55KRC Friday - Tech Friday, Brad Wenstrup, Judge Berkowitz, Print and Type Museum, Unplug BOOK

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Five o five.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think about krc DE talk station, Happy Friday, a vacation.

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There's a blue who knowing for sure that it's Friday,
not that I need to be reminded.

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Uh.

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Brian Thomas right here, glad to be Glad to see
Joe's trecker and I love the lineup you got going today.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Joe appreciate that. Joe of course.

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Responsible for lining up guesser in the fifty five KRSE
Morning Show, and that he has done in spades today,
beginning with tech Friday's day Hatter every Friday at six thirty.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
UH.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Enjoy our conversations with Dave, although today I'm not going
to be enjoying it. It's not that I do love
talking to him, it's just the pain reality of the
information he's going to be passing along to us. Now
he's talked about your passwords. He's talked about having a
very very good password and some using one of those
password organizers that generates a password that's basically impossible to

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break and crack.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's time to heed his advice.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I think everybody probably in the listening audience has had
some of their data quote unquote hacked. You know, I've
gotten notices. I have LifeLock, and I've gotten notices before.
You know your prior address, your your email address, and
that kind of thing, most of which information is easily,

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you know, obtainable online if you go to the right sites.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's a lot of it's public.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And of course, if you're sending your email out to
a bunch of people and you're using it all the time,
and it's not too difficult to figure out what your
email address is. So that kind of stuff never bothered me,
not once, not once, have I gotten an alert that passwords
have been hacked. Well, today's day we find out that well,

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in fact, they may have if you are among the
sixteen billion people in the world whose passwords have in
fact been hacked. So that's one of the topics. Gonna
be talking about four billion user records exposed in one
data leak. That's the first topic. I'd love your parenthetical Joe,
hold my beer, followed by a sixteen billion.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Password leak.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
And this came from embracious cell folks, Apple, Facebook, Google
and others. So does anybody out there use Apple, Facebook,
or Google? No, that's nobody, is it? And as Davis
pointed out, quite often people use the same password at
wherever they are, so you know, okay, well my bank
hasn't been hacked. Yeah, but if you're using the same

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pass word over at Facebook as you're using to log
into your bank account, problems.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So we'll get the full details, of course, with Dave.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
HATI I'm just warning you ahead of time, because that
one's got me sweating bullets as well as it should
everybody else who's online and has passwords. So finally with Dave,
a new study on children in screen time, and of course,
as you might imagine, it isn't a pretty picture. Psychologists
track two almost three hundred thousand children's screen time and

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headline what they found is alarming. So a very important segment,
as always today even more important.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
At least it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That seven oh five fast forward Private citizen. I love
that brad winstrip returns. Brad of course had multiple security
clearance member of the American military, set on Security Committee
as Security Header Intelligence Committee, so it's got a lot
of insight that many Americans don't have. And of course
we'll tap his insight into the current situation involving Israel

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iron and of course you heard Donald Trump's going to
make a decision on whether the bomb Iran or participated
the bombing of Ron within the next couple of weeks,
although Iran has expressed some interest in sitting down on
the table and there's some European countries that are also
going to be helping to facilitate that we can only
pray and a good time for prayer, that we can
end this conflict without entering into a full on war.

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Of course, we have other things we can talk about
with congress Or former Congressman of Red winsterrp. Seven oh
five full hour in studio. Thank you, private citizen Windsor
for taking the time to spend it in studio. Certainly
appreciate that, like Corey Bowman yesterday, really enjoyed having him
in studio talking about his mayoral campaign. Judge Josh Berkwitz
Gornewin Clerk of Courts lost its lawsuit. A Supreme Court

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upheld a ruling that the Clerk of Courts Pavan Parique
here in Hamilton County violated the law because he removed
public records from the website. Just took him off thousands
of reds residential eviction cases from the official website for
the Hammon County Clerk courts information that is public information.

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He removed them because, oh, I don't know, out of
something like he was proposing. It has been altruistic. He
was concerned that those records might be used to improperly
deny someone rant or whatever. He was told by the
courts he has no power to do that. So I finally,

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the Supreme Court, you know he was a Supreme Court,
in a unanimous decision, confirmed that he did not have
the power to do that. He claimed he did it
because he wanted to prevent certain members of the public,
being primary employers and landlords, from potentially relying upon court
documents in considering fulfilling employment, housing, and other potential opportunities individuals.

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His argument was, well, they might misunderstood. A lot of
people have the same name, and if you pull up
somebody's name and there's an eviction notice on there and
you deny them the opportunity for employment because they have
a bad credit rating or whatever, you shouldn't have access
to that. Although he did point out if you show
up in person, going back old school, back in the day,

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you could go to the clerker Court's office and get
any of the records you just had to ask for
them because they're public records. Internet's kind of changed the
dynamic on that you no longer have to take make
a trip downtown and head on into the Clerker Court's
office to do it. So the information is back online.
And Josh Berkowitz was one of the believe targets of

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the lawsuit involving the Clerker Courts, so he's going to
join the program. And Judge Burkerwitz, thank you very much
for the text messages you sent me. He was gleeful
in the outcome of the opinion and he let me
know about it than a text the other day. It'll
be on at eight oh five Gary Walton, Cincinnti Print
and Type Museum.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
What a cool place.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
They have an event coming up this week and we
learned from Gary Walton from the cincinnt Print and Type
Museum how unbelievably important the industry is and it remains
and using employment opportunities you have in the print industry,
it is a transformed industry. So if you have a
young person out there interested in a trade, print is
still big and we're one of the printing capitals of

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the world here in since Greater Cincinnati area. So Gario
returned at eight thirty and finally Richard's Simon with his
book unplugged, put your cell phone down, summing up the
book itself, so he'll be out of the tail end
of the program. Five one, three, seven, nine fifty five
eight hundred eight two three taco with pound five fifty

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on AT and T phones. And you know, speaking of
as we discussed the ramifications of Israel, whether or not
we bomb. So we've got these Chris Christie bombs, these
thirty thousand pound bombs. They're supposed to be bunker penetrating,
going down a couple of one hundred feet, and I
watched the video. There's one on Wall Street Journal's website
today which shows how they work. You know, you drop

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two of them, the first one goes in, blows up,
and then one falls right on the heel of the
first bomb, allowing the second bomb to penetrate even further.
So you got the Fordham base where apparently that's where
all the centrifuges are. It's very deep in the earth.
So there's a lot of questions swirling out. Will these
Chris Christie bombs actually be able to blow up the
centrifuges question number one. Maybe we'll have success, maybe not.

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Maybe we'll drop the bombs, maybe we won't. Maybe there'll
be a peace resolution and Iran will quit its nuclear aspirations.
Maybe they won't. But you got to remember we have
driven as a globe. We have driven China and Iran
and North Korea closer and closer to each other. I
saw this report about some jets seven forty seven's being

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sort of stealthily flying into Iranian airspace for reasons we
are all questioning, don't know why the Chinese are doing this.
There's some you know, there's some explanations that it's no
big deal. Other explanations saying, hey, there's something going on
here that might be a problem. But they're buddies universe.
To Tehran professor Muhammad Morandi, who was interviewed back in

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twenty twenty one, he said the strategic partnership is important
because it allows Iran and China to build a roadmap
for long term relations that will be much more fruitful.
It's also a signal being sent to the United States.
The more the US tries to isolate Iran and China,
the more it causes countries like Iran and China to
move closer to each other. Oh, no, one can deny
that's the reality. We're all watching it unfold before our

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very eyes. But China's the big threat here. They're the
ones with all the information. They're the ones that have
hacked into our systems. They're the ones that have the
kill switch on our electricity. Right, you can't deny that
they found the software, the back door ways that China
can do that, notably in all the solar panels they
have out in the world, and the hacking that they've

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been engaged in. So we got one expert now pointing
out that, you know, the ripple effect of our getting
involved in Iran is screaming, don't get involved. You know,
the world the hell is going to come down on
the Unit States. And I know they can be boisterous.
I know they can say whatever the hell they want
they want to project to the world that they represent
a threat to the United States, But.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
In some levels maybe they do.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
This is all the type of thing that our military officials,
are elected officials, and everybody else needs to take into consideration,
including the President of the United States of America, as
it contemplates whether they'repper Chris Christiebaum on the Ford of
nuclear facility. Anyway, the s experts that Iran could hit
America with a high impact cyber attack. M Now, for

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his part, the writing Foreign Ministry spokesperson speaking of threats
from Iran esmail Bagahi threat in the United States during
interview with Al Jazeera earlier this week on Wednesday, saying
an American intervention alongside Israel would mean, in his words,
all out war. Any American intervention would be a recipe
for all out war in the region, they said, in

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the region. But if we're engaged in all out war,
and you know, China's currently engaged in war with US
form of a Cold war in the sense of hacking
and all the other mischief that they're up to the
division of US on social media, the use of TikTok
to further divide America. Sony subtly, little by little. They
take a long term approach to breaking our country up.

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Got to get props for strategy too. They're not an
immediate gratification kind of country. They have a vision for
the future, and trust me, we are not part of it.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
JERSA.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Payton, former White House Chief Information Officer, and CEO the
cybersecurity firm fort Lyfe's Solutions, talking with Fox News Digital,
Iran could use cyber attacks, saying, I think everything's on
the table right now as it relates to Iran, especially
if they're running out of weaponry and missiles, they can
resort to cyber incidents and cyber attacks. So we could

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see Iran strike everything from everyday citizens to US elected officials,
media outlets, and here's the sailing part, as well as
critical infrastructure. She suggests that arm would look to target
something high impact, very visible, and very inconvenient. Putting out energy,

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utility and water supplies could be areas that ARAM would
want to target in order to cause major disruptions, and
that's exactly what they would do. You're back in a corner.
Desperate times called for desperate actions, and you want to
appear to project massive amounts of strength to the rest
of the world. This is like terrorism. You got three
guys in a room. That's all they've got, but they've
got a way to blow something up that's of huge

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size and significance, to project might, to project strength, to
bring fear into the hearts and minds of the general population.
Even though they are few in numbers. The damage a
few people can do is substantial. And here you have
the country it's about the size of Alaska that does
have missiles and does have a good relationship with China,
who has already hacked into our systems before they maybe

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get the info from China already have it or something
along those lines to bring down critical infrastructure. Peyton said,
iron as a track record when it comes to cyber attacks,
the threat should be taken seriously. They've done everything from
spearfishing political campaigns, getting information from political campaigns. They've masqueraded
as government officials. They had actually hit financial services with

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distributed denial of service attacks. Over the years, they've hit
an out at critical infrastructure, not just in the United
States but other countries as well. And so they do
have a track record of hits and misses as it
relates to cyber incidents. And so that's why a cyber
intrusion is very much a potential on the table scenario
for Iran. So add that to the list of warris

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and concerns that might come about as a consequence of
US dropping a Chris Christie baumb on the Fordham Nuclear
Facility five nineteen Mark, hang on, I'll get your call.
I promised right after these brief words. Fifty five KRC
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prior administration.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
It's five twenty two on a Friday, and a very
happy one to you.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Five one three five hundred eight hundred eight two three
top five about fifty on eighteen T phones, Mark one moment.
It wouldn't be Friday without lem me chiming in. Mark,
thanks for holding over the break there. Welcome to the
Morning Show.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Morning Brian, how are you.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Unsettled?

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Well, I have a solution. If there's anybody out there
that's got a direct on the bottle Trump, here's the solution.
So we're gonna hold over our Moral Day sale and
we're having our July fourth sale coming up on the
B one bomber BT bomber whatever it is, a sellth.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Bomber and on the.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Moabs. We're going to have to buy one gift on
the Gogo sale, and I don't care if we charge
them a dollar or one hundred million dollars. We sell
them the plane and the bomb, and of course we
got to train them and we let them do whatever
they want to do with it, and then if there's

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some sort of a warranty issue, that can return it
within thirty days. So that way we're not involved. We
just made a saying off a sale of transaction, and
whatever they do with it in the course of their
own ownership, that's up to the So you know, this
whole thing about whether or not the United States gets
involved or not, Like you said before, we sell and

(15:33):
give away weapons all the time to lots of different
countries that are not necessarily even allies of bars and
so that way, you know, Trump doesn't have to get
into this whole legal matter with the Congress and all
of that. But the other thing is too, is what

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you were saying about the the threat of the cyber
attacks and all of that. I would just want them
up front, go ahead, do what you.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Think that you need to do.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Strike our infrastructure, and we're gonna come in full force,
and we're gonna plant our flat just like the US
Virgin Islands. We're gonna have the Province of the United
States right in the middle of you guys. I said
we should have done that with Iraq when we went
into Iraq and everybody warned about oh my gosh, you whack.
You know, they've got this public National Guard and they're

(16:27):
gonna it's gonna be I mean I think we pretty
much over threw them.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
In a week.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, but we we didn't. But maintaining an occupying force
amid thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, are more foes.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's kind of the concept you think about Russia taking
over all of Ukraine. They're inviting themselves to be constantly
attacked twenty four to seven by we'll call them a
gorilla based military force of people who don't want the
Russians in their neighborhood. I mean, wh didn't we live
through that with that Afghanistan I mean Afghanistan, I mean
one of those backward empty countries in the world, and

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we pulled out. Now, granted the prior administration was incompetent.
It's pull out, but you know, after what twenty years
of our presence there, we didn't really make any headway.
And it's a lot more difficult to, you know, establish
what you are talking about and keep it when you're
surrounded by a bunch of people who think you shouldn't
be there, and you also end up gaining additional foes

