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Five o five at fifty five KRC the talk station
Happy Friday, will.

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Vacation.

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There it is, you know it's Friday. Judge Trecker doing
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the fifty five Cars Morning Show. Brian Thomas right here.
Glad to be looking forward to hearing from you. If
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problem getting in. The only slipping I did was getting
into the driveway here at the building. They had shoveled
it or salted or anything, but roads not too bad.
Slow and steady. Wins the race and had no issues
whatsoever coming down seventy one from the two to seventy
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but do allow some extra time, cause you know damn
well that if there is a flake within the ten
mile radius. Someone's going to freak out behind the wheel.
And I hope you got your bread and milk. Make
more snow to come to. We'll get the forecast here.
You got the forecast there a moment ago. Anyway, let
us see here coming up with fifty five cares See
Morning show. It is Friday, of course, Tech Friday with

(01:28):
Dave Hatter got a couple of minutes accused in a
local card skimming case. Those things seem to be growing.
Users are saying no to the Windows eleven upgrade. We'll
find out why from Dave and Google apparently sharing your
text messages with your employer. Dave hates Google, and to

(01:50):
the extent that that is true, obviously, I'm sure there's
a subtext of that. I hate Google as well. Why
would they share your text message with your employer? Anyway,
that's what we Dave hadter for keeping you out of trouble,
at least trying to if you listen to him. Private
Citizen Brad Winster returns of the thirty five Krsey Morning Show.
Hope he allows an extra ten minutes to get in.
It's an hour of power with Brad Winster. I got

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a lot of things talk about with him. Of course,
we can weave into some of the things like the
Venezuelan and oil tanker seizure. We talked to him about that,
and as I find out, actually, you know me due process.
I know people hate me because I still believe in
due process and the Constitution and you know, following the
rule of law. It's one of my criticisms about you know,
launching missiles and dropping bombs all over the place without

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any even congressional involvement. We've been down that road a
million times, most notably of late with Massy Napolitano of course,
Congressman Warren Davidson the other day. But at least as
far as the Venezuelan oil strikes are concerned, they went
to court, they got a warrant apparently following the law,
and that's and they're going to further go to court.
We're planning on keeping the oil, but we're going through

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the court process and presumably that'll give Venezuela an opportunity
to come into court and make an argument for their case. Fine,
that legitimizes the whole process, and that's all I'm looking for.
You can stand behind the law no, we followed the law.
No tolerance for lawbreakers. So get Brad's comments on that.

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Beverly Park Williams, she's got a book, Parallel and Separate,
local author. She reached out to me about this book.
Parallel with Separate, a tale of two sisters. It's a torria,
a story of her mom and her sister Janet, who
were separated I after her mom was born and her
aunt was three years old. They were separated through a
legal process and one was directed to be raised by

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the author's mother and the other, one moved over, was
forced to be raised by the father. They one grew
up in poverty, other raised in a middle class home
with the private education, and the differences between their lives
were rather stark. They both lived in Cincinnati, their paths
did not cross, and they did not know of each
other existence until seventy years later. So it we use

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a whole lot of local information. Finley Markets mentioned river Downs,
the Westwood Botanical Gardens, Whitewater Forest, just all kinds of
local relevance and a very interesting story. So that's we're
going to talk to you with with Beverly Park Williams.
That'll take place at eighth five of course Monday on

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the morning show, Christopher Smith Men and Money Money with
Brian James, so extra special shout out. Let's all sing
happy birthday in our heads. Anyway to west Side Jim Keefer,
it's his birthday today, Jim Keeper, Happy birthday, my friend,
my brother. I appreciate all that you do and your
care and concern for the community, and it's been a
wonderful thing as a consequence of my being here on
the fifty five Case Morning Show to point to yet

(04:47):
another relationship and friend that I am blessed to have
by virtue of my employment. Just a beautiful, beautiful thing.
So to all my friends out there, it's just I
truly appreciate your friendship. One of the reasons I like
the listener so much. It's not just me making friends,
it's other listeners in the audience making friends themselves, establishing
new relationship and you know, putting a smile on each

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other's faces. That's what it's all about from my perspective. Oh, Ed, look,
let's start locally, shall we.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Iire us Rawli, don't you? She loves the police? Not
she got a new contract.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Mayor.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Elections have consequences don't they Joe brand new contract, which,
interestingly enough, timing is everything. City manager share Along signed
the new contract two days after the election November on
November sixth. What's it worth? Six hundred and sixty four thousand,
three hundred dollars an independent consultant, which means she's not

(05:48):
bound by the nepotism rules that actual city employees are. No,
you can't hire your son. No, you can't you know,
funnel proceeds to your husband, which is exactly what Irishly
apparently did. According to the Paula Christian Hbxmedia dot net
i team Channel nine, new contract authorizes a Summer in

(06:16):
SINSI program, which is apparently at least allegedly designed to
help youth and prevent violent crime between the months of
June and August, expanding the Government Square initiative from mid
August through October. City agree tobate ninety four thre hundred
dollars for that work performed months earlier. It's pointed out, Oh,
look Toddzen's or citizen watchdog here locally, former US Inspector

(06:38):
General who fought fraud waste in the US Department of
Commerce and US Department of Transportation. We've had Todd Zenser
on the program a bunch a citizen watchdogs podcast, and
I cannot encourage you enough to listen to what Todd
has to say. It's all built on fact, it's all
built on legitimate information, and he is often quite puzzled
over the what I'd like the character the Shenanigan's going

(07:01):
on in downtown Cincinnati. He was quoted by the Channel
nine and the contract has been controversial, and it should
not be surprising that the city administrator or a city
manager held this stuff until after the election to avoid
any more controversy before the election, No kidding, Todd, perfect
good point. Riley didn't respond to request from Common from

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Channel nine, but they did obtain new records. You're gonna
love this. The ITAM uncovered that the city spent more
than thirteen hundred dollars for T shirts, hoodies, and performance
shirts for government square workers. Now that's one thing. Oh,
we all need to look like, we all need to
be able to be identified. Fine, Joe, how much do

(07:43):
you think it would cost to get a T shirt? Online?
You can order a custom T shirt from Amazon for
what five ten bucks? Yeah, it's cheap. How many T
shirts and hoodies and performance shirts. Can you order for
thirteen hundred bucks? Sounds like a small sum of the
grand scheme of the fraud, waste and abuse that goes
on in any government entity. But you know, the point
here is that the t shirts, which again you can

(08:05):
go to Amazon and buy or someplace else, purchased from
a company registered to Iris Rolli's husband HM invoices dated
March twenty fifth from BLG Accessories and Apparel located at
twenty two oh six Langdon Farm Road. Anyway, bottom Liarci says,
thank you for choosing roch Show Awards and graphics the

(08:28):
company's Roach Show and Black Lives Golfing. That's a new
one on me. Not to be confused with Black Lives Matter,
who's one of the major founders of which was just
accused of embezzling tons of money. There's your financial contribution
to BLM getting thrown down the toilet. I don't know
it benefited her and her acquisition of a bunch of
real estate. Different story anyway, Black Lives Golfing registered to

(08:49):
Jesse Rowley out of the same Langdon Farm Road address
or the Secretary of State Records anyway, I team looked
into that. Todd Zenzer's response to that, it does make
it look like it's a family business. This kind of
transaction doesn't make it look fair. True, And of course
they looked at reached the city. The city has found

(09:11):
no violations or conflicts of interest. The contract was executed
once terms were agreed upon. Steve Gooden, our favorite lawyer,
uh didn't make it to Cincinni City Council, although he
sat there at one point at the end of the
day he said, this is patronage. If she were an
actual city employee. You know, Steve's versed in the law
on this. If you're an actual city employee, none of

(09:32):
this would have been allowed. She would not be able
to give this business to her husband's company or parenthetically,
as we all know, hire her son who worked in
that government square program. I think he do you get
convicted felon Joe? No, he was in jail or something
like that. I don't I don't draw any conclusions from that.
I'm just going back from my recollection, which is as
I get older, fading anyway, not be able to give

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this kind of business to her husband's company, or to
hire her son to engage in the kind of political
activity that she engaged and why because cities nepotism policy
says employees should avoid influencing, participating in personal decisions of
allving close family members, like recommending them for work or
in this particular case, actually doing the hiring. You see

(10:16):
Iris rolling her husband, laying in bed, having a little
pillotalk conversation and her husband, how in the hell can you?
How come you didn't give me the T shirt business?
You know I do run Row Show, We make T
shirts and stuff. Why did you go to Amazon and
get them? Well, I was a little concerned about the
appearance of impropriety, USHN, but you're not bound by that.

(10:40):
There's no nepotism policy against an independent contractor. You're an
independent contractor. Give me the business. I don't know how
that conversation will go down in your home, but I
can just imagine impossibly that or maybe her leaning over
to him again. Guess what, honey, I got a contract
for you. Your company's going to fulfill the T shirt,
hoodie and performance garb requirements, and I'm going to give
you the business. Thank you. Joe Strecker Gooden pointed, I said,

(11:06):
what she's doing here is not illegal. But my point
of view is it should be illegal. Question. It should
be illegal, shouldn't it. Do you think the city council
will change their policy to say no tep nepotism for

(11:27):
independent contractors. No, at least my dad's listening to the
Morning show. God Bless you dead. You know, he passed
away on the ninth of December a couple of years ago.
Missed him so much good and said whatever Roleie was
doing didn't work, speaking to the government square and found

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initiative that her son was running. You know if peace,
love joy, handing out food and putting on t shirts
and spreading the love apparently didn't work because over the
summer we had massive problems and governments where and she
was already responsible for that or sub that out to
her son. Whatever role he was doing, it didn't work.
Good and said it failed. And the idea that she

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gets paid for it after the fact. That's that figure
I referenced earlier. I think just stinks the contract. There
are no real metrics. There's that fundamental problem we had
with government. Here's the money, NGO. Your stated objective is wonderful,
stopping violence and handing out food people who needed keeping
the order. We love that. However, there are no real metrics.

(12:35):
No one within city government goes out into the world
and finds out of these NGOs did the work that
they were paid to do, or step back from it
and objectively observe that if that work was in fact
going on, apparently it was, Iris and her son were
getting paid for it. What about all the violence that
happened in the Fountain Square over the summer hmm, violence

(12:57):
that led to mayor aftab perval, putting all the a
civil service response team, swat team, everybody bringing down a
government square, coming up with new policies, new curfew policies,
all of that in the aftermath of the violence that happened,
Can we just objectively observe that whatever they purported to
do did not work. Let's go a different route, maybe
get a different subcontractor to take on this responsibility.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Zenzer pointed out the value of this contract has increased
almost eight hundred percent since twenty twenty two. She's been
around a while. It's on its way to a million dollars,
he observed, Yeah, it is, I guess, And he points
out city contracts could attract the attention of outside auditors. Ooh,
this is a shot over the bow from Todd Zenzer.

(13:47):
All you law firms out there want to do a
little pro bono work, file a lawsuit against the city
or send out foyer request. Here's what Todd Zenzer had
to say. These are red flags that outside parties can
take a look at and start raising a lot of
questions about how the city is operating it's contracting operation,
pointing out the city is playing fast and loose with

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contracting rules. Well, if you are one of those law
firms out there, a citizen activist, maybe you might want
to take some interest in this one. Five point twenty
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
Tell yeah, I mentioned in passing considering the Irish early
contract and the nepotism that goes along with that, Black
lives golfing, whatever, you start your own organization, your own company,
that'll be her husband, Iris Rolly's Husbands, one of his
two businesses that are cited by Channel nine's I team

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in this investigation to the brand new contract with Iris
Roley entered into two days after the election, Hey, let
me underscore that again. Moving over to Black Lives Matter
the Oklahoma City Chapter, the executive director there charged with
wire fraud money laundering. Federal prosecutors claim she diverted more
than three point one five million dollars in returned bail

(15:30):
checks to her personal accounts for her own period of
her own use. This took place over a five year period.
Her name share at Teshella Sherry Amor Dickerson from Oklahoma City.
She accused of routing money intended for the group's bail
fund and social justice programs. So you give to something

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like this thinking it's going to be used for altruistic means,
like we're going to bail out the Black Lives Matter
folks that got arrested. We're going to use this money
for altruistic purposes. She's going to take it and put
it in her own damn pocket. According to the Department
of Justice and the press release, this BLM Oklahoma City
Chapter raised more than five point six million dollars beginning

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in twenty twenty, major grants from Community Justice to Exchange
don't even know what that is, and you don't either,
and the Massachusetts Bail Fund and the Minnesota Freedom Fund.
Everybody's lining up to throw some money at the BLM.
It was the right thing to do, it was the
popular thing to do. Sometimes BLM chapters would shake down
corporations in order to get corporate sponsors. They routed the

(16:36):
money through the Alliance for Global Justice, which served as
the BLM. The Black Lives Matter chapter, their fiscal sponsor
required that all funds we used for tax exam purposes.
And there's a lot of reasons for us, most notably
the five oh one C three obligations. Anyway, the prosecutors
say she deposited three point one five million, at least
in return to bail checks to her personal accounts rather

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than back into the Black Lives Matter account HM. She
bought property, She bought all kinds of stuff. She brought
clothes apparently, so twenty five count indictment, charging with twenty
counts of wire fraud, five counts of money laundering, now
facing up to twenty years in federal prison for each
wire fraud count and up to ten years for each

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money laundering account, and potential fines of up to a
quarter of a million dollars per charge. Fox News reached
out to the BOM chapter there, and they did not
return the call for comment. Shocking literally No One five
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Speaker 7 (17:41):
Right back fifty five KRC dot com.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
There's Greta Thunberg eight two three talk found five fifty
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Welcome back, my friend to you.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
If I had a kazoo, I would do Happy birthday
to mister Kiefer. But you know, much like you get
the Tuba.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Yeah, so but I don't.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
I just I left my kazoo at home.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So that's all I wonder if mister Tuba has left
side Jim's phone number, I hope.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Yeah, anyway, happy birthday Jim. You Yeah, your your stories
this morning. One thing that that crosses all political racial
gender lines is greed. Yeah we we uh we we're
all susceptible to it. And this opinion I'm about to

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give is is not based on the people in the stories.
I don't know these people. I haven't talked to these
people directly, but all the things that I've heard over
the years, and and people's reaction to these stories and
this kind of stuff, certain communities get to the point
where you know, maybe you know, they've been taken advantage of,

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and now they want theirs. Now it's their turn to
be greedy, and so they they found a way to
get everybody else, either by force or or by guilt
or whatever, to go along with all this stuff. So like,
for example, Black Lives Matter, and we talked about Black
Lives Matter enough, just at the organization itself.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's a it's a farce.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
There was no need for that whole thing. We've looked
at the you know how George Floyd thing and all
that stuff. There was no need for all this stuff.
Of course, black lives matter, just like everybody. All lives matter.
Now I know that's racist to say all lives matter.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
No no, no, no, no no no, don't don't concede
that point. Never say it's racist to say that all
lives matter, because it's not.

