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July 14, 2025 • 135 mins
Brian Thomas talks with former Vice Mayor of Cincinnati Christopher Smitherman for his weekly Smithervent, Money Monday with Allworth's Brian James and Ohio State Representative Tex Fischer talks about recreational marijuana in Ohio.
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A vacation. Yes, indeed, happy Monday. As I just said,
Bryan Thomas right here, glad to be and uh sorry,
Joe Rucker's not in. Today's taking a day off mental
health day or something along those lines. But we're in
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good to see if Sean always do a great job.
And I appreciate you covering for Joseph and getting out

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this morning on the fifty five Cascene Morning Show, of course,
it's Monday seven to twenty. Every Monday, we hear from
former Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smith.

(01:19):
Aman and what we call the smither vent plenty of
shootings to talk about. Not sure if that's the direction
we're going to go. Stuck on crime of late, we
have been with Christopher Smithman, but it's a big problem
in downtown Cincinnati, as you full well know, at least
I'm sure you know. Money money with Brian James every
Monday at eight oh five get the low down from
all Worth Financials. Brian James going to do that today

(01:40):
again eight oh five for that. And finally tex Fisher
State Representative here in the state of Ohio, one of
a couple of Republicans sort of going after the Republican
efforts in Columbus to pair back issue too, which is
the yes vote. Fifty seven percent of a Highlands voted
yes to legalize recreation marijuana in the state of Ohio.

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But since then a lot of folks in the Republican
Party have been trying to change the law, which some
are in favor of in others are not. And more
and more information comes out each and every day about
the dangers of marijuana. And maybe it was a ready
fire aim thing in so far as embracing medical marijuana.
Of course, the push for legalized marijuana. You draw your
own conclusions, and nobody's making anyone smoke it. I mean,

(02:24):
you aren't being drug into a dispensary and forced to
buy something and then being forced home to indulge in it.
And I appreciate the practical ramifications of its sort of
being normalized. You normalize something, and more and more people
are going to try it. So a statistic out of California,
they are they twenty percent of adults in California smoke weed,
up substantially from the pre legalization days. But it's been

(02:46):
legal in California for a long time, and many sociologists
and medical experts and others are now stepping up saying, hey,
this is a real big problem psychosis and you know
other vitro kind of things. It impacts your babies development,
and listen, it's worth looking into before we start firing

(03:07):
it out. Take a look at it. But in so
far as legalut in the state of Ohio, at least,
tex Fisher is trying to protect it and not put
any further limitations on the use in Ohio, thumbing our
nose in the face of the voters. I think that
should be a non starter for a lot of people
quoted as saying, I have Capital Journal reporting on that. Also,

(03:27):
along with State Representative Jamie Calendar, a Republican from Concord,
they've joined forces to prevent the Senates proposed changes to
issue too. They've been trying to compromise on multiple different
bills that are flowing around up there. Senates proposal decreases

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THC content, reduces the home growing from twelve plants to
six plants. There's still a ton of weed, imposes more
criminal penalties, and takes away tax money from local municipalities
that have dispensaries. The House latest version had none of
those provisions. So anyway, texts he'll join the programm at

(04:09):
forty to give us his perspective on marijuana in the
state of Ohio. So there as your rundown this morning.
See what else is going on? Moving away here? I'm puzzled.
I know there's this big brew haha. FBI Director Cash

(04:29):
Mattel and Pambondi, among others, and deputy FBI Deputy Director
Dan Bongino all sort of Bongino clashing with Attorney General
Pambondi over her conclusion that there's nothing to see there
ins far as the Epstein files are concerned. Now we
all know time after time after time, many of these
people who are now saying the Epstein files don't show

(04:50):
anything except downloads from Epstein of a pornographic material that
constitutes well, child porn. Therefore, we're not going to see it,
nor should any nobody ever want to see it. But
is there anything else in there? After years of being
told that there's something there, there is there there and
all the conspiracy theories floating around that he actually killed
himself or didn't kill himself as the case. Maybe we

(05:12):
got the videotape release. Now it's got that little glitch
at midnight, and that's been explained away by the FBI.
But some people don't buy that. They say it's been
altered or edited. Every time I read a story about that,
I think about, well, these are modern times. No one
is going to believe anything they see, especially something that
has been so prominent in terms of well an issue.
People talk about what did this guy do? Who did

(05:34):
he have the goods on? Why did so many noted
notables and wealthy millionaires and political elite hang out with
this guy? How did he end up getting elevated to
this lofty position that he came to apparently started out
as a math teacher with no college degree. So and
there's conspiracy now if the CIA had something to do
with it, or maybe the Israeli Mosad, they were using

(05:55):
him to get information all these powerful people, I guess
for blackmail purposes. I mean, that's just it goes on
and on and on, and while the Trump administration is
trying to back away from this, and Donald Trump's getting
angry or and angry in his outlawed statements about people
continuing continuing to ask questions about the nature of this

(06:18):
non disclosure and whether or not something is being hidden. Now,
retired Lieutenant General Mike flem Trump's National security advisor or
in the first administration, had this to say, at real,
Donald Trump, please understand the Epstein affair is not going away.
The administration doesn't address this massive number of unanswered questions

(06:40):
about Epstein, especially the abuse of children by elites. It
is very clear that abuse occurred, then moving forward on
so many other monumental challenges our nation is facing becomes
much harder. I think that's a fairly accurate assessment of things.
And if abuse actually has occurred, and he's very prominent
in his conclusion quote, it is very clear that abuse

(07:02):
occurred that should be prosecuted. Of course, I have embraced
the idea of going after pedophiles. But anyway, over the weekend,
what Trump took to social media truth social media, of course,
endorsing Bondi, and of course the position that there's nothing

(07:22):
to see there. He killed himself and there is no
clientless of fundamentally boiled down what her announcement said from
a week or so ago, he writes, what's going on
with my boys? In some cases gals, they're all going
after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who's doing a fantastic job.
We're on one team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening.
He also previously for Epstein, the guy who never dies.

(07:44):
For years, it's Epstein, over and over again. He lamented
that the other day, Trump question why people were giving
publicity to file And here's where I'm really puzzled, folks,
and kind of looking for your sort of thoughts on this.
Trump questioned why people or in his words quote giving
publicity to files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, call me

(08:07):
Brennan and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration,
further stating, and I'll quote, they created the Epstein files,
just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton Christopher Steele
dossier that they used on me. And now my so
called friends are playing right into their hands. Why didn't
these radical left lunatics release the Epstein files? If there

(08:30):
was anything in there that could have hurt the mag
of movement, why didn't they use it? Well, okay, that's
a legitimate question. Maybe they couldn't use it because they're
implicated in the Epstein files. But the idea that he
is now saying that the Democrats created them, I mean,
Epstein's been a law enforcement radar since he was convicted

(08:53):
of pedophilia back in two thousand and eight, procuring underage
girls for prostitution. And of course we all know about
Pedophile Island, we all know about what happened since then.
We all know about just Laine Maxwell and what she
was doing. She's been convicted. So I don't know that
this is some you know, whole cloth Democrat creation like

(09:15):
the Steele dossier. But if they created the Epstein files
in an effort to somehow harm Donald Trump, why didn't
they release the Epstein files? It seems like he's trying
to talk out of both sides of his mouth on
this one. They created them for the purpose of dividing us,
and here we are, you know, taking the bait and

(09:35):
stirring the pod of conspiracy theories you're making all you,
my conservative maggot loving friends, are all making arguments that
this stuff should be further released. And there's more there
than meets the eye. You're playing right into the Democrats hands.
I don't understand how you reconcile that, because I think
it's pretty easy to conclude if there was something that

(09:57):
was really devastating to Donald Trump in the eb Stein
files and whatever is among those documents. Biden was just
recently president, he was in charge of him, He had
the files on his decks metaphorically, was his Justice Department
in his FBI that had the information now in the
hands of Pam Bondy. Don't you think it would have
been leaked? Yeah, And you know the conclusion by Bondi

(10:26):
is it was just downloaded porn. There is no client list,
and the video evidence confirms that Epstein killed himself because
nobody else was around. There's no mention in there of
these being whole cloth creations by the Democrats or anybody else.
Bondi did not conclude that the files were made up.

(10:47):
There was nothing in her announcement that said anything of
the of the sort. But that's what Trump is now saying,
and I just don't understand it. Let Pam Bondi do
her job. He wrote, She's great. Twenty twenty election was
rigged and stolen, and they tried to do the same
thing in twenty twenty four. That's what she's looking into,
is ag and much more. And of course a suggestion

(11:11):
that you know, don't focus on Epstein document's focus on
the other more important things like the stolen twenty twenty election.
So I think that Bondi can handle more than one
issue on her plate. I think she's got enough minions
working for her that she can handle more than one matter.
We all know that, that, of course is the case.
They got a lot on their plate in that role.

(11:33):
But anyway, this is all on the heels of so
many statements by the same folks that there was something there.
Cash Bettel back in twenty twenty three talking to Benny Johnson,
of course, before he came FBI director in a Trump
second administration, the Republicans at the time could easily obtain

(11:55):
the alleged client list with a subpoena, adding in another
interview that same year that Trump should quote roll out
the black book close quote containing Epstein's alleged client list
on day one. Then during his Senate confirmation hearing, he
said he would assist lawmakers in investigating Epstein's alleged web
of the world's elite involved in sex crimes. Quote. Child

(12:17):
sex trafficking has no place in the United States, he said,
and I will do everything, if confirmed as FBI director,
to make sure the American public knows the full weight
of what happened in the past and how we're going
to counterman missing children and exploited children going forward. Then,

(12:40):
over the weekend, in what appears to be a radical
change of heart, posted on x that the conspiracy theories
weren't and have never been true. To note that was
not clear whether he was referred to Epstein the records
as Donald Trump suggested that these were not true, that
these are all whole cloth made up by the Democrats,

(13:02):
or to the reports that he intended to step down
if Bongino did. Because there is that rumors swirling around
there as well, So we're left to kind of guess
on what Pattel meant over the weekend. But it seems
to me he's stepping in the same direction as Donald Trump.
There's nothing to see here, Ignore it, go away. You're
playing into their hands, and quite honestly, I don't see
how that is actually the case. Five eighteen Right now,

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with Brian James and let us see here. Libel and
slander per se? Can you say something about someone, and
especially when it comes to public figure's got a pretty
wide leeway out of the New York Time standard. Public
figures have access to rebut some pretty damaging statements, But

(14:07):
it isn't a complete blanket of immunity to those who
make the bad statement. Slander per se involves a false
statement pertaining to multiple categories. It's four specific categories, but
statements that allege a crime has been committed. You can't
go running around telling people that someone else has committed
a crime unless it's true. But it's considered bible or slander,

(14:32):
depending on whether it's written or stated per se. You
are presumed to have damaged that person's integrity and reputation
unless you, as the person making the statement, can prove
that you are right that the statement you made was true.
So pivoting over to a real life an illustration of
this New York Representative Alexandrio Casio Cortez AOC being accused

(14:54):
of defaming Trump. She called him a rapist. Wow quote
this is a quote quote Wow. Who would have thought
that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of
the Epstein files? This in an ex post on Friday. Well,

(15:14):
the problem for AOC is Trump was not found guilty
of rape. Was a civil trial filed against Trump by
writer E. Gen Carroll. The jury found Trump libel for
sexual assault, but not rape. Rape of course the crime,

(15:35):
and Trump has never been found guilty of rape. So
many are calling for the President to sue AOC and
in some of the wards at least one. Phil Holloway
legal analysts into bankruptcy. The president should sue AOC into bankruptcy.
I realize she's trying to raise her profile, but this
is way way too far, h Bill Mitchell, your always host.

(16:00):
We will have grounds for a huge defamation suit here,
you idiot, because Donald Trump has never been indicted for rape,
much less convicted one other account post. You realize your
ex account doesn't carry the same protections to the fame
people that you enjoyed during a congressional proceeding and current
congressional proceedings, So she may have a problem on her hands.

(16:25):
From the standpoint, I know there's been a lot of
litigation over news outlets, misreporting and outright line. Donald Trump's
been kind of successful of late in his actions against
those folks who would malign the president otherwise twist data
and information to benefit the left. We know what the
median narrative is, but when you're in per se categories,

(16:47):
there's not a whole lot left you need to prove.
Was Donald Trump ever indicted or convicted of rape? That
is an absolute no. She does not have the so
called truth to raise in defense of a suit. This
looks like a pretty much of a laydown, So keep
your popcorn out on that one. For those who are
not fans of AOC, and count me among those folks.

