55KRC Monday Show - Gary Jeff in for Brian Thomas

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It is Monday, July fifth,twenty twenty four. I'm Gary Jeff walking
from Brian Thomas on this day afterIndependence Day. I think it's Independence Week,
though in fact I think it oughtto be Independence month because the heart
of America is still beat. HappyBirthday, Huey Lewis, New York is
everything they say and do face saturwhere else, Tim if you're up,

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familiar face all that a quarter tofreeze to make them amount of music you
with a love style, but it'sstill that same old f be riddle.
The billy really doesn't well kick it, they say, the horrors and what

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I see got the maybeam the hardrock and road Austin loved, loved,
loved, loved, no counting aboutfive minutes after five o'clock on this Friday
morning. Great to be with you, and it's great to celebrate another day

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for another day. This great countryof ours, that's right, I said,
This great country of ours, thisexceptional place filled with exceptional people who
achieve in spite sometimes of the government. That's what it was all about,

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was overcoming the government and the tyrannyof King George two hundred and forty eight
years ago. You say you wanta revolution, Well maybe not so fast.
Are we at that point where weneed another one? As Thomas Jefferson
suggested that we might in a healthydemocracy. What is the status of the

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USA? And I think it mattersmore of what the status of the country
is in your heart than what yousee on TV or on your phone daily
and the political wars that are continuallybeing fought with the people that the politicians

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are supposedly working for, caught inthe middle like you and me. Yeah,
I think this is still a countrywhere we will do anything to help
anyone at any given moment. Andyet we all know how to mind our

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own business from time to time.The corporations, the federal government maybe not
so much. But this morning weare going to kind of take stock,
and I have some brilliant people into speak on what America is and what
it still can be, and howimportant it is to rediscover this country's independence,

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which we celebrated yesterday and should reallycelebrate the entire month long. Last
month was Pride month. This shouldbe Pride in the USA month, Pride
in America month. I'm declaring it. So anyway, we will get started
with all of that. July fifth, seventeen seventy six. John Hancock President,

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you know the guy with the bigsignature at the bottom of that famous
document, President of the Continental Congress, dispatches the first of dunlaps broadsides of
the Declaration of Independence to the legislaturesof New Jersey and Delaware and what are
broad well printed copies. They're estimatedto be some two hundred original copies of

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the Declaration. They would not getprinted in the paper until July sixth,
when the Philadelphia Examiner is the firstknown newspaper to print a copy of the
Declaration of Independence, the signers pledgingtheir lives, their honor, their fortune,

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their sacred honor, and their fortunesto the cause of independence from Great
Britain. My friend Scott Powell willjoin us in just a moment, the
author of Rediscovering America on Rediscovering thefourth of July, as we still party
on the fifth on fifty five KRC, the talk station. In this week's

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Marketers Report, Dana Nusbaum, executiveby it is independent this week. That's
right, a whole week. Infact, I think the whole month,
and I mentioned this at the topof the show, should be American pride
month. July should be proud tobe an American month. And it all

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started with a bunch of men whopledged everything, their lives are sacred,
honor their fortunes to this vision ofan independent nation under God, with God's
providence driving it. And as werenew that American spirit this week and this

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month of July, it's time torediscover our independence, rediscover the fourth of
July. And to help us dothat is our friend, the author of
Rediscovering America, which is a greatcollection of stories about our traditions and our
holidays that we observe in this country, the one and only Scott Powell.

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How you doing, Scott? Verywell? Gary Jeffets a really a pleasure
and an all to be with youand your audience. Yep, it's always
great to have you. You haveso many wonderful thoughts. And this piece
that we're going to talk about tonightpublished in the Federalists if people want to
explore it even further, because wehave limited time obviously in this venue to

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get your thoughts on rediscovering the fourthof July. So first and foremost,
I'm just going to let you gobecause you're great at that and you can
eloquate exactly what you wrote in thepiece and tell us why this holiday particularly,
it's just so darned important to thewhole ball of wax. Oh,

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it certainly is. And let mesay at the outset to those listening that
might be a bit demoralized. Theysee what's going on in their country with
their government, and it's a pictureof declining morality, even immorality, its

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abusive. It's it's third world politicswhere typically, you know, the the
victor of the temporary victor of thesystem jails his opponent. I mean,
that's what we see going on inour great country right now, where the
Democrats want to put Donald Trump injail. This is this, this is

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a third world regime right now.So I sympathize with all of you who
feel confused and demoralized by that.And that's why it's so important to really
restore, rediscover what how our countrywas founded and what those principles were,

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how they how they work to makeus the great superpower and not just an
economic superpower, but we were themoral example to the world right up into
uh, you know, the midtwentieth century. We have lost that.
So I understand people that that justfeel demoralized. So let's let's talk about

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where where we are. You know, we we are a blessed nation,
and and we're blessed because we havethese great holidays, and the July fourth
Independence Day is one of them.But I would remind everyone that this that
this holiday has earth shaking significance.Earth shaking if and if more people understood

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that today's people, contemporary people,they understood that that they are both the
true heirs and the protectors of thebirth of freedom in the world, I
think July fourth celebrations might take on, you know, a new dimension and
you know, potentially igniting Americans fromall walks of life to think about sacrificing

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more time and resources and joining theranks of the growing patriot movement dedicated to
saving America's freedom at this critical time, because we are on the verge of
losing our freedom. So let's makeJuly fourth not just a you know,
a one time celebration, but acommitment to saving our country. Indeed,

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Amen, well, Ronald Reagan remindedus in the nineteen eighties, Yes,
sure, this was a shining cityon the hill, this country, and
we were, as you mentioned,there in your opening monologue. This was
not only a success and a greatexperiment in freedom and enterprise and capitalism,

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but also a moral example to therest of the world. And that is
absolutely somewhat lost. Yeah, goahead, it certainly has. Yeah,
I remind everybody that it was.You know. Thomas Jefferson, of course
champion freedom in his running of theDeclaration of Independence, and he called America
the world's best hope. Abraham Lincoln, whose costs became expanded freedom by abolishing

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slavery, called America quote the lastbest hope of earth. And in the
twentieth century, President Reagan declared thatif we lose freedom here, there is
no place to escape to. Thisis the last stand on earth, and
that's where we are today. Letme share with everyone how unique America really

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is. The fact is that everyother nation prior to the United States came
into being from an evolution of tribesor clans, royalty and blood lineage,
inevitabilities of language, culture, tradition, geography, or actually just from the
results of war where the victors carveup the vanquished. But America is the

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only nation in human history, theonly nation in human history that was completely
born of noble and deeply spiritual principles, One that all men were created with
equal value, that they been givenby God certain rights that cannot be taken
away from any by any man orany earthly authority, and that those unalienable

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rights combine to create and protect thething that we call freedom in life.
And that has meant that Americans werefree to pursue happiness, free to worship
God, free to speak publicly oftheir views, and of course free to
choose their leaders. That is whatmade America unique and great. And to

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the extent we've lost some of that, we have to fight very hard to
recapture and regain it because it iswho we are as Americans. And unfortunately,
young people who've gone through the governmentschool system really they don't have much
appreciation for our heritage because unfortunately theschool system has sort of been captured by

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the dark forces that want to transformour country into something that it's not.
Transform our country into a you know, into a socialist type system that answers
to a global authority, you know, a new organization, if you will,
a new world order, a newglobalist world order. This is what

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the enemies of America want to accomplish. Make no mistake about it. The
enemies that are on the march inAmerica want to destroy our system and want
to merge us into a global systemwhere population would be greatly reduced. That
means that a lot of people aregoing to be killed, and they will
use any means, whether it's vaccinations, or it's poisoning the food, or

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it's controlling the water. They willuse any means to carry out their goal.
Oh, they're just just today Ireceived a post talking about the UN
and and how the UN. Someonefrom the UN says a call of humanity

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is the only solution for the globe. They've been talking people like Bill Gates
and that the world's population really oughtto be around five hundred million. Let's
work to get there. So it'snot about life, it's not about freedom,
it's about control, and it's aboutliterally a death cult that we're facing

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that we're up against. You're absolutelyright. I'm so glad to if you
understand that clearly, and you can'trepeat it too often to your audience,
because people really need to understand thatwe need to get off the sidelines and
get engaged, and we all are. Paul Revere's and we all can give
a little bit of time. Imean, Charlie Kirk's got a wonderful national

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organization. If you don't know whatto do, find the nearest chapter of
Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA, givehim a call, tell them that you're
willing to volunteer an hour or two, and you know, ask them what
you can do. Yep. Absolutely, We're talking with Scott Powell its Independence
Week and I can't think of abetter person to help us rediscover the fourth

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of July than our guest, ScottPowell. We are talking about rediscovering America
on this Independence Week in twenty twentyfour, Gary Jeff Walker, and once
again Scott Powell rejoins us as werediscover the fourth of July and talk about
how important the significance of what thesepeople did that we celebrate and what they

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brought forth on this continent that wecelebrate and our heritage. Really and you
say, and I agree with you, Scott, that this is definitely the
providence of God. None of thishappens without the hand of God on this
nation. Oh yeah, it's amazing. And I'll share a story a story
with anyway. But we feel thatyou know, the odds are against us

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today, it seems that way,but we can take heart and resolve from
our history. You know, inthe first few years of the War of
Independence, George Washington's undertrained, underequipped, an underfunded Continental Army was a
half the size of the highly trained, professional British Army and their allied German
Hisitsian mercenary troops. But the navalmismatch was even greater. The Continental Navy

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had about twenty five converted merchant ships, while the British naval power was more
than ten times greater, with twohundred and seventy dedicated warships. And when
you have a dedicated warship, ittypically in those days was three decks of
cannons on each side of the warship, whereas the American the Continental Navy converted

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merchant ships would have, you know, no cannons on the sides because they
were designed as merchant ships, sothey might have cannons on the top deck
and that was it. So wewere totally, uh, you know,
outgunned, outclassed by numbers in botharmies and navy, and things looked very
grim for the American cause. However, the courage determination and godly faith of

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our founders made all the difference.And I always want to tell people the
summer year about the Last Sentence,remind them of the Last Sentence and the
Declaration of Independence, which which appearsbefore space allocated for the signatures. And
what it says is that the founderssupported the declaration with a firm reliance on

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the protections of divine providence, andthey mutually pledged to each other their lives,
their fortunes, and their sacred honor. Yep. Remarkable. And you
know, and George Washington, howdid he prevail against the overwhelming odds of
the of the greatest military power inthe world. It was an impossible impossibility.

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So to understand that, we bestgo back to seventeen fifty five,
more than twenty years before the RevolutionaryWar, when George Washington was serving in
the British in the British Army,he was trained and he was raised up

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as a junior officer. He wastwenty two years old. And at that
time the British decided they were goingto retake Fort Duquine up in Pittsburgh.
So they were marching up there.And this was in the time of the
French and Indian War, and itwas really French, Indian and British war,
to tell you the truth. Therewas territorial dispute going on and it

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was a garrison of about fourteen hundredtroops. Washington was the junior most officer.
He was a colonel, only twentytwo years old. The British garrison
was ambushed in an open area,open field with trees on both sides,
and the Indian sharpshooters began taking downall the Americans, and they were told,

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you shoot the officers and horseback first, because if we can eliminate,
if we can kill the officers,then we can capture everybody. So one
by one all those officers went down, all those British officers, but there
was one they couldn't seem to hit. And he was a big man.
He was six foot three. Hewas quite a great horseman, and try

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as they would to train their rifleson him and kill him, they couldn't
take him down. They did shootout two of his horses, and the
person I'm speaking about is George Washington. George Washington lost two horses from those
sharpshooters who were shooting at him,but hit the horses instead, and so
finally Washington is on his third horseand he is the last officer, and

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he organizes the retreat. And itwas a successful retreat. Of course,
they lost so many people, probablymore than seven hundred were lost out of
the fourteen fifteen hundred. And thatevening, when Washington took off his uniform,
he found that he had four bulletholes through his uniform, four separate
bullet holes. And he realized thatGod had protected him, that he was

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alive because of God's protection. Andwe know this is a true story because
Washington wrote his brother and he describedthe whole thing, and he knew that
he had God's protection. So whentwenty one years later he was made commander
in chief of the Continental Army thatwas underfunded, under equipped, totally outnumbered

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by the British, he had thatsame understanding that he would be protected by
God. So he always led thetroops from the front on his horse.
But he was He never suffered anywounds. You know, when you're in
the front, you're more likely tobe taken out. But Washington, he
was a protective man, and heinspired the courage amongst his troops that was

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incredible. So even though he lostmore, you know, he lost more
battles than he won in the sixthYear War of Independence, he persisted and
the qualities that he had included,you know, he had first and foremost
was his faith in God, buthad he had courage and persistence. Those

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three qualities combined together to keep histroops faithful and still fighting. And finally
when God arranged, it was God'sprovidence that arranged the Yorktown situation which enabled
him to win a victory. Thefinal victory was in seventeen eighty one in
Yorktown where the British surrendered and theydecided, you know, they'd had enough,

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that Washington was never going to giveup, and they just better pack
their bags and go back to GreatBritain. So that was the end of
the Revolutionary War. And it wasall accomplished by God's providence, by courage,
faith and persistence. And it's justa great story of how we began
and our country was formed with Godlyideals. You know, the Declaration was

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was sort of transcribed into a constitutionthat still basically had the vision of the
Declaration encapsulated in a governmental form,and this enabled our country to prosper and
grow and become a superpower in economicsuperpower in less than two hundred years,
the number one superpower. And thiswas all due to God's hand on America.