Speaker 8 (19:49):
It's a profound tha's sarcastically.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I know, I know, I know, but you see you
kind of give it that it's lurking in the back
of your mind, and I wanted to spell that notion.
It shouldn't even be lurking there. You should be able
to say that to the straight face. If they want
to come out and say that's racist, you can laugh
at them. It's not racist at all. Go ahead. I'm
agree with you.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
I agree with you. I agree with you, and I've
had this argument multiple times though. The whole thing is ridiculous,
but it's a way for people to get theirs. Now
we're getting arms, and it's all about greed. That's what
this is all about. When you get an opportunity to
take advantage of a situation or a group of people
or whatever, what do you do. Do you take advantage

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of it, do you get your own?

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Do you lie and.

Speaker 8 (20:32):
Cheat and steal and work the system? Or are you
trying to be an upstanding person? Back to the thing
we talked about the other day about merit. Are you
trying to prove yourself as as as worthy of whatever
you're getting, or are you trying to prove yourself on
a daily basis or do you think you're too good
or too whatever to prove yourself and you're entitled to it.

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Some people walk around feeling entitled. That's for this Again,
this goes across political spectrum, across gender, race. There's people
in every sector that has this idea that they're entitled.
You aren't entitled to jack except what you and your employer,
or you and a person giving you money has agreed to.

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And unfortunately, we have too many people out there that
have agreed to this crap. They're going along with it,
and they're feeding into it, and they're donating to it,
and they're allowing and they're looking the other way. And
that that's why this stuff is so prevalent. And when
it comes to voting, do you really think anything's going
to change the City of Cincinnati's going to change their policy?

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Why would they did just one basically a landslide election.
Didn't they mayor counsel all these people they won hands down?
They didn't need to wait till after the election to
do this. Why they did, I don't know. Wait for
what for the voters to change their mind? Please, they're
not going to change their mind because they're too uninformed

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to realize they're getting screwed by the people who are
telling them we're here to help you. They're lying to you.
Stop believing them. At don't vote Democrat. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You do the same, Tom. Be careful out there as
far as they didn't get a gasoline report from Tom. Anyway,
real quick. Here to Lisa Reese on the program earlier
this week.

Speaker 8 (22:19):
I like her.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Of the three kind of commissioners, she has emerged as
my favorite because she at least it hates this nonsense
about the stadium deal. Well, guess what. Heven Kindty commissioners
approved more than two hundred million dollars in upgrades for
pay Corps that would be part of the new lease
agreement which they re entered into exercise in the extension,
and the county is still response for three hundred and

(22:40):
fifty million dollars in upgrades. Apparently, these new funds the
two hundred million dollars are earmarked for infrastructure and technology improvements,
including the oh my god, we need one of these.
The Jungle Vision System commission President in East street House
said the upgrades will benefit more than just those who
go to the bankals games. Try to work with her

(23:02):
on this one. Quote, it's the Bengals game, but it's
also the concerts, the high school football games, and all
the things that we anticipate in the years moving forward.
And so we are simply upgrading an asset which belongs
to the taxpayers, the tax payers who parenthetically we were
promised a rebate, but we didn't get it, or at

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least only a fraction of what was originally promised. Bengals
are going to throw in one hundred and twenty million
towards these renovations, in addition to the counties three hundred
and fifty million. However, Commissioner Alesha Ree substained from voting,
arguing that the focus should be addressed on budget shortfalls
and property tax relief.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I feel everything should be put on hold until we
get the budget together. It's not a separate thing. It's
not the stadiums. And then over here to the people
local twelve Christian Houserd reporting, give them credit because at
least we get some local reporting out there, or at
least she's focused on Yeah, ready, fire aim, Okay, here's
the Bengals slice of the pie first, But then we

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got that pesky budget we need to deal with shouldn't
be dealing with it all at one point, one time,
at whatever it's we got a contractual obligation to do this.
As terrible as that is, it's the reality of where
we are. Five thirty six, Right now, fifty five KR
City Talk Station. I'll be right back, fifty five KRC
the talk station, five forty one if if you have

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KCD talk station. Jeffery has been waiting for this since
five o'clock. He lets me know with an instant message

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every day or every Friday. Brother, Good morning, Jeffrey. Uh,
there's your little bass riff. Let us see here. Going
back to Tom's comment that all lives matter, in my
comment is not racist. He knows it's not a racist statement.
Say everybody matters. Did you ever hear the breakdown about

(25:11):
how jingle bells is racist? We are into the stack
of stupid. Parenthetically, I know it's joy Read, you know,
I kind of view her as like some talking head
or some Hollywood celebrity their opinion. Well, there you go.
That's not Donald Trump's favorite word to describe as stupid person. Though,
Joe joy Read said out a video saying jingle bells

(25:34):
is racist, and I got the lyrics here, and I'm
not going to read them all, but go ahead and
try to remain objective when you're reading the lyrics and
see if you can find anything in there that even
suggests racism. Apparently the person who wrote it might have
been a racist. Confederate did composer James Lord Pierpont fought

(25:58):
for the Confederacy during this a war? But as many
point out, does his you know, being part of the
Confederate army and fighting for the cause of the Civil War,
of course in the South that was the cause of slavery,
does that make the song itself racist? And I'd never
even heard of him before. I had no idea he
was connected with the Confederacy, and I bet you didn't either. Anyway,

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I just am keep your stupid mouth shut. Not the
Jay Ratliffe. Of course, it's Friday, So we go to
Florida with a naked guy Florida man getting to help
he desperately needs after a viral video of him getting
hit by a car while running through traffic. What unidentified

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man hit by the cars He's jogs through the busy intersection,
but he jumps right back up and kept running. Miami
police said The incident happened on Monday. Identified man was
placed in under Florida's Baker Act and that means an
involuntary temporary mental health hole. Police s of the man
as a military veteran. It was high on some drug.

(27:11):
That's in quotes. Driver of the car went to the
nearest police station to report the incident. Well, the TMZ
rights and we assumed to the car wash.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Now, who can argue with that?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Mansfield, Louisiana driver arrested after a pursuit on I forty nine.
Chase started at De Soto Paris Sheriff's Office. Deputy found
a man parked in the median shortly after three thirty.
Patrol sergeants saw White said in the median, where she
was headed to a separate scene. Requested a nearby patrol
unit to check up on the driver. Deputy showed up
found track Carlos Adura McNeil, forty nine years old from Houston,

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sitting in the driver's seat naked. Alty say he appeared
to be under the influence of drug or experiencing a
mental episode. How about I go with the former.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Drugs are made at the.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Soota s Sheriff's Captain Michael Dunn said they spent several
minutes trying to talk with him to get him out
of the vehicle to safety. The situation, however, escalated when
McNeil suddenly drove off heading northbound in the southbound lanes
against the flow of traffic going about ninety miles an hour.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Why are you doing that?

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Though?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think it's the drugs oncoming traffic about a mile ahead,
Dunn said. The officer of deputies used a pit maneuver
to stop the vehicle, and it will be the knocking
out of the rear end of your car while you're
traveling down the road. DASHCN video shows the car spinning
into the barriers. Mc neil refused repeated commands to get
out of the car, continued to dance and yell what

(28:41):
canine in it? This one canine? Karen deployed in successfully
removing meil from the vehicle. Yeah, I imagine it did
take him to custo, especially you're naked man. Can you
imagine a canine going after you when you don't have
any clothes on? How hard is it?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Not much after that, in a custody went to the
hospital for medical evaluation. Donn said the sergeant or the officer. Fortunately,
Karen the dog was not injured. Those dogs loved doing
their job. They trained for getting people out of the
vehicles and buildings. Good girl, Good girl, the deputy could
be heard saying after the apprehension. After treatment, he was

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booked into Vesotto Detention Center facing charge of aggravated flight
from an officer and resisting an officer. Could be facing
additional charge, though now he's booked for aggravated flight and resisting.
He does not have a criminal history in Louisiana, surprising everyone.
Five forty six right now, be right back with more stupid.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station, the talk station.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Five point fifty fifty five KCY talk station. Yeah, if
your list of school in business closings has only about
twenty closings or delays on it, you're looking at a
short list. It's longer than that. I want to appreciate
Zimmerheating in Cooling for sponsoring the list. But the list
that's linked is a little short. So mind your school

(30:05):
in business closing selections. Now there you go, thank you, Joe.
Let us see here back over to the stack. Is stupid.
I don't get this stuff. Kenosha County, Wisconsin. We have
a teacher there former underscore the word. Elementary school staffer
has been accused of sexually assaulting a child. Pleaded guilty
to several felony charges. Accord to the Kenosha County District

(30:27):
Attorney's office, thirty four year old Anna Marie Crocker pleaded
guilty of following charges. First degree sexual child assault, child
sexual exploitation, parenne filming, child enticement specifically sexual contact, second
degree sexual assault of a child, intimidation of a victim,
and use of a computer to facilitate a child sex crime.

(30:48):
Photograph of her looks like a very attractive woman, at
least if her headshot is any indication. Why in the
hell would a thirty four year old attractive woman one
of a lasted child.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Forensic investigation, undercovered video, explicit messages, multiple acts of sexual abuse.
She's still in custody, going to be sentenced in February.
Enjoy the lock up. District attorney said, people who work
in schools and whole positions of trust and authority over children,
and when that trust is violated through sexual abuse, who
represents a profound betrayal of trust and an immense abuse

(31:19):
of power. Well that's an understatement.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Who can argue with that.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Thirteen year old thirteen year old boy. There's not a
hot enough place in hell for people like that. Oh,
here's another place. Another man's going to be joining her
in the hot place in hell. Palm Beach County, Florida,
where a teacher has been arrested on allegations's of improper
relationships with his student. Twenty six year old Elias Farley

(31:51):
was working at Donocline Jewish Academy Boca Ratone had sexual
relations with one of his students, facing charges of unlawful
sexual activity with the minor offenses against a student by
an authority figure. They say the relationship began over the
summer when the two could communicate through a mutually shared
Google document. It escalated to the point of physical nature
once the current school year started. Cord to the rest form,

(32:12):
it included multiple encounters that occurred both in the school
and his apartment, and finally continuing Athene Sadly Connecticut, Meridian, Connecticut,
specifically a former music teacher there facing charges after police
said she had an inappropriate relationship with a student. Several
years ago. Sierra Picard, thirty nine, turned herself into police

(32:33):
December second. They say she's been charged with five counts
of second degree assault. Reported incidents happened while she was
working as a teacher at Maloney High School. She resigned
from the job in August. District called police as soon
as had heard about the allegations. This after Meridian Police
Department Special Crimes Unit said it took the case. Investigators
said they looked at into claims about inappropriate relationships between

(32:54):
her and the student who has since graduated. Student, now
twenty five years old, police that he started being groomed
by her as a freshman when he was fourteen years old.
When the student was sixteen and seventeen, during his junior
and senior years, he told police that multiple sexual assault
incidents occurred. Said the relationship evolved after his father died.

(33:15):
I'm sure she took full advantage of that fun fact.
Now former student told him that during the junior year,
they wanted a trip with Picard to New York City
to watch a symphony. That's when he said they exchanged
their first kiss. During that year, text messages between the
two became sexual in nature. Picard asked the student to
delete the messages can unring that bell in this modern age, right,

(33:39):
Dave Hatter coming up at six point thirty. Police said
they interviewed her in August asked if she had ever
had relationship with any student during her thirteen year tenure.
Initially denied it. However, police said she eventually said she
knew the student to whom police were referring, then admitted
the text between her and the student definitely crossed the line,
and also admitting the relationship was not okay. Yet, she

(34:00):
continued to deny the relationship was physical, told police the
relationship matted in twenty one when the student told her
he didn't want to talk to her anymore. Student eventually
revealed to his mom that he had a relationship with her,
A married woman with two children of her own, mom
urged her son to file the report. Told police that

(34:21):
he felt he could not say no to her because
she was the direct teacher. Also said he's enrolled in
professional therapy as a consequence of that relationship. She posted
a twenty five thousand dollars bond. If she turned herself in,
she'll be in front of a judge on the sixteenth.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Es.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
The biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies.
There's no bigger douche than you.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douche. Them good
going due.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Your dreams have come true. Fifty five I played to
talk about between now and six thirty when we get
tech fighty with Dave hat or local card skimming case.
Users say, in no way on Windows eleven upgrade and
Google apparently sharing your text messages with your employer. We'll
hear about that from day at bottom of the next hour.
I hope you can stick around and.

