55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Brad Wenstrup, Sarah Heringer

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Hatter Tech Friday with Dave hat Or brought to you
by Interest It today's edition. What happened earlier this week
with that Amazon cloud outage that we were impacted by

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slightly here that morning. It was a chaotic morning, really
strange anyway, That's topic number one, how do you create
a good password. We've been down this road before, and
it is an important thing to know that hackers using
artificial intelligence to go on a cyber crime spree. And
if you're a lawyer out there, a judge, would you
please stop using artificial intelligence unless you go back and

(01:41):
check your citations and the quotes from the case and
the outcome from the case. You got to look at
the original case law. You've got a couple of federal
judges that actually used artificial intelligence, that had errors in
the rulings, like including quotes from people who weren't involved
in the case, erroneous outcomes in the case, artificial touch up,
making this stuff up whole cloth. It's crazy anyway. Then

(02:04):
we're onto private citizen Brad Winster, former congressman. You remember him.
He'll be in studio, he always is, and that's a
great thing. Have a good conversation with him. We'll talk
about shutdown here shortly, Private Citizen brand Winster for the
seven o'clock hour, and then the return of Sarah Herringer.
You may recall Sarah husband stabbed to death in their
apartment in over the Rhine, bringing about the realization to

(02:26):
all of us that yeah, that ankle monitor thing doesn't
mean Jack squat. We'll get the latest on the Patrick
Herringer legislation she's been pushing and her outspoken efforts in
that regard thoughts on what's happening downtown as well. Speaking
of downtown, looking for it, the FOP has rented a
mobile billboard. It's got Mayor Parvoll depicted as a puppet master.

(02:52):
Parvall put politics over safety. Look for it. It's going
to be out and about today sixteen foot led truck.
Of course, this is all swirling about the suspension or
announcements since a police chief, Terry Thiji, placed on administrative
leave pending an internal investigation into the effectiveness of her leadership.

(03:12):
This is a comical exercise. It's an embarrassing exercise, and
props a brother dre Andre Ewing for pointing out that
it wasn't more than a moment in time ago that
have to have pro ball and Teresa thijis standing next
to each other and singing each other's praise is about

(03:32):
how effective her leadership is in the City of Cincinnati
Police Department. Only to be well, I guess upended by
the crime situation of downtown Cincinnati people's overall concerns that, yes,
there is a lot of crime going on in downtown Cincinnati.
Not was stating the fact that up until recently, Mayor
I have to have parvoal said, you can't believe your
own eyes and your own ears. And now we have

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a prime and now we have a problem. And it's
also happens to be the number one focus of his administration.
Our number one priority continues to be public safety. As
if public safety was ever a priority for a to
have Purvoll. That's what he said, though, going back to
you're gonna believe your eyes and ears, you're gonna believe
they have to have pear Boll and what he says,
A you're gonna believe, well, what you know to be true,

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and what we know to be true is yes, parvol
and the city manager have hiring and firing discretion over
the chief of police. Chief of police reports to them.
They are, in fact the chief of police's bosses sus
and she was bending to their will. Remember the litigation
about the employment discrimination against white people and police Chief

(04:40):
Fiji's promotion of black folks and women apparently with less
merit over the what is argued in the litigation, the
more qualified and competent white guys. Let that sort itself out.
But I'm certain, given how woke they have to have
pear of bo administration, is that that indeed was a directive.

(05:03):
We need more people of color, we need more women
in higher roles, so go about promoting them over the
apparently more qualified in a merit system anyway, white guys,
because we have too many white people or something. Statistics
really look odd on that when you see the number
of women and the number of people of color that
were I guess lieutenants who were then elevated over the

(05:26):
number of white lieutenants that were eligible. So anyway, there's
that problem going on in the background. Maybe it'll reveal
that bus she was in fact following the instructions of
her bosses, which makes perfect sense, Eddie. How that is
going to go on? And the shutdown is still going on,
going on a federal level, and it's looking more and

(05:48):
more like well, they're just starting bringing them from one
problem created by them are elected officials, into yet another
one created by this slow process. The deadline is fast approaching.
The continuing resolute or the legislation they're voting on which
the Democrats refuse to sign on to that cr which

(06:08):
keeps funding levels at last year's level Biden levels. I
only keep only extends until what the third week of
November so they can get the work on the appropriations
bills done. TikTok, TikTok. What day is today, twenty fourth?
Is that going to give them enough time? Probably not.
Let's see what Cleveland Aw's got today, Cleveland Al, Welcome

(06:29):
to the show and a happy Friday to you, sir.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I appreciate you letting me make a quick comment to Yeah,
I understand and appreciate the fact that what makes your
show go and makes it so successful is your passion
for reasoned thought and debate. And I have been a

(06:58):
loyal listener for the last six years and will continue
to do so on a daily basis. But Fridays are
always something that I look forward to, and it's kind
of like appointment radio for me. Two reasons. One Tech

(07:18):
Friday it keeps me keeps me safe in the digital world.
And the other thing I look forward to every Friday
is the Friday Stack of stupid. So as a loyal listener,
I am making a passion to plea that you consider
making the Friday Stack of Stupid a protected segment.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
No phone calls for the last two segments of the
five o'clock hour. You know, honestly, al I have thought
of that several times, especially because I know what the
content of the stack is stupid is and like I
got three four callers calling in, and I always prefer
to your point. And that's the high praise anybody can
keep on me. And I can't thank you enough for
appointing to logic and reason because that's really at the

(08:05):
core of my being. I want to try to like
Mississippi James causing, you know, there's always a couple of
sides to view something from, and so you got to
take into account and come up with a better solution
or at least exchange the ideas about it. That's the only
way you come up with the truth. So thank you
from the bottom of my heart for that. But yeah,
maybe that declaration will apply today.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Okay, Well, I got a lot of appreciate that, A
lot of naked I appreciate it, Yeah, absolutely, and you
know it kind of keeps me thankful that but for
the grace of God go I So you know, the
The last thing I would like to say is I'm
going to leave all other comments about voting to Tom

(08:52):
and the other listeners have a wonderful day.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
All I can't thank you. I appreciate your tuning into
the program him. That just made my day. That logic comment,
God bless you, sir. So all right, well, why not
since it is a local story, and I hope and
I expect maybe Tom might call on the bottom of
the ar one do local stories? And since I do
have a local story, and since I was having a
go at lawyers a moment ago, stupidly using artificial intelligence

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and then not looking at what the artificial intelligence spit
out before you were fool enough to file it with
a court. What's Blake Maslin's phone number? Joe, former attorney
of Blake Maslin's law firm. This Kevin Grash has since
I inquire reported Yes, local boy show up outside Mazelan's

(09:40):
offices a year after he'd been fired with what is
described as war paint on his face, a hatchet, and
a baseball bat. He has just had his law license
suspended for eighteen months. This and the suspension comes from
the Supreme Court, which handles disciplinary issues handed down yesterday.
Incident happened as the firm's employee gathered outside the Mazeland

(10:02):
East Walnut Hills offices in April of last year to
watch the solar eclipse. Ronald Coleman Taylor Junior, who'd been
fired the prior year for being increasingly quote belligerent towards
clients and other employees close quote that's in the document's
file with the Supreme Court for the disciplinary hearing. Apparently
he parked his vehicle across the street from this gathering

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and apparently tried to challenge Blake Maslin to a duel.
It says, he is sure, I don't think we're ever
going to come out with the reason for that. Joe
Taylor had shaved his head, painted his face with what
the documents say he called his words war paint. After
retrieving a hatchet and a metal baseball bat for the
back of his car, shouted a Mazeland who wasn't even there,

(10:48):
calling him to come outside. Firms employees all, pretty much
all of them went inside. His former legal assistant, though,
walked up to him and calmed him down, convinced him
to get out of there. By the time police showed
up he had in fact gone. Later that day, Taylor
sent his former legal assistant a series of text messages,
among them here of the quotes, I'm a Blackfeet warrior.

(11:12):
What I will take scalps? What I was praying Blake
would come out so I could execute my plan and
take his scalp and drink his blood in front of you.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
What?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And Yet another text tailor described using a Molotov cocktail
during a big mediation to bring some innocence into it
and exponentially heighten the horror. He's been an attorney since
two thousand and eight. During the disciplinary process, he agreed
that all he agreed the allegations about the incident are

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all true. He did not attend to hear him before
the Attorney Disciplinary Board, apparently before the April April twenty
twenty four incident. It was the subject matter of this
disciplinary care hearing. Taylor had threatened employees of the office,
and the office had changed its locks because of those threats,
and its decision in Supreme Court said that neither disciplinary

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Board nor the Court had information regarding Taylor's mental health
at the time of the incident or any treatment he
may have received at or afterwards. Court said Tailor not
offered even the most basic evidence about the issues quote
that undoubtedly contributed to his unconventional, erratic and threatening behavior.

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He approved it unilaterally without congressional authority, part of his
power as the chief executive. Let me here you go.
Yesterday started out the program and I discussed the idea

(12:50):
of this just outrageous realization, how stupid. Just one more
illustration of how stupid chasing carbon dioxide is out. The
facts and figures are in Australia effort to reduce their emissions,
and they're planning on getting to zero emissions by I
guess twenty thirty or some randomly chosen date. They finally

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realize that, well, China emits Australia's annual carbon output every
twelve days. Annual carbon owl would added all up, every
little gram of carbon dioxide enter the atmosphere every twelve days.
It's put out and bounced out by China. Why, because
they're building coal plants. They use coal plants. They're building

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more coal plants, currently building one hundred and seventy seven.
They got a further two hundred and twenty six in
pre construction phase. Australia, of course has none, So we're
all wasting our time in spite of that, and in
spite of the misery it's heaping down upon everyone because
it causes the rate of electricity, the price of electricity
to go up. Green is not inexpensive, and without subsidies, well,

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it's impractical and stupid. Well's stupid for several reasons. One
because it doesn't produce continuous electricity until it's really really expensive,
and nobody would build it or go that way unless
it was subsidized by the government. The Big Beautiful Bill
cuts back these subsidies, bringing some sanity into our selection
process when it comes to energy production, especially since artificial
intelligence has soaken up all kinds of electricity that isn't

(14:20):
even online yet. I mean, we're short and out of
electricity now compared to our needs, So why are we
continuing to chase our tails? Electricity prices arising. The Democrats
are trying to say it's the Republican's fault because the
subsidies have been pulled. This is not yet has un
impacted yet, that's next year, but it's climate policies. Great
article for the Wall Street Journal this morning. Read it

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for yourself. Electricity prices going up. Green policy is to blame, Yes,
it is. Energy Department shows California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts,
New York all their electricity prices has jumped thirty percent
in the past five years. As far as the national increase,
it's twenty two and a half percent. The states closed
most of their coal fired plants, nuclear facilities too. Non

(15:06):
renewable energy generation more difficult to well, they won't allow drilling,
they won't allow piping they are pipelines. They won't approve
projects that aren't green related. Turned to Florida, Georgia, Missouri,
Texas and other states that do not have these policies
in place. Well, it's a lot cheaper electricity. Duh. California

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prices up fifty eight percent over the past five years.
They closed all but one of their coal plants, all
of the nuclear facilities except a singular facility, Diablo Canyon plant.
Second highest residential electric prices in the country. Massachusetts they
produced only about half as much electricity as they did
in twenty ten. See, we're moving forward evolutionarily speaking, we're

(15:50):
moving forward technologically speaking. We're moving forward in so many
different ways in terms of actual advancements Massachusetts produces half
of what it did in twenty ten. They closed coal plants,
they closed their nuclear plant, They just going toward renewable.
Solar provides a quarter of Massachusetts power generation last year,

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and they at least admitted in their Climate report card
they're facing significant challenges to meet their longer term term goals.
In other words, Massachusetts had star for electricity, and we
can't achieve zero carbon policies because well, the renewables just
don't make enough electricity to meet our demands. New York
closed its last coal plant in twenty twenty. Indian Point

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Nuclear plant also closed in twenty twenty one. Their system
operator now warning of significant power shortfalls. All right, they're
still looking at seventy percent renewable electricity by twenty thirty
and one hundred percent zero missions by twenty forty. How's
that going for you? Do you ever think that's going
to happen? Hell? No, it's not. And one more point

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on this New England natural gas shortage. Twenty twenty four,
gas generated fifty five percent of the electricity in New England,
but for more than a decade, New York block the
construction of gas pipelines to New England to well try
to decarbonize and to reduce the shortage. Massachusetts imports liquefied

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natural gas from Canada and overseas locations, which costs them
higher prices than if they got it through a pipe
right there, but New York won't let them build that
we are colossally stupid, chasing our tails on carbon dioxide.
And you know what, you and I and well the

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people most notably on life's margins are feeling the pain, unless,
of course, if you're on public assistance completely and you're
getting some sort of government relief to help offset the
reality of the expense of electricity. Think about that. Government
creates the problem. It makes electricity go up artificially, so
because of green energy policy, you are going to face

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the brunt of that you're gonna have to pay for
the more expensive electricity, unless, of course, you're making so
little money you're considered a government dependent, in which case
maybe you're eligible for some assistance. Huh. Maybe that's the point.
Get everybody hooked up to some government program like, oh,
I don't know, subsidies for insurance, hiding the real cost
to the American people, but not really doing so. Because

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if the taxpayers ultimately are on the hook for it
through some government program. Look at our national deficit and
our debt. Yeah, one more thing. Government's supposed to be
paying for it because it doesn't cost anything for a subsidy.
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That was just at that place is just absolutely amazing.
Then Congressman Warren Davidson joined the show as well. Yesterday
podcast fifty five cares dot com. Tom, Welcome to the show.
Happy Friday, my.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Friend, Good morning. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's Friday? How do you think?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah? Yeah, you got about what three and a half hours?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, you're planning, and I'm planning. I'm gonna go in
to the homecoming. So we had a big shin dig
going on at my h at my fraternity in advance
of the parade. And so if all things, if the
stars all aligne, I'm gonna be enjoying an adult beverage
standing there in the old parking lot and having a
great time with my friends from college.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Did you did you ever get a tour of the
new practice facility?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
No, I'll see why you put a war in gets
you in there. It's it's pretty coold. You built well.
I I pretty much know every square. It's that god
forsaken place you now. It's a it's a really cool building.
But construction sites, you know, those those of us in
construction know what I mean. It's like you spend enough
time in a place, you're like, I'm ready to get

(20:19):
out of here y'a on to the next and then
it'll be it'll be pretty much the same song and dance.
So yeah, I did will confirm the frost warning first
time this season. I had to scrape the windows this morning.
Uh so, uh yeah, definitely, uh, definitely chilling out there
this morning. You're you're talking about the energy prices and

(20:44):
and uh the supply of energy and stuff. And I
understand this is basically what's going on is you have
a joint effort between politicians and policymakers or whatever, and uh,
the leaders of these companies. Uh, I think I think
it's either ones taking advantage of the other vice versa.