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But more importantly than becoming an economicsuperpower, America was a moral superpower.
Well, you know, it waslike no other country in the world.
And you know, we're reminded inProverbs that righteousness exalts inn, but
sin is a disgrace to any people. And we were a righteous and moral

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nation right up into the mid twentiethcentury. But when we took prayer out
of school and we legalized abortion,and then it's gone on from there.
Well, by the way, Scott, there are all kinds of reasons for
us to hold out hope, yes, and number one is our faith in
God, as you've mentioned, Butthere were little things that are happening all

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the time. The Ten Commandments havebeen restored to Louisiana public schools by law.
Did you know that? I didn'tknow that? And helujah, hallelujah.
And you mentioned you mentioned the signersof the Declaration of Independence real quickly
before we head out of here,and talking to Scott Powell, rediscovering the
Fourth of July. Rediscovering America isthe book that you ought to own if

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you care about this country. FiveSigners were captured by the British, tortured
before they killed them, Twelve hadtheir homes ransacked and burned, Two lost
their sons in the Revolutionary Army,another two had sons captured. Nine of
the fifty six Signers fought and diedfrom wounds of hardship of the Revolutionary War.

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So when they pledged their lives,their fortunes, and their sacred honor,
they meant it. And that's thething. There was a great authenticity
to what they were doing as well. They believed in it, they had
faith that they could do it,and they had the courage to follow it
through. And we need all threeof those today to rediscover the fourth of

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July in this country. I believewe do. We do. You know
what I say in the article isthat you know everyone can relate to the
nightmare of their house burning down,you know, catching on fire, and
a prompts immediate response you drop everythingand you go to save your loved ones.
Well, America has been set onfire to destroy our freedom, and

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time that everyone gets involved to saveour home and our freedom. So let's
make this Fourth of July celebration afounding of our founding ideals, but also
a time of renewed commitment to engageand wake up everyone that we know.
We're all in the position of PaulRevere now, and it's time to resist
the creeping tyranny and the political corruptionand reclaim sovereignty over our precious possession.

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And this is a precious position ofour freedom and rights. And just as
Washington succeeded against impossible odds by persistence, faith courage, we too will prevail.
Scott Powell, thank you so much, God bless you and the happy
fourth of July. This week,Happy fourth of July to you, Gary,
Jeff fifty five Krcara Robrich, foryou and me five thirty nine on

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this Friday, July fifth, Gary, Jeff Walker, and for Brian Thomas.
Now, not only do we markour Namean's Declaration of Independence this week,
going back now two hundred and fortyeight years. That's a lot of
candles on one cake called the FireMarshal, but we also have several other

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historical references that relate to this weekin American history, and one of them
is some of the darkest days whenour resolve was tested like never before.
Now I'm not talking about Joe Bidenin a debate. I mean it was
really tested. The Civil War,the end of slavery in this country,

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and the Battle of Gettysburg July firstthrough the third of eighteen sixty three,
the single bloodiest encounter of the singlebloodiest, most awful war this country has
ever fought against each other. ByJuly fifth of eighteen sixty three, all

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that was left at Gettysburg were theremnants of the killing field. That was
just a couple of days before ConfederateUnion. They were all united because they
were all dead laying there on whatis now Hallowed Ground. And I got

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an interesting email, interesting to me. You decide if it's interesting to you
or not when you hear me talkabout it from my friend Ron Steamen.
I guess it's Steamen or Steamen ste m E N. I don't know
how he pronounces it. That's whatthey always tell you in this business.
Get the name right, at least. But he talked about listening to some

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Gettysburg podcasts about those July bats daysof eighteen sixty three. He found an
additional heroic obscure post war story aboutthe hero of Little round Top. That
hero is named Colonel Joshua Chamberlain.He says, this is almost Peter Bronson

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level stuff, and that's high calibercompliment because Peter is the best at this
kind of material. His heroism laterrecognized with the Medal of Honor awarded to
him while still alive at the agewell, jeez, I don't know how
old he was, but this wasan eighteen ninety three, thirty years after

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Gettysburg. He survived Gettysburg, andone that is just a miracle in and
of itself. Surviving Gettysburg, hesaved the Union left flank at Gettysburg,
was shot through the hip at Petersburga year later in eighteen sixty four,
and presume mortally wounded, so thatGrant immediately granted him a battlefield promotion to

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Brevett major general. He survived andwas given he survived the mortal wound that
he received in eighteen sixty four atPetersburg, and was given the high honor
of accepting the field surrender of theConfederates at Appomatics. So he was there.
He got to be the one wherethe officers and the troops in the

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field. The Confederates surrendered to himat Appomattox. He was a war hero,
divinity, a degreed and a fluentin nine language. Then Major General
Chamberlain had one more heroic stan inwhat was called the Main Rebellion of eighteen
eighty And basically what he did wasselflessly interceded in a near insurrection to ensure

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the integrity and stability of Mainz governmentin eighteen eighty. So even at that
late stage of his career, hewas helping to save lives and save face
and save democracy. And the writerwho sent me this goes on has said,
it's hard to imagine that Democrats ineighteen eighty wrangled an election in nullified

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votes? Who have ever thought ofthat? Somehow the main judicial system overrode
the political shananigans and rightfully restored theRepublicans. Joshua Chamberlain was a true hero
in many many ways, and asRon writes, just one reason why we
are still sort of free to celebrateour independence from all forms of tyranny.

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He rights have a great fourth.Well, we're having a great fifth this
morning too. And as someone who'shad a hard time passing up great fifths.
I'm going to enjoy it. It'sfive point forty four. We've got
guests in the studio which we willget to in good due time, and
that time is nigh. Bran Eboltscome in. Westside Gym is here and

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you can join in the party.Two five, one, three, seven,
four, nine, fifty five hundredif you want to chime in on
how you feel about Independence Week.See, it's not just Independence Day,
It's not just the fourth of Julyfor me, and it's been like this
for several years now. It's it'sat least deserving of a week, if

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not an entire month. Pride month, Pride in America month is what I
mean. And all the colors ofthe rainbow can enjoy that, but specifically
the red, the white, andthe blue. It's five forty five.
Back after a break on fifty fiveKRC, the talk station fifty five KRC

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and iHeartRadio Station, the exclusive audiohome mon NBC's coverage of the twenty twenty
four Paris Olympics and the rest ofthe day off. I mean, not
me, but people who have PTOand stuff like that. I just have
PTSD. No, Actually that's falsevalor. I don't have PTSD yet,

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but I haven't gotten through this showyet Gary Jeff Walker for Brian Thomas coming
up on ten minutes till the topof the hour, and this among other
milestones. July fifth is the datein nineteen ninety six when Dolly the Sheep,
the first mammal clone from an adultsomatic cell by scientists, was born.

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We started playing God with sheep onthis day in nineteen ninety six.
We should be so proud. Also, this is a day in eighteen eleven
you may remember that Venezuela became thefirst South American country to declare its independence
from Spain. It was really coolwhat happened if you think about it in
context of world history, when wedeclared our independence and took on the greatest

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power in the world, Britain andKing George and all those battleships that Scott
Powell was talking about, and youknow, the well trained military. I
mean, the British had been cleaningpeople's clocks globally for a couple of centuries.
At this point, they were thetop. They were King Kong,

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they were beating their chest all overthe world, and we took them on
and decided to clare our independence.She knows how quickly France had a revolution
and declared its independence from a kingand countries like Venezuela. Within twenty five
to thirty years of the United Statesdeclaration of independence and breaking away from a

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tyrannical power, it started happening allover the world. I mean, not
enough, but it did. Itset off a chain of events like dominoes
that reverberated for the next twenty fiveto thirty years in different places around the
globe. I mean, and Ithink that was all due to being inspired

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by what the colonists had done herein this country. Of course, the
colonists don't always have the best interestin hearts. Five shot. I was
informed by west Side Jim in thecity limits of Cincinnati last night. I

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didn't even know where South Cumminsville was. The bullets found a home there,
and that's sad. But I mean, that's the other thing we get focused
on the news. The news isalways bad because most of the time good

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things happen. Most of the time, Americans are busy helping one another.
Most of the time, people arebeing nice to each other, courteous,
showing each other respect, I hearabout the problems with America is such a
racist country, and I just don'tsee it. I deal with all kinds

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of people all the time, andI just don't see it this division by
skin color or pigmentation or ethnicity thatis touted all the time by people who
would rather see us divided than unitedfor their own purposes, whatever they may
be. And yeah, I knowthere are shootings in Cincinnati. I'm not

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gonna be Pollyanna about this and saythere is not a crime problem, because
there obviously is. But that's notthe way most of us live our lives
on a day to day basis.It's terrible when one of us who aren't
participating in the mayhem gets caught upin the middle of it as an innocent

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bystander, and there is collateral damagefrom crime, there's no question, But
it is not the day to dayof most people in this country. It's
really not as much as the newswould focus you and focus your eyes on
all the horrible things, because that'swhat news is. News is not.

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Do you ever see, outside ofa maybe a one off spot on a
local TV news channel or here inthe radio, the good that is done
by people like the Help Squad andBrian Eybold. Do you see that on
the news every night? And they'reconstantly trying to help people and that's what

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they do. But that's not news. News is somebody getting shot in South
Kemmensville. News is somebody getting hitby a car. News is horrible stuff,
but it's not what usually happens.That's why it's news. If they
reported the good stuff, they justbe reporting normal. They could call it

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the normal news. Here it isthe normal news. Millennial helps an old
lady across the street, pays forher coffee. News is millennial beats up
an old lady going across the streetand takes her coffee. But that doesn't

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usually happen. The good stuff usuallydoes. Let's just try to keep our
let's try and keep ourselves and ourneighbors out of the news this week,
should we? I think so?It's five minutes away. We will talk
to west Side Jim and Brian Eyeboldright after the top of the hour at

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six o'clock on this fifth of Julytwenty twenty four, Gary Jeff and for
Brian on fifty five KRC, thetalk station. Your twenty twenty four election
Headquarters. Every voter should be askingwhether America can survive four more years of
fifty five KRC the talk station.Hey, if you're listening to me,

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Hey, it's Independence Week in America. The fifth of July and Gary Jeff
Walker joined in the studio for thishalf hour our old friend Westside Jim good
morning, and Brian Eyebold of theHelp Squad. Yeah, thank you for
having me. Appreciate it. Wearinga shirt that says good trouble that's me.

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Definitely me. So you guys aretaking breaks from your filming, your
massive movie that you've been making outthe West Siders. Yes, we are.
You're on hiatus. We are donefilming and we're in the editing process.
Just about done. Okay, yes, So when do we get to
see Do you have a projected dateof the premiere of The West Sider to

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shoot four? Probably I say Augustfirst. Well that's ambitious. Yes,
yes, I'm ambitious. Some peoplefirst, some people would typify you in
other ways. I'm sure they would. But Jimmy, what's going on?
And Jim was regaling us with thestory how he bought an old lady breakfast

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and at his age, I waswondering how old that lady was. Probably
one hundred and five. What doyou mean old lady? What's old to
you? Jim? Oh boy,that's old of me is seventy two,
since I'm seventy one. There yougo, just that one's supposed to be
told it was anonymous. It justmade me feel good by buying somebody breakfast
the second that you told me andBrian it wasn't anonymous anymore. That's true,

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especially since you got twelve guy listeningin New Jersey. And do you
not have the common sense after beingaround us for long enough to know that
I'm a broadcaster and I'm just goingto blabber it out to everybody. That's
what I do. I'm the media. You can't Trustick, can't trust the
media west side, Jim, youshould know that. By No, I

(39:17):
should have just told Joe Strecker hekeeps things to hisself. Well, yeah,
he's good at that, Joe.Joe. Joe would have been good
in the mafia because he could keephis mouth shut for forever if he needed
to. Yep. Sure, andprobably is keeping things from us right now
that he knows about from being inthe mafia. No, I wasn't supposed

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to say that, Joe. I'msorry, Price Hill. Last night they
were still shooting off at one thirtyin the morning. That was fun.
But fireworks, oh yeah, theywere fired without our shotgun blast. My
dogs didn't appreciate that too much.Yeah, Brooksy the cat dog would jump
every time there was a bursted shellin our neighborhood last night. And my

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dogs just climb on their heads,on your head. They climb on your
head. That's considered a safe place, all right, I get it.
You know, it's been a whileso since I've talked to you, Brian
about the Help Squad and what thatis. So the Help Squad is a

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Christian based five oh one c threenonprofit organization that assist financially struggling families with
a focus on single moms and dads, strictly on the west side of town
for now, we are trying toexpand to the east. You know,
wouldn't it sounds great to have aHelp Squad Norwood or Help Squad Batavia something

(40:43):
like that. So the goal isto spread the Help Squad to different parts
of the of the city so wecan help everyone other than just the West
side. But that's where we areright now. How do you determine who
needs help and who gets the help? How how do you any number of
questions come to mind. How doyou raise money? I know you just
had a fundraiser that you did rightthe other night at the Trios. So

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unfortunately, we're only as good asthe money we have in the bank.
As much as I hate to saythat, you can have the biggest heart
in the world to want to helpeverybody there is, but you really need
some funding. You really need agood amount of money in the bank.
And so we're always having fundraisers,events, you name it. We take
donations all the time. We havea website that helps Wadsinc dot com.

(41:30):
There's a nice donate button there andand if you do, rest assured that
one percent of your donation goes directlyto help somebody in need. I do
not get paid, our members donot get paid. We're all volunteers,
just trying to do God's work.That's and that was the inspiration was just

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God told you that you needed todo this. I definitely felt a calling.
Yes, you know, I'm aretired police officer, so you know
that was a very rewarding job.Also is a very honorable calling. I
believe to be a policeman. Iserved twenty eight years police force, different
couple of different police forces and atotal of twenty eight years. And I

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learned through the experience of my policecareer that a lot of people need help,
and the people that need to help, there were really no agencies that
help them to their specific need ortheir specific situation. I'll give you an
example. If somebody say, adad gets laid off and now they're behind

(42:32):
on rent and the family's going toget evicted, where do you go for
help for that? You're a singlemom, your car breaks down, you
can't get to work, you can'tget to work, you can't get paid,
you can't get paid, you can'tpay your rent, you can't pay
your rent, you're evicted with yourkids. Where do people go for this
help? And there may be agenciesor some other agencies that talk about the

(42:54):
help, but we just helped thelady a couple of days ago, lady
from West Africa. She is aAmerican cisten. She did everything right,
she became American citisens and she supportsher three kids and a sick mother.
She works very hard. Some illnessesoccurred and she got behind on her rent.