Speaker 7 (35:14):
Be right back today.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Headlines six or six or fifty five KRC detalk station
by Thomas wishing your own a very happy Friday. Be
careful out there on the roads, A little slick. Lots
of school and business closings this morning, depending on which

(35:38):
list you have. It's a short list, it's the wrong list.
It's a little bit longer than it should be. And
not a criticism of Zimmer Heating and air Conditioning for
sponsoring the fifty five k see school and business closings
on the site, but the link which we're obligated to
use contractually, so I believe yes, and quite accurate. It
hasn't been outdated enough, so your conclusions from that. But

(36:00):
I was checking out Fox nineteen which apparently has a
more accurate list. And yeah, there's a lot of school
in business closing, but you probably know that already because
of modern technology. You'll get a text message anyway. Bottom line,
be careful on the roads, and we got more snow
to deal with over the weekend. Five three seven nine,
Fred two three talk real quick, Jeff want we'll let
people know. Come up to the bottom of the hour
Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. We have men accused in
a local card skimmer case. We'll talk about users saying

(36:23):
no to Windows eleven upgrade and apparently Google sharing your
text messages with your employer. Brad Winstrip and Studio for
a full hour Private Citizen former Congressman Weinstrip seven oh five,
and then Beverly Park Williams with her book Parallel and Separate.
Local author has got a really interesting book. So that
is on the lineup this morning. Over to the phones
we go, Jeff, thanks for holding. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Happy Friday.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Right back at you, Hey, we think her about a
startup company to compete with anti diarrhea pharmaceuticals. Perhaps we'll
call it bowel laxatives matter.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Okay, you go ahead and run with that. Iris Rowling's
husband has a company called Black Lives Golfing, So joining
the fun.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
That's that's why I just said the chime.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Jeff, make sure it's a five on' one C three,
so you two can be an NGO, pay yourself six
figure salary and a very handsome one, and then pretend
to get work done on behalf of the community.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I'm shooting on.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I'm shooting for a billions.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
There you go, aim high, Jeff, aim high. Appreciate the
call and the levity on a Friday. Anyhow, Immigration, I
have quite a few stories here. Let us begin with
you want to? You want to? You want to? This
is almost impossible to fathom, all right. You got under
Biden administration, we had between ten and twenty million illegal

(37:56):
immigrants flowing into the country. Right, you can't deny that.
It's a fact somewhere in that range. And it's been
widely reported and documented that that mass influx and mass
of migration caused the price of homes to go up,
most notably housing for the lowest income Americans. Now which

(38:19):
party plan purports to be the champion of the little guy,
helping out those in need, creating government programs to help
those on life's margins. You know, it's Democrats. They champion it.
They will not can't labor that point enough anyway. The
same party that brought you Joe Biden and open borders
and a ten to twenty million individuals flowing across our

(38:41):
various borders and then of course needed to be housed.
So there's a HUT investigation mass migration. Obviously as easy
to conclude it had an impact on housing prices for
the lowest income Americans. Department of Housing and Urban Development study.
They do this annually. It's not just some Trump you
know report that was issue. They do it every year.

(39:02):
They look at quote, worst case housing needs defined as
Americans who are low income but do not receive government
assistance or welfare, and who pay more than one half
of their income towards housing costs. And they reported and
concluded a key cause of elevated housing cost prices apartments,

(39:22):
notably foreign born population in the United States in Department
of Health and Housing and number of Development's eyes increased
by more than six million. I think that number is
a bit shy of the actual number that came in.
They say it contributed to a significant increase in housing demand,
driving up housing prices, supply and demand. You cannot get
around the reality, so that I think is an indisputable fact.

(39:47):
We do have many call it a housing crisis. Maybe
a Minnesota Lieutenant Peggy flann Flannagan, you know Tim Waltz's
lieutenant governor, right, the same Tim w that allowed massive
fraud to take place in the Somali run nonprofits siphoning
off literally hundreds of millions of dollars from child attrition,

(40:10):
medicaid housing programs. That scandal is really they just got
the tip of the iceberg on that one. Anyway. Lieutenant
Peggy Flannagan slamming Donald Trump telling CNN that Donald Trump
wants to distract the public from cost of living increases.

(40:31):
I says, raiding restaurants, lurking outside of schools, detaining US citizens.
Donald Trump's this evil human being. He chose the Lake
and Riley Act as the first bill of his administration
for one reason. He wanted to legitimize his mass deportation agenda.
She's saying he should be talking about inflation. Well, you
know what. One way of dealing with inflation is to
get rid of the dangerous criminal element among the illegal population,

(40:53):
or at least give the illegal immigrants an opportunity to
fly back home from whence they came because they violated
the law, came into country without permission. Welcome to two
point five million illegal aliens leaving the United States of America,
which should have a profound impact on the price of housing.
Donald Trump's working on inflation. One of the ways you
work on inflation is get rid of these bad guys,

(41:14):
and there are a lot of them. DHS Secretary of
Christi nom announced this week ICE agents had successfully deported
more than six hundred and five thousand illegal aliens, the
majority of which are illegal aliens with pending criminal charges
or criminal convictions. Do you want those people in your neighborhood.

(41:35):
That's racist? No, it's not. I don't care what race
the person is. First, they're in the country illegally, they
came in without permission. Second, they committed crimes, period, end
of story. Don't care what color skin they are, what
religion they worship, or maybe they're agnostic or atheists. I
don't care. It doesn't matter a whit. They're criminals, they're dangerous,

(41:55):
they represent a threat to the American citizen, and we
have every right to kick them out of the country,
which is exactly what's going on. That's six hundred and
five thousand of them that have been rounded up and
kicked out. Now, aside from that, almost two million illegal
aliens have now self deported, so gradually, slowly but surely,

(42:20):
but in the first eleven months of the Trump administration,
we can celebrate the fact that there are no longer
in this country two point five million illegal aliens, not
only causing the house because of the housing inflation, but
also taxing the welfare state, which is already on unbelievably

(42:42):
almost unsalvageable shaky grounds. So if you're one of those poor,
downtrodden Americans who are are hooked to the umbilical court
of the government for public assistance, you should celebrate this
victory because a lot of the illegal immigrant populations are
work are getting the same benefits that you are, except
they're not entitled to them, at least from my perspective. Legally,

(43:02):
I think they're allowed to get it, but that is
one of the problems that goes along with allowing an unchecked, unregulated,
massive humanity to come into our country. It puts so
much stress on the social welfare safety net. Schools are overwhelmed,
housing shortages developed. And then there's a criminal element that
goes along with this. Department Human Services Tricia McLaughlin, or

(43:32):
rather Homeland Security rather, I'm sorry. So the trum administration
is shattering historic records and more than two point five
million illegal aliens leaving the United States. DHS has deported
more than six hundred and five thousand, and another one
point nine have self deported. Hey, I guess the policies
of work which they call a boon to the housing market.
Pivoting over, Director National counter Terrorism Center announced yesterday the

(44:03):
government has identified eighteen thousand known or suspected terrorists who
got into the US under the Biden administration. Those are
the ones that he acknowledged that his agency has been
able to identify so far, and pointed out because a
whole lot of folks snuck in have not been identified.

(44:25):
No biometric data, no vetting, no nothing. They snuck around
the border guards, there were no encounters. How many of
those are there? You don't know. I don't know, and
apparently he doesn't either, But you can count eighteen thousand
of ones they've actually identified, those who our government has
linked either directly to terrorist activities or deemed associates of
those who are terrorists. He said they would have been

(44:50):
blocked under normal immigration procedures, yet, in his words, the
Biden administration not only let them into the country, in
many cases facilitated their entry. One case, he pointed his
specifically Rama La La Whatever La Khanwall, that Afghan migrant
charging the shooting attack near the White House last month
that killed a National Guard soldier and critically wounded another

(45:13):
admitted to the United States as part is Biden. Biden's
airlift of Afghan's in twenty twenty one, after years of
assisting the United States war effort. He worked with the
United States and was approved under war conditions in Afghanistan
to assist the United States, but did not undergo vetting
that should have been conducted before he got here. Just
one illustration of what we're talking about here, he said,

(45:34):
the Biden administration essentially used his tactical level vetting, which
is a much lower standard from what I've read in
the wartime situation. In Afghanistan. Now you're vetting is less
of an issue. You're in Afghanistan. The guy's not going
to get in the United States very soon. Oh that's right.
When we pull out, we have an obligation to those
who helped us. Maybe you want to ramp up vetting
before you bring him into our country, knowing that, well,
apparently this guy, had vetting been done, would have been

(45:56):
identified as someone who's likely to shoot our military person. Now,
he said, two thousand of eighteen thousand knowns or suspected
terrorists and his agency has identified arrived as part of
the Afghan airlift operations. Wonderful. So obviously a huge problem,

(46:17):
and they're expecting more terrorist activity. We're coming up on
a two hundred fiftieth anniversary next year.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Mmmm.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Elections coming up next year.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
So I'm gonna call that a big victory. Yeah, let's
worry about inflation, Lieutenant Governor Flanagan, Right, we should six
seventeen right now, let's see, Brian, you're on the phone.
I get your call right out of the gate. I
just looked up and saw you there. I apologize, but
I'm overtime in the segment Chimney Care fireplaces to have.
Got to see the talk station six fifty five KCD
talk station Happy Friday, speaking of the social weftware safety net,

(46:54):
David Brian, just one second, conclude my point on that.
You know, we have this inflation reality brought to you
by the vast influx of illegal immigrants. Looking at the
smaller community of Minnesota, they did a numbers crunch Center
for Immigration Studies looking at Census Bureau American Community Service,

(47:15):
or rather the Census Bureaus American Community Service survey shows
eighty one percent of Minnesota households headed by Somali refugees
are in one or more forms of welfare twenty seven
percent or on a cash welfarecept, fifty four percent on foodstams,
seventy three percent on Medicaid. Okay, fine, That doesn't suggest
that all these smaly households are illegal, but the smally

(47:36):
population generally, there's your breakdown. Now, compare that to native
born Minnesota's twenty one percent on one or more form
of welfare, only six percent on cash welfare, seven percent
or on foodstams, eighteen percent on medicaid. Huh, what's wrong
with that? Picture? Like everything? Just one illustration of a
broader problem that's going on throughout the United States of America. Brian,

(47:58):
thank you for indulging me on that. Thanks for calling
this morning.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Happy Friday, well, happy Friday in good morning. Yeah, let's
address the beef prices. It somehow are Trump's fault, even
though our herds at the lowest in the last what
seventy years? Yeah, and screw worm in Mexico's keeping them
from important from Mexico, which they've been doing for years,

(48:20):
which was affecting our herd. But so you take ten
million immigrants illegal whatever you want to call them, that
eat one pound a ground of beef a week. That's
ten million a week or five hundred and twenty million
pounds a year. Gee. That that doesn't affect that price
or supply of beef now does it?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Of course? But you know what, Brian, the good thing
that's coming about is, yeah, you got to pay seven
dollars for a pound of beef and that's through the roof.
But you know what, there's fewer cows. As you properly
point out, the herd levels are the lowest they've been
since the nineteen fifties or something like that. It's less
methane Brian, cows, you know, have flatulence and methane is
a greenhouse gas, and you know we got to get

(48:58):
rid of the cows.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Well, if you raise this calsa South America, the Flatlentstle
effect atmosphere only one. It's in the United States.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Thank you very much, Fried. Excellent point. Just like the
Chinese carbon dioxide output doesn't impact the global temperatures, only
Western country's output. God bless you, Brian in six twenty five.
Right now, if if I have cares to the talk
stations speaking of calful atcellance Odor exit, yes, it will
get me the talk station six nine on a Friday.
It is that time appointment listening, necessary listening. That is

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(49:52):
thank you for what you do each and every day
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Friday Day.

Speaker 7 (50:02):
Yeah, Happy Friday to you, Brian and Joe and all
your listeners. Happy to be here, glad you are.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
And this skimmer thing we've got, I know you relied
on a local story about a convenience store card reader,
a skimmer thing. We can talk about that, but this
also goes along with the idea that they can capture
your card information by you know, digitally or through the waves, right,
I mean electronically. They don't even need to touch you
or touch your card.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
That is correct, Brian. I mean it depends on the
type of cards you have and the type of device
they have. But what you're describing really is just another
form of skimming. You know, when you look at this,
you hear different terms skimming, shimming, that sort of thing.
But basically, you know, most credit cards still have a
max right, some have the chip. You know, you can

(50:49):
use the near field communication to pay, the tap to pay,
you can wipe your card. There's all these different ways
that you know, you can get the information off a
credit card. Or debit card. Now this particular thing again,
We've talked about this before and it's showing up here
once again in the Tri State area, people using skimmers,
which are basically devices. Depending on the device, sometimes it's

(51:12):
called a shimmer if it goes inside. But essentially you
either put a device over the aperture of the credit
card reader or inside the credit card reader. Could be
a gas pump, could be an ATM, could be a
point of sales system sitting on a counter somewhere. But
you know, once you put the card into it, it
attempts to read the mag strip, It attempts to read

(51:33):
the chip again, whatever it's designed to do or tap
to pay, it can potentially, you know, I could walk
up to you with the right device on my pocket,
bump into you and try to read the cards in
your wallet. So there's a variety of different ways this works.
We're just now seeing another real world example where someone.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Did it well the old school way. The original way
was to put something over the top of the original
card reader, correct, I mean inside. Quite often you could
tell that that had happened. You could grab a hold
of it and jiggle it. It might pop off and
then it'll be revealed and be in your hand. I mean,
I at least there was an opportunity for people to
try or look for something like that. How do they

(52:11):
install these card skimming devices inside that device?

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Well, imagine just a small board, right, a small circuit board,
and you just drop it in the slot. I mean,
that's how small these things have gotten. Now. You know,
sometimes there's a second angle to this, because everything you
said is right about the older stuff. In many cases
it would literally fit over right aperture for the credit card,
so you're sticking your card through their device. Sometimes I

(52:37):
might have a different color, it might be loose whatever
with this With these newer, smaller technologies, again, it could
be something if it's completely inside the slot, so you
wouldn't really see it. You wouldn't know what to look
for even if you looked inside. Right, Well, it looks
like a circuit board. This thing's electronic, it's probably okay.
So yeah, that's part of the issue with this, Brian,

(52:58):
as if they get more smaller and more sophisticated, they
get more difficult to detect. And in the old days too,
and many cases you'd have to come retrieve the thing.
Is the criminal to get the data out of it.
But now some of these things can support wireless protocols
like Bluetooth or Wi Fi or something like that. So
once I've deployed it, I don't necessarily need to ever
touch it again. As a criminal, I could just pull

(53:19):
into it a lot and get the data off of it.
So they've gotten trickier. You know, a couple other things
you should look for, and again this depends on the
type of skimmer they're using. Would be okay, if I
have a debit card, I got it. The criminal's got
to get my pin. So sometimes they'll also deploy a
tiny camera or possibly an overlay over the keypad. So
if you wheel up on one of these devices and

(53:40):
it looks like it's been tampered with in any way,
including like the keypad looks funny. It looks like there's
something laid over the keypad where if you could potentially
see a camera. Now I get this is a lot
to look for. You know, these guys want to place
a camera so they can see you type in your pin,
or they want to put an overlay over the keypad
so they can capture that pin. It gets tricky, and

(54:01):
you know, as they have to apply these other devices,
there's more likelihood to get caught. It sounds like, you know,
these guys got caught pretty quickly, but it's certainly something
to be on the lookout for. You know, A general
recommendation I would make to people is to try to
always use a device where it's in eyesight of another

(54:22):
human being. You know, pick the pump that's closest to
the cashiers. Pick the pump where you know there are
security cameras. Again, it doesn't have to be a gas pump,
though it could be an ATM. It could, it could.
Even in this case, it sounds like they weren't tramping
with the gas pumps. They were actually tampering with the
credit card readers inside the building. So it's a tricky
problem to solve, but if you know it's a thing,

(54:45):
at least you can be more cautious and potentially use
a credit card to avail yourself of the consumer protections
with credit cards versus debit cards.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I'm glad I was anticipating asking you about that. A
reminding listeners uniform commercial code protects you you're only liable
for fifty bucks if someone abuses your credit card, not
the case when you're using your pin and having the
money taken directly out of your bank account. That's danger
zone right there. That is a really, really bad idea.
And I guess these card readers, you said, someone needs
to maybe have a video camera to see your pin

(55:14):
or something. Can't they, you know, like record what numbers
you're typing in when you're putting your pin in with
these device readers.