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by your mere presence. The Infidels, you know, a lot
of them might say, okay, well, we don't mind the
United States being involved with economic activity, and we're willing
to accept them in terms of being a trading partner.
But when you go over and you start taking over property,
you know you're the Infidel then, and you end up
gaining more folks against you. And as to the B
two bomber situation, I hear what you are saying, but

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as it's been explained to me, you have to have
something the size of the B two bomber to deliver
the Chris Christie bombs, so that in and of itself
is something Israel doesn't own. They don't have airplanes suffice
to drop those bombs, so it requires US personnel to
operate it. Now you mentioned training, I suspect that training
just as a concept sounds simple, but operating and controlling

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and maintaining and flying a B two bomber and dropping
those Chris Christie bombs a hell of a lot more complicated,
and probably we require a lot of time to train
the independent Israeli defense forces to fly and operate and
train them so we don't have to be involved in it.
Boots on the ground or a military operation standpoint. I mean,

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these are all the layers that we've got to walk
through when we talk about this, it sounds like a
simple solution. And then going back to the other point
I've made, because I've read it so many times with
so called experts chiming in, just because you drop the
Chris Christie bomb on the Fordham facility doesn't necessarily mean
it's going to actually work to destroy it. Now, it'll
set them back. And that's another thing. They were set

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back a lot by that sucks neck virus that Israel
launched into the Center users which blew them all up.
Now that's going back quite a few years, but it
did stop Iran from its nuclear aspirations. No, it has
started right back up again. They've been at it ever since.
So we blow up all their infrastructure. Let's say we're
wildly successful with that. If you don't get a regime change.
And I'm not saying just wiping out the supreme leader,

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there's always a supreme leader that will step in his place.
They still have the Iranian military who are committed should
be committed to an institution, but they're committed to their ideology.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
And their way of life.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
They'll continue to run the show there absent what you said,
which is going in and just taking over the country completely,
which carries its own logistical challenges, and might I also
throw in an extra complicating factor as I stare at
an article social security Iceberg getting closer, we're running out
of money. Well, we already have run out of money,
and maintaining an operating force and engaging in another military

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conflict like that is really, really, really f non compliant,
blanking expensive. So we got to work all these things out.
We don't want to get engaged in a ready fire
aim without walking through the realities practical and otherwise of
how complicated the situation truly is. Five point twenty eight

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right now, fifty five K City Talk Station, feel free
to call.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I have no complete answers.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I'm just trying to get a ten thousand foot perspective
on the layers and the complications here, which is one
of the reasons I'm really glad Private Citizen brad Winstrop
is going to be in at seven oh five to
talk about some of this.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
I'll be right back fifty five KRC. Caroline Brega had
it all.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Here is your channel line first one and one to forecast.
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a few clouds through a night dry and a low
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Sunday skies seventy one over night with a few clouds
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David Taylor. We talked a whole lot of issues with Taylor.

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all podcast fifty five kr S dot Com. Over the
phones we go tom Happy Friday, my friend.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Good morning, Sirgain any big plans for the weekend.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I'm trying to think whether I do or not. I'm married.
I'm married to a person who's in charge of such matters.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Uh huh cfo Ceo.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Cruise cruise director. I always remember the love of love
vote Julie the cruise director. Not that I'm mun happy
about that. You know, it's out of my hands. I
don't have to be responsible. Let her make the decisions,
and I just like you, go where I'm told to go.
It's best in my house, it's best to have a list.
But my wife wants me to do something, she writes
it down the list.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
It gets done.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
She tells me to do something, and I'll sit on
my button, watch a Netflix movie or something, and promptly
forget that. She told me that I was supposed to
do something. We'll call it a fatal flaw. But she's
been willing to overlook it now soon approaching thirty three
years of marriage.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Soon approached. Well that's good.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Thirty three into the month.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Number one, top of the list. This weekend should be
stay cool whatever we're doing, honey, it needs to be
inside in the ac Oh. Yeah, I can't stand the
heat that It's ridiculous. So this, uh, this garbage burwing
over there and in the Middle East is abb It's
been burwing for how many thousands of years. And that's

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part of the problem that we run into when when
we're sticking our nose into it or and sometimes rightfully so,
we have interest that that that stuff effect. We have
allies over there. But that is Ah, that's a mess
over there. And there are thousands of years of of
beliefs and uh that these people shouldn't even be a

(23:11):
country and and uh or that they shouldn't be doing
this and and uh it's crazy, and some of it
is just hard for for most of us to understand
because we were not entrenched in in these religious beliefs
that are a lot more important over there.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
And and you know, really rule the day over there.
That's where everything starts from. And they and they teach
kids over there for very early on. So you're right
when you said you get rid of one supreme leader,
there's another one already waiting in the wing. There's there's
thousands and hundreds of thousands of people over there that
just absolutely believe that Israel should not exist. Yeah, And

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and I mean it's it's not like it's optional, it's
not it's not up for debate over there. It's just
that's that's the reality that they've learned, and that is
very hard to deal with. Well, all these are human
beings that that another country wants to wipe off the
face of the planet. And because we're allies with them,
oh guess what, we're guilty by association and because of
our way of life and all that. So it's a

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it's a very tough thing to deal with and be
up against. And that's why we have to try to
use as much common sense as we can our leaders
do we do as voters when we put people in there,
and and so let's use of common sense and at
the very least, don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Have a great day, Brian, you too, tom As Wonders.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I's going to work that into that broader historical thousands
and thousands of years of history discussion on the instability
that has been the norm in the Middle East. I
don't think we can blame the Democrats for that one,
but I share his conclusion anyhow. Five and three seven
fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three talk

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five five fifty on eight and t phones got a
stack of stupid and it's Friday. Lots of naked people
in the stack of stupid to day, so feel free
to call or we'll dive into that either way of
your right.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
Back fifty five KRC Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
One of my listener friends, Jeffery, always anticipating and looking
forward to this moment of the week. Three talk five
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Speaker 4 (25:21):
Wow, there it is the statute teacher. Let us see here.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
A k Nockville woman has been in charge with several
crimes after police say she was partially naked while burning
stolen American flags corn chord documents. Americ Aunty deputies responded
around four to thirty in the morning this Monday, second
Street after We're in Bussy, Iowa by the way, after

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receiving a report of a nude female who was lighting
American flags on fire. They got there, they found twenty
one year old Brianna Laired, undressed from the waist down
with a flag tied around her head. Kinky Laird allegedly
gave deputies a false name before hitting a deputy in
the face when he attempted to arrest her. Why are

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you doing that no idea arresting deputy wrote in the complaints.
She was eventually placed in the handcuffs and put in
the back seat of my patrol vehicle before I shut
the door. The female also kicked me thirties later learned
the flags were damaged belonged to the city of Bussy
or Baucy. They also reportedly found drug paraphernalia inside her bag.

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Amen brother charged with assaultan officer, indacent exposure, possession of
drug paraphernalia, criminal mischief, theft, and interference with official acts.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
The aristocrat.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Man, this guy looks really kind of cute. Nonetheless, and
I don't get this.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I never do get it. Please set an upstate New
York woman thing.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Please set an upstate New York woman has been arrested
after allegedly sending naked selfies to a child idiots doing
idiot things because they're idiots, someone who could probably very
easily find an adult to get together with, and said
nude selfies too without fear of criminal prosecution. Anna Maria Emlazo,

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twenty two years old of Elmira, New York, arrested, according
to the Chiming County Sheriff's Office, charged with disseminating indecent
material to miners in the second degree, a felony, and
endangering the welfare of a child, which is at misdemeanor.
Deputy set investigation began after school resource officer assigned to
the Greater Southern Tier Bocees, whatever the hell that is anyway,

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receive the complaint alleging that she was sending these explicit
images to a boy. Sheriff's Office criminal investigation divisions that
it learned she sent nude photographs two of herself to
a fourteen year old male over a three month period.
Court to local news, they confirm a Losso was an
employee of the Bocees and some kind of schools I'm

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officials would not say when she worked at the school
or what her role was. Underage boy of course not
identify because he's a minor. Unclear if he was a
student in the same all here it is they finally
do with the parenthetical boards of Cooperative Educational Services school.
Rested in charge issued an appearance ticket to appear at

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the Wellsburg Village Court. And again, I don't know why
a woman who looks this me, you know, a beauteous subjective, right,
and maybe she's just obviously an illustration of batcrap insanity,
which is why maybe she had to pray on a
fourteen year old boy rather then go out in the
world and find someone her own age. And again I'll

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point to the fact, here's an illustration, and maybe why
she can't find someone in her own age. She's dumb
enough to take naked pictures of herself over a three
month period and send them to a fourteen year old
thinking they did they were never going to crop up
and she was never going to be held accountable for it. Golly,
New Jersey elementary school teacher accused of having sexual relationship

(29:29):
with a student and giving birth to his child has
been indicted by a grand jury. Thirty four year old
Laura Karen of Cape May Courthouse has been charged with
aggravated assault, sexual assault, and endangering the welfare of a child,
charges identical to the one she faced following her arrest
in January. Get The fifth grade teacher, who was on

(29:50):
paid administrative leave from the Middle Township Elementary School, was
found by an investigation to him engaged in sexual activities
with the child between twenty six twenty twenty, when the
boy and his two siblings were living with her and
the icing on the cake and the victim was as

(30:10):
young as eleven years old. December twenty twenty four, school
officials received an anonymous tip about about a social media
post made by the victim's father asking about Karen's now
a five year old child who bared a resemblance to
the victim. Since her arrest, the former student has gone

(30:32):
on record saying he initiated the relationship. Oh well, it's okay.
An eleven year old decided it was the right thing
to do with the thirty four year old.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
Well, what the hell.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Since Karen's arrests, the former student has gone on record,
As I mentioned, he's now nineteen and they need to
drop all charges. I wasn't groomed or raped or manipulated
by her. She never initiated anything. Yeah, but she followed
through with it. As the adult in the room. She's
not to follow through with something that is illegal, definitionally
and morally corrupt. By forty five IF five KRCD Talk station.

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More actually more just plain old naked people doing crazy things.
I presume while on drugs. We'll get to those in
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Speaker 4 (31:29):
If it's above KRCD talk station.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Happy Friday Tech part of a day hatter a particularly
important tech Friday, considering your passwords may very well have
been stolen if you're among the sixteen billion people who
had their passwords stolen Facebook, Google, and Apple. Frightening when
that one is. I'm looking forward to Heaven, Dave. I

(31:51):
always look forward to them. But anyway, back to the
stack of stupid. Michael Royce Sparks, who's sixty two years old,
who has who was charged this past fall with two
counts of murder with special circumstances in the deaths of
Stephanie Menard's seventy three year old and her seventy nine
year old husband, Daniel Manard.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Backstory.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
A couple had been reported missing in the desert community
of Redlands and were last seen in their home August
of last year. They lived at the Olive Dell Ranch,
described on its own website as a residential RV park
and nudist resort.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
What this, She'll say.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
They found the couple's remains in bags in a concrete
bunker underneath Michael Sparks's home. Court of local news in
a court hearing this past Monday, detective testified that Sparks
admitted to another inmate that he killed his neighbors. He
allegedly said the final straw was over a hot dog.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
Do what the hepped?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Way do you get a load of this one?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Redlands Police detective Thomas Williams testified that Sparks told the
other in made that Daniel Manard had given him a
hot dog, which which he felt was a jab at him.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I was waiting for that one, Joe.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
According to the detective's testimony, he said, mister Sparks felt
that the hot dog was a jab at him, making
him feel like he was worth only a dollar hot dog,
and that's what set him off that day.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Sparks accused of amen.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Sparks accused of brutally beating the couple with a rake,
a hoe and a hammer, prasing.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Not that kind of ho Joe.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Also reportedly admitted a drowning Minard's dog, little dog named Cuddles,
in a sink do what the hell?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Around the time of the murders.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Murders and other neighbors speaking with local news said that
Sparks and the Minards had a long history of tension
which started over a trimmed tree. Neighbors said there was
a tree that sparks wooden't trim, so the minards went
ahead and did it, which started a few that lasted
more than a decade. Tammy Wilkerson said, I don't think

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he'd ever be able to do something like this. I
know he didn't like them, and he didn't have a
problem telling people that, but I never thought he'd do this. No,
because no one has ever supposed to do anything so horrific.
That is one perceiver is the biggest douche of the universe,

(34:24):
in all the galaxies.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
There's no bigger douche than you.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
You've reached the top, the pinnacle of douche.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Dum.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Good going, Douce.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Your dreams have come true.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Madisonville, Kentucky, where Madisonville Police Department officials say they arrested
a man who assaulted an officer and tried to grab
their gun and taser.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Why are you doing that? Let's find out together.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Courting the police sport officer's dispatch in response to a
possible domestic situation, got there, They said they found a
naked man later identified as ro Grigsby, shoving two other
men to get past them into an apartment. Officers said
they attempted to place them in the handcuffs. He resisted
and tried to grab one of the officer's handguns. Also
grabbed at the officer's taser. When he was pinned to

(35:13):
the ground, Griggsby began to kick, scream, spit, and grab
at the officers the cord. To the police report, he
also grabbed one of the officer's genitals and started spitting
on him.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well they did right that he tried to grab their
gun kinky.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Once Grisby was detained, they spoke to the female that
he had been visiting. She said police he had Are
you ready pick a drug? You think math the winner
in today's drug of choice? Psychedelic mushrooms. Police question the
two men Griggsby was shoving. They til The police had

(35:55):
heard commotion and opened the door to see what was happening.
They said Griggsby tried to grab or rather tried to
enter the apartment before the officers got there. As officers
left the scene in an ambulance, Grigsby screamed several times
that he was going to kill them. Police also said
they found several hypodermic needles and a large baggie of
math in his short so Joe, you may be right.