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When she got a hold of theHelp Squad, she got a hold
of me. She had checked withfifteen other agencies. We're the sixteenth agencies
she's contacted to help with rent.The other fifteen had turned her down,
had not returned calls, had notreturned emails, and she got ahold of
us, and thankfully, by thegrace of God, we had the money

(43:34):
in the bank and we are helpingthis woman. As a matter of fact,
as soon as I leave here andher apartment complex office opens, I'm
going to pay her rent in full. She got in touch with you.
How did she find out about thehelp Squad? So, like I said,
we have a website, the Helpsquadsinsey dot com. We hear a
lot about people, hear about usthrough word of mouth or from allowing us

(43:58):
to be on this great radio shape, and we appreciate that. And we
also like on the website you canactually file for help, and we can
and we start vetting you as soonas we get your application, because not
everybody gets the help I mean,there are scamsters, there are people that
man, I mean, there aresituation is just so like you said.

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If you don't, if you don'thave the money right in the in the
account at that particular time, youcan't do anything right. But I will
say this, We've been around aboutthree years. I've been retired for I've
been around three about three three years, and I have never yet had to
turn somebody down that was a legitimateneed. We've gotten down to less than
one hundred dollars in our account andI still not had to turn anybody down.

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And that's just by the grace ofGod. Yeah. I was gonna
say, that's that's the God partright here, exactly exactly. If you
if you've got faith in Him,then that those funds will be there when
you need them. Yeah. LikeI said, the Help Squad is a
Christian based organization. You know,we do rely on the Lord. You
go about it exactly has to well, we all rely on the Lord.

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Some of us just don't know whatexactly. And as I say that,
I turned to west Side, Jim, what's going on? What kind of
health do you need? I'm gonnathrow a plug in for him. People,
you need to give to the HelpSquad and that would be nice.
Just like he said, he wasdown to one hundred dollars at one time.
They need to build that up soyou can keep this thing going.

(45:27):
What's going on with me? PriceHill? Just keep keep jiving and ducking.
That's about it. Free Wagoo steaks, Well, I don't know about
that. Brag it bragging on yourwagoo sending me pictures of these beautiful steaks
or going wow. You know,if he didn't spend all his money on
that expensive beef, he could helpthe help squad. Well, all I

(45:50):
could donate. I could donate themto the help squad. How's that somebody
could get some nice waks off?Oh you know what I want to I
want to know more about this,can you? I tell you what.
Let's take a break, and Iwant to find out what's the name of
the book? The movie? Theseries of movies, just three episodes,
is called Typical West Siders. TypicalWest a small personal project, though it

(46:14):
wasn't too crazy, all right aboutan hour long. It was all three
episodes. Were they inspired by God? I don't believe. I think he
turned away on this one. Sixfifteen and fifty five KR and C the
talk station fifty five KRC above thefruited Plain America the beautiful and Independence Week.

(46:38):
It continues, who beautiful he wasproved in liberating stride itself country,

(47:04):
love and mercy, singing ray America, America Me got the gold Vine team

(47:36):
success, nevertheless and ever again,Divine, you don't what. I hope
you are having a wonderful Independence Week. And for me, it's it's always

(47:58):
been my favorite holiday without question.Thanksgiving is a close second, because well,
you get to eat a lot,but the fourth of July has always
had significance to me. It wasbecause of the way I was educated,
Because of the way I was raised. I was taught that this was the
greatest country on earth, not thethings that are being taught to kids today.

(48:24):
I was taught about American history,and I think we should not overlook
any part of the American history becauseit is our legacy. And that's including
the horrible, horrible stain of slaverythat you know what, we got over.
We got over that in this countrythrough a lot of bloodshed, through

(48:47):
a lot of introspection, through alot of repenting. We conquered that.
Why do people act like we didn'tand still being oppressed because they've not been
taught the full history of what thefounders brought forth and what their ideal and

(49:10):
vision was. These guys have avision in my studio West Side Jim and
Brian Ebold from the Help Squad inCincinnati. What's that website again? Email
or whatever? The help Squad sincee C, I n C why the
Help Squadsinc? Dot com? Allone word and we just revamped the website.

(49:30):
So it was very cool, verynice. Yes, Brian is a
different guy. I've seen some videosthat Jim has showed me of stuff that
you guys have done. Now let'sget back to the movie series, which
will will not be in theaters.Is it going to be in theaters?
Absolutely not. It will not bein theaters. No, it's just kind

(49:52):
of a personal project, you know, will be a Netflix or no,
No, might might make YouTube.Maybe it might be a YouTube. Maybe
it's called Typical West Siders. Anddid you include any East Siders in the
production of this, Jim? No, Well, it's not my production who

(50:15):
producer? I'm sorry, Jim isthe star. It's the parking lot guy.
So what do you do as theparking lot dude and yelling people?
Basically? So it's typecast. Yeah, exactly. He portrays this kind of
an annoying guy that walks around theparking lot type cast exactly. I was

(50:37):
wondering, why here's my first callI'm in. So what role do you
play? Brian? Just a myself. Basically, it's kind of a Seinfeld
type thing. You know. Itgot a couple buddies, so it's about
nothing kind of yeah, pretty muchnothing that goes on the West Side.
Yeah, it's pretty much a coupleof bars. Yeah. Yeah. We

(50:59):
filmed Bucketheads bar on Harrison Avenue toomScott. I've heard of that. Yeah,
very nice. Let us let uscome in there at seven am film
and set things up. So Iwant to talk to my buddy at the
Crows and asked you could have filmedthere. Oh yeah, good spot.
But I don't know if Bill wouldallow that. Bill. Bill would be
too Oh, I don't know ifI want people to see my bar on

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TV. This way, Bucketheads treatedus very well, Yeah, very well.
With a name like Bucketheads, youfigured they got something going on there.
So August will will I'd be atthe Can I be at the screening
at the premiere? You? Yes, all right, that'd be great.
Jim wasn't there a theater downtown atseventh in Race or something like that that

(51:45):
they offered. I can't remember exactlywhat it was, but uh yeah,
I don't know. I don't knowwhat direction you're wanting to go right now.
So let me ask you both aboutthe fourth of July, since we're
still celebrating it even on the fifthhere meanings for you, Jim, what
do you think about when you thinkof the fourth of July, first and
foremost independence and in freedom. Imean, you know, if it didn't

(52:09):
go through history with the exception ofthe past, let's just say fifty years
and we've had issues, but peoplehave fought for this country to be free.
And you know, you look aroundthe world and you see all the
garbage that goes on in these fourI mean I watched the news at night
and my god, I mean,you look at these things that are the

(52:30):
cities that are just totally gone well, and you know what, and we're
starting to see signs of that insome places in this country because I think
they've forgotten what the original mission wasfor the individual. Brian, fourth of
July? What comes to mind whenyou and just anything off the top of
your head. It could be fireworks, it could be food, it could

(52:52):
be the independence that Jim's talking aboutit. What. Well, the first
thing comes of my mind is howmuch I love this country. This country.
It's a Christian based country. I'mI'm military ex military. I was
in the military also, and thenI went into police work. So I've
I've been serving as long as Iremember, as much as I can.

(53:15):
And now after retirement from the policeforce, and I got into the Help
Squad and started the Help Squad organizationto continue to give to the great people
of this country. So when Ithink of fourth of July, yeah,
I think about how much I lovethis country, even though at times it
doesn't look good for us, uhkind of in our current situation. However,

(53:37):
I believe the country is very resilientand we will we will succeed.
So yeah, I love this country. My man. I think I think
we're on the trail back. Iactually do. I don't know what gives
me an indication that we are.I just feel like we're ready to get
over that hump and uh and getback to the original ideal of it.

(54:00):
And like I said, most ofwhat I see is good. That's what
happens in most people's lives and theirinteractions with other people. It's all for
the most part, it's good.We're trying. It's only news because it's
out of the ordinary. So rememberwhen you see all the bad news,

(54:22):
this is the stuff that doesn't belongand isn't a part of most people's lives.
Six twenty seven, Dave Hatter joinsus for a little Friday tech talk.
In just a few minutes. Aswe continue on the Morning Show,
Gary jeffin for Brian on fifty fiveKRC, the talk station. All right,
rocking in the house on an earlyFriday morning, must be Dave Hatter's

(54:44):
turn sounds like Hatter music. GaryJeff on the Morning Show. On this
fifth of July, it's Independence Weekand we're still not independent of all kinds
of SI threats. That's why wehave this guy in to talk about it,
the self proclaimed tinfoil hat guy,Dave Hatter, with some tech talk

(55:07):
stuff for us this morning. Howyou doing, Dave? Hello, I
thought Dave was waiting my bad Wewere going to talk about AI girlfriends.
Well, if you can, Joe, try and contact him again and we'll
figure out. Now this is justtoo hard to believe, although I believe

(55:36):
almost anything these days. The headlineof this story is your AI girlfriend is
a data harvesting horror show. Nokidden number one. Why would you have
an AI girlfriend or boyfriend? Isthe question this Mozilla researcher says to be

(56:04):
perfectly blunt. AI girlfriends and boyfriendsare not your friends. What the hell
is an AI boyfriend or girlfriend?I mean, is there an actual robot
or is it just somewhere in theether? I'm not certain. And we
have this story about the ninety thousandlg smart TVs that may be exposed to

(56:27):
remote attacks. Most of them arein the Republic of South Korea, but
there are a good six six anda half thousand here in the United States.
You're LGTV spying on you, andthen shared Brown calling for a ban
on evs from China according to theRegister. So if we ever talked today

(56:53):
this morning, we will tackle thosetopics specifically. But again, if you
have smart anything in your house,then you're not very smart. Okay,
we do have Dave. If youwould go ahead and put him on Joe,
that'd be great. Dave, wemissed your walk up music and everything

(57:15):
else did your comrades disappear this morning. Is there a technical reason? Is
there a technical reason for this?Believe it or not? Gary, Yeah,
there is a technical reason. I'mnot exactly sure what happened. I
should hear you, but honestly,you couldn't hear me. So I know
you're talking about AI girlfriend, whichis just a completely insane topic on its

(57:36):
face, even before we get intothe details. But yeah, I'm not
sure what happened there. But youknow, we went to old school.
Yeah, that's okay. It's alwaysgood to talk to you any way we
can get you. And we havethis twentieth century technology we're going to use
today. Oh exactly. So Imean, do you think of it as
think of it as sail over,Gary, Jeff, we sailed over to

(57:59):
our backup system. That's wonderful.I mean, I wish we'd do that
with a lot a lot of differentthings, a lot of different aspects,
a lot of different technology that Iwish we could fail back to what was
there before, because it all,like I always said, Dave, whenever
they started really really focusing on makingradio fully digital, and we had all

(58:22):
these hard drives and programs that we'dnever dealt with. I mean, I
started with two turntables and a microphone, just like back back in nineteen eighty.
So when they started installing all thishardware, every time they would do
a quote upgrade, I knew thatthe thing was going to be crashing almost

(58:43):
immediately after they upgraded, and I'dbe getting the CDs and the carts back
out to complete a radio program.And I kind of enjoyed that. You
get very lazy relying on the technology, but when the technology doesn't work,
because well, we've improved it,and you know the story, So what

(59:07):
what the hell is an AI girlfriendor boyfriend? Yeah? Well, so
think about a chatbot like we've seenbefore, and you know, I guess
my best explanation for those who mayremember the Microsoft Taste story, Microsoft rolled
out one of these AI chatbots calledsay on Twitter back in twenty sixteen.
Within twenty four hours, they hadto shut it down because it just went

(59:29):
totally off the rails. Now,this stuff has improved a lot since then,
don't doubt that. But the idea, again, Gary Jeff, it
comes back to something you and Ihave talked about so many times. When
you're using these products that are free, you are not the customer, you
are the product, the amount oftime in your data. And as Mozella,
I know you started out in theMozilla angle. The people that make

(59:51):
Firefox have this great website called PrivacyNot Included. It's a great resource really
for any number of things if youwant to try to understand is an application
in a platform or a product privacyfending. Now, obviously they don't have
every single thing in the world inthere, but they'll take a look at
broad sloths of different products and youhave a good idea of whether something is
going to be privacy fly or andI love the way they'll count it.