(17:08):
I think this could be rather interesting there, he goes,
don no doubt about it. Five one three seven fifty
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happy Monday. Five one three seven fifty five hundred eight
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Tom is on the line. Tom good to hear from
me this morning. Welcome to the work week.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Hey, good morning. Maybe AOC is not sure how to
handle it. Maybe Mike the line could put together a
work trip to figure it out for.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh yeah, like he used for the property taxes. Geez.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I got to over the weekend. I got to jump
on your iHeart podcasting and listen to some of your
some of your stuff from last week. I only get
I only get like a half hour, like right now
on my way to work, and then if I want
to listen anymore, I got to get on that podcast.
So that works out great. And I listened to you
and your your guests you had on the Friday, uh

(18:22):
talking about that he's a big the wine fan, isn't he?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
A Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I love it. I'm sure this is old news out
but I still love the still makes me chuckle when
he calls it the back in COVID it was the
two o'clock wine with the wine that was pretty funny. Yeah,
good stuff, but yeah, I mean, I thank god that
the wines winding down. He's gonna be gone here pretty
soon because that that dude is it. I mean, there's

(18:49):
there shouldn't be a R anywhere near his name. And
then and and that's that same something because there's a
lot of Republicans that are you know, we could call rhinos,
but that guy takes the cake.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I don't understand at all. How how uh? I mean,
I guess we didn't have a better The only other
choice was a Democrat, so we kind of had to
go with him. But thankfully we're moving past this stage
of of things in Ohio and we and you know,
we're looking forward to the zek and then hopefully that
works out as well as it seems to. But you know,

(19:21):
this whole property tax thing and and the other thing
with the library thing, I seemed like a no brain
or slammed. Du't didn't it? Why why would you veto that?
I hope these senators and representatives get back in there
after the summer breaking and fix all this garbage, because
that dude is just He's made about a bunch of

(19:41):
a mess as a Democrat would make. So but here regardless,
don't vote Democrat. Have a great Dame Brian.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thanks to appreciate it. Yeah, sometimes I want to. It's
almost as if you want to carl into Mike Dwine's
head just just sort of figure out what the hell
he's thinking. Yeah, I mean he's own attorney general told
to VT the six hundred million dollars going to the
Cleveland Browns. No, he didn't do that, but he vetoed
did the three position of the three provisions that might
have provided you and I some measure of property tax relief,

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which had been understudy for more than a year. They
had studied this behind the scenes. Our elected officials looked
into this, ge, how can we help out with the
property tax situation? After giving it much thought and going
over the pluses and minuses. That's how those three provisions
ended up in the budget and only to have to
Wine nix them. So they're gonna t those three up

(20:32):
and try to vote to override his veto. Meanwhile, as
Tom alluded to Governor to Wine now claims to be
trying to take a stab at fixing the property problems
in the state following the veto of those efforts to
reform property taxes. He said, these vetos that does not
lessen our obligation and does not lessen our obligation to

(20:53):
deal with this problem. Governor now appointing two former legislators,
Bill Sitz and Pat Tiberry to lead a new quote
property tax Reform Work Group close quote described as a
group to will deliver concrete proposals for meaningful tax relieved
by the end of September, like the three that were

(21:14):
in the budget bill. You know, something like that that
had already been vetted. Apparently, the second group set up
by state leaders to tackle this issue, Legislative Committee, already
produced an eight hundred and sixty five page report last
year with twenty one recommendations. Sadly, none of it made
it through the legislature. So Dwine's on the case now,

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though seventeen year old girl taken to the hospital after
a shooting or Curtain Clifton happened early yesterday morning. Courting
to Lieutenant Jonathan Cunningham of the Sin Saint Police, he
said that a gathering took place four am police notified
as shots being fired at Bellevue Park and Ohio Avenue.
Victim taking to Christ's Hospital taken the UC Medical Center
after that with non life threatening injuries. Police have not

(21:59):
stated if they have suspect got a juvenile dead after
a shooting yesterday happened at eleven thirty pm on SD
Avenue in Winton Hills. Cord to authorities, the juvenile died
at the hospital. Remains unclear police have a suspect since
I Police investigating two separate shootings in the city overnight.

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Noticing a trend here, officers responded around midnight to report
of at least one person shot in the seven hundred
block at Dutch Colony Drive in Winning Hills, one person
taking the UC Medical Center. Earlier in the days, they
responded another shooting west End at Lynn and Clark Streets
happened about ten pm on Sunday, no suspect information release,
no rest announced, and we have two people dead. This

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after an officer involved shooting in Middletown. Dan Hills Frontline
Advisors Dan Hills, former FOP President Dan Hill speaking with
Molly sham Over at WCPO. Hill Set officers respond and
Sunday afternoon to a home of the three thousand block
of Mohawk Street after they received reports of a woman
who had been shot inside the home. Officers arrived, unidentified

(23:08):
suspect fired a weapon at them. Officers attempted to negotiate
with a suspect. Suspect continued to threaten the officers with
his firearm, so the officers fired their weapons as well,
hitting the suspect. Thus suspect now dead from his injuries.
The woman who was shot inside the home pronounced dead
as well. Middletown Division of Police social media posts said
the victim and suspect where husband and wife. Hill said

(23:30):
no officers were injured in the shooting. Thankfully, ring camera
to a nearby home captured the sound of six gun
shots and the video. Multiple neighbors are gathered near Middletown
first responder vehicles. There's your shooting update for the weekend
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Speaker 6 (24:06):
Starting.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
West Virginia. Couple there arrested after police pulled over there
underscore stolen RV and found both the duo and the
driver's seat totally nude having drunken sex. According to authorities,
they pulled over Shannon Bryant thirty five and Matthew McDonald
forty eight while they were driving through Bluefield, West Virginia.

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Happened last Wednesday. Cops pulled over the vehicle. They noticed
that Brian was in the driver's seat, straddling McDonald. As
the RV drove down the road. Police approached the driver's
side window. McConnell was sitting innocently in the passenger seat
as if nothing had occurred, but Brian, who appeared to
be highly intoxicated words from the report, while sitting in

(24:49):
the driver's seat, had apparently no shame, candidly telling the
cops quote we were ffording close quote that according to
office or R L Ham, Duo quickly ordered out of
the vehicle Brian could delve. Before Brian could delve further
into the details of their escapade, McDonald McDonald reportly confessed

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after the two were read their rights and said that
they were naked and attempting to engage in sexual activity
while driving. After when the police pulled them over, the
pair scrambled into opposite seats. While the officers approached the
RV and police searched the RV, they found drug paraphernalia inside,
including a bag of white powder. Also recovered pain killers

(25:33):
of broken glass pipe that Brian admitted McDonald had tossed
out the window during the stop. Thank you Sean. A
vehicle check using the V number and registration also revealed
the RV turned love Shack had been stolen from Princeton,
a city ten miles away. Naked do a charge with

(25:54):
indecent exposure, drug possession, duy on possession of a stolen vehicle.
According to the records obtained by the Smoking Gun reporting
on this the couple pleaded not guilty, even though they
admitted to doing all this stuff. McDonald has a prior
criminal record, shocking and a warrenant out for his arrest
in Taswell County, Virginia. According to court records, he's now

(26:16):
being held an eight thousand dollars bond. Do you think
they should have just pulled over Sean? That made it
a lot easier, probably, and they probably would have gotten
away with it. Loyal Stock, Township, Pennsylvania. Women call policemen

(26:38):
shopping or front door, coming face to face with a
man holding a knife. Police found thirty five year old
I'll i'll hallil yes and Zimmerman of Williamsport holding the
knife in front of the home of the nineteen hundred
block of Lincoln Drive, Cone to Trooper Anthony Burns. After
several commands from Trooper Burns and his partner, Zimmerman dropped
the green and black folding knife. Zimmerman ordered to face

(27:02):
away and get on his knees by the troopers. According
to the complaint, he ignored the commands walked toward Trooper
Edward Jensel, who deployed his taser, knocking Zimmerman to the
ground and giving police a chance to handcuff him. Call
a claim she thought it was a delivery driver at
the door when she first opened the interior entrance, Zimmerman
standing out in front of with a knife. She called
nine to one moment because she was fearful for her safety.

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Police spoke with Zimmerman, who was sitting handcuffed on the ground.
He smelled of alcohol, slurred his speech, and could not
spell his own name. According to Trooper Burns, he called
out for an unknown person even after Trips asked him
to stop when the commotion ended. Police charge him with
this orderly conduct, fighting and noise, pumplic drunkenness and loitering

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and prowing at night. No bail issued. Schedule. Appeared before
judge on August eleventh for his preliminary hearing. I guess
he'll keep him in the lock up until then. By
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back over to the stack of stupid. Thirty one year
old Elmira Man arrested first week of July on suspicion
of recording people in the nude without their knowledge. This

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during a setup of the Oregon County Fair in Vanata.
Elijah David Russo, facing charge of first degree invasion of privacy,
booked into Lane County Jail, released on the ninth of July,
including conditions of release that he not returned to the
fair grounds. Russou arrested during the fairs setup weekend, regard
as a more relaxed environment for vendors, staff and volunteers

(29:15):
who camp and work at the site before it officially
opens up. They claimed that Russo was not an actual volunteer,
but posed as one, wearing an Oregon County Fair shirt
and helping out with the fair's flower crew. Allegations say
he recorded more than thirty minutes of video at the ritz,
which is described as the Fairs Communal shower area. Ruso

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accused of hiding a cell phone camera in a toiletre's
caddie to record around twenty people, including a young girl
who would prepared to be younger than ten years old,
through the spaces in the basket. Court degumans say he
admitted to filming people after being confronted by a fair
worker who thought his behavior was odd and noticed that
he had showered multiple times and was carrying the toilet

(30:01):
tree caddy in what looked like a strategic position. Yeah
search one'ff David said. Russo described the filming as a
lapse of judgment, attributing his actions to curiosity, while admitting
quote there could have been an element of arousal clothes
quote gee you think. Also told police he was ware

(30:21):
there were juveniles of the showers when he filmed, but
it wasn't his intention to film him film them, even
though apparently he did. Idiot Yeah. Public vender assigned to
represent Rousseau, didn't return calls from the news outlets he
can comment. Charge against Russo Class C felony in Oregon,
which carries a maximum prison sentence of five years and

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a fine up to one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.
One of volunteers there quoted as saying, I'll still go
to the ritz and take a shower. If someone wants
to see my fat butt. Good luck. That's a practical
way of looking at it. Let us see here, helpless onlooker,

(31:08):
powerless to stop a tourist from recklessly taking their toddler
within feet of a bison at Yellowstone National Park, as
bison can be very dangerous apparently. The independent report of
the experience of Jennifer Gunderson, retired professional photographer who witnessed
this event and posted a video of it on her Instagram,

(31:28):
of course, shows a woman and a toddler wandering within
close range of the massive grazing bison. The adult isn't
holding the toddler's hand as it gets dangerously close to
the animal. Another adult in child combo comes closer as
well as the video continues. According to Gunderson, to film
that everyone including us, told them to get back before

(31:49):
we started recording, described as correct advice. Yellowstone National Park
rules suggests visitors day at least twenty five yards away
from the animals, including bison oversolved. Tourists apparently paid the
price for breaking the guidelines, even if the bisons quite
often appear to be docile. We have watched and followed

(32:11):
the tourists of Yellowstone Instagram account and shaking our heads
at some of the things posted. Gunderson said, never in
our wildest dreams will we witness it in person. Animals
that are provoked by visitors and attacked in response could
be euthanized, even if the interaction wasn't of their choosing.

(32:32):
So you're putting the animals life in jeopardy as well
as your own toddler's life. Idiots doing idiot things because
they're idiots. That Boill sums up that one up quite nicely.
Let me talk about the six o'clock hour. Feel free
to give me a call. I guess we're sending Patriot
missiles to Ukraine. Will that do anything to stop six

(32:56):
hundred and twenty swarmed drones coming at one time? How
much of those Patriot missile systems cost per missile? Let's
contemplate that one anyway. A hold on more coming up.
I appreciate your calls, feel free to give me a
ring beyond that, I will be back after the news. Hey,
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Let's see here coming up Smith Event seven to twenty.
Every Monday, we hear from the former Vice Mayor of
the City of Cincinnati today, consistent with the norm again
as always, don't know what he wants to talk about today,
but of course a lot of crime to report over
the weekends. Sad, sad state of affairs going on in

(33:58):
the City of Cincinnati. Sure if that's where he wants
to go, but it's his prerogative. It is his segment
Money Monday with Brian James thanks to our financial loan
and amount. Every monda at eight oh five don't know
about the topics today. Didn't get those again with Joe
Strekker on vacation, little wrinkle, but I'm sure we'll manage
with Brian James as we always do it. Eight oh five.
Then we're going to be hearing from Tech's Fisher. He's

(34:19):
a state representative here in Ohio trying to stop the
Republicans from well cutting into the legality of marijuana in
the state of Ohio to boil the subject matter down.
Of course, we all voted to legalize it fairly significant, overwhelming.
He's like fifty seven percent of folks who voted said yes,
legalize it, and then began the discussion about how we
could pair how the legality of marijuana could be paired back.

