talk about that and
bringing it to everybody's attention that, yeah, you shouldn't feel
good about the ankle monitor program because well they're not
monitoring them. Courbage, Mike, Welcome back to the Morning Show,
My submarine or friend coome on.
Speaker 9 (52:48):
Brian pops right back to Steve too. You know, just
another reason why anybody has never been to a listener lunch.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
You've got to come.
Speaker 9 (52:57):
I would like to congratulate the assistant prosecutor who, in
open court yesterday dispelled the narrative that the quote unquote
black leaders held on Tuesday, And even if it was true,
their whole premise was ridiculous that the fact that that
justified what happened in the street. But once again, when
you go out of your way to twist the truth
to fit a narrative, and you're the one that looks
(53:19):
like a fool. So you can add that press conference
they held tuesday on the heap of Tawana Brawley, Duke
Lacrosse and Michael Brown. Hands up, don't shoot because maybe
I missed it, but I didn't see any of those
so called leaders at Iris's rollies pep reality there on
the steps of city Hall, So maybe they learned their lesson.
Take a couple step back, pump the brakes, wait for
(53:42):
the facts to come out.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Indeed, a lot of facts came out of yesterday's hearing
for the purpose involved in the beat down. Yeah, it's amazing.
Once the video rolls out, a different narrative come unfold
and shoots down the arguments that are being made by
the defenders of the folks issuing a beatdown tech front
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Speaker 4 (55:30):
Always my pleasure, Brian, I look forward to it every week.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Hey, Internet of Things, I'm guessing that's involved in the
first time. What have we learned from Dave? Stay the
hell away from Internet of Things devices. You don't need them,
You never had them before. Why do you think you
need an internet connected coffee maker? Anyway? So hijackers hijacked
an entire smart home using an interesting vehicle to do
(55:53):
it too.
Speaker 4 (55:54):
And this is not at all surprising to me. I'm
surprised it's taken this long. So it's it's interesting, Brian,
because you know, in the past couple of months, a
lot of the bloom has started to come off the
AI rows. You're starting to see more and more articles
and reporting on issues with AI. We're gonna we're gonna
talk about another topic related to that here in a minute.
(56:17):
And you know, one of the concerns I've had since
AI has become a thing that regular people interact with
is that when you couple AI and the fact that
it can generate content and now thanks to augentic AI
or AI agents, some people will use one or the
other term for essentially the same thing. The idea that
(56:38):
it's not just me sitting at a computer entering prompts,
you know, asking an AI like groc to do something
for me. I can build an agent that will just
act on its own to some extent, right, And we've
we've now started to see examples where that started to
go off the rails a little bit. And the bottom
line before I get to the main point here, is,
(56:59):
you know, as long as these tools hallucinate, right, that's
a technical term. Sometimes people will call it confabulate. They
just make things up. As long as that happens at
a rate more than let's say, point one percent, can
you really trust it to do anything of any real significance,
especially on its own in an autonomous fashion. You know,
(57:21):
if the hallucineration rate is let's say twenty percent or
even ten percent, are you going to allow it to
take action on behalf of your business, like transfer money
around or something. You know, if the ten percent of
the time it makes a mistake and one time it
trains all the money out of your bank account, well
that's a real problem. Right. So again I want to
(57:43):
be clear, I'm not against this stuff, and I'm not
saying it doesn't have value, because it does. But you
have to understand what it can and can't do. And again,
my real concern is when you know the limitations and
you see people doing things with it that don't make sense,
including like connecting it to things like Internet of Things devices,
I just see nothing but problems. And you know, Brian,
(58:05):
I've been on the Internet of Things aka smart devices,
smart TV, smart coffee makers, refrigerators, et cetera. For a
long time. And it's not that I'm necessarily against them either.
It's that they're not designed with your privacy and security
in mind. They're designed with speed to market, market charities
of use in mind. And much of the stuff is
cheap junk coming from China. Where you can't be sure
(58:28):
the software doesn't have back doors in it, then you
can be sure that in two or three years you
won't be getting software updates for those devices anymore. People
don't know how to set them up right, they don't
know how to configure them securely, they don't know how
to keep them secure and that sort of thing. So
it's to me, Brian, this is a perfect example of
like your peanut butter is on my chocolate, know your
(58:48):
chocolate's on my peanut butter?
Speaker 1 (58:49):
Are bad?
Speaker 4 (58:50):
So now we're going to take AI and combine it
with the smart devices that are inherently insecure, and bad
things will happen. I guarantee it. And now Wired did
this story you read the headline. In this particular case,
hackers used Gemini, which is AI from Google, and they
used it to attack a calendar invite and eventually took
(59:12):
over all the devices at a quote smart home unquote. Now,
I would call a smart home dumb because, and I
encourage folks, I know a lot of this will sound
far fetched to people who don't research this, don't have
these devices, haven't really thought through the possible consequences. And again, Brian,
I'm not totally against a quote smart home. At some
(59:35):
future point, living in a world like the Jetson's, for example,
would be nice if you could trust everything to behave
as it's supposed to and you knew how to configure
it correctly it was secured by design, that sort of thing.
But that's not the case. This stuff is all still
on its infancy. And imagine there's a Black Mirror episode
(59:55):
I don't remember which one. I encourage people to go
find it where a woman lives at a smart home
and it's just kind of goes crazy and starts doing
all kinds of irritating things like imagine if your smoke
detector started going off and you couldn't shut it off.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, Or imagine or if you're living in the Jetson's
home and Rosie the robotic maid comes unleash because the
Chinese commingist party hacked into her and she attacks you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Yeah, that's even better. Instead of Rosie just being the
friendly maid, suddenly there's Rosy with a big butcher knife
chased me down the house. Yeah. Or or but on
a more serious note, again, take the robots out of it,
take physical agency out of it. Imagine whether it's hackers again,
hackers using AI to try to attack your smart home.
You know, you know what the winner's like here in Cincinnati.
(01:00:41):
Imagine in the coldest week of winter, suddenly your furnace
won't work right. I mean, that's it's a real problem.
Could it be deadly? Perhaps? It certainly could cause an
enormous amount of damage when the pipes in your house
freeze and then burst again. I know this stuff sounds
far affetched. Brian Well I never.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Thinking about a story that really actually happened. That's that's
not the thing, you know, it's real. I'm not making
this stuff up. There are documented examples of this kind
of thing, and it's easy for me, as someone who's
done this for as long as I have to to
see the flaws in the systems we currently have and
to be able to speculate, you know, throw your smart
(01:01:20):
car in there.
Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
We've talked about this before. Brian, and there have been
many people raising the alarm about autonomous vehicles, smart vehicles,
you know, the idea that they could be weaponized. And
as you think about smart vehicles coming from China, let's say,
where again they have back doors that could be taken over. Yeah,
it is entirely in the realm of possibility. I'm not
saying it's likely or probable, but I'm saying it's possible
(01:01:43):
that hackers could take a single manufacturer's cars and turn
them all into weapons. Right at five pm on Friday,
every model of this type of car made after this
time will just become a weapon. It'll just accelerate uncontrollably.
That's where we're going with all of this stuff. And
again it's not that it's necessarily bad, it's we are
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moving very quickly and the right incentives to build things
that are secured by design or not in place. You know,
people want to be first, they want market share, they
need to make it easy to use for the average consumer.
And as a result, all of this stuff is complete garbage.
And that's why constantly telling people you should not buy
this stuff, you should get rid of what you have.
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I get it's hard to find things that aren't quote
smart unquote anymore. But you know, until we get serious
about privacy and security in these devices, we're putting ourselves,
our families, and our organizations at increasing risk by buying
this garbage and especially connecting it to AI that could
potentially control it. It's not good.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
It's not good.
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Get and I have none of it?
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dot Com. I thought it couldn't get any worse for
seniors being the targets of cyber scams. I guess it's
getting worse. Dave hatter Well.
Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Sally Brian it is and uh yeah, not shocking. And
before we get too deep into that, I meant to
mention this in the last segment. And for god, I
found a great as it pertains to IoT the Internet
of Things, a great post on Twitter slash x many
years ago. Whenever I do in person presentations, I always
use this so and I wish I would have come
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up with us myself. It's this guy just post tech enthusiasts.
My entire house is smart kind again going back to
this idea of the smart home that was hacked and
then tech workers. The only piece of technology my house
is a printer, and I keep a gun next to
it so I can shoot it if it makes a noise.
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Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Be that guy? Amen? Amen.
Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
So. So this is reporting from the Cyber Insurance News,
and I think it's so important to remind folks that,
you know, you have seniors out there who are not
nearly as familiar with this technologies younger people. Now that's
not to say younger people aren't being attacked clearly either,
but you know, you see things like the grandparents scam,
and you know, I know that has been reported on
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here locally. You know, I've done some testing with some
of this voice cloning stuff. People don't realize that. Again,
AI playing a role in this type of scam is increasing.
I think you and I may have talked about in
the past. The Ferrari cfo CEO voice cloning. I want
to be really clear to people. Again, I know some
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of this stuff sounds far fetched. Anyone listening to you
today can go online into a search, find a site
that will allow you to clone a voice for free.
Now how good will it be? That depends on the site,
and it depends on how good the training is on it.