Speaker 7 (55:23):
Probably not with it, and I can't say for sure,
but with the reader itself, you know, typically it's just
electronic Okay, an electronic device is trying to read the magstright.
You know, the keypad is separate, but in many cases
they'll put like a little overlay over it so it looks,
you know, it's another keypad sitting over top of the
real keypads, So when you punch your number in, they're

(55:44):
capturing it from that, or they're placing a camera somewhere
where they can see the keypad so they can capture
that pin.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Gotcha. And of course we can't end the segment without saying,
you know, with regard to the reading of your card,
just by being near you Faraday wallet, right, Yes.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
That's always a good thing. They saw the d blocking wallets.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, just type in Amazon. You just got I know
you people hate Amazon or love it either way. Just
type in RFID wallet or something and maybe even I'm
presuming they make purses along the same way Faraday purses
and you there you go. You'll be protected at least
from that type of shenanigans. We'll bring day back. We'll
talk about users apparently not liking or saying no to
the Windows eleven upgrade six thirty six right now, fifty

(56:26):
five krsit talk talk station. It's six forty fifty five
krsit the talk station doing that Tech Friday with Dave
Hatter brought to you again by intrust it online at
interest dot com. I haven't been I haven't used Windows
and I can't remember how long. It's been more than
a decade. I went Apple and for a different couple

(56:48):
of reasons. But so I'm no longer hipped to the
whole Windows upgrade thing. But why are users saying no
to the Windows eleven upgrade?

Speaker 7 (56:56):
Dave Hatter, Well, Rian, I think it's a combination of
the you know, first off, people get comfortable with the
way a particular operating system works and don't want to change.
I think people also don't really understand the risk of
having end of life systems, you know, whether it's Windows, Linux,
mac Apple, iOS, Android, whatever, or a particular piece of

(57:17):
software like Chrome. For what it's worth, if you still
use Google Chrome, I suggest you drop that, by the way,
and switch to a privacy friendly browser like a Brave, Firefox,
Tour or Safari. But if you still use Chrome, critical
updates came out the other day. My point being when
you have end of life software or software that needs
to be updated, end of life means the manufacturer is
no longer putting out any updates, right, So it doesn't

(57:39):
really matter what the platform of software is. Once you
hit that point, then you are, over time increasing your
risk of some sort of attack against that vulnerability because
the bad guys will find them and the manufacturer's not
fixing them. Windows ten went end of life in October.
So whether it's people don't want to switch because they're
familiar with Windows ten, they don't want to spit the money.

(58:00):
In some cases to upgrade from Windows ten to Windows
eleven you need to get a new computer because the
older hardware will not support Windows eleven, or it's they
don't understand the risk. I think those are probably the
four main reasons. Apparently from some recent reporting and some
information that came from Dell, obviously one of the large
PC manufacturers out there for the Windows operating system, there

(58:22):
are a huge number of people who so far, despite
Windows ten going into life in October, have not made
the leap to Windows eleven yet. And again as time
goes on, that's a bigger and bigger problem.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Well, I mean, I get all the points you're making,
but insofar as ten versus eleven, to your initial point,
people don't like the change or the look or whatever,
are they that dramatically different?

Speaker 7 (58:48):
In my opinion, No, Brian, But you know again, people
get used to something and then stuff gets moved around.
They don't like the way it looks, and you know
it in my opinion, Now you know me, mister tinfloy
hat guy. Here, I'm going to tell you that the
security risks to you, especially if you're not very technical
and you're not doing other things to mitigate those risks,

(59:11):
the security risks to you by not switching would well
outweigh the inconvenience you're going to experience for the first
several days while you get used to it. Now you know,
people have other issues with Windows eleven. It's got a
lot more let's say it's less privacy friendly than older versions. Again,
all of these big tech companies have their issues, but

(59:33):
just from a simple security perspective, not having an operating system,
since that's the fundamental part that drives everything else you
do on your device. And again this would be Apple, iOS, Android, Mac,
whatever you're using. If you hit a point where you
can't get updates anymore over time, you are going to

(59:54):
substantially put yourself at risk because there are bad guys
always looking for flaws. These things millions of lines of
code in them. There are flaws that are yet to
be discovered. I mean, Microsoft patch Tuesday once a month
usually is fixing dozens of things, not all security related.
You know, when you look at the Apple patches for
iOS for your phone, usually dozens of things are fixed.

(01:00:17):
As time wears on and those don't get fixed, you're
putting yourself at risk. And now you may decide get
off Windows and go to Mac, use Linux, do something different,
but if you're still running Windows ten or worse, something
like Windows eight or Windows seven, you are at substantial risk.
With these older operating systems if you don't upgrade them.
I mean just reading this Forbes article that I sent

(01:00:38):
to Joe about this, right, the headline is security disaster,
five hundred million Microsoft users saying no to Windows eleven,
and then you know it goes on to say Microsoft's
looming security disaster is worse than feared. Those aren't my words,
this is from Forbes. The staggering billion Windows users are
at risk is the sheer scale of the task. You know,
goes on YadA, YadA, YadA, but they're just pointing out

(01:01:00):
that you really need to get off Windows ten and
anything older than that. Absolutely, you need to get something different.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Well, that five hundred million figure serves to prove the
point that you dis made. That's why the criminals are
out there looking for ways to exploit old, no longer
serviced operating systems. A lot of people have resisted so
much it makes them an easy target.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
That's exactly right, Brian, And I want to point something
else out too. Now. Again, I'm not here to advocate
for any particular platform at this point, right, I'm mostly
Windows based. Most of our customers and Windows base, that's
how most business operates. But all of that said, there
are many choices at this point. Again, even something like chromos. Now,
I'm not going to use products from Google if I

(01:01:41):
can help it. But you got Linux, you got Mac.
There's a lot of choices. But to your point, you know,
one of the reasons why Windows is more attack than
others is because it has the largest user base. Right,
If I'm a criminal and I want to steal your
money or your data or ideally both, do I want
to go after the smallest possible platform, where you know
I have less opportunities, or do I want to go

(01:02:03):
after the largest platform. So again, I'm not not saying
Windows doesn't have its issues. I'm just saying one of
the reasons why it's more attacked is because it is
a much larger user base. And as these systems become obsolete,
as you build up this technical debt, as you have
these systems that can't be patched, of course they're going
to go after those because it's easier for them than

(01:02:24):
the latest and greatest version of whatever operating system that's
got all the latest and greatest security stuff in it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Well, I'll tell you what. We'll pause now and we'll
continue an attack on Google coming up next, Dave's Favorite
Company six forty six. Right now for Cey Talks Station.
I'm looking at him. He's in studio, Congressman Brad Well.
I'm sorry, Citizen Brad winsor I still want to call
him a Congressman. Will be talk in a full hour
in the next segment with him. In the meantime, Tech
Friday's Dave hatters on yet another reason to hate Google.
It's a real grabbing headline. Google starts sharing all your

(01:02:54):
text messages with your employer. Well, there's a red flag, Dave.

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
What Well, Well, Brian, you know the sort of typical
of clickbait headlines. Now, you know forb Forbes generally puts
out pretty good information in this space. You know, I
read a lot, and particularly this author, Zach Dorfmann. He's
pretty good in this privacy and security space. I understand
what he's saying. It's not quite as dire as it

(01:03:20):
makes this sound. And really it boils down to how
text works. Right. If you and I are both sending
messages to each other over Apple phones, they're into end
encrypted because that's the way Apple text works. Okay, But
if you're on an Android phone and I'm on an
Apple phone. Well, they work differently, so the end to
end encryption potentially goes away. And since the original version

(01:03:43):
of text people can think back to their flip phones
and how limited that was. Different protocols have been built
to allow the exchange of more rich information, right, things
like pictures and files and that sort of thing. Right,
so that's come on over time. Well, again, how Apple
does it versus how Android does it is different. One
of the protocols to make that work without getting too
nerdy is something called RCS Rich Communication Services, which basically

(01:04:08):
allows you to do things like see when the other
person is typing again, stuff that Apple's had for a
long time. This works back and forth even if you're
not on an Apple phone, voice messages, file sharing, group chats,
all this sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
So RCS in and of itself is a good thing
that allows you to be more compatible between different types
of texting systems. The problem, though, is is this article
points out, if you know, most people are understand that
email is sort of inherently insecure unless it's encrypted, and
then it's easy to monitor. Most people sort of think, Okay,

(01:04:43):
if I'm texting, my employer can't necessarily see that, and
what they point out here and again why I say
it's a little bit clickbaity is because if you have
an employer supplied phone, right, they can turn on a
feature in the management of the phone that would allow
them to archive your text messages. Right, so they you

(01:05:03):
and I both have Android phones. Let's say we're texting
each other. Well, if that phone is supplied by the
company and they choose to turn on this feature, they
can archive my text messages. They're not really private. Now,
I would argue, and I think you probably would to Brian.
If the employer supplies the phone, just like anything else
they supply, well, they have the right to monitor it.
They're going to do what they want with it. I

(01:05:23):
think that the thing that this guy is trying to
warn about with this article is many people think that,
you know, they hear into end encryption, they talk about
apps like What's Happened Signaling this sort of thing, and
they think their texts are secure. And if you have
an I would argue, if you have an employer supplied device,
the employer can put tools on that device and ultimately
read anything they want. So I think this is just

(01:05:45):
a it's a good warning for Folks, if you're on
Android and your phone is supplied by your employer, don't
assume that they can't access your text messages or you
might have some trouble on your hands depending on what
you're doing. But even better, Brian, I would just say this,
anything you do electronically can be can be accessed. Don't
assume anything you're doing in any electronic form is ultimately

(01:06:07):
private to you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Well, I thought you're going to have a go at Google,
like Tom calls everyone who says, don't vote Democrat, don't
use Google.

Speaker 7 (01:06:15):
Well, you know, if you're in a situation where that's
what your employer gives you, you may not have a choice.
So you know, you need to understand what could be
happening here. And you know this this is I'm reading
from this Forbes article. Google says this is a quote dependable,
Android supported solution for message archival, which is backwards compatible
with SMS and MMS message as well. Employees will see

(01:06:35):
a clear notification on their device when the archival feature
is active, So that's good news. You know, if you
have an employer's supply device and they turn this feature on,
it will tell you that. But I also get a
lot of people don't understand all this stuff, aren't paying attention. Again,
I think the real heads up is if you're an
Android phone user and your device is supplied by your employer,
understand that any text messaging you're doing on that device

(01:06:58):
may be accessible by your employer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Right, So don't act accordingly exactly Now there's the underscoring
legitimately across the board, shenanigans and problems people might find
themselves in if they do text information in the world
that they don't want anybody else to read. I mean,
I find people are so dumb when it comes to
that they're leaving. They're leaving a trail of evidence for
anybody down the road. So don't engage in untoward activities

(01:07:24):
whatever those might be, and documented on text. How's that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Yes? And again you know, if you're if you're worried
about this, get your own phone, use third party apps
like Signal, which I would recommend over What's happened because
that's from our friends at Meta. But also at the
bottom line is even if things are in and encrypted,
even if they're configured correctly, if you and I are
messaging each other to signal Brian and we're doing something illegal.

(01:07:51):
Once law enforcement has my device, if they can unlock
the device, well it unlocks the encryption, and that's the
content of my signal messages. So again, I think people's
watch TV and they hear about end encryption and all
this security and privacy. But at the end of the day,
if I can unlock your device, will I unlock the
encryption that protects as messages? I have them all. So again,

(01:08:11):
understand what this all really means, Think about what privacy
is in today's world, and act accordingly. If you're doing
something illegal or something you don't want other people to know,
you can't assume that just because something is encrypted, that
it is protected, Because if I can unlock your encryption,
I have it all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Hey man, interest it dot comments, we find David the crue. Dave,
thank you for you sponsoring this segment that is so
valuable and so informative and important. We'll do it again
next Friday. Have a great week between now and then,
and a wonderful weekend on top of it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
Always my pleasure, Brian, I look forward to chatting with
you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Citizen Brad Weinstrop in studio where you're talking to him
for a full hour plenty of topics to talk about
with Brad.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
Right back.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Today's top headlines coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Seven oh six. Share if you have KRCD talk station.
I'm very happy Friday Extra Special Friday, at least from
my perspective, but I hope you share my perspective in studio,
Former Congressman brad Winstrip, Citizen Brad web Strip, you still
have your license practice medicine because I want to talk
about healthcare with you. Welcome back, Brad. It's always great
seeing you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:40):
Yeah, thank you, Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
And I am.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
I remind people it's doctor brad Winstrip, so.

Speaker 9 (01:09:48):
Yeah, and you know I'm still engaging here and there
academically and especially but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Yeah, and a consulting love.

Speaker 10 (01:09:56):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Out in the world, I understand you have new employment,
new means of income, but it involves the medical profession
generally speaking.