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If it's not a privacy for theproduct, they'll put it in the Privacy
Not Included bucket. So they lookedat eight different AI girlfriends. So you
sign up and you talk to thisthing and it's your girlfriend to quote unquote
or boyfriend could go either way,right, And they looked at these things
and the eleven look at none ofthem were viewed positively. There were privacy

(01:00:34):
problems, there were security problems,and you know, one of the things
they point out, and I can'tstress enough to people if you're using something
where your data is the fundamental driverof their revenue. Well, of course
they're going to work collect as muchdata as possible, and you know,
they've been mentioned in here that thesethings, of course are asking for the
most sensitive data possible about you,because then supposedly that's going to be the

(01:00:59):
experience better. You know, here'sa direct quote from the article. Even
Ai Chad thought and film may pushusers to quote share all your secrets and
desires unquote, and specifically asked forphotos and voice recording, which would be
really handy if someone wanted to cuteyour voice and aid take you. So,
yeah, this this is just insane, Gary Jeff. It's hard for

(01:01:20):
me to imagine how someone could belonely enough to want to use one of
these things. And I'm glad someoneis exposing it, because you know,
there's nothing good will come up this, I predict. I mean, will
an AI girlfriend get mad if youdon't take her to dinner? I mean,
how does that work? How doesany of this work? And what

(01:01:42):
would make people gravitate? I mean, how sad does your life have to
be that you need romance versus artvia artificial intelligence. I'm looking at Replica
Chai romantic Ai Eva a chat boughtin soul soul Mate AI doesn't have a

(01:02:05):
soul, how can it be asoulmate? What about the hell excellent point
carrette? But one last thing forone at a time. Again, you
know, these things are voracious intheir effort to collect your data. The
article points out. One of themore striking findings. Team of Mozilla count
of the trackers in these apps alittle bit to code to collect data and
share them with other companies for advertising. Mozilla found the AI girlfriend apps use

(01:02:29):
an average and wait for two thousand, six and thirty three trackers per minute,
and Romantic AI had twenty four,three hundred and fifty four trackers and
just one minute abusing app. Soit's not just that they're directly collecting your
data, it's through these trackers they'reselling your data to other people. So
you might be in there talking aboutthings like your sexual health, your mental

(01:02:52):
health, or your deepest desires quoteunquote, and imagine who would potentially have
access to that data and they mightsell that to I mean again, nothing
good could possibly come of this.Uh And I just can't strongly encourage people
enough if you're thinking about using oneof these or if you know someone that
does. Don't take old tenfold DaveHatter's hat word for it. Go out

(01:03:16):
and check out Mozilla and see whatthey have to say about it. You've
gotta be, you gotta be,you gotta be mentally ill to even in
dabbling this. I mean, I'mjust gonna go the easy route, Dave.
I'm gonna find a computer I hateand buy it a house. We'll
take a break and come back morewith Dave Hatter and Friday Tech Talk.

(01:03:37):
You're on fifty five KRC. Thetalk statements a microphone that's uh six forty
three. It's right here on fiftyfive KRC DJ DJ at the controls and
Dave Hatter joining us on a FridayTech Talk. I would just uh,

(01:04:00):
I was looking at your opinion postin the Northern Kentucky Tribune, Dave.
Oh, and it's titled cybersecurity threatspose a challenge in One adversary stands above
the rest. Let me guess whoit is before I even read any further,
The People's Republic of China. Wow, Gary, Jeff, that's an

(01:04:21):
amazing guess. How did you guessthat? So tell me a little bit
about what you wrote here about thePRC and infiltrating our networks. That the
Chinese are so good. I meanthey have planned this and plotted this for
quite a while, and they're executingit now with great precision and perfection,

(01:04:44):
and we seem to be allowing themto do it up to this point.
Yeah, we definitely seem to beasleep at the switch, although I think
folks are coming around. But before, before I get it, I just
got to tell you I love thatback song. Have you ever seen the
Futurama episode where Bender the robot playswashboard on himself to that song? No,
I haven't. You haven't watched Futurama. It's quite funny anyway, but

(01:05:09):
there's an episode where Bender, youdon't know, this very funny robot,
and yeah, he does that songand he plays the washboard on himself.
That's great. Anyhow, we havewe have a we have a robot named
Bender around here, but he's notthat funny. Oh yeah, anyway,
you were saying, Look, yeah, so you know, all the all

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the three better agencies have been warningabout critical infrastructure. The FBI looks at
critical infrastructure for sixteen different sectors.You know, chemicals, you know,
a variety of things, most ofthem I think are pretty obvious. The
electric rid And they've been warning forsome time about p r C, the
People's Republic of China, Chinese CommunistParty infiltration and our critical infrastructure, with

(01:05:57):
the theory that at some point,uh, you know, when the time
is right and they decide they wantedto want to attack, and they would
potentially be able to cause chaos andyou know, pretty much up in the
whole country without every fire or shotbecause and I say this all the time
to people, Garry Jeff, juststop the thing, even if you don't
believe a word I'm saying. Ifthis sounds like some sort of tenfoil hack
conspiracy, think about how much timeyou spend online in a given day.

(01:06:23):
This is an average person. Youknow, you bank online, you entertain
yourself online. Many people now workin some sort of online fashion factories are
increasingly digital. You know, thissystem is interonnected to that system. I
think I mentioned this seed before.I always encourage people go out and read
an article called the Coming Software Apocalypse. It's not even really focused on cybersecurity.

(01:06:45):
It's more focused on bad software andtechnical debt, legacy software that's never
been upgraded and improved, but hasissues. And now because we rely on
this stuff. In the old days, things were mechanical. Now everything is
digital. It's often not even possibleto understand every possible state that's something to

(01:07:06):
be in because of the software insideit. And now you have hackers breaking
into this stuff. In the business, it's called lurking or dwell time.
Right, I'm going to lurk aroundin there. I'm going to dwell.
I'm going to look for possible opportunitiesto steal money, steal data, some
combination of both, or and fromthe perspective of an adversary like the people

(01:07:29):
from Public and China, I'm goingto plant back doors there and wait till
the right time to shut your factoriesdown, or cause chemical releases, or
do whatever it is that I mightwant to do. So my long witted
point here is people have been talkingabout this for a long time. It
started to reach a critical level.I encourage people who haven't looked into this
before go out and see what FBIDirector Ray has said about this, as

(01:07:54):
well as people like the National SecurityDirector and so forth. I mean,
they've been raising me alarm about thisfor some time, and so you know,
the point I'm trying to make isit's well, our entire society now
depends on this stuff. Former NSAdirector and former Army general Paul NAKASONI said,
quote, cybersecurity is national security,unquote. I totally agree with that.

(01:08:15):
And then you've got folks like NicoOpponent, who's an internationally renowned cybersecurity
expert. I got a photo ofhim from a Ted talk he gave where
he's got a giant screen he standit next to, and it says,
we're no longer protecting computers, We'reprotecting society, and that's that's where we're
at. So I'm just trying touse what little bit of you know,
influence I have as someone who's workedin this business for a long time and

(01:08:38):
he sees these problems that is veryconcerned about them, to just raise awareness
out there every chance I get.So I appreciate it when people pick these
things up when I put them out. You know, I'll post this thing
on X and you know I'll postit on my show notes so folks can
read it for themselves. But youdon't take my word for it. You
will find there are many experts inmany government officials, warning that you know,

(01:08:59):
we must get serious about securing thiscritical infrastructure before something on catastrophic and
unthinkable happens. And it's going tohappen eventually if we don't take care of
it soon. Yep, definitely,we're right there at the Precipice six forty
eight. We'll take a break andcome back one more time with Dave Header
on Friday tech Talk on fifty fiveKRC, the talk station. Now with

(01:09:25):
a few minutes left for Dave Hatteron a Friday. Herey Jeff and the
Mad Hatter talking text stuff. So, Dave, I'll give you your choice
either smart TVs or Chinese evs.We just beat up on the communists pretty
bad in the last segment. So, but this kind of relates to so

(01:09:47):
which one do you want to havea stablished How how about if I work
them both in together? Oh,you are a master, You're a master.
It does go ahead. They bothspeak to privacy and dumpster fire.
That is the so called Internet ofthings aka quote unquote smart devices. So,

(01:10:09):
Gary, Jeff, you and Ihave been talking about this stuff for
a long long time. Internet ofthings, most of that stuff is basically
designed to get market share get themarket fast. They don't care about your
privacy and security. Much of itcomes from China. And you know,
when you buy these smart coffee makersand things that sound cool but really you
don't need, you're just asking fortrouble. Two things on the smart TV.

(01:10:30):
If you have an LG smart TV, I strongly encourage you to go
into its settings, update the softwarein it, and make sure it's set
to automatically update. There are manyof them that have some pretty significum vulnerabilities
that would allow a remote takeover.People say, so, what, well,
I might be able to get fromyour TV to your computer or other
devices, which would be problematic.But you know, again, the whole

(01:10:54):
Internet of things, you have devicesthat have software in them. You have
software that has bugs, you havesoftware that's not configured correctly. The bad
guys know this. There's a searchengine called showdam it's specifically designed to find
Internet of Things devices. That's oneof the ways they were able to tell
there's at least ninety thousand lgpds outthere that have the software vulnerability. So

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when we have these Internet of Thingsdevices that are poorly designed, poorly developed,
and misconfigured, it basically is makingit easy for the bad guys,
whether it's the Chinese Communist Party orNorth Korea or just your average hacker.
And the whole Chinese electric vehicle ideato me is so alarming. Imagine for

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a second Carria Jet, even ifyou trust of these vehicles coming from China
that are full of microphones and sensors. Back in Mozilla for a second,
I encourage people to check out theirprivacy non included report on new cars.
They're basically rolling surveillance devices. Nowtake that to the next step, where
you have an adversarial nation, thesingle most adversarial nation in the world.

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They're going to build cars that you'regoing to buy, They're going to collect
all your personal data, they're goingto know everywhere you go, and there're
surveillance tools. For example, whatwould stop the Chinese Communist Party from having
backdoors in the software of these carsthat they could use the surveillance devices.
They don't need satellites, they don'tneed spyplane. They're spying on us through
these cars. But the worst andmost scary part of this would be what

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do you think would happen when youhave a eight to ten thousand pounds vehicle
full of nasty batteries and chemicals andsuch that could be weaponized and turned into
basically projectiles. Every Chinese car atfour point thirty pm on Friday afternoon just
accelerates, or even worse because ofthe advanced AI GPS type capabilities. They

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are targeted to specific things like yourlocal subpower substation, and while you're in
it, you become a missile thatdrives through the fence into the transformers.
And I know this sounds crazy topeople. I'm not the only person talking
about it, and people like SharedSenator Shared Brown from Ohio have reached out.
You know that the Biden administration hasgotten, you know, pretty serious

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about this, but you know,Sharon Brown has reached out and warned about
this, as have others, bothpoliticians and experts. It's not just that
they're subsidizing THEEDS and trying to stealmarket share and you know, damage American
companies that make cars. It's notjust that these things are individual and collective

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surveillance devices. It's that they canbe weaponized by a foreign adversary. And
as we all know, every companyin China is ultimately controlled by the Chinese
government and the Chinese Communist Party.I think it's absolutely insane that we would
even consider allowing something like this intoour nation, especially in light of the

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seemingly rapidly decreasing stuck for a workvery jeff relations relations with the Chinese Commuty
Party. It's crazy. Well,I mean, in any kind of autonomous
vehicle, I'm steering clear of nopun intended, whether it was made in
Communists, China or anywhere else.I'm just not a big fan of that.

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The less that technology takes control ofmy life, the better I like
it. Well, I agree withyou one hundred percent, despite doing this
for a limit. Yeah, it'sall so immature and so fraught with peril
due to privacy and security issues,even if you take the Chinese Communist Party

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hang on it. Yeah, lessis better at this point unless you really
know what you're doing, and youyou know vet things carefully and you know
how to figure them correctly, andyou know how to keep them updated,
which most people don't. And that'snot a crack on society. It's just
you know, this stuff is complicated, it moves fast, and most people
don't want to have to know allthis stuff, which I fully understand.

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But if you're if you're using thesekinds of devices and you don't really understand
how they work and how to securehim, you are really asking for trouble.
Oh, I encourage folks stay awayfrom him. All I need,
Dave Hatter, is a pocket watchin a nine volt transistor radio. And
I'm fine, Dave Hadder, havea fantastic weekend, Enjoy the rest of

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the Independence holiday, and thanks forjoining us this morning. Always my pleasure.
Gary, Jeff, you too,and help to chat with you.
Thanks. We will speak to GeorgeC. Landreth on Let Freedom Ring Again
after the news at seven o'clock fiftyfive KRC, the talk station of the
ever changing world. There's one constanceyou can depend on. Fifty five KRC,

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the talk station at the top end, bottom of the hour. It
is Independence Week and we are talkingto another person who believes that we can
bring it back stronger than ever.And I love the hope, I love
the optimism, and I am prayerfullyencouraging all of you and myself included to

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let Freedom Ring Again, which isthe title of the book that our next
guest has written. He is thepresident of the Frontiers of Freedom and esteemed
Constitutional law expert probably has some interestingtakes on what has gone on into Supreme
Court at the end of their session. And his name is George C.
Landreth and he is our guest.Now, George, welcome to the show.