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I get why companies are raising their prices. They have
a profit margin they want to make, and they have
employees to pay, and they have things to take care of,
and and as the government shuts things down and and
closes plants, they got to still make trying to make
the same amount of money overall. I I kind of
get that. What I don't get is the politicians who

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are allegedly supposedly working for us representing us. Yeah, that's
and that's they're there. Why would you do I mean,
you try to think of anything that makes sense. Not
necessarily right or wrong, but at least makes sense why
politicians would do something like this and the goodness of

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their heart trying to save the planet. I don't know.
I mean, they say that, that's what they're saying, but
but I'm thinking more along the lines if they're getting
something out of this somehow, out some way. You know,
Let's see, you got campaign contributions. That's that's something that's legal,
above board, that people could contribute to you and you
could keep track of. But you know, we can all speculate, uh,

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you know, we all have our opinions on is there
something else going on under the table. I don't know,
But the point is is that it doesn't make sense
to deprive the citizens of something that we need. It
doesn't make any sense, especially when you have report after
report like the one you've been reading about.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Mention me is that this isn't working. It's the fact
is causing more problems than it's he than it's solving.
So this whole green energy thing is being proven to
be stupid. We need to knock it off. But doesn't
mean go back to dumping toxic waste into rivers or anything.
Let's let's use some common sense and let's you know, hey,

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let's not so you know, let's make sure we're not
doing stupid stuff to pollute you know, the ground, the
water and all that stuff. But to go out of
our way to mandate this or mandate that, you're just
asking for trouble and you're asking for things, the prices
to go through the roof. Let's let some of these
cold plants come back online, nuclear plants, whatever. Because supply

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is down. That means prices are going up because demand
is not going down, especially when they're building all these
data centers around it is demand is going through the
roof and they're choking out the supply and what do
you think is going to happen? It just makes sense.
And we know if we're talking about politicians, we know
who's behind this stuff. We got Rhinos and we got Democrats,

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so don't vote for either one of them. And I
agree with al. Let's have a Friday moratorium on calls
in the bottom half of the after this segment. Stack
is stupid all day long. Have a great weekend branch.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
You tom appreciate it. And carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
That's the nefarious thing they shifted there. We're not talking
about pollutants. Are hearing screaming about mercury being belched into
the air, any other genuine pollutants that are toxic, carcinogenic
or anything else. No, that's the nefariest thing they did.
They snuck carbon dioxide in there. It's a naturally occurring phenomenon.
It's a plant food to keep and perpetuate this nonsense.

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The world's chasing its tail over plant food. Don't do that.
Five poin thirty seven right now. If you have KRC
the talk station stack has stupid coming up. But first
the word for my dear friend, doctor Fred Pack, who
had a great guy a fifty five KARC lead talk station.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Can you play John the Fisherman?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
It is Friday, It is five forty one answers always yes,
I know, put the smile on at least one listener.
Jeff always gets in touch and me let me know
I'm looking forward to John the Fisherman. Jeff, here you go.
What let us get into the stack of stupid. Let

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us see here, Friday Stack is stupid and artificial intelligence
all rolled into one. Since we've got Dave Hatter coming
up at six point thirty, I already dived. I dove
into artificial intelligence a little bit tongue lashing to all
the lawyers out there who don't bother checking the citations
of the research after AI belches it out, although I
do recognize that if you use artificial intelligence for drafting,

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it does save your client a lot of money since
you're not doing actual work and you're not billing at
an hourly rate. Sorry, I had to get it out
of my system. We go to Florida, where we have
a woman who contacted police to report that a male
assailant barged into her home, knocked into the ground, and
committed a sexual assault. Tacker, described as a stranger to
the woman. She was able to take a photo of

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the suspect while he was seated on the couch in
her Saint Petersburg apartment. At least that's what it appeared
to be. Multiple offers and forensic technicians responded to the
scenes where this woman, Brooke Schinault, thirty two year old
mother of two, said the attack occurred on October seventh. However,

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a subsequent police examination of the image provided by Ms
Scheinault showed that the photo was artificial intelligence generated via
yes Chat GPT. This, according to the rest report. Photo
also found in a deleted folder that was dated days
before she alleged the sexual battery took place. Whoops. Shawna

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Alreste arrested for falsely reporting the crime. She spent a
night in jail, then had to post a thousand dollars
bomb when they let her out. Police court documents don't
include a motive for this stupidity, says. In a recent
post on her Instagram page, Channel noted that October is
domestic violence Awareness month and that she had for years
been in abusive relationship, saying he sexually assaulted me. But

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all I can say is I survived and made it
out close.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Quote idiots doing idiot because they're idiots.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I was just thinking that Joe streckerd and let's see.
I think we can get one more in the here
for the break. Disoriented homeless one. She was described as
disoriented homeless woman arrested after police says she walked around
naked in a state college utimart This is in State College, Pennsylvania.
That's the name of the city. State College. So she's

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walking around naked and a utimark and apparently engaging in
low behavior in front of police officers. Thirty year old
Tashe Turner again found nude outside the store six thirty
in the morning September twenty sixth She was known to
police for prior incidents and allegedly refused to stay covered
up after being given a blanket by the officers, and
then began to pleasure herself right there in front of

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the patrol vehicle.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
As this tradition.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Used to get deliberate penalties, I guess that works for
men and women. Joe charged with indecent exposure, open lewdness
as opposed to clobelewdiness disorderly conduct, posted one percent of
her ten thousand dollars baill and then was released from
the Center County Prison. If you're in State College, Pennsylvania

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November fifth, that's where her preliminary hearing is going on.
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(28:35):
Stick around for that and again I always pulled the
podcast page. If you missed Tech Friday with Dave Hatter
you heard from Cleveland now earlier. He looks forward to
that because it keeps him out of trouble. I have
to agree with him completely. I've been following Dave's advice
for years and years, and I honestly, I don't think
I'm missing anything. My refusal to use ninety nine percent
of the apps that float around out there and I

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just don't need them. Let's keep you out of trouble
and keep your data in your privacy secure. Anyhow, just
when you think you've seen everything, are you ready, We're
going to Cahme Pass. California dispatchers began receiving multiple nine
to one to one calls eleven o'clock in the morning
October twentieth, reporting a nude guy running down the center divider.
Why are you doing that? I don't think we're ever

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going to find out? Centa divider of I fifteen Freeway
right there at Kenwood Avenue, It says. Responding office from
the California Highway Patrol Inland Division located the man near
the Kenwood Avenue on ramp, where he was detained without incident.
Witnesses said he appeared to be under the influence of
an unknown substance transport a local hospital for medical evaluation.

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It does continue to remain under investigation by the Highway Patrol.
Additional details, they say will be provided as they become available,
like what drug he was on. There are certain drugs
that there apparently make you want to get naked and
run all over the place and pleasure yourself quite often

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more naked. And also as his tradition, we're back in
Florida on a stack of stupid Friday, which means we
got a naked guy in Florida running him up. This
time it's Joshua Neil Garrison, who they described went on
a nude rampage through a neighborhood in Penel's Park, Florida.
Nude rampage. Garrison apparently crept through backyards, did touch himself,

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of course he did, and helped himself to whatever was
it wasn't nailed down while naked. One neighbor, Dave Dale,
got to see it all live and in person. When
Garrison rang his doorbell in the middle of the night,
Dale said, opened the door and there was a guy
standing there and he was dark naked. He said, he
wasn't satisfied merely, or rather Garrison. The naked guy wasn't

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satisfied merely tracing through people's yard in the nud He
also needed to do a little bit of what the
article described as suburban destruction. He threw a potted plant
through Dale's truck, when tore lights off homes, tried to
speak into a sneak rather into multiple houses. Vice dot
Com reporting props the Lewis product for the humor built

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into this article generally did the kinds of stuff you
would imagine a naked man roaming in a neighborhood would
feel free enough to do. Now who can argue indeed,
but it shows them removing windows, screens, testing locked doors.
Neighbor Tim Reichman, talking to local news report of the man,
entered his home, helped himself to a drink, then grabbed

(31:34):
an axe from his shed. Returning to the porch, he said,
we don't know why he didn't use it phrasing we
should report us to a sounding almost a little disappointed.
The naked guy didn't think it was worthy of being
an axe murderer. He said. Several neighbors were locked and loaded,
ready to unload magazines into the guy on the way,

(31:59):
much like tip a Floridians might be inclined to do.
No one was injured, though police coming through the neighborhood
footage to determine the charges. What's this doing in here?
Phrasing Strekker, this is a speedo. The guy's got a
speedo on. It's not naked, Goffstown, New Hampshire. They point

(32:23):
out nine to one to one. Dispatchers usually don't need
to call their own dispatch center to need help from
law enforcement. But of course, in this particular case, when
a guy in a speedo goes breaking into the dispatch center,
it creates a problem. Video shows what are described as
terrifying moments inside the Hillsboro County Sheriff's office on a

(32:44):
day in this just recently in August, man wearing nothing
but a speedo and a yellow hat tried to get
into the secure dispatch center. Thorty said. Fifty year old
Corey Nickerson barged in and tried to get from the
vestibule into the dispatch center. During the struggle, none of
this came rushing to help. According to Sheriff Brian Newcomb's
quota of saying, typically here rendering assistants over the phone

(33:06):
and radio for people calling nine to one one or
needing an emergency help. But that day they found themselves
needing assistance here. He said, one of our dispatchers was
coming in for work and was accosted by mister Nickerson
when she was trying to get inside the building. Authority
say both the women coming into work in the dispatcher
who tried to help are now healing from wounds, both
visible and invisible. He said, they did the same some

(33:30):
serious bodily injury, and certainly there's emotional damage coming to
work every day knowing this is where the act happened.
Sheriff committed the dispatchers for the bravery. Nickerson appeared pleaded
not guilty to several charges, including assault, criminal threatening, and
false imprisonment. I'm certain he was following his lawyer's advice
along those lines. But it's a dispatch office, and like

(33:51):
every single square inch of the world these days, you
might imagine, yes, they have a ton of video of
this incident. All right, as your sack is stupid for
a Friday, let us move on. We're gonna do tech
Friday at six thirty. As I mentioned, private citizen, what
happened earlier this week with that Amazon cloud outage which

(34:14):
actually impacted us to a certain degree. How do you
create a good password? Sound advice from Dave Hatter in
that one, and Hacker's using artificial intelligence going to crime spree.
Private citizen brad Winsterp returns to the fifty five kr
SES studio at seven o five. You get a full
hour with the former congressman and get his thoughts and
ideas about the closure, among other topics, plus waging war
in South America and Donald Trump now maybe considering land

(34:38):
to targets and also stating out loud that he does
not need congressional approval to start waging war on land.
H Okay, you know, I'm a fan of Donald Trump's policies,
but just because he says it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.
I'm not quite sure where brad winstrip is on that,
but we'll talk to him about it coming up in
an hour. Sarah Herringer, god lover of course, the widow

(35:01):
of Patrick Herringer, who was stabbed in front of her
died in her arms in their apartment and over the
rye find out that ankle monitors aren't worth the wealthy
the words ankle monitor, let alone keeping track of criminals
who've been let out of prison with an ankle monitor.
We'll get the latest on the Patrick Herringer legislation, and
we're her thoughts on what's going on with downtown crime wise,
and as we've ast approached the election parenthetically since artificial

(35:25):
I mentioned artificial intelligence in the morning because I was
thinking about Dave Hatter coming up, and I had these
illustrations again of idiot lawyers and now judges using AI
and not checking their work, submitting briefs and opinions and
posting them online when they came complete fabrications. I just
wanted to give you a quick illustration of that, because
if you're using chat GPT, you really have to be careful.

(35:46):
I've tried it a few times, just notably for humor,
like I had to churn out some songs related to
Greta Thunberg and things like that, and it's brilliant. If
you want some comedy in your world, fine have it.
Do that, but don't rely on it for important things.
And so I had a fundraiser for Corey Bowman. Then
I was introducing Coreyatt. Happened last week in Wyoming, and
God blessed the Wyoming folks who are very interested in

(36:08):
the outcome of that election, knowing full well that the
city of Cincinnati impacts their neighborhood. So I thought to myself,
you know what, I've never I don't really read introductions.
I typically don't even prepare notes, kind of stream of consciousness,
kind of like the morning show. You know, sometimes I'm
on my game and sometimes I'm not. But I thought,
you know what, I'll tell you what I'm gonna ask
chat GPT to prepare an introduction. Here's the way I

(36:30):
phrased the indo chat GPT provide an introductory speech for
mayoral So I'm sorry, Cincinnati mayoral candidate Corey Bowman at
a fundraiser in his honor, incorporating elements of his platform
and personal background. That's as close to a quote as
I can give you. What I fed into it. It

(36:50):
spit out three pages of lies. It got the wrong
high school he went to. It didn't have the right college.
They did not have the right degree. They did not
accurately describe positions he has held or his work. They
described him as a community activist. I'm thinking they didn't
even mention that he's a minister is a divinity degree,

(37:14):
and then the platform parts were hilarious. I bet you
didn't know this. Corey Bummen is campaigning on all green
he's a green energy candidate. Really also diversity, equity, inclusion
all in there. I'm serious. What it did churn out
was something that really really looked like a have to

(37:35):
have provoll platform stuff, so don't rely on it. And
fortunately I know Corey well enough and I knew the
lies as soon as I read him for the first time,
so be careful. Yesterday the Democrats said no, screw you,
military and essential workers were not going to pay you.
Democrats blocked a Shutdown Fairness Act of twenty twenty five.
Ron Johnson sponsored it fifty four to forty five vote.