And when people say, well, how would you get my
voice to steal my voice if I call your phone,
do you have a voicemail greeting? Because if you do,
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I can record that, feed that into one of these
voice cloning models, and in less than an hour, I
can sit out a computer type what I want to
say and it will play it in your voice. Yep,
I've done this personally. I know it's real, so this
isn't speculation. I have tested this myself.
Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
That's why you need to have a pre established safe
word that only you and your loved ones know.
Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
That is exactly right, because it's other than awareness that
anytime you get a phone, so it's not just email
you have to be on the lookout for. And now
all the old school tells are gone, you know, because
they'll use AI to generate that email. You're grammatically correct now,
as opposed to before you Yes, grammatically correct makes sense.
Be like it's written in it by a native English
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speaking person, so you know, whether it's email or text.
That's that's off the table because they can easily fake
that stuff now. But again, you can easily clone someone's voice.
It's trivial to do so when your grandson calls or
your boss calls, uh, and you know obviously they're going
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to be more like to pull off the scam. If
they're leaving a message or something with instructions. You know
it's going to be harder if they're having a real
time conversation with you. And one of the tells in
that case would be to look for there's a weird
pause in your conversations right right, because they're literally typing
in what they need the response to be. So if
you say something and there's an odd pause in between
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every response, that could be an indication that you're being scammed.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
But you know, an emergency call where they're asking for money, yes, period.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
If you get any kind of call asking for money,
especially if it's in any sort of unusual payment, you
need to take cash somewhere. You need to buy gift cards,
you need to send venmo. The sheriff's office is not
going to let your grandson out of jail because you
sent gift cards, right. I mean, so much of this,
Brian is always stop, take a breask, think about what
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you're being asked to do. Is it unusual, is it urgent?
Is their money involved? If it involves any of those
three things, and especially all of those three things, ninety
nine percent likelihoods are getting scanned.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Right, So don't go down that road and get a
safe word established ahead of time. Just pick some random
word like I don't know, domino or something and say,
wait a minute, I'm not sure this is really my grandson.
What is our safe word? And the articles intelligence couldn't
possibly know that, soh boom, you're done. You're hanging the
phone up and you move on with your day.
Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Yeah, but they just say say. In this article, we're
referencing the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint and Internet Crime Complaints
Center report, which is very insightful. By the way, I
encourage people to go check down and see what the
FBI is seeing. So it's not speculation of what might
happen by people like me, it's actual crimes that have
been reported elder fraud losses hit four point eight eight
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billion in twenty twenty four, is staggering forty three percent
jump from the previous year. The average senior victim lost
over eighty three thousand dollars week. Yeah, so you should.
You should warn your elderly parents and your elderly friend.
You should give them the advice we just gave here.
You know, Microsoft is not waiting around to find a
virus on your personal computer and call you up and
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say you have a virus. Google is not going to
call you and tell you the email you just received
is fraudulent and you need to change your account. Yeah right,
So again, stop and think about what you're being asked
to do. Be skeptical, and then, to your point, have
a safer to at least think of a question that
only the person you're supposedly talking to would know the answer.
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understand you were married thirty two years yesterday. What a
wonderful milestone. You're never going to catch up with me
thirty three this year.
Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Well, it's amazing I've lasted this long because if you
knew what my Saint of a wife has put up with. Yeah,
you have cover how I made it for thirty two years?
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Smart men, Mary, smart, you've done that. And congratulations, very lucky. Yeah, yeah,
I know, I know, all right. How is it artificial
intelligence is eroding a doctor's ability to make a cancer diagnosis?
I would think they could only help.
Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Uh, you would think. And you know, there's been a
lot of talk and a lot of hyperbole out there
about this and how these tools are you know, going
to eliminate doctors and such, and you know, I'm not
sure I entirely buy this story, Brian. You know, you
may have seen the stat and I don't have any
front of me. I may be a little off, but
(01:11:23):
something like fifty percent of all studies can't be can't
be duplicated and reproduced in a way that meets the
scientific methods. So I don't know. I get the premise
of this. Apparently, in Poland they did a study over
a short period of time of some doctors, and they
were randomly assigning colonoscopy reviews to doctors, and in some
(01:11:44):
cases they used AI and in some cases they didn't
as part of the control mechanism of the study, and
they found again, this is a relatively small study over
a relatively small period of time that doctors who used
AI and then stop using it got twenty percent worse
at being able to diagnose the answer as the colonoscopy.
You know, the idea that, yeah, I could see where
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there could be some validity to this, but it's a
little bit hard for me to believe it would have
that much of an impact. I don't know, maybe, but
the idea that once people start using these tools and
if the tools generally produce good content, Remember hallucination, I
mentioned this before. You know, these things will be wrong
and just make stuff up and insist there right, even
though they're clearly wrong, or have just completely confabulated something
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you know, out of the out of the clear blue sky.
But you know, if you get good results and you
start to trust a thing and then you know it's
taken away from you, you've sort of dumbed yourself down,
you've sort of stopped thinking, started to use these things
as a crutch. So and you know, there has been
discussion around this in other fields that you know, students
who use these things stop thinking. Writers who leverage these things,
(01:12:57):
you know, don't really think anymore. And again I want
to be clear, Brian, I'm not absolutely against this stuff.
There is value in it. I use these things myself,
but I understand what the limitations are. I know when
it makes sense to use it and when it doesn't
make sense to use it for the most part, and
I don't just rely on it entirely to do every
single thing that I do. Right, So again, I'm not
(01:13:20):
saying AI doesn't have value, can't be used, it won't
make sense for your organization in key places, but I
think it's interesting. You know, if you continue to see
studies producing these kind of results, I'm not really sure
what that says about, you know, society in the future.
And I'm sure you've seen the movie Idiocracy. Oh yeah,
you know. Sadly I thought that was but increasingly it
(01:13:44):
seems to be a prophecy. And for folks who haven't
seen Idiocracy, I encourage them to go watch it. You know,
are we headed there? And is the Is it being
accelerated by people leveraging these tools and using them as
in a crutch and turning off their brains, and then
you know, when they have to rely on them again,
suddenly they can't. I don't know I mean, you know,
let's face it, doctors are generally pretty smart people. They've
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got years of training and study. Could you have a
twenty percent degradation in your capability after a short period
of time using AI. I personally find that a little
hard to believe. But maybe it's certainly an interesting thing
to look into, and it's something if it proves out
over time I would be concerned about as a society
because something no one really talks about much, you know,
(01:14:29):
electromagnetic pulse. I know you and I have talked about
it before. This is a big concern of mine as
we get increasingly reliant on technology, you know, someday, whether
it's a low grade nuclear weapon set off by a terrorist,
which I know sounds far fetched to people, or it's
just a giant solar storm. You know, our devices are
not hardened against a strong electromagnetic pulse. There's you know,
(01:14:52):
I think it was eighteen twelve sometime there was a
time that's probably too far back, there was a time
and a time of telegraphs where there was a giant
solar storm and like it's set telegraph wires on fire
and stuff. Imagine, and our incredibly digital, incredibly technological connected
society that we all rely on. If you had a
(01:15:14):
giant solar storm that knocked all that out, it'd be
a real problem.
Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Again, I don't a societally ending problem.
Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
It's a potentially existential problem. And if none of us
can even think anymore and know how to repair these
things because we need AI to do it, well that's
a problem. So I think this is a story that
bears watching. It'll be interesting to see if other studies
play this ound, and then people can decide for themselves
how much they want to leverage these tools. Again, they
have value, want to be clear, they have value when
(01:15:44):
you understand. But you know, if all we do is
use these tools, I think we're setting ourselves up for
a huge problem at some future point if and when
that solar storm hits, because we'll be like idiocracy.
Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I agree completely. Yeah, yeah, walk through do the math
on that. If all the electricity were to shut down completely,
it is horrific reality that will unfold. Dave Atter interest
it dot com Business Career says they are the best
in the business, and I believe the business career appreciate
you coming on the program every Friday, who talk about
these issues and quick film. The need to be apologetic
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and you can hang your hat on that, Dave. Happy
university to you in your better half and have a
wonderful weekend. I'll look forward to next Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Always my pleasure, Brian, and you know I do appreciate
the opportunity to educate. Hopefully we're doing some good out there.
Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
I can only imagine if you've got one person a
listening audience that keeps themselves out of harm's way, you've
done some good. Thanks again, Dave. We'll have you on
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And he's been hard at work spreading his powerful message
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I met the young man who played Rick Green in
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So we're going to bring that to you here on
the fifty five kres Morning Show, Positivity on a Friday
followed by something. Obviously, it's positive to have Sarah Herringer
in the studio to help her spread her message. Of course,
what brings her to the studio is the ultimate tragedy.
We got a crime in downtown over the Rhine where
she and her husband, her late husband Patrick lived at
the door kicked in by a guy who was out
(01:18:39):
on parole. He may know the story. Mordecai Black cut
off his ankle monitor months in advance of murdering her husband.