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How are you. I'm doing well, Gary, And it is a
real honor to be on the GaryJeff Walker radio Show. I have to
say, I'm it's one of thosethings you've put on a list in life
you want to do. If beingon my show was ever a bucket list
appointment, then gosh, I don'tknow what to say except you probably ought

(01:17:00):
to have higher aspirations first. Oh, I just think you know you're doing
a great job, and you're promotingwhat I would call the very issues that
will help America be what America wasmeant to be and what we can all
hope it is. Well, George, you know, to boil down to
just celebrating America's independence in our greatstory to one day, I think does

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a disservice and I think you're ifyou're a true patriotic American, you should
celebrate America's independence every day as anindividual because it's about individual independence as well
as a nation. In my opinion, and I think the entire month of
July ought to be Independence month.I mean, it ought to be a
pride month of a different sort.What are your thoughts on that? I

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agree with you if you look atwhat happened, you know in seventeen seventy
six, the history of the worldhas changed. I mean, there's so
many things. The Declaration of Independencewas really a revolutionary doctrine. For example,
it rejected the idea that government isthe grant of rights. It used
to be that the king would giveyou what rights he chose to give you,

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and they said, nope, it'sa higher source than that. God
himself is the grantur of rights,and government's role is simply to protect those
rights and that it may not violatethose rights about incurring his wrath. And
that's something Jefferson said, And it'skind of an that changed the world.
And so all of a sudden,now you weren't dependent on whether or not
the king liked you. And Ijust think, wow, what an amazing

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thing. And then I would argueour great national mission statement as a nation
is we hold these truths to beself evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed bytheir creator with enable rights among these their
life living instead of happiness, andthat helped fuel America and push America to
be what it has become. Andwell, maybe not in the last few
years, but the great nation thatwe have witnessed, where it became an

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economic power, a military power,and an example the shining city on the
hill to the rest of the world. Well, and it's such a stark
contrast hearing you quote that and recitethat from the from the declaration of independence,
and then to hear the current presidenttry and recite it, you know

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the thing? Uh oh, yeah, that thing, and that's what's lost,
you know what. And a lotof it comes down to the way
we have not necessarily passed on thetorch of that great light that is American
democracy and the republic for which theflag stands that we're living in. So

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explain to me in this book letFreedom Ring Again, and it's a great
title, how the book talks aboutthe relationship between liberty and prosperity in America
because they go hand in hand.Well, absolutely they do. In fact,
I would argue that the reason whyAmerica went from being relatively thirteen relatively

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insignificant colonies that were not economically powerful, didn't compare with a single nation in
Europe, and very quickly, ina matter of probably about one hundred years,
not only became their equal, butwas beginning to surpass them, and
as a result of that, becamethe world's economic superpower, to the point

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where all of Europe combined couldn't competewith America's economic might. And that was
because freedom was the ground rule,the foundation upon which things were built.
Because when people have freedom, theytend to accomplish and be more entrepreneurial.
And you know, you an examplewould be in the Soviet Union when they

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had an interesting stat which was allthe state run farms produced X, and
then you had essentially a few plotsaround that farmers were allowed to just have
for their family, and they producedlike ten times as much per square foot
as the state run farms did.And what that tells you is that government

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planning doesn't work that well, butfreedom works tremendously well. And while there
wasn't much freedom in the Soviet Union, and apparently farmers were allowed to have
a maybe a ten foot by tenfoot plot for their own kind of family
vegetables, and the rest of itwas state run and guess which one was
the reason they didn't all starve todeath. So they had a lot of
starvation going on there. But theexample, Yeah, that's an example of

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the idea that freedom works. Youcan look at America's history, you can
look at other nations that were morefreedom, they are more productive. Whenever
I hear any elected official talking abouta five year plan or a ten year
plan, I keep on heartening backto the old Soviet Union who always had

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these five year plans and ten yearplans. You know, they say that
the best way to make a problemworse is for the government to declare war
on it. And it's the samekind of thing, right, George,
Oh, exactly. Example, thewar on poverty. We've spent trillions of
dollars. We've spent more money onpoverty than the value of the entire fortune

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five hundred If you were to liquidateall the fortune five hundred companies, liquidate
them tomorrow, then confiscate the valueof those companies. We've spent more than
that to get rid of poverty,and guess what we haven't. But the
most best way to get rid ofpoverty, I think, was something that
Ronald Reagan once said, which isthe best social program out there's a job.

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We need to be creating a vibranteconomy where jobs are so easy to
get and there's so many of them, and employers are forced them to compete
for employees because you know, asopposed to a stagnant economy where basically employees
have a hard time finding work.Like right now, Joe Biden tells us

(01:23:24):
how great the economy is and howmany jobs he's created, But all I
know is is a ton of peoplehave two and three jobs to make ends
meet, and a lot of peopleare afraid to get a new job because
they're afraid of leaving the one theyhave simply because they don't think they can
get another one. Plus the economyis so weak more than half, more
than half of the jobs that havebeen so called created, have gone to

(01:23:45):
the illegals that have been allowed toenter our country willy nilly since Joe Biden
took office. So that's part ofthe great success of Biden nomics, if
you want to call it that.And you know, you mentioned all the
trillions that have been spent on theWar on poverty over the years. Talking
to George C. Landreth, whois the author of Let Freedom Ring Again
here on Independence Week, and GeorgeGavin Newsom, who's been mentioned as a

(01:24:13):
possible replacement for Joe Biden or arising star in the governor of California and
made it his mission when he wasmayor of San Francisco to eliminate homelessness.
And the state of California has spentbillions upon billions of dollars just throwing it
at the homeless problem and it's onlygotten worse. Government is not the answer.

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Yeah, California is now the homelesscapital of the world. Yes,
exactly. It's amazing. And theyactually used to be a state of tremendous
economic growth and wealth and now theyhave more people in poverty than any other
state by far. More with GeorgeC. Landreth in a moment as we
continue on Independence Week, the Red, White, and Blue and you know

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it needs to happen again. Weneed to let Freedom Ring Again. More
on the book and our conversation withGeorge in just a moment and Dependence we
continues as we celebrate America and we'reencouraging folks to let Freedom Ring Again,

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which is the name of the bookthat our guest has written. George c.
Landrath, I mean absolutely, itechoes what I'm hearing. So many
people say that it's not too late. We can get this back, and
we need it needs to be aconcerted effort from education of our youngest people
to understanding that government is not theanswer that it's supposed to be we the

(01:25:54):
people, but we the people haveto take control of that and convince those
who are that we've elected in powerto know that they work for us,
not the other way around. Soyou know what, George, what are
you right? And also maybe areminder as well as that the Constitution isn't
to limit our rights, it's tolimit the power of government to trample our

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rights. Some people act as ifit's the opposite. What lessons from America's
founding fathers are most relevant today?George, Well, one of them,
I think is they were big believersand things like free speech. They were
big believers in things like limitations inthe power of government, for example.

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Occasionally only have people say, oh, yeah, the founders are just looking
to make themselves powerful and they wantto start this new country so they can
be powerful, and think of myself, if that's all they wanted, they
were really bad at what they didbecause they created a government that they knew
who the first leaders of the countrywould be, and yet they limited their
powers very significantly, and they abidedby those limitsas And I'm thinking to myself,

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that doesn't sound like somebody who hastotalitarian ambitions, because if you had
totalitary ambitions, what you'd say is, hey, I'm George Washington. I
won the revolution. Just let mebe in charge. I'll do the right
thing. You can trust me.Instead, he presided over a constitutional convention
that created tremendous limitations on the powerof the federal government, and everyone in

(01:27:27):
that room knew he was going tobe the first president of the United States,
and I suspect he probably realized thatwas likely as well, even though
he didn't say aspire to it.But the fact is they said that the
people's rights were more important than theruler's power. And that tells you the
quality of leaders of these individuals,because not meant, you know, Napoleon

(01:27:47):
would have never done that. Howdo you feel about the decentralization of our
government. I just can't wait forsomeone who has the colahunas and has the
ability to just rip through these differentdepartments in Washington, d C. And

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go. Okay, this needs tobe entirely eliminated. I can think of
at least two or three government agenciesthat we could definitely live without, one
of them being the Department of Education, one of them being possibly the Department
of Energy. My congressman is ThomasMassey, and he's always said that he

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wants to go to Washington with twodough tags. He's a deer hunter too,
and he said one is the Departmentof Energy, one of the Department
of Education. He hasn't succeeded yet, But I mean, wouldn't that go
a long way to getting back tothe original ideals and concepts of the founders?
George, Yes. I mean,if you look at the powers that
the Constitution gives the federal government,they are not supposed to be in education.

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Our founders all believe education is very, very important, but just because
it's important doesn't mean the federal governmentneeds to be involved in it, and
it was more of a local anda state issue in their minds. And
interestingly, since the federal government's gotinvolved in education, our ranking in the
world has been falling rapidly and steadfastly, and so obviously a federal agency has

(01:29:18):
not done anything to promote or tocause our education to be of a higher
quality. And so I totally agreewith you if you look at our founding
fathers. One of the genius ofthe Constitution was it sliced and diced power.
It divided it between three branches ofgovernment. It limited its power very
significantly in terms of the powers thatwas given to government and said the other

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things were off limits. And thenit created a federal system in which the
states had power, localities had power, and the federal government had power,
but none of it. Nobody hadall the power. And so if you
were to take over America, youhad a lot to worry about because there
wasn't just one play us to goto grab the power, and it was

(01:30:02):
in a lot of pots, soto speak, distributed all over the country.
And so that was really, Ithink an intelligent move and it promoted
liberty and freedom. But we've begunin the last generation or so to step
away from that and aggrandize government.And the idea is, if something's a
good idea, then government should needthe federal government should be involved in it.

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And it's like I'm sure you believethat education matters too. I do.
I've served on a school board.I believe it matters. But the
federal government's doing nothing to help.They're making it worse. And I think
there's a lot of things like that. So if we get back to the
Constitution and the idea that our governmentshould be limited to be really helpful.
And if you look at the Billof Rights, the Bill of Rights is

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actually not a list of the rightsyou have. It's actually a list of
limitations on government. For example,Congress shall make no law the beginning of
the First Amendment. In other words, it's not some flowery language about every
man deserves the right through worship,every man deserves the right to speak his
mind. And it doesn't say that. It says Congress can't get involved.

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Yeah, leave that business, leavepeople alone. It was a limitation on
government, and we ought to getback to limiting government. Some people say
the Constitution is vague. Is itvague or is it pretty specific? I
think that it's there's a genius toits vagueness and what I mean. I
don't actually think it's vague, butI do think that it wasn't so specific

(01:31:27):
that it only applies to one timein one place. For example, if
they had phrased things very very specifically, they might have only applied to a
world of seventeen seventy six or seventeeneighty or eighteen oh five, you know,
But the idea, for example,that we have the right to be
secure in our possessions and not havegovernment just knock down our door and come

(01:31:49):
check things out. And you know, they didn't know about wire to apps
back then, there was no suchthing. And yet because they wrote it
in a way that was wise andgaranteed that the government in Hopah is going
to invade our privacy for law enforcepurposes, it would have to have a
warrant or you know those kinds ofprotections that has been really powerful. So

(01:32:13):
I would argue part of the geniusof the Constitution was they weren't so specific
that they limited the application of thedocument to just its its time. They
it was written in a way thatI think dealt with timeless and important principles.
But I don't believe it's vague inthe sense that because oftentimes vagueness means

(01:32:34):
it doesn't make much sense. It'sjust kind of blah blah blah. And
that's a criticism, and I donot think that's a justified way of seeing
our constitution because I think it's actuallysheer genius. Yeah, I agree with
you. It's it's amazing how thesefederal judges and so many other people in

(01:32:59):
positions are power or continue to ignoreour constitution. George Would, what do
we do about them? I mean, you have a violation of about you
about violation of at least four orfive of President Trump's Bill of Rights constitutional
rights in this trial in New Yorkalone. Oh, you're exactly right that

(01:33:23):
that trial is outrageous and insane,and you know, to be blunt.
If someone were trying to try todo the same game against the president,
I am less fond of an examplemight be a Joe Biden. I would,
because I believe in the rule oflaw. I would actually defend him
from that kind of a lawsuit.I'm not saying I defend him from any

(01:33:43):
lawsuit if you have actual crimes thatyou can prove with actual facts, not
made up series, and you don'tchange all the statue of limitations and just
kind of come up with novel thingsto get at somebody you don't like.
That's different, But you know,but It's just it's very important to me
that we get back to a timeand a place where our constitution matters,

(01:34:04):
the rule of law matters, becausewhat we're seeing and what we're witnessing is
not the rule of law. We'rewitnessing the rule of men, which is
the arbitrary application of legal standards usedto get at people we don't like.
And what I want is a rulethat says the rule of law, it
applies to everyone, it applies torun equally and fairly, and we don't

(01:34:27):
just make up stuff to go afterpeople we've decided we don't like. And
so that's why I say, eventhough I'm not a fond of someone like
Joe Biden, I would not approveof a system that went after him just
because we didn't like him. Again, if we've got if he robs a
bank, and we can prove thatthat's a crime and he ought to account
for that, I'm not saying butI want him to not have to pay

(01:34:50):
for anything. I'm just saying,we ought not use our legal system to
go after our political enemies. You'llnotice, for example, that Ronald Reagan
didn't do that. You'll notice,for example, that neither did it Donald
Trump. But that's what the Obamaadministration did. They use the IRS to

(01:35:12):
target conservatives. Yes, they did, and that's what and that's what Biden's
been doing, George c evidenced bythis law there, George landerth It's it's
a pleasure to have you on theshow. I enjoyed it very much.
He's the president of Frontiers of Freedomand the book is let Freedom Ring Again,
and I wish you great success withit. It's a message that all

(01:35:33):
Americans should get. Well, thankyou, Gary, I appreciate it.
They can get it at Amazon,I think Barnes and Noble. They can
also just go to Fronts of Freedom'swebpage to read more about it at FF
dot org. All right, thankyou so much. Fifty five KRC the
Great American Area seven on this Fridaymorning. How you doing, Gary,

(01:36:01):
Jeff Walkern for Brian Thomas all thisweekend at Lunkin to celebrate Independence Day weekend.
I think it ought to be IndependenceMonth, but it is Independence Week
today, tomorrow and Sunday. Theincredible display of these vintage airplanes that served

(01:36:26):
us so well in battle, especiallyin World War Two, but in Korea,
in Vietnam. They're on display.The Commemorative Air Force's Airpower History Tour
has stopped into town and it goeson through Sunday. I think you could
actually get a ride. I don'tknow if they've they've sold out all the
seats cockpit rides in the training craftthat they used to train pilots in World

(01:36:55):
War Two actual airplanes, but thesewere the training models. And then the
B twenty nine super Fortress bomber,which is just a great old war bird.
It's something that's on my list ofthings to do and hopefully, hopefully
we get out there to see allthe planes at Lunk. And had an

(01:37:18):
old buddy who passed Stanley Cohen,who flew those planes he got in at
the tail end of World War Two. Sadly, Stanley's been gone for a
while, the cowboy, but healways invited me to go fly with him

(01:37:39):
and some buddies in a vintage WorldWar Two aircraft to Virginia Tech where he
went to school for the football game, and almost made the trip. That's
a regret. I wish I wouldhave gone with Stanley and his boys to
go check it out. Speaking ofVirginia, there is a hotly contested race