(34:44):
Of course, because it didn't amend the constitution, the elected
officials in Ohio are allowed to amend it and pass
legislation pairing back your availability, like, for example, the number
of plants that could be grown. Senate proposal wants to
pair that back from twelve the sixth per household just
one of the many changes that tex Fissure is fighting.

(35:06):
So he said, listen, Ohioans. One of this Ohioans deserve it,
and we should not be messing around with it again.
That's what's boiled down. Tex Fisial joined the program and
put some flesh on the bones of my boiled down
analysis there at eight forty. So let's see the background. Okay,
you heard last week we're going to start sending Patriot

(35:27):
missile systems to Ukraine. Over the weekend, Russia fired more
than six hundred and twenty drones and long range missiles
into Ukraine, killing apparently at least six people. Ukrainian President
Zelenski the Russians continue to use their specific tactics of

(35:47):
terror against our country, striking concentrated blows in one city
or another, at one region or another. Twenty six cruise missiles,
five hundred and ninety seven attack drones were launched, of
which more than half or the shah heads type of
a missile or drones the case, maybe those are the

(36:08):
Iranian made drones that Russia is buying thousands and thousands
of Ukrainian Air Force said that it had downed three
hundred and nineteen of the drones and twenty five of
the missiles. One missile and about twenty drones had hit
five locations, so they did sneak through. And of course
Zelunsky's screaming about getting more air defense systems. He wants

(36:31):
more from the United States. He wants them from anybody
that's going to give it to him, NATO, European Union countries.
Donald Trump said he's going to do that. He's going
to be a major announcement today. But yesterday he said
the United States will be sending Patriot air defense systems
to Ukraine. That although it wasn't described how, but he
claimed the European Union was going to be paying for them.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
So.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Ignoring who's paying for them, do you think it will work?
And that's why I started out with the Predigate six
hundred and twenty drones over one operation. It was Saturday night.
I think it was announced over the weekend that this
had happened. Now and there have been multiple articles. Most
notably over the weekend there was a Wall Street Journal headline,

(37:19):
never ending supply of drones has frozen the front lines
in Ukraine. They talk about these various types of drones
and how inexpensive They are two thousand dollars. Previously described
over in Ukraine as a wedding drone. I guess people
would buy them in order to get aerial shots of weddings.
They have been repurposed to scan for enemy units and
of course modified to allow the dropping of bombs like grenades.

(37:42):
So for two thousand dollars you can well launch a drone.
They say they're inexpensively inexpensively manufactured. Quite often they're made
out of just wood. Then they have suicide drones as well,
the first person view fpv E drones. You know, Ukraine's
got four point five million of those produced. Now they

(38:07):
don't have statistics for the Russian side of the equation,
but you know, given that they regularly launch hundreds and
hundreds of drones simultaneously and then also fire the missiles
at the same time, obviously designed to distract, what do
you got on the ground that can shoot them down.
Russia has developed a special kind of drone that is
a sort of a fly by wire. It's got a

(38:28):
tether attached to it that allows them to circumvent the
jamming devices that the Ukraines are using to sort of
jam the communications with the drones. So if you've got
direct connection to the drone itself with a fiber optic wire,
you aren't worried about your communication being jammed. So the
Russians are using those as well, but sending patriots over hm.

(38:54):
Donald Trump said, it'll be business for US. I expose
that means the military industrial complex business. It will be,
of course business for American patriot manufacturers, he said, And
we will send them patriots, which they desperately need. Because
Putin really supplied prizes a lot of people. He talks
nice and then he bombs everybody in the evening. There's
a little bit of a problem there, and I don't

(39:16):
like it. So didn't say how many Patriot air defense
system he's going to be sending. Expected to meet with
North Atlantic Treaty Organization Secretary General Mark Ruddy. Ruddy at
the White House today to talk about that. Apparently Ukraine
only has a handful of Patriot systems that we donated

(39:36):
to them some other countries as well, and seeking more
of them to fend off the escalating Russian attacks. Fine,
do you know much a patriot missile system costs? The
individual missile about four million dollars a pop. A full
battery of Patriot. The whole missile system, including the missile launcher, radar,

(39:59):
and other essential components, reportedly cost one point one billion dollars. Now,
how many Patriot missiles must be used to fend off
from a swarm attack of more than six hundred drones
at the same time, How many four million dollar Patriot
missiles do you have to launch into the air? Can

(40:21):
you sustain the number of missiles that will be needed
on regular attacks like these drone swarms that they're sending
over there? And again, you got to remember the drone
swarms are basically to deter and distract while the missiles
hopefully make it through, at least hopefully from the mind
of the Russians, And it's been regularly observed that's a

(40:42):
real problem. Drones Russia is firing such huge numbers at
Ukraine are slower and less powerful than conventional missiles, admittedly,
but it's the sheer number of them saturating the skies
and overwhelming the Ukrainian defense systems, which requires you Ukraine
to use expensive interceptors to target these less expensive shah

(41:04):
Heat or Juran drones, which depletes the defensive arsenal. Again,
going back to the Patriot missile batteries at four million
dollars a pop. One military expert reportedly it's in Fox News.

(41:24):
Fabian Hoffmann, military technology expert at University of Oslo, speaking
with Fox, He says Ukraine can adopt a strategy of
hitting drone launch sites, target Rush's defense industries factories that
produce the component parts for the parts for the drones
and explosives, computer chips and other advanced electronics. But trying
to deal his quote, trying to deal with the drone

(41:45):
attacks just using missile defenses is a losing gain. Europeans
are heavily bolstering air missile defense capabilities, but it is
not enough, he said. Russia is expanding its offensive capabilities faster,
and offensive weapons are cheaper to produce than defensive Yeah,

(42:07):
the nature of battle has certainly changed, has it not.
But I'm not sure that Patriot missiles are the answer
to this problem. I know Trump is trying to get
Russia to the table to renounce some sort of ceasefire
or negotiate some measure of peace between the two countries. Russia,
as he indicated, doesn't seem really willing to want to
do anything serious about that they talk a good game

(42:29):
during the day and then overnight launch swarms of drones
at Ukraine, various cities and most notably non military targets
being hit regularly as well. Charlie Foxtrot, folks, It's all
I can conclude. Let's see what Bobby's got on the
subject this morning, Bobby, thanks for calling it a Happy
Monday to you, my friend.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
Happy Monday, Mike, praying, keep pulling that torture freedom high.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I'm bright trying to figure it out, Bobby, trying to
figure it out.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Hey, with all the violence that we're having locally here
in the Cincinnati the area, do you think they could
kind of get that skateboard park in Washington Park going
on a little bit, Master, It's only a million and
a half dollars are.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Going to pend, you know, and that'll stop it.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
Yeah. I'm just wondering how many people from outside the
Washington Park area will be going to skate park.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I'm willing to venture very few, slim to none. How
about that.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
I handed it. I handed capped to ten people in
six months, so that's not too bad.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Let's see if your numbers bear that out, Bobby.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I have a good day.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
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three talko ton fact fifty on eight and find a
wonderful weekend. Ah, not going well for Democrats. Get another
pole out And yes, I understand, we all know how
we appreciate poles. But this is a Democrat super pack
run poll. It's called by It was done by Unite
the Country, conducted between May and June, so Democratic super pack.

(44:19):
So you would figure there's to be Democrat leaning and
that the outcomes and the answers would be skewed to
favor the Democrats. But there's no hiding what the Democrats
find themselves facing this pole. Boiled down show voters precede
the Democratic Party as quote out of touch, close quote

(44:39):
woke and weak. Party apparently seen its support a road
with white men, Hispanic men, and working class voters. Oh
the former, you know, sweet spot for the Democratic Party.
Approval ratings below thirty five percent among white men and

(45:00):
Hispanic men and working class voters generally, and enthusiasm apparently
down since the big loss last year. In November, Democratic
strategist Rodell MULLINEU, it's the senior advisor with this Democrat
superPAC quote. This is the reality of the perception of
us as a party, and until we accept that, it's

(45:21):
going to be hard to move forward. There's a perception
out there outside of Democratic elites, and it's taken hold
in not just the MAGA crowd, but people that should
be with us, i e. Democrats, He said, Democrats need
to realize that in order to improve and get better

(45:43):
to not only win in twenty twenty eight, but to
win in twenty thirty and twenty thirty two and beyond,
Democrats need to realize that in order to improve and
get better to not only win in twenty eight. I
don't even know what that means. What, okay, what is
specifically improvement? How are you going to make things better
for the Democrats? Doesn't mean issues and arguments and pleas

(46:05):
to the American people that resonate This on the heels
of a recent ap North Pole out in May showing
only thirty five percent of survey Democrats are optimistic about
the party's future. Fifty seven percent were optimistic in July
of last year, so they've had a precipitous drop. Apparently

(46:27):
donors and bundlers are not writing checks for the Democrats
unite the country again. This super packed Democrat poll conducted
with voters in twenty one battleground counties across ten states,
revealing that Democrats have not escaped the shadow of their
loss in twenty twenty four. Voters perceptions of the party
remained the same. Democrats have had opportunities that's written here

(46:54):
to hit back a Trump administration, including on tariffs, immigration deportations,
and recently the Trump's Big Beautiful Bill. But pause and
think about those as topics, most notably immigration deportations, polling
very successfully for the Republicans side of the ledger, not
so for the Democrats. Democrats are struggling with the reality
of what they had under the Biden administration was one big,

(47:16):
beautiful open border with millions of folks coming into our country,
overwhelming resources and cities, and creating all the problems that
have been created, including crime. That's not a winner on them.
How could they turn that into a winning argument they're trying.
You got all these left winging radicals going after ice
agents who are merely trying to do their job and

(47:36):
enforce America's immigration laws, laws that are on the books.
And when you poll the American people, the American people
are behind the efforts of ICE, So they're not with
the protesters who are well engaging in violent and dangerous
conduct against our ICE agents. Steve Shale, democratic strategists and

(47:58):
CEO of the super Pack Unite the Country, I was
frustrated during the one big Beautiful bill stuff we missed
an opportunity to really define a different kind of vision. Really,
why don't you out loud to find that what specifically
should you have said during the discussion of the Big
Beautiful Bill that would turn the Democrat Party in people's
perception of it around. See, they're just they make these

(48:19):
statements in an absolute factual vacuum. They don't have anything
to run on. What they want to run on and
have been emphasizing is not popular with the American people.
That's that whole summary boil down position that they're out
of touch, woke and weak woke doesn't work. It doesn't.

(48:42):
Super PAC's poll revealed the Democrats prime emphasis fighting for democracy.
While as popular as a phrase catchphrase within the Democratic Party,
does it resonate with the general electorate. Nor does soft
on immigration policy. It turns voters away, So no one's
buying into you. Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.