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Eventually booked in the Hopkins County Jail charge with a
filew in public intoxication, drug paraphernalia, assault, fourth degree, burglary
second degree, a sault, fourth degree dating, dating, violence, traffic
and controlled substance, resisting arrest, terroristic threatening and decent exposure,
a sault third degree, police officer assault, third degree police
peace officer, attempted disarming of a police officer, and criminal

(36:39):
mischief the Aristocrats. Something tells me that probably pile on
some additional charges beyond those, we'll end up in Stafford County, Virginia.
Debuty say they arrested a naked guy walking around the
neighborhood Sunday morning for County Sheriff sobvious said, deputies unfortunately

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got a front rows seat to a full frontal incident.
That's in quotes what Sheriff's officely. The incident took place
on wild Rose Drive in Stanford. Received reports of a
naked guy stumbling around the road. When deputies got there,
they saw a completely naked man. He tried to get
away in a Chevy, which deputies later found out was
not his deputies detained the naked guy, who the Sheriff's

(37:26):
office said was showing extreme signs of intoxication.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
As this tradition, deputies.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Found the twenty five year old man's discarded clothes and
his id took him to the raffin Hannock Regional Jail,
where he was given a jumpsuit, charged with public intoxication,
decent exposure, attempted unlawful entry vehicles, hampering, and obstruction of justice,
which makes him kind of a piker compared to the
last guy.

Speaker 9 (37:51):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Stick around a little more to talk about between the
top and the bottom of their new His phone calls
are always welcome and an important as always Tech Fried
with Dave Hat are coming up at six thirty of
your right back.

Speaker 10 (38:03):
Big things are happening, Breaking news happening now. We'll tell
you more at the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Just too aggressive and over the top. Fifty five KRC
the talk station. I was clear of fifty five parents
the talk station. Right, Thomas, swishing everyone a very happy Friday.
I got some good plans for the weekend, and I
hope they're indoors.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Well.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
If indoors.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
If your indoor area has air conditioning, it's gonna be
a one. And we're not the only ones going to
be experiencing those hot temperatures. As you heard at the
top of the hour News Tech Friday, Dave Hatter come
to bottom of this hour. In addition to four billion
user records being exposed to a data leak, topic number
two is the ones got me all wigged out and
probably should have you wigged out two sixteen billion password leak.

(38:48):
And that involves a lot of sites you probably are
involved with, including Facebook and Google and Apple. So I'm
sure we're going to get an earful about changeing our
passwords and getting a password manager.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Valuable information from daveat or on.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
That plus a new study on kids in screen time
and kids on screen time bad outcome. I don't think
you need to be someone who can see into the
future to know what the answer to that study is.
So we get the details with Dave Hatter from Interest
It at six point thirty in studio private citizen former

(39:25):
Congressman brad Winstrup, who did have massive security clearance and
part of intelligence committees and can answer a whole lot
of questions. I am certain that we will do a
deep dive discussion into the situation involving Israel and Iron
and whether or not we're going to get involved.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I pointed out in the last hour, you know, there's
a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Of different things we need to contemplate before we drop
a Chris Christie bomb on the Fordham nuclear site. I
thought that was funny. I heard that from someone else.
I can't take credit for the Chris Christie bomb, but
those giant mop bombs, the mothers of all bombs, at
weigh thirty thousand pounds, can penetrate a couple of hundred
feet in to the ground. And the way I saw
it with the Wall Street Journal is this video on

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and I'll recommend you had on over if you're US,
I don't know if you're a non subscriber, if you
can watch it, but.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
You drop too.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
The first one goes I guess a couple of one
hundred feet it blows up, and then that one's followed
on the heels with number two, which then can go
a lot deeper than the first one. So I feel
pretty confident that the Israeli Masade has enough intelligence about
where the centrifuges are in that mountain because you can't
tell from looking at it overhead exactly where to drop

(40:31):
the bombs. But dropping them is one thing. Then there's
a question of whether or not they would be successful
in hitting their intended target. And then what becomes after that.
Someone in suggesting, you know, let's just give the Israelers
or sell the Israelers. I got to kick out of
the July fourth sale, buy one, get one free. Supplying
the Israeli defense force with B two bombers and these

(40:55):
huge bombs isn't the answer because they don't know how
to operate them. This puts us in the same situation.
You know, we don't want boots on the ground. We
don't want to have in direct involvement like Ukraine, where
we have boots on the ground by all accounts operating
the rockets that are penetrating into Russian airspace, because it
requires well security clearness to operate it, communication with the

(41:16):
United States and the satellites that help guide and track them,
and someone who knows which buttons to push and how
to aim it. So we are involved in the conflict.
It reminds me of advisors in Vietnam. No, No, it's
just advisors. Anyhow do we want to go down that road.
And as I mentioned, you know Israel. Iran does have

(41:37):
some things up its sleeve and has promised all out
war with the United States the extent we do get involved. Now,
you know, we can laugh at that suggestion, recognizing how
weak Iran is in comparison to the United States, but
they can launch some nefarious attacks on us, including as
I mentioned in the last hour, a potential cyber attack
targeting our energy grid, especially if they're working in cooperation

(42:02):
with the Chinese. And they're good buddies now, they have
been for quite some time. So there's all that to
sort of put together. And fortunately brad Winzterer might be
able to deal with some of that and answer some
of those questions. And then you know that you keep
hearing it on the top of the air, and it
is millions of articles out there. Trump's going to decide
within the next two weeks whether or not we're going

(42:24):
to drop the bombs. Rarely is the issue of whether
or not he is the authority of the right or
the ability to drop those bombs. Brought up Congressman Massey
brought it up at that legislation. We brought it up
earlier in the week, Congressman talking with a judge edit
of Politano. Because the Constitution requires a declaration of war
to get into war. Do they represent a threat to

(42:44):
the United States of America? You know, potentially theoretically, if
they have a bomb, they might represent a threat. But
is it an impending threat? Is it something needs to
be dealt with on an emergent basis?

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And maybe between now and the end of the second week,
when Donald Trump makes a decision, the Congress will provide
him with an authorization for use of military force, which
would add some measure of legitimacy to his action.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
It's a very, very complicated matter. But in terms of
the National Guard, I hope you heard Top of the
Art news. It was a unanimous rule and from the
Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, President Trump is allowed to
keep control of the National Guard in Los Angeles, staying
the lower court order that ordered the command back to
the hands of Governor Gavin Newsom. So in the file

(43:37):
in the court said that they believe the President had
made a lawful decision, saying afford to the President that
did different deference. We conclude that it is likely that
the President lawfully exercises authority under Section one two four
to zero six pair in IREI, which specifically authorizes federalization
or the National Guard when the President is unable with
the regular forces to execute the laws of the United

(43:58):
States and so and when you look at the timeline,
and I don't necessarily have any problem with this, and
I don't know why I knew somebody else is getting
all bent out of shape. No, the police officers are
not helping to enforce ICE to its job. ICE are
federal agents doing their job enforcing immigration law.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Like it or not.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
They're enforcing the laws that are on the books. It
is their right, it is their job to do so.
And when they go in and when ICE property, ICE
detention facilities, or the ICE officers themselves become the victims
of attacks, then someone's got to protect the property. Notably
when the Los Angeles Police Department is not lifting a
finger to come to their aid. Were crimes being committed

(44:41):
against the ICE officers, Absolutely, we got it on video.
And if the LAPD's not going to protect them, somebody's
got to protect them. So enter the National Guard. Since
Gavin Newsom didn't didn't send the California National Guard to
help out. He didn't direct the Los Angeles Police Department
to intervene and arrest people who a engaging in criminal acts.
Enter Donald Trump nationalized the National Guard and angering a

(45:04):
whole bunch of folks who think he's some sort of
you know, evil dictator when he's only trying to protect
federal interests. Court also said they disagree with Newsom's argument
that the president's decision to federalize members of the National
Guard California National Guard is insulated from judicial review.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Now somebody's got to do it.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
For his part and response to the decision, he's called
it a big win nine Circred Court of Appeals. This
is much bigger than Gavin because all over the United States,
if our cities and our people need protection, we are
the ones to give it to them. Should state and
local police be unable for whatever reason to get the
job done, therein lies the point. For whatever reason, the

(45:53):
situation in California, the for whatever reason is they're deemed
themselves a sanctuary city and they won't lift a fingertoo
well enforced at federal law. Their entire system depends upon them.
So big win for the Trauvel administration and he hasn't
had to call them into Portland yet, but they look
like they're close to heavy to call him there. Federal

(46:15):
agents had to use non lethal munitions to shut down
a large group of protesters who are blocking them Immigrations
and Customs officials and local law enforcement from entering and
exiting and ICE facility in Portland, Oregon. This happened over
Wednesday night. Agents deployed rubber bullets, tear gash flash bangs
to disperse the crowd who would swarm the compound. Lots

(46:37):
of video online about this one as well, latest in
a series of protests outside that ICE building and of
course the sanctuary city of Portland, which this has been
going on for about a week and a half. These
protests hundreds of as described by Fox News, mostly masked
protesters marching into the streets before sunset, so holding some

(47:00):
saying nobody is illegal on stolen land. That gives you
a clear perception of where they're coming from. They don't
even recognize the legitimacy of us being here protect immigrants
and refugees. They gathered outside the Macinam Avenue building and

(47:23):
could be seen trying to block the entrance. Apparently, as
the evening hours kicked in and the sun went down,
tensions escalated and protesters rolled a dumpster in front of
the Ice entrance, which then prompted a brage of non
lethal blast balls being fired by law enforcement who were
perched on top of a roof nice vantage point up there.

(47:44):
They were given multiple warnings to disperse, they refused to leave.
Officers got the riot gear on and advance, firing munitions
with tear gas filling the air, forcing the group to
eventually retreat. And I get the impression these were Ice folks,
maybe local law enforcement. It's kind of unclear, but I
don't believe the National Guard had to come in in
this particular situation. And there were reportedly two hundred and

(48:08):
fifty or so rioters. According to part of Homeland and
Security Assistant Secretary A. Tricia McLaughlin speaking of the news
last night, Portland riders violently targeted federal law enforcement. Two
hundred and fifty riders launched fireworks, shined lasers in offers
officers' eyes to temporarily blind them, and stormed the nice

(48:30):
Field office. Ultimately, five individuals were arrested on various charges,
including assault on a federal law enforcement officer. She said,
we won't sit by and idly watch these cowards.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
Five.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I get the impression a lot more people were involved
in criminal activity among the two hundred and fifty rioters
engage in all this, but they got five of them.
Spokesperson said. Officers are being our face seeing a four
hundred and thirteen percent increase in assaults against them. Fritz

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in the next segment. David, you're happy, yeah, because you
haven't read the headlines we're going to be talking about anyway.
Let's stay in Oregon, and well, do you use this
as an extension from the stack of stupid in the
last hour. I mean, I think perhaps Oregon has gone

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irredeemably bat crap crazy Fox News reporting black drag queens
as opposed to white drag queens or Asian drag queens.
Black drag queens performed at the open and opening ceremony
of the Oregon House of Representative's latest session. This in honor,

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apparently of Pride Month, happened on Wednesday organ House of
Representatives and began after a performance by two black drag
queens in honor of Pride Month. Democratic Representative Travis Nelson
described in the reporting as the first openly LGBTQ plus
African American Oregon legislator. And I paused on that, what

(52:19):
is Travis? He's not all of the across the board?

Speaker 10 (52:23):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Can you be lesbian, gay, bisexual, transsexual, queer and plus
all at the same time? Which one is he? And
more fundamentally who cares? But he's the first. Anyway, this

(52:43):
guy invited Isaiah Esquire and Aqua Flora. Those are the
two black drag queen performers to do this opening ceremony.
Now get a load of what they did. They lip
synced to Aretha Franklin's A Deeper Love and Beyonce's I
Was Here while wearing bright gold outfits and dancing across

(53:04):
the room. It is that an exhibition of talent? I'm
sure if Joe Joe Drecker was a fan of Aretha
Franklin's A Deeper Love and knew the lyrics to it,
he could lip sync it as well, and so could I.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
If I knew the words? Would I be invited? Would it?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Would it be a considered meritorious or talented in any way,
shape or form. No, But if you're black and you're
a Drag Queen, you're allowed to stand up and do
the opening ceremony for the organ House or representatives. If
they sung it themselves, then I'd give them a little
bit more credit. Five minute performance and it was a
standing ovation apparently from a lot of the House members there. Nelson,

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the one that invited them, gave his remarks. Remember he's
the first LGBTQ plus African American organ legislator. Okay, here's
what he had to say about it. Somebody wrote, WTF
question mark question mark after this statement. I'd like to
take a moment to extend deep gratitude and recognition to
the incredible Drag performers who joined us this morning, Aquaflora

(54:12):
and Isaiah Esquire joining us on the House for today,
in addition to all of the LGBTQ plus folks in
the building. Your presence, artistry, and courage are a powerful
reminder of the joy, resilience, and cultural impact of drag
in Oregon and beyond. Thank you for sharing your light

(54:33):
with us this morning. It's an honor to have you here.
Oh but there's more. This performance also suggested to be
an honor to the new Oregon House resolution that quote
recognizes and honors the history of black drag in Oregon.