Should be in the studio at eight point five to
talk about the what she's been fighting for. And I
love the fact that at least this terrible, terrible tragedy
has resulted in awareness, a great awareness from about for
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us that those ankle monitors just really don't do anything
YE call her early in the program pointed out it
creates the perception of safety while not providing the reality
of safety. And she, in her most recent pronouncement, an
open letter to I guess the Powers that Be, talked
about her husband's attacker, murderer, Mordecai Black, but as well
(01:19:21):
as Brian Goldsby and Johnny Grimes, both of whom had
ankle monitors and went out and committed committed crimes. Now,
as far as Brian Goldsby's concerned they had his GPS
trail after he kidnapped, raped, and murdered Reagan toaks, Oh
there he is, Yeah, look where he went, Look where
he's walking. Showed his every move, but it was reviewed
(01:19:43):
after she was dead. She cites to Johnny Grimes cut
his ankle monitor in April, vanished June seventh, shot and
killed Lauren Schuler. It remained at large because she said,
the system isn't built, the tech them when it matters
three murders, three different circumstances, common denominators, she says, a
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monitoring system that either isn't being watched or isn't even on.
And what irks me most about this and I hate
to just sort of labor the point, but it's worth laboring.
Ohio had the chance to fix this, as she writes,
and as we learned, Thank you to her advocacy. Back
in twenty twenty two, the House passed ninety one or
ninety two to one, a law that gave law enforcement
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GPS access and instant alerts. It went over to the Senate,
where it died in the Senate Judiciary Committee without a
single vote. Since Joe encouraged me to read the Senate
committee's names. I will do that again now, Nathan H.
Manning R. Republican Chair, Michelle Reynolds Vice Chair, Republican, Lewis Blessing, Republican,
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Al Kutrona Republican, Teresa Gavarni Republican, and two Democrats, Paula
Hicks Hudson and Kent Smith. That's the committee that let
it die. Why didn't we pass it? Some suggests, and
she's suggests perhaps is because maybe some people think it
costs too much, But obviously it turns back to her
own life. Look me in the eye and tell me
the cost I paid wasn't worth guarding with your vote
(01:21:11):
and you and your life. So will be Patrick he
Herringer Act pass this fall? And did it take the
murder of Patrick Herringer to bring about some hopefully positive
change in the ankle monitoring system. We've got the technology,
we have the ability, we have the system in place already.
(01:21:32):
We just need able bodied folks to actually pay attention
to where these monitors are at any given moment in time.
And you think, in a world coming off the heels
of tech Friday's Dave Hatter, in a world with artificial intelligence,
how difficult would it be to program artificial intelligence to
well let you know when people have moved out of
the region where they're allowed to be with their ankle
monitors on. Huh, yeah, I think we might be able
(01:21:53):
to accomplish that. Sarah Herringer on in the eight o'clock hour,
looking forward to Heaven or back on some interesting developments locally.
I view this as a very positive thing, and I
don't know how you feel about it, but Liz Keating
has decided she's going to run for council again. Republican
Liz Keating, I think she did a very good job.
She provided a different message. She of course very civil
(01:22:17):
in her discussions with her Democrat council members. I represented
the Republican Party and Republican interests and ideals pretty adequately.
She's now decided she's going to run again, and maybe
she senses an opportunity here. Would you spend a lot
of time between now in November running a campaign, trying
to get signs outspread and T shirts showing up a
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town hall meetings, do whatever council people do when they
run for office, all that time, energy and effort, knowing
full well that the dak is deck deck is deck
against you because it is the city of Cincinnati. But
with Corey Bowman running with the problems the mayor is facing,
with the problems councils facing with the well the insult
to the residents of Hyde Park and Bond Hill and
(01:23:00):
other neighborhoods who maybe didn't want connecting communities in their neighborhood,
only to have it shoved down their throat, not representing
the will of the people. Perhaps that's opportunity for a
different party or just different people. We got Steve good
and running. Steve did a great job while he was
on Charter candidate Charter right, no r no, d oh.
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Look here, he is an outlier good government policy or
good government party. Smart, yes, capable, knows the job. Of
course he was there before. He can do it again.
He's going to hit the ground running. Great opportunity Corey Bowman.
Of course, I don't know how he's doing in terms
of polling. I don't know if there's any polling in
the City of Cincinnati reflect Court where Corey is. But
(01:23:40):
he's getting a lot of traction, He's getting a lot
of media attention, and of course they have to have
provoll's been parked into a backed into a corner following
most notably recently the July beatdown his affiliation at connection
with the very controversial Iris Rawley and as the IRIS.
By the way, since police dot Com and ninety eight
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people of siding with the Cincinni Police Department calling for
her contract to be terminated, it's not too late to
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since he with the y Sincypolice dot Com, get on
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good job, Liz Keating. I wish you all the best,
and I really do truly hope that I'm right in
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the sense that she's made this decision because she believe
it is possible to do. Yesterday, in court, Chief Assistant
Hamlin County Prosecutor KiB Gweenan pointed out that this violent attack,
which has drawn national attention, started by two men who
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told some of the victims before his words stomping them
WWE wrestling style, that they were at the wrong party
and to get off the street. He insisted the man
seen in the viral of is slapping one of the
other suspects just before the beatdowns began. Did it after
someone was already beaten? He said. He also revealed that
(01:25:08):
no one quote, no one close quote has seen all
the videos of the attack except him and the police investigators.
More to come, he pointed out, there are two videos
from stationary cameras that have not yet been released. The
judge presiding over the matter not the assigned judge, but
apparently the judge that was assigned had to be covered
for anyway, it was. Judge Allen Triggs said he'd hope
(01:25:31):
the video would have been ready to present to the
court yesterday. The assistant Hamlin County Prosecutor said his office
was working on a compilation of videos to turn over
the defense. Defense attorney for Jamie or Jermaine Matthews told
the judge his client was slapped by a white man
who has not been charged. Countering that not true, the
(01:25:51):
prosecutor said Matthews was the man that started it, and
of course if you watch that video, that Matthews guys
the one that punched the quote unquote rushing guy, the
white guy with a white T shirt, before he then
counter slapped him later a few month minutes later, a
moment or two later, defense attorney Clyde Bennett, the second,
representing Dekaira Vernon who's twenty four, argued that her two
(01:26:16):
hundred thousand dollars bond should be lowered, telling the judge
that she had no criminal record in her case was weak.
He alleged it was unconstitutional and only to set high
bond due to the politics and race involved in the case.
Gohin And told the judge for Bennett to say the
case was driven by race and politics was offensive and
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beyond the pale. Now they're arguing about the size of
the bond. Did race and politics play and have anything
to do with setting a bond at two hundred thousand dollars, Well,
you can make an argument, how often do you see
a bond that high in Hamilton County? Like never? Anyway,
the judge bought into the argument reduced the bond to
twenty five thousand dollars ten percent, which means twenty five
hundred dollars got her out of jail. Should beyond an
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electronic monitoring device though, and it's funny the reporting and
props to Jennifer Baker over at Fox nineteen. The judge
Warren Clyde Bennett that if his client tampered with her
ankle monitor in any way, he would revoke her bond
at once and she'd be locked up in jail until
her case goes to trial. Well, I just have to
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ask out loud on behalf of Sarah Herringer, who's going
to be monitoring the ankle bracelet to find out whether
she tampers with it or not. Anyhow, some of the
other bonds were lowered. One of the more violent folks,
one of the ones that also got nailed with a
gun chun gun charge a felony case, Merriwether. His bond
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total bond stands at nine hundred thousand dollars. So developments, Yes,
more information coming out, Yes, more video evidence coming out.
Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
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violence in the system and Donald Trump going after Thomas Massey.
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likely Republican voters from Massey's congressional district. Poll margin and
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vera four point four percentage points shows Massey's favorability rating
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percent less likely to vote for Massey based on what
they have seen read or heard. They also pointed out
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likely to vote for a candidate who is endorsed and
supported by Trump, which Massey no longer is. Although Massey
did endorse Trump last year, but also won the GOP
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primary with seventy five point nine percent of the vote.
They had two challengers in that one. He won the
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Massy last month said of the Trump threats to bro
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millions of dollars will be wasted against them, costing the
Republicans control of the House. Perhaps we'll see. I just
wonder if my friends in the Commonwealth who are in
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Massey's district have any faith in the McLaughlin Associates polling
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Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
It's seven point thirty two here at fifty five carsit
talk station. Time for a positive message. Then welcome back
to the fifty five Karosey Morning Show, Rick Green, which
you can find online. It's severit worksministries dot com. And
director Savant, who's back in studio. He's been in a
couple of times because Savant made the movie about Rick
Green's life. Rick Savant, welcome back to the morning show.
Good to have you guys in the studio.
Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Nice, good morning, and thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Well, it's awesome to have you in here because again,
I know you want to talk about the positive message
you have, Rick, but Lord knows we can use an
injection of positivity and uplifting comments and maybe moving people
in a more positive direction because man, it's a heavy,
heavy world we got out.
Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
There, Yeah it is. But we serve a mighty God.
Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Yeah we do, and a God that transformed your life.
And this story is truly amazing. Now, Rick, you have
to go through it again because some of the listeners
are listening right now might not be familiar with your
your your your story and the transformative moment in time
that took you out of drugs and crime and put
you on a straight and narrow path that has led
you to retirement.
Speaker 11 (01:37:03):
You said you're getting ready to retire, man, Yeah, December first,
it's a rat. Rick is tired.
Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Rick is tired. Forty plus years of hard labor. Man,
that's enough time to put in his system. Good job, Rick,
congratulations on your upcoming retirement. Now, remember how far back
are we going? When you had this, you were touched
by the hand of God, if I could even put
it that way.
Speaker 11 (01:37:23):
Actually, I'll never forget today. It was June fifteenth, nineteen
ninety eight. That was the day that I pulled all
my coke down the tilet I pulled my beer down
the toilet, I broke my cigarettes, and I had got
to cleanse my tongue. And I've been cusstance nineteen ninety eight.
The guy in the mirror, I divorced him. I didn't
(01:37:43):
like him no more because he wasn't doing anything positive
to Rick. He didn't offer anything positive to the world.
I just didn't like him no more.
Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
You looked in the mirror and saw man. He was
hooked on drugs, alcohol and a criminal.
Speaker 11 (01:37:57):
I didn't want to be him, and it just time's
first time I saw him, really saw him.
Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Did you consciously take an effort to go through that
process of evaluating your life or did it just a
light flip on a switch flipped on?
Speaker 11 (01:38:12):
Now you know, I'd always pray to God to help me,
but something on June fifteenth. That day, I personal believe
I meant the words of a praying before they would
just I think I was just trying to please God
by saying words, and you can't fool God that I
meant it.
Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
See that point right there is why I think prayer
is beneficial to everyone, because when I reflect what I
don't pray every night. I guess I probably should, but
I have this belief that I am speaking with a truly,
all knowing entity. So you can't lie to God. You
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might be able to pull a wool over your mom's eyes,
or your dad's eyes, or your best friend, your wife,
your husband, but you know, if you believe truly that
you're speaking with someone who can see through all the crap,
you can't get away with paying lip service to the
idea of transformation. You got to put your money where
your mouth is and do it.
Speaker 11 (01:39:13):
You're right, that's why God don't listen to the words
and around mouth. He listened to the words, not heart.
Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Right, We're going to get to your message and what
your your your ministry is all about. And a big
news on the movie that you have made that was
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Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
It's seven thirty nine here if at five KR City
Talk Station in studio from Spirit Worksmistries dot com Man.
He's been in our studio quite a few times over
the years. Real Inspiration. He is Rick Green along with
director Savant, who directed a movie about Rick Green's life.
Now you go back to June fifteenth, nineteen ninety eight,
the day that Rick experiences moment of clarity. We were
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talking off on the break there and he said, you
know what he said, just this dunaman. You know I
threw away my cocaine. That's how serious I was at
the time. It's like I looked at him and said,
you know, that really does speak volumes about that moment
in time. From what I understand, people who are addicted
to cocaine, that's not something you be inclined to do.
(01:42:02):
First off, it's worth money, right, So he threw something
that had like a market value on the street because
you could have sold it to somebody.
Speaker 11 (01:42:10):
I didn't know you copay it on there, but it
wasn't worth my phone right.
Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Well, see proof of this transformation you went through in
a moment's time, because I'm sure the Rick Green from
June fourteenth, nineteen ninety eight wouldn't have thrown it away.
He probably would have used it, or you maybe have
taken better financial event to yourself and sold that to
somebody else that he has it was addicted to cocaine anyway.
(01:42:37):
So how savant did you find out about Rick's story
and decide that you were going to get involved with
making a movie about his life?
Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (01:42:46):
I had, Well, Rick sent me a text, but you know,
I'll get text from people all the time. I know
everybody's ideas before they come out. But Rick sent me
a text, and he was just kind of adamant about meeting.
Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
He met my cousin.
Speaker 11 (01:42:59):
He came me through my cousin and he text me
one day and I was like, okay, let's set something up.
And then that day got close and Rick text me
again and I met him at a Pianera bread and
just to hear him talk about his life and how
passionate he was I'm just like Rick, I'm in you
know so, and it just kind of developed that way.
Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
That's a great I mean, he is he's a life
transformer right there, that guy. Oh yeah, I mean his
message comes through lot and clear, and he's just so
convincing of this path that I'm sure you've eve inceduenced
low lives of so many people with your message.
Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
Man.
Speaker 11 (01:43:35):
You know, I hope I do, because I always wonder God,
am I helping people? I'm just trying to be obedient,
but my whole is that I'm helping people.
Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Right Well, you continue to do that. You're still giving
out sandwiches on the weekend to folks.
Speaker 11 (01:43:49):
And Saturday every Saturday is God we o were like
thirteen thousand bags.
Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Now that's great. And you also saved the man's life.
You gave a total stranger a kidney.
Speaker 11 (01:44:00):
I told people that's hard to accept because I think
God saved the life.
Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
You use me, Well, you're the one that donated the kidney. Man, Yes,
you got the inspiration from God, but you know you're
the one that pulled through with it. It's like throwing
the cocaine down the toilet. It's like saying I'm taking
my life back. I'm giving up the old ways. I'm
transforming my life. I'm gonna save a life.
Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
Right.
Speaker 11 (01:44:19):
I don't believe I own this. I believe this is
just rented to me to walk through earth. I believe
this is all God my body.
Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Okay. So to all the people out there that constantly
focus on negative, negative, negative, woe is me? Woe is me?
What do you say to them?
Speaker 11 (01:44:34):
I will say, spend some time with God and read
this word and you'll find out life isn't as bad
as you believe it is. I believe this thing right
here on mind makes it worse than it really is.
I believe it's where you choose to focus at If
you focus on negativity constantly, and that's what the universe
is gonna give you. It's all a circle. Whatever you
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focus on coming back to you. Why don't you try
and focus on loving people, focus on positivity, focus on
being a better as human being, focus on doing something
good that's not about you all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
And what does that do for you?
Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Then?
Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Doesn't it make you feel good?
Speaker 11 (01:45:13):
It brings our positive energy back to you, and you'll
do it more. I believe so much of where you
choose to focus at.
Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Yeah, I think that's a really important thing to say.
That's why I asked you the question, Rick Savann, how
long did it take you to make the movie?
Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
We took about a year. It took about a year. Yeah,
we took about a year.
Speaker 11 (01:45:32):
We started in a fall, so it wasn't the greatest
start time because eventually it gets cold and it snows,
and we shot a few scenes indoors when it was
snowing that you know, well, weather didn't matter. But it
took about a year and and it but it came
together and we're glad we got it done.
Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
And my understanding it's been picked up by streaming services.
So where can my listeners, you know, check this movie out?
Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
Fun?
Speaker 11 (01:45:54):
Yes, we should be available streaming on to be September first.
Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
To be September first. Yeah, is there a place right
now where people can see it?
Speaker 11 (01:46:02):
No, it's not yet released, and actually we even got
it on more services. We haven't got the name and
dates yet, but we are confirmed on the first of
September for two to.
Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Be first of September, And I'll tell you what you
remind Joe, and we'll put a link on my blog page.
Fift if I've care sey dot Com to link up
to the TV link. Once it's up there, and everytime
you get more streaming services, we'll add it up there.
When you watch that movie, Rick, did you see yourself
in that young man who played you? I mean, is
it like watching yourself when you were younger? Or is
(01:46:33):
it just sort of like a version of it. It's close,
but I don't see me.
Speaker 7 (01:46:36):
You know.
Speaker 11 (01:46:37):
I look at it and I don't look at it
because they bring up feelings I used to have.
Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
About my mother. I don't like thinking about.
Speaker 11 (01:46:42):
Oh yeah, because I love her, I forgave her, but
it brings up whole feelings. I kind of peek at
it in our leading room. But that's what I wanted.
I wanted to be real. I wanted to be wrong.
But I also want people to know you can stumble,
fall and fail at life. You can also get back up.
Yes you can't. It's a choice. Stop blaming everybody for
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your life. It's yours. It says right there, your life.
Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Powerful words, Rick Green. We'll bring them both back. Rick
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Seven fifty here fifty five ker Ce talk Station, Happy Friday.
Sarah Herringer returns to the studio at the top of
the our news. Sarah, of course, widow of Patrick Herringer,
stabbed to death and over the ruin in their apartment,
had her on before and she is demanding changes, including
the Patrick Herringer Law, which will require the authorities to
actually monitor folks out on ankle bracelets. Maybe folks like
(01:49:45):
our crime stopper Bad Guy the Week will return with
Grick Green and Savant right after we talked to Officer
Green since a police department crime stopper Bad Guy of
the Week. Welcome back. It's a pleasure to have you
on the program. Who are we looking for today?
Speaker 12 (01:49:59):
The Butler County Par's Office is looking for Brandon Kloonan.
Mister Kluonan is wanted for a felony parole violation as
failure to register. Brandon Kloonan was originally charged with the
rate of a fifteen year old female. Yeah, Brandon Kluhan
is a me White. He's thirty eight years old. He's
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five three and one hundred and forty pounds. Brandon Cloonan
has a history of domestic violence and resisting arrests, resisting
arrest and minacing, and was last known to live in Middletown, Ohio.
If anyone has information on where police can find Brandon Kloonen,
please call Crime Stoppers at five one three three five
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two thirty forty or submitted tip online at Prime Desk
Stoppers dot us.
Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
Stevid Green would tell you, and I'll tell you myself.
