55KRC Monday Show - Ken Kober, Jennifer Gross, Smitherman, Money Monday

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Five o five.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think about KRC the talk station Happy Monday, serious.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Say will it was a education.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Worker out, Yeah, you can pretty much say that. I
hope you had a wonderful weekend. Brian, Tim's right here,
glad to see Joe strek Roy belongs and looking forward
to heaving. Kencober FLP president joined the program coming up
at six point thirty to discuss this horrific murder, which
is what the prosecutor's office is calling it of the
sheriff's deputy who was well intentionally targeted and killed by

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the father of the eighteen year old who was by
all accounts, pointing a firearm at a police officer. And
we all know what happened on that one found that
out last week eighteen year old no longer with US.
Ey body camera footage released. If I don't know if
you've seen it or not, it's not crystal clear, and
therein lives of challenge as we move forward, worried about

(01:17):
protests and obviously dad didn't take it real well. But
you know, you got to ask yourself out loud, what's
an eighteen year old doinger with a forty caliber glock
handgun with an extended magazine and it is stolen car.

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I imagine that's lots of process. As a parent, I'm not
quite sure how I would process it, but don't think
I would react the way that it all fell up
came in so can Colbert joined us at six point
thirty off for his thoughts and comments on that tragedy.
Coming up, also seven oh five up State Representative Jennifer
gross on why you should vote no on issue too.

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Quite a few listeners have gotten in touch me you
have cared. We'll talk about issue too. I brought it
up from time to time. It just the problem that
problem is it's a constitutional amendment which we will enshrine.
This what I'm calling slush fund. But we'll allow Jennifer
to offer her thoughts and comments on that. Coming up
at seven oh five Christopher Smithman, it is Monday. We
do the Smither event every Monday at seven twenty former

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Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, and I have
a feeling he'll also have some a thing or two
to say about the the murder of the sheriff's deputy,
but also that this details about what led up to it,
and maybe a comment or two about why an eighteen
year old be caring a glock twenty three forty caliber

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firearm with an extended magazine Monday. Monday, Brian James. Today,
we'll talk about consumer confidence being low in spite of
the fact and jobless claims up actually at a decent
jobs a new jobs report filed last week. You at
least it exceeded expectations. Young workers report burnout and living
paycheck to paycheck. Plus Starter Home is beginning at one

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million dollars. That seems to be a little out of
everyone's reach, at least that's my perception. Finally cares, he cares.
Maybe question marks since a VA may join the program
at eight forty so I hope they do. But if not,
we'll muddle through and talk about, well what you want
to talk about, which you can steer the co direction
of the conversation. I always invite listeners to call five one, three, seven,

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four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two three
Taco with pound five fifty on at and T phone
over the weekend. Haven't kind of Sheriff's office release identity
of that deputy that was killed in the crash Friday
by the father of the man whose son was killed
and the officer involved shooting eighteen years old with the
glock twenty three forty caliber hang on with an extended magazine.
It was Deputy Larry Henderson, sheriff's deputy for thirty three years,

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served in multiple specialized units. Listen to this. He was
not always the Academy instructor, dive Team member, HCPA SWAT,
FBI task for officer, and he was with the bomb
unit as well at some point HCSO Bomb Unit. Helvin
County Sheriff charlel MANE McGuffey said in a statement on Saturday.
In Deputy Henderson's early tenure as a Sheriff's deputy, I
recognized his talent for teaching and presentation. Larry began his

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journey as a Sheriff's office trainer early in his career,
developed the expertise and became an excellent trainer. Subsequently trained
divisions on a Hemlon County Sheriff's Office that include hundreds
of deputy sheriffs. His ability to relate to and touch
officers' lives was extraordinary. We will continue to honor Larry's
life of service and his badge is going to be retired.

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Badge number one twenty nine will be retired from the
Hemmon County Sheriff's Office. Least accorded information from the spokesperson there, Jase,
it's a shame. Governor Line, for his part, is ordered
flags to be flown at half staff across the state
in honor of the late Hemlon County Sheriff's Deputy Larry Henderson.

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Order takes took place Sunday night last night and last
until sunset on the day of his funeral. Take place
all across Hamilton County, in addition of the Ohio State House,
the Verne Rifle Center, and Rhodes State Office Tower. Additionally,
all other public buildings in the state will be permitted

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to five flags his staff at their discretion. I'd like
to see a lot of them being flown at half
staff in honor of this well. Obviously he had a
great career at the Sheriff's office. No announcement got on
the funeral arrangements, but Charmie McGuffey said that they would
be publicly announced soon then. So far as what the

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court documents explain about what led to the fatal crash,
Fox nineteen reporting Hamilton County municipal court affidavit states that
based on numerous witness statements and evidence found at the scene,
Rodney Hinton Junior, that's the father of the kid who

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had the gun jove eastbound across oncoming lanes through the
intersection of Martin Luther King Drive and Burnout Wood's Drive
and directly at the deputy, who was wearing a uniform
as well as a bright fluorescent vest. According to court documents,
the deputy was standing on the sidewalk at the corner

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of the intersection, outside of the lanes of travel, doing
traffic control. A statement from the attorneys representing the Hinton
family explained that the day of the crash, the families,
along with the now incarcerated without bond, Rodney Hinton Junior,
met with CINCINNT Police Department watched the body cam footage

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involving Ryan Hinton. That's the eighteen year old kid with
the glock twenty three to forty caliber with the extended magazine.
See I keep bringing that up. I mention you was eighteen.
Family attorneys said that the family was understandably disraw as
they watched the video. The attorney statement goes on to

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say that after the meaning Rodney, Brian's father left in
his own vehicle and had not been heard from until
the news of the crash. In the statement, they say
on behalf of Brian Hinton's family, we offer our heartfelt
condolences to the family and college of the officer who
was just killed yesterday. This is an umaginable tragedy for
this community. Ryan Hinton's family is heartbroken by this tragic

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turn of events, and we're all devastated for the family
and the officer who was killed. So Rodney, for his part,
he's now in jail without bond, as I mentioned, charged
with aggravated murder in the death of the deputy, and
he's being held in the Claremont County jail. I guess
for looking looking out for his own safety. I suppose

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it's understandable that the attorneys would put him there that
Judge tyrone Yates County Municipal Court Judge tyrone Yates, who
was presiding over the suspects arraignment last week, put in
the Claremont County jail. This was an agreement made between
the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office and Claremont County for what

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I described as the defendant safety. That's according to Judge Yates,
they did not want to have any questions about him
being held in Hamilton County as a matter of safety
because the officer had been a Hamilton County deputy sheriff.
It makes perfect sense. You see how many the sheriff's
deputy showed up for that arraignment. Place was packed with
sheriff deputies. Obviously one of their own was murdered, intentionally

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run over. By all accounts, that's a strong showing of force.
And of course the Hamilton County Sheriff's office runs the jail,
so one can understand there might be a little bit
of concern expressed by the Hinton family on him being
locked up there. Yates and the arrayment asked the sheriff's
deputy if they have a safe environment in Claremont County

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of whether they'd returned to return Hinton to Hamilton County
in May for his bond hearing, and the deputy responded
yes to both questions. That w the Clairmont County deputy.
Apparently the younger Hinton had no record eighteen year old
Ryan Hinton no criminal history. Enquire looking it up found

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no records related to him. Rodney Hinton, No Dad Rodney
Hinton Junior went to Purcell Marrion. According to his Facebook post,
he pled guilty to assault and aggravated menacing in Middletown
Municipal Court in twenty twenty three. He sentenced to one
year of probation order to have no contact with the victims.
It's all we know about his background, although he did

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share a post about a couple of officers involved killings,
and he called for the rest of an officer who
shot a Titania Jefferson, a twenty eight year old black
woman in Texas, while responding to a call for a
wellness check. I'm not sure what you can draw by
overall conclusions on that, but we all know what happened.

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And again I'll point to and salute the Sheriff's deputies,
the Cincinni Police Department, and other police officers out there.
We're in the uniform every day for the benefit of
our safety and the fact that they have to deal
with armed eighteen year olds running amock and stolen vehicles
every single day or sometimes even worse. It's a tough job.

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It's worthy of our respect, and I wish our public
officials would do more to support the police or all
the folks in uniform, shriff's deputy's police department, and do
more to advance the interest of those organizations because they
do protect us, they do serve us. They're a pillar

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of the criminal justice system. Laws need to be enforced.
We need an arm to enforce those laws in the police.
I know they quite often are showing up after the
tragedy's hit, but someone to be held accountable, to be
held up in front of society as an example of
what will happen to you if you engage in criminal conduct.

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That's the point of having the sheriffs and the police
out there. You remove that pillar, it falls apart. No
one has any incentive follow the law. Five sixteen fifty
five kr SE Detalk station, Feel free to call. I got
plenty to talk about this morning until we get to
State Representative Jennifer Gross Well actually Ken Coober on this
issue at six point thirty, followed by State Representative Gross

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and Christopher Smithman at seven o'clock hour. I'll be right
back after these brief words.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
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Speaker 2 (11:35):
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podcast form. Speaking of law enforcement and our brave men

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and women in uniform who are working to enforce the
law which hopefully leads to prosecutions if guilt beyond a
reasonable doubt is established and the jail time is necessary,
we have a place to put them. I know that's
been a problem here in Havldon County for a while
because the overcrowding in the lock up. I'm not quite
sure the current situation, but apparently nationally we have a problem.

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I was kind of chuckling over this. Donald Trump's solution
to the problem. We've been sending these illegal immigrant criminals
to Guantanamo Bay as well as the El Salvadoran Seacot prison.
El Salvador is willing to take a bunch of them,
and I know that's through people the wrong way and
there's ongoing litigation over that. But moving aside from whether
it's appropriate or prudent to send them there need to

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send them someplace to have them blocked up because they
are criminals. Donald Trump proposed yesterday he wants to reopen
and rebuild Alcatraz Prison off San Francisco Coast, true social
media posts last evening. For too long, America has been
plagued by vicious, violent, repeat criminal offenders, the dregs of

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society who will never contribute anything other than misery and suffering.
That's a bold statement when we are a more serious nation.
In times past, we did not hesitate to lock up
the most dangerous criminals and keep them far away from
anyone they could harm. That's the way it's supposed to be.
No longer will we tolerate these serial offenders who spread filth, bloodshed,
and mayhem on our streets. We will no longer be

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held hostage to criminal thugs and judges that are afraid
to do their job and allow us to remove criminals
who came into our country illegally. The reopening of Alcatraz
will serve as a symbol of law, order and justice.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I really don't think that's a practical solution for a
variety of personally we I've read all kinds of accounts
about Alcatraz and one of the reasons they shut it
down because it was falling apart, high operational costs and
infrastructure challenges. Reportedly what led to its closure in nineteen
sixty three was not in operation between teen thirty four
nineteen sixty three. Court of Bureau of Prisons. An estimated

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three million to five million was needed to restore and
maintain the prison to keep it open. That was nineteen
sixty three, and I think that's nineteen sixty three dollars
a buck ain't what it used to be. And considering
you look at that California rail project, they haven't even
laid a single track and they've already blown through billions
of dollars. Hey, Joe, if it cost two billion dollars

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to build a modern football stadium, how much you think
it would cost to build a brand new prison out
in the middle of the water tree fitty that's close enough.
They'll be tree fitty billion, right anyway. Of course, it's
been closed more than sixty years. It's now a National
Historic Landmark and people tour it all the time. Apparently

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that's very popular. It's been in a lot of movies too.
They get more than a million visitors around the world
visiting Alcatraz every year a quarter of the Bureau of Prisons.
Trump was pressed by the media on the proposal. It's
just an idea I've had. It's long been a symbol Alcatraz.

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It's a sad symbol, but it's a symbol of law
and order. Well yeah, but practically speaking, I can only
imagine what the price tag on that would be to
continue to rebuild. For what, you know, building anything on
an island. You know, the transportation costs for all the materials,

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moving the workers out there and bringing them home every day.
It's just a nightmare scenario. Good point, Joe, and the
fact that it's California. I'm sure there's probably some environmental
lawsuit filed to stop it at its tracks, among other
lawsuits to be filed. Although there's an argument to be

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made that'd be some good union our work. Going back
to how much it would cost to rebuild Alcatraz Island. Anyhow,
I think Trump stepped at it the other day he
said he didn't know whether he was duty bound to
uphold the Constitution. This is going to inflame the left
and provide further arguments that Donald Trump wants to be

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a fascist dictator. He was asked whether the non citizens
are entitled to due process. The Fifth Amendment does require
it before any person within the US territory maybe deprived
of life, liberty of property. Quote, I don't know. I'm
not a lawyer, he said, I don't know. On meet
the protest over the weekend. While the Fifth Amendment might
say that, Trump said compliance would require a million or

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two million, or three million trials. He said, I was
elected to get them the hell out of here, and
the courts are holding me from doing it. Well, therein
lies the challenge. He's right, we're talking millions of trials.
But if they are in fact entitled to do process,
that's what you got to go through. I mean, it's
a challenge. And if the courts ordered Trump to go

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through that process, the host asks, don't you need to
uphold the Constitution of the United States as president? His response,
I don't know, And that puts you in a tricky
position when you've already sworn to uphold the constitution. He
fell back with I have to respond by saying, again,
I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they

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are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said,
so a little bit of a backpedaling on that, but
you know the SoundBite is, I don't know. So you know,
like you got guy like Richard Blomouth thought, big Democrat
senator out of Connecticut, President who doubts his most fundamental duty,
his sworn oath to the Constitution is unfit for office,

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defiance the laws becoming this administration's hallmark, threatening irreparable damage.
And there you can see the beginning of the next
wave of sound bites criticizing Donald Trump for uh well
found upholled his oath of office. I don't think it's
all played out yet, though, but he may have gotten
ahead of himself on that one. I think he more
definitively said guess I swore to pull the Constitution and

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I will, and then the lawyers and the court system
will ultimately determine what the Constitution requires. Five twenty six
fifty five KERCD talk station got more local stories to
dive on into. You feel free to call though, I'd
like that if you did, but we can muddle through
even without. Got a stack of stupid coming up, of course,

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following the local stories. I'll be right back.