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That we the members of the House Representatives of the
eighty third Legislative Assembly, recognize and on or Oregon's rich
history of black drag, and we congratulate all those whose
spirited contributions have made Organs black drag community. What are
the most vibrant and vital in the nation. Read the resolution,

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Speaker 5 (57:36):
Oh it's my pleasure, Brian. Yeah, we got some interesting
things this morning.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Frightening.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
And it's sadly, Brian, it seems like each week it's
something a little crazier than best. You know, I often
find myself thinking why did I get into this business?
You know, because every day it's just something crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
And built in revenue stream.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Well that's that's true, but man, it can be Uh,
it's really frustrating. Trying to get people to take this
stuff seriously. Today, you're going to well, I sincerely hope
you're right, but we shall see. So which one you
want to start with? We can go wherever you want
to go.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Well, let's get the worst of the news out of
the way up front. The sixteen billion passwords leaked and
I put it out Davil. Everybody's had their email address
out on the internet. Oh my god, you had a
data leak. They got your internet address, and they know
your home address or where you used to live, and
all that stuff is generally available information on the internet anyway,

(58:43):
So I always roll my eyes and say.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Well whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
But passwords are rarely something that's been hacked and leaked out.
In this particular case, sixteen billion Apple, Facebook, Google and
other passwords have been leaked.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Yeah, this is this is a fairly disturbing story. And
before I get into the specifics of it, when you
hear some nerd like me tell you you need to
have a strong, unique password for every account. You need
to have multifactor authentication turned on ideally fish resistant MFA.
And I'll get more specific here in a minute. Or
maybe even use pass keys, which are a newer technology

(59:19):
not supported by every platform out there. This is one
of the reasons, probably the main reason why if the
bad guys know because of these sorts of leaks, and
because they know how human beings behave, they know that
people will use the same password on multiple accounts. Now,

(59:40):
some people might have two or three select passwords. You
don't have the exact same password on every account. But
if you have a week password, you know, let's say
it's eight characters long and it's just numbers or something right,
or it's a word like password or any word in
the English dictionary that can be cracked in a matter
of minutes. Modern technology that's easily accessible to any hacker. Right,

(01:00:04):
you don't have to be some sort of Merlin of
hacking to do this. The software is readily available, it's
easy to do, and the bad guys know. People follow
into these bad habits because it's hard to have let's
say fifty different strong, unique passwords. I get that, I
totally understand that. But the bad guys know this. So

(01:00:24):
now when you see this sort of situation here, and
it appears this data has been collected over time from
many different sites using something called infostealers, perhaps keystroke loggers.
This is software. Again, bad guys know about this stuff
readily available to the bad guys. You get a phishing email,
you click a link. Somewhere in the background, software is

(01:00:46):
downloaded to your computer and it doesn't do anything obviously nefarious, right,
You just keep doing your thing, But it's sitting there
quietly in the background, capturing all of your keystrokes, which
means all of your passwords.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
The spectation around this particular enormous data set which includes
passwords is that this has been combined from infostealers keystrokeloggers
over time. And when you see you know again. So
when guys like me say, well, you know, we see
these same bad habits with people, it's partially because of
this sort of thing. It's not just speculation. It's collecting

(01:01:22):
these giant sets of data that have been leaked and
looking at the passwords that have been used. So now
when you take that into account, and you take social
engineering into account getting people to cough this stuff up,
and you look at all this data, it really drives
home the point that your data is out there in
varying degrees. Your passwords may very well be out there,

(01:01:47):
and it just makes you subject to becoming a victim
very easily if you don't have multifactor authentication turned on. Now,
that is not fool proof, right, multi factor authentication, two
factor authentication, two step verification. There are different ways to
do it, from a text message all the way up
to a hardware key. You have to plug into your
device to essentially send that code. But if I can

(01:02:11):
guess hack or have a dump of your passwords and
you don't have a multi factor authentication turned on, I'm
into your accounts. I'm you know, I can virtually anything
to you. I can steal your money, I can perpetrate
identity theft in your name. And I know it's hard
for people to grasp this, but there are many professional

(01:02:33):
criminals out there, and once they have this information, it's
just a matter of time until they get to you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
So tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
All right, back to the passwords, because the second article
deals with another four billion user record exposure. Let us
continue this information and discussion.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Dave Hatter.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
Yeah, So the bottom line, really, Brian, if you go
back to the Forbes article we started with talking about
the sixteen billion passwords, again, it's increasingly easy, especially if
you don't have any sort of basic cyber hygiene in place,
to get these infostealers. You see these giant dumps. You know,
if you have the same password and multiple accounts. Again,

(01:04:40):
if I can get your password for one, well I
can just try different things. If your information is in
one of these dumps, I know what sites you use. Right, So,
in light of this and many many outlets have reported
on this again, this Forbes article is pretty good. I
just want to read something here, real quick quote. The
fact that credentials in question are of high value for

(01:05:00):
widely used services carries with it far reaching implications, which
is why it's more important than ever for consumers to
invest in password management solutions and dark web monitoring tools.
The latter can alert users when their passwords have been exposed,
hopefully enabling them to take action. Then, it goes on
to say, ultimately enforces that cybersecurity is not just a
technical challenge. Change your account passwords, use a password manager,

(01:05:24):
and switch to pass keys wherever possible. So, like I
said before, if you have multi factor authentication turned on,
then if I get your password, I still have this
extra hurdle, right, I have to get that one time
generally thirty second in life code to log in. This
is why multi factor authentication, while not foolproof, is very important.

(01:05:45):
So my advice to people in light of this is
as painful as this is going to be. You really
ought to change your passwords. You need to make sure
you have a unique password on every account. It needs
to be a strong password. Twelve characters are more. Longer
is better combination of letters, symbols and numbers. You know,
the more complex and the longer it is, the more

(01:06:06):
difficult it is to crack. Once you get into about
twelve characters, it's more or less uncrackable, assuming it's some
combination of letters, symbols, and numbers. However, I also understand
how difficult it is for people to come up with,
let's say, fifty strong unique passwords. I totally understand this, right,
I'm a human being too. I couldn't remember all that stuff. So,

(01:06:28):
you know, first and foremost multi factor authentication. I recommend,
in light of this breach, you change your passwords. I
recommend you get a password manager. You have always recommended
the one that you use as an illustration.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
One password one that's the spelled out word one password,
the number.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
One password, number one spell that password, the number one
number one password. Now there are other good ones, Brian,
you know keeper. You can use sites like zd net,
Tom's Guide, c net PC magazine to look at what
their editors say about various password managers. Some are free.
Most use a freemium model where you can get the

(01:07:08):
free basic services and then you pay for additional services
like a family plan and things like that. And people
will often ask me, well, how do I know I
could trust the password manager? What happens if they get hacked?
If it's done right, then, assuming you have a strong
master password on your password manager, and assuming you have
multi factor authentication turned on your password manager, even if

(01:07:31):
they could steal the entire password database, it's encrypted using
something called zero knowledge encryption. It's encrypted on your computer
using your secret key before it ever gets to their database.
Once it's out there, it's encrypted, they have to crack
the encryption to use it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
So all right, hold on, just real quick here, at
the risk of going a little too long, and I
just want to get as quickly as you can explain this.
I download one password, I use a password manager I
come to work. Is that password manager located on my
home laptop?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Do I access it via an internet site? And therefore
I have access to all the past? How does it work?
Real quickly?

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
It depends, but most of them work the way you
described the latter way you describe where it's going to
be installed as like a browser extension, an app on
your phone, an app on your computer. So wherever you are,
whatever device you're on, you simply need to know your
master password and you get the MFA code to unlock
it so it will travel with you and be available

(01:08:31):
across multiple devices on you know, Apple, Android, Windows, Mac.
The better password managers will work wherever you are. That's
a good question, and sometimes it's difficult when people first
get started. But the password manager will make it easy
for you to create an insane password for every account.
And then you only need to know one password, the
one to unlock the password manager, and so password manager

(01:08:56):
MFA change your passwords. The password manager will make it
easy to do that. And for any site that supports
past keys, and then we won't have time to get
into this, you should use the past key option. It
eliminates the need for a password. It's based on cryptography,
but not every site supports it, so it's a new
upcoming technology. Use those where you can.

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may have the answer in this article publishing Newsweek.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Yeah, sadly, Brian, I think you're right, and real quick,
when I put up the show notes together for this,
I'll put some stuff in there about past keys. Oh okay, good,
kind of understand how that works, and maybe next week
we can dig into that in more detail.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
But wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
Yeah, I found this was a pretty disturbing article from Newsweek,
and I encourage parents and grandparents to go read it.
I know it's a challenge. I mean, you know, I
have kids now they're older, and the oldest, you know,
sort of grew up free cell phone for most of
their childhood. I mean, by the time they were teenagers,

(01:11:32):
they had smartphones, mobile phones, et cetera. Yeah, but you know,
I tablets, smartphones, that sort of thing really weren't a
thing for my three older kids for the most part
when they were really young, you know, right now, you know,
I still have a seventeen year old who's a senior
in high school next year, so it's been more of
a challenge with him. And so again, you know, I

(01:11:53):
understand how challenging it is for parents not only to
hear this information but to also figure out what to
do about it. Whether it's just the amount of time
they spend on these devices, whether it's their exposure to
all kinds of terrible things that you and I would
never have had exposure to. Brian, Although you know, when
I hear people talk about this, I think back. I'm
sure you and Joe can remember the good old days

(01:12:14):
of the faces of death. Do you remember that?

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
I that one doesn't ring a bell with me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
I can remember, you know, my friends like, oh, you've
got to see this. It was like you go to
get this tape and it was supposedly, you know, real
footage of people dying in all kinds of horrific ways
of doing things like eating live monkey brains and all
kinds of wild stuff. I have see, So you must
have you must have had better parents than mine.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Yea parents.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, well, I just had to go next door to
listen to the Georgia Carlon records and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
We weren't allowed to that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I wasn't even allowed to watch mash or all in
the family when I was a little kid.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Yeah, I hear you, because a lot of times would
be the same thing, like, you know, I'd go to
a friend's house and we'd bust out the the Steve
Martin or Richard pryor or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Yeah, exactly faces a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Death for its time was you know, and I'm not
even sure a lot of it was real, but you know,
it was very controversial. But but but the bigger point is,
you know, that was the exception rather than the rule.
And now obviously your kids have access to device devices
at home, Yeah they could. And even if you put
parental controls in and that sort of thing, which we've
talked about before, there's nothing necessary that stops your kids

(01:13:25):
from going next door where they don't have the same
kind of restrictions. And so again, I understand it's disturbing
to hear this. It's challenging for parents, But when you
look at this, you know, research conducted by the American
Psychological Association, published in the Journal of Psychological Bullets and Reviewed,
analyzed one hundred and seventeen separate studies involving more than
two hundred ninety two thousand children under the age of

(01:13:47):
ten from around the world. And there was one particular
line in here I'm trying to find again about you know,
obviously correlation is not causation. But they go on to
say that, you know, because this look that the period
of time rather than just like a snapshot of time,
and it looked at things like TV, watching, video games,

(01:14:07):
social media, online school work, basically any anything that involved
using some sort of digital device. It's you know, they
basically say, here it is. Sorry, it took me a second.
Quote it's about as close as we can get to
causal evidence without randomly cutting screens for thousands of kids,
he said, But still we can't completely rule out other

(01:14:28):
factors like parenting style that could influence both screen use
and emotional problems. And you know, it talks about how,
you know, you see all kinds of negative consequences psychologically
from kids the more time they spend on these things,
you know, type of content matter. Gaming was more strongly
linked with negative outcomes than education and recreational screen US

(01:14:48):
children with socioeconomic or sorry socio emotional difficulties were especially
drawn to gaming as a coping mechanism, And you know,
I get that now. I've been on both sides to
this gaming thing. You know, I grew up playing video games.
It's a large extent of why I got into this
business in the first place, because you know, I was
the right age for Atari and that sort of thing.

(01:15:10):
I liked video games, got interested in computers as a result,
and that's that's how I got to where I am today.
Video games are certainly a lot more realistic and in
many cases a lot more violent than you know, something
like Space Invaders when we were kids. You know, I've
played plenty of violent video games. I haven't gone out
and committed any atrocities, but I understand if you're if

(01:15:33):
you're running short, yeah yeah, but yeah, parents and grandparents,
you should go read this Newsweek article. I'll link it
it and then think about how much time the kids
are spending on there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Really should cut back on the amount of time. Just
put time limit on it on.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
A daily basis.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Everyone, everyone should probably cut back. Brian probably a lot
better off.

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shame we have nothing to talk about by way of topics. Well,
there's always that. It seems, oh my, just a crazy
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Steve Scales, and the Steel dossier, and all the other
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to cover up and destroy. A bunch of questions swirling
around that. We will talk about that, folks, but of
course I want to first dive into the Israeli Iran
situation We've got going on right now. I think all
my listeners know what's going on. It becomes a question now.
And Donald Trump said within the next couple of weeks

(01:17:40):
he is going to decide whether or not to use
the Chris Christie baumbs to blow up the Fordham Nuclear facility,
which is where these centrifuges are apparently buried underground. And
since so many people widely report that, I'm pretty confident
that the Mossad and the Israeli defense forces are very
clear that what's in there and where it happens to
be located. If they did use these giant, thirty thousand

(01:18:02):
pound bombs, that they would know exactly where to drop them.
You feel comfortable with that sort of conclusion we're at
right now.

Speaker 9 (01:18:09):
Well, I think it's hard to argue that the Israeli intelligence.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Is weak.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
It's very strong.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (01:18:16):
I mean to look what they have done. I mean,
just these surgical takeouts of the scientists and the leadership
in Iran. That's unbelievable in today's day and age. It
was beyond their expectations, widely reported. I mean, they knew
where these generals were going to be. They apparently were
able to lure them into a face to face meeting.
But as it turns out, when they launched that missile strike,

(01:18:37):
they got a hell of a lot more of the
top command than they really expected to get. Well, I
you know, that's that's good for them. I mean, that's
just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I have a lot of.

Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
Hope, I guess, and some faith in what the Israelis
are capable of. And I don't think that they started
this without out a potential plan of their own.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Oh clearly, and it's in the works for a long time.

Speaker 9 (01:19:04):
Yeah, And so you know, they may or may not
need us help to ultimately complete the goal, which, as
Donald Trump said, his goal is no nukes, and he
pretty much ends it there. He doesn't talk about regime change.
He just says, no nukes. Don't want you to have
any nukes. That's the threat to the United States and
the free world. The world watches and listens to Donald Trump.

(01:19:28):
There's no doubt about it. I mean, he just dominates
the airwaves. So what he says matters. They're talking, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I was just going to say, I appreciate and sort
of embrace that concept of no regime change, because you know,
it's the B words you know versus the B words
you don't. There is always going to be a supreme
leader that's going to step in the place of whatever
iotoli it dies or gets waxed or is blown up.
The religious philosophy and the ideology is not going to

(01:19:59):
change with the eradication of one or two guys.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
No, but it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Depends, right, and so who are the other one or
two guys or thousands of guys. Ironically, the day after
the attack, I'm in DC in an uber. I always
talked to the uber drivers. Most of them are foreign.
I ask where they're from, and you know, if I've
been there, it's kind of interesting conversation. I have not
been to Iran, although in Iraq I was at the edges.

(01:20:23):
But the driver was from Iran. I said, oh what
about last night? He goes, all of Iran is happy,
All of Iran is happy. Yeah, I mean I didn't
pull those words out of him, but he's telling me
my family. I get families still there. All of Iran
is happy. Forty six years we've had this regime. Yeah,

(01:20:44):
forty six years. Well, this is the kind of chatter
we heard from the Iraqis ahead of us going into Iraq,
that the citizenry is going to rise up and everyone's
going to be happy and embrace the US forces.

Speaker 12 (01:20:55):
And they did.

Speaker 9 (01:20:58):
It was the insurgents seeking power after that saw a
power vacuum and they wanted to fill it. And that's
what the insurgency was. And that was multinational.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
If you end up dominating the masses.

Speaker 9 (01:21:13):
Unfortunately, if they have the strength muscle, I know, I know,
I know, yeah, the factor of life.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
But you know, we've we've.

Speaker 9 (01:21:20):
Moved the Kneimt since the region in the Vincent. That's
not uncommon. We do that type of thing all the time,
a little show of force. And you know, look, Donald
Trump is probably the first president to actually stand up
and say I don't know what I'm going to do.
No one knows what I'm going to do, and I
think he does that intentionally. Look, we as a country

(01:21:44):
have maybe short memories, but I'm going to tell you
from my experience. I remember nineteen seventy nine. I remember
the four hundred and forty four days sure of American
hostages in Iran. That's the first time I heard the
word iotola.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yeah, I remember the iotola toilet mints in the bottom
of the toilet the urinals remember those?

Speaker 9 (01:22:03):
Yeh yeah, yeah, I mean I remember that. And in Iraq,
you know, I'm taking care of guys blown up. The
forensics are there. The weaponry that was used to blow
up an American military came from Iran and Sulimani. You know,
I was grateful. Actually, Sulimani was on his way to

(01:22:24):
kill more Americans or attempt to. When Donald Trump took
him out during his first term. That was pretty surgical
in and of itself. Right, I don't know where are people.
Some people might be in. Well, if you do that,
that's okay, you know, But we don't want to get
into a whole work. Nobody nobody does. Nobody does the
Vietnam syndrome the Iraq syndrome, the Afghanistan syndrome that we

(01:22:47):
all carry. You know, it's like, when is this ever
going to be over there? You know that that's where
America is, and that's what America's worried about. And I
get that, and I think the President understands that. But
it's interesting to see some of his biggest political supporters
in the House and in the Senate are being highly

(01:23:07):
critical and jumping to the conclusion this will be another
twenty year war where that's not who this president.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Is all right now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
The main suggestion is it seems to be the focus
rather seems to be that Fordham nuclear facility. It just
keeps getting brought up. If we can just eradicate that
we have set them back to the Stone agent as
far as the nuclear program is going, they've already blown
up all the other surface of nuclear facilities and installation,
the heavy water facilities, and that the targets they were

(01:23:35):
able to hit or are continuing to hit. But this
one's a problem because it's buried so deep enter the
I've been calling them Chris Christie bombs said, thirty thousand
pound bombs. But these can penetrate Wall Street Journal had
an interesting video on it. I've been regular recommending my
listeners take a look at how they work. There's still

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remains a question that if we go ahead and do that,
and that's where the complicating factors come in. And maybe
you can offer your insight on this, because as I
have read over and over again, that's going to require
the use of US military personnel. There are are b
two bombers. There are bombs. Israel doesn't own any yet,
they don't have any airplanes that are capable of toting
and deploying these bombs, So somebody's got to do it.

(01:24:21):
And right now, all errors seem to point to us.
First question before we deal with the complicating factors on
that and whether that's true or not. Will they actually
reach their intended target? And there seems to be some
question as to whether or not they can. Yes, you
can lose them, Yes they can blow up, but will
they do the damage that is necessary? Do we have
any confidence that that actually that they'll actually work? Well,

(01:24:43):
I think that's the closest thing to it, and it
certainly seems to me that it would just destroy quite
a bit of the infrastructure associated to the centrifuge. Yeah,
you know, like, can you even get to them?

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Right? You have to dig it out? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:24:56):
I mean so yeah, and then what and then it
be for anyone the Israelis to target those that are
trying to dig it out.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
I mean, I think a good point.

Speaker 9 (01:25:07):
I think that you know, the damage can be done
even if it's just you know, surrounding the access to
what they built so deep.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Fair enough, second question on that, and then we'll take
a break. Israel was able to successfully, in another brilliant,
brilliant military effort, launched that sucks neck software into the
centrifuges in Iran and it destroyed all of them. A
brilliant use of technology too for warfare purposes. That didn't

(01:25:35):
stop them from moving forward their nuclear program. They just
rebuilt the centrifuges. Right, we wouldn't we be this. I
mean if you put aside the idea that okay, well,
we're not going to be able to change the regime.
I don't want to change the regime, but the motives
of the regime are to obtain a nuclear weapon. And
since they're butted up now real close with China and
some of our other adversaries, all you know, many of

(01:25:55):
whom have these nuclear technology? Could they not acquire one
or otherwise just hit the ground running and start all
over again and pursue a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
And isn't that likely?

Speaker 9 (01:26:05):
Well, those are all the pieces on the chessboard, aren't
they see that's why? Yeah, no, no, they really are.
It's fair. But the underlying belief is that although they
use each other for strength, that being North Korea, Iran,
China and Russia, that the big two with nukes of

(01:26:26):
three really don't want them to have it. They really
don't want them to have it. I mean, keep in
mind they still disagree religiously. Yeah, it's like having a
crazy uncle. You know, you're related to them, and you'll
play nicely with Thanksgiving, but if you want them to
run around with a firearm, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
That's kind of it.

Speaker 9 (01:26:45):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean they see potential problems
with that as well. And then there's plenty of things
that they still would disagree with Iran on, but they
use them as an ally when necessary.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Fair enough.

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About KRCD talk station talking with citizen former Congressman brad
winstervin studio. We're talking matters military. Of course, he probably
served his country and still is in service to his country.
He's had all of the security clearances under the sun,
and so he is in a very great position to
talk about the matters we're talking about. And pivoting over
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Constitution United States of America, which vests the power to
wage war in the hands of Congress. And then we
have you know, these sort of the War Powers Resolution
in nineteen seventy three, which loosens up and delegates some
of the authority from Congress to the president. Never been
tested in court, although Supreme Court presidents suggests it will
be found unconstitutional, but we live with that. Then there's

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this thing we call authorization use of military force, which
also isn't in the constant, but they do issue those.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
Where are we right now?

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
On we're talking about either Trump's gonna do it or
he's not, but does he have legal foundation to do it?

Speaker 9 (01:30:12):
In the first place you said, where are we now?
We are in two thousand and one, this is where
we are.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Go go dust it off.

Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
Well, I mean, I will say this and I'll say this,
you know, as a soldier and as a former politician,
if you will, the support of the American people is
something you always need and want to have, of course,
before you go into action. I mean, after nine to eleven,
it was giddy up, America's flying the flag and here
we go. Right, you don't get to do that to

(01:30:43):
us when it comes to lawmakers. You look at what
we've done over the years with agencies. We created agencies
so we wouldn't have to vote on things. I mean,
and it's a real problem today. That's a whole nother segment.
But oh, but you know that's that's how I somewhat
look at where we are with the authority for use

(01:31:04):
of military force. It was granted to the president in
two thousand and one after nine to eleven, and understandably
because you had to have a commander in chief that
had the capabilities to respond the way the country wanted
us to respond, right, and it was a horse.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Of a different color because we weren't fight fighting a
nation flying under a flag in uniform. It was sort
of this nebulous group of terrorists that seemed to be
all over the place. It was totally different, right, and
so you have to get declare war against like people
that are everywhere in the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Yeah, exactly really what we did.

Speaker 9 (01:31:37):
So I'll read what the AUMF said and then the
interpretations today, and I'm looking at an article by Andrew
McCarthy which was in National Review. They said, the President
is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against
those nations, organizations, or persons he determines they probably put
have said, should have said he or she, but he

(01:31:58):
determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that
occurred on September eleven, two thousand and one, or harbored
such organizations or persons in order to prevent any future
attacks of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations,
or persons.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Okay, So because Iran was involved and did harbor terrorists
back in twenty twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:32:26):
Throughout throughout the process, they were they were moving al
Qaeda in and out of Afghanistan. They were facilitating al
Qaeda's movements and efforts let's put it that way. Were
they aware of the nine to eleven attack? Probably not,
because that was held very close hence its success.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Unfortunately, most people my listening audios think the Saudis were
behind that one. Anyway, considering who the people who the
bombers were.

Speaker 9 (01:32:55):
Who knows what kesh Ptel may find and John Radcliff
we're going to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Yeah, So by extension then that because Iran was involved
back then in that those activities. By extension, fast forward
to twenty twenty five, you're saying Donald Trump has the
authority under that authorization for you some military force to
drop the bombs if he chooses to do something.

Speaker 9 (01:33:17):
Because the AUMs authorization of force was against nations that
harbor nine to eleven operatives, nations or people or organizations.
All right, remember remember the phrase if you hou'se a terrorist,
you are a terrorist. Understood. Now, we can debate whether
that language extends all the way to the current activities

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of obtaining a nuclear weapon for their own behalf of
the Iranians, and whether that has some connection or whether
that relates to terrorist activity.

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But we'll let you hash that out amongst your soul.
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Seven thirty fifty five krsee talk station and enjoying the conversation.
I wish it wasn't the subject matters so much, but
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questions getting answer and by private citizen former Congressman Brad Weinstrip,
who's in the studio pivoting over. I know you think
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anybody who's in favorite of transparency and getting to the

(01:36:11):
bottom of stuff is in my uh is I'm a
fan of. And boy, there's a million places we could
go with what cash Hotel is looking into and what
he is talking about and documents that he is finally
handing over in spite of the fact that you, among
other folks on subcommittees asked for records and were denied

(01:36:33):
access to them on how many countless occasions, how beout
You've lost track of how many times they basically told you,
you know, with a metaphorical verbal middle finger. And you know, Bran,
it's not just the FBI, It's across all the agencies.
You know, I was chairing the Pandemic Committee, and we
want we go to HHS Health and Human Services. We
want to see your documents concerning the decision on masks

(01:36:54):
or school closures. Okay, and you know we're just trying
to learn what'd you do, why'd you do it? What
can we do better?

Speaker 9 (01:36:59):
In the few we're met with a lawyer and so
we have to The process is you have to ask
a few times and then you can subpoena them and
then they send us stuff redacted. What an HHS needs
to be redacted? Right? I get that, maybe for CIA
documents and things like that protecting names.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
And maybe a medical study that they relied on in
support of the mass requirements. Well, here's all the research
that was done. These are you know, peer reviewed scientific studies.
You don't redact that, you hand it over.

Speaker 9 (01:37:28):
It's open source stuff too that we're asking about. I mean,
it's unbelievable that that needs to change. Only in the
military is unethical, unlawful.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
That's amazing, isn't it?

Speaker 9 (01:37:40):
Isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Maybe there would be some legislative accountability. Oh my god,
the idea that they might hold themselves accountable through Now
that will never happen.

Speaker 9 (01:37:48):
Well, you know what, Brown, we did that with PHISA reform.
Remember PHISA was the court abused by the FBI to
get warrants on carter Page. They didn't come forth with
the exculpatory evidence. They they went to Carter Page in
a foreign land and said, we can get you Hillary's
emails from the Russians. He said, I can't do that.
That would be treason. That should be end of story, right,

(01:38:10):
and not only that, that was entrapman to begin with.
But they don't go to the court and tell them.
He said that they go and say things that allow
them to get another warmant warrant that can't be done anymore.
And if you do that, you're going to jail. So
we did make some changes there. Yeah, but the flies
of courts still exist. Let's a conversation for another day.
I don't want to go down that road. My blood
pressure will go through the roof.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
But we now find out cash Hotel said the Chinese
Communist Party issued twenty thousand plus fake IDs for the
purpose of influencing the election under Joe Biden. We also
have the baseball game that you were at where that
loan gunman and they concluded over the FBI that was
suicide by cop, which was absolute nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
You knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I knew that because at the time no one even
knew there were police officers present. It was fortuitous that
the Capitol Police had a detail effort. Steve Scalice, you
saved the man's life. Turns out he had a list
of basically all the Republican congressmen and women on the field,
and that had he wiped them all out, it truly
would have been an overthrow of the government because there

(01:39:12):
would be no representatives from the Republican side of the Ledger.