(37:57):
You had a few Democrats voting for it, itors osof Warnock,
and of course John Fetterman, who's seemingly more and more
seen every single day. That legislation would have paid service
members and employees determined by agency heads to be accepted
from the shutdown because they're performing emergency work.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
It would have included three hundred congressional employees US Capitol
police who've been working to keep the Senate open while
they babble on the Senate floor for twenty three out
of twenty two hours and thirty seven minutes. Jeff Berkley, Democrat,
would have guarantee pay for federal workers on duty throughout
the shutdown, including air traffic controllers, check Transportation Secretary Administration agents,
park rangers, federal law enforcement, immigration customs officers, and border

(38:38):
patrol agents. They would have been paid. Democrats said, no,
screw you guys. Now tell me if you can rationalize this,
like Chucky Schumer did. He said, quote it, referring to
the bill, it's nothing more than another tool for Trump
to hurt federal workers and American families and to keep
the shutdown going on for as long as he wants.

(38:59):
We will not give I know, we will not give
Donald Trump a license to play politics with people's livelihoods.
That's why we oppose this. What is it the elephant
in the room in the background of that statement, the
entire shutdown, which does not make it. Amen, Joe Stracker,

(39:20):
thank you. Then I pivot over to Kimberly Strassel. Excellent observations.
Kim Strassell, the ugliest after the showdown, which makes some
great points in her op ed piece, Thank you Wall
Street Journals Kimberly Strassel. Two years ago, Saturday, the US
House voted to end a modern day crisis. Oh my god,
twenty one days without a speaker of the House. The
chaos marked a new low, and institutional governments ah for

(39:42):
the good old days. At dawna on Washington this week
that the unforeseen consequence of the prolonged shutdown, gridlock, is
gonna be Yes, more gridlock, then the current funding crisis
is to create a new funding crisis. Democrats have now
guaranteed that Rome is burning, not that the shutdown is
ending soon. Minority Leader Chucky shim since his lifetime employment
within his reach. He's a progressive hero and a certain

(40:04):
nihilism is swept his caucus. Some Senate Democrats voted for
the twelfth time this to keep the government shut down
this week and yesterday again, as I just pointed out,
voted to deny checks to troops and essential federal workers
like air traffic controllers. Every day gets better for Democrats,
mister Schumer exalts that's questionable, though things are getting decidedly

(40:27):
worse for most everyone else. Despite the Trump administration's effort
to mitigate showdown shut down harm. Emergency measures are hitting
the wall. Federal workforce, including Senate staffers, miss their first
full paycheck this week. Military and House staffers get stiffed
next week. States are starting to cut food stamps for
forty one million Americans. Head Start will soon run out
of money. In air traffic control sick outs are beginning

(40:48):
to snarl air travel. Optimists point to a possible November
first off ramps, since that's the end of too many
federal food benefits. That date happens to also marked the
end of the entire stated Democrat rationale for the shutdown,
the need to extend and hance Obamacare's subsidies before insurers

(41:08):
on the exchange begin to open enrollment.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Between that loss cause and all the attention the left
has managed to focus on how broken Obamacare is in general,
you might think that the good day to bail out,
but no. Democrats now think a continued shutdown drama might
drive base turnout in of course, the ever fourth elections
in Virginia and New Jersey, or maybe win that California
redistricting referendum, or ruin Donald Trump's Thanksgiving or something. A

(41:35):
big consequence is already here. The length of this shutdown
has shattered whatever plans Congress both sides had for an
orderly exit from the impass and that means that what
comes next could prove to be as messy as what
we have now. House to cr past September nineteenth design
to keep the government running until November twenty first, which
is supposed to give Congress eight weeks to work through

(41:56):
the fiscal year appropriations. But every day that passes makes
the resolution of that resolution more of a dead letter
and adds to the elusiveness of a deal. Senate Republicans
have tied to the progress chief Appropriators Susan Collins and
Patty Murray, who have made fiscal twenty twenty six bills.
But those bills, this being the Senate, spend tens of

(42:18):
billions more than House Republicans will tolerate, and don't expect
Speaker Mike Johnson to end this career and his career
by turning to Democrats to jam those bills through. Nobody
is rubber stamping anything yet there's no time for a
House Senate conference. Pressure is building on Johnson to bring
the House back to a start. A prospect almost as

(42:39):
appealing as a root canal, She writes, by this point,
there's no guarantee he can pass another Continuing resolution, no
guarantee on what one would look like, and no optimism
it would produce a result. Democrats so thoroughly in a
tantrum mode that last week they refused to provide sixty
votes for a single popular funding bill, the Annual Defense

(42:59):
approbe Creations Bill, which in July get a load of
This passed twenty six to three out of committee, bipartisan.
I guess it is, will they vote on it? No,
even if they end the shutdown, will they agree to
any full year funding that doesn't give them everything they want,
including wild Obamacare subsidies? Rhetorical question. This has some Republicans

(43:24):
now arguing for a full year CR one that gets
Congress passed next year's midterms. But this would lock the
GOP into another year of Joe Biden's spending levels, starve
the military, and infuriate House conservatives who were promised an
end to government by Continuing resolution or omnibus bills. And
that's before the appropriation appropriators throw a fit over losing

(43:47):
their precious ear marks. The situation is stalemated enough to
have some GOP members floating the ill considered idea of
killing the filibuster for appropriations. That move would rescue Democrats
from the show down morass, even as Republicans did the
lefts dirty work making the real left dream of ending
the Senate's best institutional check, the sixty vote threshold. The

(44:11):
next Democratic Congress would take that GOP president and run
with it, killing the filibuster to impose gun control, federalized
voting rules, open borders, and blow the bank. She concludes
shutdowns of the byproduct of Washington dysfunction. But Democrats and
transience in this one. Their indifference to convention or consequence

(44:32):
in their drive to impose their demands on a country
that they lost in the last election is the unfortunate
evidence that dysfunction can always get worse. What's worse than
a shutdown in this case maybe what comes after excellent
points Kimberly Strassel. I think we find ourselves right square

(44:53):
in the middle of what would be described in the
military as a Charlie foxtrot six sixteen right now fifty
five K talk Station twenty two three Route forty two
between Mason and Lebanon and Garcini talk station. So happy
it's Friday. I'm coming tomorrow, David. He'll be there in spirit,

(45:13):
not his alma mater anyhow, five three seven ywo three
talk real quick here. I mentioned the bombing going well,
the bombing of the cartel boats. Yesterday, Donald Trump suggested
they're going to take it to the land.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Land is going to be next, and he doesn't necessarily
intend to seek a declaration of war. So, of course
we've been blowing up what they go fast boats as speedboats,
allegedly with drugs on them, containing allegedly Narco terrorists. No
real confirmation on that. I know the Venezuelan government can't
be trusted and they say that, well, no, we blew
up a fishing boat in one case. Don't know, don't

(45:53):
have the facts. Personally, I can't comment on that, And
people who listen to the show regularly know my feelings
about bombing people randomly outside the territory of waters in
the United States of America. International waters is where that's
going on, anyway. Trumps told reporters yesterday, well, I don't
think we're gonna necessarily ask for a declaration of war.
I think we're just gonna kill people that are bringing

(46:15):
drugs into our country. Okay, we're gonna kill them. Close quote,
And I guess I kind of one for those who
think this is a great idea? Is it a great
idea because Trump's doing it? And would you be comfortable if,
let's say it was President Barack Obama doing this, Not
that that would ever happen, I don't think, but just
try to put yourself in that position if you would

(46:36):
be approving of these kind of measures. Anyway, of course,
we've killed nearly forty people. A couple of them survive.
Two people on the submarine that we blew up survive.
They've been repatriated. So Trump said, now the drugs are
coming in by land. You know the land is going
to be next, which he has previously suggested before, mentioning

(46:58):
land operations. And I note that he just sent B
one somebody sent B one bombers, our B one bombers
near Venezuela just yesterday. B one bombers. Those are the
big ones. I didn't realize they can carry up the
seventy five thousand pounds of bombs. That's a lot of
payload right there. Anyway, obviously stepping up our military presidence.

(47:20):
We've got all kinds of folks down there, eight warships,
a submarine, a P eight maritime patrol, aircraft MQ nine reaper, drones,
F thirty five fighter squadrons, and now of course B
one bombers. Huge show of force for the drug cartels.
Venezuelan President Nicholas muduro I thought this was comical, speaking yesterday,

(47:44):
warning that if the United States ever intervened in the country,
here we go ready quote, the working class would rise
and a general insurrectional strike would be declared in the
streets until power is regained, also interjecting that millions of
men and women with rifles would march across the country

(48:06):
close quote. I think that means from his perspective that
we're going to roll in troops into it as well.
I think Donald Trump will probably just go with the
drone strike kind of B one bomber drop or something
else on wherever these drugs are being manufactured, wherever he
figures out that the narco terrorists are sitting kind of
like we just knock off heads of Hamas or Israel

(48:27):
does anyway or other you know, dangerous terrorist leaders around
the country, find the head of the snake and blow
it up. But my reaction to this statement about millions
of men and women with rifles would march across the country.
I think the follow up to that should have been
and overthrow the Maduro regime. It would create an opportunity

(48:47):
for a coup. Anyway, tech fire to a day of Hatter.
He'll be up next if we can stick around for that.
And I'm recommending you get in touch with my friends
at Plumb Tight Plumbing. If you have a business, I'm
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system with intrust dot com. Dave Hatter, thank you for

(49:10):
your company, what you do. The business career says you
guys are the best in the business, and I salute
you for that acknowledgment and what you're doing to keep
people out of trouble every single day, and for coming
on the program every Friday at this time and get
passing out some good advice. Welcome back, my friend.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
It's always my pleasure, Brian. You know, I always hope
you're doing some good out there and helping people have
a waid all of the digital pitfalls that we increasingly
see every.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Day well, and the pitfalls that result in problems for
us when say, Amazon's cloud goes out. We were interrupted
in to a certain degree when that happened on Monday here. Yeah, yeah,
well not catastrophically so, but we did have some problems.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
It goes to show. So you know, if you look
at the stats, and you can get stats anywhere, you've
got three. There are lots of cloud providers out there,
but you have three big players. Amazon is the number
one in market chair with Amazon web Services. A lot
of people don't even realize they're in this business, right
They think of Amazon as essentially an online retailer. They're
into all kinds of things, but a big part of

(50:09):
their revenue comes from Amazon Web Services, which is a
cloud platform that you can leverage as a business to
outsource services you would have had to provide internally yourself
in the past. Like you don't need servers anymore. You
can put your services, your software, whatever else you might
need in the Amazon web Services cloud. I've seen stats

(50:30):
anywhere between. They have thirty to forty percent of that market.
Microsoft is the next biggest player in the clouds. Now
Microsoft hasts them to call it Azure. They've got other
stuff like Microsoft thirty sixty five, but Azure would be
the closest to Amazon Web Services generally speaking. Then you've
got Google Cloud kind of bringing up the third third
space there probably similar size to Microsoft, maybe a little

(50:53):
bit less. And then there are other players, but you've
got a lot of concentration. It's called concentration risk, and
these three big players. Now, I am generally a fan
of the cloud. There's no doubt in my mind that
if you know what you're doing and you can figure
things correctly, you can actually be more secure using these
services than you're on prem You can have less complexity,

(51:14):
but there is a different type of risk. You've got
this concentration risk of a few very large players, and
if something happens to them, you go down. You also
have you know, third party risk. When it does go down,
it knocks out all kinds of things you know. Well,
Amazon Web Services was out for roughly around fifteen hours
in total. It brought down all kinds of other services

(51:36):
from things like roadblocks to zoom to Internet of Things devices.
I don't know if you saw, Brian, like some Sleep
number beds stop working correctly and interestingly enough, Yeah, crazy right,
because you need your bed connected to the internet.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Of course, I have a sleep Number bed. It does
not have Internet access, and I'm trying to figure out
why in the hell would anybody need a sleep number
bed with it's an internet access. That's blank a crazy day.
I'm sorry, you know, you know.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I agree with you, old heart of the I'm bash
on the Internet of things so called smart devices all
the time.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Let me change setting to ninety five from ninety from
here in the studio because it's so important that I
can adjust the mattress setting from elsewhere pod.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Yeah, it's also so important for them to be able
to collect all the information about, you know, the state
of your bed, whatever that might mean at any given time.
I'm sure that could be helpful to you. But nevertheless,
you know, they were down for a fairly extended period
of time. It's not the first time they've been down.
It's not like this hasn't happened to other cloud providers either,

(52:35):
So again, I'm I In general, I think the cloud
still makes sense for many businesses in many use cases. However,
you have to understand the third party risk that it
brings along. Again, people playing roadblocks suddenly are down because
roadblocks host some of their capabilities through aws. And the
bigger point to me is that it illustrates as a

(52:59):
business you have to understand the idea of third party
risk in general. Anytime you're outsourcing anything to a third party,
there's some risk there. You can build systems, even in
the cloud that would be more resilient, less likely to
go down, right, And you could even argue that when
these large providers go down versus you want you have
something on prim down or some small provider. You know,

(53:21):
when you have hundreds or thousands of businesses out there's
an enormous amount of pressure to get that back up very.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
And they've got a well oiled team in house to
deal with those things on an emergency basis too, I imagine.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
So again, I don't think this should necessarily be an
indication that people should turn away from the cloud, but
I do think you need it as a business. You
need to understand the risk, and you know you can
spend more money, you can build more resilient systems to
make sure that doesn't happen. It does, though, however, point
out to me that we have to continually be thinking
as a society about how can we build things that

(53:54):
are more resilient and more robust and less likely to
go down, because you know that I've seen experts estimate
that that will cost anywhere between ten billion to one
hundred billion that outage across all of the different businesses
that were impacted by it, and you know that what
the downtime did to them, and you know, they pointed Amazon.
So far everything I've seen no indication of a cyber attack.

(54:16):
It looks like it was DNS, a domain name system
issue that it got into something called a race condition
where each system is sort of fighting with the other system.
It brought things down and you know, internally, which then
started to impact the services that rely on these Amazon
web services. So it's really interesting how it went down.