You'll remain anonymous. Your tip will be eligib make you
eligible for a cash reward if for leads and arrest,
you be doing the Cincinnati area a service by getting
this pervert off the street. His pictures posted on my
blog page Tiffany Green, Officer Green Think, thank you for
the work that you do throughout the week. Love this
INSI Police Department and we here on the Morning Show
are supportive of what you do each and every day.
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Returning Rick Green and Studio along with a film director
Savant talking about Spirit Works Ministries dot com and the
story of Rick Green's life, which you'll be able to
find streaming online beginning September first. Uh, and we'll post
that link on my blog page fifty five Casey dot com. Rick,
you just made an interesting comment and on the heels
of this beatdown which happened over a couple of weeks ago.
Everybody knows about it.
Speaker 9 (01:51:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
And of course what happened to Sarah Heringer. You got
held up quite a few years back, and you made
a decision you were never going back down again downtown again.
Speaker 11 (01:51:36):
Nah, don't do downtown at night. That was the first
time I ever had a gun put to my head.
I'm young. I had seven dollars and I talked to God.
I said, God, not like this. I thought he was
joking at first, and then he racked the slide. This
is real. I said, God, not like this. And when
(01:51:58):
I said it, he took my wine and he ran, woh.
Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Never.
Speaker 5 (01:52:01):
It's something about that night.
Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Well, considering your positive message, I mean, if you could
say something to those people who were inclined to just
go all just completely.
Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
I want to describe it as like animalistic behavior. I mean, yeah,
it's one thing to get into a scrap with somebody else.
That happens all the time. Maybe two people get into
a fistfight. Should it happen? No, but that happens all
the time. But for the entire group of people to
come completely unhinged and launch such an just absolutely violent,
violent attack another human being, and then to colecock and
(01:52:38):
sucker punch a poor woman right in the face she
was doing nothing. I mean, where do you think that
comes from?
Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Rick?
Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
And you know, what would you say to those folks
if you hadn't piled up into a room together.
Speaker 11 (01:52:47):
I think it's individual choices. I don't want people to
make a blanket answer on nobody down there. Those the
individual choices. Some people were raised wrong, some people just
like violence. I don't think there is one answer. But
you know, every individual to me, got an answer for theirself,
and I think we should look at it like that. Yeah,
(01:53:10):
you know, it's horrible. I just don't think people should
hurt people. No, it's wrong, right with the exception not
defending yourself, but just to hurt people, it's wrong. God,
don't like it. I don't like it. I don't think
none of us like it.
Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
Yeah, and even if you can see that we have,
you know, a maybe a society that has built in problems.
If you are of the mind to believe that we are,
you know, a systemically racist society. Can you use that
as a justification to punch a woman in the face.
Speaker 5 (01:53:45):
No, you can never justify evil.
Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
You can never justify evil.
Speaker 11 (01:53:49):
No, No, because self defense isn't evil. Those are two
different things. I'm trying to get you off of me.
That's different. It is evil is hurting someone into I
don't know, maybe you'd like to do it. I don't
know why you do it in no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Well, we'll have to contemplate that message exactly.
Speaker 5 (01:54:10):
We got to share the plan with a lot of
people that think like that.
Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Well, they're Green. That's why you're out here, man. You're
saving lives, you're helping people eat, you are doing the
work of God. You continue to spread the message of positivity.
I don't see any downside of this, Rick Green, and
I encourage you to continue to do what you're doing.
I know you're retiring from your day job, that's fine,
but you have your community work that you'll continue to do.
In your retirement. It'll I'm sure it'll provide you a
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lot of enrichment and you will continue to change the
minds of people throughout this area. And it's a beautiful thing. Man.
We need an inspiration like you out there, and I'm
glad to have you on the program. And Savann, thank
you so much for your time and coming down here
today and doing the movie about Rick Green's life. And
I know everyone's going to enjoy it once it's streaming
out there. Oh, definitely, thanks for having us our pleasure. Absolutely,
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you're always welcome here. Seven to fifty five. Sarah Herringer
going to be in the studio coming up after the
top of the URW. We'll hear from her and whether
she's made any progress in her efforts. Don't go away.
He'll be called the Twelve Day War. I suppose that's
what we were nicknaming it already. Another update at the
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was swissing everyone a happy Friday, and I hope you
have some great plans going on this week. A bit
of a sommer note. Bring Sarah Herringer, a bit Sarah
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Herringer back into the studio. And I'm sure everybody in
my listening audience is familiar with the name. She is
a widow thanks to a guy named Mordecai Black who
cut off his ankle monitor. He was out on parole.
He was out wandering about for months, no indication that
law enforcement had any idea at all that he had
cut off his ankle monitor, and he broke into their home,
Patrick and Sarah Herringer's home and over the rhine where
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they have had a business, and stabbed Patrick Herringer to
death right in front of his wife Sarah, and Patrick
died saving his wife's life. Sarah Heringer, the widow, is
in studio to talk about what she's trying to do,
and that's bring around some sanity here in the state
of Ohio, like real time monitoring of ankle monitors. Sarah,
it's good to have you back in the studio.
Speaker 13 (01:56:21):
Thanks, it's good to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
I wish you didn't have to be famous for the
reasons you are famous now, but I'm glad to see
that you're spreading the word and knowledge and information is
really powerful. I had a caller earlier in the program
who suggested, you know, ah, we have these ankle monitor
programs because it just all makes us feel like something's
being done. Well, he's got an ankle monitor, and naturally
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the authorities are monitoring it, and he's defined. He's confined
to a certain place, like the confines of his home
and maybe the place where he works, that's all. And
if he goes out of those areas, some alarm are
going to go off somewhere. Law enforcement's going to be notified,
and they're going to go after him and try to
pick him up. That makes sense, and that's what we
are led to believe. This is how the system works works,
is it not?
Speaker 13 (01:57:01):
Absolutely?
Speaker 14 (01:57:01):
I mean, I am one of the people who found
out that ankle monitors do not monitor in real time,
and that currently when you disable one, it also doesn't
trigger any kind of alarm.
Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
That in and of itself is hard to believe.
Speaker 14 (01:57:16):
Yes, as soon as I found out, I likened it
to Jurassic Park when the fences go off, and I
was like, okay, and the I mean the thing is is,
obviously we do not know that. The people who put
ankle monitors on know that. And the unfortunate thing is
all of the criminals, the felons wearing the ankle monitors
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are the ones who know that they don't work in
track in real time.
Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
So you anticipated my next question, is this word gotten
out already?
Speaker 14 (01:57:45):
Oh yeah, I mean everyone knows that. I mean, they
all know that. And it's another example of where optics
over true outcomes. It's like, what's the entire what's the purpose?
Why would you put an ankle monitor on to begin with?
If it's that ineffective?
Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
Well exactly, and you know, I considering your case and
what we all now are aware of, thanks to you
to bringing this to everybody's attention, they're not monitoring them,
and the powers that be are aware that that's knowing
not going on. One of the defendants in that July
beatdown was in front of a judge yesterday and told
that she had to be where she had to wear
an ankle monitor. He lowered her bond from two hundred
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thousand dollars down to twenty five thousand dollars to ten
percent twenty five hundred dollars bond, but she has to
wear an electronic monitoring device, and Fox nineteen reported that
the judge warned her attorney that if she tampered with
her ankle monitor in any way, she would provoke her
bond and she'd be locked up in general till the
case went to trial. Well, that's fine, that's all well
and good, But the judge also knows that tampering with
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an ankle monitor or removing it is not going to
result in alarm going off.
Speaker 14 (01:58:51):
Correct, So it's just a threat that they put out
there in order to do their due diligence. Hey, there
are consequences if you do that, but there has to
be The thing has to be effective in order for
it to work.
Speaker 13 (01:59:04):
Outside.
Speaker 14 (01:59:05):
I mean, at this point, we already know that these
are people who don't follow the law and don't do
what they're told.
Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Yes, yes, demonstrably so the sad thing. And I've expressed
outright anger over finding this out again as a consequence
of your work since learned that. Back in twenty twenty two,
the Ohio House passed by a ninety two to one vote,
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a requirement that real time monitoring of ankle bracelets. Yes,
it was passed. No, I mean bipartisanship doesn't exist anymore
in here. You have something that almost one hundred percent
passed and it went over to the Senate committee and
it died there.
Speaker 14 (01:59:46):
Yes, yeah, we uh Cindy Abrams, she's looking into that
because it's why did it die there, you know, and
asking the individuals that are named and listed, what was
the point of that? But it's it is it's enraging
to find out that there is an entire group of
lawmakers that have all decided. And this entire thing came
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about because of the Reagan Tolks case, which I don't
know if you're familiar.
Speaker 13 (02:00:12):
With, well you wrote about it, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
Brian's Goldsby wars ankle monitor the night he kidnapped, raped,
and murdered Reagan Toaks. This isn't from Sarnga's online letters.
She wrote about this. He didn't need to cut it off.
He knew no one was watching in real time. His
GPS trail showed every move, but that was only reviewed
after she was shot dead after being raped and kidnapped. Absolutely,
they have it right there, it's right there.
Speaker 14 (02:00:38):
Yeah, and her mother did so much work to get
the bill to or the act, you know, to that
point where it passes, the governor signs off on it,
it goes to the Senate committee and they just outright
said no, uh, and then it doesn't go you know,
to a larger vote in order to be passed into law.