Speaker 9 (01:39:15):
I've made that point when they were doing the unlike
January sixth. When they were doing the January sixth commission,
I went to rules and I said, expand the commission
to look at what happened at the baseball field. I said,
that's an insurrection. Yeah, if Steve Sclice went there's no police,
he kills twenty people, changing the balance of power in
the House of Representatives. But all I wanted, what we

(01:39:35):
wanted was the case file. Intelligence committee wanted the case file.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
It wasn't like you have security Clearicy. It wasn't in
the York.

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
Times asking for the case file.

Speaker 9 (01:39:44):
It was the Intelligence Committee, and they would not give
it to us, would not give it to us, And
finally cash Ptel gave it to us. We worked that issue.
I still have an ig investigation taking place looking into
the whole process, and by that that's when you start
looking at people's emails and other things that you can
find where maybe someone says, we can't say a Democrat

(01:40:06):
did this.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Yeah, that's where you get to most maybe because.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
There's always the lingering question of why why won't you
hand this information over? Moving back to your point on
the whole COVID nineteen investigation, why did you have a
mask mandate or the six or the ten foot standpoint
stand apart six foot mandate. That's a simple question. The
American people should be entitled to know the answer. Why
did you reach that conclusion? But they're not telling you,

(01:40:31):
which is where conspiracy theories easily pop up. And then
of course we could pivot over to the Steele dossier
and all the shenanigans behind the scenes going on with
that and.

Speaker 9 (01:40:41):
Who was colluding with Russians.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Christopher Steele. Christopher Steele, he wrote that with Russians at
behest of the DNC, who paid for it?

Speaker 9 (01:40:48):
Brian I looked at the other side of the aisle,
and I said, how did you all feel when you
realized you paid for that? Dossier. Not one of them
looked up. They kept their heads down. Not one of
them looked up. I mean, we've look we're in a look.
We got to take advantage of these next two years.
We got people in place that can try and bring

(01:41:09):
some accountability and hopefully establish some trust in the agencies
at least while these people are there. But overall, our
agencies need an overhaul. They need to be like the military.
If you don't get promoted, you're out, and you are
term limited. This should be a service you're serving the
American people. It should be an honor to be in

(01:41:30):
an agency, and the agencies should be subject matter experts,
advising the country and advising Congress on path forward.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
But rather than that, they are experts on advancing their
own particular party interest. Yes, which is where our lack
of confidence and faith springs from, as evidenced by just
a handful of things we tossed out among a much
bigger pile of other what I'll call shenanigans by these
various agencies. We'll continue with seasoned citizen names. Former Congressman

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a former congressman in studio talking about a variety of issues.
And going back to and I think it's important that
we spend a little bit more time talking about that
the insurrection, the violent effort to overthrow the government and

(01:44:16):
control of the government by the shoot the gunman on
the baseball field back in twenty seventeen that injured Thievescalise
had he and you pointed this out, like if this
happened right now we were talking off air about this
is some craze loon was able to take out five Republicans,
then the balance of power and the Speaker of the
House would flip over to Hakim Jeffries because you have

(01:44:40):
to have special elections to substitute the now deceased congress
person who's the victim of this effort. And it really
does show you how precarious the situation is. You know,
Hakeem Jeffries, the Speaker of the House does not reflect
the will of the American people because they wanted Donald
Trump and Republicans apparently to control the government. So you

(01:45:03):
had mentioned at one point there was some proposed bipartisan
solution to this, but apparently that's never gone anywhere, which
is concerning so well.

Speaker 9 (01:45:11):
It was led by me and Derek Kilmer, who actually
came to me with the concept of concern. He said, Brad,
you know, after the baseball shooting, you might be a
good person to, you know, share this with me and
try and push the spearheaded if you will. And what
we're trying to do is have a continuity of government.
And as you said, and we set off the air,

(01:45:33):
you want to maintain the will of the people with
your representation in government.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
So Republicans and of course take away the incentive to
try something like that.

Speaker 9 (01:45:43):
The incentive and you know I called the acts of
the baseball field and insurrection. It was you you talk about,
you know, trying to take over the government in some way,
that that's a great way to do it. So are
what our bill does or recommends, and it's open for debate.
But we got to have something in place in my mind.
In the world do we live in today, and especially

(01:46:05):
after what you saw in Minnesota. Oh yeah, that should
be another warning. But our bill says, when you get
into Congress, you have five people's names that you put aside,
and they are there, and the governor of your state
needs to pick one of them. So they're your choices,
and the governor picks them. So regardless the governor Republican

(01:46:28):
or Democrat, picks one of the five that you chose, right, right,
So you can't flip it to another party, right, you know,
by different governors. So that that's the way we had
it in place, and you only hold that seat until
a special election has taken the place.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
That's the key.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
It's a temporary placeholder under the same political party until
the people have the choice of who they won in
that role exactly exactly and who could be against that conceptually,
because this is not a Republican or Democrat reality. I mean,
if the Democrats had control of the House and only
five of them were you know, we're the majority, some

(01:47:07):
crazy lunatic right winger could take out five of them
much at the Democrat practice, right, yep, and then they
would lose power. So you know this, this sounds like
a no brainer and something it should have been in
place on the I mean close on the heels of
what happened that day, and yet oh probably didn't because
the FBI determined that this was a suicide by cop,

(01:47:27):
not someone who wanted to overthrow the control of the House.

Speaker 9 (01:47:30):
Way to put those two together, I like that, but
it takes a constitutional amendment. That's oh, and how hard
does somebody want to work on it? Well, we were
willing to and but the Washington Post reached out and
they did. He did a very fair article. He quoted
me accurately and everything else, and commented on this just yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
So it should be an easy sell though, right right.
I mean, you know, manding the Constitution is very complicated process.
But when you're talking about something so politically neutral and
so important, given the background circumstances and the fact that
they'rebove for the grace of God, go you or I,
depending on party. I don't know I would think this

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would be smooth sailing.

Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
I think there's too many people that want to bury
their head in the sand about the realities that existed.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Well, maybe cash Betel's releasing the information showing exactly what
really happened, we might open people's eyes up to how
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Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
The morning we are looking for artists Findley. He has
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Congressman Dealer's Choice, you said you had something you want
to bring up in the last segment.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
We have here today.

Speaker 9 (01:51:43):
Yeah, I think something very interesting. And there's a non
classified version to the work that was done on this
bipartisan commission. It's the National Security Commission on Emerging Biotechnology,
and they have put out a booklet, but you can
you can find them online and there's a version. And
so being on the President's Intelligence Advisory Board and having

(01:52:04):
a clearance, they said, and all the work that I
have done in well biothreats more than just biotechnology. Would
you want to come in and see what we have concluded?
And there's so many positives. There's so many things that
we can do. You talk about information storage, you can
do that with DNA, and you can take what takes

(01:52:27):
huge computers down to almost nothing. And what we can
do and can continue to do actually in agriculture and
gene based therapies. Now, from where I sit with Intelligence
Committee and former soldier, you always worry about the nevarious actors,
but in biotechnology itself, we have to be the leaders.

(01:52:48):
We have to be the innovators. Otherwise we are going
to be the under the thumb of China, who has
made it very clear this is their number one priority.
So there's positives can come out of this tremendously and
we want to be the leaders on it, control our
supply chains and do these types of things. You know,
that's what's out there. That's a priority. But when it

(01:53:11):
comes to other things too. You know, we talk about
armed services, and it's one of the representatives who's on
Armed services or services said to me, you know, we
sit here when we talk about ships and planes and
all this stuff. We've got to be engaged with this
so that we can be the leaders in hypersonics and
all these types of things that would actually help keep

(01:53:34):
us safe.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Okay, And that may one may argue also include the
crazy craft the Chinese are doing with the Wu hunt
instead of virology, tinking around with viruses. So I mean,
we don't want them to tink around with viruses. I mean,
the threat to humanity is too grave that we should
even be involved with this.

Speaker 9 (01:53:53):
And yet you know what it apparently is going on everywhere. Yeah,
I mean they're not saying and let's go do gain
and function research. They're not, by the way, if you're
trying to if you're trying to predict a potential virus,
which is what the claims were made by Fauci Collins
all those we're trying to predict what might happen in
nature so that we're ready and have a vaccine for it.

(01:54:16):
Oh yeah, but you might create a pandemic if it leaks. Ah, well,
the benefits out weigh they risk, They don't, they don't.
But you can do all this just by getting the data.
Get the data of the viruses that are existing in
nature and the components of it, and other components that
are nearby that could create a greater pathogen. You could

(01:54:36):
do it all with AI with probably with really good predictability.

Speaker 4 (01:54:40):
All right, here's here's that I observe. We have right now.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Cancer, we have right now, Alzheimer's disease, and dementia. We
have right now, a whole bunch of diseases like Luke
Grigg's disease for which we have no cure. How about
we deal with what we know and find these cures
for the things that we know about and it actually
exists in reality, as opposed to cooking them up in
a pot and making something out of whole cloth and

(01:55:06):
then deciding how we're going to cure it, find a
cure for it.

Speaker 9 (01:55:10):
Well, the idea is there's room enough for all of
that the crisper technology and things like that where you
can change outcomes. I mean, if we're not doing it,
they are, and they are more inclined to use it
for nefarious reasons in some ways. But I remember going
I don't know about that. I remember going to MIT
a few years ago and they were showing us, like,

(01:55:33):
you can reproduce the cells that make up a turtle shell. Okay,
so why can't we use those living cells to create
armor or to create the side of your car? You know,
how can we modify it? Can we do these things?
So all these things come from nature, So you're talking

(01:55:53):
about plastics and other things. They can be grown rather
than actually produce in the lab. It's just all very interesting.
It's going that way, and there are good uses that
will better serve mankind. That's where we want to focus.
But we have to be leary of those that would
have nefarious I mean I always say this, the Wright

(01:56:15):
brothers never thought you would take this and fly into
buildings and kill three thousand people. But we have to
be on guard for that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
I expect You're right, Brad webs Trip.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
It is always great having you in stadium Counda on
these conversations face to face, and we've got a lot
of ground that we covered this morning, and I really
enjoyed the thoughtful exchange given the complex realities of what
we're dealing with in this world. And I'll look forward
to having you back in and best of health and
love you and your whole family and enjoy the rest
of your summer, my friends.

Speaker 9 (01:56:45):
Yeah, thanks you too, and thanks for the opportunity to
come in. I love this face to face. Yeah, we
have good conversation online and offline exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
I know the listeners missed out on the off mike stuff.
We bring it in and yeah, well take care of yourself.
I'll look for our next conversation because I'm certain there'll
be more as long as you're willing to come in.
You have a a place to uh to engage in
this and we'll do it again real soon as Brad
coming up, Josh, Judge Josh Berkowitz scorn to win in
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very happy Friday to you. Pivoting over from broader issues
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from the Municipal Court, Judge Josh Berkowitz. It's great having
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(01:58:02):
have had to go through the process.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
We're going to talk about that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Well, thanks Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Good morning, and I appreciate you giving me the heads
up on this with the text the other day. We
have a problem here with Hamilin County Clerk Court Pavon Peri.
He decided unilaterally that he was going to pull certain
records from the online access I suppose specifically records relating
to eviction cases that were older than three years, but

(01:58:33):
he didn't remove them. He would still be able to
go to the Clerk's office in person to see these records.
If I got that correctly, the setup for this litigation
that ensued.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Yeah, so this was middle of twenty twenty two and
he took I mean, this is tens of thousands of
records that he just took off his website without any
notice or authorization from the court. We actually learned of
it from a Cincinnati Enquirer article. And if you looked

(01:59:07):
at the website when you did this, you would have
no idea that these records were missing, that they that
they ever existed, and so, you know, this was a
big concern for the judges we learned of it. First
of all, you know, open records and public access to
court records is a it's in Ohio's constitution.

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
It's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
It's a big responsibility of the court. And second, this
obviously had a tremendous potential to mislead the public. Anybody
who looked at that website would have no idea that
these records weren't there, and so it was obviously misleading
and our first response, of course, our reaction was to

(01:59:56):
reach out to him to voice these concerns, to try
to rectify the situation in a kind of you know,
a reasonable manner. You know, look, this is a problem,
we think it should be fixed. Here are our concerns.
And you know, that went on for quite a while

(02:00:18):
where we tried to resolve this this situation in a
in a agreeable manner, and.

Speaker 5 (02:00:26):
It just it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
It was very clear that he was pretty dug.