(49:04):
Claim you're on the wrong side of immigration, You're on
the wrong side of women playing or men playing in
women's sports. You're on the wrong side of the woke ideology.
You're on the wrong side of literally almost every single
popular policy position, at least among the Democrat elites in
the party. So here's just one absolutely far left leaning
poll confirming all that, yet coming up with absolutely nothing

(49:26):
by way of solutions or suggestions for the Democrats. So
enjoy it. I guess. I mean, I'm not trying to
come up with strategies for the Democrats. But I mean,
if what you're doing is literally failing before your very eyes,
don't you think you may well take a play our
page out of the other side's playbooks since the other

(49:48):
side seems to be accomplishing its objectives the other side's
presidential candidate. Excuse me, Donald Trump actually campaigned on what
he's delivering, including the big Beautiful bill, and we voted
for him to hopefully accomplish his campaign pledges. I guess

(50:08):
the Democrats called that one wrong six twenty seven fifty
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Money Monday at eighth five, including Fed's facing an epic

(50:29):
conundrum in the second half, corne to economists, some of
the tax breaks in the big beautiful bill smaller than
you think, and uh see year inflation. Finally to suppose
supposed to show a tariff related increase. The Fed still
might cut interest rates anyway, which would come as probably

(50:50):
good news to most folks out there, especially those looking
them buy a home cutting into interest rates. Over local stories,
Sin Saint Polase, investigating two separate shootings happened over responded
about midnight to reports of at least one person shot
in the seven hundred block of Dutch Colony Drive in
Winton Hills, one person taking to UC Medical Center, since
I please are investigating a shooting at Clark and Lynn

(51:13):
Streets in the West End as well. Earlier officials had
to respond there abound ten PM on Sunday. No suspect
information release, no arrest information reported as of yet see here.
We have a seventeen year old girl taken to the
hospital after a shooting occurred in Clifton. Happened yesterday morning,

(51:35):
according to Lieutenant Jonathan Cunningham, speaking of Fox nineteen, he
reported that a gathering took place around four am. Police
were notified at shots being fired in Bellevue Park on
Ohio Avenue. Victim to take into christ Hospital, then taken
to UC Medical Center, apparently with non life threatening injuries.
Police have not stated if they have a suspect. Officers

(51:55):
are still investigating that one two people following an officer
involved shooting in Middletown, according to Daniel Hills of Frontline Advisors,
formerly the FOP President. Dan Hills. Hill said officers responded
Sunday afternoon to the home in three thousand block of
Mohawk Street after receiving a report of a woman who
had been shot inside the home. When officers got there,

(52:17):
an unidentified suspect fired a weapon at the police. Officers
attempted to negotiate with this guy. Suspect continued to threaten
officers with his firearm, so police opened fire and hit
the suspect and then he died. The woman who was
shot inside the home pronounced dead as well. According to
social media post by the Middletown Division of Police, the

(52:38):
victim and the suspect were husband and wife. Hill said
no officers were injured and the shooting wonderful news. That
it's all captured on a ring camera from a nearby
home which caught the sound of six gun shots and
it's in the video. It shows multiple neighbors gathered near
Middletown first responder vehicles. Said three people her dad, including

(53:04):
one suspect, and a Kentucky State Police officers. Two men
injured after a series of shootings happened the other day,
July thirteenth, near an airport and a church in Lexington.
Suspect a man susseected of shooting the state trooper on
Terminal Drive just after eleven thirty in the morning, located
by law enforcement officers at Richmond Road Baptist Church, Lexington
Police shot and killed the suspect. Lexington Police Chief Lawrence

(53:27):
Weathers during a press conference. Three officers fired their weapons
at the suspect. They expected to identify the suspect once
the family is notified. At least as of the reporting
this morning from the Louisville Courier Journal, not yet released.
Trooper received treatment for their injuries, believed to be in
stable condition. Shooting on terminal driver ocurred after state troopers

(53:50):
stopped the vehicle in connection to a license plate reader alert.
Suspect left the scene after the trooper was shot. Short
time later, the suspect carjacked of the The equal officers
were able to attract it to the fifty eight hundred
block of Old Richmond Road, where the suspect fired his
weapon at individuals on church property. Two women pronounced debt

(54:10):
at the scene. Two men hospitalized, according to Officer Weather's
one man in critical condition, the other instable condition. Explimentary
information in case the suspect may have had a connection
to the individuals at the church, according to Weathers Jeez
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here the direction of the conversation. That's great with me.
And coming off the heels of that poll that I mentioned,
the Democratic super Pac poll again a Democrat leaning pole

(55:58):
overseen by Democrats unite the country, showing that the Democrat
Party is woke week and out of touch. So say
it the Democrats that were polled. What do you do
when you woke weekend out of touch? You go and
attack people while they're enjoying themselves in their private lives.
And this is part of a growing trend that I
find very troubling, and I would not personally participate in

(56:20):
going after my Democrat foes when they're gathering in private,
when they were at their enjoying the comfort and solace
of their own homes. I think it's offensive to go
after them and they're off time. Personally, I wouldn't want
it to happen to me, and I can't see that
it will be a good thing happening to them, because
then you know, get the argument to turn about's fair play.
But if you have nothing to run on, you're on

(56:40):
the wrong side of all the issues. I guess that's
what you do, and you egg people on to do it.
Enter Gavin Newsome, governor of the state of California, targeting
Vice President J. D. Vance and his wife and children
while they were visiting Disneyland. He shared a video a
van and his family at Disneyland, saying, hope you enjoy

(57:04):
your family time at JD. Vans. The families you're tearing
apart certainly won't. Of course, there were protesters outside Disneyland
protesting Vance and his family over Friday and Saturday because
it had been widely reported the JD. Evans was enjoying
some family time at Disneyland. So what do you do?
You go after him? Do you feel sorry for the

(57:24):
children on this? I appreciate the fact that a politician
may invite this upon themselves because they run for politics
and there are always somebody on the other side of
the of the of the political ledger that doesn't like
what they're doing. But again, this was a private visit.
It had nothing to do with politics. He's taking his
kids to Disneyland to enjoy a fun day at the park. So,

(57:47):
in addition to Gavin knew some egging people on to attack.
Basically fund I boil this down to attack a politician
in the private time. Local Democrats also encouraging protests to
tark Advance and his family over the weekend. Orange County
Supervisor Vincente's armenia mento, I am offended by the visit

(58:08):
because so many families are being terrorized by the politics
or policies from the federal government. He's aferring, of course,
to illegal immigrants, most notably criminal illegal immigrants who are
being targeted by ICE for deportation from our country, again
a policy widely popular in the American among the American people. So,

(58:29):
you know, I don't know what you think about this,
but we've had Supreme Court justices been attacked in their homes.
We've had lives threatened on a daily basis. It's easy
to do in a world full of social media. Of course,
you can almost fully get away with it because of
the you know, difficulties in identifying who any individual is
making these outlandish and absurd threats against politicians and other

(58:52):
elected officials and appointed officials. So I'm not sure necessarily
how to deal with it, but I do not think
it is an appropriate prudent thing for folks as high
as Governor Gavin Knew some stature to encourage people to
engage in this type of activity. This is an act

(59:13):
of desperation, is what I view it as. So you're
going to frighten, and I think this is the intended point.
Like for example, if you threaten judges because of some
ruling that you anticipate them making. Your hope is I
suppose in threatening them, is you better come up with
a different conclusion in that decision, or something is going

(59:33):
to happen to you. You better change your policies relative
to going after criminal illegal aliens in our country, or
something is going to happen to you. We are going
to protest to you. We are coming after your family,
We are coming after you on vacation, which means you're
not safe anywhere. And the message is coming through loud
and clear. There's no question about it. Just wish the

(59:57):
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not advocating for this type of behavior. No good can
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here in Ohio. The ad reportedly portrayed will portray Zarhan
Mom Donnie the crazy Kami who won the Democratic primary

(01:03:01):
for the city New York City, which has freaked out,
I mean a lot of Democrats too. They're worried as long,
I mean as much as they can be that this
guy's going to be the next mayor of New York
and if his policies are implemented, no one's going to
want to remain in New York. Radical socialist. Apparently, the
Ramaswami ad campaign will read ready to flee NYC. It'll

(01:03:24):
show Ramaswami as someone protecting freedom and will read move
to Ohio. Apparently, Ed's going to say, worried about Zorhan,
Ohio is waiting for you. Apparently, I was a popular destination.
Ohio the twentieth most popular state for people to move
to that were leaving New York. We had a total

(01:03:45):
of thirty one people move out of New York and
had to Ohio in twenty twenty two. Andy Serabian, the
chief strategist for this Ramaswami pack, speaking New York Post
that people live in New York City should move to
a state that is about to elect a conservative trail
blazer committed to liberty and prosperity for all, while Mandami

(01:04:05):
will further crush New York City with his job killing
socialist Tyranny Vivak ready to unleash freedom, supercharge the American
dream in make Ohio a state of excellence. We've put
this billboard up because we couldn't think of two politicians
in the country that represents such wildly different paths for
a future in our nation. The Mondami path is socialist
totalitarianism versus the v vague path of American freedom. Freedom. Well,

(01:04:31):
good for him. I don't know if it's going to
actually bear fruit, but he is a real threat to
New York City. There's a lot of prominent business CEOs
that have, you know, massive numbers of people employed in

(01:04:52):
New York City. Financial and otherwise industries are saying he's
going to be a terrible thing for New York and
they're talking about moving out. We've already had some major
businesses move out of New York City for taxation and
regulation reasons alone. Along comes mun Domin. He's talking about
rent control, increasing taxes on those pesky millionaires, the ones
that actually pay the taxes and keep New York City running. Yeah,

(01:05:15):
you're gonna run out of those at some point. And
of course everything that he has proposed has been proven
to be a demonstrable failure wherever else it has been tried.
This is the problem with Commis and socialists. They keep saying, well, no,
we just didn't do it right. Then next time we're

(01:05:37):
gonna get it right. No, No, the next time it's
gonna go south on you, just like it always does.
A Well, he has a thirty five percent favorability rating
among the voters mom Domi does this accord of the
most recent poll conducted July ninth by Politico. Another left

(01:06:00):
between left leaning polster Andrew Cuomo coming in second with
twenty five percent, so New Yorker's will have a choice.
So maybe it'll finally sink in that this guy is
a recipe for absolute disaster. But I do appreciate Vive
getting in front of the situation, and uh just I

(01:06:20):
guess it's a great way of contrasting freedom versus totalitarianism,
which is exactly what the ad campaign does. Of course,
gives him a larger nationwide presence since this is clearly
a race that has, I mean, the nation's attention, this
merrill race in New York, so probably prudent strategy. It

(01:06:42):
only cost them fifty grand and the display is going
to remain up for the full week. Whether that's any
fruit for the state of Ohio, we'll wait and see.
Doesn't hurt though, does it? Six fifty five ifty five
k c DE Talk Station. More to talk about after
the top of the air and this plus Christopher Smithman
coming up at seven to twenty. I hope you can
stick around seven oh five here at fifty five Garrosede

(01:07:17):
Talk Station Monday. Like it or not, I always like it.
At least Christopher Smithman joins the program. We'll be on
the next segment seven to twenty for the Smith event,
former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati. Always enjoy that.
I'm not quite sure what he's going to talk about
it if it will be crime, which is obviously a
continuing problem, as evidences by the number of shootings over
the weekend the Cincinnati area and Greater Cincinnati area. Monday, Monday,

(01:07:38):
Brian James one hour from now eight to oh five,
variety of different topics talk about with Brian James. Thanks
to all our financial for loaning amount and tex Fisher,
State Representative. Fisher here from the state of Ohio is
going to be talking about his defense and protection of
access to marijuana. Since we all voted for legalization, he's
trying to stop some of the Republicans from putting more

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curbs and restrictions on the general law that we passed
that allows for legalization a weed in the state of Ohio.
So text will join the programm at eed forty meantime
over the phones will go. Let's start with Matt. Matt,
thanks for calling this morning. Happy Monday to you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:17):
Oh, happy Monday, Brian. Yeah, I just want to talk
about the shootings over in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Yeah, which one you got a lot to choose from.

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
Well, now, smither Vent said that most of the shootings
are in the black community, and he can say that
without being racist because I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Believe he's black. Right, Well, I think anybody could say
that because statistically that's a fact. I mean, I mean,
if someone wants to label you a racist for saying
something that is true out loud, if it has a
connection to the heart of the problem, I think it
is really important to note that because most of the
victims are black. And why is it that many people
within the black community, like Black Lives Matter, are the

(01:08:58):
ones that want to get rid of the police department
that only harms their own community. So is it racist
to point that out? I don't think so.

Speaker 9 (01:09:06):
Okay, Bryan, check me on this. Several years ago, there
was a report that the City of Cinc. Ninety police
department was racist. I remember that. It might be ten, fifteen,
forey years ago, but I remember that. Okay, So let
to do. They pulled back from the black community. They

(01:09:27):
let them live their lives without getting in there. So
now what has happened Now the crime rate has gone up.
They're not racist anymore, but the black community is in
trouble and even the local even a lot of people
in the black community say we need help. Yeah, so

(01:09:48):
that's what the city, if since and needs do figure
out what to do to get him to help at
the black community needs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Yeah, probably'll adjust.