(02:00:58):
And I tell me why that would make sense on
you know what level? There's money available.
Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
Well, there's money available, and there are literally lives at
stake here. I mean, you cited several different other illustrations
beyond your own personal experience and losing your husband because
of this, that it's happened before, and it may have
happened a whole bunch more than you even are aware of.
Speaker 14 (02:01:19):
Yeah, that is one thing I've been looking into, and
it's actually it's it's very hard to find information of
how many people have had ankle monitors on and committed crimes,
or they've popped them, you know, they've disabled them or
removed them in some way, and they've created they've reoffended.
(02:01:40):
That's information that I haven't really been able to get
a hold of yet. I think that would be really
great job for the media and investigative journalism to maybe
to start building this case and showing people right there
as the information comes out. It's it's all things that
we don't know, but we absolutely should so we can
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get behind something and make a change.
Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Well, a change benefits literally everyone, yes, anybody and lives.
Speaker 13 (02:02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
Yeah, again, going back to your very profound point, it's
almost like stating the obvious, but it's worthy were repeating.
These people have already demonstrated they will not follow the law.
They have committed crimes which have brought them to prison
resulting in probation and ankle monitoring or placed on bond
for having committed a heinous crime. Have to be held accountable.
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They've demonstrated that they don't care.
Speaker 14 (02:02:32):
Right, Yes, I think another thing to look at too
is how many of them reoffend or continue to break parole.
When it comes to Mordecai Black, he'd spent nineteen of
his last twenty years incarcerated, and that was because every
time he was out, he reoffended, oftentimes breaking the parole
that he was on. And that's also information that we
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really should be taking into account, that judges should absolutely
be taking into account is how many times is this
person offended?
Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
Without question? Yeah, and if they've demonstrated a willingness to
violate parole, then maybe you don't let them out right, Yes,
that's the justice system.
Speaker 14 (02:03:11):
If you can't play nice, Yeah, then you can all
go play with each other in a place called prison.
Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Phrasing. I do like that, Sarah. Thank you for that
little bit of levity, at least as I interpreted it. Yes,
all right, so we will go ahead and name names,
considering we have the list of senators on the Senate
Judiciary Committee who let this thing die. Chairman Nathan H. Manning, Republican, Republican,
Michelle Reynolds, Vice Chair Louis Blessing, Republican, Republican, Al Katrona Republican,
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Teresa Gavroni, Democrats Paula Hicks Hudson, and Democrat Ken Smith.
So you had a bipartisan group of folks who let
this thing die. It's not going to happen again.
Speaker 14 (02:03:55):
No, I cannot imagine it will. I'll be working with
Cindy Abrams and plan on addressing the Senate myself and
have them look me in the eye and tell me
that it is not worth passing.
Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
I love that. And what we were talking about is
the Patrick Herringer Act, which will require every month to
be real time monitored. And that's going to be addressed,
I guess in the fall session, and we will definitely
see that it gets passed. I know my morning show
listener will be more than happy to contact their elected
officials to make it happen and not let it die
in the Senate. Let me ask out loud. But as
we'll move into a break, perhaps this has something to
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do with money. Do we have enough money to do this?
Do we know what it's going to cost to hire
people to follow it? I think it's a worthy expenditure,
considering all of our lives are, at least theoretically at stake.
Here ask Sarah, it's a fifteen right now that if
I have k see the talk station, we'll be right.
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Ministries on the program earlier, talking about the movie that
was made about his life. It's just spreading a real
inspirational message and hopefully we can draw some inspiration from
my studio. They return to Sarah Herringer lost her husband
in that terrible terrible stabbing in their apartment over the Rhine,
going back to the Patrick Herringer Act, which a ken
we're going to get past this fall. It would require
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real time monitoring, actually, someone literally paying attention to folks
out there on ankle monitors so they can't cut them off,
So they can't you wander around for months before committing
their next crime. Is this is and again the idea
that this was passed overwhelmingly in the Ohio House only
to die in the Senate committee. Do you know whether
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this was a money issue, Sarah means like, no, we
can't do that. That's going to cost us Ohio taxpayer
too much money.
Speaker 14 (02:06:43):
I would assume it had to come down to a
dollar amount. Why else would it be rejected when it
when it comes.
Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
To right kind of thing. That's why I'm angry about.
Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
I mean, I'm trying to be Switzerland neutrality here and
trying to figure out what would stop this from happening.
And you know, one might say, well, we really don't
have the technology to do this real time, and I
would throw a BS flag on that.
Speaker 7 (02:07:07):
You do.
Speaker 14 (02:07:07):
The technology exists, we do have it, you know. And
the the other part of it too, is also the
and part of the act is having the the alerts
go to the local police departments right and have them notified.
It's it's not even enough that it's like, well, when
when this happens, when the ACAL monitor you know, the notification,
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where does it go, who's monitoring it, what happens to it,
who's responding, And there just needs to be a faster
and more you know, urgency behind the apprehension of someone
who's done this.
Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
Yeah, how about like an Amber alert? Yeah, I mean,
if a child goes missing, you get an Amber alert
almost immediately as soon as the authorities are made aware.
They've got a central system that sends out the messages
right about that.
Speaker 14 (02:07:56):
And they also they treat you know, different felons differently.
To my understanding, I've been speaking with some of the
local police officers here, and when it comes to sex offenders,
they get notified immediately for that, thankfully, thankfully.
Speaker 13 (02:08:12):
Yes, And.
Speaker 14 (02:08:15):
There can't just be you know, like this one's worse
than all of the others, so you know, there there
should be.
Speaker 13 (02:08:22):
It's in it.
Speaker 14 (02:08:23):
But it shows again that there is already a system
and technology in place for a certain type of criminal,
for a certain type of alert, So why wouldn't we
just put that across the board with anyone wearing an
ankle monitor and also notify the police for anyone who
has gone a wall, and especially violent criminals, not just
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ones who have created sex.
Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
Crimes, and to the extent they want to prioritize their
efforts in rounding that person off. Well, it's a low
level offender. The person got, you know, busted for third
offense stealing sodas or something for in store, was serving
a minor amount of time, or was out on probation
with an ankle monitor over a non violent offense. We're
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not going to prioritize our efforts to get that guy.
But we know he's out there because we got the alert, right,
it seems manageable. And then the child molester comes out.
All right, all man on deck, We're all gonna go
out and search for this pervert. Absolutely, that's the way
you manage that. And you know the other thing is
we have geo fencing. I mean you can program your
cell phone and your your your dog ankle or your
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dog collar that zaps them when they go past a
certain area. You don't need to put a line in
the ground anymore. You just allocate the plan based on
GPS satellite images and boom, you've got it. The dog
gets to that area, it's gonna get zapped. Same thing.
Technology clearly works.
Speaker 13 (02:09:43):
Yes, absolutely, And you.
Speaker 1 (02:09:47):
Know what, going back to that money thing, the going
to close millions of dollars. I go back to the
we found six hundred million dollars to give to the
Cleveland Browns. Six million. I gotta imagine that would cover
most of the car this. I mean, how much can
it possibly cost to run this kind of system.
Speaker 14 (02:10:03):
Well, that's the other thing that Cindy Abrams were looking into.
She when she introduced this bill the first time, there
was and that's the thing where she's looking to see
what happened.
Speaker 13 (02:10:16):
There is money.
Speaker 14 (02:10:17):
For it, there is, and it's not you know the
person that's like, oh, like yeah, you know. Some of
the complaints have been how much more taxes? You know,
how is this going to raise taxes? How much would
this I'm already paying so much? And it's like, no,
you don't need to pay any more taxes than you're
already paying. We need to reallocate these things towards programs
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that have transparency and proven success and not just keep
taking that money and dumping them into organizations that are
designed to manage poverty and crime. Therefore, they don't actually
fix them because their jobs would go away.
Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Oh and that isn't that a problem here in the system.
There's so many longer real organizations out there doing work
in the community, and they have their hand in the
taxpayer cookie jar. They do get paid, and they do
promise to do some good that's been defined which qualified
them to get some of the taxpayer dollars. But does
anyone follow up and really truly do an analysis to
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find out if the work that they claim they're doing
is actually actually effective.
Speaker 14 (02:11:21):
And in Cincinnati the answer is no. And in our
own hometown, where we have that type of system, that
type of government funds being put into these NGOs, to
date there is not They are not showing true metrics
of success, mostly because they haven't defined them.
Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
Yeah, you know, it's convenience.
Speaker 14 (02:11:43):
Yes, very convenient to decide or see whether something that
they're putting money towards works or not.
Speaker 13 (02:11:49):
So it does.
Speaker 14 (02:11:50):
I think with all of that, it has to come
from a total reorganization, from reallocation of funds. But we
need the leader ship to really be transparent with what
our money is being spent on anyway, line by line,
where is it going metrics of success, and then the
money just really needs to go to a program such
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as a real time ankle monitoring notification working with local
law enforcement.
Speaker 13 (02:12:17):
That's something that's that's effective.
Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
And you can make a great argument for that demonstrably effective.