Speaker 10 (02:00:30):
In on it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
He viewed his office as having this authority to unilaterally
determine what records should be available to the public online
and what records shouldn't. And ultimately, in twenty twenty three,
our court fourteen judges agreed and we ordered him to

(02:00:54):
rescind this policy, to restore these records to public access,
and he acknowledged receiving this order. He said he was
going to confer with his staff or counsel or something
like that, and he never complied. And so in January
twenty twenty four, I became this position of administrative judge,

(02:01:18):
and I felt like this was going in a bad direction.
It was going to get expensive. You know, none of
the judges were picking a fight. We did not. We
were not looking to kind of have a public display
of this conflict. And so I reached out to him

(02:01:38):
personally and tried to set up a meeting, thinking there's
you know, we've got to find a way to resolve
this thing. And he refused to meet with me. He
demanded that, or I should say, he wouldn't meet with
me unless counsel was present, unless he had an attorney
present on his behalf. And ordinarily the Hamilton County Prosecutor

(02:02:03):
would represent the Clerk of Courts in litigation like this
or in a civil dispute, right and ordinarily the Hamilton
County Prosecutor would represent the court in a civil dispute.
And so obviously the County prosecutor could not represent both parties,
and so they couldn't represent either party. So what that
meant was that private council, a taxpayer expense, had to

(02:02:28):
be appointed to represent the clerk, and then they had
to appoint private council to represent the court. And so
that's what happened, and ultimately, you know, he never met
with me. We never it never happened, and he never complied,
and so we sent him a letter, this was March

(02:02:49):
of twenty twenty four, and said, look, you haven't complied
with this valid court order. You've got ten days to
restore these records. Or you need to be able to
show calluse why you shouldn't be held in contempt of court.
Rather than comply with that, he filed this lawsuit, and
he sued the judges of the municipal court, and earlier

(02:03:12):
this week, the Higher Supreme Court unanimously ruled in our
favor that he completely overreached. He had no such authority
to unilaterally determine to remove these records from his website,
and that we were that we were correct.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
Like I guess, the whole idea, the going back to
him insisting that council be president. You asked to sit
down and meet with him. You didn't really need lawyers
there to have a civil discourse over the propriety of
his actions and removing these records, did you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:51):
I certainly didn't think so. He's an attorney, you know,
Clerk of course of court don't necessarily need to be attorneys,
but he is. And I really felt like he and
I could have a discussion and that we could reach
some some resolution to this situation that did not involve
litigation in court.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Right like, for example, pulling out a copy of Ohio's
Constitution which says these court records must be open to
the public.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
That's right. I mean people, you know, open courts are
part of Ohio's constitution from its founding, and that's also included,
you know, not just and the Supreme Court noted this.
The Court of Appeals that first ruled on this decision
noted the same thing that you know, open courts doesn't
just mean that people have a right to come to court.

(02:04:41):
Of course they do. But you know, there's twelve million
people or so in Ohio and lord knows how many
one hundred thousand million cases in courts throughout Ohio. So
open courts doesn't just mean that you can come to court.
It means that you have access to court records and
in the most accessible manner reasonably possible. And for the

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last thirty or forty years in this community, clerks of
Court have touted their website that is easy, it's accessible
that the public can use to see what happens in court.
I mean, it's records are really really important. And that's
how you know, that's how the public can keep tabs

(02:05:26):
on their government. That's how you can determine what's going
on in your community. That's how you can determine whether
you're elected officials are effective, whether they're efficient, whether they're
trustworthy stewards of tax money, and so, you know, records
are really important. And on the same hand, or on

(02:05:46):
the other hand, records aren't easy target. They're a favorite
target of politicians in my opinion, who can use data
and if you let them, they can manipulate records to
advance just about and if any policy or agenda that
they'd like.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
Well, and that's what he was trying to do in
this particular case because apparently, according to the appellate court
pleatings from the clerk accords, he did this to prevent
certain members and this is in quote certain members of
the public being primarily employers and landlords from potentially relying
upon court documents and considering fulfilling employment, housing, and other
potential opportunities to individuals.

Speaker 4 (02:06:27):
I mean, that's done all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
It's like an actuarial analysis of your driving record and
whether what your insurance premium should be rated at are
you a good risk in terms of renting properties or employment.
I mean, that's vital and critical information for the public
to have. And the other layer on that is just
because he removed them from the website didn't mean they
weren't still available to all these different entities to go

(02:06:49):
down and in person request them from the clerk. The
problem is, as you pointed out, he didn't let anybody
else know out there in the world who went to
do a search that the records were not online yet
they were still available for dates older than three years.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
That's right, And there was a lot of kind of
moving goalposts there as to what he was trying to accomplish.
At times it was, you know, I'm trying to help
people who have prior evictions. They shouldn't be they shouldn't
face difficulties because they had an eviction older than three years.

(02:07:26):
And then in court that kind of evolved to this
argument that, well, these records lead to misidentification, and he
argued in the Court of Appeals that you know that
names on court records could lead the misidentification and the
denial of housing and or employment based on race or religion.

(02:07:51):
And one of the things that the Court of Appeals
noted and we argued, was that he never presented any
evidence whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (02:07:59):
To court any of this.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
In fact, he never support he never presented an aggrieved
party a litigant that asked for this remedy, nothing of
the sort. This was all, you know, his policy, his
belief that this was happening, and you know, really sadly,
he seems to maintain this to this day, that he

(02:08:24):
was in the right and that he was justified in doing.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
This in the face of a unanimous Supreme Court in
the state of Ohio that is of mixed political philosophy
as in backgrounds. That's right, well, it's an amazing display
of arrogance, judge, it really is.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
One of the saddest aspects of it is of course,
the taxpayers on the hook for the whole thing, and
so far legal fees in this between this, in this
case amount to more than eighty thousand dollars, and I think,
you know that's that's a big deal, and it's disappointing.

(02:09:10):
You know. Even in the statement that he that he
that his office provided just the other day, again he
maintains that he continues to double down, that he can
decide that a certain aspect of the system is broken
and therefore he can take this action as clerk of
courts to manipulate records or to conceal records from the public,

(02:09:34):
and what he ought to be doing right now in
my opinion, is paying the taxpayer back. Pay the taxpayer
back through the right thing. The taxpayer should not be
on the hook for what is essentially this was a
political stunt, and at great taxpayer expense. I mean, that's
that's somebody's salary, that's that's a significant amount of money.

(02:09:58):
And it's just disappointing that still there's no recognition that
this was an error. It continues to double down, continues
to kind of pretend that he was in the right,
and it's very unfortunate that is.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
And as the Court of Appeals, I guess said, clerks,
only the courts, not the clerks, have the authority way
if when individual right to privacy outweighs the strong presumption
of public access to court records. Now, there have been
instances when the courts have denied public access online to
certain public records. I think, like for example, divorce cases.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
Absolutely, there are many instances where courts are making that
determination whether records should be sealed, whether they should be
removed from online access. But as the Supreme Court noted
and the Court of Appeals, that's a judicial determination and
it's got to be based on evidence. It's got to

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be based on the record, and you know that happens
in a variety of circumstances. Child victims, for example, juvenile
course proceedings are often sealed from online access or in
other form. So it's a judicial process that happens all
the time. But it's got to be based on evidence.

(02:11:23):
It's got to be based on this judicial determination, and
that's just one of our responsibilities as judges throughout Ohio.
And he just asserted this authority for himself as a
clerk of courts, and no, nothing supported it whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (02:11:41):
Well, now to the extent he comes up with an
actual jujudicial controversy, a specific case where someone who was
misidentified by virtue of online access to the records or
someone who claims individual harm that these records are available.
Could this be re reviewed at a subsequent time to
have a full determination along the lines what we're talking about, like,

(02:12:04):
for example, the juvenile record should not be disclosed to
the public for privacy reasons or whatever. So is this
the end of it in terms of a discussion about
the availability of these records or is this just put
a nail on the coffin We're just not going down
that road.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
Well, I think this puts an end to his assertion
of this authority, clearly. But people have the right to
request the stealing of records in a particular case, and
that happens all the time, including in eviction cases. People
can apply to have information removed from the website or

(02:12:39):
case records removed from the website, and our municipal court
holds these hearings all the time and they are frequently granted.
This is not this was all a solution in search.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
Of a problem.

Speaker 4 (02:12:52):
Is the reality.

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
We have those hearings all the time. Oftentimes such motions
are granted without any objection, but there's got to be
noticed to the parties. There's got to be a hearing,
there's got to be evidence. And what he did was
just a blanket removal of thousands of cases worth of records.

(02:13:14):
And again, the bigger or a big part of the
problem was anybody looking at that website for professional reasons
or otherwise would have no idea if these records weren't there.
So when he claimed, well, all you have to do
is come down to the courthouse and look for them,
how would you know that they were even there to
look for yees?

Speaker 2 (02:13:35):
It sets the process back to the old days when
that was the only way to search records, and certainly
we don't live in those times anymore, and for a
lot of reasons. Thankfully so, Judge Josh Berkowitz, a real
pleasure having you on. Congratulations on the victory, even though
it came at the expense of the Hamilton County taxpayers.
A fight worth fighting and at least we get to
talk about this demonstrable arrogance on the part of the

(02:13:55):
Clerk of Courts. Thank you, sir for your time today
and spending time with my listeners and me I'm talking
about this extremely important issue. Judge Burkerwooz.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
Thanks Brian, I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
It, my pleasure. Eight twenty two. Don't go away. We're
gonna hear from the Sincinny Printing Type Museum. They got
an event coming up this week. It's a cool place
and the history of Cincinnati and connection with printing is
just it's amazing. And again, props for my wife. I'm
sorry my mom for seeing the Sinccena print Musum and
tell me all about it. The return of Gary Walton
coming up next.

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A twenty nine to fifty five kr SE the talk
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have you back on the Morning Show. Glad to be here.

Speaker 4 (02:15:49):
I would also thank my mom.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
Who did a tour of the Sincine Print Museum and
was the one that alerted to me of its existence
and maybe something that I should already have known about,
because as you played last time, you're on and you
can remind my listeners about the history and how close
Cincinnati is in the history of Cincinnati and it's connection
with the print industry generally speaking.

Speaker 13 (02:16:11):
Yeah, we are truly the sleeping Giant. There are over
three hundred printers in Cincinnati, and I know that for
a fact because I have them on my mailing list
and I send them our newsletter every year. And we
are the twelfth largest printing center in the United States,
which is huge when you realize there are two one
hundred and thirty metropolitan areas in the United States and

(02:16:32):
we're number twelve. So there's fifty cities that are bigger
than we are, and we do more print, so Our
model here is life revolves around print, and it truly
does in Cincinnati, and you.

Speaker 2 (02:16:43):
Can tour the museum and we'll get some details on that.
But also it's an education opportunity and a career opportunity
to get in the print industry.

Speaker 13 (02:16:53):
Yes, so Tuesday the twenty fourth, and Wednesday the twenty fifth,
and Saturday twenty eighth of this month, we are conducting
a celebration of Gutenberg six hundred and twenty fifth birthday.
It's totally free. It's an open house from ten am
to three pm and people can come and actually print

(02:17:14):
on our Gutenberg Press a copy of Genesis chapter one
in Latin, and then you go in the back room
and you print it again in English. So you leave
with a Latin copy and an English copy of the
exact image that Gutenberg actually created. And then while you're here,
we're gonna talk about crew opportunities in print and about
actually placing. If you want a job in print, we

(02:17:34):
can help you set up and get that. But also
we're doing a lot of training lately, especially with adults
with disability. That's our new focus right now, which we're
just having a blast with. And so when you come
you'll actually get to meet a fad who has autism,
and he will do a lot of the demonstrating on
the presses for you, and you'll see how we're able

(02:17:55):
to help this community find employment. And ninety five percent
also disability or unemployed, and our goal is to change that,
especially here in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
Oh that's fantastic. I had no idea you worked with
folks struggling with disabilities. So I have a friend his
son is a Ausburger's syndrome and the kid is, in
spite of his autism, is really quite frankly, a brilliant,
brilliant young man. Yes, and he is employed full time.
And obviously there are opportunities. And the print is, as

(02:18:28):
you mentioned, the Gutenberg press that has got to be
So you're actually if I go there and one of
my listeners goes there, they're actually going to operate that
Gutenberg press themselves in printing the copy of the page
of this Bible.

Speaker 13 (02:18:39):
Yes, I'm gonna, I am, my staff will system, but
people actually ink it up, they'll pull the lever. Yeah,
they'll actually do it themselves.

Speaker 4 (02:18:48):
Oh that's neat. And how old is is the Gutenberg
press that you have.

Speaker 13 (02:18:53):
So so the original one is something like six years old,
and that doesn't exist anymore. Ours was actually built in
nineteen seventy one by a gentleman who was contracted by
the Smithsonian to build one for them, and he had
so much fun putting it together he built two more.
So I have one now and then the Museum in

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Los Angeles as the second. Although he built three of them,
and they're in the Smithsonian Los Angeles and now in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:19:22):
So it's a rare thing to even see one in person,
let alone operate it.

Speaker 13 (02:19:28):
We believe there's only in our research, there's only ten
Gutenberg presses in the United States. So yes, this is
definitely something to see, and we're becoming nationally known, an
international not exaggerating. Yesterday a gentleman from Spain was here
because you heard we had a press, and he got
to print on the Gutenberg Press.

Speaker 1 (02:19:48):
And we've got people from all over.

Speaker 13 (02:19:50):
The country coming. Google is doing a fantastic job of
advertising for us. When you put in letter press printing,
we pop up on them as one of the first
places to go, and.

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
We broke broke a record. Last year. Over a thousand, three.

Speaker 13 (02:20:02):
Hundred people came to the museum, and a hundred of
those were from other parts of the country, and I
think this year will probably double that.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
Oh that's wonderful putting you on the map and keeping
you in growing your presence, and putting Cincinnati on the
map too. As far as the printing industry goes now,
I think when I think of the of press, honestly,
when we've talked, or before we talked last time, and
before I became aware of modern press and what that means,
you know, I had in mind. You know, the the

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the the newspaper presses, and you know how those run.
You've seen them in movies a million times. And also
Gutenberg Press and the type setters who put the little
letters together in order to create the plate for the press.
And that's all old school. When you were on last time,
you talked about some of the modern printing that's going on.
Give my listeners a little bit of insight and reminder

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about what that involves.