Speaker 9 (01:09:57):
That there's the violence. This is going to continue and
it'll get worse.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
More and more and more.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Yeah, Well that would require I guess more proactive policing.
You know, we saw that in New York City, proactive
policing regularly, regularly encountering folks on the street and asking
them questions. It resulted in a precipitous drop in crime.
What happened when they got rid of proactive policing while
crime went through the roof. And I suspect there may
be something in connection with that. But this has got
multiple layers. Had you started out with the George Floyd

(01:10:26):
defund the police riots, Black Lives Matter, you got to
get rid of the police. They need to rethink the
police department. That was all the wave and all the
raids there for a long time. All the cities across
this country who experienced that and who followed those those formats,
those recipes for you know, transforming the police have all
dealt with precipitous increases in crime. They're all learning their

(01:10:47):
lessons and they're going back in the opposite direction. I
think this is one of the frustrations Christopher has been
expressing week after week with the administration, the mayor, and
council members just not saying anything, ignoring the problem as
if it doesn't exist, not providing reasonable, in appropriate suggestions
by way of reform that would help any community in
the city of Cincinnati get the violence under control. And

(01:11:11):
the silence is indeed deafening. Why don't they regularly go
out and support the police? Christopher said it a bunch
of times. Yes, in my neighborhood where I live in
the city, one of many of the neighborhoods, most people
want more police. They aren't caught up in this, and
they don't agree that this is the police force are
all evil, racist collective folks that need to be done
away with. We don't need to reimagine police, We need

(01:11:34):
to bring it back to the neighborhood to help us
defend off the crime. So you know, somebody's going to
call your racist if they want to call your racists.
Because many people cower in the face of an accusation
of racism. You know, whether or not you're a racist,
if you got logical and reasonable principles and points you
can make to defend yourself, your conclusions that led to

(01:11:56):
this charge of racism and stick to your guns. That's
I don't think it's working as much as it used
to it. You know, it's kind of like the Boyo
cried wolf. There's only so many times you can say it,
and then people find like a they their eyes gloss over,
They're like, okay, yeah whatever. It's like name calling. Who's next?
Maureen is next? Marine? Welcome back to the Morning Show, Maureene.

(01:12:18):
Always good to hear from you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
Good morning, Brian. I wanted to turn in about what
you had in your opening about the truth social post
by President Trump Raredoni regarding Bondi, Bongino and Cash Betel. Yeah,
and it's all I agree with you that it is very,
very confusing. There are a couple theories out there, a
couple of things hit over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Well me let me enlighten my listeners. I was cleaning
to Trump's comment about they meaning the Democrats created the
Epstein files, just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton
slash Christopher Steele dossier that they used on me, and
now my so called friends are playing right into their hands.
In other words, if you're asking for these documents, these
Epstein documents, to be released, you're playing into the Democrat hands,

(01:13:00):
which doesn't make a witzworth of sense to me, not
a bit, because Biden had all this information. If the
Democrats created them, obviously they would have created them for
the purposes of harming Trump or anybody else. They weren't
used to bring about harm to Trump. How is it
now that it's something that Democrats did? And we are
playing into their hands by wanting answers to these questions,
which suggested that there was a lot of information they

(01:13:22):
were sitting on that we were all going to get
to see.

Speaker 7 (01:13:26):
Yeah, a couple of theories out there. One is that
Erosom's suspicion was that mac Gates was called back. He
was scheduled to do a Turning Point USA event here
in Tampa with Tucker Carl. He was called an emergency
meeting with President Trump. There's some thought that he may
be being brought in to replace Bondi and be the

(01:13:47):
attorney general, which was Trump's first choice to begin with.
And according to what I heard is that under Article two,
Section two and Class three of the Constitution, you can
be brought in during session in August when they're on recess.
But the tru BONDI though, I know, yes, I know,
I know, but she could resign on her own just

(01:14:09):
because of all this. But that's like the least one
that people suspect. The other one is that he's being
brought in as a special prosecutor for the election fraud information.
And coupled with that, John Solomon of Just the News
he released a video that went firal over the weekend too,
and he said that they're opening a large conspiracy case

(01:14:31):
to delve deeper into cross Fire Hurricane, and it's going
to be such a big event where all these things
are wrapped into a single conspiracy, which will also include
not only cross Fire Hurricane, but the dossiers oh gosh,
the Russia collisions.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Yeah, yes, well, and Trump did say, let Pambini do
her job. She's great. The twenty twenty election was rigged
and stolen and they tried to do the same in
twenty twenty four. That that's what she's looking into as
age and much more fine. I don't think there's any
question that they might be looking into that, but that
doesn't preclude them answering direct questions on the Epstein files,

(01:15:10):
which is still swirling with all these question marks because
of all the prior statements and allegations and accusation that
were made by people who are now saying there's nothing
to see there.

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
I mean, it's a well good according to what John
Solomon is saying, that this is supposed to drop within
the week to ten days, and then it will incorporate
all of those things and eventually lead into the voter
fraud and the Epstein files because they're all tied together
because of the money that was involved with the Epstein thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
So Epstein's stuff will be included in a broader conspiracy
related to the twenty twenty Live. Okay, then it's a
terrible way of doing that. Why would you say there's
nothing here? There is no list, he did commit suicide.
We don't have anything to show you but a bunch
of videos that contain child pornography, which we're not going
to show you anyway. That's all there is. That doesn't

(01:16:00):
lend itself to then using this information in some our
broader conspiracy theory. Well wait, a second, you already said
there's nothing there. Why are you now incorporating it into
a broader investigation? That doesn't make any sense. Why didn't
they just say, well, we are going to give you
this information. Is not as quickly as we originally schedule
to bring it because it connects with a broader investigation

(01:16:20):
that's ongoing, and so we don't want to be premature
and releasing this information because it all is it's a
puzzle piece to a broader problem that we're facing here.
So I'm puzzled by this. It just seems to me,
and the idea that Trump will get all angry and
upset with a reporter asking a question about this, come on.
The foundation was laid for those types of questions to
be asked. We've been told by these same people over

(01:16:42):
and over again that there is a there there, that
there was child molestation. That's a crime, it's worthy of prosecution.
If you said it last year, how come you're not
saying it now. Yeah, it just I don't know. From
a strategic standpoint, it just doesn't seem like there's any
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Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
It's the twenty e IFIF above krc DE talk station.
Happy Monday made extra special every Monday at this time
because I hear from the former Vice mayor of the
City of Cincinnati, friend of the show, personal friend of mine,
which I'm happy to say, Christopher Smithman, with a Monday
Morning Smither event. Welcome back to my friend. I hope
you had a wonderful weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
Thank you so much, Brian and I. I just want
to start off brother by addressing one of your callers,
but I don't want to. I don't want to stay there.
But you know, the notion that you are a racist
because you're white and you're talking about what's happening in
your city from a factual perspective is a way that

(01:18:51):
I think the left places these this mindset of deflection,
so they really don't want you to talk about it.
Because it makes them so are uncomfortable, so therefore they
start calling people racist. The reality of it is, we
have the super majority of people in Cincinnati that are
involved in gun violence are African Americans, period, and so

(01:19:16):
if you look at a list at the end of
the year of how many people are shy, the majority
of those people are African Americans. We elected a mayor
and a council to help assolve it, and they're obviously
not getting the job done. What's frustrating for me is
the election is in November, and I just have this

(01:19:37):
sense that the Democrats in the city will do the
same thing. They'll vote for the same people on council,
They'll vote for the same mayor and get the same results.
That is what baffles me. But to the caller, I'm
not a racist. You're not a racist if he's not
a racist for trying to talk about these issues and

(01:19:57):
to try to identify solutions. One of those solutions is
to move away, and city council has not done this,
and the mayor has not done this is move away
from the defund the police mentality or reimagine the police
so our officers do not feel supported. What are ways

(01:20:18):
the mayor could do. What can he do to make
the police officers in Cincinnati, Brian Thomas feel supported. Go
to roll calls, do ride alongs, do a press conference
with your chief, Say I support the police. I support
them doing proactive policing. I'm going to put them in
visible positions between the time of nine and three or

(01:20:39):
four o'clock in the morning. We're using our police visibility
over time in our hot spots, starting with our core
of downtown. And I want every officer to know that
I support them. This mayor, this collective council will never
say that, Brian Thomas, that is the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Well so far they haven't, So it's a reasonable conclusion
for you to reach. And you know, I guess the
other component is if they're not calling you racist, they're
gonna say, yeah, a lot of the violences in the
black community, a lot of the gun violence is directed
a fellow black members of the black community. It's because
of the systemic problem we have. It's a systemic breakdown.

(01:21:23):
We've been underserved. It's a racist ideology that has led
our neighborhoods to this sorry state. And I just have
to kind of think about that and go, wait a second,
you've been neglected. Your elected officials have let you down.
Going to your point, Christopher, we'll quit voting for the
same people over and over again as you have been
doing for the last forty plus years. If you think
you're underserved, try a different path. But by being underserved,

(01:21:46):
if you just assume that as a fact, why would
that cause members within that community to start shooting each other?
What possible justification can being down on the socioeconomic scale
have to do with you going around and firing a
gun into a crowd full of people? Willy nilly? How
is the connection there?

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
And the other thing is, why would the mayor and
the council tell you that downtown is safe? Come on
down when every time I listen to your show in
the morning, I hear gunshot OTR Main Street, wherever the banks,
And then the mayor says, it's almost like it reminds

(01:22:31):
me of this. This this don't believe what you're hearing,
don't believe what you're seeing. The reality of it is,
i am the former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
and I'm uncomfortable going into my core downtown. The main
reason is I've lost confidence in the mayor, and I've
lost confidence collectively in the city council. So why would

(01:22:56):
I tell my daughter, who I love, it's okay for
you your friends to go downtown when they can go
somewhere else and be safe where there aren't the shootings.
You can go to Montgomery, you can go to Kinwood, wherever.
You can go somewhere else where you're not gonna get shot.
That's the problem. And until the mayor and the council,

(01:23:19):
who are on summer break, take this gun violence series
other than just holding a press conference and saying, listen,
this is just your perception. Really, gun violence is down
and we're okay, nothing's going to change.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
On Monday, Brian Thomas with Christopher Smitheman doing the psmither event.
Christopher Smitheman, what else is on your mind today? My friend?

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
Look, I just want to debunk this narrative that I
keep hearing say said over and over and over again. Bye. Really,
the Democratic Party are their representatives, and that is and
this is important that ICE agents are targeting immigrants here

(01:25:06):
in a very kind of random way. That is not
what is happening. ICE agents are targeting people who have
come into our country illegally, who are criminals, that last
word criminals. The target on those who are potential rapists,
or they have engaged in rape in their own countries, murder, robbery, mayhem,

(01:25:32):
whatever you want to gang members, those have been the
targets of ICE. But if they go into an apartment
and there are ten people there, and let's just say
three of them are women who are girlfriends of MS
thirteen gang members, they're all here illegally, and they're all

(01:25:53):
being deported. But there's notion and if you're hanging with
gang members, if you're if your girlfriend, if you're the
girlfriend of an MS thirteen gang member, and you're in
our country illegally, I don't have any problem with you
being deported for this notion that liberal Democrats keep promoting

(01:26:17):
that ICE agents are here targeting, whether it's Cincinnati, Hamilton County,
whether it's parts of Kentucky, or whether it's in Texas.
People that are getting up every day going to work
is just absolutely alive. And it just infuriates me how
the Democrats keep pushing that narrative. And I just want

(01:26:39):
to push back this morning saying listen, I got a daughter,
I'm a girl dad, you're a girl dad. I don't
want it to be my scene where my daughter is
out taking a dog on a college campus and one
of these MS thirteen gang members targets her, drags her
into would rates her and murders her. We can be

(01:27:04):
this is what we call pro active policing. What ICE
is doing. These are people that came into the country illegally.
You broke the law. You broke the law. However, you're
a gang member, you're someone who murdered somebody, you rate somebody.
I don't want you here. I don't understand why the
Democrats are fighting so hard, Ryan Thomas, to keep people

(01:27:28):
like this in our country.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Well, and it's a losing battle for them. I mean
I brought this up this morning on that that left
wing you know, a Democrat polster that did the poll
talking about how the Democrats, even their own are not
happy with their own party. Dissatisfaction rate is through the roof,
and they don't have any policies that resonate with the
American people. In terms of immigration and enforcement of the

(01:27:52):
immigration policy. Trump ran on and he promised to do it.
His big thing from day one has been, you know,
build a big border wall and stop the flow, uh flow,
of ill immigration that resonated with the country. He won
the popular vote, he won the electoral college, and he's
fulfilling his promise. And still poll after poll after poll
shows that most Americans want to deport all illegal immigrants,

(01:28:13):
not just the criminal element among them. So the Democrats
can stream and scream and resist and go after ICE agents.
I think at all in yours to the Republican Party's benefit,
because that's not what the American people want, because most
people think, like you, Christopher, there but for the grace
of God, go I and my daughter getting raped and murdered.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
It's all driving a car drunk DUI and you kill
an American family. You're in the country illegally, you're driving drunk,
and you kill our American family. I just don't understand
where Democrats are coming from, why this is such a problem.