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Talk Stations five thirty and a happy Monday. Always welcome
phone calls, which we're going to take right now. Five one, three,

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two three Talk Tom, Welcome to the fifty five Catasy
Morning Show.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
Hey, good morning. I think today is my first day
back to a slightly more humane time of day, so
uh yeah, hopefully this, hopefully this continues for for a while.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, mister calls when you were on a different schedule,
you know, got really used to hearing from you at
this time, and I always appreciate the conversation, so and
the message.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
Yeah, well, and I'm actually I'm still at the same job.
I just am able to switch back to a to
start at six instead of five. So I did want
to first give a shout out. I've been working with
an electrician who who interestingly enough, his last day on
the job was Saturday, but he's a regular listener. His

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name is Andy, So shout out to Andy.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Andy, thank you for listening.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
Andy, And I am as we speak, I am driving
through that intersection where that SHARE's deputy was last Friday.
So uh yeah, not a good uh, not a good story.
I don't have enough information on that, so I'm not
gonna really comment on that right now. But uh, I

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did want to talk about real quick a topic that
I call, uh well, I call it something else, but
it's give a crap and and what what do you
give a crap about? Is very important what your priorities
are in your life, and from something as simple as, uh,
you know, how do you leave the bathroom when you
walk away from it? You know, do you give a crap?

Speaker 9 (20:43):
Do you care? What you know?

Speaker 8 (20:45):
What you leave behind you when you do whatever, when
you work, when you wait, when you you know, when
you leave the kitchen in the morning, or what I mean,
just simple stuff shows what you give a crap about.
And then you go all the way up to uh,
you know, we talked to politics. One of these politicians
give a crap about. And of course when you're talking
about the Democrat Party, you think about the things that

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they give a crap about, think about the things that
matter to them. It matters to them whether or not
women can have the right to kill babies. It matters
to them whether or not men could play in women's sports.
It matters to them whether or not someone who is
in this country illegally should be allowed to stay. These
are the things that matter to them. These are the

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things that they give a crap about. And if you
notice people from you know, politicians and all the way
down to some of us unwashed masses, what we give
a crap about affects everybody else around us. And the
Democrat Party is affecting us in very terrible ways. And
they are They have been slowly but surely destroying this country,

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at least trying to, and especially if it's picked up
speed over the last oh, i don't know, ten twelve
years of them affecting us with all their all their
garbage and everything like that, and all the news stories
pretty much say it. But it all comes down.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
To give a crap.

Speaker 8 (22:06):
What do you give a crap about? The Democrats clearly
do not give a crap about the best interest of
the citizens of this country. So as always I have
to say, don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
You too. Tom interestingly stated, but I think he made
some valuable points on that election day Tomorrow issue too,
we'll be talking about that company of State Representative Jennifer Gross.
Poles are open for early in post inverting already what
may six poles open at six thirty am and close
at seven thirty pm. They'll be tomorrow. What's on the

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ballot other than an issue too? Princeton's City School Board,
District School District Board of Elections. They have a proposed
levey six point six y' one mill It's on the ballot.
It's going to generate twelve point eight million annually. How
much is it going to cost the homeowner? Two hundred
and thirty one dollars for each one hundred thousand dollars
the county auditors appraised home value for a period of

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ten years. The board claims that the current revenue sources,
including existing tax levies and funds from state and federal
governments will be insufficient to maintain the district's operation without
additional funding, so that particular issue will be on weal.
Of course, the areas where Princeton City Schools operates pretty

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much all over the place, portions of the Hamilton, Butler,
Warren Counties. Other school Levey issues to think about Mount
Healthy School Levey, Edgewood School Levey, Madison School Levey, Clinton,
Massy Local Schools Levey, and the Franklin School Levey. Bring
a valid photo ID which could be on a Hio
driver's license, Ohio State ID Card, Interim ID form issue
by the Ohio BMV, US Passport, US Passport card, US

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Military ID card, Ohio National Guard ID card, or US
Department of Veteran Fairs ID card. Photo IDs have to
have an expiration eight that has not passed. It has
to have a photograph of the voter shocking and the
voter's name which must be substantially which must substantially conformed
to the name as it appears on the poll list

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or in the poll book. You have been forewarned one
more here since a police performed and says a man
was stabbed in the neck three times near Madonna's Bar
and Grill. Called the corner seventh and Vine, seven O
eight pm for a call. This was believe Saturday night
victim asmidity. A man is late thirty stabbed in the
next three times sent in the You've see medical center,

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police says in critical conditions. Officers believe they may have
started as an argument in the nearby Madonna's Bar and Grill.
Suspect fled but was later tased and taken into custody.
No further danger to the public post. Thank you Joe Strekker.
Valuable sound bite and valuable information use as directed seven

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or five thirty five, stick around, got stack as to
be coming up or alternatively more phone calls. Love to
hear from you, be right back.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
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Speaker 2 (25:00):
Thirty nine, fifty five KERCD talk station. Yes, wes Claremont School,
Levey also on the ballot. Heard from two people on
that one. I didn't do the reporting. I just didn't
commit the entire list of school levies to memory. They
think that was a Hamilton County centric focus for the
reporting locally. But yes, wes Claremont School levee, and according
to my good friend Mike, they've soaked us enough two

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exclamation points after that total mismanagement of funds in my
humble opinion. So there you go. We know Mike is
a no vote. Actually, I've had quite a few listeners
call me up about that particular levee and they all
express strong opposition to that particular levee. Oh to feel

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free to call. Maybe you got a comment on that
one five, one, three, seven, nine, fifty eight to two
three talk. I'm a firm no on issue too as well,
So I'm on record. Let's see here smoking gun reporting
on this one. Love that site. Tale of two identities.
Vincent Conroy fifty six, allegedly drunk walking around a Florida

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parking lot wearing only a T shirt with no pants
with his private parts on public display. Conroy spotted with
two wine bottles and a cannabier. What a con When
confronted by police and asked to identify himself, he said
the suspect provided the name Charles Dickens. Later discovered his

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name was Vincent Conroy. In addition to the open container
and exposure to sexual organs counts, Conroy charged with providing
a false name to law enforcement. After a day locked
up in the local blake house, Conrie from Blee Gusk
freed on his own recognizance by County Judge Charles dickens

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Hey Judge Silverstein working a couple of extra jurisdictions there.
Joe nursing student Texas, just days away from graduating, stabbed
to death by her roommate after an argument over their cats.
Chester Lamont Grant forty facing murder chargers in the April

(27:15):
twenty sixth death of twenty three year old UK native
to Millery o'duncie in Houston. Cop showed up shortly after
four pm to an apartment of the city southwest side
for a welfare check. Knocked on the door, got no answer,
walked around the back of the apartment, where they found
blood on the concrete patio. Cops said of the apartment

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and found o'duncie in the kitchen suffering from numerous stab wounds.
Officers discovered Grant in the bedroom with at least one
stab wound. Victim pronounced dead. Grant taken to the Hospital
of Critical Injuries. Houston police told local CBS affiliate KHOU
that the two had been roommates for a couple of months,
were in a fight over their cats. Argument escalated. Grant

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allegedly stab o'duncie before taking his poor for trying to
take his own life. Please took Granted the Harris County
jail Saturday, held on a five hundred thousand dollars bond.
Theoduncee family started GoFundMe page. She was set to graduate
from nursing school just a few days before her murder,

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family said, referring to the death as an unimaginable loss
sound advice on that Joe, just I saw this, sor
I saw this one. This one made national news and
appearing to the smoking gun again just days after claiming

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a one hundred and sixty seven point three million dollar
powerball jackpot. Kentucky man now behind bar, charged with kicking
a cop in the face during a fight at an
ocean front hotel in Florida. Do what the hell court
records reflect. James Farthing, a fifty year old ex convict,
rested on feloningy and midemeanor ture in connection with the

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fracas at the Trade Winds Resort in Saint Pete Peach.
Farthing at the resort with Jacqueline fight Master. Interesting connection there,
that's his forty two year old girlfriend who was with
him when he accepted the one and sixty seven point
three million dollar power ball win. Farthing, who won the
April twenty six powerball drawing, bought the winning ticket at
Clark's Pumpin' Shop in Georgetown Phrasing, just north of Lexington.

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Tuesday evening and day after posting with the oversized jackpot winner,
Farthing punched a male victim in the face during an
argument at the Trade Winds Courting Police. Subsequent to that
alleged battery, the Sheriff's deputy sought to break it up.
Break up rather and in progress fight between Farthing and
another patron well interceding in the brawl, Deputy Nicholas Area

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of Statico reported being kicked in the face by Farthing.
Body camera footage, the officer noted he observed the defendant
winding up his right leg and kicking your affian in
the face in an attempt to injure and or incapacitate
myself and arrest affidavia. The officer said he the kick

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caused him pain in my face and resulted in swelling
and redness under his right eye after being kicked, Deputy
ordered Farthing to turn around and place his hands behind
his back quote. The defendant refused to do so and
attempted to flee on foot out of the hotel. Simultaneously,
the girlfriend fight Master actively engaging in an argument involving
another other guests, and her boyfriend was trying to well

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with trying to fight fight the other patrons at the bar.
Court of the rest report arrested for causing disturbance. Fight
Master appeared very intoxicated and was yelling and screaming and
making incoherent.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Statements as tradition.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
She was booked into the county jail for battery on
a law enforcement officer felony and two misdemeanor counts. Bond
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The remains behind bars due to Kentucky parole violator warrant.
Kentucky Department Crashings issued the warrant response to his new
arrest and the fact that he left the state without
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they're idiots, Amen, brother MANI you can't just sit back
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Fifty five KRC.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Now, don't get suckered into one fifty five KRC. Detalk
station SACA stupid well, this was embarrassing. President and Director
of the Art Institute of Chicago, James Rondo, allegedly disrobed
in the middle of a flight from Chicago to Germany.

(33:16):
Why are you doing that? Let's find out together, shall we.
Unnamed sources confirmed that Rondo, who has led the museum
for nearly a decade, allegedly this is in quotes, drank
alcohol and took prescription medication, then removed his clothing. While
a United Airlines flight nine P fifty three, again going
from Chicago to Munich, is having back in the middle

(33:37):
of April, police are called to the flight after Atlanta
to Munich. Courted reports from the New York Times on
that one. Art Institute of Chicago confirmed the report, saying
that Rondo has returned to Chicago, currently on voluntary leave
from his position. Quote. The Art Institute takes this very
seriously and has open an independent investigation to the incident.
Together all the available information. Art Institute readership is meeting

(34:01):
to determine the next steps.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
You moron.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
He was appoint of the museum's director in twenty sixteen,
been in the Art Institute since nineteen eighty eight, first
joining as an associate curator of Contemporary Art. Vanity Fair
reached out United Airlines and didn't get a respond for
a comment. You think Jay Ratliff will bring that one up.

(34:32):
Clayton County Jail, Jonesboro, Georgia, went to lockdown after officers
could not find a missing inmate convicted of murder, only
for cops to discover that they had left him at
the courthouse holding cell overnight for about twelve hours, Julian
Brooks Deloche missing from the county jail, where he was
on loan from the state prison due to a recent misdemeanor. Deloche,

(34:55):
convicted of murder in nineteen eighty four, granted pearl in
twenty ten. Cl Sheriff lebon Allen, speaking of local news,
the jail went on lockdown as officers search for him,
but the next morning they realized he'd accidentally been left
in the holding cell at the courthouse, which is attached
to the jail. Holding cell located in the secure area,
but they're not intended to hold people overnight. No beds
in those cells, only benches, sinks and toilets, also unsupervised

(35:19):
after court hours, so no one was there after six pm.
Farri fallons they searched every cell in every area of
the jail, searching for a month. Ultimately by the time
we reviewed cameras and backtrack and took us back to
the courtroom where he was at Ultimately, of course, hours
had passed. Discovered around seven am the following morning me

(35:40):
he had been in the holding cell for twelve to
thirteen hours. As a consequence, sheriff said he's thinking about
two correctional sergeants being demoted and two deputies assigned to
the Court division being suspended.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Screws fall out all the time. The world's in imperfect place.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
That's embarrassing Go to Dairy, Delaware. Over the past couple
of weeks, Dairy officials have been forced to forced five
spa mage massage parlors to close their doors licensing concerns
and misleading advertising. Town council issues cease and assist orders
shortly after the business has applied for the license renewals

(36:19):
in the town, which led to further investigation to the
business operations. Many times a single practitioner's licensed there and
we discovered that there were multiple individuals advertised or operating
at the facility, one of the problems with the licensure issues. Additionally,
Ying Qui failed to disclose a felony prostitution conviction in

(36:41):
twenty twenty two hunder state application for a license. Darius
not alerted to the conviction until she attempted to renew
her license and marks one of those kind of massage
parlors eh see here. Quarter Officials Town of Dairy in

(37:04):
ordinance back in twenty twenty three to regulate massage parlors
and other associated businesses. This was a new process which
required the owners and ropractitioners to obtain a license from
the Town of Dry and embedded within that they had
to show proof of valid state license as a massage therapist.
Apparently didn't do that, quarter to one official for whatever
reason at the state level, either staffing or otherwise. I'm

(37:26):
not sure, but if you go to the state website,
there's no record of what happened in Delaware. The fact
that an investigation was done at the state level, that's
a very difficult pill for us to swallow. Phrasing say,
I read that line just for you, Joe. Anyway, not
much on that one, but it does conclude today's status.
Tuka Cinco de Mayo stack is stupid, which is interesting.