Speaker 9 (01:10:02):
A lot of it at national security and security.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Which we're going to get to as well, because we're
seeing venezuela and tankers. Now we're dropping bombs on venezuel
and drug dealers, and some really good success with Trump's
trade policies, our trade deficit has narrowed substantially. More exports
from our country fewer imports into our country. The tariffs,
in spite of all the you know, the whaling and

(01:10:27):
gnashing of teeth about tariff, apparently is now starting to
bear some fruit for our benefits. So putting that aside
for a moment, we'll get to that. Yes we will
if we have done as expected. And now, of course,
they had to vote on these various healthcare proposals, you know,
extending these subsidies under Obamacare or coming up with an
alternative solution. Both the Republicans and the Democrats senate versions

(01:10:49):
of these you know, efforts both got shot down. We
all expected that to happen. So we're back to square one.
I guess at this point we only bought until what
the eighteenth of December in terms of keeping the government
open under the continuing resolution that exists. I seem to
recall that being the case, they had to work out
trying to hammer out the balance of the appropriations bills

(01:11:09):
during this window of opportunity they're going to.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Try to yeah luck right, Yeah, well you know they
are moving. I will I will say that the people
on appropriations are working hard. I will tell you that,
but that's because it's under Republican control right now, But
that doesn't mean that it won't still end up in
some kind of end of your bill, an omnibus, well
an omnibus or another cr which we've gotten so used to.

(01:11:33):
I just don't know why we don't have a collection
of people on both sides of the aisle that feel
it's their obligation and duty to get this done one
way or another, even if you don't like everything that's
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
It's one of the core job functions of being a
US House Representatives member work on the twelve appropriations bills.
What other jobs do you really have by way of
I mean, if you had a list and do a
responsibility memo or something. Working on twelve appropriations bills and
getting them done on a calendar year basis is like
first and foremost, and.

Speaker 9 (01:12:05):
I have seen it done. But sometimes it's just on
not all twelve, but a lot of them, and we'll
package those together. And right now I do see that
Republicans are working hard to do that, because when we
have the majority like that, especially in the House, we
get them done. Now you get over the Senate, and
that's another situation a lot of times, but that's the
way our government was made up and we have to

(01:12:27):
recognize that. But onto healthcare. Yeah, as you were talking about,
the situation is such like the Affordable Care Act is
not anything Republicans ever supported, right, they didn't support it
to begin with. And the idea of these subsidies, as
the Democrats promoted it during COVID was this is just
during COVID, this is temporary. They put the end date

(01:12:49):
on that under the guys that after COVID, we won't
really need it. But the fact of the matter is
they do need it to carry out their plan to
keep it going, and includes things like increasing health premiums
for the majority of the consumers to subsidize the minority
with expensive medical conditions, et cetera. That's somewhat the nature

(01:13:11):
of insurance anyway, I get that. But the way this
is set up, it's just increasing the cost. It's only
benefiting insurance companies for them to want to take on
the Affordable Care Act as it exists. But the Democrats

(01:13:31):
want these additional subsidies rather than recognizing that the Affordable
Care Act was a failure. It's not affordable. It isn't
it never was going to be the way it was
set up, And you could see that. Yet you know,
it doesn't matter. Well, they'll just call it affordable.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Lord knows how it might have worked out. But the
rug was pulled out from under. And when the Supreme
Court did its original analysis of the constitutionality of it
in the first place, right out of the gate eve,
in spite of the fact that they found that attacks
wasn't attacks, and they ultimately upheld it, they shot down
the commerce clause argument. Democrats are trying to use the

(01:14:06):
commerce clause in the United States Constitution to say that
they could use it to force you to buy something. Now,
they can prevent you from doing something under the commerce
clause engaging in commercial activity and traveling across state lines,
blah blah blah, but they can't make you, was the
pronouncement from the Supreme Court. And once we weren't mandated
to buy it and they couldn't force us to buy it,

(01:14:28):
the house of cards collapsed on itself.

Speaker 9 (01:14:29):
Yeah, which is obviously what Republicans pursued too. Was the
individual mandate, Yeah, because then you know, you're purchasing something
basically at gunpoint or threat why with threat with threat
of going to jail basically, And you know, but but
Donald Trump his first action. Donald Trump during his first term,

(01:14:50):
he in many ways solved a lot of this by
getting the so called short term health insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
There.

Speaker 9 (01:15:03):
Trump's clarification needs to be a permanent law where people
have options to buy outside of the Affordable Care Act
and have them available and so you can buy something
that allows you to say, get catastrophic insurance or meet
your needs and nuns don't have to buy insurance for contraception.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Well, if you're outside of Obamacare and you're not obligated
to work with Obamacare, buy and Obamacare plan. You've got
two hundred plus medical insurance providers out in the world.
That's what I speak for Cover Sincy. He's an insurance
broger for medical insurance. There are hundreds of companies out there.
You don't have to You can buy just a catastrophic
policy period. That's it. You don't have to buy anything else.

(01:15:46):
You might be really in a gem if you have
some other problems. You're not going to have your your
day to day regular checkups covered. Your you know, maybe
emergency visits won't be covered, but you know, if you
get clobbered with a cancer diagnosis, whatever, you might have
coverage for something like that. But nobody can force you
to buy something. Nobody can force you to buy Obamacare. Ergo,
you don't have to buy this full plate of benefits

(01:16:07):
that Obamacare provides that costs so much damn money. I mean,
there is an open market out there, have a choice.

Speaker 9 (01:16:15):
Yes, you know, the same people that are have for
decades been screaming about choice are often trying to give
people no choice on other matters.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yeah, and the fact that there's not enough education out
there about how the insurance market works makes people think
that I'm only stuck with either what my employer provides me,
which if you've got an employer covered policy, then you
know you're a leg up on a lot of Americans.
That's a good thing, I guess for a lot of reasons.
I mean itolets market a little bit. There's some downsides
for that, but whatever. But if you're not covered by

(01:16:44):
an employer policy, you're not stuck having to choose an
Obamacare plan. You know, you can go to a different
medical insurance provider and buy only what you need.

Speaker 9 (01:16:54):
Yeah, isn't that an ad for an insurance company.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
It's an ad for cover sensing, and I'm happy to
give it to them for free, just because that's what
they do. And there are other brokers out in the
world that may do the same thing as is my
friends that covered since you, but you know, they pay
to support the show, and I'm just explaining to you
what they do, which is a reflection of the fact
that there is a market out there that has nothing
to do with Obamacare exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:17:15):
And you can and you know, the federal courts agreed
the federal law allows for both to exist. Yeah, so
let's put that though, clarify it in law, and without
an agency trying to strike it down in the process
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah, we are our own worst enemy when it comes
to this. I mean, and let's reveal the elephant in
the room that I mentioned many times before. First off,
because that mandate that you must engage in commercial activity
that you didn't want to do, forcing you to buy
the Obamacare shot down as unconstitutional. That blew up what

(01:17:53):
the ultimate goal here. The Democrats want to keep this alive.
It's on life support already. These supplements only make it
appealing as an option because the premiums disappear. It's magic,
it's free. No, the American taxpayer is covering and all
that money's going to the insurance companies. So it just
shattered their dream of what I call Medicaid for all,

(01:18:17):
which is what they wanted. They wanted every man, wanting
child in the United States to be insured under one
single thing. That would be Obamacare. And it's going to
be a boiled down form of Medicare i e. Medicaid,
less coverage, less service, and of course the one size
fits all get in line like a Soviet breadline. Reality
of medicine that would bring about.

Speaker 9 (01:18:36):
Medicaid has at least success on health than any plan
because it's not readily accessible. Not everyone takes it. This
is what you would you would see it has the
highest mortality and morbidity, and you will see people argue
about medicaid and say, well, people are much healthier because
they have Medicaid. Well you're saying they're healthier because they

(01:18:57):
have medicaid compared to nothing, Right, it's not what we're
talking about. But we're not talking about having nothing available, talking.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
About something that actually does what it's supposed to. Anyway,
we'll continue with citizen Brad windsorrip doctor Brad winsterup in
a moment, got a part company here, just mentioned twenty
two three on round four two between Mason and eleven,
and he talks Station Brien. Tim's here with well, he
served his country. He probably continued to serve as country

(01:19:25):
serve in the American military. He's a doctor. He's Brad Winsor,
a former congressman and also someone who had his high
level security clearance. You're on the Security Council right, and.

Speaker 9 (01:19:35):
I was on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
and now serving on the President's Intelligence Advisory Board. I
don't speak for either as I sit here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Okay, fair enough. I was really impressed. I saw this
article just yesterday. Israel is unveiled and has used and
successfully deployed in combat this thing they call iron Beam.
It's a super high power laser lock on targets and
just a fraction of a second, and considering lasers traveled
to speed of light, they can blow missiles out of

(01:20:06):
the sky with it. It's worked, and it costs between
a buck and two bucks in terms of energy usage
to operate it. This seems to me to be a
complete game changer, like drones were a game changer in warfare.
We're not going to be making patriot missiles pretty soon,
because if you can use this successfully and deploy this successfully,

(01:20:26):
this technology is a absolute total game changer in war.
Drones can be shot out of the sky. And I'm
just kind of wondering, and you may not have any
information about I'm not pressing you for that. If this stuff,
this technology as developed, can work on hypersonic missiles as well,
which pose the greatest threat. From my standpoint, you can
chime in on that if you choose to. But if
you can shoot hypersonic missiles out of the sky with

(01:20:47):
this man, this is this is revolutionary.

Speaker 9 (01:20:50):
Well, we're always looking for point counterpoint, right, Yeah, no
matter what someone has, do we have it and can
we negate them? You know, that's a countermeasure, measures and countermeasures.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Develop this with the Israelis and they use one point
five billion dollars of our money to help develop this,
and they've shared this with us, according to the reporting.

Speaker 9 (01:21:07):
According to the reporting. And look, the idea of iron
Dome was in this same vein. It's always like, what
can we do that may be better and cheaper, especially right,
and so you want to pursue these types of measures.
I've always had this in the back of my mind
and sometimes I would I would express it that is

(01:21:27):
there a better way than just a significantly kinetic force
against this, but have the same result, if not better result, right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Right, So and cheaper, unlimited as long as you have electricity,
this will keep firing, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:21:43):
Yeah, And you also want to look, you know what
is the cost, right, how many dollars are going out
compared to So they're spending dollars on a drone, but
it costs a whole lot more for us to shoot
it out of the sky with, like you said, patriot
missile or something like a million dollars a pop. Yeah,
so you can break the bank, which is what we
did during the Cold War, right, We bostally basically broke

(01:22:05):
the Soviet Union's bank because we had technologies and advancements
that they just could not keep up with.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Right, And so the Cold War basically.

Speaker 9 (01:22:14):
Came to an end. So this would be a huge thing.
I don't think it developed overnight, so it was probably
the making for some time decades. But I give credit.
If it is there and it's capable. They did a
good job of keeping it quiet because you certainly don't
want the enemy starting to work on it as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Well, And you can't deny that the enemy's working on
as laser beams have been around forever, and they've been
working on high powered lasers for a long time. The
problem was the size, the portability, the speed of target acquisition.
Guess what, we have modern computers that process data instantaneously now,
so with gradually over time, you've shrunk the size of
these You've made them more powerful, and you've allowed for

(01:22:57):
locking into for targets in great accurate at least as
demonstrated by the Israelis in this iron beam situation. And
one can only imagine it's going to get better and better.
I guess pivoting over and I know we're gonna need
aircraft for a long time. But if the iron beam
can shoot a high speed weapon out of the sky,
I imagine it could lock in on a oh, I

(01:23:19):
don't know, jet plane going nine hundred miles an hour
F forty five. We got a huge appropriation for the
development of a new replacement for the F thirty five.
These things come in at a billion dollars or whatever.
A pop boom gone in a fraction of a second.

Speaker 9 (01:23:33):
Yeah, Unfortunately, we have adversaries that are always seeking nefarious
ways to take us out, and our job is to
continually try to counter that. And now you're talking. It's
interesting you bring that up because now you're talking about
something that we control from land. It is the Israeli
army that has worked on the Iron Dome and manipulates

(01:23:53):
the Iron Dome. And I've gone to Israel and seen
what they were able to do. But that's very expensive
to shoot these things out the skies. But you may
be seeing the videos, especially at night time, as these
missiles are coming in. It looks like fireworks, it looks
like orchestrated fireworks. It's like boom, boom, boom. They're just
knocking them down out of the sky over their own land, right.

(01:24:14):
So pretty effective tool where maybe two out of one
hundred get through well, but there's cost to that, and
if you can reduce that cost and have a more
efficient system, that is a wonderful thing for us to
be able to have. And the Israelis are constantly on guard.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
And they're a good partner to have, apparently a favorite
of a lot of countries around the world. The eighth
largest arms exporter in the world, the Israelis are country
the size of New Jersey.

Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
Well it's innovation nation there, that's what they call themselves,
and you know they do that. They probably have fewer
regulations on their innovations.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
I imagine, and it does help when you got one
point five billion dollars in the United States capital going
into a program like this Iron Beam. But to the
extent it works the way it's been described, I'd say
well worth the investment. Seven twenty six. Right now more
with brad Winstrup, Citizen brad Winsterrup. After I mentioned my
friends at four seven thirty here pet about kercdcalk station.

(01:25:14):
A very happy Friday to you, brad Winsterp, Citizen brad Winsterrip,
doctor brad Winstrop, former Member of Congress, brad Winstrop and
studio talking. And he still got a security clearance, so
he's got all kinds of details that you and I
aren't privy to. But he is informed and since he's
been there and done that, he's a perfect person to
comment on what's going on in the world. I love, honestly,

(01:25:36):
one can like being correct. I kind of feel over
the years I might have gone out on a limb
a little bit to make my opinions known about what
I believe in terms of this theory of global climate change.
And I have always always pointed out, I think what
is a demonstrable objective fact that carbon dioxide is not

(01:25:59):
a pollute It is a naturally occurring thing. It's part
of our atmosphere, and it's plant food. Plants thrive and
live on our exhalation. Without it, plants would die. But
they also give life giving oxygen in return for the
carbon dioxide that you and I give them. Will lo
and behold we have every single day, it seems more

(01:26:20):
and more information. Now we have this science journal Nate
Journal Nature retracting what was described as a catastrophic climate
change study. We're all gonna die a la al gore
greta Thunberg, Oh my god. And it's like, well, wait
a minute, we were wrong. After so many organizations and
these these Green New Deal type leeches and NGOs out

(01:26:41):
in the world sucking up our tax dollars relied on
the study to make the argument that they were worthy
of receiving our dollars. Well, guess what, pull the plug
on that one because it wasn't true. But there's a
lot of articles like that that have been retracted after
already going out into the world. You know, we can
go back to the hockey stick, and they've since retracted that,
which seemed to be the genesis of this whole thing.