(54:36):
I'm sure they'll, you know, do lots of post mortems
and after action reports and that particular thing won't happen again.
But it does show you just how interconnected our society is,
a reliant we are on these things, and how a yes,
why does your smart device need to be smart and
need to be connected to all these other things so
that you have these physical impacts in the real world.

(54:59):
And then you know, we just got to get serious
about building systems that are less likely to have this happen.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Amen to that good question about it, let's pause, bring
it back for some solid sound information I can use.
How do you create a good password? I think you
justised forty here fifty five kr CEV talk station, Happy Friday,
tech front of me. Dave had our interest I dot
com to find Dave and the team for your business
computer needs. Uh, real solid advice we're gonna get in
this segment. You've been a big fan of letting my

(55:27):
listeners know about how to you know, you need a
strong password password manager? Uh, and you people just apparently
haven't gotten the memo, Dave. You know, password one is
not a good password. Everybody has used it in the past.
That's the first thing these you know, computer generated search
you know, password destructors or whatever the hell you call
those things. They're going to try to randomly guess your password.
They're going to start with the easy, stupid ones that

(55:49):
people apparently still use. Right, Dave, everything you said is right, Brian,
because I'm listen to you.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Add to that further that as computers get more powerful,
it's faster to guess more passwords more quickly.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Right.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
An organization called Hive puts out a chart every year
that shows you how long it would take to crack
a password, from like four characters that are all numbers
out to eighteen characters that include letters, numbers, upper and
lowercase symbols, And it goes anywhere from basically instantaneous to

(56:26):
four hundred and sixty three quinn trillion years once you
get to that eighteen character linked that has upper and
lowercase symbols and numbers and letters.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
So I'm good going with a sixteen character that contains
not only fake words that are made up by me,
but also a whole variety of symbols and letters and
numbers and caps and lowercase than that.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing I get. Most people,
unless they have a password manager, have no way to
manage that. And NIST is the National Institute of Standards
and Technology. They're the ones that originally came up with
all of these password rules, like you should change your
passwords every ninety days and stuff like that right, and
over time, as they've seen how people behave and what

(57:08):
sort of attacks are effective, they've changed their guidance. Okay,
so they just recently put out some new guidance, thus
prompting us to talk about it today. And you know,
I'll post this in my notes, but this is from
this how do I create a good password? And what
else can I do to secure my online accounts? So
you'll see they give a lot of the same advice
you and I have been giving on this show now

(57:29):
for a long time. They talk about some of the
things like again you mentioned password one. You know, every year,
based on the billions of records that get stolen and
leaked online on the dark web for bad guys to use,
you see the same bad patterns people keep using the
same bad passwords, so hackers don't even need to try

(57:50):
to crack the things. They will often just go for
the low hanging fruit because they know many people will
use one of several bad passwords, and they'll use the
same bad password across multiple accounts. So you know, it
might not be password, it might be password with an
ad sign and an exclamation point because you want.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
To be extra security signs.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah, the bad guys know this, right, they know all
of this. But even if you're not doing something like that,
then they can use these programs that can literally generate,
you know, millions of tries a second until they eventually
land on your password. This mist article talks about all
of that, but the bottom line, right, and they again

(58:34):
they touch on all kinds of topics, password manager, multi
facture authentication, you know, the best advice And they say, well,
right here from this mist article, they say adding a
second character increases that number to twenty six times twenty six.
So they're talking about the link and then the permutations, right,
the number of times you would have to guess a
password to get it. So they say an a character

(58:56):
password would take about two hundred billion guesses. Okay, but
then they go on to say modern laptop can comfortably
generate one hundred billion guesses per second, so I was
way under my estimate. So eight characters is not very
secure at all. Then they go on to say they
recommend that your passwords should be at least fifteen characters.
At one hundred billion guesses per second, it would take

(59:18):
a computer more than five hundred years to guess all
the possible combinations of just fifteen lower case letters. Now,
if you throw in upper case letters, symbols, and numbers,
it's basically uncrackable because instead of twenty six permutations right
the twenty six characters the alphabet, add in ten numbers,
add in like another twenty symbols. It basically becomes uncrackable.

(59:41):
But they know that people can't remember fifty or one
hundred different random passwords like that, so they suggest that
you use a passphrase, same thing we've been saying for
a long time. Come up with something that's at least
eighteen characters long and just a random phrase. Pick three
different words that only you would know, easy to remember,

(01:00:02):
easy to type, Longer is better if you throw some
symbols into it, like the example they give here is cassette,
lava baby. It's just totally nonsensible, right, But if you,
let's say, replace the e's with threes or maybe the
a's with ad signs, you've added some more randomness to
it that is essentially uncrackable. But again, the focus is

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on the link. The link is the most important attribute,
and of course that it's not guessable or known to
someone else. And then you know any randomization by swapping
some characters out adding numbers or symbols is a plus.
But they're saying eighteen characters, and then they do say, yeah,
use a password manager, because if you have a strong

(01:00:44):
unique pass phrase on your password manager coupled with MFA
and it's a quality password manager that uses zero knowledge encryption,
you're basically going to be like the Rocket Gibraltar or
Fort Knox compared to the average person who isn't using
a password manager, who doesn't have eighteen character passphrases and
is using the same bad passwords across multiple accounts. So again,

(01:01:06):
this isn't Dave Hatter's opinion. This is the federal government
organization that's responsible for creating these guidelines that everyone follows anyway,
telling you exactly what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
See, you just knocked the recommendation down a notche. I
trust you, Dave Haddie, more than I trust something from
the federal government. Six forty six right now coming up,
hackers using artificial intelligence siguanne a cyber crime spree eh
another version of that top JASHI six to fifty one
to fifty five KARSDI talk station one more segment in

(01:01:37):
trust It Dot COM's Dave Hatter Dave hackers using artificial
intelligence shocking, no one. What's this one all about?

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Yeah, not at all surprising, Brian. You know, this is
something we've talked about off and on for a long time.
In particular, I just I want to keep reiterating with
people it is trivially easy and free or a bad
guy or a bad girl out there, bad actor, if
you will, to go online find a site where they

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can clone a voice and deep fake someone. So when
you get a message or even possibly a live call
from someone that you think you know, your son, your wife,
your boss, whome ever, it could easily be a deep
fake voice clone. People say, well, how would you get
in my voice if I call your phone? Do you
have voicemail greeting? Well, I can clone you in less

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than fifteen minutes. So that's just one angle. I'd like
to keep reiterating that that's not what this is about,
because I don't think people believe it until they see
it themselves, and I have demonstrated many times you can
do that. This is an article came from NBC and
it's basically based on a story from Anthropic. They're one
of the larger AI players, and they said in a

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report that they published on their website about their AI
tool claude quote used AI to what we believe is
an unpressed degree unquote. This is from their report to
hack and extort at least seventeen companies. This is the
first documented instance of this. I'm just kind of skimming

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over this article because they have a few interesting points.
And then from this blog post from Anthropic about their
own tool, right, they said that the guy whoever used
this created Malicia's software to steal sensitive information from companies.
He used it to target specific companies that had particular
vulnerabilities where this software that was created by the AI

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bot could be used. Right, It had flaws he could exploit,
and then it organized the hacked files, analyzed them to
tell him like what information was sensitive, and then could
be used to try to extort the victim. So basically,
first off, I guess kudos to the creativity of the
hacker who was able to realize that you could use

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this tool to do all of these things, because you know,
it's one thing to be to have the skill to
do these things yourself. It's another to be which would
be difficult. By the way it's another to go, Okay,
I'm going to use some AI tool like Claude or chat,
GPT or rock or something to help me find companies
that have vulnerabilities, write software that can exploit those vulnerabilities,

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analyze the data that I've captured, and then figure out
how to go after them for the money. Because here's
information sensitive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
So you're asking your artificial intelligence to sort of operate
a criminal enterprise and explain and break down how to
do that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Essentially, Yeah, I mean you're getting advice and guidance and
possibly even you know, software or at least snippets of
software from this tool that you're then using to defraud
someone else. You know. Now they're saying, this appears to
be someone outside the US. It happen over the span
of three months. And suppose that all these tools have

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capabilities to prevent people from using them in you know,
criminal or at least unethical ways.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
You may hear the term jail breaking, the idea that
you can break out of the core functionality of something.
Apparently this individual was able to do that. It's just
it's interesting, and I have been warning for a long time.
You know, I don't think certainly these large language based
large language model based generative AI tools like Claude are

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going to wipe us out or take all the jobs
anytime soon. And even though you hear about layoffs and
so forth, there are more and more stories coming out
showing the limitations of these oh they and so forth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Dave, real quick here, I did an introduct introduction of
Corey Bowman at a fundraiser last week, and just just
to see how it worked, I said the chat GPT
and this is pretty close to what I typed in
prepare an introductory speech for Cincinnati mayoral candidate Corey Bowman
at a fundraiser in his honor, incorporating elements of his
platform and his personal life. It was basically three pages

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of all erroneous information, wrong schools, right degrees, wrong jobs.
His platform was something out of a left wing you know,
sort of moist dream, if you know what I mean.
It had nothing to do with him at all. So
if you didn't know Corey Bowman, he let it spit
the information out you to look like a complete idiot
standing in front of the Crown reading. And now I
had no intention of reading, because people know that I don't.

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I rarely ever read it. At when I'm doing MC's
and facilitations like that. But I just wanted to see
what it looked like, and it was. I brought it
to him. I said, hey, here's what chat GPT has
to say about you. It's really funny. Don't rely on it,
Dave Hatter, God bless you an interest It for sponsoring
this segment, keeping us on the right path. Listen to
what Dave has to say. He's not here to steer
you wrong. He's here to keep you out of trouble.

(01:06:39):
And of course, interest It dot com to each Dave
and the crew for your personal or your business needs
with computers. Dave, we'll do this again next Friday. I
appreciate you willingness to come on the show and talk
about these matters and for sponsoring the segment.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Always my pleasure, Brian. I will look forward to talking
to you next Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Take Karen, have a great weekend. Brother six fifty six,
right now in studio, he's already here, citizen Brad Weinster,
a former congressman. He's got a few questions to talk
or a few answers to the questions we've got. We'll
start with the government shutdown. Why not be right back.
Today's top headlines coming up seven oh six on a Friday,

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and a very happy one to you, Brian Downas right
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great advice that one hour from now, Sarah Herringer will
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we'll get the latest on the Patrick Herringer legislation. I
know you know who Sarah is, but a reminder to
the extent you don't have the widow of Patrick Herringer,

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who is stabbed to death in there over the Rhine
apartment in front of her. He died in her arms,
and I just I cannot imagine the horror of having
to live through that. Sarah has been on the program before.
We're gonna hope she's getting closer to the goal of
getting Patrick Herringer legislation passed. Will also get her a
thought about what's going on in downtown Cincinnati in the
meantime without further ado in studio, I'm staring at him

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former congressman now private citizen Brad Winster, Welcome back, my friend.
It's always great having you here.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
It's always a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Brian, you lived it you as congressman. You've been through
this before. You remember shutdowns before, don't you? Yeah? I do,
I do all too well. Yeah, got him resolved in
the past. This one seems to be a horse of
a different color, because I think it's just it's insanity.
I mean, what is going on now makes absolutely no sense.
And did the extend anybody who is paying attention to this,

(01:08:38):
I don't mean this the idea of the concept of
who's gonna win the blame game? Right, who's gonna get
blamed for the shutdown? It seems to me the focus
of everything, well, in this particular case, to the extate
you care, how could the Democrats escape absolute ownership of
this shutdown? The Republicans cleared the deck of any argument

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that might have by passing that clean continued resolution keeping
funding levels under the Biden era funding levels that the
Democrats fought for. So here, guys, we've got that. Let's
keep the government funded at your level until we get
this situation resolved. The twelve Appropriations bills, So they got
an end date of what is it November? Is it
twenty first or something in the legislation, it's it's fast approaching.

(01:09:24):
So as I read Kimberly Strassel did an analysis of this,
you know, TikTok, TikTok. Are they really going to be
able to accomplish anything even if they get this clean
CR pass in the Senate, which does not look likely yesterday,
wouldn't even vote to pay military and f and air
traffic controllers. Just keep them paid while we work out
this mess. No, no, no, And I can read you

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what Chuckie Schumer said, because it makes no sense whatsoever.
Chuckie Schumer called giving the the Capitol police and ice
agents and federal certain congressional employees, the air traffic controllers,
the park ring, federal law enforcement people that are critical.
Nobody's denying this. People that are still essential workers. They're

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working without a paycheck, so let's just give them their paycheck. No,
said Democrats, and Chuckie Schumer. Quota is saying it, meaning
the bill nothing more than another tool for Trump to
hurt federal workers and American families and to keep this
shutdown going on for as long as he wants. We
will not give Donald Trump a license to play politics
with people's livelihoods. That's why we oppose this. Does that

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make any sense to you consider what was proposed, Not
at all.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
It's exactly the opposite. He makes two cases and they
contradict each other. He said, this is a tool to
hurt people. It's a tool to pay people. I don't
think anyone ever feels hurt when they get paid, do you, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
No, absolutely, it's an expectation, honestly right.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
And he says this is a tool to hurt the
American people in what way? And that's the other thing.
He makes these comments, and no one says, how is
paying people hurting?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
And no one asked that more fundamentally, paying people who
are still working. This isn't somebody who's non essential in
sitting at home contemplating their navel or playing you know,
candy Crush or whatever on their app These are people
that are actually going on and most notably some of
the hardest work that's being done. ICE agents on the
front line are of essentially like in the middle of
a combat zone and they're there and they're not getting paid.

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Now we all know that it's just accruing and that
they will get paid once the government opens up, if
it does. But how about getting these very very loyal
and valuable people paid right now.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
Especially them, because you do have people that are sitting
at home, not by their own desire, but they are.
And what always happens in one of these shutdowns is
you retrospectively, you pay them, and you pay them for
not working for a month or however long it last. Yes,
I went through this in thirteen. You know, I thought
we were on the right side of things. Yeah, shut
down the government. Well you find out pretty quickly how

(01:11:53):
even your friends and loyal constituents are upset because of
services they can't get, if they need their pay, sport
to go travel, if they have a problem with Social Security,
the irs and all these things are shut down, and
you learn you start opening them up. And so this
is what they're trying to do here, right, Let's open
up this. Let's just open this up right now and
pay these people. And he says, no, I don't know.