(37:50):
Apparently they don't even really celebrate it in Mexico. It
celebrates Mexico's victory over the French army at the Battle
of Puebla May fifth, eighteen sixty two. Popular here in
the United States, particularly among Mexican American communities. Not a
national holiday in Mexico, primarily celebrated only in the city
of Puebla, gets a lot of attention here, though, is

(38:10):
this cultural appropriation sticker. It is an excuse to drake,
which is probably why we adopted it as a holiday.
Joe ken Cober, or FLP President, on the recent murder
of the sheriff's deputy and what led up to that.
We'll get his thoughts and comments at six point thirty.
Got some time to talk between now and then, feel
free to call. I'll be right back after the news.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
News happens fast, stay up to date.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
At the top of the hour, not going.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
To be complicated. It's going to go very fast.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Fifty five krs. The talk station all about the pre set.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Six or six if you buy a PRC the talk station.
Hope you're having a decent Monday. I certainly hope you
had a wonderful weekend. Bottom of the hour, Ken Cober,
he'll be talking about the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson.
I guess you have to say a ledge murder. Although
with all the witnesses that witnessed, then Hinton Jr. Target
him and hit him full speed or at a high

(39:04):
rate of speed in his automobile. Of course, Rodney Hinton
Junior arrested being in the He's in the Claremont County
Lockup rather than the Hamilton County Lockup because of reasons
for his safety and concerns by the judge that I
don't know you might have with an Epstein situation. Since
the Hamilton County Sheriffs run the Hamilton County Lockup, I
can appreciate why they might have wanted him moved, although

(39:27):
I imagine there's sort of a fraternal bond between the
Claremont County Sheriff's deputies and the Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy,
so well remains to be seen what happens anyway. Rodney
obviously upset about the shooting of his son Ryan, who
was carrying a glock twenty three to forty caliber with
an extended magazine. I brought up again and again and
again because he's only eighteen years old and had he

(39:48):
not been brandishing the weapon, he would still be with
us today. I hate to hear about officer involves shootings.
Obviously you have a concern that you know certain element
of the population will end up rioting in the streets,
whether or not it was appropriate action by the police
officer or not. I wish the video was a little
more clear if you watch it it's not as clear

(40:12):
that the gun was pointed directly at the officer as
the officers suggests happened. So we're left to draw our
own conclusions. But well, hear what kan Kover has to
say the bottom of the r fast forward one hour.
State Representative Jennifer Gross on why you should vote no
on issue too. I've been telling people to vote no.

(40:33):
I call it a slush fund, but it's a constitutional amendment.
And ask yourself since all this is for infrastructure projects,
you know, they point out and all the pro issue too, folks,
all your roads or roads are falling apart. Well, where
in the hell's the gasoline tax money been going? How
come municipalities haven't been taking a stock in their own
roads and you know, taking care of them, City of Cincinnati,

(40:56):
That's what tax dollars are for, first and foremost, take
care of the infrastructure you've all he got before we
start building more stuff and things. This is just an
ever growing fund. Bonds will be issued and interest will
be paid upon them. So I'm not in favor of it.
We'll hear the reasons Jennifer's against it. At seven oh five,
Christopher Smithman, I have a feeling he may mention the
death of Deputy Larry Henderson, and he probably will mention

(41:18):
Ryan Hinton, the eighteen year old walking around with the
clock twenty three to forty calib with an extended magazine Monday. Monday,
Brian James eight oh five. Consumer confidence low, jobless claims
are up, young workers reporting burnout and living paycheck to
paycheck and starter homes beginning at one million dollars. Geez,

(41:39):
clemen doom. The last couple of weeks with Brian James
anyway cares Maybe with this cincinnt VA, we have little
we We're kind of up in the air on whether
that's going to take place anyway. I mentioned in the
last hour, I thought Donald Trump shouldn't have gone there.
But when he was asked about whether he would uphold
the the Constitution, listen to what the judges are saying

(42:00):
particular situation, whether the Fifth Amendment requires before any person
within the United States may be deprived of life, liberty,
or property. I don't know, he said, I'm not I'm
not a lawyer. I don't know. Talking with Kristen Welker
on NBC News Meet the Press, and he points out
while the Fifth Amendment might say that due process compliance

(42:23):
will require a million or two million, or three million trials,
which again there's the problem we've got. But the Constitution
says what it says. Courts are in the position to
interpret what it means, and ultimately the Supreme Court will
have a say on this. But the way my understanding reads,
and the way the law is currently being applied, you
got to give them due process. Now with that, you know,

(42:44):
it's a slow process, it's expensive, it's time consuming. Millions
of court cases must be their hearings must be held.
You know, the the we all demand an instant gratification,
and sometimes, you know, we sacrifice our confidence constitution for
political expedients, something judgment Politana and I talk about all

(43:04):
the time. In the context of waging war. We just
willing nearly launched missile strikes and rockets and engage in
authorization for use of military force, and that would allow
us to go into combat what Afghanistan was for but
ten years with no declaration of war. It turns a

(43:25):
constitution on top of the head. Now, listeners know, I
am no fan of Alexandrio Casio Cortez at all. I
stand for almost anything that comes out of her mouth,
although I got to defend her on this one. Now
she dared Tom Holm and the Borders are to get
her arrested for what she claimed was providing legal advice

(43:47):
she was giving immigrants on how to avoid being deported.
Holman said he had already referred her antics to the
US Department of Justice. The dare from Alexander Casio Cortes
came at a pack town hall in Queen's after Homan
previously suggested that her hosting of a know Your Rights

(44:10):
webinar this was back in February that it impedes Immigrations
and custom Enforcement from carrying out Trump administration's deportation of
illegal aliens. Tom Humman said he was going to refer
me to the DOJ because I'm using my free speech
rights in order to advise people of their constitutional protections.
To that, I say, come for me. Do I look

(44:30):
like I care? Said? There was nothing illegal about it,
and if they want to make it illegal, they can
come and take me. Now. For the webinar that's being
referred to here, recommended illegal aliens ask for warrants and
deploy cell phones to record ICE searches also provided tips
on how to differentiate between different warrants and authorities that

(44:50):
are likely the authorities are likely to carry. Homan, for
his part, thinks that she ventured into illegal territory with
providing that advice. So he said, I'm working back and
I guess recently said talking to Fox and he said,
I'm working with the Department of Justice and finding out
where is that line they cross? So maybe AOC is
going to be in trouble now. Now I have to

(45:13):
defend what she was doing. And going back to Tom's
point in the last hour, what do you care about
when you're evaluating your politicians? What do they care about?
And Tom made some excellent contrast. Do they care about
the US citizen defending our rights and our freedoms and
our interests, or do they care about something else like
a wide open border that is jeopardizing US I mean

(45:35):
for safety reasons, but from a financial standpoint, it's putting
a tremendous burden on our limited resources. So what does
Alexander of Casio care to Cortes care about? So this
is why we have free speech. She's providing information that
is I suppose truthful on some level. You can record

(45:58):
with your cell phone. Hell that's like a default mechanism
for most people these days, and pull their cell phone
up before they do anything to even protect their own
best interest. She's allowed to tell illegal immigrants that they
should ask for a warrant. She's allowed to provide them
information about how to differentiate between what type of official
is there with the warrant. That's all information that's on

(46:22):
the books. That's all information that the illegal immigrants went
out into the world. They would be able to find
if they went to an attorney to talk about them
in advance. What happens, attorney, if the Immigrations and Customs
officials show up? What should I do? An attorney could
provide this advice. So you're on shaky ground when you
attack people for freedom of speech. I mean, remember the

(46:43):
anarchist cookbook written back in the early nineteen seventies, around
nineteen seventy had bomb making information in it. I mean
even the FBI evaluated that and said, well, you know,
there's nothing we can do about it. Yeah, the guys
at left wing radical loan, but this is information that
free speech rights protects.

Speaker 11 (47:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
But when you move over to this main teacher along
the same lines, and then either there's a line at
which you can't cross, and what differentiates when you know,
it's like you can't say fire in a crowded theater.
That's always been the default thing to show the limitations

(47:22):
of free speech. Well, that's really subject to an independent
analysis in and of itself. If there's an opportunity to
inject other speech, speech that might lessen the enraging circumstances,
you know, calls for immediate violence. If there's an opportunity
for more speech to be interjected into the discussion, then

(47:42):
you have the free speech right to sort of incite violence.
That's that Brandenburg case we've talked about all the time
from here in Hamlin County where that was the clan
members of the Nazis were encouraging the extermination of black people. Horrific, Yes, protected, Yeah,
we turned the main when you're post, reported Waterville's senior

(48:02):
high school English teacher, here's an argument for free school choice.
Joanna Saint Germain went on Facebook last week demanding the
Secret Service coordinate and kill every single one of Trump's
fans along with the president. Quote, the Secret Service has
the perfect opportunity if they choose to step up and
take it. You are the ones with the power coordinate
take out every single person who supports Trump's illegal, immoral,

(48:25):
unconstitutional acts. So here she's making a statement to the
Secret Service. If they're right next to the president, their arms,
so they should kill him. Outrageous, Yes, should be she
be fired, yes, But as of this week, she's not
been fired yet. She claims she was not talking about
assassinating a president. That's a person duly elected by the

(48:49):
American people. She wrote, quote, if you step up, we
can avoid a civil war. I'm not talking about assassinating
a president. A president, he's a d person duly elected
by the American people. Trump has shamelessly bragged openly about
stealing the election. I told you she's unhinged. He's making
plans to give himself a third term. No, that point

(49:11):
was negated by the President over the weekend. I'm talking
about Americans recognizing a fascist dictatorship and standing against it.
If I had this skill set required, I would take
them out myself. So that includes many of my listeners
in a listening audience who are big Trump fans. And
she knows that she may get in trouble. She posted this,

(49:32):
I knowing I'd likely lose my job and benefits. I'm
not backtracking a single thing. I believe Trump and every
sycophant he has surrounded himself with needs to die. This
is a person who has a tremendous amount of control

(49:52):
over your children, at least while they're in her classroom
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looking into it, but they have not fired her yet. Well,
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Ingram on fifty five krs the talk station.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Six twenty two fifty five kr CD talk station if
you're having a decent Monday, FFP President Ken Cobra up
next to discussion that deputy he was intentionally killed in
a crash. What a sad, sad state of affairs? And
uh let us see here three seven fifty eight hundred
two three talk Contact fifty on eight and T phones.

(52:40):
You're right, Eric, Eric made an interesting observation. Was talking
about that unhinged teacher who's calling for the murder of
a lot of my listening audience, as well as Donald
Trump egging the Secret Service on to assassinate the President,
even though she said that she didn't necessarily want the
president assassinated because he was duly elected. I mean, the
woman obviously is emotionally disturbed. Call it Trump derangements syndrome,

(53:05):
if you will, but that people carry these views. You know,
there's not a single leftist out there, including the aforementioned
Alexander Ocasio Cortes, that I would ever, ever, ever call
to be murdered. I mean, you're entitled to your own
viewpoints as part of my libertarian philosophy, you know, have

(53:27):
them and speak out loud upon them. Which is the
point that I'm making about alex aoc Listen to what
she said, listen to what she's advocating for, and make
an informed decision before you reelect her. She wasn't on
record with these types of opinions when she got elected,
originally after being a bartender. But Eric makes a good point.