(01:27:02):
So what's your take on this and the throat slitting
that goes on. We were talking about war between Russia
and Ukraine and the break there brad and mentioned Germany's economy.
I said, well, they cut their own throat. You had
comment about Russia might have been jealous because they had
such a thriving, booming economy in the European Union. Germany
was the outlier, one of the biggest economies in the world.
Guess what, they can't keep the lights on anymore because

(01:27:24):
they pursued these policies. There's something really nefarious behind the
scenes on this, and I don't hear about it as
much anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:27:30):
How about you, Well, they know you don't. But they
also became dependent on Russian oil and things like that
because they put themselves in this situation, and then we
under the Biden administration, ate it and embedded that because
we reduced our outputs so tremendously and the rest is

(01:27:51):
basically history. But you know, you point to something there
you mentioned, was it Nature magazine?

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
One of the studies.

Speaker 9 (01:28:00):
And you know, there are so many things I am
finding out and have found out, especially during COVID because
as I was chairing the Pandemic Committee, we did a
hearing on scientific journals basically, and they were what they
were putting out and what was their process. And you
saw things being published that really weren't peer reviewed, that

(01:28:21):
really weren't tried and tested. And there is a site
you can go to that has retractions of scientific articles.
And that's not just one or two here and there.
I mean there are many. And of course so many
people go on what ends up in a journal and
in a magazine and take it as gospel. And so

(01:28:45):
you can have situations where you know you're going to
get published even though you know this isn't even that
great of a scientific process that you used, and therefore
it sticks because it meets your agenda, and then later
it's re tracted. Well how much later, how much later
when was that Nature article put out? I don't know,

(01:29:05):
maybe it's in that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Piece that you're referring to, Brian, but this s four research,
so pretty rests Damn Institute of Climate Impact Research, and
lord knows from the name of the entity that did
the initial study. You know the outcome of the study
before you read the study itself. Oh, if they're the
Institute for Climate Impact Research, weny guess they believe that
carbon dioxide is going to kill us.

Speaker 9 (01:29:29):
Yeah. And I can remember too having a hearing on
Ways and Means, not when Republicans were running the committee,
but as the effects of climate change on health, and
so they were trying to say, you know, it's destroying
our health. We're not healthy people because of all this
terrible climate change. And and of course that is then
addressing the evils of energy outside of solar panels and windmills.

(01:29:53):
And I said, have you walked through a hospital and
seen how reliant it is on energy? And do you
know that when Puerto Rico, for example, had two hurricanes
and storms, they had to run on generators to keep
people alive. So are you you know how actually are
you thinking about this? Energy saves lives.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Plastics generally speaking, what would the world be if you've
got rid of fossil fuels completely and eradicated them A
la Gretathonberg's wishes and desires? Hell that boat she floats
around and wouldn't even exist because it's made up a
bunch of plastics.

Speaker 9 (01:30:29):
I was in Chicago years ago when they had a
brown out. I mean it was so hot. I was
up there for a Reds Cubs game, and it was
so hot that there was a brown out across the city. Brian,
do you know that five hundred people died in their
homes and apartments from the heat.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Yeah, we say annually more people die from heat than cold.

Speaker 9 (01:30:52):
And therefore they're dying from a lack of energy because
they had air conditioners. But there was a brown out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Right, it didn't work.

Speaker 9 (01:31:00):
Yeah, so you got to look at all sides of
the issue, and not only that. As you said, what
is wrong with photosynthesis?

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Nothing here? We learned about it in second grade or
something like that. Didn't we the circle at the excellent.

Speaker 9 (01:31:12):
As it was a circle?

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:31:14):
Yeah, see how it worked.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Look what God created for us into those so called
experts who say that this climate change is having a
detrimental impact on our health. Over this whole period of industrialization,
since we became industrialized and turned to the nineteen hundreds,
right the industrial revolution we started using fossil fuels, has
life expectancy increased or decreased? Well, rhetorical question.

Speaker 9 (01:31:39):
In many sectors though it's decreased, and that's because of overdoses. Unfortunately,
that has nothing to do with climate change.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Overall. We live a hell of a lot longer than
we used to, so we do. And look, I'm heart
of carbon dioxide and.

Speaker 9 (01:31:52):
I'm for clean water, clean air, you know, especially as
the doctor, my goodness, we all want that those are pollutant.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
You're referring to. I don't want led in the water, mercury.
I don't what are you eating that stuff? But that
has nothing to do with what they're trying to eradicate,
which is again not a pollutant. We'll continue with Citizen
Frad Winster for a little out of time in this
segment seven thirty seven right now, kersee talk station, Very

(01:32:18):
happy Friday to you, former Congressman, Citizen Brad winsterrip, Doctor
Brad winstermin Studio. Just kind of going through all the
issues that we can get in during this hour. And
you brought up but think a rather unusual topic, but
what an amazing tragedy, what a horrific fire, the fire
in Hong Kong. You brought that up over the break.
You said you wanted to hit a point or two
to raise about that.

Speaker 9 (01:32:37):
Well, you know, obviously extremely in a tragic situation. I mean,
it was a tremendous tragedy. If you've seen any of
the pictures and you know that people were trapped inside.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
That fire, horrific.

Speaker 9 (01:32:47):
It really looks like the Twin Towers on nine to eleven. Yeah,
and they may not have collapsed in the same way,
but just just a horrific situation. But what's amazing. And
I was in Hong Kong before the actual ultimate takeover
of Hong Kong July ninety seven. Well that's when it
was authorized that the fifty year Plan, if you recall,

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but I was there before.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
They came in of the Chinese.

Speaker 9 (01:33:16):
The Chinese came in and said we're now taking this over.
So they were still somewhat autonomous, but now they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
What was a source of massive revenue for the Chinese
Communist Party. They didn't want to touch it, but they
had to because it was inconsistent with their business vlosity.

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
Yeah, I mean the world is changing too. I mean
you look at the world of finance. You know, you
used to say New York, London, Tokyo, Hong Kong, right,
Hong Kong. Yeah right, it was part of it. Now
Hong Kong is just another Chinese city, and it's very
clear when you see what happened here. They established the
Office for Safeguarding National Security, which came out of the

(01:33:53):
Hong Kong National Security Law, which was brought out in
twenty twenty, which is just China saying we're we're in
charge here, right, and in this result of this fire,
you know, we're normally here, you're looking at who's responsible. Right,
We're going to go in and say and there'll be
all kinds of accusations or at least questions asked. But

(01:34:14):
there they officials accused international media organizations of spreading false
information and telling them literally on their website, they warned
for foreign correspondence, exercise self discipline, take care of yourselves,
and do not touch the legal red lines. In other words,
be careful what you say about anything that may indicate

(01:34:36):
that the government was not prepared for something like this
and had had some things wrong. And the other thing
that is, you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Don't have free speech on the CCP exactly run the
risk of getting arrested or maybe being disappeared, and I
hate that word. If you don't do if you don't
follow the line.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
They were determined to eliminate any independent voices on this
that might question the official narrative. The other thing, Brian
is like NGOs and local community groups, normally they would
have coordinated for displaced residents and things like this, But
this Hong Kong is different now, and they're under one

(01:35:14):
one party rule obviously, and they treat any kind of
independent aid efforts with suspicion. So, you know, people in
this country need to know that when government has that
type of control, it's not a good thing. You think, well,
government can take.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Care of it. Well, FATIMA has been criticized many times,
but Joe Biden politicized FEMA denied resources to the red
state fill in the blank. But everybody got all the
money when they lived in Blue states. FEMA's abuse. Thank you.
You've got organizations like Matthew twenty five ministries who independently
can take contributions and provide one hundred percent of those
contributions where it is needed. How about that? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:35:55):
I love Coexist. I love the work that they do.
Go visit them and blew it. See what they do.
It's a perfect example of what people can do on
their own basically exactly they and they do it. But
in this case in Hong Kong, I mean any residents
who took to social media to condemn either lax enforcement

(01:36:17):
or mismanagement or corruption involving the building inspections they found
themselves facing legal warnings or police visits, some things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Gee hold on, let's pause because we got to take
a break. But that sounds remarkably like the European Union
these days. Seven forty six will maybe get a word
or two in from Brad winsterp on that after I
mentioned Zimmer heating and air conditioning for and thank you
for sponsoring the school. Seven fifty here if I do

(01:36:52):
you have KCD talk station Happy Friday. One more segment
with citizen Brad Winster tomorrow after the top of the
owning is Beverly Park Williams. She's a local author. It
has a really fascinating book about her mom and her
mom's sister, Parallel and Separate, a tale of two sisters
separated like really really young age. They didn't even know
what each other existed, and grew up on opposite sides

(01:37:12):
of the city of Cincinnati, and how their lives were
impacted and the differences between the two should be fun, Brad,
real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
We've got a sort of a decaying relationship with our
NATO allies. I know there be Trump's made some comments
about them. They are EU pretty much full on socialists,
so they didn't even share our ideology at least what
these left of our capitalist ideology. But what they have
been proving day in and day out, Like the United Kingdom,

(01:37:40):
they prosecute people for what we would call free speech,
what I would say innocuous statements. Someone feels threatened, they
get prosecuted for it. There is no free speech. There
a demonstrable difference between us and the freedoms we enjoy
under our constitution and what I would call oppression, oppression
by European governments against its own citizens.

Speaker 7 (01:38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:38:02):
I've seen some of those stories, Brian, and it's just
really amazing to me that this is actually taking place.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
That's the only reason I bring it up, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:38:09):
Within our allies, even within our five Eyes partners, which
would be Australia and New Zealand, But in the Brits,
I don't get it. I just don't understand it. You know,
why people are so willing to accept this those that
are in authority. I understand why they like it, Oh sure,

(01:38:32):
because this is their This goes to their elitism.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
If you will, only their answer is the correct one.
You can't have an alternative, varying point of view. This
happened to the Biden administration with agents in Facebook having
offices established censoring what we were saying online. You know,
we have a right to free speech in this country,
and even negative offensive speech is protected.

Speaker 9 (01:38:58):
People need to really look at what are found put
in place and why they put it in place. It
makes complete sense. And look, we were no taxation without representation,
that was the thing, but it was even beyond that,
and now it's I think we've gone even further beyond

(01:39:18):
that in some instances. But to see it over in
Europe is really interesting. And I think that what you're
seeing from the Trump administration too is a focus on
our hemisphere as much as anything. If you look at
where they are on defense posture, I think he's very
concerned about what's taking place in our hemisphere, which goes

(01:39:38):
back to Cuba having Russian missiles things like that. Right,
But we still, I think, you know, we can't ignore
the rest of the world, and the Trump has not
been doing that either.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
I was pleased to see the least in so far
as the seizure of the Venezuelan oil tanker. They got
a warrant in court ahead of time, and they're going
to go through the proper legal channels to confiscate the
oil and keep it. They're gonna have a legal process
for that. And that's the only concern I have, And
I know anger a lot of listeners because I'm a
constitutionalist and I believe in due process, and I'm worried
and concerned about not only the legality of but the

(01:40:13):
idea that a president might end up bringing us into
a war by launching missiles and things. But at least
in so far as the tanker is concerned, I understand
it's sanctioned. It's an illegal tanker in the sense it
was flying under a false flag. They got the approval
for the warrant and the boarding of the ship, and
they're going to go through that process. Now do you
think it's an appropriate thing? Because this is going to

(01:40:35):
regime change? This is the point of it. Oil is
what funds the entire venezuel and govern at least ninety
percent of it. As I've read that one ship. Apparently
five percent of these social outlays in a month with
the money that we got from that ship, or at
least the value of that ship. Are you in agreement
that we should engage in what is an obvious effort
to change the regime in Venezuela.

Speaker 9 (01:40:56):
Well, there was an effort to change the regime in Venezuela.
It was called an election, true, but what happened after
the election It was stolen. It was stolen, it was
completely taken away. So that's that's a good piece of
the argument, because the people there made change by their vote.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
And there's people at the radio screaming right now, going
our election was stolen back in time, right, Yeah, I'm
sure there are.

Speaker 9 (01:41:28):
Beware, right, beware of this type of process taking place
anywhere anywhere where they're claiming to have free and fair elections.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Going back to unilateral bombing, I always say, you know
what if Canada decides that someone in our country is
a terrorist and they drop a bomb on him and
buy he's in a mall or whatever. If there were
outside countries that believe the twenty twenty election was stolen
or any other election, they're going to start engaging in
regime change here huh, hey, hey, listen, what's good for

(01:41:56):
the good for the gander as well, at least getting
to the truth. Brian, always the concern, And you know
I always said, you know, I'm sitting in Congress when
all this is going on, like, I really don't have
a way to prove any of this because it's up
to the states that run the elections to police their
own and in Congress, you know, what can you do?

(01:42:18):
So it makes it very difficult, But I am always
in favor of getting to the truth, no matter what
the situation may be, good, bad, or indifferent the truth.
I mean, I went into the Russian collusion investigation. If
Trump did something wrong, we need to know because what
he didn't, they made it all up. See going back

(01:42:41):
to it, well, we always point the finger at the
evil doers in the Chinese Communist Party, or in North
Korea or in Iran, and we can look inwardly and
see comparable, if not equally offensive conduct and behavior. So
got to mind our own ship or store. We're gonna
end up losing it. It's been great, senior man, Christmas
to you and your family with the little kids in

(01:43:01):
the house, I bet it's a real exciting time over
your house.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
It is.

Speaker 9 (01:43:04):
It is fun. I feel blessed that I have these
two kids. They're just a joy, and you know they're kids,
don't get me wrong, but it's just a great thing.
And then Christmas time is especially special.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Yeah, I miss those times. I'm happy with what I got,
trust me and living my best life, but I really
miss the little kid company. Maybe someday I'll get a grandchild.
Lauren Eric seven fifty seven, Brad, take care of my brother.
It's great seeing you. Merry Christmas and we'll talk again
coming up with the next year, I hope.

Speaker 9 (01:43:35):
Oh absolutely, we always have more. Matter of fact, we
have more today.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
But we are just dreams of it. Stick around. We're
gonna hear from Beverly Park Williams with their new books.
She's a local author, parallel and separate after.

Speaker 6 (01:43:46):
The news, Today's top headlines coming.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Of course, So if future here in the fifty five
Kersey Morning Show from time to time local authors, I
think it's really cool. Do we have local authors. They
prove that, yes, you can write a book, you can
get a book published. And one of the women who's
going to explain how that is done in her impetus
behind writing and getting involved in writing. Beverly Park Williams,
it's Beverly. It's a pleasure to have you on the
program today.