(01:12:16):
This is a bizarre time in American history. And I
hope that enough people understand what is taking place here
because this is the mentality of like an AOC, you
expect comments like that, sure out of AOC, because that's
who and what she has been.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
And you don't really, at least historically up until recent history,
you wouldn't expect that out of a guy like Chuck.

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
Schumer, Right, But now his back is against the wall,
right because AOC is I'm going to run for Senate.
I'm going to I might run for Senate. And then
he knows this, and so he has to out AOC AOC.
So he's capitulated to the far left wing of the party.
If Chucky Schumer will say previously, I guess comparatively to

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now a voice of reason, I mean, that's hard to
come out of my mouth. Well, it's called his prior
position within the Democratic Party somewhat reasonable, maybe in the center.
He is now at least acknowledging his capitulation to this
far left wing. So there is no more practical centrist
right side of the eighty twenty issue Democrats anymore. No,

(01:13:22):
it doesn't see maybe a betterment, yeah, exactly, and probably
the last person we thought who would be there. No,
it's you know, you just never know what you're going
to get, right, Yeah, but it's it's very interesting that
they're just carrying this on and the shutdown is the way.
And you know, people have got to understand, especially those
that are suffering from this, need to say, like why

(01:13:44):
are you doing this? Not only that you said something
when you open this up, it's the Biden era policies
that are still in place, you know, and Republicans want
to go through normal appropriations process where the government is
a function, as our founder said, set it up that
we the people are going to determine what we spend
money on, et cetera, et cetera, and said, continuing resolution

(01:14:07):
just keeps ongoing what's already in place without a discussion. Basically, right,
you're not going to fix things that need to be fixed.
You're not going to get rid of things that don't
need to be there, which.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Is why Massy voted no on it because it didn't
contain cuts. He wanted substantial cuts in the CR and
the Republicans said collectively, as a chess game strategy, no, no, no, no,
we're going to keep that. We're not going to give
them any reason to complain. It's their level. I get
the math and the strategy for doing that. I'm obviously
with Massy on wishing that there were some cuts in

(01:14:37):
the cr but we're not getting either. So this doesn't mean.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
Well, we all wish there were cuts. I mean, but
we're living with a government today and in America today
where they're a large swath of America really doesn't care
that we're going into more debt. I mean, one of
the things I always tried to say, when you look
at any bill is will this bill make Americans more free?
And will the next generation say thanks you? And when

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you putting the next generation in further and further debt,
how would they possibly say thank you? And that's where
that's where Thomas is and I get that, but strategically,
because half of America is that way. If you want
to get anything done and say that you have a
government that can actually function on behalf of the American people,

(01:15:22):
you have to keep it open. And so you think, okay,
let's continue these debates. But the thing is they're arguing
about the subsidies for insurance companies that aren't making anyone
else healthier.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
I mean, that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
It's just insurance companies while it's getting healthier, And that's
what they're arguing for that they want to keep those
subsidies going when you know, this is just an entity
that denies and delays your care anyway. It's not like
those subsidies suddenly make America healthier, you know, make America
healthy again, right right, healthiest nation on the planet is

(01:15:58):
we were calling it before Maha ca around. Well, you
know this is this is absurd. And not only that,
the CR continues those subsidies for the time being.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
What what what are you fighting for? The expiration date
is this year. Based upon the Democrats legislation, they put
the end date for the subsidies this counter year, December.
They own that they can't deny it. They saw this
coming for miles and miles away. They presumed that this
current president would not be president. They presumed that their

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guy or gals the case may be last minute, which
was going to take over office, that Democrats would regain
retain control, and that they would then vote in these
subsidies as permanent. It didn't work out the way they
thought it was going to work out, but they still
own the end date. Let's deliver on it, and they
sold it as we need to do this because of COVID.
COVID a great point and needed to be made seven

(01:16:54):
fifteen right now, more with Citizen Private Citizen Brad weinsterup
on more topics. We'll talk to the ceasefire agreement, We'll
talk about the mainstream media. We got a variety of
other things to speak of. Stick around for the full
hour fifty five krc the Toxication seven nineteen's if you
got KRCD talk station Happy Friday made extra special. Happy

(01:17:15):
Private Citizen Brad Winster, former Congressman, in studio going through
the issues. He's been there, done that, and speaks from
authority and knowledge about the craziness that's going on real
quick here insofar as the shutdown. Who's getting paid? Who's
not getting paid? Question for your congressman former Congressman winsor
is the CIA getting paid. We don't even know how
much money they get every year. I don't if they're

(01:17:37):
carved out. They're so secret. We don't even know what
the American taxpayer spends running that organization. I bet they're
getting paid. I'm just saying that you don't have to comment,
mister security level clearance guy, if you can't speak to it, but.

Speaker 6 (01:17:50):
Well, I will say that where that is done, and
this is a unique situation for sure, as far as
who's getting paid what, and what we're spending money on,
and for good reason that is held you know, you
have that is held in the IAA. That's the Intelligence
Authorization Act, which is secret.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Well it is, there's.

Speaker 6 (01:18:07):
Covert operations, there's various things in there and then it
and usually that ends up being very bipartisan, and it's bipartisan.
Members of the Intelligence Committee, sure that talked to the
other members of Congress and explain what the spending.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Is in remind every member of Congress and all the
elected officials that yes, the CIA does indeed have a
dossier on each and every one of them, and your
damn well better approve their budget and what they asked
for or they're going to leak the information out to
the general public. I've heard suggestions along those lines before.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Well, there certainly has been some nefarious behavior, especially as
it related to January sixth, and you've seen a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Lot of that coming out there.

Speaker 6 (01:18:48):
Edgar Hoover days, yea, the senators being investigated, and you know,
I will say that what has happened is is I
hope continues at least in my time on Intelligence Committee,
which I was on till I left in January we're
now going into the intelligence community. I think when I
first started on that committee, you would have briefs and

(01:19:10):
they would just come in and tell you stuff. And
now it's like, no, no, no, we're telling you stuff.
We want to work with you, and we want to
approve what you're doing, and we want to know fully
what you're doing. And you don't just get to come
in here and say this is our policy and blah
blah blah. No, we have oversight over you, and it's

(01:19:30):
being much more active than it ever was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Good. It's good that you're certainly oversight role because that's
what you've been elected to do. This is our money,
it's what we pay for. Are they doing things efficiently?
Are they answering the right questions? Are they hiding? Are
they committing to farious acts behind the scenes. I think
we should all be entitled to know that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Brad Well, we started fencing money, Brian, because when they
weren't telling us what we wanted to know. And this
has to do with COVID and for example, the origins
of COVID and the commission that Biden put out, and
they came and said, it's our policy not to tell
you who we talked to, and I said, no, no, no, Now,
this is our government. I just want you to know

(01:20:10):
you don't get to put a policy in place like that.
And the reaction was the Director of National Intelligence called
me two hours later because I said, by the way,
we created your agency and we fund your agency. So
she called me right away, and I'll never forget when
I got some of the information I wanted. She said,
do I get my ten million now? Because we started
holding money back. Oh, so it's not all bad. We're

(01:20:34):
sometimes doing some things to improve the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
All right, Well there's my I got my problems with
the CIA out of my system on that one. So
over to where do you want to go on this irs, Well,
we were going to talk pease fire.

Speaker 6 (01:20:49):
Yeah, just you know, and it can blend into a
lot of things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Donald tru Abraham accords, I don't care about the Bibel
Peace Prize, but someone's going to qualify a guy for
the Nobel Peace Prizes. It's negotiating peace with formerly basically
warring Middle East countries and in Israel for centuries. He
was able to successfully bring that about with a handful
of the Arab nations. Wants to extend the Abraham Accords
and negotiating peace with other countries. Now he's having great

(01:21:14):
success doing that in Lo and Behold, he gets at
least phase one of a negotiated settlement between of all
all people, Hamas and Israel. Everyone should have been celebrating that.
I was very happy about that. I mean, Hamas, as
far as I'm concerned, should be blown off the map
because just for that, the October seventh murderous spree they
went on. They're irredeemable. Fine, but you got to negotiate

(01:21:36):
them because they run the territory, they represent the Palestinian
people there just voted office. At some point he's able
to bring about phase one. The world should be rejoicing.
And I know it didn't take completely. There are factions
within the Hamas community apparently who don't want to follow
the lead. But it's a great step in the right direction.
But he's getting no love for that. And he took
the effort.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
You know, but what happens, what happens within the media
today is nothing. You know, is one article said it's
crickets from the ceasefire. Now brigade all the people screaming
for a ceasefire. You know, everybody both sides just yelling
for ceasefire, ceasefire, more on the Israeli side. But at
the same time it gets done. You get a ceasefire

(01:22:19):
and no one has anything to say. But Biden's former
secretary of State said, oh, well, this was set up
by what Biden put in place. What did he put
in place?

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Nothing?

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
He put nothing in place. He got no one back.
You know, Blincoln was abysmal failure with what getting hostages
out or anything like that. Nothing aren't they actually happened?

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Seventh was on I believe Biden's watch, brad Am, I
remembering my history correctly, that's the slaughter of the Israeli
grand grandparents and children and babies. That was Biden's administration. Yep,
setting up that piece deal right there. And what CNN said, Christian,

(01:23:01):
I'm on, poor lord. She said, well, the hostages were
probably being treated better than the average gossen while they
were in captivity.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
I mean, you've got to be kidding, Yeah, yeah, So
how come they didn't all survive if they were being
treated better? I mean, this is just really unbelievable. But
this is what we're dealing with. I mean, Brian, you
have listeners that pay attention, and you have listeners that
you know are seeking the truth as much as anything
else and not just going to mainstream media nodding their

(01:23:33):
head and going, I guess that's what it is. Or
the biggest thing is the absence of information that the
media doesn't put out.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:42):
And for example, I wonder how many people actually reported
on the whistleblowers from the I R S that came
forward about Hunter Biden and how he wasn't paying his
taxes and his felonies and they got slammed.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Let's pause from them. We can talk with some of
the details on that as we uh here we're in
a break here at seven twenty five more with brad
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(01:24:20):
it knows where the skeletons are buried, where they're hanging,
and can't tell us a lot of that stuff because
he's a subject to privacy rules or something. Brad Winstrom
just giving you a hard time. You were talking about
the IRS, and when you mentioned to me off air
earlier this morning, when you talked about the whistleblowers, I
immediately gravitated, as old as I am now to lowesst.
Larner's weaponization at the IRS against conservative organizations. I mean,

(01:24:44):
really brazen, brazen attacks on Republican conservative organizations. You know,
it's just I can't believe that more people weren't mad
about that kind of thing. You hit the weaponization of
the Justice Department of Eric Holder going after banks, threatening
him with complying audits that they didn't quit doing bit
legitimate business with legitimate licensed businesses. Those revelations, to me

(01:25:07):
spoke volumes about the weaponization of these agencies against the
American people for political to achieve political purposes. Now, if
it was the it was some great If Congressman Thomas
Massey or Senator Ranpaul had organized this on behalf of
libertarian minded folks. So we're sticking in my wheelhouse here,
something I would you know, the idea that people turn

(01:25:28):
libertarian is great, but if they weaponized any of those
agencies to serve my political ends. I'd be mad as
hell about it as much as I have about anyone
who was able to weaponize these agencies. It delegitimizes the
American government period and that creates a disrupting force in America.
If you don't trust your government, Uh, what are you

(01:25:50):
fighting for? That's right, and we had that continuation. Though
this issue you're gonna mention with the wars was post
lawis Lerner this a little bit here.

Speaker 6 (01:26:01):
But it tells you how long this type of attitude
has existed. Yes, that you may know in your mind
what's right and wrong, but if you find a way
to justify what you were doing. See, it's sort of
like the communist rule. And that's where I think the
left is going today obviously. But it's like, it's not
it's not a lie if it benefits the party.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Because is okay if it serves our ends.

Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
Yes, because it because we know what's best for the country,
and it's not good for the country. If Hunter Biden
is actually committing crimes and it's revealed, because that's really
what what happened, and he was committing crimes, I mean,
if you if you think about what was taking place,
you know, and what was later discovered and I was

(01:26:48):
there House Republicans, we found Hunter Biden and his associates
hauled in twenty seven million from foreign service, foreign sources
during and after Joe Biden's vice president see and this
money was coming from individuals and companies in Ukraine, Romania, China, oligarchs, oligarchs.

(01:27:09):
Joe Biden on his way out of the door said,
Trump's going to run the country by oligarchs. Well, you
know what, if he does, at least they'll be American oligarchs.
And therein lies a huge difference because you know, hopefully
we're seeing our oligarchs working towards the benefit of America
and not for self interests only.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
So well, their self interest can work on the benefit
of American people. I point to the data centers. You
get these massive, multi, multi billion billion dollar corporations like
alphabet They need energy and they can afford to buy
their own small modular reactors. They can build them themselves,
they can deliver to the American people. With our elected
officials refuse to give us which is small footprint, abundant,

(01:27:52):
unlimited power to serve our needs and needs of these
big oligarch companies, evil as they may be, they're going
to deliver on that point in my lifetime. And that's
a great thing.

Speaker 6 (01:28:02):
Well, the private sector is going to need to do
more and more, and we can talk on that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Well, free of the regulatory burden out here in the
private sector, we will.

Speaker 6 (01:28:10):
But the but these whistleblowers came forward and they just
got beaten down by media and by the irs itself.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I mean the people that.

Speaker 6 (01:28:22):
Were coming forward. For example, they know the difference between
right and wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Right making a democrat, he kis all the checkbox for
the woke agenda in his rights exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
And he stood there he said, he said, look, I
am a Democrat, I am gay, but there's right and wrong.
And I was doing my job, and the other gentleman
was a Republican and we were doing our job. We
were discovering what was taking place. We discovered the felonies,
We discovered the tax faults of Hunter Biden, that he

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was paying his.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Taxes on the millions that he was taken in from
the oligarchs, so.