(53:50):
If she had said that about Obama, his point, she'd
be in custody right now. And I you know, in
my response to him, Yeah, even though I'll argue the
speech is protected. And whoever said this about Obama? If
there was a circumstances where this happened, that person gets arrested,
what would they have to do? Lawyer up incur massive

(54:11):
defense costs being represented in a proceeding that shouldn't take place.
Because we have the First Amendment and ultimately the case
being thrown out or her person her in this case,
being found not guilty because we have a First Amendment
in the speech is protected. But they would go through
the exercise and they use that in order to chill

(54:38):
speech in the world. Look what's going to happen to
you if you say something like this, You're gonna get arrested,
You're gonna have to go through the process, and it
doesn't matter that you're ultimately found not guilty. Who wants
to go through that headache in hassle? And I know how
much lawyers cost, and it's a hell of a lot
of money to get a defense lawyer to take you
through this process. Can you afford it? So you can

(55:02):
hang your First Amendment out there all day long and
ultimately you will be defended by it, but it can
be extremely costly. It's always a question of whose ox
is being gored here. That's why I'm not I'm thinking
Tom Homans shouldn't go down the road that the leftists
go down and try to get the Department of Justice
to prosecute this loon Alexandrio Casio Cortes or providing information

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pleased to welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show,
and I wish we had a uh a lust depressing

(56:30):
moment at a topic to talk about with FOP President
Ken Kober. Ken, welcome to the morning show. It's good
to have you on.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Uh somber just heart wrenching reality that this Rodney Hinton
junior guy, the father of the eighteen year old who
was carrying out glock twenty three forty calib with an
extended magazine, lost his life and at police shoot out,
Deputy Larry Henderson was intentionally targeted apparently by this Rodney
Hinton junior guy. You're your reaction, Ken, I know this

(57:01):
has got to be emotional, and I just how does
it hit you as a police officer and an FOP
resident or representative.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
It's like a terrible nightmare that that just won't go away.
I mean, it's been on the heart of all the
law enforcement officers, you know, as we deal with you
know what's going on. You have talked to many deputies
that are friends of mine, and it's just it's a
terrible situation.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Terrible understatement, and I know that's how you got a
phrase that Deputy Larry Henderson had nothing at all to
do with the hint and shooting Diddy.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
No nothing, you know, Deputy the just retired a couple
of months ago that it was decided to continue to
serve the community as a special deputy. And it's literally just, uh,
you know, running a traffic light for UC's graduation had
nothing to do with this whole situation.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And the the it was the Cincin Police Department who
were involved in the investigation that's still in vehicle, which
ultimately led to Ryan Hinton's death. Correct, Yeah, that's right.
So he killed a sheriff's deputy, so not even the
same uniform as the organization that was involved in his
son's death.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Right now. I mean, this is just pure evil that
wanted to target a police officer because his eighteen year
old son decided to make some terrible decisions that cost
him his life. You forced the police officer to take
his life, and because of that, he decided that the
retribution was to find the first cop that he had

(58:33):
the opportunity to kill. It's just it's pure evil, is
all it is.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
It is and with all the witnesses and evidence, there's
not a question in my mind he's going to be
found guilty. But turning back to the shooting, who did
And I know you had commented before the video was
released that the video was going to, you know, provide
pretty clear information that it was a justifiable shooting, and
I know Police Chief three Teresa Thiji says it was justified.

(58:58):
I was a little disappointed that it wasn't more evident
that the gun was pointed at the officer. Are we
missing some details on that the shooting incident?

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Well, I mean, here's the bottom line. You have these
body cameras that and I went to recently to a
class that talks about body cameras and what their capabilities are.
That lens in these body cameras and these acts on
body cameras. The lens cost a total of eight cents.
So it's really no surprise when you talk about, you know,

(59:29):
somebody that's wearing a camera that is running as well
as a suspect that's running, that it's not going to
capture everything. It's not a surprise. It was blurry at
some point in society. You know, we've got to get
back to we're going to believe what a police officer says,
an officer that is sworn to take an oath that

(59:49):
is is the epitome of integrity. We've got to start
believing that if this officer says this just because it's
not captured because the video is blurry, when are we
to decide that we're gonna believe what a police officer
says instead of saying, well, if it's not on camera,
if it's not so clear on this camera what happened,
then we're not going to believe it. It's true. That's

(01:00:10):
what we have to get back to in society.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Well, and the other component is people fail to put
themselves in the position of a police officer. And that
officer was aware because if I got the details right,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong, because I
don't want to get up and get bad information out there. Ken,
But the radio was on and going back and forth
among the officers. He was told in advance the kid

(01:00:32):
had a firearm on him. Correct, So he's gonna you
can go ahead. Sorry, no, I'm just kidding. So he's
on alert the kid. The kid's got a gun. For
God's sake, my life is in peril, and the community's
life is in peril. My other officer's lives may be
in peril. So you got a heightened sense of awareness
and adrenaline flowing and concern that coming around that dumpster

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is a kid with a gun.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
You can hear that on the body camera. You can
hear the other officer yelling he's got a gun. He's
got a gun. He's got a gun. He's on your right,
so that that can all be heard on the audio.
And this police officer is simply trying to protect the community.
There's no question as to whether this guy had a gun. Oh,
the only question is and there's no question that he

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was armed. There's no question he ran with a gun.
The question is, well, it doesn't show on the video
specifically that that he pointed it at him. But when
you watch the video, if you slow it down, you
can see you know where the officer or where the
suspect is, what he's doing, and in fact, he was
shot in the chest. Now, I don't know in what

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world people live, but if you shoot someone in the chest,
it's hard to say that they were running away from you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
That's that's the reality.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
He was shot twice once in the chest. The second
time was in his arm that went through his chest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
And I said, the other component is in that situation,
he's brandishing a firearm and I mean it only takes
us a moment's time for that firearm and the appointing
directly a police officer and in your in. Again, it's
a situational awareness kind of thing. I mean, you have
to be in a position to be able to defend
and protect yourself. And if you're that far away from

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it's not like you pull a taser out and tase
the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing that says, you know, when
a police officer use deadly force that they have to
you know, they have to have you know, been shot
at or anything like that. All it says, constitution says,
and what our rules, if you will, of engagement say
is that you have to believe that your life or
the life of another is in danger. That's exactly what

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that officer did. It's an officer has a lot of experience.
That's a fantastic police officer that in that time he
thought that his life was in danger and he did
exactly what he should have done. And instead of you know,
these community members that are all up in arms about this.
Instead of them going did this offs act reasonable? Which

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is absolutely true, the blame should be put on this
eighteen year old kid that's running from a stolen car
with a gun that decided to make a decision that
forced this officer to take his life. That's where the
blame is, not on this police officer who is protecting his.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Community eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm or death right.
I mean, if you reasonably believe that your life is
in danger, then you're a title to use deadly force.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
That's the law. Yeah, it's pretty simple. That is what
the law says. And that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah, any any understanding about where this firearm came. I mean,
he's an eighteen year old kid carry a clock twenty
three with an extended mag and I guess I can
understand parents being upset about their their son being killed,
But the idea that you would go and kill an
unrelated sheriff's deputy over this just is kind of mind
boggling when you have to look at the circumstances. Your

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kid was running around with a firearm and wasn't even
lawfully entitled to carry one, and I suspect the thing
was probably stolen. Anyway, I'll hold your comment and thought
on that, Ken, because we're out of time in this segment,
I want to bring you back for a few more
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Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Times with FOP President Ken Kober talking about the officer
involved shooting with Ryan Hinton which led to his father
murdering Deputy Larry Henderson, who had no connection with the
officer involved shooting. High tension situations, stolen vehicle. Ryan Hinton,
the late one of four kids in the stolen vehicle,
ran from police officers. Ryan of course had the firearm

(01:05:47):
in his hand. As we know, Budyo camera footag our
body video from the Sheriff's deputies proved that that was
indeed the case, and as kenn has pointed out, you know,
you don't have to have the gun directly aim with
the melon of the police officer. If you have an
eminent apper, a reasonable eminent apprehension of reasonable bodily harm

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or grievous bodily harm, you're allowed to use deadly force.
It's the law. And of course Ken defends the officers shooting.
So Ryan Hinton's dead. How in the hell is it
that an eighteen year old was carrying around a glock?
And you face this kind of thing each and every
day in the police department, don't you, Ken?

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Sure, yeah, And that's something that's that's still being investigated,
is how that came about. You know, there was another
stolen gun in the car. I mean, it's just it's
something that never should have happened, you know. I know.
One of the things that has been talked about is
why did this kid get out of the car and
run with a gun? You know why is he's running

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the gun drops, he drops the gun and then he
picks it up anyway and then runs to the dumpsters
and points it at a cop. It's like, why did
he do all these things? All he did to do
is get out of the car and run. You'll leave
the gun in the car. You know, once you drop
the gun, just leave it and run, you know, if
that's what you want to do. I mean, that's that's
exactly what we expect from these criminals that are stealing cars,

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stealing guns. Just run from the police. And this never happens.
I mean, these were just fatal mistakes that were made
by an eighteen year old kid that either either wasn't taught,
you know, growing up, how to be a respectful human being,
or he just decided to make bad decisions. You know,
this is this is one of these things where the

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police are certainly you feel terrible, terrible that this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Yeah, you're terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
For the family that that this eighteen year old made
these horrible mistakes. But it's just what it was. These
were mistakes that he made that led to his death,
not the police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
And as far as the police officers concern, what's what's
the next step for the police officer?

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Well, I mean right now he's off on administrative leave
trying to trying to process this. I've been in contact
with him, and you know, it's bad enough you have
to deal what the fact that you took somebody's life
and then all of a sudden the next day, you know,
now you have a deputy, you know that that gets
murdered simply for doing his job by the same family

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that created this mess on Thursday. And it's just it's
a tragic all around. I mean, trying to process this,
you talking to sheriff's deputy's talking to you know, city
police officers that I work with, and you know, trying
to process this mess right now is just it's it's
been very, very difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Well and you know, as to the officer processing this,
imagine he's got to feel absolutely terrible about it. And
I've got one listener out there who thinks that the
reason people get into law enforcement because they want to
shoot people. And I've called him out about that before
and I say, absolute utter nonsense, Barber STERI saying, if
you will, but you know, speak to someone who actually
thinks along those lines.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Can I mean, there's just no reasoning with somebody like that.
You know, having having been in law enforcement for nearly
twenty five years, I've been in these situations. It's terrible.
Nobody nobody wants to go to work and go you
know what, I feel like shooting somebody tonight. I mean
that is just that defies all sensibilities. Well, nobody wants

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to go through this, Nobody wants to have to live
with the fact that they had to take somebody's life.
I mean, everybody comes to work every day going and
I hope today is just a really nice, easy day
to be able to get through.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Amen.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
And unfortunately that just wasn't that on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Well, and to the extent someone actually harbors those feelings inside,
they're weeded out when they go through the academy, are
they not?

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Without a doubt? I mean, you have a psychological exam
that's roughly three hundred question psychological evaluation that you take,
and then you go meet with a psychiatrist that will evaluate,
you know, the questions that you answered, how you answered them.
And then you know, you have a face to face

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fifteen to twenty minute interview with a psychiatrist that evaluates
your body language, all of these things, what you say,
how you're saying it to determine whether or not you
seem like you would be some that would be fit
to do this job well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
And I take great comfort in knowing that. And finally,
before we part company, Ken Cob and I appreciate your
time today. Any word out there, I mean, you do
the police follow social media and anticipation of something like this,
leading to what we've seen before, in spite of the
facts and circumstances, people will nonetheless take to the streets
and protest police behavior, like Black Lives Matter, for example.

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Any rumblings out there in the world about that potential.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
You know, we've had investigators that have been honitoring social
media and all these things all weekend, and we've had
death threats that hey, it's time to go kill some
more cops, and you know, it appears that for the
most part, this has just been a bunch of keyboard
warriors that are you know, no doubt, I get it.
They're probably grieving too. There's some of them that are
just there for nefarious reasons that could give two hoots

(01:10:52):
about whether you know, it's the hitt And family or
the police that just want to try to stir up
a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Yeah, but there's really so far, I mean, there hasn't
been anything that's been credible, but it's certainly something that
you know, we've been monitoring just to make sure that
you know, the city is safe, that the county safe
all the citizens that are here. So there hasn't been
anything terribly credible yet. Hopefully everybody decides to grief peacefully.

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But yeah, so far, I think everything's kind of been okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Well, we'll pray that the situation remains calm and collected
and people approach it exactly the way that you pointed out. Ken.
I don't envy you and your job at this point
in time, but I appreciate your willingness to talk to
my listeners about the situation on behalf of all of
my listening audience, and I speak with the exception of
one apparently, we all support you and appreciate what you
do each and every day, putting your lives on the

(01:11:47):
line for the safety of the community. And thank you
for doing so.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
All right, Brian, thanks for having.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Me my pleasure. Ken, take care. It's six forty eight
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Speaker 11 (01:13:13):
It's good to hear from you, Brian. I was going
to talk about something from the Daily Wire. There's really
a good article about Cannon Mills, the governor of Maine,
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found out that there's a lot of money. But I
have to tell you, after listening to that previous section
about this terrible situation, it literally takes my breath away,
and I can think of nothing other than it appears
that the father, you know, the son the apple didn't
fall far from the tree in this hate that really

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is in destructive to society.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
And it's just it's.

Speaker 11 (01:14:04):
It's I don't know, it just it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
It's sad.

Speaker 11 (01:14:09):
Is it's beyond that to watch such a deterioration of
societal norms just go away. I mean, I don't believe
I've ever heard of a father just going after a
law enforcement because his son was killed. I don't think
I've ever heard of that in our country.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I haven't mafia.