(01:38:00):
where Tim Kaine, the Democrat,has actually owned that seat for a while.
He's the incumbent. He's facing aguy named Hung Cow. That's right,
Hung Cow. It was a newbook called Call Me An American.
We'll find out about Hung Cow nextas we continue on fifty five KRC the
talk station. It is great thisweek to have a true patriot on the

(01:38:30):
air. And no matter what yourdefinition of a true patriot is, I
believe this guy more than qualifies asa true patriot. He happens to be
the Republican US Senate candidate in Virginia. He won the primary, and we'll
face off against the incumbent Tim Kainein November. He has a brand new
book called Call Me An American,and we definitely are calling him that and

(01:38:56):
more. Hung Cow, Welcome tothe show. How are you. I'm
doing great. Thank you so muchfor having me on your show. You
just had a fantastic rally this pastweekend. Tell me about that. Oh
pleasant Trump came to Chesapeake, Virginiaand they invited me to speak on there,
and then when he landed, hewanted me back on stage with him

(01:39:16):
and it was just funny. Hey, he's just a very, very funny
man. And he shook my handand he's like shaking his hand after he's
like, oh my gosh, Ithink he broke my hand. You got
to watch out. He's got avery strong grip there. But you know,
he's just he's just got the howgoing. All right, Call me
an American is the book. We'regoing to talk about that obviously here in
a few minutes. Hung but let'stalk first about how you got to this

(01:39:41):
point here. And when I sayyou're a true patriot, the original American
colonist and the founding fathers braved alot of bloody hardships and battles to forge
this country. They came from somewhereelse and settled here, many of them,
and then the next generations were bornon this continent. But you know,

(01:40:05):
coming to basically an untamed wilderness andharsh winners they'd never faced before,
and finally being on their own,and then they fought to be really on
their own as we celebrate our independencethis week. You came from a different
place, but I think your storyis very very much the same. It's

(01:40:25):
very similar of those those original Americansin the fact that you were a refugee
from Vietnam. What do you rememberabout those days? Huh oh, thank
you. This is the American story, right, I mean, it's all
of our stories. So I innineteen seventy five, you know, the
brand new center named Joe Biden signed, you know, push a bill to

(01:40:48):
no longer fund any support to SouthVietnam. So the whole country fell apart,
and so we left there in themiddle of night and just you know,
made it our way to United States, not knowing what the future would
hold. I moved to West Africabecause that's where my dad could find work.
After we moved to the United States, and then at the age of

(01:41:09):
twelve, my parents brought me backhere because you know, I didn't speak
any English. I went to Frenchschools and spoke Vietnamese at home. So
my dad remained in Africa for afew more years working and we'd see him
every six months. But that's whatsacrifice is, and I grabbed down to
the American dream. I went tothe top high school in the United States,
a brand new high school called ThomasJefferson High School for Scuti technology.

(01:41:30):
I went to the United States NavalAcademy, earning a bachelor's in engineering I
went to Naval Postgraduate School where Iearned a master's in physics, and I
had fellowships at Harvard I but youknow what, I paid back every dime
of that American dream with twenty fiveyears of service in Navy Special Operations.
I was a Navy DC diver therecovered John F. Kenney Junior, his
wife and a sister in law,and I was a bomb disposal technician that

(01:41:54):
you know, diffused bombs for oursteal teams and our special Force team in
Iraq. Afghanis somoia wow. Imean right there. You could stop right
there and do nothing else, andI would be sitting here slack jawed in
amazement and wouldn't have words to saythank you. But okay, thank you

(01:42:15):
for everything that you just detailed thatyou have done for our country. But
then you decided that there was morethat you could do for your country,
especially at such a pivotal time.You know, your family fled communism,
and I can't believe there is sucha push to bring it to the United

(01:42:36):
States and to make it or youknow, communism, Marxism, whatever you
want to call it, that isso anti American. You and your family
tasted what that's like, and said, this is not for us. The
entire communism has failed everywhere it's everbeen tried. And I don't know why

(01:42:58):
there's such a push by some peoplein this country to drive us to a
to a full on communist state.Huh can you explain that now? No?
I can't. I mean, it'snot a fad like what Comrade Bernie
and AOC and all these people aretrying to push like they didn't invent.
This has been around for over onehundred years and it's destroyed every country it's

(01:43:19):
touched. And they're turning this intowhat I ran away from. And you
know, I left Afghanistan in twentytwenty one and January twenty twenty one and
watching the country fall apart there,that's why I was like, you know
what, I need to retire.But then watching the enemy come in from
the inside, destroying everything we believein, I just couldn't sit but sit
back and just let it happen.So I ran for Congress actually in twenty

(01:43:42):
two and you know, I wanta very heavy, heavy, you know
heavy what's called with the primary witheleven people, and I went against this
lady that they she just kept callingand called me everything from an extremists to
a threat to democracy. I mean, these people just thanking me for my
service six months before, right,And she called me all sorts, you

(01:44:03):
know, all sorts of names.And I said, you know what,
I earned the right to be calledAmerican. You need you called me an
American. So the name of mybook is actually in a front to her,
you know, kind of like abig you know, flipping the bird
in her face because saying, hey, call me an American because I fought
for this right. But again,I'm going to keep fighting for the American
people. So we didn't win intwenty two, but we moved that needle

(01:44:25):
thirteen percent in a you know,in a very blue district that includes Louden
County where they're attacking the parents,right, the school board was, and
we moved that needle from Biden plusnineteen down to six points. And that's
why we ran for They asked meto run for US Senate. And here
I am the nominee for the USSenate in Virginia and I'm going to take
on Tim K. Cain, youknow, the Hillary Clinton's running mate.

(01:44:46):
So I mean, what, obviouslyyou're you're very positive and you believe you
can win, and I hope youcan win because the balance of power in
the Senate and the House of Representativesdeath only needs to be out of the
Marxist hands, uh and the squadand all of that. But what are

(01:45:08):
things looking like? What are thepoles saying? And how's your fundraising going
so far? Oh? The pollsare basically President Trump and President Di Biden
are neck and neck in Virginia.I mean, this is where President Trump
won the lost by ten points intwenty twenty, and he's already neck and
neck, if not above Joe Biden. And if you go back to Tim

(01:45:30):
Keane, I mean this guy talkabout Marxist socialists. I mean he spent
his u some time after college orbetween college down in Honduras, you know,
I mean I think he got youknow, he got completely brainwashed by
all the socialists down there, andhe truly believes in all this stuff.
And no one can remember what thisguy's done for Virginia. I mean,
he's you know, the only thingthey could remember. He got stuck on

(01:45:54):
I ninety five with a bottle ofdoctor pepper during a snowstorm and that's it.
Well, what a legacy. Yeah, and being part, of course
of a losing presidential campaign in twentysixteen. I want to get to you're
talking about Louden County and you're talkingabout Virginia, and in fact, I'm

(01:46:14):
moving close to a break here andwe're going to come back if you'll allow
me some extra time with you totalk about that particular region in the country
and why a victory not only foryou but for President Trump would be so
as the President likes to say,as forty five says, huge, it

(01:46:35):
would be. It would be huge. Virginia would be huge. It's a
beautiful, beautiful state. It wouldbe huge if you guys could claim victories
both of you in the Senate andthe presidential campaigns. More with Hung Kow
in just a moment as we continueIndependence Day Week fifty five KRC, we

(01:46:56):
are talking to Hung Kow, USSenate campaign candidate for Virginia going to face
off against Tim Kine in the fall, and the author of the new book
Call Me An American, detailing hisan amazing story of being a South Vietnamese
refugee fleeing communism and the fall ofVietnam in nineteen seventy five, with his
family, coming to the United States, learning English, becoming a Navy captain,

(01:47:21):
and now a Senate campaign candidate,along with being the author of Call
Me an American hung We were talkingbefore about the rally over the last weekend
with President Trump and Virginia, anddescribe for me again what that energy was

(01:47:41):
like what you told somebody else.Okay, well, not that I ever
tried this, but it's like eatinga whole pack of Pixy sticks and then
chasing with four Monster drinks. That'swhat the energy was like. You see
it on TV and do you evenget the width and breadth of it?
And on tie or I guess beingthere is everything. Yeah, being there

(01:48:03):
is everything. Because these people wereout there from eight o'clock in the morning
and President didn't start speaking until fourand they're out there in the hot,
blazing sun and it was you know, typical Virginia summer where it's muggy and
humid. But they they were outthere and they're chanting, and they're strong,
and they're they're excited, and that'swhat we need to win Virginia and

(01:48:26):
also the whole presidential race this year. People are excited across the nation because
they're sick and tired of being beingtaxed to death, and they're sick and
tire being told what to do.I mean, government's there to you know,
do what we tell them to do, not the other way aro out.
Yeah, oh, exactly. Gettingback to a loud in County Virginia
and Virginia. I know it wouldbe huge if President Trump and you could

(01:48:48):
both win those races in November.What makes Virginia obviously so difficult and has
made it so blue in certain partsof that state, that commonwealth, is
the fact that you know, they'vegot to protect official Washington, DC because
so many people work and live forthe federal government in that part of the

(01:49:11):
country. They don't want their goodiesto be taken away. They don't want
their jobs to be threatened by somebodywho was in favor of deregulation and less
taxation and shrinking, hopefully one day, shrinking the size of our government where
we're not spending two hundred and thirtysix percent of the GDP on our debt.
I mean, that is really thetough hurdle in Virginia, isn't it.

(01:49:36):
It is, But we don't haveto win Northern Virginia. I did
need to move it the way Idid in twenty twenty two, where I
moved to thirteen percent, and thesouth comes out. And when I see
the south, it's not very farsouth. I'm talking about Rappahanno County,
Fuckier County, and then Prince WilliamCounty on down, so that's still very
north. But all those counties downthere, they're excited. They're excited to

(01:49:58):
see, you know, change inthe government. They decided to see people
that are going to fight for them, and that's why we know we're going
to win Virginia. I mean,we win Virginia, that's thirteen electoral votes
and that basically decides the whole presidentialrace altogether. Tell me a little bit
more about the book. Any particularstory come to mind that you could mention

(01:50:19):
without giving things away, Because wewant to get people fired up about call
me an American. Tell me astory or two from the book that will
peau people's interests. Well. Firstof all, the meritocracy is a big
thing, right, I Mean,in America, it's always one of those
things that pays to be a winner. I mean, that's what they teach

(01:50:41):
you at high school, at budsand everything else. You finish first,
and then you get to relax whileeverybody else catches up well. Likewise with
meritocracy. You know, I wentto the top high school in the country.
For decades, it was number one, but then the left change the
whole entrance requirement so that it couldbe more equitable, and so the school
dropped to now one, to numberfive, and then very recently dropped at

(01:51:03):
fourteen in the country. But meritocracy, I know. I learned meritocracy in
the French schools because they hand youout the report cards and order of merit.
So you line up and the teachercalls out, you know, by
number one, first person to thehighest grade, and then all the way
down to the last person, andthen you sit based on the order of

(01:51:24):
merit. So top right is thealways the number one, and then it
goes all the way down. ButI always noticed that the pretty French girls
were always the top of their class, so it gave me incentive to work
as hard as I can to getup there with them instead of being back
with these smelly French boys. Well, plus, you want to hang with
the pretty French girls, don't you, exactly, So that's that's how I

(01:51:48):
learned meritocracy. I'm like, wow, it does pay to be a winner.
Yeah, yeah, no doubt aboutit. So all of this nonsense
that we've has been pervading almost everyelement of society, especially during the Biden
administration, this concentration on DEI andUH diversity equity. People get confused.

(01:52:10):
They think equity means equality and it'sactually the opposite of equality. But UH
DEI seems to be fading as faras public favor and as far as the
fad that it it has been.Uh, do you feel like we're going
away from this? You know,you've got to have you've got to be

(01:52:31):
a certain have a certain characteristic toget a job in Washington, d C.
Or be a part of the administration. You know, we we don't
have a trans Portuguese woman, uhin this department or that department, or
this cabinet or that cabinet. Bidenare going full steam ahead with this,
but it's it's starting to lose itsluster in the corporate world. And I'm

(01:52:53):
thankful, I'm grateful to see that. Do you see that also? Yes,
in the corporate world. Yes,then it's the government still doing it.
And look, everybody believes in diversity, and it's diversity of backgrounds,
not of color of your skin.It's the diversity of background, you know,
me growing up in Africa and growingup in the United States and going

(01:53:14):
to all the schools I did.That's the diversity you need. And then
the inclusion. Of course, wewant everybody to be included. But the
equity part is what I hate themost because it sounds like you said,
like equality, but it's not thesame. It means that everybody finished this
same. Now you can look atme, I'm five foot six, you
know, Asian guy. I'm notgoing to play in the NFL or the

(01:53:35):
NBA. It's just not what it'sthere for. Now you throw some math
problems at me. I'm winning thatevery day. But it's just to say
that we're all going to be thesame at the end. I mean,
that's just another word for communism andsocialism and Martianism. It doesn't work that
way, no, And that's exactlywhat I'm talking about. And you're stressing

(01:53:57):
just from your life and know onlyhow important meritocracy is to not only getting
ahead and being first, but alsoto have a fulfilled life. I mean,
exceptionalism is what truly brought this countryto a great place in the world,
and it seems like there are forcestrying to tell us that we're not

(01:54:19):
exceptional anymore, and we don't haveto be exceptional. And it's just a
bunch of junks. It's a bunchof Unamerican junk. No. Yeah,
so you're right. I mean,who wants to live in the worst country
world or the second worst country,yeah, or even the second best country.
We want to live in the bestcountry in the world. And look,

(01:54:40):
there's a reason why China and Russiado not have an immigration problem because
no one wants to go there becauseit sucks. You know, everybody wants
to come to the United States.Oh, any any parting words for us?
Hunkou as we go? Do youhave a campaign website you want to
mention or anything like that? Yes, please, it's go to hung for
va dot com. That's h un g flr va dot com. Your