Speaker 11 (01:44:20):
Thank you for this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Oh, it's my pleasure. I appreciate you forwarding a copy
of the book. I will admit upfront, I'm not going
to lie to you. I haven't had an opportunity to
read it yet. I note that the book Parallel But
and Separate. This is the name of your second book,
Parallel and Separate, A Tale of Two Sisters. Does this
book number two involve the same subject matter as your
first book, Separate but Parallel?

Speaker 11 (01:44:44):
Yes, actually the story both stories are about two sisters,
Janet and Shirley. The first book is really about Turley,
who is my mother. After I've moved her into a
nursing home in Anderson Township, I spent a lot of
time with her, and she began to tell me many

(01:45:06):
stories for life. And the stories became so numerous. I
purchased a handheld recorder and after more than two years
of recording, I transcribed almost three hundred pages of notes
and that became the first book.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
Well, and that's I guess primarily one of the reasons
I asked. This is not a short book. It's your
your separate book we're talking about today, parallel and separate.
It comes in at four hundred and fifty pages. This
is I guess, the story of Shirley and jen At
her sister. Shirley, you said already is your mom. They
were separated very close to birth. I guess your Your

(01:45:47):
mother was a newborn and your aunt was three years
old when they separated. But they both lived in the
Greater Cincinnati area, yet had no idea of each other's existence.
As I understand, it is that accurate.

Speaker 11 (01:46:00):
Yes, their families, both the father for Janet and the
mother for Shirley, kept it a secrets. So they were separated,
not knowing about one another, to be reunited seventy years later,
seven decades later.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
That is truly amazing. Now, they grew up differently. Not
only were they separated, not only did they not know
each other, and they grew up on opposite sides of
the town. They also were quite different in the socioeconomic upbringing,
were they not?

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
Yes, they were.

Speaker 11 (01:46:36):
Actually Janet was kept by her father and her father's
parents and they lived a fairly middle class life on
the West Side. When the grandfather separated the two sisters,
he thought that my mother would go with their mother
and live with their mother's relative. Fortunately, their mother had

(01:47:01):
been adopted by an elderly couple in Hyde Park, and
both the couple, the grandmother and the grandfather, were in
nursing home, so Shirley and her mother were pretty much
left to fend for themselves. On the East Side, Shirley
grew up in poverty.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
Oh so, I guess I'm wildly curious. Since they were
sisters obviously genetically linked, did they sort of I hate
these words, turn out after seventy years of life. Were
they different people? Different political philosophies obviously, maybe different socioeconomy,
because that depends on what they ended up doing for

(01:47:43):
a living. But personality wise, was there a consistency or
were they dramatically different people having lived these separate lives
when they finally met each other.

Speaker 11 (01:47:52):
Yeah, that's a great question because they were very different
because of growing up on the West Side. Her family
was Catholic, of course, and sent Janet to Catholic girls' school.
My mother and her mother were Protestant, and as they

(01:48:15):
came to know one another. Seventy years later, they realized
that I had very different political views.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Well, that's kind of the point I was coming I
was going to come to. I'm glad you brought it
up yourself, because I'm going to pry into the politics
of it. So different religious philosophy and then different political philosophies.
So I presume one Democrat one Republican was as simple
as boiling it down to that. Was there something beyond that?

Speaker 11 (01:48:41):
Now's that's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
East side was Republican, right, Yes, just like the West side.
You cander us expect it's going to be from a
Catholic family. Having grown up in del High I'm hip
to that. Beverly. There were two children in my mom
and dad's family, and there were mostly five and six
children in the balance of the neighborhoods face. I'll let
you do the math on who is Catholic and who wasn't.

(01:49:04):
So why will my listeners Beverly Williams, author of the
book Parallel and Separate, A Tale of Two Sisters? Why
will my listeners find your family history and the lives
of your mother and her sister growing up severally? A
fascinating story worthy of reading, Beverly.

Speaker 11 (01:49:21):
The reason is truly the setting of Cincinnati. In book
one for my mother and in book two for my
aunt Janet, they bring to the book memories from both
the West Side and the East Side, and I think people,
particularly in the local area can relate to those memories

(01:49:46):
as well as the incredible part of their memories also
of downtown Landmark. So you have to wonder did they
see each other on Fountain Square? Did they me one
another on a bus and not know that they were books?
And their grandfather and their father were the groundskeepers at

(01:50:10):
Coney Island, So Coney Island is a is somewhat of
a focus of both books. Now in book two, I
had the time. My mother had passed, so I had
the time to do research on where did their father's
ancestors come from and where did their mother's ancestors come from?

(01:50:33):
And I add that detail in book two.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Wonderful. So the very interesting and quite unusual story of
them being separated at such a young agent growing up
in the same town, but you know, not knowing each
other is a vehicle to bring in all of this,
you know, relevant Cincinnati area history, I suppose, is how
you boil that down. Yes, exactly, great well local historians,

(01:50:59):
and uh, I guess maybe Peter Bronson should read a
copy of this, since he writes local history. Relieved by
the way, Peter Bronson's new book was great. I finished
it the other day. You'll love it anyhow, So I
want to ask you, Beverly, what was and and maybe
you mentioned it before and I'm sorry I didn't process it,
But I'm curious to know why the Shirley and Janet

(01:51:21):
didn't know each other, Why they kept this sort of
a family secret, that that that you know they had
Aye had a sibling living across town. What happened to
prevent you your mom and her sister from knowing about
each other?

Speaker 11 (01:51:34):
They believed it was somewhat of a shameful issue that
the grandfather had separated the two sisters, especially not allowing
them to get to know one another, not allowing them
the same privileges in life. So what is what is

(01:51:57):
the reason? Betid my title? Both sisters grew up obviously
separate from one another, but as they become young working
women and then wives, and then mothers and even grandmothers
and then widows. During the time that they became reunited,
they realized that truly they were. They had lives more

(01:52:21):
in parallel to one another than they initially believed.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
How much time are they able to spend each other?
Did they create a friendship or a strong relationship after
meeting after seventy years? And how long were they around
if they did, in fact spend any time together? How
long were they around to do that.

Speaker 11 (01:52:39):
They did when they were both in there obviously their seventies.
They wrote to one another, they sent cards, they talked. Initially,
they tucked on the phone a lot, and had lunches
and dinners and even had a spontaneous crypt of Florida together.
But over time, as they become more and more elderly,

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they began to decline in their relationship. And once I
put my mother in a nursing home, their relationship really deteriorated.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
I'm sorry to hear that. But at least they got
to spend time together learn about each other, and you
got this fascinating story that obviously we're compelled to write about.
To the budding authors out there, people who think, oh,
there's no way I'm ever going to get published, can't
do it, How did you manage to is these are
the first books you've written?

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
Yes, okay they are.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
That's well, that's an accomplishment and in itself. So what
kind of what recommendation is a local author and is
it obviously a not well published yet anyway, would you
give the people who might be inspired to write a book,
or maybe who have been thinking about that, what would
you say to them?

Speaker 11 (01:53:49):
I would say go for it. I would say, if
you have a story that you believe in and can
add to it details and add to it some conversations
and interactions, especially with other people and settings like Cincinnati.
I was fascinated by places in Cincinnati both my mother

(01:54:13):
and my aunt Janet talked about I never knew of Yeah,
so I was able to go around this city and say, oh,
I didn't know about that, but what a wonderful area.
My Aunt Janet was fascinated with Miami Whitewater Forest. I
had never heard of that. So it was fun doing
the book, doing the research, and suddenly you have pages

(01:54:37):
and pages of good information to share.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Well, that's great, I guess today. Beverly Park, William's local
author Parallel and Separate Book two A Tela Two sisters
learn about the Greater Cincinnatier generally speaking of this fascinating
tale of the women who were separated at a very
young age and lived in the same town. You didn't
even know of each other's existence. Beverly, has been a
sweet opportunity to speak with you this morning, and I
appreciate you writing the book and inspiring other local authors

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maybe put pen to paper, as the case may be,
and put their own work together getting it published. Maybe
another thing, how are you able to get your book published,
Beverly Williams Before we part company?

Speaker 11 (01:55:13):
So initially with the first book, I went through Amazon
through their publishing operation. With this second book, I actually
used Ingram Spark. And the reason I did is one
of the book stores in Milford said, well, you know
all the bookstores purchase their books through Ingram Spark, who

(01:55:38):
is the distributor of books. So I said, oh, okay,
So I invented that and published through Ingram Spark. And
I have been going around bookstores asking them to please
purchase my book.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Of course, that's how you get it out in the world, Beverly,
and you become a well published author. And I wish
you all the best as you move toward that endeavor
and I hope people will enjoy the book parallel and
separate a tale two Sisters. That'd be a book two.
You can read book one as well. See the talk station.
There you go a twenty three fifty five KR see

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the talk station.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Christmas is fast approaching, isn't it? Anyhow? I always got
to give an none to Vinscarralti Tree the only license
official sanctioned music here for Christmas time in the fifty
five Carcene Morning Show, with the exception of the twenty
thirty December the Christmas I like to call it Christmas Special.
A YULETI tradition here on the Morning Show, and just
if so many fond memories of my father, and I

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got to spend time with them, even in the early
years wave way way before I even was I mean,
I was a lawyer practicing. I would come in and
spend some time with Dad, and of course continued the
holiday tradition after I took over the Morning Show. Rob
Ryder has been a part of that for well, for
as long as I can remember. He is a Cincinnati legend.
Of course, speaking of Cincinnati history, you can't have a

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Cincinnati history without talking about, you know, the Bob ron
Show and Ruth Lyons and all those wonderful icons from
back in the day, and of course Rob's among them.
He's gonna bring his guitar. He will be singing some
Christmas carols and we will be enjoying a festive at
least I hope it will be a holiday show. That's
next the twenty third. I said, it's so fast approaching,

(01:57:24):
so please feel free to tune in on that. Rob.
I'm really looking forward to having you back and put
us in the yule Tide spirit. At least it will
help me get to that end. Stick around local stories
or phone calls. Got one phone call coming in. You
can feel free to join the fun. Five one, three, seven, four,
nine fifty five eight hundred eight two three talk pound
five fifty on AT and T phones. Hey look, Iris Rowling,
he made it back into the news. That's one of
the local stories. I started the program out this morning. Yeah,

(01:57:45):
I remember Iris. Guess who's got a brand new contract
entered into two days after the election. Yeah her, It
looks like ja'son the phone, Jay, hang on, take your
call right after the break. I'll be right back.

Speaker 9 (01:57:55):
This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Steve Talk Station.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
A twenty eight fifty five he or CD talk station.
Thank you, Joe Strecker. I don't know about you. This
always puts me in a holiday festive mood. I could
listen to better. Fact we were putting the tree up
the day after Thanksgiving. Guess what I put on? Yes,
this one. It never gets sold for me because it's
so it just childhood that piano play is just I

(01:58:24):
just think of my early early childhood, you know, back
of the days we still believed in Santa Claus, and
you you know, try to stay up and keep yourself
awake so you can see Santa Claus. Always unsuccessfully. Joe
Streker still believes. Good for you, Joe, because if you don't,
you don't get any Is that why I don't get
any presents? I thought because my wife told me whatever

(01:58:46):
I needed I just bought over during the year. Oh okay,
Well I believe in Santa How's that that that changes?
Is that a believable statement? Jay, thanks for calling this morning.
Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 10 (01:58:56):
Hey, good morning, Brian. And just like that, a one
hundred thousands around Cincinnati just found.

Speaker 7 (01:59:01):
Out about.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
You know, Jay, I ask brad Winstrop because he's got
young ones. One of them is on the edge of
disbelief because her classmates kind of talk about in the
you know, Santa and his oldest is already beyond that.
But I just lit me said, well, you know, classmates
are no and Brian Thomas saying something out loud or not.
There is the Internet, Jay, and young people tend to

(01:59:27):
have access to it for sad reasons, so they can
find out the reality if they choose to. And as
Joe Strecker just pointed out, Santa Claus is in fact real.
So there you have it.

Speaker 8 (01:59:37):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 10 (01:59:38):
Hey, the reason I'm calling, First of all, I want
to thank you and Joe for what you guys do.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:59:44):
I listen to you guys every day. I do a
lot of travel and I pick you up on the
iHeart streaming and it just starts my morning.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
God bless you for that. That's a true gift for me.

Speaker 7 (01:59:55):
Man I.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Anytime someone says they listen to the Morning Show, I
look at them almost in a state of disbelief, but
it really means the world to me.

Speaker 10 (02:00:03):
Well yeah, well, thanks for what you do. But the
topic I caught in on was that I read the
other day that there's yet another scandal in the Catholic Church.
Five hundred victims stepping forward, They're starting another couple funds,
hundreds of millions of dollars, And I guess it just
kind of clicked in my brain of you know, I'm

(02:00:26):
I'm a fan of let's get the Epstein files out there,
let's let's get justice for these victims. And if this
was any other organization than the Catholic Church that didn't
have the money and the power and the brand of
the Catholic Church. I've been hearing about these scandals all
my life, and I'm over fifty years old. At what

(02:00:47):
point did what point does law enforcement get involved here
and understand that they are either not capable or willing
to protect their members from the sexual abuse that goes
on decade after decade after decade, how many more thousands
of victims? And it seems like the solution always is

(02:01:09):
if they throw money at it, then it goes away.
And that's a question I never really understood with a lot.
Maybe you could help me out with that, Like I have.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
Other than what you say, political connections, there's a lot
of folks in elected a capacity that are Catholics themselves.
Maybe the Catholic Church has a lot of influence over
elected officials or law enforcement members. I don't know. But
if it was a non religious organization that had inolve
engauged in ongoing and cover up complicit cover up activity

(02:01:41):
hiding people from law enforcement who molested children, you know
damn well, the a warrant would be issued, files would
be rated, evidence would be collected. Who knew what and when?
Maybe it's a criminal enterprise, who knows? But you know,
under RICO, two or more people working together for the
purpose of committing a crime that's organized crime in and
of itself. How many people were involved in cover ups

(02:02:01):
in child molestation within that church. And I don't want
to be critical to Catholic Church in terms of faith.
I understand, I get it. I understand your doctrine and dogma.
I grew up around it. I mean, my entire neighborhood
was Catholic. So this isn't a criticism of Catholicism. It's
a criticism who's running the show, right.