Speaker 11 (01:14:32):
It's just I mean, it's it's another slow you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
You mentioned mafia. I would think that that might come
up in a situation where there is a specific member
of law enforcement that's involved in some way with the
motivation for wanting to have that person killed. They were
doing an investigation, or they're the ones that arrested one
of their guys, or there's a connection to the under
there's something underlying. In this particular case, this was Deputy

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Larry Henderson, no connection whatsoever, not even wearing the same uniform.
He's a retired Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy. He's not a
Cincinnati police officer. I mean, I know, you can't make
an argument that would have been more justified if Ronnie
Hitton Junior had run over and killed a Cincinnati police officer.
But at least you can make the argument it's coming

(01:15:18):
from the same force. In this case, Larry's his mine
in his own business, you know, in his retirement working
as an assistant you off, you know, not an active deputy,
but doing deputy work. Because he's got the skill sets
and agreed to volunteer to do it. It's it's insane, man.

Speaker 11 (01:15:33):
It reminds me of a briefing I got when I
was in the Middle East. They told us what blood
letting was, and I was like, okay, So like, if
you look at somebody's daughter or wife, then that man
holds a grudge because you have a uniform on or
because he sets you out from their tribe. His job

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in blood letting is he may not kill you, he
will kill the first person from that tribe.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
It's it's it's it's said.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Yeah, it what it is, it is said. It's beyond set. Well,
appreciate your observations this morning, Hampshire Grey. I hope you
can have a nice Monday in spite of the subject
matter we're talking about today. Speaking of subject matter, tomorrow,
it's election day and Jennifer Gross, State Representative Gross from
District forty five is going to join the pernem to
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doing so. State Representative Jennifer Gross representing District forty five
and she's with me. I'm a hard strong no on

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issue too. Jennifer, welcome to the program.

Speaker 14 (01:17:27):
Thank you, Brian, good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Now, first off, this is a constitutional amendment my correct.

Speaker 14 (01:17:33):
Correct, and based on the ballot by your legislature.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah, and I don't know what what to deal with that.
I have read. This enjoys bipartisan support and business organizations
can many organizations say the behind this before we dive
into the why we should vote no on it? What
is it supposed to accomplish? Issue too?

Speaker 14 (01:17:52):
Well, let's go back, if you don't mind, Brian, a
little bit to the history. In nineteen eighty seven, This
was started by Democrat Governor Celeste, and it was supposedly
started because our roads were in such disrepair, and back
then our gas tax was fourteen cents now it's thirty
eight point five cents per gallon. It was to fund

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local projects because our highways were in great disrepair. The
highway system had been utilized more often for manufacturing, and
we had lots and lots of projects, largely local, a
lot of those too. But the transportation budget is also
another revenue stream that we use. So we already had

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the transportation budget and they said, well, we need a
bump of money, so Celeste put it on the ballot
for five hundred million dollars. Now it's they're asking for
two point five billion. And the projects were supposed to
be basically, you know, we had a backlog of local
infrastructure needs back then in nineteen eighty seven. And yet

(01:18:57):
every ten years we keep renewing this. So just a
little bit of the history.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
So this takes away the tenure renewal and ensurnes it
in the constitution, so it's always funded.

Speaker 14 (01:19:09):
Yes, it's always been. So it was placed in the
constitution every ten years, yes, sir, all.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Right, So question first thought out of the gate here, Jennifer,
why do we need this separate pool of money? You
mentioned specifically something I was going to ask about. The
gas tax is supposed to fund road improvements and maintain infrastructure.
I don't know how much you take in in Ohio
annually on the gas tax, but it is that an
insufficient revenue source? And if so, doesn't that require elected

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officials to allocate additional funds for the roads, maybe to
the exclusion of some other fun new stuff and things
the state might take on.

Speaker 14 (01:19:46):
Very good thinking, Brian, That's exactly my thought process. The
transportation budget was just passed, and it passed with at
eleven point five billion dollars, and that is supposed to
cover you guessed it, roads and bridge is Federal vehicle
registration helps safe for that as well, you know, the highways.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Local projects.

Speaker 14 (01:20:10):
The transportation budget covers all the things, or the majority
of the things they're asking for in this bond issue,
which is fascinating. So if the people choose not to
pass this, it would send it back to us, the legislature,
and require us to use your money more fiscally sound.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
So by allowing the bonds to be issued, that just
means the money's being borrowed and then we've got to
pay it back with interest.

Speaker 14 (01:20:38):
Correct, correct, And you're absolutely right. I'm sorry I didn't
answer your question quite fully before about another funding source.
We have five budgets already, you know, we have BWC
and the General Revenue Fund, and the Transportation budget, and
the capital budget and another budget called the IC budget.
This is a sixth revenue stream, and we're asking the

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people for more money. We're already spending eleven point five
on the transportation budget. We're asking for another funding stream.
And you know, I just but it's debt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I mean, the funding stream is borrowing money. So you've
got to do You've got to do financial obligation every
and every counter year in the budget, which is servicing
the debt that you borrowed to fund this particular fund.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
That's right, that's.

Speaker 14 (01:21:31):
Right, and it's bombs have debt and an interest to
be paid back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
All right now, going to this is just layers are
stupid from my perspective, Jennifer, I apologize, no, no, no,
I just it really it bothers me. You would think
that the Columbus it We've got a bunch of Republicans
dominating the House and the Senate and the and the governor,
you would think there would be more fiscal responsibility and
more willingness to manage dollars rather than do something like this.

(01:21:58):
So I'm frustrated by this happening in Ohio, but I'm
used to it by now with Columbus the way it
operates now. Allegedly, the grants that are dealt with in
this cover roads, bridges, water supply, wastewater treatment, stormwater collection,
and solid waste disposal. Now, since I live in the
Greater Cincinnati area, if city council had control over any
one of these given projects with the money that are
coming from these bonds being issued, it will be some

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outrageously outlandish green focused projects. So we're going to deal
with wastewater, but we're not going to do it in
the most energy for the most efficient way, mining the
taxpayer dollars. We're going to do something really crazy and
far more expensive in the name of I don't know,
climate change or something, and only by the way it's
going to be mandated at all. This is being done
by union scale wage and all the extra do deads,

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and so I'm just looking at.

Speaker 14 (01:22:43):
It Yes, Yes, Ryan, Did you see the vote yes
on Issue Too signs? Who does that? Does your legislature
pay money to tell you to vote yet?

Speaker 9 (01:22:54):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:22:55):
So if someone's spending money to get you to vote
yes on Issue Too, but your legislature put it on
the ballot, which I voted against putting it on the ballot.
By the way, let's be clear, there were four of
us who voted against putting it on the ballot. But
if someone's paying money for signs to get you to
vote yes on Issue Too, why do you think they'd

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be doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
They're going to be the recipients of the project money
because they're going to get the contract.

Speaker 9 (01:23:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:23:24):
I believe you hit that on the nose. And look,
I have no you know, personal problem with and I
don't even know actually the people directly behind the signs.
But here's what I do know. If you're going to
spend money to try to get us to vote yes,
there's some benefit to you to spend that money. And
so you're absolutely right the people that are going to

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get the contracts and all of that. The other thing
that's to concern to me is this, there's no clear
direction as to who would get those projects, is it
the biggest project? Because I had someone not in my district,
but I had someone call me and say, you know,
it's been two decades and we have this bridge we'd
have we've had to lower load on because we can't
get it fixed. So even though we keep approving all

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this money, we're not getting the project. And they're in
a small rural county in Ohio. So how how are
the projects being spent? How are they divvied out? How
do we determine? And it is my understanding that once again,
when we spend this money, we also then draw down
additional funds from the federal government. I don't know if

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you're if everybody understands what that means. What does draw
down from the federal government mean. It means that if
you're telling me that you think the federal government is
blowed and bloated and overgrown, that Ohio has to stop
spending money locally just to get more money from the
federal government. So, for instance, for every dollar we spend,
four dollars comes back from the federal government. In some

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of these projects, we have federal highway funds and things
like that that we then when we spend the money
the federal the federal government matches us a certain amount.
The federal government has to spend more money at the
federal level when we spend money, and that's an agreement
that we've made which makes Ohio dependent on federal funds.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
And going back to my climate change focused projects, if
money comes from the Feds, it's going to come with
strings attached. That always does.

Speaker 14 (01:25:16):
Exactly, exactly, just like our money did to the state,
requiring us to keep anybody who lost their jobs on
Medicaid for three years even if they got their job back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Absolutely, absolutely, well obviously made some wonderful reasons and explained
why we should vote no on this. Now in final conclusion,
I kind of alluded to it. Who decides ultimately which
projects get funded. There's probably a million projects and this
money would in no way, shape or form cover every
project that every municipality wants done. So who determines where

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the money goes?

Speaker 14 (01:25:53):
I would be mistaken to tell you for sure, But
obviously with this amount of money there needs to be
a type of controlling board that would determine it. The
challenge is what are those what are those determinants? How
do we know who gets prioritized there is a larger
city like Cincinnati, when they have a project, do they
get do they get higher priority? Because somebody in Giaga,

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Giaga County needs something and they can't you know, they're
so small that they don't have the same voice.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Perhaps we need.

Speaker 14 (01:26:25):
To require an audit, you know, from the auditor on this,
just to be clear.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
I think that's a good idea of money going well.
And you know, wherever there's more money, higher concentration of people,
you know, you know, Franklin County or Cuyahoga County or
here in Hamilton County, that's where the campaign contributions come from,
which is probably why they'd be more likely to get
the project done than someone out in Yaga County just
throwing it out there.

Speaker 14 (01:26:49):
Unfortunately. Unfortunately, Yes, that can be the case. An influential
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
So I've been boiling down as a it's a slush fund,
which is a bad thing. So that's what I've been
calling it. So it sounds me like I can continue
to label at a slush fund.

Speaker 14 (01:27:03):
I think so, because Brian, really, if it's not approved,
then we need to come up with the money. You know,
I was told, well, then we're going to have to
increase taxes. Why is that the case? Our revenue is
I voted against the general operating budget that we just
voted on with the six hundred million to the stadium.
I'm sure you don't want to get into that today,
but I get tired of hearing I'll give you a

(01:27:26):
you know, if you give me a cheeseburger today, I'll
give you a dollar tomorrow. I'm tired of of us.
Our revenue stream is very, very strong, and yet we
keep spending the people's money with no property tax relief.
We solve an income tax and so to me, yes,
if this is not passed, it requires your legislature to

(01:27:47):
make some hard choices on how we're spending our dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Yes, and that's their job. Jennifer Gross proudly representing and
wonderfully representing District forty five. Thank you so much for
coming on the program and explaining this to my listeners
and me. I will look forward to having you on
the show again real soon.

Speaker 14 (01:28:04):
Thank you, Brian, have a great day.

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Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Guys, are you tired of being? If any have KRCD
Talk station, a very happy Monday to you. Always made
it extra special. This is the point of the week
and the show when we get to hear from the
former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, what we
call the smither Van, Christopher Smithman. Welcome back to the
morning show. And I never know what you're going to
talk about, but I think today I could probably guess.

Speaker 9 (01:29:32):
Yeah, brother, it's a somber day.

Speaker 7 (01:29:34):
It is.

Speaker 9 (01:29:34):
And I definitely heard from the FOP President Ken Kober.
I thought he did a good job, you know, explaining,
supporting and be clear with good common sense of what
we need to be doing. You know, I'm a former
elected official, but let me just start off with humanity.

(01:29:54):
I think that's where common sense starts, you know, extending
my deepest condolences to Deputy Marry Henderson and his family,
you know, his parents, his nephews, his nieces, his first cousins.
I mean, what we do in our society, unfortunately, Brian Thomas,
is we dehumanize our peace officers, all six hundred thousand

(01:30:19):
plus of them across the United States of America, and
we do that by talking about things like defunding the
police department, or reimagining the police department, or Tuesday Morning
quarterbacking split second decisions that your sister, who is a
former Cincinnati police officer, had to make or saw her

(01:30:43):
colleagues have to make in her career. And so part
of this lack of common sense, you know, you see
it permeating out on social media as the officer who
is our administrative lead, which is just a part of
the process as he goes through counseling, as if this

(01:31:05):
doesn't impact his life, meaning someone who has to take
the life of someone, but to deal with this father
who decided the next day to randomly select choose this
assassination of Deputy Larry Henderson is absolutely outrageous. It's so

(01:31:28):
over the top. And I heard the FOP president say,
or I heard one of your callers say, I don't
know of this happening anywhere else in the country.

Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
I've never heard.

Speaker 9 (01:31:37):
Of anything like this before. And so to find one
person on the planet, which is scary out on social
media that thinks that this was okay, that they found
some solace in it or some sense in it, makes
no sense to me. This man is out retired after
thirty three years, he's doing traffic up the time the

(01:32:00):
University of Cincinnati. I'm sure he got up, put his
pants on, put his uniform, more, said goodbye to his family,
and went to work. And this is what you and
I talk about over and over again, how peace officers
deserve to come home to their families. And we know
that they're targets and uniforms because we're seeing it in
New York, we're seeing it in Chicago, We're seeing it

(01:32:21):
in our major cities like LA where people are just
walking up officers or in their cruisers and they're targeting them.
And so to find anybody on the planet who thinks
that this is okay, it's a major problem. Brian Thomas,
I feel so bad this morning for Deputy Larry Henderson,
who gave thirty three years of service to our county

(01:32:44):
to end his to have his life ended this way,
and to have anybody think it's okay. It's so over
the top and outrageous.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Well, I just think about it. You know, it's like
this de evolutionist society. How you can't explain mass school shootings,
How can you anybody target an innocent child for anything,
shooting the United Health CEO in the back of the head,
and that people are celebrating that and defending that murderer.