Just on a theoretical level that we're talking here. You
ask the question, can this be accomplished? Do we have
the technology to do it? Of course we do. Can
we make this happen? Well, of course we can. This
is not sort of conceptually beyond the pale, some sort
of brand new thing that you're thinking up out a
whole clock. I mean, I'm sure there's real time monitoring
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somewhere out in the world, some other county or.
Speaker 13 (02:12:46):
Community, probably other states within.
Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
Yeah, we could just follow their lead. The work's already done.
Don't exactly. Oh well, I'll just do what they did.
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Twenty nine I fifty five k C the talk station
by the time was Sarah Herringer Boster her husband Patrick
in a terribly violent stabbing attack in their Over the
Rhine apartment. They are business owners in the community that
lived there for I guess you told me eight years.
So eight year and you moved.
Speaker 13 (02:14:16):
Out, yes, yeah, no longer there.
Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Yeah, you sucked it up as long as you could.
And Over the Rhine now you've heard may I have
to have peerwell in the wake of this ridiculous and
horrific violence that we witnessed a few weeks ago, and
with the beat down, I think everyone kind of generally
understands when you say what the beatdown was, which event
was referring to. But the mayor and other council members
and the city manager, and I guess, to some extent,
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although not as much, Police Chief Thiegi coming out saying, oh, no,
Cincinnati's safe. Don't believe your eyes, don't believe what you
see on the video. Cincinnati's a safe place. They claim.
The crime is down. Now, you lived in over the Rhine,
one of the hotspots it's been repeatedly identified for criminal
activity regularly. I'm not just picking on Over the line,
But you actually live there, So living there for eight
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solid years, what was your experience, I mean, and your
husband was killed? What June sixth, June fourth, June fourth,
So in the eight years preceding June fourth, when you
finally said you've had enough for obvious reasons, what was
it like day.
Speaker 14 (02:15:18):
To day there? We always played the gun or the game?
Is that gunshots or fireworks?
Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
Oh? You know, I remember my days in Chicago. Yeah,
it's gonna play out in our alleyway.
Speaker 13 (02:15:31):
Yeah, you're like, is that construction?
Speaker 6 (02:15:33):
Firework?
Speaker 13 (02:15:34):
Gunshot?
Speaker 1 (02:15:35):
Cars don't backfire anymore? You can go ahead and believe.
Speaker 14 (02:15:38):
That if you want exactly and yeah, I mean that
if you do look at the shot Spotter program that's
like a year to date, there's like twenty two thousand shots.
Speaker 4 (02:15:48):
Whoa.
Speaker 14 (02:15:49):
So that's and and maybe I don't want to be
too misleading. I need to double check that data that
was that was thrown out. But the point being is
my lived experience is shots fired on a regular weekly
occurrence in for for the past eight years.
Speaker 13 (02:16:09):
The concern that before this was more so.
Speaker 14 (02:16:16):
Theft uh and then Patrick and I had talked and
it's and it's insane for me to be saying this now,
but I really believed that I was safe. Other than
wrong place, wrong time, The crime wasn't towards me. I
you know, catch a stray bullet, which the bullets have
to go somewhere. There have been times where you know,
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they've been in the roof of our house. They're on
the roof of our building. There there was a night
where we were out and it just felt there was
a big event in Washington Park and I was like,
I don't feel good. Let's out here, Let's just go home.
It was nine pm. We got home and we have
bullets whizzing by our bedroom to a point where my
husband drops to the floor and he's an army that
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he's been deployed. This wasn't and I was like, oh,
I guess we're getting to the floor now. A couple
weeks before this had happened outside on Walnut Street down
an OTR across from the shell. Forty to fifty shots fired.
It wakes me up in my bed and I'm like, Okay, gunshots,
Oh my god, gunshots. I'm laying as flat as I
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can in my bed as far as all my like,
is this going to come through the window, what's going
to happen, so that even then we were like, all right,
the bullets are going to go somewhere. That's that is
probably our greatest threat. So it's probably time to move
out of here. And so no, I mean downtown is
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not safe. And for the elected officials to continue saying that,
to skew data, to try to you know, present, to
paint a story. And I understand why they're doing it.
I own a business in OTR and I'm hesitant to
say it, but we had to press charge is on
someone who attacked a member just this week.
Speaker 13 (02:18:04):
And the parking lot oh no, yeah.
Speaker 14 (02:18:06):
And these are things where it's you know, the media
is like do you want to report? And now you
know here I'm talking about it, but I'm like, no,
this is my business, this is my livelihood. I'm already suffering.
I've already lost my husband. The threat now on a
safety level when it comes to financial means. So I
understand why they want to paint this picture Cincinnati, the games,
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the events. That's why they have the elevated police presence
is they want to create a feeling of safety. But
what the get yes, to get exactly you know, and
to even come down and spend their their dollars, and
we need that. But what the business owners and residents
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of OTR are saying is, don't just give us the
appearance of safety. Make it safe all the time, not
just when Taylor Swift is in town.
Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
Put an exclamation point underline and put it in bold.
Safe all the time, not just when Taylor Swifts in town. Well, yeah,
knocked it out of the park with that one, Sarah, Amen,
let's pause. We take a early break, just a slightly
early break. It's coming up on eight thirty five. We'll
bring her back and talk some more about life and
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Speaker 1 (02:20:38):
Eight fifty five kr CD talk station. Hope you having
a happy Friday. I'm thoroughly enjoying in spite of the
subject matter my conversation with Sarah Herringer with her lost
show lost her husband Patrick and is stabbing at their
over the Rhine apartment after having moved down and over
the Rhyine for eight years and establishing a business and
over the rhyine. But I guess becoming the word you
used off air, Sarah, desensitize, because I told you, you know,
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it's just not me. It's all fortuitous. Yes, there's gunfire
going on all over the round, but it happens all
the time. But I know I'm not worried because I'm
not a target of it. I'm not involved in criminal activity,
I'm not in a gang, I'm not dealing drugs, all
those things that law enforcement over the years has traditionally said. Listen,
if you're going downtown, you will be safe unless you're
down there to deal drugs by drugs or involved in
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criminal activity that's going to get you shot. Right, So
that's kind of the attitude you had, I imagined. Yeah,
But you mentioned though, how often, how frequently is bullets
are whizzing by your window? And I wanted you to
put a little more meat on the flesh on the
bones of that statement, because I asked you off Mike
about your husband, military trained veteran who literally jumped on
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the floor out of fear for his and your own
safety when bullets came whizzing by you. Actually you literally
heard them.
Speaker 14 (02:21:51):
Yes, there was there was this We were just getting
ready for bed that night, where I was like, things
just feel a little uneasy. We were home and all
of a sudden, I hear this whistling noise.
Speaker 13 (02:22:04):
It's like, just like I can't even make.
Speaker 1 (02:22:09):
It on television, yes, Hollywood movie sound effect.
Speaker 13 (02:22:12):
Yeah, and I'm just very odd and it felt close.
Speaker 14 (02:22:15):
And my husband drops to the floor immediately as soon
as he hears it, and I was like, oh, I
guess that's you know, And I slowly, like an elevator,
moved down to the ground, not not having the speed
he has, and he's like, those are bullets that whiz
But then when you when a bullet whizz is by, that's.
Speaker 13 (02:22:33):
What it sounds like.
Speaker 14 (02:22:34):
And he knew what it sounded like because he's, you know,
he had been deployed, he had served in two wars
and had oddly enough survived that right, only to be
killed in his home because of failure of city leadership.
Speaker 13 (02:22:47):
And he knew what that was.
Speaker 14 (02:22:50):
He knew what it sounded like, and it was a
completely foreign sound to me, but that was what engaged
that initial just instinct that he had and that he dropped.
Speaker 1 (02:23:00):
In your you're recounting over the eight years you're there.
The experience with hearing whether it's whizzing by you that
that close range or just hearing it in the distance
kind of was the norm.
Speaker 14 (02:23:11):
Yes, yeah, I mean there would be times two o'clock
in the morning, I'd wake up, go down, get a
cup of water, and would hear four or five gunshots
pop off and you're like, eh, okay, and then you
just go back to bed. And talking to anyone who
lives in a neighborhood, who that's not the normal. I mean,
(02:23:31):
if they heard that one night or they would have
called all of the neighbors would have called the police,
They would have what's happened?
Speaker 13 (02:23:39):
Who would you know?
Speaker 14 (02:23:40):
There would be probably an appropriate reaction to that instead
of like, yep, that's the sounds of the city, that's
the sounds of the neighborhood I live in, right.
Speaker 1 (02:23:52):
Yeah. And you know the weird thing about this, and
I've never really thought about it along these lines. You
hear about shot spotter technology, which you mentioned earlier. Why
would any municipality invest in ShotSpot or technology unless or
if they didn't have a problem with gun violence?
Speaker 13 (02:24:09):
Right, if you have to measure, you.
Speaker 1 (02:24:10):
Think there's shots spot around Anderson I'm gonna pick on
Anderson again. Do they have it out there?
Speaker 5 (02:24:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Do they have a need for it out there?
Speaker 4 (02:24:16):
No?
Speaker 14 (02:24:16):
Think so, I don't think West all of those all
of those areas. Yeah, I mean you you put you
invest those things are not cheap. You invest in that
when you need to. You know, there's they should be
collecting data to see like are the policing that you
have in that area?