(01:28:54):
And you now see on TV my icy someone shooting
at ICE agents over the weekend as they are identifying miners.
I'm going to get into the adults. Oh yeah, but
miners who are working on the farms. As an American,
we do not value working twelve and thirteen year olds

(01:29:18):
and fourteen year olds in a field. It's illegal to
do it, And so why would Democrats who say they
love children, they want to protect kids. All these children
who've been separated when they came into the country illegally.
Now we're finding some of them, and we're finding them
in environments on farms where they are being worked, which

(01:29:42):
is absolutely illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Exploited and exploited.

Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I mean, there's children that were found by the ICE
agents are probably in a much better situation having been
found by the ICE agents than they were as basically
slave labor on the marijuana camp.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
We haven't heard Brian Thomas, one of the Democrats, say
that was wrong. Not one when the guy is literally
on the video shooting at the ICE agents. No one
said there's a fifty thousand dollars reward to find out
who that is. No one said we denounced that. I'm
trying to figure out, Brian Thomas, like you are, what

(01:30:23):
is going on with the Democrats and why are they
so silent and hell bent on keeping people who are
criminals in the United States of America. And I'm not
even getting into the politics that they say. I agree
with you, it's a very bad politics. I'm saying the
practicality of you and I who are girl dads. These

(01:30:44):
are people who are praying on our American women. Clearly
they are, and they're killing them and raping them and
robbing them. Why would we want them in the United
States of America And why would the Democratic Party push
that kind of an agenda. Now, part of this is
if you look at MSNBC and you watch CNN, they're

(01:31:05):
telling you the opposite. They're saying they're deporting everybody. You
just show up to work and they grab you off
the street. That's how they're presenting it on their on
their media platforms. But that is absolutely not the truth.
And there might be someone who's listening to this who says, wow,
I didn't realize that ICE is targeting their first group

(01:31:26):
of people. They're trying to put all their time and
energy and getting out the criminals. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yeah, you're right. And the only I mean that only
that the defenseless you know, mom, worker or whatever, who
got caught up in the entrapment because of they were
going after criminals. That's the only thing that could possibly
resonate with the American people is well, that's not really fair.
That poor woman's been here for twelve fifteen years and
she didn't do anything right. But if you peel back

(01:31:53):
the veneer of that, you see quite often it's a circumstance,
like you're talking about where well she happened to be
an MS third team gang member's girlfriend. Let's bring Christopher
back because I think I might have the answer to
the question of why they fight so hard to keep
this all of the criminals as well as every other
illegal immigrant in the country. Pausible bring Christopher back for
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Speaker 5 (01:33:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
I think about kerr CE talk Station Brian time as
here with Christopher Smitheman during the Smith event and as
to the wise Christopher, I was thinking you of the
Democrats fighting to protect and keep every single illegal immigrant,
criminal or otherwise in the country. I think part of
this has to do with the fact that if you
look at the Blue States, you know your New York's,
you're Illinois, You're California's.

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
We all learned what happened after COVID. Everybody who could
get out got out. Their population numbers left. There are
numbers of people who make a lot of money left
the state for places with lower taxes and a veteran
regulatory environment. So they're hemorrhaging people who actually make money.
They got to keep their economy going. And the other
thing is they want to keep control of the UH.
They want to gain control of the House of Representatives.

(01:33:59):
That's a popularation driven thing, Christopher. And if you substitute
the US citizenry with a bunch of illegal immigrants, you
can maintain your numbers for the purpose of the census
and the number of representatives you have in the House.
And that's one of the things that they're desperately trying
to do. And I think that's part of the how.
I believe that the Texas governor and the Florida governor

(01:34:19):
kind of played into their hands a little bit because
they declared themselves New York, California, et cetera, a sanctuary
states or cities, which was an invitation for illegal immigrants
come here, and we won't harass you or arrest you
or otherwise try to kick you out. We will not
cooperate with federal authorities. That's an invitation to come in.
And of course the governors of Texas and Florida played

(01:34:40):
into that by busting the illegal immigrant population to those destinations,
so they effectively boosted their population numbers pretty significantly with
the illegal immigrants, which may very well allow them to
keep the number of representatives they have in the House.
Just a thought.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
Well, at first, I agree with you. First of all,
I agree that if it cannspiracy and part of that conspiracy,
what are the legs to the conspiracy? Is no ID,
you don't have to have an idea to vote. And
the way the Democrats tried to pimp it out is
to suggest that African Americans were not able to get

(01:35:17):
identification to vote. The target wasn't African Americans. The target
were the illegal people in the country who they wanted
to vote. But they had to offend African Americans by saying, hey, listen,
so many African Americans can't get a state ID, so
many African Americans can't get a driver's license, there's no

(01:35:38):
way they can identify themselves when they show up and
vote as Americans, which I am an American in this country.
But the real conspiracy was to have that blanket conversation
so those people who were in the country illegally did
not have a requirement for identification.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
I agree with you, I think you're onto something. So
multiple layers of of why they would fight to keep
all the illegal immigrants in the country.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
No, No, it's absolutely true. And as we get to
a close, you know, I try to have public conversations
with you, Brian, my white brother, about racism, and it's
very complicated. But what I will say to you is
that there are people who try to weaponize racism. First

(01:36:28):
of all, racism is real, just like sexism is real.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
It happens in this country, sure, but.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
There are people, there are people who use that as
a deflection. Okay, So somebody like an Al Sharpton who
says nothing about the African Americans who are killing each
other in these major cities, whether it's Chicago, whether it's
La whether it's New York, right where he lives, you

(01:36:56):
hear nothing from his voice. He lives no political capital
for that bloodshed. But once a white officer takes the
life of an African American who's a juvenile with a
gun in a major city all sharp and will fly
anywhere to have that discussion, that's somebody who is, in

(01:37:16):
my opinion, off course, and who is not helping solve
these very serious problems that we're facing. And it doesn't
make a person a racist for articulating that that is
what is going on. You and I are not dumb
as my white brother, me as your black brother, trying
to solve these big issues that are happening. But let's

(01:37:40):
not say. You know, I'll never get on your show
and say, well, man, I've never experienced racism or my
kids habits or my parents have it. But they're jerks
all over the place. They're people that are nuts all
over the place. But the reality of but the reality
of it is, is that what you and I are
talking about, this uncontrolled epidemic of a violence, violence that's

(01:38:03):
happening in our urban core, specifically where you and I live.
We have a Newter mayor and a Newter council. They
don't have the solution. And until we elect people that
absolutely care are willing to roll up their sleeves, willing
to do what it takes. And it starts with empowering

(01:38:25):
our police to do the great job that they've been
trained to do and back them up. Every Monday morning.
They're going to be errors out here. You pull up
to a car their tenant windows, you don't know what
the hell is going on in the car. You ask
the citizen please roll down your window. I need to

(01:38:45):
see what's happening in the front and the backseat, because
somebody can have a gun pointed at the officer and
they don't do it, they don't comply. What do you
think is going to happen on that dark road? Do
you think the officer is going to die? He's not
going to go back to his wife, or she's not
going to go back to her husband. We're living in
this La Lau land with Democrats who continue and it's

(01:39:08):
so dangerous, Brian Thomas. It's so dangerous because it's undermining
our society. A society that refuses to support and respect
law enforcement is a lawless society. And we have Democrats
out here, whether it's Ice, whether it's peace officers, who
continue to push that narrative. It is very very Unamerican,

(01:39:31):
and it is a big problem in our country.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Yeah, and I'll go back there to the point I
made earlier, Christopher. You know, even if we have a
systemically racist society, which is what some of the you know,
like the sharpons of LAURLD want to say, that's the problem,
that's the just that's the reason there's so much gun
violence in the black communities. I can't say how do
you draw a line that connects those two? What injustice

(01:39:53):
justifies you going out and like firing a glock with
an extended magazine into a group full of your own
peace people? How do you connect the dots on that
you don't random indiscriminate violence, deadly random indiscriminate gunfire.

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
And let me also, I guarantee you that Al Sharpton
and people like him all have bodyguards. Oh guarantee it.
I guarantee that they are always under guard, whether it's
the personal home, whether it's when they walk out and
get in their vehicle and they go somewhere, they're surrounded
by people with guns.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
They're not you and I out here every.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
Day just trying to go to a ball game or
go down to the banks and have a beer. And
we don't want people just spraying bullets into the crowds
in an indiscriminate way. And the other thing is we're
not even hearing about the assault, meaning we're focused on
the shootings. We're focused on the murder. Yes, there's another
level down. That's the couple that's just walking down the street,

(01:40:56):
comes out of the restaurant and they're jumped yeah, Yeah,
that's also happening, Brian Thomas.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
It is happening. It's happening a lot. And that's one
statistic I think that everyone can uniformally agree has gone
up a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:41:08):
Yes, which is.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Free that it has. But you're not a racist. The
caller who called in isn't a racist for talking about
these issues and then asserting and talking about what they
think the solutions are. Meaning one of them is broken homes.
Obviously parents, dad being involved. So we've got to do
a better job in that area. That's obviously one of

(01:41:32):
the solutions. Police officers and supporting cops, that's obviously one
of our solutions. But the reality of it is you
and I talking about it and highlighting it doesn't make
me and Uncle Tom, and it certainly doesn't make you
a race.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
I appreciate that just confirming everything I personally believe too.
I'm happy to get on and talk about it because
I know I'm not a racist. God bless you, Christopher Smith,
and look forward to next Monday at another event. Have
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very Happy Mondays here it being Monday Money Monday with
Brian James will be on the next segment, talk about
a variety of different topics, including an economists seeing a
lower recession risk, a stronger job growth, forecasters nudget up growth,
trimming inflation estimates as tariffs prove lower less costly than expected.
In April, Yeah, we've got this pesky tariffs entering in

(01:43:35):
the equation again with Donald Trump is seeing some additional
tariffs and lord knows how it's going to impact us.
I sort of feel like it hasn't really impacted us much.
I know there's some business out there, some business understaying
you talk, what are you talking about? It's killing me?
But more broadly, the gloom and doom projections that people
were screaming and whaling and gnashing teeth over just doesn't
seem to have manifested itself. Maybe we give Brian a

(01:43:55):
comment on that and what the tariffs might mean for
us going forward anyway, Will we get an interest rate cut.
That of course the dominant topic of conversation with Brian,
because we could all use some interest rate relief, most
notably those that are interested in buying a house. Anyway,
we'll get to that, and then we'll hear from Tex Fisher,
State Representative Fisher from here in the state of Ohio

(01:44:16):
on protecting your ability to have access to weed. Yes, marijuana,
and they're trying to change the law to make it
a little more difficult to get it and limit the
number of plants you can grow and put THHC limits
and that kind of thing. Tex Fisher says, no, he
is a Republican and he said, listen, the citizens of
the state of Ohio voted for this in overwhelming numbers.

(01:44:37):
Let it go, Let it sit. So text Fisher at
eight forty to talk about that. Who can stick around
me right back after the news.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
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Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
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Good to hear I'm from all Worth Financials, Brian James,
financial planner. He is talking about money matters. It is
money Monday time, Brian James, welcome back to the morning show.
Great to hear from you, my friend.

Speaker 10 (01:45:13):
Absolutely good to hear your voice too. It's a rainy
money Monday. So let's sit and tide and talk about
numbers and boring. Yeah, inflation and let's talk inflation. Let's
show whether or not it's going to impact the Fed's
decision to cut interest rates or not, as the case
may be. But the background of all this is the uh,
the Trump trade wars, the the tariffs he's been levying
or then taking off, as the case may be. It

(01:45:34):
seems to be like a constantly moving target, you know,
announces tariffs one day, and then he says, well, I'm
gonna pause him, give us time to negotiate or talk,
and you kind of a you never really quite have
a grip of which direction it's gonna go. But thus far,
I think the general consensus, at least from what I've
read no economist am I, is that thus far the
tariffs really haven't impacted you and me on a day

(01:45:56):
to day basis. The way everyone was so frightened that
it would Oh my god, the price are going to
go through the roof. Well that's not yet necessarily been
the case, has it. Yeah, things that make Jerome Powell
go hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
So we've seen this.

Speaker 10 (01:46:09):
We're now starting to see numbers coming out that were
far enough past the tariff announcements in the actual presence
of those tariffs. Remember, the announcement of the tariff and
the actual tariff are two very different things, right, as
we've learned. But June's CPI is forecasted to rise about
a third of a percent month over month for both
headline and core numbers. Remember those are the there's two
different CPI figures that we all like to look at.