Speaker 10 (02:02:18):
Jay, exactly exactly, And it doesn't matter what the organization is.
And I also see it what like NFL players like
Ben Roethlisberger a few years back, quarterback for the Steelers.
He raped the girl. It's on the police report, but
he was able to stroke a check big enough that
he's hat on the field playing the next day. And

(02:02:39):
I'm thinking, hasn't a crime still men committed? If the
victim is saying, I got my settlement, I'm not pressing charges,
doesn't law enforcement still want to get that person in
prison to protect the rest of us are the rest
of the women out there. We don't understand how this is,
this system, but we stroke a check big enough the
crime goes away.

Speaker 1 (02:02:58):
Well, you could probably go on all day. Look, the
grand jury refused to indict Letitia James for mortgage fraud,
even though the documents prove, I think beyond a reasonable
doubt that she engaged in mortgage fraud. So and maybe
it is who you're connected to, Jay, And I say
that sort of tongue in cheek. There's a reality to
what you're saying. And it's not the Catholic Church. It's
not just that it's just baked into the cake.

Speaker 7 (02:03:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
It's not equal treatment under the law.

Speaker 4 (02:03:23):
Terry.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
Yep, yep, exactly. This isn't some great revelation that we're
showing here and illustrating here today, Jay, It's just a
reiteration of a problem that has existed for a very
very long time. Fortunately, though, in a day before the Internet,
I would argue none of us would know about Epstein
or the Epstein files, using that as an illustration or

(02:03:48):
an example, nobody would what. Really, you didn't even know
what legislation Congress was working on any given time before
we got this immediate volume of real time information, access
to the actual documents themselves. It's all right there for
all to see. So much fraud, waste and abuse has
been revealed. Corruption's been revealed. We all know about it

(02:04:08):
because we're all connected. Now, that's a great, great thing.
I always look for positive things that have come from
the Internet age, and I think that's one of them.
You can hold a people people accountable. You can witness
and see the problems inherent in the system, and then
you got to turn to your elected officials or whoever
else is responsible for solving the problem and see if
they do anything about it. This is why I've been

(02:04:28):
such a terror on such a terri late about the fraud, waste,
and abuse that's been revealed in literally the four corners
of government Minnesota, most recently billion dollars a billion of
your dollars stolen by the Somali community in Minnesota. Would
we have ever known about that? And then pivot over
to all the other fraud, waste and abuse that's been

(02:04:49):
revealed with the COVID money that's been handed out with
the Green New Deal. Problem goes all the way back
to like the Obama era with the A one twenty
five and all these entities getting your money hands selected
by the elected officials in Washington under whatever administration they
got chosen. Why didn't some other company get chosen. Maybe
it's because they're connected. Maybe they were writing big chicks

(02:05:11):
and big checks and making political contributions. Hmmm yeah, maybe,
So we see it. The question is will an't even
do anything about it? So I've been on a tear
again about this fraud, wasting abuse that should be the
first and foremost thing. It's like Dave Hatter, if you're
gonna build an Internet of Things device, start with security

(02:05:32):
and move on from there. They don't have any interest
or concern what happens with the money once it's handed
over to their well connected individuals, so you can draw
parallels with that, and yeah, the disparate treatment of individuals
based upon who they are in the criminal justice system
eight thirty six Right now Bobby and Terry the Pilot,
no way, looking forward to hearing from both of those guys.

(02:05:53):
Coming up next, stick.

Speaker 6 (02:05:54):
Away fifty five KARC men deep talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
A thirty nine fifty five ker CD talk station. Christmas
time is indeed here. Enjoy it now real quick here
before and indulge me for a moment here Terry the
Pile and Bobby. I can't wait to talk to you both.
But further to my rant there. Yes, yesterday, Education Secretary
of Line McMahon and it made an announcement. Interesting it

(02:06:23):
is Trump administration has prevented one billion with a B
in student law loan fraud this year. Why just increasing
the identification requirement. That's it. They implemented mandatory identification verification
on certain first time applicants after they uncovered ninety million
in federal student aid fraud, thirty million in loans that

(02:06:46):
went to dead people, forty million the companies using bots
disguised as fake students. Wow. Interesting revelation that here. Let's
look a little bit deeper. Oh McMahon said, quote, it
was really a pretty simple thing to do. You think
about the fact that when you buy airplane tickets or whatever,
you have to show an ID if you're gonna rent

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a car. But there had been no kind of ID verification.
As students filed their applications for student loans, you know,
into the Bide administration, they didn't do any of this
identity verification, as reported by the Washington Times, required from
less than one percent of the applicants, which is how

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you end up getting a billion dollars worth of fraud.
How simple was that to do? Flip a switch? All
doge is evil? No, they're not simple process. There's one
billion add them all up. It ends up being a
lot of money. Terry the Pilot, long time, no speak,
my friend. I hope you're doing well. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (02:07:50):
I'm telling you that there's mornings like today.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
Retirement is great.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
You don't have to worry about de icing the wings
before you go on that cross across the globe flight right, Terry.

Speaker 12 (02:08:02):
No more icy runways, no more low visibilities, no more crosswinds.

Speaker 8 (02:08:08):
It's great.

Speaker 12 (02:08:09):
But you talk about Catholics and Somalis in Minneapolis. As
a guy that went through Minneapolis quite a bit, I
ran into a few people that were immigrating or integrating
through Minneapolis, and I discovered how did they get so
many Some mallies it's called Catholic and Lutheran charity are
and they guess what, They're subsidized by the government. That

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goes back to the Bush administration legislation that allowed the
federal government to directly subsidize charities. At the time, I thought, well,
maybe that's a good idea, but now I look at
the costs and I'm thinking, like, you put somebody like
Obama and Hillary in and the next thing you know,
we ended up with thousands of not only some maalies,
but everybody else that are here legally on visas, and

(02:08:57):
then an NNGO from the Democrats managed to somehow get
them free money for an assistance or COVID money to
help them live without working.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
Right, and if it was truly part of the mission
to bring people into this country, like the Catholics or
any other religious organization, Usually people on the left, most notably,
but people on the right might scream about government money
going to support religious organizations. What are happened to separation
of church and state. Grumble, grumble, grumble. And if it
was in fact part of their mission, isn't the contributions
from the church and the parishioners or whoever else. They're

(02:09:29):
the ones that are responsible for funding these activities. In
other words, if you want to help facilitate it, dip
down into your tithing pocket receipts and pay for it yourself.
But now they're relying on government money to achieve their
what are arguably, from their perspective, their religious ends. Hmm.
There may be a constitutional argument built in there, Terry.

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 12 (02:09:51):
Evidently there's some fences between church and state, and other fences,
aren't there, depending on what religion you.

Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
Are yep, or what you'rre doing with the government money. Terry.
I think that's where the answer to the question lies.
If you're fulfilling a government objective by overrunning our nation
with a bunch of people from other lands that are
not here legally and have entered our country legally with
the help of these religious NGOs or not, that's their goal. Oh,

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the church wants to help us overwhelm the United States
with a bunch of illegal immigrants. Okay, we'll help them.
If they were doing something to the opposite, then they
probably wouldn't have gotten the help, and they would have
made arguments about separation of church and states and the
dollars that go with that separation. Appreciate good hearing from me, Terry.
I'm glad you're enjoying retirement. Bobby, welcome to the program.
Good to hear from you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
Happy Friday, my friend. We want to thank you for
all you do. You're just maintaining Almighty God's America.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
This way you can try and at least trying to
point out where the warts are. Maybe we'll do something
about it when we run into them.

Speaker 4 (02:10:53):
Terry or Bobby, Well, all these graft, greed and gratuities
that we're talking about federal level, all you gotta do
is look in town. It's like that right downtown. Of course,
it is just a bigger it's just on a bigger
level of the federal And look at it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
And she is like Iris Rowley's new contract, right, Iris
Rowley is Iris Rowley got a new contract worth almost
seven hundred thousand dollars. She's sort of a fly in
the ointment of a law on law enforcement. But she's
a consultant and is she's employed her son. And she
also has made her husband slightly more wealthy because he

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owns a company called Raleigh's I'm Sorry road Show Awards
and Graphics. And she paid him, her husband at least
thirteen hundred dollars for T shirts, hoodies and performance shirts
for the folks that work on Government Square that I
believe are managed by her son. So little Shenanigan's going
on there. But since she's an independent contractor, we'll call

(02:11:52):
her just for the sake of boiled down argument along
the points we've been talking about this morning. One of
the NGOs that's the recipient of Cincinnati tax payer dollars, right.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
Is a legal contract of just for a dollar? Can't
you have legal contract for one dollar talking down there
and get more kind of advice for half that price?

Speaker 1 (02:12:13):
Good luck, Bobby. I think if they find out your politics,
they might not consider you, even if you are a
viable option. You want to give you catch mark, Fred,
you want to talk about faith, family, family, flag and
freedom and firearms. Bobby, I think I just did that
for you.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
Well, I tell you one thing I want to do.
I want to commend Cincinnati, for one thing, they have
the best medical care of almost anywhere in the country. Children,
old people, people that are now only declined. We've got
the best, Yes we do, I tell you what. With
the weather like it is, and people being cooped up
inside and the holidays coming up and all the stress

(02:12:51):
and confusion, we're putting the shooting contract this weekend Friday,
Saturday and Sunday at three and a half. So thanks
for all the medicalies to keep people surviving. We're putting
the shootings at three and a.

Speaker 7 (02:13:07):
Half for the weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:13:08):
You see medical center. I'm gonna hang out there and
uh and and and count the tally. Bobby, All right,
let us let that sit take care of man of
a great weekendy forty six right now. If you have
Casey the talk station five one, three, seven, eight two
three talk or Pound five fifty on AT and T
phones if you want to chime in. It is a Friday,
why not, I'll be.

Speaker 6 (02:13:26):
Right back fifty the talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:13:34):
Putting a smile on my face as much as the
Vince Garotti trio at Christmas.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
Time, Jeezy.

Speaker 1 (02:13:59):
Defence the way you're looking, and it is indeed a
wonderful world From my perspective, I certainly appreciate tuning in
to the fifty five Carcee morning show Tech Friday, a
day of had to this morning great topics. As always
with Dave, he got menic cues in a local card
skimming case, which obviously led to the broader conversation about
skimming and stealing your information generally speaking, and some good
advice on that. Some people saying no to the Windows

(02:14:21):
eleven upgrade, he says, don't say no. There's a lot
of nefarious actors out there. They're not going to be
upgrading it anymore. The old systems, your Windows ten, that's
not going to get any updates anymore. So the longer
you keep that, the more likely it is hackers are
going to figure out a way that that system can
be exploited and then come after you. The reason they
do that, it's because people don't upgrade their systems. So

(02:14:41):
don't be one of those people. Take Dave's advice. Just
go ahead, bite the bullet and upgrade and you'll avoid
more problems. Plus Google sort of kind of sharing your
text messages with your employer. He explains that quite well.
So podcast fifty five Case dot Com Great Time with
Congressman former Congressman you can always do that private citizen
doctor brad winstropin studio, and we didn't even get to
scratch the surface of the multitude of topics we were

(02:15:02):
able to talk about. But I did enjoy that conversation
and always do appreciate hearing what he has to say
about important events going on. Beverly Park Williams local author.
You can get a copy of her book Parallel and Separate.
It really is a story about her mother and her sister,
separated like almost birth, that they grew up on different
sides of Cincinnati, so that serves as a vehicle to
talk about all the different areas of the city and

(02:15:26):
different points in points of view in terms of the
city of Cincinnati. So it's like a history book built
around her very interesting story. That's excuse me if you do.
You have caresey dot com and that allowed me to
give props. I just dearly loved the Sorry Peter Bronson.
I talked to him her only week about his new book,

(02:15:46):
Magical History Tour or last week. It was a great book.
It didn't take very long to read it, and it's
five different stories. And I sent him an email yesterday
to tell him how much I enjoyed the book a
great Christmas item. You can find him on fifty five
krec dot comor just go directly to Chili Dog Press
and get a book. But I had to thank him,

(02:16:06):
not just because all five stories all again centered around
the city of Cincinnati and famous figures or infamous figures
in this particular case, including thank you Peter Bronson again
a specific shout out to him yesterday because he did
one chapter on stan Chesley and the Fenfen litigation, along
with other well criminals lawyers swore into a pold an

(02:16:30):
oath of ethics, And I know you might laugh at that,
but you know I took my the profession very seriously
and I tried to be as ethical and moral as
I could possibly be, because why, it's my client, it's
my client's interest, it's my client's damn money, and what
they did to the people that they purported to represent
is just unconscionable. And trust me, if the FCC was

(02:16:52):
not listening or I could get away with FCC violations,
I would use an FCC violation Mulligan or whatever to
more pointedly criticized the people that were involved in that
litigation they stole it was a two hundred million dollars
settlement involved in the fen Fen litigation. They stole it.

(02:17:13):
Quite a few of them went to jail. Stanchezli, I
guess ended up cooperating on some level. Get he didn't
go to jail, although I would argue he well deserved it,
you know, and I'm speaking ill of the dead. That's
okay because read it for yourself, and I love how
Peter Bronson did it. He was able to summarize all
the information in very complex case.

Speaker 5 (02:17:30):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:17:32):
By creating a scenario where a news reporter is sitting
in a booth and two men come in while that
trial is going on, and somehow the men were involved
in the trial, and you can read for yourself. They
were sitting in the booth next to the reporter. So
the reporter got his notes out and he starts writing
down all the information that they were talking about. And
so it's an easy mechanism as an author for him

(02:17:52):
to boil down a whole lot of information and not
just read it off like facts, but weave it into
a story that involved a discussion between two people. So
but I gave him props for calling out that rat
and the other rats that were involved in that so
local history right there Peter Bronson's Magical History Tour and

(02:18:13):
you can get that if if you have caresy dot
com on my blog page along with the podcast. As
I mentioned from the day, I hope you have a wonderful,
wonderful weekend. We'll hear from Christopher Smithman and Brian James
on Monday. As his tradition, Joe Strekker has always thank
you for everything you do for producing the program. Without you,
this would not be a program. I assure you that
have a wonderful weekend, Folks, don't go away. Glen Beeck's

(02:18:33):
coming right out.

Speaker 6 (02:18:34):
Today's top headlines coming up at the top of the hour.

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Everything changed