Speaker 13 (02:24:35):
Is that reducing?
Speaker 8 (02:24:36):
Right?
Speaker 14 (02:24:36):
That's a good measurement. Is it actually reducing gun shots?
We should probably measure where are the gun shots? Because
it's not like an exact location, but we kind of
you know, we know that it's in this area.
Speaker 1 (02:24:48):
It triangulates, yeah, within a block any.
Speaker 14 (02:24:50):
Right, right, you know, in order to help because of
we're all dissensitized, so we don't call the police when
we hear gunshots anymore, you know.
Speaker 5 (02:25:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:25:00):
That's it Again, as any other neighborhood where this never happens,
everyone would be calling the cops. You wouldn't need shot
spotter technology because it's so unusual, it so often happens
in downtown. Again, based on your personal experience, A you
need it be No one's going to be calling the
cops because they hear it all the time. See, you
get desensitized to it. And that's where I wanted to
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pivot over. I mean because and I mentioned that story
again to you off air, when we lived in rather
what I will characterize as somewhat dicey problematic neighborhood outside
of Chicago, when we were up and were actually in
the city of Chicago, my wife and I middle of
the night. I know what a shotgun sounds like because
I shoot them all the time, and I'm familiar with
guns generally speaking. But I heard distinctively, what was a
(02:25:41):
shotgun blast? My wife wakes up, Oh my god, what
was that? And I just calmly looked at our roll
over as a shotgun blast? Go back to sleep. It
didn't strike me as that unexpected because I knew about
all the gang activity that occurred in that area where
we lived, So it was like, Okay, what are we
going to get worked up about? What can I do
about it? It's a shotgun blast, and probably in the
middle of night, probably I probably ran away. I don't know.
(02:26:02):
I'm not gonna lift my finger about it. Do you
think and that sounds me like the attitude that you have.
It's like, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 11 (02:26:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (02:26:08):
I used to call in the beginning, and then I
was like, I can't keep.
Speaker 1 (02:26:13):
This is a part time when seconds count? Yes, do
you think amid the refrains and cries from our our
city leaders, if I can use the term loosely, mayor
I have to have provall and others saying that violence
is not a problem, that crime is not a problem
in downtowns, and saying do you think they too suffer
from this desensitization that we're talking about here, that they're
so used to with themselves that they don't perceive regular
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gunfire going off in any community as a problem.
Speaker 14 (02:26:39):
I don't think they live downtown, No, there you go.
I think they live in neighborhoods where they would call
if they heard gunshots.
Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
I recommend a property they can buy so they can relocate.
Speaker 14 (02:26:52):
Yeah, And that's the thing, Like we could ask any
one of them, are you willing to live in OTR
given the circumstances right now?
Speaker 8 (02:26:59):
And relo?
Speaker 14 (02:27:00):
Okay, I am willing to bet the answers now. Probably,
So if you're not willing to live there, why would
you not be willing to live there? It's not because
of noise, Yeah, it's maybe a particular type of noise,
but it's because it's not safe.
Speaker 1 (02:27:15):
Corey Bowman lives in the West End. Yeah, they got
a lot of gunflat yeh, going ad.
Speaker 13 (02:27:19):
I'm sure he hears it all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:27:20):
Yeah, yeah, And he's committed to his community making it
a better place. Just to say it out loud, you
know there are options out there. Was move forward to
November one more with Sarah Herringer. I really appreciate your
time today spending with my listeners and me and talking
about this very important is she's and I think opening
people's eyes, that's really what your life experience over the
last eight years can do for folks and bringing this
there's attention so we can make a better place for everyone,
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which is all you're hoping to get out of this tragedy.
Absolutely more with Sarah. It's eight forty five fifty five KRCD.
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Speaker 1 (02:28:58):
A fifty fifty five KRCD talks a bit of an
inside joke. Employees. Have I hurt me? You know Sarah
has gone through my stack? My listeners I've mentioned many times.
At the end of the fridays I had this, it's
more than a ream of paper worth of stories that
I haven't gotten to, most of which I've gotten through
a lot of them, like stories in the news I
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was talking about this morning that he caught hearing yesterday.
That's a piece of paper, A couple of pieces of paper. Anyway,
stack them all up. Came to the end of the
week and I just was showing her, you know, the
output of my labor, and I said, I bet I
didn't get to even half of the stories are in
the stack. And she said, don't you have an assistant, Joe,
Do I have an assistant other than the executive producer
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of the fifty five Karasy Morning Show has his own
responsibilities and obligations. No, I am on my own staff
at me. Sarah Herringer in studio of course, widow Patrick
Herringer who stabbed in their apartment, talking about I mean again,
Patrick's Law. Patrick Herringer Act is going to We are
(02:30:03):
positive it's going to be passed, requiring real time ankle
monitoring so you at least can believe that the system
is actually doing something good. So we addressed that early
in the program. Now by way of other changes, I'm
sure you paid attention to what have to have provoll
said by way of some reforms that they've enacted in
the wake of the beat down. Sadly not in the
(02:30:24):
wake of your husband getting murdered. Add that to the
list of murders in the city of Cincinnati. Obviously we
have a serious gun play problem, as you've demonstrated through
your comments and what you've experienced personally, what so many
other residents have experienced. Did anything he offered by way
of solutions, like, for example, the curfew, give you any
sense of comfort, like, Okay, that actually might work. Okay,
(02:30:45):
I like the way what he is saying. It's not
going to solve all the problems, but it sounds like
a step in the right direction. Or do you, I mean,
find fault with his proposals or do you think he
was missing out on an opportunity in some way to
transform or change the nature of law enforcement?
Speaker 14 (02:31:00):
I think, I mean the thing that I'm looking at
is what's the expiration date on this? On all of
the things that he's putting in this We're not looking
for temporary band aids here. We need a long term
solution and also not so much reactionary things. Where is
the proactive policing? Why aren't they allowing police really to
(02:31:25):
do their job, pull people over, search cars, that's where
you find stolen guns, you know. The why aren't we
using the fugitive apprehension to go out I've said it
so many times to get the fifty two violent offenders
that are a wall in Hamilton County, We have one
hundred and fifty that have already popped off their ankle
(02:31:47):
monitors that we know, And why aren't we going Why
aren't we cleaning up the streets?
Speaker 1 (02:31:54):
Yeah, and recidtive is a problem. And if you've identified
the criminal element, they're likely to break the law again,
and they do it over and over again. So it's
a very small slice of society that's sorting it for everybody.
Speaker 14 (02:32:06):
Yeah, which is why I think so many people, you know,
when they're they're looking at these policies, they can't imagine
what it's like to think like a criminal. They don't
think like one, and so they you know, these programs,
even they sound really nice and compassionate and rehabilitative, but
that's that's not really the case. We need We need
police protection. We need to be proactive, We need to
(02:32:30):
prevent crimes, not just be really great at responding to them.
So I think, you know, if I'm going to be
critical if some of the things that AFTAB is put
into place, it's it's what are we doing to prevent?
What are we doing to allow police to really police
and do their jobs? What is you know, what are
these expiration dates? And then even down to the curfew,
it's like, listen, the only kids breaking the curfew are
(02:32:53):
the ones who don't listen to the law to begin with. Yeah,
and they're really you know, you look it over. There's
even one they're like, we're going to enforce it, except if.
Speaker 1 (02:33:03):
You're exercising your First Amendment right, right, And and I'm like,
freedom of assembly is also in the constitutions, Sarah, So
somebody's going to make a constitutional yeah.
Speaker 14 (02:33:11):
And so the whole thing is like, why don't you
why don't you enforce laws? Why don't you actually create
things that you can legally enforce?
Speaker 13 (02:33:20):
And I don't know if the curfew is one of them.
And you can't control how.
Speaker 14 (02:33:24):
Parents take care of their children, but you can control
how police, you know, police.
Speaker 1 (02:33:30):
But let us not let this topic go before we
part company today, Sarah, without pointing out that one of
the most critical elements of the judicial system and the
criminal justice system is having judges who are willing to
issue higher bonds, take concern themselves with the societal concerns,
which are you and me out here in the world,
and also to uphold that concept of criminal justice punishment
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without punishment, it's not a deterrence.
Speaker 13 (02:33:55):
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:33:57):
The hardest consequences, the hardest to fix. Beyond fixing the
problems that these young people, notably at home. They have
a terrible home life, They're going to become juvenile criminals,
and they're going to go on and become adult criminals.
It's demonstrably provens You know, I talked to a sociologists,
so that seems to be the biggest problem out there,
is the poor home life. But you can solve the
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judicial problem just bovoting better judges who promise to be
tough on crime. Absolutely, Sarah Herringer, God bless you keep
being a voice of logic and reason. It's people like
you who are sadly in a position, but are in
a position to make changes happen. It looks like we're
going to have some good developments in Columbus this fall,
and I appreciate Cindy Abrams working with you. Want to
get the Patrick herringerac through and I'll ask my listeners
(02:34:40):
to definitely get in touch with their representatives and senators
in Columbus and tell them, what the hell, let's get
this past this time, don't let it die in the Senate. Sarah,
You're always welcome here.
Speaker 13 (02:34:52):
Thanks, thanks for having real.
Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
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