(01:46:31):
This is the first real tangible impact we've seen from
this new round of Trump era tariffs in getting core
inflation near three percent annually, So it's kind of moving
away from the target the Fed wants to be in
the two percent range. That's what really makes Jerome Powell
happy in the morning. But we're not there. And well,
this is to your point. This is not terrible. This
is not a massive spike as some had prognosticated over

(01:46:53):
the past few months. But at the same time, up
is not down, and we're higher than the federal reserve once.
So at the moment, Jerome Powell has a bit of
a dilemma in terms of which which battle does he fight?
Is he going to fight inflation because this is also
coming alongside a slightly weakening labor market.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
So things do seem to be cooling off. This is
a tough one. I'm kind of glad that I don't
have I don't have.

Speaker 10 (01:47:14):
His job right now, because he's really got two forces
pulling in the opposite direction on him.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Well, I mean, are we entering like a nineteen seventies
kind of situation with stagflation?

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
No, I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:47:24):
I don't think we're there yet. You know, my crystal
ball is as foggy as anybody else's. But I don't
think this is this yet has all the same impacts
that full stagflation did. And the reason that we one
of the reasons I believe personally, is because there are
so many catalysts, Brian of ways that we make money
now compared to the seventies, And I'm just thinking of

(01:47:44):
things like, you know, the seventies, we didn't have a
whole lot of innovation compared to what we have now.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
It's good thinking of the last twenty years.

Speaker 10 (01:47:52):
We had the Internet come up, and we've had AI,
we've had a real estate spike, we had COVID that drove,
you know, the work from home technology and all this stuff.
Everything is a catalyst that somebody makes money off of.
So that stuff, I think currently knocking on wood furiously
is offsetting the downsides of what we're going through.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
That's interesting. I never really looked at it that way.
A lot of job opportunities that just didn't exist, and
we've created a whole new economy since the nineteen seventies,
which was I guess more rooted in a traditional I
guess more manufacturing type economy, and thus the problems we
faced in the seventies.

Speaker 10 (01:48:23):
Yeah, that's right, and there was just a different environment
in terms of how we recovered from things. So we
had spikes in oil prices, and of course a lot
of that too, was driven by President Nixon wanted to
drive interest rates down because he had an election coming
up and he wanted happy people putting their votes into
their ballot boxes, and so he pushed really hard for

(01:48:45):
low interest rates, and that spiked a lot of demand,
which resulted in Paul Volker coming to the rescue with
his Superman Cape in the late seventies early eighties, forcing
us into a pretty significant recession that then settled back
down into this two to three percent range that we
over the past forty years have determined as kind of
the right happy place to be, because over the last
forty years it hasn't been that crazy economically speaking when

(01:49:07):
you compare it to the nineteen seventies, So we've kind
of concluded that, okay, that must be the right place
to be balanced, but it takes some sacrifices to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
All right. So we have this point three percent predicted
figure for the consumer price it's supposed to come out
today core rate that strips out food and energy also
predicted to B point three, which makes it higher than
the fetid hope, because that would push it past the
two percent goal and closer to three percent if it
will remain on this trajectory. If I got that right,

(01:49:36):
that's correct, You're on the right path all right now.
Two lower interest rates would be to add fuel to
the fire of the inflationary numbers, at least that's what
they always say.

Speaker 10 (01:49:50):
Correct, that's correct, exactly, right, and that's what Trump wants.
Trump has been talking about rates aren't low enough. You
said that all the way through, and I honestly, I
think I'd wear a tinfoil hat some but especially when
it comes to politicians of every flavor, because everybody, at
the end of the day is just out for votes.
That's all because they got to stay in their jobs. Anyway,
I think it's a sexy thing to talk about interest rates.
We've all become fixated with interest rates because we've we've

(01:50:13):
fallen in love with the idea of refinancing our mortgages
over and over again, and we feel entitled to these
two to three percent mortgages. Therefore, if I'm a politician,
it makes sense for me to just talk about lower rates.
All you need is the SoundBite. I don't need to
get into the possible downsides of having rates too low
for too long. We saw that in the seventies. I'm
going to talk about that. I'm just going to trigger
people's memories that hey, I really liked when I could
refinance my mortgage over and over again, So that can

(01:50:35):
possibly win me votes. That's going to be the drum
that I beat.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Yeah, you know, and the other. The sort of the
side cul de sac on that point is if interest
rates were back down to three percent for mortgages, I
think it would probably exacerbate the already problem shortage of
housing we have. There'd be more people out there wanting
to buy, which of course drive the limited inventory prices up.

Speaker 10 (01:50:55):
Yeah, the people who would be happiest are the ones
who bought a house anyway, knowing full well that it's
not it's not as good of an environment as it
was over the past ten to fifteen years, but they
were sort of gambling that rates are going to come down,
I can refinance. Those people would be really, really happy.
It's the people who are furiously trying to build up
a down payment to buy their first home that are
going to take it right in the face because it's

(01:51:15):
just going to get slightly more more and more expensive
as it already is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Yeah, there's no end insight to that one now. And
back to inflation. The idea that Trump just announced over
the weekend, he's going to put a thirty percent terrifying
goods from the European Union and Mexico, and that kicks
in August first, obviously giving him a couple of week
winded and negotiate, which I presume that's what he wants.
That hasn't been factored into the situation, has it yet?

Speaker 6 (01:51:41):
No, not really.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
But at the same time, I think we're used to this, right.

Speaker 10 (01:51:44):
So remember back in April, the market hit an absolute bottom,
and it hit it hard in early April, and that
was the initial panic over, oh my gosh, these tariffs
are huge, one hundred and forty percent on stuff coming
out of China and we're changing him every other day.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
Panic, panic, panic.

Speaker 10 (01:51:58):
Well then we realize, okay, wait a minute, maybe we're
not going to actually tear off band aids like it
felt like we were going to. We're gonna kind of,
you know, put these thirty day delays and all that
kind of stuff on it. So the market is kind
of winking at all this. It's just kind of ignoring it,
you know whatever, Let me know when you're done and
you've decided, then the market will tell us what it's
going to do. So, you know, futures as we're sitting
here right now, are down a little bit for the morning,

(01:52:20):
but not nearly as much as they would have been
when these first tariff announcements came out months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
When we were first getting used to our new chaotic reality. Well,
and maybe that's because they didn't stick around for a
long time. That was like, you know, Trump woud announce
him and the market will react, and then he would say,
now I'm going to put a hold on those and
withdraw them and again for the purpose of negotiating. Sitting
in the negotiation table, it's all I guess can be
made of why they're on and they're off, and they're
on and they're off again. But you can't factor that in.

(01:52:48):
If you don't have any idea which direction the tariffs
are going to go, how do you forecast the future?
You just can't do it.

Speaker 10 (01:52:54):
You know, I picture, you know, being mugged in an alley.
If I jabb my knife at you, you're probably going
to be more willing to hand me over your wallet
without me having to do any damage. That's really all
we do, over and over and over again. It's just
a negotiation. As ugly as it sounds, it truly is.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
Well, I know to the Wall Street journalist said the economists,
economists are seeing a lower recession risk with stronger job growth.
That's Wall Street journal survey of the economists that they
talk to. So I mean it's like a mixed bag
of news and all this. Brian, I guess that's why
there's so much confusion in terms of which direction we're
going to go in terms of rate interest rates.

Speaker 10 (01:53:27):
Yeah, and this is very much a popcorn making time
for the rest of us who do not have to
make these decisions on that benefit or harm the rest
of the world. Again, I go back to Jerome Powell.
I don't know how the man sleeps at night. He's
he's in a world where you know, again, he's got
those two forces pulling an opposite direction, and he's the
one who has to decide which lever to pull and
which button to push. So I do not envy that
man right now.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
No, No, he's in quite a conunder. We'll talk more
about this with Brian James from all Worth Financial that
and I guess we also have some of the big,
beautiful tax breaks, maybe a little bit smaller than people
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Smallworth Financial. Going back to the conundrum and the problem
that Jerome Powell is in such a position you mentioned
it in this article just addresses it. The one who
provided me the Fed is too mandates. It can be
at odds, and there are odds now keep inflation in
check and supporting the labor market. So to keep inflation

(01:55:43):
in check if it's running too hot, they raise rates
to slow demand. Okay, when the labor market starts to
drop off, they cut rates to boost borrowing and spending
and thus in turn hiring. But you've got both going
on at the same time. You have a cooling labor
market as has been reflected, and you have a little
bit warmer inflation number as you mentioned. It was point
three or is reportedly going to be point three for

(01:56:04):
the month, higher than the two percent annual trajectory. So
it suggests, I mean, the answer seems to me to
be just don't touch the rates at all at this
point rather than lower them or increase them, which nobody
really is talking much about. Why would you even do
anything to him right now if you have no clear
vision of the future on this, Brian James, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:56:26):
At the moment, we're not at a point. Again, I'm
not Jerome Powell. I'm not responsible for this. So this
is purely you know, me sitting off on the sidelines
being an armchair fed chair. But so yeah, I don't
think we're at a point where we have to go
one direction or the other, you know, with the exception
of the pressure from the White House is enormous, of course,

(01:56:46):
because this has been, like I said, this has been
a campaign plank for President Trump for both of his
both of his terms, and when he was not in office,
he was still talking about it, right, always being that
rates need to go lower, lower, lower. We'll worry about
the rest later. So well, at the moment, I think
it's it's kind of it's relatively easy for fed chair
pal to not do anything about it because of those

(01:57:06):
things that could happen and the benefits would not outweigh
the risks. Currently, we're kind of at a bit of
a balance, and that's what we're seeing in the stock
and bond market. It's fairly knock on wood quiet time
right now, but later in the year, later in September.
If these trends continue, in other words, if the labor
market continues to weaken and we continue to have the
other things happening on the inflationary side, then he's probably

(01:57:28):
going to have to make a move in one direction
or another and lay as cards on the table. Well,
it's right now, we're kind of stableish, But if.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
That happens, in other words, inflation continues on its current
upward trajectory and the labor market is on the downward trajectory,
the likelihood that the rates are going to get lowered
is slim and none, because that'll have a profound impact
on inflation. At least that's what they say. Because and
this is the other thing I wanted to test and
find out what your perception is. The import taxes haven't
yet crept into the consumer prices because apparently companies were

(01:57:57):
front loading inventory because they anticipated these tariffs kicking in,
so they've pre ordered a whole bunch of stuff in
late two thousand and four. In twenty twenty five, but
it's pointed out Eventually they're gonna have to start passing
on higher prices to consumers because their inventories are gonna
run low and they're gonna have to start buying more
stuff in things that are gonna be subject to the tariff. So,
I mean, if anybody, if this is an accurate assessment

(01:58:19):
of the landscape, you know, prices are gonna go up.

Speaker 6 (01:58:22):
They're gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
There's really no other choice.

Speaker 10 (01:58:24):
You're right, because because again we're as I said earlier,
we've been calm over this reletive once we got over
the initial shock that we're gonna start talking about tariffs
very loudly. That was back in April, and then we
realized it's not gonna It wasn't It's not as scary
as it sounds, because we really haven't seen the impact yet.
Now we're riding the wave of prices that were locked
in as you just pointed out in Q four of

(01:58:45):
last year and Q one of this year in anticipation.
So things are still stable, but we're not truly in
a full tariff oriented reality that's coming over the next
several months. And if we if we really want to
follow what the President says in lower rates than that.
That is going to provide opportunities for businesses to make
more money, and they're going to They're definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Going to push that because it's what they do, it's,
you know, what they should do.

Speaker 10 (01:59:07):
But on the other hand, they are not the ones
responsible for keeping inflation in check. That falls to That
falls to the Fed chair and he's going to have
to make some tough decisions in terms of guiding us
through all that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
Well, he's just got to wait and see what the
terrorists do and if they even go into effect. Again,
thirty percent announce kicking in August first for quite a
number of our trading partners, and again the logical conclusion
is that we'll raise prices ergo lowering rates when a
time of rising prices is a recipe for rapid runaway inflation,
which Donald Trump mean Donald Trump campaigned on lowering inflation.

(01:59:39):
It's going to do the exact opposite of what he promised.
And as we run into you know, the next election cycle,
that's not going to be real. Good thing happened in
Brian James. If you're hopefully hoping for the best for
the Republicans anyway.