(01:33:14):
I mean, a conscious decision was made to kill that
I think was Brian Thompson was his name, walked up
behind him and shot him in the back of the head.
And yet people are out there defending this guy and
singing his praises. We live in a crazy world. Christopher
Smithman absolutely unhinged seven twenty nine. If at about Kersee
talk station and talking with Christopher Smithman, former Vice mayor

(01:33:34):
of the City of Cincinnati, doing that smither vent thing,
Christopher interrupted, You were going to make another comment that
we're talking, of course, about this unbelievably horrific tragedy where
Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy was intentionally killed by the father
of the eighteen year old who was carrying a glock
twenty three forty caliber with an extended magazine. Footchase with

(01:33:55):
the police after getting out of a stolen car, officers
talking to each other. Sinceint police officers were involved in
that shooting, they were aware that he had a firearm
and he was the officer that shot the kid was
told that he was around on his right and kid
pops out of nowhere, and there he is with the
gun in his hand, and he responded accordingly. He had
imminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm, which is the standard

(01:34:17):
you need to justify a deadly force, and he got
deadly force. You know, why was he carrying around a
glock eighteen years old? Why did he run from deputies
in the first place. Why did he just not drop
the weapon and run? You heard all that from FFP
President Ken Cover. I did.

Speaker 9 (01:34:33):
I want to add on the practical, common sense part
of this as a person who's not a law enforcement officer,
but I have five children, four boys. I happened to
be African American, but I'm an American and I'm raising

(01:34:55):
these kids like everybody else is raising their kids. Who
were listening to this our conversation this morning, and it
wasn't and it is not easy being a dad. It's
just not being a parent in today's society is very complicated.
There's so many distractions for our children. But I didn't

(01:35:16):
play as a father, Brian Thomas, I didn't play my
four kids even any of them could have been in
that situation. The intervention in all of this is great parenting.
I always wake up every day and say, I want
to be the Michael Jordan of being a dad. Being

(01:35:36):
a parent, that means you gotta be there, you gotta
be present, you gotta make tough decisions. You got to
invest in your kids. You just can't just have kids.
And I don't know what this kid's situation is, but
all I can tell you is I worked hard to
make sure that my children did not end up in
this situation. And guess what, it doesn't matter whether you're

(01:35:58):
white or your Latino, are your African American, are your Asian?
Any of our kids could end up in a situation
like this if as a parent, and particularly a father,
you are not on top of your children. So I
brag about being a great parent because there's been It's
been great sacrifice. And so when I hear things like this,

(01:36:20):
someone stole a car, someone is in a stolen car,
someone has a weapon, someone has extended ammunition on that firearm.
Someone gets out of a car running, picks it up,
goes somewhere and points it at a police officer. It
is a recipe like oil and water for something really

(01:36:45):
bad to happen, Brian Thomas. And so our common sense
has to lend here and go listen. Our officers up
out there have very complicated, serious jobs every single day.
And I'm talking about not you, Brian Thomas. I'm a
small I go out there. I haven't hunted in a

(01:37:05):
long time, but I do like hunting small games. If
you've ever been walking next to someone who doesn't know
how to handle a firearm, anybody listening knows what I'm
talking about. A new person right, and that firearm comes
in your direction, You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Come on,
you gotta know pick that firearm down to the ground.

(01:37:27):
My point is the fear that you have as a
firearm is coming towards you up in a direction. You're
not waiting for the firearm tape we pointed at you.
You're already terrified as it comes in your direction. Am
I exaggerating?

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Brian Turmas, No, no, no, no no, And yeah, I've been
in similar circumstances people that aren't familiar with firearms but
never had one, you know, pointed at me inadvertently. But
see that would be an inadvertent pointing they weren't pointing
at me for the purpose of shooting me. You know,
it was just sort of like, hey, dude, you don't
ever ever point a loaded firearm another being unless you
plan on pulling the trigger, because you are justified in

(01:38:03):
doing it. The circumstances on this don't even remotely resemble
that this is kid craying from a stolen car with
police officers buying. I'm telling them to stop. I mean, correct,
it is.

Speaker 9 (01:38:16):
But that's what I'm saying, Bright, I'm saying, just in
the normal circumstances, someone who doesn't know how to handle
a firearm, if it just comes in your direction, imagine
what that officer is going through out there. It's my point,
like if you if you've never handled a gun and
you don't know what I'm talking about, you know, you
just don't know. But it is terrifying to have a weapon,

(01:38:37):
even by a mistake. Now you're talking about somebody who
might intentionally point a firearm at you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
It is terrifying, absolutely terrifying, tarifying. Yeah, And that's the
thing I.

Speaker 9 (01:38:49):
Said, I and I just say to you that listen,
anybody out there on social media acting as this it
was something was Okay, for this depth, Larry Henderson to
lose his life, right, You've lost your mind. You've got
to be insane, you have no common sense, and we

(01:39:09):
all should be terrified by something like that. And so
I just continue to support this officer, in this family.
In this segment, I can't say enough about it. I
have other things I'm going to talk about, but it
doesn't mean that. It just diminishes how I feel so
strongly about his deputy being killed.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Yeah, comes across.

Speaker 9 (01:39:29):
It's horrific.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Seven ifif you five kre CD talk station, Brian Thomas
and Christopher Smitheman, Christophine, you said he had something else
to talk about just really quickly being former vice mayor
of the City of Cincinnati, elected official, I mean, be
in that capacity if you were still there. I kind
of figure at some point outside agitators will stir the
pot and the Black Lives Matter folks will take to

(01:39:54):
the streets in protest over this shooting, or maybe some
other entity or organization. There's already been some pretty awful,
awful online post as you heard Ken Kober talk about,
but at least as of right now, they don't anticipate
anything but that that's of course, like the weather can
change at any time. What would be your advice and
your prayer to our elected officials in the city should

(01:40:15):
that happen.

Speaker 9 (01:40:18):
Well, one is it's unfortunate what I haven't seen as
the vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati and the
former chair of Law and Public Safety for the City
of Cincinnati for an extended period of time when I served.
And so the silence, and I'll address your question, the
silence coming from city Hall is numbing. There are nine

(01:40:41):
elected officials and a mayor. And the clarity meaning my
clarity as the former vice mayor, and when I served
as the vice mayor, you know, I always made myself available.
I always spoke out about these issues no matter what
was happening. George Floyd violencing, downtown fires being set, shops
being robbed, I've made myself available. My point is that

(01:41:04):
we have elected officials right now who are quiet, right,
who are not clear, like their voices are piercing through
the nonsense. That's the problem, right. So first of all,
my advice to them is to is to come out
with something that is so clear that you support your
law enforcement officer, not just your prayers to the sheriff,

(01:41:29):
which I absolutely think is the right thing to do,
but that you support your officer who unfortunately had to
use his firearm in order to protect his life, which
ultimately is protecting all of our lives. You don't hear
that clarity, Brian Thomas coming from city Hall, And I'm
connecting it directly to the election that we're involved in

(01:41:50):
right now, meaning the primary, as you've been talking about
throughout the morning, is tomorrow. The polls open at six
thirty am, they close at seven thirty pm. Taylor Park
good turnout, We need them showing up. But will Hyde
Park Mount Lookout in Oakley, based on what happened with
their development, will they show up? Will other parts of

(01:42:12):
our community bond Hill, Rose On, will they show up?
I'm unsure about that. Voter turnout as like twelve percent
right now. So what we need is a community who says, listen,
I've got to send a message to city Hall. Write
a message. That's why I'm supporting Corey Bowman, who's running
for mayor, because I'm supporting change. I don't want to

(01:42:33):
keep doing the same thing when we have situations like this.
We need a mayor and a council that will come
on your show and speak the way I'm talking right now,
saying I support my officer, I support my commands there.
I don't want the chief just out there by herself.
Chief Fiji, who's doing a great job, comes from a
great law enforcement family. I don't want to just hear

(01:42:56):
from our sheriff. I want to hear from the elected
Brian Thomas, and so when you ask me what they
can do and what they should be doing, that's it.
But here's the bottom line. We have to have a
zero tolerance people come into our community from the outside
of the inside and decide that they want to start writing,
they want to start blocking our roads, they want to
start setting things on fire. We've got to support our

(01:43:19):
police department and holding those people accountable fast, right, We've
got to have their back. If we do that, we
won't have the problems. There should be no one out
here destroying property. Now, if somebody gets a permit, if
somebody says they would like to have they want to
display their First Amendment rights, I have no problems with that,
Brian Thomas. People have the right to do that. We

(01:43:40):
allow them to do that peacefully. But that has nothing
to do with destruction of property, that has nothing to
do with blocking streets, that has nothing to be throwing
things at our police officers. That has to be stumped out.
And we need elected officials in this election that will
hold our community accountable. Anybody who's engaging in that kind

(01:44:01):
of bad behavior. It's so sad to me, as the
former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, we just
do not have a strong elected body and a mayor
in these crisis situations. It's okay to show up for
the ribbon cutting. I can sit there with my Knight's
outfit on, my hair done perfect right while I'm trying
to go to my next gig. I'm trying to step

(01:44:24):
and go somewhere else. But when the rubber meets the road,
when that officer is at home right now maybe listening
to us, I want him to know I support you, brother,
Thank you so much for your service. There are lots
of good people out there that have your back, your
wife's back, your children's back, your community's back. That's what
a good mayor would be saying right now. That's what

(01:44:44):
a strong council would be saying. Not resolutions about what's
happening in Israel and Hamah. I don't care about that
from my council. I care right now, right now, in
this moment, right now in Cincinnati, let's hear the clear
message from city hall. And we your crickets, Brian Tartment's crickets.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Yeah, we do. And you know part of the problem,
you know, in taking a harsher a hard firm stand
against you know, violence, property destruction. They're there in the
streets protesting for example. You know, you look at George
Floyd or something a questionable, it's questionable that there's even
a reason for them to be there. In other words,

(01:45:22):
what the police did wasn't wrong, but it's been characterized
is wrong or mischaracterized. So the predicate for rioting in
the street is something that the police shouldn't be held
responsible for. But yet nonetheless they're out there protesting it,
and they, I think by the acts of violence are
are done to invite more police involvement, to create more

(01:45:45):
scenarios where they can say, see, look what the police
did to me. All I was doing was exercising my
free speech rights. And I get arrested, I get busted,
I meah blah blah blah blah blah, it's and you
know that that obviously really has I think a profound
impact on officer's psychology and how they're supposed to approach
and maybe even the commands and directors that have been
given to the police department and how they're supposed to

(01:46:06):
approach these agitators. Let them go, I think has been
the default determination. It's not worth it. We don't want
to elevate the situation. To just let them get it
out of their system. It'll be over in no time
and we'll move on with our lives. And I think
that's how we got to where we are today.

Speaker 9 (01:46:22):
Well, all I'm saying to you, Brian Thomas, is that
African American kids, American children, black or white or Latino,
are being murdered in our streets every weekend. It's a
blood bath out here across our major cities. Right. We're
losing a generation with the violence that we're seeing within

(01:46:47):
the brown and black community. And these same elected officials
right will be out here hob nobbing and talking about
that with some kind of cookout, but not getting their
arms around what's happened in our public school systems across
the United States of America. Supporting our teachers who are
trying to deal with these kids. Guarantee you they are

(01:47:07):
teachers out there who taught this young man who saw
him on TV and said, man, I probably could have
guessed that. My point is that when are we as
former elected and elected officials, going to put our rate
on the right side of the scale. The reality of
it is, Black Lives Matter is nowhere to be found

(01:47:28):
when our black and brown kids are being murdered every
single weekend across the United States of America. Our streets
are red, and our cops are the only thing out
there that's keeping it peaceful. I am so frustrated by
these voices out here who want to identify a police
officer who happens to be white, who's engaging an African

(01:47:51):
American young person who says, this is my opportunity to riot,
or this is my opportunity to protest protests our brothers
and sisters that are being murder every single weekend in
our streets in Cincinnati, in Dayton, no matter where, Detroit, Chicago,
you name it. That's what gets my skin boiling, my

(01:48:12):
blood boiling, and that's that is the real issue that
you and I as as my white brother me as
your black brother. These are American children, a generation that
we continue to lose, and we put our cops right
in the middle of it and act as if there's
not going to be a problem. If they come to
the party with a gun, expect something bad to happen.

(01:48:35):
We need parents and teachers, brother, that's what we need.
And I'm not gonna stop talking about it because there's
people out there says Will Smitherman. You know he's not
African American. You know he's a He stands apart, he's
really not black. I am absolutely black. I'm African American,
whatever you want to call me. I'm a dad out

(01:48:55):
here who's concerned about the real issues. Those are our
children who are dying in the streets with gun violence
every single day. Hope Dutley, in conclusion, this is an
African American woman. She is an absolute patriot. And our
Sharf's Department should be working with Hope Dutley to get
those cards that she has of victims in those jails.