(01:55:04):
listeners may not be able to votefor me, but I can vote for
them, right My vote in theSenate will stop a lot of this idiocy.
You know, I'm reading right nowthat they buy the administration's flying people
back in that the Trump administration deportedI mean, I've heard of catching and
release, but this is ridiculous,and it's just one of those things where
I will fight for you every day. If you're an American, I'm going

(01:55:27):
to fight for you because the onlyperson better off the day than they were
four years ago is an illegal alienand we've got to stop this. Well,
you came as a refugee, andimmigration in twenty twenty four is not
the same. It's not the samething. And people who equate that with
the same thing of the great waveof immigration in the early nineteen hundreds or
somebody coming from Vietnam and doing itlegally as opposed to what's happening now on

(01:55:53):
our southern border and has been encouraged, is ridiculously different. And people who
can draw those those parallels are obviouslyon acid or something. Hung cow.
Thank you so much, Yes,sir, thank you so much for having
me. It's the biggest news andtrending news events from around the world at
the top end and bottom of theally. This is fifty five k r

(01:56:16):
s the talk speag. This reportis sponsored by Low's Celebrate July fourth with
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right, Huey, Yeah, somethinglike that someday and some day that's at

(01:56:41):
least until I die. Damn ifyou damned, If you don't, damn
well, I won't. Hugh LewisCraig Happy birthday, eweing one of my
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(01:57:02):
Herzog, who was also a HueyLewis fanatic. The reasons for mine are
well founded and solid, besides justfanboy stuff and being a slave to Back
to the Future, which, bythe way, Joe, did you tell
me today's the anniversary of the releaseof the original Back to the Future July

(01:57:27):
fourth weekend, nineteen eighty five.Okay, but anyway, Happy birthday,
Hueie. Good guy, down toEarth rock star. If there is such
a thing, he is that,and it's sad that his hearing problems have
prevented him from continuing to tour andrecord music. By the way, just

(01:57:49):
some corrections from the top of thehour news. The forty five year old
man who was shot over the rhineyesterday and taken to UC Medical Center has
died. His name was Christian Pearson, happing on Wall Street Walnut Street about
six o'clock last night and over theRhine. It's a shame, but I

(01:58:18):
mean, are you like some ofthe nonsensical people and would blame the guns
or blame the prevalence of guns onthe streets for the continuing saga of murder
and mayhem that are going on inplaces like over the Rain or South Cumminsville.

(01:58:39):
As somebody was shot last night.About five people shot last night in
and around Cincinnati. They just mightas well have been stabbed. It's a
people problem, not a gun problem. But it's a problem, there's no
question about that. And I heardthat they added to top of the hour

(01:59:03):
the basically the pro Abortion Ad.I can't remember what the organization was,
but they're warning people about senators inWashington, d c. Voting on an
abortion band bill. Not does SupremeCourt finally settled this. It goes to

(01:59:25):
the states. That's what constitutionally iscalled for. When they overturned Roe v.
Wade, they did not make abortionillegal in this country, which was
another misnomer. And it's going tobe an issue on the ballot in November

(01:59:46):
and the presidential election, no questionabout that. It's one of the few
things that Democrats have is their cultof death via unborn babies. But it's
left up to the states. AndI think the state used as an example
in that commercial was Wisconsin, whereapparently there's a ban on almost all abortions,

(02:00:13):
especially late term abortions. As thewoman was talking about having to go
to another state, she still gotthe abortion she desired. I mean,
it's really up to where you liveand if you want to influence that,
influence your local politicians, your locallegislatures, your local governors. Leave Washington

(02:00:40):
out of it. That's what theSupreme Court said in the Dobbs decision,
and I thought that was settled.But you have to have some kind of
election issue. You have to havesome kind of risk for the mill and
the Democrats have to have, youknow, something, an issue that they

(02:01:04):
can stand on. You know.That's that's an awful that's an awful hill
to die on, to choose todie on, you know, Joe,
I can't even I didn't even havemy my phone bank racked up here.

(02:01:25):
Who is on the line there?Oh, oh, merlele oh. I
definitely want to talk to Merle.How you doing this morning, Merle?
Hey, I'm fine. I'm up. It's a wonderful, glorious day and
I'm celebrating Independence Day for the weekend. Well, yeah, I think it
ought to I think it ought tobe at least a week long, if
not a month, the entire monthof July. But I'm glad, absolutely.

(02:01:50):
But there's something really special going ontoday in Cincinnati. Yes, I
mean really special. What is it? The Lord is brought to Cincinnati and
he's at Saint Grigerd Parish right now. And there is a six mile walk
carrying the Lord from MacDonald Commons inMadeira to Saint Cecilia Church in Oakley.

(02:02:16):
And this is going to start ata thirty this morning, which stops along
the way from Mass and downtown tomorrowdowntown Cincinnati, from the Holy Cross Immaculata
Church in Mount Adams downtown to theCathedral Basilica. And that's from a forty
five that's only a mile and sixone point six miles. Right, So

(02:02:41):
you say the Lord, I mean, I mean the Lord. I mean
the Lord. We believe that thatbeautiful white host that people see in a
golden monstrance is God. Well,I believe that Jesus was God on earth.
Well, we believe that that's Jesusin the white host. Well,
I mean that's what Catholics believe,that that's really Jesus God, and he's

(02:03:05):
being carried in procession in Cincinnati todayand tomorrow and Saturday and Sunday. Well,
that's fantastic. Thank you for lettingus know about it. So it
starts today thirty this morning. Isthat what you said, dear right?

(02:03:26):
True? Yeah? Okay, Well, thanks Merle for the tip. It's
great to hear your voice as always. Man, you sound bouncy and bright
this morning. I'll probably see youtomorrow. Well, okay, great,
very very nice, Merle. Sheis incredible. She's going on ninety two
and spent her ninetieth birthday with usat the bar that I work in.

(02:03:51):
That's right. The lady who isgoing to be walking with the Lord today,
she said, had a bird andwater always has just one. Came
in with her niece and celebrated herninetieth birthday, and then last year came
back for ninety one. She isa hoot. I tell you who's fantastic.

(02:04:15):
And we're going to be with himin just a moment is a man
named Lee Habib. She got meoff my abortion rant. Well good for
her. I was going somewhere,but it was broken up by Merle and
there's nothing better than Merle. LeeHabib, who was a host of something

(02:04:36):
called Our American Stories and it ishistory to a fine point with a focus
on specific individuals. And for IndependenceWeek, one of those individuals that Lee
Habib and Our American Stories focused onwas the great Thomas Paine, the man

(02:04:56):
who wrote common sense and helped spurpeople and their imaginations to imagining what self
governance would look like instead of beingruled by the British Crown or by another
tyrant or king. We will talkto Lee Habib coming up next as we
continue Independence Week. It's eight fifteenand this is fifty five KRC, the

(02:05:21):
talk station. Our Artie they'll bedsVenue Leori had to Race, Don't You
Cry No? On Independence Week weare taking some time out to talk to

(02:05:41):
the man behind Our American Stories.It's a fantastic series of radio shows and
they've got just incredible videos out andthe man behind them is a guy that
I really love talking to because he'sa radio guy like me. Lee Habib.
Welcome to Independence Week with Gary Jams. Well, thanks, thanks for

(02:06:03):
having me. It's a great week. It's the most important week aside if
you're a Christian, we know theimportant weeks, but if you're an American,
this is the week. This isthe way we celebrate our birthday and
our birth certificate. And as manypeople who have highlighted in the show,
if you were an American and aChristian, it's really important those two go

(02:06:27):
hand in hand when it comes tothis particular holiday. There's no doubt.
Look, God's all over the Declaration. He's mentioned four times four times,
and Jefferson does that writing Jefferson noless. So there's no question that many
of if not all, some comesfrom the Enlightenment. But in the end,
man should not be Man should notbe governed by kings. Man has

(02:06:51):
an available right to govern himself andno one should come between him and his
God. This was the biggest pointthat it's God and government, not God
government man. Yeah, excellent fundamentalshift in world history. You have a
great piece on Thomas Pain that you'rehighlighting is is kind of a beacon for

(02:07:13):
today. If we have that samekind of Thomas Pain mentality about us.
Maybe we can overcome some of theseincredible hurdles and obstacles that have been front
put in front of those who werepursuing the American dream. In twenty twenty,
well, we write about what painwas going up against the colonists,
right, and it was simple.The King was moving in on the colonists

(02:07:36):
to more tightly govern us and haddenfor a long time a period of statalatory
neglect, salutary neglect. And thecolonists, well there some hate it,
but some don't. Most historians agreethat the country was flit in thirds.
A third one with the with thepatriots, a third one with the king,
and the third wie hiding under theirdesks. Sound familiar, yeah,

(02:07:58):
But the third were Man, We'resaying, look, we have been governing
ourselves for a long time. Weaim to do it now ourselves forever.
We want a divorce. Thomas Painewrote into that by basically talking about the
elites, the ruling elites from England, the Parliament and the King. And
by the way, a lot ofus think there are ruling elites governing us

(02:08:20):
today. And the distant power isn'tWashington. See, the dist empower is
in London, it's Washington, DC, and Brussels, the European Union and
the World Economic Forum, the DeVoscrowd, and so what he wrote,
this is an interesting little paragraph frompain and he's talking about the elites.
Male and female. Are the distinctionsof nature, he wrote, good in
bed the distinctions of heaven. Buthow a rays of men came into the

(02:08:43):
world so exalted above the rest anddistinguished like some new species is worth inquiring
into, and whether they are themeans of happiness or of misery to mankind.
And this is his enjoinder to takeaim as he rips the monarchy and
he rips the elites. And what'sfascinating is the king's response, because here's

(02:09:09):
what the king writes in reply tothe men who wrote the Declaration of Independence.
He wrote, when the happy anddeluded multitude, So this is what
he's called our founders and the Americanswho are for the patriots. He might
as well have written deplorable, right, Oh, absolutely, he says when
he and this is his threat andpromise, because he's basically saying, we're

(02:09:33):
already fighting, by the way,at this point, we wrote the declaration
in the midst of the fight.He says, against whom this force will
be directed shall become sensible of theirerror. He's saying, look, I
know, once we come, you'llget sensible. You are just deluded.
Temporarily, he says, I shallbe ready to receive the misled misinformation.
I will be ready to receive themisled with tenderness and mercy you poured,

(02:09:58):
dumb butts. Right, you put, And in order to prevent the inconveniences
which may have arived from our greatdistance. That's why you don't. You
have lost your mind. You're toofar from us. And to remove as
soon as possible the calamities which yousuffer, I shall give authority to all
persons under my rule to spot togrant general or particular pardons and indemnities immediately.

(02:10:22):
In other words, you still havea chance to bail out, you
idiots. Of course, this rallied, This rallied the patriots, This rallied
the country. And by the way, when you start calling us deplorables and
racists and everything else because we simplywant to govern ourselves, well you're going
to make a lot more Americans.Conservatives. Yeah, Ted Thomas Paine was

(02:10:48):
like the conservative, the lone conservativevoice with his pamphlets and his common sense
and the like at the time ofthe Revolutionary War. I mean we have
those people today as well, butagain they're kind of like a voice in
the wilderness a lot of times.And you've got to you have a screen
pretty loud to be heard above theden of the others who are just willing

(02:11:11):
to be compliant to the powers thatbe well, and I would just urge
anybody listening to go. I've writtena piece on this type in lee Abib
and Newsweek and Pain and you canactually read his writing and then go and
read common Sense, because I ampromising you everything we were fighting then for
and against is exactly the same fight. Do we have the right to govern

(02:11:35):
ourselves? We do want elected bureaucrats, the w H Show, the Gates
Foundation, and all kinds of nongoverning bodies like the like the like the
the World Economic Forum or the orthe British, the British, French,
German and European essentially the European Union. Who do we respond to the Paris

(02:11:58):
Accords or the American This is whatelections are about. Self rule and these
fifty pesty states who each have constitutionsof their own. That's America. You
want to live in Berkeley, livein Berkeley, You want to live in
Birmingham, live in Birmingham. Ifyou want Cincinnati, live in Cincinnati.
This is a huge, big swathof land with many different and beautiful ways

(02:12:22):
to run your states and run ourcountry. And we are literally having the
same fight we'd common sense. You'llbe inspired to take up you'll be inspired
to take up a microphone. Wedon't need to take up a bayonet.
Take up that microphone. Share ThomasPaine with friends. They'll love it absolutely.
Lee have biebye. I love ourAmerican stories. You guys continue to

(02:12:43):
crank out great, great profiles ofgreat Americans and others on a regular basis.
And I just love the format ofwhat you do. And you talk
about you want to live in Berkeley. I don't know who wants to live
in Berkeley right now. You wantto live in Birmingham, And you were
talking about you want to live inCincinnati. When I first moved to this

(02:13:05):
area in nineteen ninety four, Ilived in lots of people love Cincinnati,
and I, you know, byosmosis, because I'm here, I must
love Cincinnati. After being here foras long as I have thirty years.
But when I was living in Cincinnati, in Ohio, and I looked across
the river at Kentucky and it wasamazing how different just crossing that river was

(02:13:33):
when I moved to Kentucky. Soyou're right to have that freedom of movement
and that freedom to determine how you'regoing to live where you live. That's
the whole American dream and a nutshellto me. And it is and the
respect that we lived differently and chooseto live differently. If you want to
live in a little apartment building inthe middle next to Central Park and pay

(02:13:54):
eight thousand dollars a month so youcan walk on concrete to your office,
It's not my thing, but itmight be your thing. I like my
five acres and my thirty chickens.They might think I'm crazy, that's fine.
Don't you don't name your chickens though, right Lee, My wife and
daughter named some of them, andI'm too old to you to remember their
name, so certainly not gonna rememberthe chickens name. Oh thank you for

(02:14:18):
being a part of our Independence Week. Lee, habib our American stories and
the latest done. Mister Thomas Paynelook for it. Thanks, thank you
so much. Thanks Lee. Byebye. Fifty five KRC and iHeart Radio
Station, the exclusive audio home onNBC's coverage of the twenty twenty four paras

(02:14:39):
Olympics. Good on my blue sweetshoes and boded the plane touchdown in the
land of the Dulsa Blues in themiddle of the poor doleac hand. Won't

(02:15:00):
shoot down on me. Jack gotthe first class ticket. But I'm as
blue as the bar can becketing andwalking and talking with you on this Friday,
July fifth, Gary Jeff Walker infor Brian Thomas. Great to be
with you. Police in Tulsa,Oklahoma investigating what happened this week. You

(02:15:26):
know what happened. Somebody wound updead in the ninety second hundred block of
East ninetieth Street. According to theBroken Arrow Sentinel, the fatal shooting of
a guy who was stealing from somebody'struck in their driveway. His wife is

(02:15:52):
questioning why he was shot. Hesaid, me and him got into an
argument because I don't do that,the words steal, But her husband,
who wound up dead, was doingthat. He was seen breaking into a
truck trying to steal items from insideit when two residents of the home came
outside to say, hey, quittrying to steal her stuff, Police said,

(02:16:16):
an argument ensued, after which theowner of the vehicle shot the man.
The station reported. Police responded andfound a black sedan which had been
driven up on the curve and cometo a stop. Officers found a male
with a gunshot wounded the chest,and an unknown female doing chest compressions on
him. The man died after theemergency personnel took him to the hospital in

(02:16:39):
critical condition. Anyway, the detectivestook the witnesses and those involved to headquarters
for questioning, and two of theaforementioned residents of the home said, I
don't underderstand why he was shot becausethere were two men and just him.