Speaker 13 (02:20:53):
So when you speak of printing, there are six different
ways to put or tona powder onto paper, plastic, metal,
or wood. So printing is not just paper anymore. It's everything.
So when you look at your Mac computer, there is
printing on your Mac computer. When you look at your watch,
there's printing on your watch. When you go in the kitchen,
your microwave, that whole panel was printed on a traditional press.

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So the industry is drastically changing, drastic growing. When I
started in the seventies, I'll never forget, it was a
gifts and greeting cards and we're running a press printing
a fifty sheet of paper, fifty greeting cards on that paper,
and we were going three five hundred copies an hour,
which was fast.

Speaker 1 (02:21:34):
Today, I'll take you to that.

Speaker 13 (02:21:36):
A similar plant and same press now printing ten colors
and running something ridiculous of twenty thousand copies or sheets
of paper an hour. So the speed is just incredible.
We are using artificial intelligence, so we actually have the
machine actually has cameras that are looking at the color
making adjustments that they need it. And so this is
really helping us be extremely productive in producing quality props.

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And one of my goals is I want Cincinnati to
be a leader in this new technology called printing electronics.
We're actually printing circuit boards and antennas and all kinds
of electronic devices because in the next ten years, every
lectronic device was starting to pressure room because of the
cost savings, huge cost savings.

Speaker 2 (02:22:16):
And that's honestly, that is one of the more fascinating
elements about it. This is an evolving thing because again
preconceived notions about what you know printing involves. You think, well,
this is an industry that's going to go the way
of the Dodo, But no, it just keeps getting bigger
and the opportunities for printing, like those circuit boards, just

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keep getting bigger as well. So this is a career
opportunity and you might want to check it out again
June twenty fourth, and funny twenty fifth, and the twenty
eighth as well.

Speaker 4 (02:22:49):
Yes, okay, Saturday, ten am to three pm.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
What's the address of the since A Type in Print Museum,
Because it's not just these events. You can go and
visit at the times, and I'd like you to also
provide the website. We'll have all this hooked up on
my blog page fifty five Casey dot com.

Speaker 13 (02:23:07):
Yeah, we're located at twenty three seven West A Street.
There is a gravel parking lot on the right side,
but also you can park on the street. We are
open to the public at anytime.

Speaker 4 (02:23:17):
We are free.

Speaker 13 (02:23:18):
When I started this museum nine years ago, I decided
it was going to be free so that anybody of
any level financially could come and not have.

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
To worry about paying for a fee.

Speaker 13 (02:23:28):
Also, but I got to honest with you, it's a
carrot to get you in, to convince you to go
into print and make you ambassadors or our model, which
is that your life revolves around print. You know, as
you start looking at everything that's around you, most of
you have for micro countertops, that's a pressure that we
print it. You're putting this new flooring material into your kitchen,
those are pressures that we print it and then laminate

(02:23:49):
it to board. When you go into a typical Walmart
or k marketplace, throw over three one hundred and fifty
thousand packages that all has to be reproduced every thirty
days because we consume those packages. So printing is just huge,
and most people are totally ignorant that. And as like
I say, we are the sleeping giant, and then he
also I criticize ourselves. We are the reason why people

(02:24:12):
don't know. And the museum is going to change that.
It's definitely here in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:24:16):
Well, you know what, Gary that's why I loved having
you on the program last time, and why I'm glad
you're back today because it is fascinating. It's much bigger
than we ever knew about, and of course, being one
of the capitals of printing in the world, and considering
the size of the industry, career opportunities abound. Gary Walton
from the Cincinnati Type and Print Museum, appreciate your time

(02:24:37):
and what you do each and every day. If my
listeners are interested, to check out the information of the
blog page fifty five carecy dot com and make sure
you stop in and take a visit.

Speaker 4 (02:24:45):
You certainly impress my mom.

Speaker 13 (02:24:49):
That's always why to impress them with mother always why well.

Speaker 4 (02:24:52):
Word of mouth.

Speaker 2 (02:24:53):
That's the way of getting things around, especially when she
has a son who has access to well a listening audience. Gary,
I'm happy to help you spread the Keep up the
great work, my friend. I'm sure we'll have you back
on the morning show down the road.

Speaker 7 (02:25:05):
Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 2 (02:25:06):
Have a great Friday.

Speaker 4 (02:25:07):
Thanks you too.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
It's a thirty nine and fifty five krs the talk
station k nook Away coming up. Richard Simon's got a
book unplug Going back to kind of making me think
about Dave Hatter this morning. He's got some good ideas
and a book that will be available at fifty five
krs dot com.

Speaker 8 (02:25:22):
Right back fifty five KRC Steve Perrins coordinated.

Speaker 4 (02:25:26):
Hi's Brian Thomas.

Speaker 2 (02:25:26):
I'd like to welcome to the fifty five Carrasy Morning
Show author Richard Simon. He directs the website strategy at
Georgetown Law and Washington, d C. As a former reporter
and webmaster at Baltimore's The Daily Record that he is
now an author Unplug How to Break up with your
Phone and reclaim your life. Conceptually, it sounds great, Richard,
Welcome to the Morning Show. It sounds though very difficult

(02:25:49):
in practice these days. Let's talk about what you did
and of what I actually start by asking you what
drew you to want to write this particular book.

Speaker 12 (02:25:59):
Yes, so the journey definitely starts with me as a
thirty three year old father of two at the time
in twenty nineteen, my smartphone was putting a strain on
pretty much all facets of life, from professional to personal,
and I knew I had to do something about it.
So I decided to turn off my phone for an
entire year, and it was one of the most transformative
periods of my life. And what I realized is that

(02:26:21):
pretty much all the self help articles out there and
books suggest hacks. And although hacks are noble, like deleting
social media apps, turning your phone to gray scale digital sabbaths,
all those things are nice, but for something as addictive
as a phone as a phone, it doesn't go far enough.
So I ended up seeking out dozens of people who
had gone through similar phone breakups, and believe it or not,

(02:26:42):
I'm so glad Phone released it. I can be on
a Cincinnati show because my book opens up with Nick
Costianos when he was a Cincinnati read so I profile
and interview him for the introduction because he turned off
his smartphone, and just like me, it was incredibly transformative
for him.

Speaker 2 (02:26:58):
Well, some people just stare constantly at their phones. And
one of the things I do with a segment each
week on the program Tech Friday with Dave Hatter, he
and I are anti app. We don't do apps. All
they are is data harvesters. YadA, YadA, YadA. I was
able to live my entire life up till the time
smartphones existed. I'm coming up on sixty years old. I
never had an app, didn't need them, and I don't

(02:27:19):
need them now. That's kind of my view and my
take on it. But insofar as to having this smart phone,
this is how we all generally communicate. So the idea
of dealing without this, I don't even have a landline anymore.
So what about people that it still needs to make
a phone calls? I mean cutting it off completely seems
literally impossible.

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
Yeah, definitely is not.

Speaker 12 (02:27:41):
I go through four different breakup styles in the book,
and one of the things I realized for my dozens
of interviews is that something like this is for everyone.
I profile one call anesthesiologists at Johns Hopkins Hospital, one
of the top research hospitals in the country, a law partner,
a social media person, a software engineer, a school principle,
all people who turn off their phones. Now, the one

(02:28:02):
I think that will have four different breakup styles in
the book, and the one that I think that will
resonate most for your listeners is switching from a smartphone.

Speaker 4 (02:28:10):
To a basic phone.

Speaker 12 (02:28:12):
And when you switch to a basic phone, it touches
on that piece you're talking about where you can still
make calls and text, but essentially with the most basic
of basic phones.

Speaker 4 (02:28:21):
That's it.

Speaker 12 (02:28:22):
And one of the biggest problems for people is the
time suck with a smartphone. The average American spends more
than five hours a day on a smartphone. It's time
you simply don't get back. And with a basic phone,
it's so terrible to use that you won't want to
use it that much. So all of a sudden you
regain time.

Speaker 2 (02:28:37):
Perfect idea. And see, that's basically what my smartphone is.
It is an intentionally dumb phone because I don't use
any of the apps on it. Now, how about you
have an off by default recommendation as well, And this
is something that I embrace. Every night, go to bed,
my phone is off, and that's the way again, I
live my life that way. Growing up, you know, you

(02:28:59):
didn't have phone calls in the middle of the night,
you didn't take them.

Speaker 4 (02:29:01):
If you did.

Speaker 2 (02:29:02):
My dad was got up early like I did, so
he would insist the phones will be off, so I
can handle that. If there's a phone message on, I'll
listen to on a wake up in the morning.

Speaker 12 (02:29:10):
Brian, that is that is fantastic. Yeah, So the off
by default approach I recommend sixty days, that at least
sixty days of having your smartphone off to recalibrate the
reward pathways in your brain. And with the off by
default approach, for those sixty days, you would have your
smartphone off and only turn it on to complete a
critical task. Then after you finish those sixty days, you

(02:29:31):
can alter the definition of off by default too. You
only turn your smartphone on if you want to enhance
your life. That way, you have control of your smartphone
rather than it being control of you.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
What about relationships? I understand the toughest sell and you're
going down this path of off by default or not
or going cell phone free?

Speaker 4 (02:29:50):
Was your wife?

Speaker 12 (02:29:52):
That's correct. My wife is a pediatrician. Like any good pediatrician,
she thought through all the various scenarios of what could
go what could go wrong, and we realized that if
I do this, we're really have to set expectations, especially
with kids in terms of coordinating. But one of the
things we realized right away was that on an average day,

(02:30:13):
we would be texting throughout the day, so by the
time we got home and had dinner together as a family,
we knew what was going on, like there was nothing
to catch up one because we were texting throughout the day.
All of a sudden, a smartphone is removed from our
environment and there's no texting throughout the day. So when
we get back home together, we actually enjoy catching up
with each other because there's stuff to catch up.

Speaker 2 (02:30:32):
One that's awesome. I understand you got a run, Richard Simon.
It's been great talking to me this morning. Unplug How
to break up with your phone and reclaim your life.
It's on my blog page. People can easily get a
copy of it. It's a great spending time with you today, Richard,
Thanks for writing the book. Always putting a smile on

(02:30:52):
my face. Joey Remote, not one hundred percent of the time,

(02:31:14):
but there are places you can look to call it
a wonderful world. It's always a wonderful world. Having a
tech Friday's day, have had or on. Although the information
this morning really quite alarming for those just tuning in
or didn't get a chance to hear Dave. Of the
three stories we talked about, two of them dealt with
records exposed on the darknetweb and included among those alarm

(02:31:36):
bells ringing sixteen billion with a B passwords out there,
and we're talking about Apple, Google, and Facebook. So just
because you use Apple, Google, and or Facebook, it doesn't
mean your passwords is necessarily out in the dark net
for sale, but it might be. So some really good,

(02:31:58):
strong recommendations for how you can meet this challenge and
avoid the problems down the road, password managers and two
factor authentication among them. We're going to be delving into that,
probably more down the road, because there were other opportunities
to well prevent you from getting hacked or someone getting
into your, say, bank account and stealing all your money

(02:32:18):
from you red flag. So always an interesting segment with him.
Congressman Brad Winster was in the studio for a full
hour seven o'clock hour, and we of course did talk
around Iran in Iraq, we talked about Cash Patel and
all the documents that he's releasing and uncovering and revealing
a very corrupt behind the scenes system that's going on

(02:32:39):
out there, and that's got legs and you and I.
Fortunately we'll get to no more given the Cash hotels
shining the light on and providing documents that have been
requested now for years and years. Judge Josh Burkewitz big
Win in the Supreme Court one hundred percent unanimous verdict
that the Hamilton County Clerk courts Hemilon Kunty Clerk or

(02:33:02):
Corgeous is apparently mad and power hungry. He removed records
that he had no authority to remove for his own
politically motivated reasons and then stood in the way when
he was told outright by the fourteen municipal court judges, dude,
you can't do this, forcing us to go through litigation
and for the Hamilton County taxpayers to ultimately be on
the hook for the litigation costs on that coming in

(02:33:23):
around eighty thousand dollars. Crazy sincey type in print museums
Gary Walton, plus the information on the open house. Another
story out of over the Rhine. It's a sad one.
Joe brought this one my attention a few minutes ago
and it's worthy read. No, there's no crime in over
the Rhyne. We got another teenager dead. There's a shooting
that happened overnight. Units of the Cincee Police Department, thirteen

(02:33:45):
hundred block of Iron Street for report of his shooting
at an apartment. Victim taken a nearby hospital where he died.
Sixteen year old boy. Currently mystery about what led up
to the shooting. Suspects fled the scene. Don't have anymation
about the suspect yet. The investigation, of course, is ongoing.
Poor young teenager sixteen years old shot in the chest. Yes, Joe,

(02:34:10):
you're right, summer is just starting. Oh and by the way,
the temperature is going to feel like one hundred on Sunday.
Settle down, folks. Anyhow, I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Props and a sincere thanks to Joe Strecker for being
the executive producer of the fifty five Cassy Morning Show.
Without Joe, the show just would not go fifty five

(02:34:31):
Cassy dot Com give you silf a copy of Unplugged
wire at and how to Break up with your Phone
and Reclaim your life. Probably a tough thing to do,
but obviously, uh my guest Richard Simon was able to
do it, and he's pretty damn happy about it. Folks.
Great weekend to you, have fun, be careful, stay cool,
and don't go weggmun Beck's coming up next from a

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