(01:49:17):
Right now. We need Hope Dutley and our sheriff on
the same page getting those cards inside of those jails
in these prisons so we can solve these crimes. Of
these families, these mothers who are listening to my voice
right now, who are mourning in their living room because
no one has solved the crime of why their baby
was murdered in the street. Thomas, thank you. I appreciate

(01:49:41):
you giving me your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
I'm happy to do it. I appreciate your passion, and
thanks for min I didn't realize Hope was still out
there with her playing cards with unsolved murders, and that
was a I thought, really an excellent effort. So I'm
pleased to hear that she's still at that good work. Russ,
you brother, Love you man. We'll talk next Monday. Take care.
Seven fifty I can vouch for him. He is black.
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He's on fifty five KRC, the talk station Stato six
Here I pittybove Gar CD talk station. It being Monday,
it's that time of week where we do the thing
we call money Monday with all what financials. Brian Jane
financial planner he is, and he's bringing us up lately
some bad news. Jeez, Brian, can you can you put
a smile on my face one of these weeks. Welcome back,

(01:50:28):
my friend. It's always good to have you on the show.

Speaker 7 (01:50:31):
Thanks for let me join you again.

Speaker 15 (01:50:32):
I gotta ask, do I do I give you like
a negative kind of connotation? Do I do it do
every time we talk it seems like it's bad anymore?
Do you just think of me in terms of sadness?

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Of course not. You know, it's kind of like Dave
Hat to do Tech Friday with Dave Hatter at six
Thirday every Friday, and he's always warning us about just
the absolute land minds that are lurking everywhere when you're online.
You know, the scammers, the hackers, folks breaking into our infrastructure,
sending you spam text that will end up taking over
your phone or stealing your data. And it's depressing, but
it's really important information. I mean, these are kind of

(01:51:05):
things we need to know. I mean, you, of course
focus towards the financial and try to get us to
have the attitude that we need to take care of
ourselves and how to do so, and how to properly
plan for our retirement and how to manage things. So
I think it's all valuable. Although you know what negative
news gets the clicks, and that's kind of what's been
going on of late in the financial markets. I saw
that weekly jobless claims jump to two hundred and forty

(01:51:26):
one thousand, the latest sign of economic trouble in CNBC's headlines.
So when you file for unemployment this is for first
time filings? What does that specifically mean that the person
who is filing for unemployment has never filed for unemployment before.

Speaker 7 (01:51:43):
The first time?

Speaker 15 (01:51:44):
And kind of this go around, there's this is obviously
complicated stuff, but yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
That's kind of why I asked the question, because people
read that number and I don't think they give any
measure of thought to really what it entails or what
it means. So I kind of wanted to get a
little foundational point before we talk about the broader economic
troubles that this might portend.

Speaker 15 (01:52:03):
Yeah, so a first time filer is literally somebody who's
submitting a claim for the very first time during this
specified period. It distinguishes new claims from continuing claims. That's
why we have two there's two different phrases you'll hear
whenever we talk about job as claims, first time filers
and continuing claims. So yeah, and these happen, of course
whenever the economy tends to slow down a little bit.
As you mentioned, we're up to two hundred and forty

(01:52:23):
one thousand first time filers. That's up eighteen thousand from
the week before, and the now Jones organization was estimating
two hundred and twenty five thousand. Remember, everything in the
financial markets, in the economic analysis has to do with
what did we think was going to happen and then
what actually happened. So a little above the estimates. But
I don't think it's a shock to anyone. Most people

(01:52:46):
know somebody who is directly impacted by the decisions that
our administration is currently making, which in the very short
run here, there's no way to for everyone to withstand
all of these tariffs, all these extra challenges without some
kind of reaction. So you're seeing companies say, you know what,
we got to pull in for just a little for
a little bit, and hopefully we'll make it through the
other side and bring everybody back on.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
But there has to be reaction to this right now.
So there is some connection to the tariffs and people's
dealing with the tariffs, preparing or otherwise reacting to them.
That's connected with the higher weekly job claim.

Speaker 15 (01:53:21):
Absolutely, because because think about it this way, A tariff is,
you know, whether we whether good, bad, or and different.
A tariff is an extra outlay of cash that a
company has to start paying to keep its business going
forward any way you want to slice it. That is
the thing that's happening. So that means they might have
to be backing off on other things. So maybe there's
some some smaller product they sell or something like that

(01:53:42):
that's just not all of that viable, and therefore they
may have to shut down that division or at least
mothball it for a little while. That costs people jobs,
and they may be looking for opportunities to save just
so we can buy some time. And I've got I've
got clients, I've got some personal friends who are talking
about we need to be able to bring in part
raw materials from overseas. Didn't see these tariffs coming, you know,

(01:54:04):
last year, so we didn't exactly plan for it right,
And we can't afford to double overnight or cost of
good soul, which is basically what's happening here. Things got
twice as expensive as they were last year. Nobody planned
for that. The ones who have the you know, who
have the deepest pockets and the best ability to weather
the storm are the ones who are going to be
here on the other side of it. But if you're

(01:54:25):
not in that situation, then there's a lot of pain
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Yeah, And I'm just part of me is kind of
surprised at how quickly the implementation of the tariffs have
went in and how quickly they've been implemented. It seems
to me like there will be a very very complicated
process that once you know, you declare whatever given tariff
is going to be applied, you could actually connect it
to an imported product and have that tax or that

(01:54:50):
tariff owede right away. That's like the peace of God.
I don't know. I don't know how they can accomplish
that and how. That's why I'm kind of shocked that
it has this immediate effect, because the tariffs have only
been in place now for what six weeks or two months?

Speaker 7 (01:55:02):
Yeah, So a couple thoughts on that.

Speaker 15 (01:55:03):
I mean, first off, this administration is a more so
than any other administration in history, has been tearing band
aids off left and right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Let's just do it.

Speaker 15 (01:55:11):
Make a mess break things, and then we'll move on
the other thing too, is remember what the market is
always trying to do, and what business people are always
trying to do is anticipate. So, yes, the tariffs have
only been in place for a short while, but we've
been talking about them since really since November, because Trump
talked about them all through his campaign, so there's been
a whole lot lot of anticipation about it. Business has

(01:55:33):
started to rejigger and shuffle things. That's why we're seeing
we're seeing we saw a decline in the overall GDP
of the United States. It wasn't because demand fell or
anything like that. It was because businesses were holding off
on US based purchases of supplies and things that they
need in favor of buying a bunch of stuff that
they all they knew they would need, kind of stocking
up before the tariffs hit. So we saw a much

(01:55:56):
bigger trade imbalance due to that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Right, and I saw an article about but night trial
gloves as surgical gloves, and there is a US manufacturer
then obviously could not compete with Chinese production because how
much cheaper it is, but it's finally getting a whole
lot more orders. So there's one business that has benefited
from this, among other businesses that were in this article
that I read about how the tariffs have helped US

(01:56:20):
industries in certain areas. But he said he has a
lot of customers that wouldn't do business with him because
of the price of his gloves now coming to him
and saying, hey, we need these gloves, and they're placing
orders with his company because now his price is actually
competitive with the tariff in place.

Speaker 7 (01:56:37):
Yeah. Now, now think of the downstream effect of that.

Speaker 15 (01:56:39):
So they're not these companies who are purchasing those gloves
from him, these organizations, they are not saving money themselves.
They're actually paying more than they were les exactly, it's
still a cost.

Speaker 7 (01:56:49):
Increase for them.

Speaker 15 (01:56:49):
So this is going to be this will do a
lot of damage with a lot of ripple effects from this,
and it's going to take a lot of wherewithal for
somebody to for organization to weather the storm.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
Well and real quick before we move on to the
next topic, and we take a break before we do that.
I've seen many articles and I'm sure you have too.
Brian James Mallworth financial China's economy is not doing real
well and a lot of people. There's been a lot
of workers protesting in the streets that haven't been paid.
And I saw most recent article US teriffs may drive
China's economy into depression. Now, whether or not that's true,

(01:57:21):
can you guess what that global ramification might be if
China were to actually go into a depression, but that
have a profound impact or any impact on the United States?

Speaker 7 (01:57:31):
Well, I would.

Speaker 15 (01:57:33):
Everything's connected to everything, So if the United States sneezes,
everybody suffers, that's what we're you know, we're beating the
daylights out of the rest of the world. Were the
decisions that we are proactively making right now. China is
the world's second largest economy. So while while we are
in direct of somewhat violent competition with them, economically speaking,
if if China ends up going into recession, that means

(01:57:55):
they will spend less money and there will be other
trade imbalances changing. There will definitely be ripple effects from that,
because whether you're rooting for them or rooting against them,
they still factor into the equation. So if they're suffering
and they're not spending as much money, then that means
there are other other impacts that will happen to other countries.
There's just a great reshuffling of the decks. This is

(01:58:15):
again globalization as how we got here. Everybody's connected to
everybody else. So if one sneezez, everybody else gets a cold.
That's kind of how it's been for a while now.
So I would very much say that any any effect
on such a large economy, such a large supplier of
purchasing effectively, is going to have an impact for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Yeah, they do buy from other countries. I mean they
we have an imbalance with China, but that is an imbalance,
not a one sided. They only we buy from them,
So I can see how that could impact us if
they're not selling their stuff because they've gone into depression.
Complicated is and that's what we got. Brian James. We'll
talk about consumer confidence coming up. Young workers, well they

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Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Ay eighteen fifty five r C detalk station, Happy Monday,
It's money Monday. It's Brian James pivoting over from jobless
claims to consumer confidence not going in the right direction
with consumer confidence, Brian James, what's the story on this one?

Speaker 15 (02:00:26):
Consumer confidence is down? Go figure, that's the shocker of
all shockers. So fell by seven point nine points last
month in April, all the way down to eighty six.
This is the fifth consecutive month of declining confidence. And honestly,
if you think about that, that coincides exactly with the election.
So I think that there was a perception out there,
and it's not that people don't support There's obviously a

(02:00:48):
good chunk of the population that supports the Trump administration
in the situations that they bring about. But at the
same time, logic dictates that the decisions that are happening there,
decisions that are coming out, are going to have a
short term impact here, and the President himself has said
that many times. So five months of declining confidences, people
began to anticipate that these kinds of things are going

(02:01:08):
to have an impact. So lots of pessimism around there,
just future business conditions, employment prospects, I'm worried about my income,
so on and so forth, and this is all kind
of natural. This is the part of the cycle when
we're rejiggering exactly how we present ourselves as a country
to the rest of the world. We are making it
more expensive to do business with us. That is, you know,
the administration's goal here is long term gain for some

(02:01:31):
short term pain, and so right now we're in the
middle of the short term.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Well, we live in an immediate gratification kind of mindset
world these days. People aren't willing to wait it out
to see what happens, and if it does, we do
end up reaping the benefits that he has promised as
a consequence of these So but if real time your
job might be on the line, I can certainly understand
your confidence would go down.

Speaker 7 (02:01:51):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 15 (02:01:53):
I mean, this is just a situation where people are
re examining exactly what their situations are, and, as we've
talked before, themselves are having to make decisions. I want
to ensure growth through this environment. That means I need
to maybe take a hit here in the short run,
and I have to shut down lines, I have to
lay off some people. I would very much prefer to
keep those kinds of things, but I got to keep

(02:02:13):
my nose just above water until we get through this
we can kind of get back to normal. So we
are seeing some pretty steep declines in these confidence numbers,
and we'll have to see where they go over the
next few weeks. Well, and this might very well translate
over to the leading industrial indexes S and P five
hundred doubts that are.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
I know we're down over the year, but I mean
we've had some pretty big jumps of late. It's as
if the market is resisting the concerns expressed by the masses.

Speaker 15 (02:02:39):
Well, I remember what we talked about that the market
is always trying to anticipate what's coming next. So yeah,
there was a very big boying about a month ago.
We hit the but we're still down for the year.
But the Nasdaq was down fifteen eighteen percent at its
very lowest point. Now as we're sitting here, it's only
down about seven percent. Everything bounced in early April. And

(02:03:01):
as we've talked about before, if you are a diversified
portfolio holder, meaning you got a little bit of everything,
you got a horse in every race, then you're actually
doing okay. Well, a lot of diversified portfolios are actually
up for the year, believe it or not, because there
are other things out there. Then the S and P
five hundred. I'm speaking specifically of international companies, which again
are up fourteen percent year to date. If you're somebody

(02:03:22):
who abandoned everything but the US over the past fifteen
years because of how the S and P five hundred
had performed, then you are now missing out on a
more stable portfolio because of all this. So but yes,
about a month ago, things bounced back up because the
market is simply anticipating that these tariffs are going to
come and go. Eventually, cooler heads will prevail and everybody
will find their new position in all of this, and

(02:03:45):
the market will go forward. Underneath, things are relatively healthy.
There is still demand. We don't have a two thousand
and eight type situation. The economy wants to go up
and the market does too. We just need the fog.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
To clear a little bit. Well, and since the experts,
and I'm use them my little quote fingers here are
in the market, so the ones that run the businesses
are the ones that do the the you know, the
investment investment decisions. That's optimism right there. If they have
fact with this bump in the markets, smart people know
that things are going to get better. At some point
in potentially or possibly the near future, if the markets

(02:04:19):
were tanking, all these smart people are saying, no, it's
going to be it's going to hit the fan and
it's going to be terrible. So that's a little bit
of optimism built into this. If you're not even if
you're not invested in the market, well they're saying things
will probably be better.