Speaker 10 (01:59:50):
And I'll hope for the best for all of us,
which is, if you find a way to get along,
then maybe we'd be we'd be in a better spot.
But yeah, and I think the other challenging thing is
fed chair Pal doesn't get to change interest rates today
and then make and then reverse the change tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (02:00:04):
Trump apparently does, so that's he's gonna Pal's gonna have
to wait until the dust truly truly settles on this,
because his decisions are much more permanent and long lasting
than a day and a half worth of tariffs.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Well, and I suppose in the background there's always the
notion that just threatening the thirty percent teriffs will at
least bring folks to the negotiation table and maybe we'll
end up with a better deal before anything kicks in
and ultimately impacts inflation. One can only pray that we
get that kind of resolution. Brian James, let's continue with
you and some of the big beautiful tax breaks a
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Representative TECHS Fisher.

Speaker 7 (02:02:03):
Tex.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Fisher represents District fifty nine. Happens to be the youngest
selected official in state of Ohio, at least from the
House of Representatives.

Speaker 5 (02:02:10):
Tex.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Good to have you on the fifty five cares in
Morning show. My friend, welcome, oh thank you for having
me twenty nine years old. Have I got that right? Yes, sir, Well,
it's an amazing accomplishment and congratulations on reaching that lofty
goal at such a young age. And you are fighting
to protect what we voted for and overwhelming numbers here
in the state of Ohio. That was an issue too.

(02:02:31):
November twenty three, fifty seven percent of Ohioans voted yes
to legalize recreational cannabis use in marijuana use in the
state of Ohio, and immediately it was actually mostly driven
by the Republicans side of the ledger, although you may
know some Democrats who are trying to change the law,
but this wasn't a constitutional amendment, so the legislative brands
can make changes to what we passed by overwhelming majority.

(02:02:54):
What are they trying to do? You're in opposition to
some of these changes. What are the proposals and what
types of changes are being thrown around in Columbus right now?

Speaker 3 (02:03:02):
Tex Yeah, I think so the bill has made admittedly
a lot of progress, I think in the right direction.
So we're talking about a Senate Bill fifty six. I
was introduced at the beginning of the year and moved
pretty quickly through the Senate, and then as I got
to the House, a lot of changes have been made.
So I still have not seen the most up to
date version of the bill, but I do know that

(02:03:25):
it has moved in a pretty significantly positive direction in
terms of respecting the world of voters. And I think
the goal of what myself and some of the other
folks working on this is we really want this to
be more of an implementation of issue too, because there
are a lot of language in the battle initiative was
kind of insufficient.

Speaker 4 (02:03:42):
It was a little bit vague.

Speaker 3 (02:03:43):
It didn't give I think the proper guardrails to the
administrative folks at the Division of Cannabis Control to really
implement the legal cannabis market in a way that makes
sense in this pro business. So that's what I'm looking for.
I think it's making a lot of progress in that direction,
but ultimately we weren't entirely there. I think there are
definitely some folks that want to see things more restricted,

(02:04:03):
and I certainly you know, understand where they're coming from,
but that's not what the people voted for. So I
think our job is to try to find the right
balance of making sure we're protecting the intent of what
the voters passed an issue too, while also making it
a little bit easier for those folks to do business,
and also addressing the hemp issue in a smart and
reasonable way, because I think that was another big sticking
point for myself and some other folks on the Republican

(02:04:25):
side of the legislature that we want to make sure
that whatever we do on these is the right thing
to do, and not just passing something so we can
say we passed something and then end up just you know,
and ending up with a constitutional amendment that we can't change,
which is just going to waste a whole lot of
everyone's time and money. And I think we can do
this the right way and so respectable of the voters.

Speaker 1 (02:04:43):
Well, now, is there a division or like a distinction
being drawn between hemp and marijuana? Is that one of
the things that's being bandied about and argued over because
you know, hemp, to me is is just an industrial product.
You can't get high on it. And I remember one
politician saying those self respecting dope head would even be
caught smoking hemp. I mean, it's an exercise and futility
to get high off of it. So but it has

(02:05:05):
great industrial You can make any literally anything out of it,
clothing and play plastics, and make wood products out of it.
So there's a lot of industrial uses for it. I
mean that is even is there even a need to
regulate it just because it looks like marijuana? I mean,
what's the story on hamp relative to marijuana? Text?

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
So the issue there is so familiar with like the
Delta eight or the types of intoxicating THHC products which
are hemp derived. Sometimes in some cases they're synthesized you know,
there are some fairly intoxicating products that are very accessible
to get right now in gas station's, convenience stores, okay
and the like.

Speaker 1 (02:05:41):
So they're concentrating, they're concentrating the low level hamp. It's
like less than three percent I suppose in hemp, and
they're taking that and concentrating it into something that is
well obviously much more capable of getting someone intoxicated.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
Correct, So that under the Farm Bill passed several years
ago in DC, it actually legalized all these different hemp
products with the standard you know, you can't have more
total THHC than point zero three percent by dry weight.
You know, there are a lot of technicalities technicalities involved
in that. But the issue that we're seeing is there
are intoxicating products that are readily readily available, but under

(02:06:19):
federal law, the recreational adult use cannabis products and any
of these intoxicating hemp drive products are two totally different products.
So these are federally legal, and I think we all
agree there are issues. We don't want kids being able
to walk into a gas station and buy like a
THHD evate, But I think some of the proposals to
address that, we're also kind of an over correction and

(02:06:41):
when it end up harming a lot of small businesses
that do want to play by the roles and accept
that there is a need for regulation and some quality
controls and to make sure kids aren't getting these things.
But finding the right balance between address in the safety
issue and also not putting a whole lot of people.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
Out of business.

Speaker 3 (02:06:54):
That's that's another another area where it's easier said than done.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
Well, I'll tell you what text fecialist. Pause, if you
don't mind, I'll hold you over and bring you back
to talk a little bit more about what's being proposed
and why you know in some cases you're against it
or in favor of it more with representative at tex Fisher.
We'll take a break care but back in just a
few brief few minutes. Hang in.

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Hey forty nine coming to an eight fifty fifty five
KRCD talk station. Greg Thomas with represented a text fissure
here from the State of Ohio Republican at a District
fifty nine with some ideas about protecting our rights to
access marijuana. Pursuing to the twenty twenty three issue, two
fifty seven percent of US voted to legalize marijuana. One
of the things that sounds like they're going back to

(02:08:41):
our hemp discussion, the idea that yeah, hemp is hamp
and you can't get high on it, but they, you know,
they back behind the scenes, they can process this into
something that is intoxicating, and it's being sold in you know,
places outside of licensed marijuana dispensaries. You know, you got
your state licensed you know shops, and then you got
your grocery stores, your smoke shops and all that. Isn't
there an age limit already in place? Text fis sure

(02:09:04):
that prevents young people from buying it, assuming that the
various shops that it's sold at are karting or otherwise
following the law.

Speaker 4 (02:09:14):
So not necessarily.

Speaker 7 (02:09:15):
So.

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
The issue that we're dealing with here and is this
is just it's sort of a wild West right now. Yeah,
And I think that's that's an area of cause, an
area of concern for pretty much everybody across the aisle.
The issue is you know, are we going to overregulate
these products to the point where you put a lot
of people out of business? Because of course, like any industry,
there are bad actors in this space, but there are
also a lot of good people that are following the law,

(02:09:37):
that are invested a lot of money just trying to
make a living. And I think whatever we need to
do needs to try to strike the appropriate balance of
safety and also being pro business and respecting the fact
that if we were to ban these products at the
state level in Ohio, put these people in Ohio out
of business. People just go on the internet by the
exact same stuff and we'd have no ability to control it,
no ability to test it, to regulate it. So it's,

(02:09:58):
you know, it's the reality of you know, we may
not like something, or some folks may not like something,
but if they can get it, why don't we just
accept that we want to push them into a market.
Kind of similar to the conversation about legalizing marijuana is
if people were getting, buying, smoking, and jesting marijuana before
it was legal, we all understand that, but now that
we have a legal market, I think they have a
lot of good people in that space that are making
sure these products are as safe as they can be

(02:10:19):
and have a lot of quality controls and safety controls,
And I think that's the appropriate balance mean to try
to find is the reality of people get these stuff,
this stuff on the internet. But whatever we do, we
should also encourage people to buy Ohio based products and
support Ohio hemp farmers.

Speaker 1 (02:10:33):
Yeah. And if there's a reason to buy an Ohio
based product, for example, it's been tests that it doesn't
have any you know, funguses or things growing in it,
and it is safe. I guess maybe part of this
conversation about this Delta eight which is derived from this
low level THC hemp, is is it the same thing
as marijuana in terms of the dangers or harm it
might present? Is that a separate discussion that's going on

(02:10:55):
is it's sort of a horse of a different color
as compared to marijuana and the intoxicating THHD marijuana.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
Yeah, I think so. And I think the big the
big issue we have is quality control. And I think
that there is there's some folks in the marijuana industry,
and I think their right to believe this is that
there are some of these retailers and not necessarily the
faults of the retailers. So some of these producers that
are selling these products labeled as Delta eight and they're
just not there's probably excess excess marijuana from another state

(02:11:23):
that they process and pass off because they can sell
it to a much larger market outside of dispensaries. So
I think number one something that we need to do
is make sure that whatever testing regime we include for
these tent products is to be able to ensure that
these are in fact have derived THHD products and not
marijuana prepackaged or a different label. So that's one of
the things that I've been pushing for. I don't think

(02:11:45):
there's a whole lot of opposition of that. It's just
a matter of, you know, what does the retail regime
look like and how burdens them is this regular regime
going to be and you know, we still want to
make sure that we're allowing these people to stay in
business with just you know, the common sense guardrails we
all agree on. Kids should be able to buy it,
you know, maybe you shouldn't be able to go into
a gas station and buy a pre roll joint or
something and things like that. Maybe that's the starting point

(02:12:08):
and the common ground that we all have. But there's
a lot more to it and secate tricky issue.

Speaker 1 (02:12:12):
So much and so much more as being learned each
and every day about marijuana it's impact on society. Is
it really less harmful than alcohol? Because every time we
have a discussion like this, text Fisher, I just kept
thinking of alcohol. Hell, you can go literally anywhere and
not literally, but there's beer is for sale, wine is
for sale all over the place. They do it in
convenience stores, they do it in you know, liquor stores.

(02:12:33):
It's like, well, if you can manage, that's why is
this so extra complicated? It doesn't seem like it should be.
I got a real quick for part coming to day,
text Fisher. The tax revenue was specifically defined and broken
up to four different categories. Where the money goes, right,
Social Equity Fund, you know, to help people disproportionately impacted

(02:12:53):
by marijuana laws, to host cities that have dispensaries, the
state's Mental and Addiction Service Department, and three percent goes
to the state's Cannabis Control Department. Is there an effort
to change that where the tax dollars the generated dollars
go or is that going to stay the way it
is in the law.

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
So the tax dollar, the tax dollar provisions, that was
another point of contention. I think the original bill as
introduced in the Senate would have removed any share for
local governments to the local communities that host these dispensaries,
to remove their stake in their tax revenue. So while
the rest of the categories this did get resolved in

(02:13:31):
the budget, we were thankfully able to retain that thirty
six percent for the host communities in perpetuity in the
operating budget, which was a big win for I think
a lot of us in the House that really felt
strongly that we shouldn't be taking these dollars away from
these local communities, and a lot of time and a
lot of senses, these folks agreed to have the dispensaries
on the sole condition of, well, we're going to get

(02:13:52):
revenue and that's going to be enough for us to
put the squad car or you know, another hire another firefighter,
real important stuff. But we were able to preserve that
the rest of the money moving forward will be just
directed in the state general revenue find but the local
dollars that was a big point of contention, and that
was another thing that I was fighting for and really
grateful a lot of the other folks in the house
we're able to get that done for us.

Speaker 1 (02:14:12):
Date reversenter tex Fisher. That makes perfect sense. Hey, the
reason we have a dispensary in our neighborhood is because
we were promised thirty six percent of the revenue. Soh yes,
appreciate you moving to protect that one. The text has
been having it's been great having on the show. And
to the extent you make any further progress or have
more developments on this, you have an welcome spot here
on the fifty five Cars Morning Show, So keep up
the great work. Tax Fisher. It's been good having you
on the show.

Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:34):
Thank you, Thank you, sir. Take fifty six fifty five
Krcity Talk Station Smith Event. When you can't listen live,
go to fifty five cars dot com to the podcast.
We talked with Brian James Money Monday, the tariffs and
the inflation and what Jerome Powell gonna do. He's in
a bit of an undrum. Well's my conversation there with
Tex Fisher. Thank you Sean Mann for covering for the
vacationing Joe's director today. Brother, I appreciate the work that

(02:14:56):
you did today. Folks, I hope you have a wonderful day.
Tune in tomorrow for the Daniel Davis Deep Die and
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