Speaker 6 (01:28:57):
He wasn't paying these taxes. And they were told to
stand down, and then they came forward as whistleblowers and
then they're being berated and they were told to either
resign or accept a lesser position, and all of this
was going on. They testified in front of our committee,
and it is really amazing. Now they have a settlement,

(01:29:19):
and that's why it's in the news, and that's why
I wanted to bring it up today because it's in
the news that they got their settlement and from the
IRS and from the DOJ for illegal retaliation against them
as whistleblowers. But they also said there needs to be
a requirement this is part of the settlement for new
training for federal prosecutors. That's part of their settlement. Like you, now,

(01:29:43):
we have to teach right and wrong, and that's part
of the settlement. I mean, it's a good thing. I
credit them for doing that. And what the Trump administration
did for them is actually promoted them within the IRS,
because these are the type of people you want to
have in the IR because right is right and wrong
is wrong, and we have to drum out the lowest learners.

(01:30:06):
And all these other people that have been in these
agencies been there a long time, Brian. They know that
they can wait out any administration and if they can
make things be you know, water under the bridge, then
then so be it. And you know, this ties into
what Tulsea Gaber did by the Trump administration taking away

(01:30:26):
the security clearances of the fifty one people that signed
the letter saying that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation. It
looks like Russian disinformation carefully worded, right, But they never checked.
They never went and looked. And what we discovered is
that they were told, we're doing this to help Joe

(01:30:47):
Biden in his debate against Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
And after long after the FBI had already determined that
the Hunter Biden laptop was in fact authentic, that was
information known to the FBI when that left came out
more with Brad Winster stick around seven thirty five right
now here fifty five kr.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
CIT talk station, fifty five KRC.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
You're listening to Lee thirty nine here fifty five KRSIT
talk station citizen Brad Webster, former congressman in studio going
through all the issues. And I had had to go
at the CIA earlier, sort of a tongue in cheek
kind of go but I figured they were getting paid
during the shutdown regardless, And moving forward, I saw John Brannan,
his name's made it back in the news.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
It has.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
He's been referred by House Republicans for allegedly lying to
Congress about the Steele dossier. But if you follow the
statements that he made and then what you discover that
the CIA and the FBI did with it. For example,
with the Steele dosia, they put it in their Intelligence

(01:31:50):
Community assessment, in spite of high level CIA officials saying, no,
this thing is unverified.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
There's we got here and they knew where it came from. Also, yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
You should not be putting this in the assessment. And
but lo and behold that they did. And you know,
so he's kind of trapped with the things that he
has said. And he said that the CIA was not.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Involved at all with the Stile Dassie, you forgot about
that pesky paper trail, didn't he? I guess he did.

Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
And you know, but like you said, the thing has
many flaws we can't verify. But you know, the agency,
the agencies are such the authoritarian threat to democracy. That's
that's our problem. You know, no one voted for people
in the agency right at all, and they sit there longer.
That's where we need term limits. By the way, is
you know, people should be there. Just like the military,

(01:32:46):
you serve and when your time comes, you move on.
If you're not promoted, you get out. I've said that
many times. But still in all you can see the
power that they wield and they're doing things for political
purposes because they didn't want Donald Trump. They don't like
Donald Trump, and therefore these actions continue to be taken.

(01:33:08):
So now you have you know, Tulsea Gebird, and she
is leading the charge to look into the weaposition of government.
There's an interagency Weaponization Working Group, and they're looking back
at everything and looking at the things that were done,
especially during the last four years under the Biden administration,
and the conduct that took place in there. I mean,

(01:33:30):
it's pretty interesting when you start finding things in burn
bags that we're supposed to have been burned and destroyed,
and you're getting a lot of information. Maybe somebody left
a gift, or maybe it's a god thing that wants
America and the American people to have truth in things.
But you know, Brian, there's a big difference between law,

(01:33:51):
fair weaponization, revenge and actual truth and justice, which used
to be the American way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
And no greater illustration of that we can talk about
impeachment here as we talked with the allegations predicated upon
a lie, the Steele dossier, that of course was whole
cloth created by the Democratic Party and handed over and
of course then leaked because it was in fact attached
to that CIA assessment, even though the agent said it
and had no basis in truth or fact. It was
attached for the purpose of getting it leaked to the press.

(01:34:21):
That's how we all came to realize it was even
a Steele dossier out in the world, and then it
was pedaled as absolute truth. Oh, Donald Trump's over there
urinating on prostitutes or something. Now, some fill in the
blank fec non compliant word made that up. So we're
living under the umbrella of those lies, repeated over and
over again. So and it was first they created all

(01:34:44):
of this in an effort to Brennan from getting elected,
and then after being elected, they used all of this
to undermine anything he was trying to do during his
first presidency, so they failed to keep him out of office,
and then continued the lie to subject him to impeachment hearings.
But go over to New York where he's being prosecuted

(01:35:04):
for overinflating the value of his real estate. That to
me is number one. I even talked about that with
Eric Trump about his new book, and I brought it
up because I'm so glad you brought that up. He said,
Nobody ever asked me about that because I know about
the litigation. These are sophisticated parties to the contract. Donald
Trump says, I want to borrow money. The bank one

(01:35:24):
of the biggest banks in the world. They have their
own real estate evaluation team. They can know what something
is or isn't. They don't have to take his word
for it, and who would. So they loan him the money.
They're paid back interest. In all, he's one of their
best customers. They testified in court there was no damage.
This wasn't even a justiciable controversy, and yet he ultimately

(01:35:46):
was found guilty. That just to me, was the greatest
illustration of actual lawfare, predict charges predicated on nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
Look, every homeowner knows what an appraiser does. Yeah right,
I mean, this isn't Donald Trump setting a value. There
are appraisers, and banks are going to rely on appraisers.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Thanks are going to rely on their own appraisers. That's
what I mean, yeah, yeah, so and again they got
the benefit of the contractual bar and willow on the
X at this interest rate. He paid back X with
the interest. Great customers do that. He didn't fall behind,
he didn't breach the contract. It's not an issue, it's

(01:36:26):
not a justiciable controversy, and yet he was found guilty
on that. It's just that shows you how corrupt the
court system is in New York as well as the
Attorney General.

Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
Well, and that's why attorneys are always fighting for the
right venue and hopefully they'll get a fair shake somewhere.
You know, we're kind of, I think overall lucky to
be in the Midwest. I don't know about Hamilton County. Yeah,
well anymore, but.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
I'm glad you qualified that. Yes, the elections coming up,
early voting going on. Make sure you have selected the
appropriate judges, which include Judge Berkowitz. Figure around. We got
one more with Congressman wins or former Congressman Went. It's
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(01:37:12):
Brad one strip in the studio, former Congressman. We're going
to talk to Officer Tivity Green for the Cincinnai Police Department.
God bless them and all they do for the city.
We're gonna catch ourselves a bad guy, actually bad girl
the week, Tiffany Green, Welcome back, Happy Friday, Good morning,
So bad girl this week? Are we looking for?

Speaker 7 (01:37:30):
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Bellamo is wanting for a felony escape and missing in
her set. On August fourteenth of twenty twenty five, Miss
Bellamo normally walked away from the University of Cincinnati Medical
Center Hospital before being placed back into police custy for
her original charge. Assess Yolanda BelOMO is a female White.

(01:37:53):
She's forty eight years old, five ten and one hundred
and seventy pounds. Yolanda Bellomo has a history. Assess will
last now to live on Stable Door Street in Mount Washington,
off the Green.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
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If we know where.

Speaker 7 (01:38:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
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anonymous Officer Green. Thank you for all that you do
on behalf of the city of Cincinnati. God bless the
police Department, and I hope you have a fantastic weekend.
We'll be looking for her pictures on my blog page
fifty five KRC dot com. Back to Brad Webster, ap Brad,
what are we going to conclude on? What topics you
want to go over in this final segment here with

(01:38:39):
my listeners.

Speaker 6 (01:38:39):
On the Well, you know, I think there's a lot
of things we can talk about, things that I'm still
working on, or things with biotech. I think we're in
a we're in a position, Brian, in a way where
we have to advance ourselves. And it's kind of like
pre World War Two if you if you think about it,
you know, we were kind of isolationists time, and Germany

(01:39:01):
was just going forward with advanced engineering and all types
of things that made him a dominant force. And I
think that we're in that kind of a situation with
China today, and so I think we're going to see
a lot of private industry working with government to try
and advance as There's a National National Security Commission on

(01:39:22):
Emerging Biotech and you can see what they've done online.
There's an unclassified version and it makes a lot of suggestions,
and I would recommend all people to be thinking about
what it is out there that we need to go.
You were talking before about energy and AI and things
like that. We have to be forward thinking like this
stuff because it's here to stay and we want to

(01:39:44):
be the dominant factor.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
We know anything by way that you can measure something
that would be called success or failure. Donald Trump is
bringing in some very successful outcomes, one of which is
you saw the literally billions and billions of dollars of
commitments from a variety of different pharmaceutical companies to you
build new facilities, to hire new people, develop drugs here
in the United States, manufacture them here in the United States.

(01:40:07):
That is a painful lesson we all woke up to
out of COVID nineteen jeez, Louise, our entire military, including
the American population or all reliant upon China for pharmaceuticals. Yeah,
if we got in a fighting war, do you think
they deliver our pharmaceutical request? Well?

Speaker 6 (01:40:21):
Right, And that's one of the things the tools they
have in their chest is they cut it off. CEO
in Europe said, if they cut us off, our shelves
are empty in two months, right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
I mean that's you know.

Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
I asked the question, you know, as a as a soldier,
how did our military let this happen? That we rely
on an enemy? And well, we're addressing it today. But
we've got to make a lot of changes. And this
is the type of stuff that Donald Trump can orchestrate
that we've got to do these types of things, and
here's how we're going to go about doing it. But

(01:40:52):
it all comes down even to the active pharmaceutical ingredients.
It's not just making them, it's stay control what goes
into them. Now, that's the problem with batteries and rare earth,
and so you're seeing that address more and more, and
this is where the private sector is to come into play.
But I did like something that was said in the
Wall Street Journal over the weekend. He said, if you

(01:41:13):
hate Trump, maybe you just hate the times we live in.
For Trump is the zeitgeist on a golf cart. And
we were talking about that off the air. He's the
person for the time and we are in a different time.
You know, Ronald Reagan was my favorite and just a hero.
But this is a different time and Trump is adjusting

(01:41:34):
to the times that we're living in and where technology
is and where social media is and what needs to
be done. And everyone was concerned about him being an isolationist.
Who's making the peace deals, you know, Gaza, he got
a ceasefire with Iran in Israel and well, blowing up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Cartel boats in the international waters two thousand miles away
is not being isolationist. And I've got a real problem
with that, Congressman. I think ingress people, the elected officials,
should have some say over who were dropping bombs on
That is an act of war. I don't care that
they're evil people being targeted. They're going to make it
to internet. They're going to make it to US waters
at some point. If you can track them in a
submarine and find it in fifteen hundred miles away, I

(01:42:15):
think you can keep attrack of it until it gets
into US waters. Sorry, man, I just I cannot abide that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:22):
Oh, that's an argument that can be made. But if
you're taking the approach that this is these are terrorists
than they are, I mean, you you know, we went
to war for twenty years after nine to eleven, when
three thousand people died sadly, But we've had over one
hundred thousand between eighteen and forty five dying of overdoses
for the last several years until the Trump administry.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
A situation over which those individuals had a choice and control.
We had no choice in getting bombed on nine to eleven. Well,
it's out to our hands. If somebody wants too used drugs,
they're the problem. You got me there.

Speaker 6 (01:42:57):
I mean, I agree with you on that, But when
you think you're taking something else.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
That's a different story. You're being duped. You're out buying
drugs on the street, It's gonna have fentanyl in it.
We've all learned that. Buy now everything on the street,
from cocaine to something you think is an oxyconton tablet,
it's gonna have fentanyl in it. That's full, foretold, forewarned.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
So and that's why there's education hopefully taking place in
high schools, et cetera. Is like, I mean, I'm talking
to my kids and it's like, no, you don't take
anything from anybody else, period, only for mom and dad.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Amen, sound advice. Then again, you're a parent who cares
about the future of their children, and you are who
you know, make their lives important better. You probably are
raising them with ethics and morals and trying to get
them and guide them to make lots i rationals. The
world doesn't enough to cute like families that I grew
up in. That's the biggest link weekly in the chain
is the family.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
I hate to end on that point, but I really
had to make it because it's I mean, you keep
going back. People are looking for government solutions for problems
that start literally in the home. And if that home
line structure had changed and people cared more about their
own children, we wouldn't have a nation full of dependence.

Speaker 6 (01:44:11):
It's the same with health and everything else. And you've
got to start early. And you know you talk about
you know, DEI, you can't put someone in med school
at twenty two that isn't prepared for it. You got
to start with getting him a good education in grade
school and high school and then college.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
Those are the building blocks the foundation to be a doctor.
They see, now, you just scared the living crap out
of me. Right there a nation full of doctors that
grew up and were educated in a woke DEI environment
filled with great inflation. Oh that's comforting, Brad Webster. You
get to leave on that end note. But it's true,
So we'll take better care of yourself. You probably want

(01:44:50):
end up in front of a doctor, folks. Sarah Herringer
is going to join me in studio, coming up after
the top of the hour news. I hope you know.
Sarah is a widow. Her husband was killed in their
over the Ruine apartment. He was supposed to have an
ankle monitor on and we've all found out. Yeah, that
ankle monitor program six to fifty five KRC DE talk station.
By the time, I's wishing everyone a very happy Friday,
I've got some great plans over the weekend. I think

(01:45:10):
I'm gonna try to make it up to you see
tomorrow for homecoming. And I am so pleased on the
heels of having brad winstropin city to look up and see.
Sarah Heringer has returned to the fifty five KRC studio
to talk about the latest on what happened in the
aftermath of her husband being murdered in front of her
in there over the Rhine home. And Sarah, it's such
a pleasure to have you here. I know the circumstances

(01:45:32):
are challenging and difficult, but you've been out there, You've
been outspoken about this. Your reality and circumstances resulted in
a grand awakening. I think for most everybody, me particularly,
I'll note, I believe that an ankle monitor actually meant something.
Mordisha Black, the thirty eight year old man who was
charged with murdering your husband, was supposed to be on

(01:45:55):
an ankle monitor. It was cut off and had it
been off since February, and this incident happened in it
was June correct, correct, So here he is rouman about
and we're thinking, you know, oh my god, some alarm
had to go off he cut his ankle monitor off. Nope, Nope,
nobody was alerted. Yeah. So that I mean, if we
got to find a silver lining in an unbelievably horrifically

(01:46:17):
dark cloud. The one thing is that we now know
that and that maybe something's going to be done about
it in the form of this Patrick Herringer act that
some some folks in Columbus are now pushing. But before
we get to that, I just wanted to ask him,
and I know my listeners are concerned, how are you doing,
how are you holding up? How's life been since that?