(02:17:03):
Why not hold him at gunpointer orwhy not beat him up because you're not
allowed to steal somebody else's staff attheir home. I'm a big I'm a
big fan of stand your ground laws. I'm a big fan of castle doctrines.
Somebody comes into your house uninvited,you have the right to use deadly

(02:17:24):
force. Even if you believe youare not directly threatened with physical harm.
It doesn't matter they're intruders, theirtrespassers. They shouldn't be there and they
should know better. I think moreof that kind of attitude should also reflect

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how we deal with people who breakinto our country, catch and release,
no cross the line without an invitation, suffer the consequences. That's harsh,
I understand, but that's just me. I would give out my address on

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the air if anybody wants to testthe theory, but I want my wife
to think about so I won't.Why did they shoot him and take away
my kid's daddy, Well, yourkid's daddy pretty much did that himself on
his own, lady. Coming upon eight thirty seven, we will talk

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totally switch gears and talk about somethinggood that is going on in our community
locally and someone who was helping proliferatethat good. My buddy Andy Furman joins
us to talk about the Point arcin northern Kentucky. Here in just a
few moments. It's eight thirty seven. I'm Gary Jeffan from bright On fifty

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five KRC the talk station Bombay seventynine. Ad of All Can has some
storms likely during the early afternoon hours, high of eighty six today tomorrow up
to eighty six as well, alot less humidity in the air, and
Sunday Sonny even warmer, going tobe a nice looking wheat cat. Here's
Chuck Ingram with another check on theroads from the ucl Traumphings Center. The

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University of Cincinnati Cancer Center is openingthe most comprehensive blood center of the nation.
The future of cancer is here calledfive one three five eighty five.
UCCC. Cruise continue to work withfire that is at the Duke Energy substation.
Butterworth is blocked outside of Mainville betweenSimpson and Ascot because of it.
Cruise are working with an accident onRiver Road near Hillside, and there's a

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wreck below Terrace Park on Round Bottomjust west of South Milford Road. Chuck
Ingram on fifty five KRC the talkstation. All right, I've known this
guy for geez, I guess goingon thirty years, and he still talks

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to me and vice versa, SoI guess it's going all right. As
far as that part of the relationship, I would say that we've probably been
closer in the last few years thanat any other time. He is a
man who was a jack of manytrades. He is a great writer and

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journalist, and he at one timeor another did promotions for race tracks.
He's a pr guy first and foremost, though, and he's also known as
a Cincinnati sports voice. He wasthe voice of seven hundred WLWS sports talk
back in the day, and hestill does some sports radio. This morning,

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though we are talking about his otherjob. At the point arc the
one and only Andy Furman joins in, good morning, fir Ball, how
are you well? Good morning toyou. Thank you so much for having
me. I hope you and Jue, you and your wife enjoyed the fourth
of July. It was wonderful.The weather kind of held out a little
bit, so that was great.And I wanted to say one thing if

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I can, I certainly appreciate theintroduction of the time year. I've never
been on these sacred airwaves of fiftyfive kr see, which brings up a
story for me which I never sharedreally with anyone. It was it's an
unbelievable story because this great radio stationwas the home of one great Jerry Thomas,
the late Jerry Thomas, whose sonBrian basically is sitting in his chair
right now. And this goes backprobably twenty maybe twenty plus years I was

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at seven hundred at the time.You know, I'm at Fox Sports Radio
now, and there was an eventon the west side of Cincinnati, and
for the love of me, Ican't remember exactly where it was, but
Jim Scott, may he rest inpeace, I love him. Dearly morning.
Me on seven hundred and Jerry Thomaswere there together and the Whoether book
that must have been shaking their heads, say why did I do this?

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Because it was tense. It wasa tense situation was as you know,
those two guys were one two orone on one a in the mornings,
and basically at that point in time, it was not under one umbrella.
They were two separate radio stations ownedby two different companies. The merger was
not in yet, be it byiHeart or anybody else, Clear Channel,

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you name it, but there weretwo separate stations. There was a tense
situation for Jim Scott, God blesshim, kind of paved the way,
introduced Jerry Thomas and the evening letoff without a hitch. But it was
a little tense because there's a lotof buzzing going around in that room.
To still let you know, didyou think that it was going to come
to fisticuffs between Jerry and you know. But you know, I think there

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was a professional competition between the two. I don't think it was hatred,
but I think it was professional.So they weren't going to come to blows
at any moment. No, no, no, not at all. Would
have pained to see that, Andy, I really would. I would have
loved I. Well, I mean, I mean, Jim obviously, the
taller competitor, would have a reachadvantage, but Jerry, just because he

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was a little bit shorter than Jim, had the proximity to do damage to
Jim's midsection more readily. Well.Yeah, I think Jerry had a little
more speed. I think Jerry maybea little quicker maybe. I don't know
what would have been tough. I'mglad it didn't come to that. You
wanted me to talk about point dark. Yeah, at the point in that

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in northern Kentucky. It's on oneO four West Pish Street in Comington,
and it's a wonderful situation, wonderfulorganization. I had never known the ins
and outs of until I thought itthere. And the founder and president,
Judy Gurdon, she get this,she turns eighty four on August the third,
she puts in twelve hour days.She's a wonderful woman. August August

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the third, that's my mother's birthday, and my mother will return. My
mother will turn eighty seven on Augustthird. But she's not running an organization
like the Point. So that's Imean, that's incredible. And you say
it's Judy's eighty third birthday or eightyfourth, eighty fourth on our eighty thirty

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year ago she threw out the firstpitch at the Reds game. That's unbelievable.
You know, we had a littlequiz the other day. We have
a weekly staff meeting on Tuesday.He went around the room. They asked
the question, what's so unusual aboutthe Point, And someone chirped up and
said, you know what's unusual aneighty three year old woman coming to work
every day and putting in twelve hourdays, that's unusual. She's a dynamic,

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she's wonderful, and she's the typeof woman you'd run through a gasoline
fire for. She just got wegot we got an eighty one year old
president who can't work six days aweek, six hours in a day.
So yeah, that is pretty darnincredible. Andy that that is a testament
really is to her grateful. Itell you what, it's time for a
quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about the point does specifically

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and what you do for them.Andy Furman is our guest here in our
last few moments on Independence Week.It's July fifth, fifty five KRC the
talk station. Hey, hey,hey, a great weekend on the way.
We just have to get past thisFriday with some storm possibilities this afternoon

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and tonight, no matter how slightthey may be. And high today around
eighty six degrees and again the restof the weekend looks great. Sonny and
Lession, there's Chuck Ingram one finaltime from the UCL Tranmthhings Center. The
University of Cincinnati Cancer Center is openingthe most comprehensive blood center in the nation.

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The future of cancer is here calledfive one three, five eighty five.
See see Cruise continue to work withfire that is at the Duke Energy
substation. Butterworth is blocked outside ofmein Bill between Simpson and Ascot of it.
Cruise are working with an accident onRiver Road near Hillside, and there's
a wreck below Terrace Park on roundBottom just west of South Milford Road,

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Chucking romon fifty five k R seethe talk station. You put a boot
in your ass. It's American waya sound put your name at the top
of his list and statue. Everit's started sick in this and an eagle
wheel fly Man that's gone on mewhen you him mother Freedom start a rigging

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her bell out in a few likethe Whole Line group, he's raining down,
singatob Ross courtesy other and Wide andthe Lake Patriot Toby Keith. As
we get ready to close the show, and we are back with Andy Furman
talking about the Point Arc in northernKentucky. What exactly does the Point arcd

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Andy, I don't have to say. The mission of the Point Dark basically
is to give people, idd individuals, individuals with developmental disabilities, the opportunity
to feel as if they are partof the community. Give them a chance.
And how do they do that.It's an amazing community. It's almost
a mini city if you will.The Point Dark has eighteen residential homes.
What does that mean? That meansthere's eighteen homes that are functioning twenty four

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to seven three and the sixty fivedays a year, No more than two
to three people clients in those homesand basically they can have a life of
their own in those homes for parentsand guardians who feel as if they can't
handle them, maybe they're too oldto handle their children, God their god
children, whatever it may be.So there's eighteen residential homes. But more

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than that, there's enterprises that theyhave where these people with IDD situations can
work. For example, we havethe Point Perk, a coffee shop.
They work there. We have anapparel shop. They may hoodies, t
shirts, hats, caps, whateverit may be, so they work at
the apparel shop. We have aPoint commercial laundry which services many of the

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hotels in the Covington area and theywork there. So there's opportunities where these
people could go out in the publicand become a community citizen and they feel
as if they are part of it. First him, I got an example
for it is an amazing story.We have a woman at the Point at
the Point, her name is BritneyBrookholder. She basically places some of these

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IDD individuals in the community to workat various workplaces and businesses. We have
a young man and I'm not goingto mention the name because of hippo rules.
But he basically came to Brittany.Brittany kind of matched him up with
Strong's Brickoff and Pizza in Newport.He works there now three days a week
and they love it. And theStrongs people have gone public and saying,

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look, you know, we lovehim. He's great for us. It's
a marriage made in heaven, andwe we applaud that. We applaud the
Point, but we would love tosee other communities, to see other businesses,
at least in the New Polaria,to go out there and hire some
people from the Point Are. Soit's a beautiful marriage, it really is.
And these people without these opportunities wouldjust be warehoused somewhere, no doubt,

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or you know, their families docare for them and care about them.
That's why they place them with thePoint Arc. But these people have
a lot to offer the rest ofsociety. And that's the thing. So
many times, so many times,we put limits on what people can be

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capable of, and I think that'santi American in and of itself. I
think that it's anti tithical to theAmerican dream and becoming everything you can possibly
be, regardless of your limitations,And look, Andy, we all have
limitations. I'm becoming more and morefamiliar with mine every day that I get

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a little bit older, and I'mfamiliar with us too. Yeah, I
knew you were going to go there, but no. But the fact that
there is a place for people whootherwise would not have those opportunities to have
those opportunities to actually feel productive andto be productive and to live a more
filled life. I think that's awonderful thing. And you just write the

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press releases and well get the wordout like like I'm doing to you right
now. What's exactly they doing andthe various stories that happened there, And
let me share a sports story withyou. Was it kind of released to
sports? You know? I wasborn in Britain, Brooklyn, and twice
a week I wreft for the BrooklynDaily Eagle, And this Monday I have
a story about the late Carl Earthgoing to just recently pissed at ninety seven
years of age. One of thelast remaining Brooklyn Dodgers, the last one

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right now, is Sandy Colfax.He and his wife Betty gave birth to
a young boy years ago and thedoctors went crazy, called them a mongoloid.
Well, basically they found out lateron there's not a mongolo He had
down syndrome and they wanted to puthim in an institution, and Betty and
Carl said, no, no way, no way, He's going to be
with us. Betty said, look, I carried him for nine months.

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He's my son. And Carl basically, you know, he pitched two no
hitters in Major League Baseball, butwhat he has done for Special Olympics is
unbelievable. And basically their son Jimmy, and they claimed he wouldn't live by
ten years of age. He passedaway when he was sixty three. He
had a tremendous life thanks to thework of Carl Erskin, who pitched for
the Brooklyn Dodgers, and I thinkhe paved the way not only for Special

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Olympics, but for medical people aswell, to see that, yes,
there is a place in society forthese people and they could work, and
they're qualified, and they're good peopleand we should not shy away from them.
So this Carl Erskin did a lotoff the field, more so maybe
than on the field. Well,and that's something that the point ARC is

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continuing with their work. It soundslike you finally got hooked up with the
right crowd in your life and I'mplaying straight now, that's what it is.
Hey, listen, have a fantastichave a fantastic rest of the Independence
weekend. Andy Fourman at the PointArc, thank you this morning as we

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close out. It's been my pleasureas all was, to be with you
here, as Andy said, onthese sacred airwaves of fifty five WKRC in
Cincinnati, and until next time,Happy Independence Day, Happy Independence Week,
Happy Pride Month. In America theentire month of July, we ought to

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be celebrating our birthday all month long. So party on Garth you are twenty
twenty four election headquarters. Every votershould be asking whether America can survive four
more years of fifty five KRC thetalk station