(01:46:37):
Are you know, are things improving for you? Because the devastation.
I don't think I can comprehend it. I don't want
to have to.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
No, I I'm the answer that I've and it's true,
but I've I've learned to give to people as I'm
building capacity. And one of the hardest things that I've
actually learned through all of this outside of you know,
the negligence of the situation is that people, we're all
grief illiterate. We really don't know how to handle this.

(01:47:07):
Our society where people want to find they want to
see you progress and get better, and of course there's
concern of like how's your mental health? How are you
holding up? It comes from a place of sincere kindness
and wanting to make sure I'm okay. But it's something

(01:47:28):
like this is not something you get over. No, it's
not something that also needs to be fixed. It's something
that just needs to be witnessed and held. And I'm
actually very grateful that you provide a space for me
to share part of my story and what's happening in
order as part of that process to be able to

(01:47:49):
look at something this devastating and not try to turn
and hide from it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Amen. And you know, the only the parallel I'm going
to try to draw here, and I'm trying to be
sensitive to the reality of what you just pointed out.
I'm not living what you're living through, so how can
I know? But I'm a man who at least cares
enough to make to want to know that you're okay.
You know, it's anything I can do, you know. And
so people really delicately approach this subject. But not gonna

(01:48:13):
lose my train of thought. But it's like when you're
dealing with someone you know is struggling with depression and
one of your reactions is or one of maybe someone
who's not familiar with what it's like to have depression
is once you just snap out of it. Here, let's
walk through all the reasons life is great for you.
You've got this, You've got that, You've got a wonderful

(01:48:33):
wife or husband, you got your kid. How can you
be depressed? Well, that reflects and ignorance about depression grief comparable.
I mean, unless you've been there and done that. And
everybody's different, their life experiences are different. Up to that
moment when they lose someone. So they're working with a
different playing field than literally anybody else. But it's a

(01:48:54):
struggle for us out here who really care to approach
the subject just to let you know we really are concerned. Yes,
and I do.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
I appreciate that. I think you know, and I think
that's the whole point of what anyone can do is
just say I can't fix this. I know my words
aren't going to be enough, but I'm I'll be here
with you. And presence is really all that anyone can
ever offer someone in something like this, And so I
do I appreciate it. So many people reach out and

(01:49:21):
offer that. And if we're also going to put a
spin on it to what is positive, I'm hoping that
more people can really understand the process of grief and
exactly that not trying to find silver linings. You don't
need to fix it. You don't need to be the
person that comes in and makes it better. You just
need to walk with the person who you know who's

(01:49:42):
experiencing it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Yeah, your presence alone may be enough, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
That's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
I supposed to try to become a therapist, yes, yeah, yeah,
armchair therapy exactly. Yeah, I can certainly appreciate that, but
are you Are you working because you had the fitness
clinic and over the Ruyne that you ran with your
late husband, and I know you had some success, that
you were big pop you were popular in the over

(01:50:08):
the Right neighborhood, in spite of the fact that people
thought it appropriate to break into the place and commit
property damage, which we can dive into maybe a little
bit later, but I just want to see if if
you're still engage in employment, if and if that's helpful
for you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
Yeah, so right now I haven't. I mean, it's been
about it's just been four months. And for me, I've
taken this step out of this the capitalism and the
rush of society and the time and it probably feels
like so much longer for everyone else. And while it
does feel really long, I'm like it's been four months.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
The coaches that are at Fendly Movement, they're phenomenal. They've
stepped up, they're running the place and they're continuing to
do exactly what it needs to be, which is a
community place where people can go and they can have
support and everyone there lost Patrick to as well. It's

(01:51:05):
a it is a shared communal devastation. It's to your point.
Patrick was a pillar in the OTR community. People knew him,
they knew of him, and he did. He touched hundreds
of people's lives and was their coach. And so I
have taken a step back in order to build capacity
so I can re enter and to do what I

(01:51:28):
need to do to feel the grief and not rush
through it. But the gym is going strong. It's a
great place and the coaches are killing it there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
And you know you're in the over the Rye area.
Why not. Finley Movement is the name of the place in.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
What street is It's on Finley Street.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Oh makes sense on Finley Street. So go ahead, you
do some more exercising workout. We could all use more
of that to make you feel better. It does, and
you can support Sarah and we'll hopefully she'll be able
to get back to work after she build sufficient capacity
to do that. Yeah, I like the way you characterize that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
Yes, it's building, and I do. It's you know, when
you mentioned where people are at, I know one of
the very few reasons as to I mean or there
are there are probably a few, but one of them
is what is your level of resiliency before something like
this happens? And that is really what Patrick and I
use the tool of fitness for was not just making

(01:52:24):
your body look good at not aesthetics, but for health
and long term resiliency for because life is hard and
if your workout is a little bit harder than the
things that you deal with on a day to day life,
then you're you're going to be well equipped to handle
that kind of pain. And so to me, that's really
what fitness has been, and it's it's helped build the

(01:52:47):
what I need in order to continue to move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:52:50):
Well that's great, Yeah, a little incentive for others to
might go down that path as well. I know I
am not one to speak to that because I am
a sloth. I am lazy and I'll admit it, and
I hate my self for it. Yourself, Sarah, Sarah Herringer,
and can I observe before we come to the break here,
I had said it to you off the air. If
I'm sure my listeners have seen your late husband. He

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looks like the epitome of badassery when I see a
photograph of him, like that guy came to kick some
serious but yes, but that was the farthest thing from
the truth, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
He was very very kind. Most it surprised people once
they got to know him. They're like, wow, that's really
not what I expected. I kind of expected this meathead,
kind of mongo looking tattooed guy, and he was incredibly
intelligent and kind and a good listener and encouraged everyone
and I And that was one of my favorite things

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that that being the shock of it all is They're like, oh, wow, okay, yes,
there's really some depth here.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
And your posts, your Facebook posts, you've been very open
and revealing, and the love that you had for your
late husband comes through just crystal clear, and not everybody
has a relationship like that, so I can certainly understand
how profound this has impacted your life. More with Sarah Heringer,
we're going to find about where the Patrick Herringer Act
is because maybe we can bring about some reform and

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not let this man's life go to waste. And she's
going to see that through eight fifteen right now, Stick.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Coming on eight nineteen Brian Thomas with Sarah Herringer. Of
course she lost her husband. That tragic, awful should never
have happened, stabbing and over the rhine in their apartment,
and just it's just really heartbreaking. And I'm so pleased
that you're willing to talk about this because you have
the opportunity, and I know you've been out working the
phones and talking to people about getting some reform in

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terms of what it means to have an ankle monitor
and what it might mean in terms of if someone
cuts her ankle monitor off. We can't let this kind
of thing happen again. We have I mean, we live
in a modern society where they can figure out where
we are. Anytime you got a cell phone, boy, they
are tracking right in on you. We can find a
Mexican drug cartel submarine underwater two thousand miles away. I

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think we can find a guy local who's cut his
ankle monitor off. But that wasn't happening. Is again, the
murder of your husband was out free from February up
until June. After cutting off his ankle monitor, nothing apparently happened.
Have you gotten any answers to why that is? I mean,
clearly there's a Patrick herringd Act being discussed now in
Columbus and we'll get to the details on that in

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a minute. But what have you learned since then, Sarah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
As far as ankle monitors go, or what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Well, whether specifically with him or just the whole thing
seems to have been a broken concept from the get go,
and your husband is the tragic result of what can
happen when it isn't working.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Yeah, I mean that. So from the state level that
is who parole and when it comes to monitoring the
ankle monitors, that would be on the state level, not
the city level. So part of the Patrick Harrenger Act
is getting all of those agencies, uh, local, state, and

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even outside of Hamilton County like pretty much anyone around
when uh, someone goes a wall, cuts off an ankle monitor,
doesn't report in or.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Strays from their geo fencing. I mean yes, listen, if
you have a dog, now, you don't need to put
a wire in the yard anymore. You just programming program
and it creates and establishes a geofence. These people are
limited where they can go. You have to stack on
your own residential property, put a geofence along the property line. Boom,
problem solve. He goes out of the property line. Sadly,
it doesn't shock them. No, can you imagine if it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
If it did, Yes, yeah, and it I mean, the
entire thing shows that it favors criminals and not and
not public safety, and the it's the criminals and those
obviously we know people in the Senate and law enforcement.
They know that ankle monitors don't report in real time.

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When he cut off his ankle monitor, you know, I
would have thought alarms would have sounded all of that.
That's not how they were notified. He skipped a meeting
with a parole officer, and that's how they know that
he then went missing. And just recently in Hamilton County,
they passed where they reduced the parole officers. They took

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them out of the field. So there used to be twelve,
they cut it down to six. They took them out
of the field and they put them in an office
building and are incentivizing now people on parole to have
to go and check in with their parole officer. They're
giving them like reds tickets and gift cards and all

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of that. And I'm like, I don't get incentive. I
don't get that to just behave. And so these are
people that need to prove that they can integrate into society.
And that's how there. It's like dangling a piece of
candy in order for them show up at something that
they are legally already required to do.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Right, That's where I was going to go, because a
penalty for violating the terms of your parole, which includes
showing up at your parole officer meetings, would be ready
to go back to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Jail exactly to serve the rest of your time or no,
we got to give a candy bar exactly. And so
that that happened, that slipped through that change that not
a lot of people are aware of. This is this
is something that has been an effect in Franklin County,
and the FOP up in Franklin County has said that

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they haven't seen better.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
He talked with Ken Kober and to basically because I
was asking questions about this, like, well, if this isn't
Franklin County, they're touting that this is, you know, a
proven system. We're going to rank criminals on a levels
one through four. People with a level one probably don't
even have to check in at all. Criminals are also

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part of ranking themselves, so as long as they have
an answer to the test, they know how to get
a lower classification. Yeah, this is wow, this is where.
And then we've just now in Hamilton County downtown they
closed the field office and it's like you already have
you know we when we dug and looked up up numbers,
it's like, you already have one hundred and thirty a

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wall criminals. Fifty two of them are violent, and you're
reducing the man power to go and find them. You're
making it. And then and you also have these systems
that initially they they sense changed the policy the state
did because when he went missing, they put in a
notification and they're saying, okay, even though that was procedure.

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One of the things with the Patrick Herenger Act is
going to make it a law instead of procedure that
not only do they issue a warrant, but they also
have to reach out to local months of PA and
notify them immediately. What you would have thought, I was like,
what is the Fugitive Apprehension Unit doing?

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
Why do we have them if they're not going to
also back up and go and find these people.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
These they got a right they have fugitive on the
run lar.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Yes, these criminals are out endive shooter.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Oh, we have a formerly active shooter who's on parole
and acle monitor who's run amok and is at large
right now.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Well, and they do yes, and they do it with
sex criminals.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
Yeah, a register where you live exactly, and it's like
a database.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Yeah, let's put some teeth into having far more accountability.
These people are have broken the law and have shown
us multiple times that they don't have an interest in
following the rules of society, and so there needs to
be a little bit more earning that trust and having
transparency and accountability with that process.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
Supposed to be what the criminal justice system is for exactly,
not a rewards program. More with Sarah Heringer at right
now fifty five KRS de talk station. This is fifty
five KARC and iHeartRadio stage. It's a twenty nine year
fifty five kr C detalk station. It's such a pleasure
to be able to laugh a little bit with Sarah
Herringer in spite of the subject matter that has brought
her back into the fifty five KRS Morning Show. Ctitio,

(02:01:15):
the murder of her husband in their own apartment and
over the Rhine. My listeners all are painfully aware about that.
Of course, it's been a subject of conversation here in
the city of Cincinnati, given the elections coming up, and
up until a moment in time ago have to have
Provall was saying, don't believe your eyes and your ears.
We don't have a crime problem. And Sarah's raising her hand, going,
oh really, let me tell you about my life up
to the moment my husband was murdered in my apartment

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and over the rhine. You talked about that last time
you were here, regular gunfire, so much so that it
became a norm in your life. It was, oh more gunfire. Okay,
you know it's another day in the over the Rhine, right,
And so we have big issues coming up to the election.
I'm not sure if people are paying attention. And I
want to be optimistic, but the more I hear about

(02:01:58):
the way things are, the more I think I shouldn't
hold my breath for that. But let's move back to
Patrick Herringer Act, which is going to hopefully resolve some
of the massive holes we found out exist in the
ankle monitoring program, one of which I just learned off
the air. Now, listeners, are you of the mind, and
unless you know something about the system more than I do,
are you of the mind that when someone cuts off

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their ankle or otherwise leaves or geo fencing that somewhere,
some office or some computer, an alarm goes off at
the moment that happens. Guess what, No, it doesn't, Sarah,
tell them how that works?

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
Yeah there, I mean, you had painted such a fun
picture where you imagine there are these people in this room, yeah,
looking at these screens waiting for something to just trigger
it in back. Yes, exactly, the ankle monitor went off.
Let's go get them, you know. And there's not resources

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we just talked in the earlier segment. They're actually removing
resource is away from the parole program and changing the
infrastructure of that. But the ankle monitors are not even
a GPS. It's more of it. It's like a pinging.
It's like when you're doing cell phone location versus in
real time watching them walk down the street on like

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Google Maps. So he the reason how they were were
notified was not when he the moment he cut it off,
but when he didn't show up to a parole and
that's when it will then. Okay, it's basically this guy
is he's not shown up. You can ping it to
look to see like in a vicinity, in an area

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of where they are the parole officer.

Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
That's they go to the garbage can as I joked
about on Eighth Street.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
Okay, you know, and if that happened with with in
this circumstance. I don't know the you know, the granular
details as far as that goes, but just how it
works overall. That's how ankle monitors work. They're not tracking
in real time time. And you see that because we
know there are hundreds of people on parole that have

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cut off their ankle monitors in the state of Ohio
and are a wall. We know about the ones in
Hamilton County. So but the other problem that we're also
seeing and have come up lately and even with the
Reagan toques of why these needs you monitor in real
time there needs to be more teeth in this program

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is many criminals commit crimes with them on.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
So it's really you know, it isn't it's not a
security fence. It doesn't keep them within a zone. It's
not this massive alarm system. There's not a ton of
man power monitoring these people, and they are aware of that.
And so what's the problem is is the public isn't

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educated on this in order to call up Cyndya Abrams
or their state senators or you know, demand change, yes,
action and reformation within these programs because we are blind
and thinking that there's some teeth to this and that
a criminal with an ankle monitor is truly being watched

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when they're really not well.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
I mean, an Apple air tag thing would do a
better job than an ankle monitor. It's real time monitoring.
And I know technology has existed for years that if
you have the appropriate tracking device, it will map out
where that person has been. You'll get this full day's
activity of where they went, did they leave their geofens location,

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So you could recreate potential parole violations by looking back
at the history of you know, the data that's been tracked.
I imagine that the current ankle monitors don't do that either.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
No, and that's and if you're going to remove the manpower,
and like you're right, technology has advanced, and so you
if you use the right technology, you probably could lower
the manpower as far as that goes. But you can't
do both. You can't have this archaic technology that's not
really serving the purpose that it's designed or was the

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intent of what we set it out, and then also
remove people who can be the monitors in real time
and who were initially supposed to write. The parole officer
was supposed to be out in the community. They're supposed
to know these people, they're supposed to watch them show up,
they have these regular check ins. They're there to make
sure they're integrating into society. And now you've also removed

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that as well. So it can't be both.

Speaker 2 (02:06:43):
It cannot be both. Well, continue with Sarah Herringer kind
of not to come in the studio today talk about
these very important issues and probably going to issue a
call to action. I think I can do it right now.
You know the legislation is up there, Patrick Herringer Act
And who would you, I mean, just your elected official,
your state representative, your state senator, wherever neighborhood you happen
to be in, Call them up, send them an email,
sent them a text, yes, tell them, move forward. Let's

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get this out of committee, Let's get it voted. On,
let's get it in acted. We need some reform for
the safety and security of the residents of the state
of Ohio. Or with Sarah Herringer coming up next, Don't
Go Away fifty five KARC the talk station seven thirty
nine I fifty five ker CD talk station right Thomas
with Sarah Herringer in studio, widow of Patrick Herringer again

(02:07:29):
murdered and over the rhine in their home. And of
course the NDCal monitor. We've talked about that. There is legislation.
It's up there in Columbus and you can call your
representatives and your senators and ask them where it is,
the Patrick Herringer Act. Will it come out of committee
anytime soon? Will we get some reform that seems to
be overly needed? Guess what, it's twenty twenty five. We've
got new technology that's not fifteen twenty years old, apparently,

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and it might work. So inquiring minds want to know, Sarah.
Apparently Christopher Smithman among others listening right now, and it
was the topic that you and I were talking about.
What we got the text message and the message from Streker. Hey,
what's the story on the mayor? Has the mayor reached
out to you and have you heard anything from any
of the council members? So let's answer their questions and
mine what's going on on that level. Sarah, well, I was.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
I mean, you said it so well. The silences is deafening.
And I before we went on the segment, I was
going to say, yes, reach out, but also reach out
to Aftab and ask what he's done for safety reform.
And he's got a lot of influence standing behind him.
If there's someone who should be reaching out to state
representatives and trying to get a law passed on that level,

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you would think you would be pretty helpful with that,
you would, Yeah, And no one on city council has
reached out. John Cranley reached out when he found out
he's not exactly and was, you know, is there anything
I can help you with? Is there anyone who I
can connect you with? And that's someone who no longer

(02:08:58):
holds political office, but has influences and wants to help.
And so when I met with Aftab and he said
I'll do whatever it takes to help you pass any
type of laws, It's like, well, you know, we need
to see action, and I think that's something that this
entire time I've been saying is the people who are

(02:09:18):
currently in office care far more about optics than they
do about action, and that's something that voters need to
be considering. Hopefully that gets people out of their seats
and gets them down into the voting booths next month,
because the current administration has done nothing to try to
make sure that they're safer than they were in June.

Speaker 2 (02:09:40):
Well, as I told you, and I can let my
listeners know the little story. I think it was talking
with Christopher Smithman, who's running for council. Of course, he
goes door to door and how many times people residents
of the City of Cincinnati in the weeks leading up
to the election, which is the first week in November,
everybody that they don't even know there's election coming up.
I mean with a straight face, to say, oh, we

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have an election coming up, like, yeah, you can vote
for the mayor and nine city council members. That someone
could live in the City of Cincinnati and be so
politically oblivious is to not know that all important election
is coming up and something that they might be able
to have an impact on their own neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (02:10:21):
Absolutely, I mean local politics is really where you have
the most amount of control and where it affects you
the most, quite honestly, and you know everyone they get
wrapped up if they do vote on the national level.
But right now, Yeah, if you live in the city
and you want to see your neighborhoods get safer, who

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you vote in in this next election is going to
make a difference as to whether we see that improve
or we see it to continue to rot and fall apart.

Speaker 2 (02:10:49):
What's your reaction. I mean, up until only recently, as
I said earlier, in a moment of time ago, Aftab
said there was no crime problem in the city Cincinnati,
And now he's that're over to saying public safety is
our number one or has always been our number one priority.
That's what he's saying now as we fast a close
pro the election. What's your reaction to that sort of

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bipolar reality of what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
Well, I mean, if people are paying attention, they see
the conflict, right they And initially they had released the
CPD had released saying hey, look, crime's down during winter,
and then in the very next press conference, the chief says,
we knew things were going to ramp up. So it's
what is it is crime down or did you know

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it was going to ramp up?

Speaker 4 (02:11:35):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
We don't have a crime problem? Or Aftab said safety
is our first, second and third priority. So which one
is it. He's also now throwing out numbers. Data is
confusing or he doesn't want to deal with it. He's like, oh,
let's not look at the data. People don't feel safe
and their feelings aren't And it's like people, I'm it's
not down to whether I felt safe or not. We

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were not safe. People in OTR are not safe and
what has changed? And now you know they're either a
great distraction and probably doing the right thing too with
scrutinizing the chief. But you know, if you have to
look over the last the question that voters should be

(02:12:19):
asking themselves is are they safer in the city than
they were four years ago?

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
That's a great way of putting it, you know. And Sarah,
I used to work in over the Rhine back in
the eighties, a place called Harry's Meats and Seafood. It's
not there anymore. It was across from the Central Stand
and I would walk back and forth to my car.
You know, white kid from del High in this is
pre rehabilitation and pre gentrification of over the Rhine, So

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it probably was at its lowest point in terms of
relative to where it is right now, before Washington Park
had been rehabilitated. I mean, so much has changed down there.
I never never even thought about crime going back and
forth to that business. And at one point, remember Chris Geiger,
who was the one of the owners, He gave me
several thousand dollars in cash from the register, put it

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in a paper bag and handed it to me. I
got my butcher's smock on, and he told me to
walk it up to the bank, which was like five
six blocks down up the hill, and you know, here,
go ahead. And I thought that was the first time
I ever felt like maybe I was concerned, but nothing
ever happened. I didn't feel there weren't gunshots going off,
and there weren't people doing drugs on the corner. And

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it was supposed to be a worse place then than
it is now. It's I don't know, it's just always
standing amazement on that. We're going to continue with Sarah Heringer.
We got one more here on a Friday see Deep
Talk station. It's eight forty nine here fifty five KCV
talk station Brian Thomas with Sarah Herringer, obviously recueuing the
fact that Sarah's in study because her husband was murdered

(02:13:51):
in their apartment and over the right, and you were
north of Liberty right, Fimley Market area one block north.
Different circumstance south of Liberty than north of Liberty. Is
that your perception? Because I keep hearing about the primary
crime problem is north of Liberty and there hasn't been
as much quote unquote gentrification there. But by that, even
if that is true, I know there is this significant

(02:14:12):
spillover effect. Clearly crime is all the way down to
the banks. So yes, given that crime is such an
important issue as we go into the election, Mary have
to have Parvoll's reaction to the offer of assistance from
governor to Wine. He did offer thirty days a full
month's worth, month after month of four free additional Aiso

(02:14:34):
state patrol resources. And since we're not enough, we don't
have enough contingent of police officers. We're down one hundred,
one hundred and fifty two hundred. It's like a moving target.
But given morale and the number of officers that are
not happy with their situation. We're losing them every day.
We can't fill the ranks and up we can't get
up to what is a normal contingent. Christopher Smithman suggested, well,
you know we should Pervoll took two days and then

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he said, we'll take four days worth of OSP on
a monthly basis. Now, if you're getting offered something for free,
and you are missing already an objectively accurate, say one
hundred officers from your contingent, you want to put more
people on patrol because the presence of police alone can
reduce crime. It's like having your late husband in the room.

(02:15:16):
No one's going to start any crap with your husband
in the room because look at him, and this guy's
going to be able to handle himself. Coh that's exactly
the effect that they have. So wouldn't you I would say,
and Christopher would say, take enough resources from the state
to get us to a contingent where we're that we're
supposed to him and see if it has an impact.
Is it really the lack of officers and the lack

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of officer presence. We can find that out for free.
Grab the officers.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
Absolutely, So what I.

Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
Mean, your respond your reaction to have to have Purwoll's
take on all this, since he's finally acknowledged that crime
is a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Well, I actions are what speak right, and you want
to see ultimately if something is working. A result is
Aptab hasn't admitted something is broken. So how why would
he go to means of fixing something if he thinks
everything is fine? And that's really that's the what you

(02:16:12):
have to look for. Is there an admittance of what
we're doing isn't enough. Something's broken, it needs fixing.

Speaker 2 (02:16:18):
Maybe getting rid of the chief of police, right, that's see,
that's him trying to say, well, the thing that's broken
is police chief three soy Thigi, who two weeks ago
I was standing arm in arm with talking about what
a great job she's doing, only to find out that no,
we're going to do an investigation to find out, well
why chief police chief Theji's doing such a bad job.
This is all smoking mirror, Sarah, you know what.

Speaker 1 (02:16:41):
Sent I regret. I was going to write on it
saying I guarantee you before the election he will get
rid of her. And I think it is it's I've
heard it's one or the other, right, Like she's either
only a scapegoat or she's incompetent at her job. And
it's like, why can't it be both? Maybe that's why
they put her, you know, And it's and I want

(02:17:04):
to offer respect to her as a human being. I've
been I've seen what people say about people online and
she is a human and we can still we should
be critical. She's been chief of police for three years. Again,
the question is has crime gotten better or worse? Let's
be objective here with that. She rightfully so should be

(02:17:25):
removed from position. And I don't think that's enough, but
removed from the position.

Speaker 2 (02:17:32):
And here's where I think all the errors are going
to ultimately point hand selected by Cheryl Long and have
to have purvol over the interests of the police officers.
The police officers were asked, they said, do not put
police chief or put Fiji in that job. No, no,
we're putting her in.

Speaker 1 (02:17:47):
They wanted Lisa Davis, who's now the chief of police
for Austin, Texas.

Speaker 2 (02:17:50):
Yeah, they are her boss. They have the power over
hiring and firing. Can I imagine during an interview, if
you're talking about appointing someone the police chief, you might
want to ask if you've questions, we are you willing
to follow this administration's directives? We are your boss, and
I'm certain she did. Yeah, you know this woke police department,
reimagining the police department, you know, the whole defund the
police concept with parvol embraced. And so did some council

(02:18:12):
members that she followed their directive, did what they were told,
found out lo and behold, more crime, less cops, more crime.
This is not the path you go. See Portland, see
San Francisco, every other city that's tried this. And so
she's being let go and her position analyzed because she
was doing exactly what the administrator want.

Speaker 1 (02:18:30):
Hook in the mirror aftab yes, one hundred percent. And
that's but I think that's it's the story that he wants, right, Oh,
it's it's not me. It's the police that can't handle it.
And that's why they put her in that position, and
that's why they're having her fall on the sword right now.

Speaker 2 (02:18:48):
Elections have consequences, and i'd like to see the more
voter turn out in downtown Cincinnati beyond the Sherry Poland's
predicting about twenty five percent board of election. Sherry Poland's
been She's done this dance for decades, so I consider
her projection to be an accurate one. Wouldn't be nice
if more people showed up, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
They need to they need to get out, they need
to vote, and you know, change up city council for sure.
There's some really good people in the running for that,
and they if they care about the trajectory and business owners.
I mean, downtown is full of local business owners and

(02:19:25):
even for the safety and the profitability of their business.
This is something people really need to be considering. Otherwise
we might be seeing a Cincinnati that looks, you know,
twenty years ago, when it was a ghost town after
five o'clock, whenever one left the banks.

Speaker 4 (02:19:39):
It was.

Speaker 2 (02:19:40):
I remember when Nick Cliney was a reporter. He would
do editorials back in the eighties, and I remember him
making this profound statement, Cincinnati is dead. There is no
point in coming down here other than going to the office.
There's nothing to do here. And what a world of
change has happened in Cincinnati. The one problem crime.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
Crime, And during COVID, the suburbs thrived. They had to build,
they had to, you know. And so if it's not
the same ballgame anymore, If you want people coming downtown,
they have to feel as safe as they do out
in the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
No one's there right now, Sarah Herringer, God bless you
for the time you spent my listeners of me today.
I'll pray for you and hope you continue building up
the strength and courage to move on and move forward.
We hope to see you back at the gym, and
I'll encourage my listeners get down over the RNE and
Finley Finley movement movement. Yeah, check us out, check them out.
Support Sarah Heringer in that way.