Speaker 7 (02:04:32):
Yeah, and again I'll go back to anticipation.

Speaker 15 (02:04:34):
Those smart people have decisions they have to make, they
have to grow their portfolios. And I'm not just talking
about investment people, that's business people in general. They're moving
things around to take advantage of what they see coming.
I would remind everybody that the back in two thousand
and eight, when you know a lot of people were
invested then, and we most most of us remember that
as kind of a benchmark of how scary things can be.

(02:04:54):
The bottom of that market was March ninth of two
thousand and nine. If you go back and read headlines, Brian,
you will not see positive headlines until around June of
that year. So the headlines are always going to trail reality.
The market wants to go up. It anticipates the good
news coming, but it also makes a lot of false
head starts.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Well, and that was the other thing I was going
to say in connection with consumer confidence. I mean, try
to find a positive headline.

Speaker 4 (02:05:19):
In the world.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
It's it's a Sysavian challenge, you know, unless you look
at things like you are sort of objectively looking at
the market and recognizing the decisions that are making to
keeping that have caused the market to bounce back. That's
actually a positive story built into all of this. But
everywhere you turn, it's woe's me, and this is terrible,
and Trump sucks and you know, tariffs are killing everybody.
I mean, it's just it's hard to find a bright

(02:05:42):
spot in terms of what people's perception of how things
are out in the world. But we're not the experts really,
we're just sort of living our lives day today. And
that's you know, I think people a lot of people
are quite off and influenced by, of course what they read,
and it's maybe has no connection with necessarily a reality.

Speaker 7 (02:06:03):
Yeah, and that's.

Speaker 15 (02:06:04):
Why we have to step back and look at the forest,
not the trees. So again we focus always on financial planning.
We have to deal with this stuff. Something's got to
grow and keep up with inflation that's going to involve
the stock market in some way, shape or form for everybody.
This is what comes along with it. So let's understand
the history and make sure we're not putting ourselves in
a bad spot with it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
All right, Well, we'll bring buying back and find out
that well, apparently young workers are ready to quit burnout,
pay concerns and I don't know from what job they're
in now to what job they might take, but pay
concerns driving exodus according to the study fines analysis. We're
going to hear about that. Plus, thank god you don't
live in one of a multitude of California cities. The

(02:06:45):
price of starter homes has just gone through the roof.
But that's just not happening in California. It's happening all over.
We'll get a little bit on that from Brian James
as well. One more with Money Monday, All with Financial
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Twenty eight fifty five car ce detalk station. Hey, very
happy Monday too. One more segment with all Worth Financials
Brian Jay James Brian young workers are burned out. I
just kind of laugh at that. I remember when I
first started practicing litigation. You know, twelve hour days six
days a week, and we did it year after year

(02:08:14):
after year, And I honestly, while I might have complained
at the time, I wasn't going to quit over it. Anyway.
What's the story on this when Brian.

Speaker 15 (02:08:23):
James seventy three percent of gen Z and seventy percent
millennials are actively looking to change jobs. In other words,
three out of every four of those young people sitting
next to you are sniffing around. And this is coming
from just overall frustration with job burnout feelings and just an.

Speaker 7 (02:08:41):
Overall monotony of the work and so forth.

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
Different.

Speaker 7 (02:08:45):
Yeah, a little bit of monotony.

Speaker 15 (02:08:46):
They're not super excited about the day to day, you know,
as much as they're older.

Speaker 2 (02:08:50):
Okay, so it's a question of lacking intellectual stimulation or satisfied.
It's not. I mean, I know, we got a pay
element on this before we get to the living page,
the paycheck component. But they could be satisfied in so
far as their salary. But they're just tired of doing
what they're doing.

Speaker 7 (02:09:08):
Yeah, And I think there's another element. I heard that.

Speaker 15 (02:09:11):
I think there's another element to this. It's not even
mentioned in the article. And I'm speaking as i'd speak
to my clients. I'd always tell them that their kids
are my clients too, So I'll talk to anybody about anything.
And the impression that I get from them is that
they feel that the hill is so much steeper. We
all got to push a rock up a hill to
get to retirement. They feel their hill is a lot
steeper because they're not going to have you know, they
they're they're bombarded with the fact that social security is

(02:09:33):
going to go away. It's not, but there's still the
mental component that they're that sociecurity might take a hit,
that things are more expensive, inflation and all of this,
and they're they're among some of them, there's a feeling
of hopelessness. Why does it matter that I have that
I want to grind because I'm not going to be
able to afford it anyway. The deck is so stacked
against me. That doesn't mean they've done the math to
analyze it, but that's the drumbeat that's out there again.

(02:09:55):
Because of social media they have, they have a lot
more to contend with in terms of the loudness of
all of the.

Speaker 11 (02:10:00):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
You know, in the back of my mind immediately started
thinking of the seventies and stagflation. Things were not pretty
in this country at all, and a lot worse than
they are right now. But we've had so many decades
of without I mean, there's been bumps in the road,
as you've pointed out many times, like you know, the
tech bubble burst, in the housing bubble burst, but you
know for the last several decades, and we've had nothing

(02:10:22):
but you know, rainbows and puppy puppies. It's just it's
been really overall a great environment. They haven't seen it
pine before.

Speaker 7 (02:10:33):
Yeah, and well everything negative gets amplified.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:10:37):
So I was talking to my son and he was
explaining to me how relationships work nowadays. You can't break
up with someone because they never go away. You see
them on social media, you see how they're linked, you
see what they're talking about, all of this stuff. This
is a much different environment than any of these other
generations have had to contend with. And I kind of
got what he was saying. And it's scary out there.
And you attach that to trying to raise a family,

(02:10:59):
start your career and all that. You get surrounded by Oh,
so and so is doing so much better than you.
So and so just bought this house. Everybody's happy, wonderful.
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
Right?

Speaker 7 (02:11:07):
You can't get away from that and focus on your
job now.

Speaker 2 (02:11:10):
And I think every generation has struggled with some component
of what you just said before. And I think you
just try to focus on your own life and quit
comparing yourself to the Joneses. We don't all live at
a different level, and we all live at different levels,
and thus it has ever been but back to the
paycheck to paycheck component. I suppose that would be a
little disheartening if you can't save any money at all.

Speaker 7 (02:11:30):
Yeah, and that's another three quarters of people.

Speaker 15 (02:11:32):
Seventy four percent of employees say they're living paycheck to paycheck,
which simply means that I get paid and I pay
my bills and the checking account goes back down to zero.
I can't make any headway. I can't save money to
take the family on a vacation. I can't work on
paying my mortgage down faster. I can't bump up my
four oh one K percentage contribution. I just feel like
I'm stuck in the mud. And then that leads to this,
is there another opportunity out there? What should I be doing?

(02:11:54):
Can I can I put myself in a better spot,
or it leads to quiet.

Speaker 7 (02:11:58):
Quitting and just kind of hanging up and doing the
bare minimum.

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
Hmm, okay, pivoting over one of the reasons people are
a living in paycheck to paycheck. I couldn't believe the
numbers on this one, Brian James. Starter homes top one
million dollars in two hundred and thirty three cities. That's
doubled since since am I sorry it was eighty five
cities that had that price in twenty twenty. This is amazing.

Speaker 15 (02:12:22):
Yeah, so five years ago only eighty five cities had
a median start These are starter homes, right, So the
typical starter home now costs a million dollars or more
in two hundred and thirty some areas. Now this is
not affecting Cincinnati. We're still we've got a booming real
estate market. But starter homes around here about a quarter
million dollars so, which is still a relative to our
local environment. That still has an impact, of course, But

(02:12:43):
this is this is highlighting the affordability crisis in the
housing market. And this is another thing I can't like
we just got done talking about. I'm unhappy with my job.
I don't get paid enough. Why am I bothering to
do all this? I just can't make things go. And
part of this can be because of the mortgage payment
that stares somebody in the face on the first of
every month.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
That in when they reassess your property taxes and it
jumps sixty three percent, and you're not prepared for that
kind of hit, like Claremont County and other counties have
struggled with. You know, it's a little disheartening to say
the least. Although the bright spot in this is thank
god we don't live in California. You already gave props
to the city of Cincinnati for him in much lower
than a million dollars. One hundred and thirteen of these

(02:13:21):
two hundred and thirty three cities are in California. That
speaks volumes New New York, New Jersey right behind. To me,
none of this is a shock because these are the
places we always hear about is being more expensive with
regard to real estate. So this is also revealing that
the United States is short by about four and a
half million homes. In other words, if we had four
and a half million more homes available for purchase, the

(02:13:43):
purchase price would be down closer to a normal level.
That's why you're still seeing subdivisions. We live up here
in Butler County's new subdivision going up in a cornfield
every other week. It seems like we've got some catching
up to do.

Speaker 15 (02:13:54):
The builders are certainly doing their part to put them
out there, but we haven't gotten to a point yet
where it has truly made an.

Speaker 7 (02:14:00):
Impact on the price of a starter home.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
Well, and I imagine those brand new subdivision homes probably
a little more pricey than you know, the two hundred
and fifty thousand figure you just mentioned, which means someone
is going to be moving from maybe a starter home
and buying one of the newer homes out in the subdivisions,
which will free up some of these more affordable starter
homes for the for the people.

Speaker 15 (02:14:21):
Yeah, the United States, it's a profit margin.

Speaker 7 (02:14:23):
That's where I live.

Speaker 15 (02:14:24):
So those builders are building the type of homes off
of which they can make the most profit, and unfortunately
that doesn't tend to be that starter home. No.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
I see the fixed rate mortgage. The rate dipped a
little bit to six point eight one percent last week,
which was previously seven point one seven, so that's going
in the right direction. Any before we part company, Brian
James any te lea freading on the direction that's going
to go.

Speaker 15 (02:14:45):
Well, we need to see exactly what's going to be
happening here with the rest of the economy, you know,
we we it's pretty clear out there that the President
would very much like mister Jerome Powell to start cutting
rates yesterday. But that does not happen, and it does
not appear likely a meeting this week. But there is
zero chance that we're going to see a raid cut
out of this one, so I wouldn't look for movement
there anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
All Right, we'll ride it through as we always do.
Brian James Alworth, Financial Camp. Thank you though for the
time he spoke my listeners me every Monday. Look forward
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But this Maine is having a bit of a back
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this just happened. Most recently, trans identifying athlete competed in
the North Yarmouth Hademy in Yarmouth, Maine. The biological male
in the girls competition won the girls eight hundred meter
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(02:16:15):
in Maine. The same athlete dating back to fo what
was it February anyway, jumping from fourth place in the
five k division in the girls category after previously finishing
one hundred and seventy seventy second in the boys competition.
This athlete made national headlines for competing in the Nordic

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meters with a time of five fifty seven to twenty
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It's like a nineteen second rough difference between the two.
The male beat the female by about nineteen seconds. A
bit closer in the and the other competition, the eight
hundred meter two forty three thirty one, about a second
better than the second place finisher to forty forty seven,
proving yet again the cold hard reality that men have

(02:17:26):
a competitive advantage over women in sports. Go ahead, look
up records, and that this is even a hill that
the Democrats thinks worth dying on. And they're in the
middle of litigation with the Trump administration. I mean State
Representative Laurel Libby. She's been in trouble for making comments
about this before. She pointed out today, a biological male
won the eight hundred and sixteen hundred the girls division

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and fourth and further in those races was pushed aside
so a boy could win. This is not fair. Our
girls deserve a fair, safe and level playing field. Now
she had done this before, commented on a transathlete who
won a girl's pole vaunting comics competition getting her a

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censure from the legislature's Democrat majority, and she's in a
lawsuit over that one. Now, as to that Nordic skiing event,
one of the main female athletes who had to compete
against the trans athlete in that event said, the defeat
that comes with that in that moment is heartbreaking. I'm

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just in shock in a way. I didn't believe it.
I didn't think it was happening to me. So for
its part of the Department of Justice and now allows
a lawsuit against the State of Maine for its continued
defiance of the Executive Order to keep biological men out
of girls and women's sports and alleged violations of Title nine.
So this will all get hammered out in court. But
again the governor there, Janet Mills, is like, bring it.

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I'm happy to go to court and litigate the issue
that are being raised in this court complaint, she said
in reaction to the Department of Justices action. Again, and
you know this, I guess Democrats don't care about polling
because the vast majority of folks in the state of
main the vast majority of folks on the republic are
and at least on the Republican and independence side of

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the Ledger are overwhelmingly against this, and a whole good
sizable chunk of Democrats are against this concept as well.
It's simply a question of fairness and in sometimes safety.
There's been a lot of those cases where the transgender
athlete has harmed a female. I mean, think about a
boxing competition. I mean, seriously, one thing to swimming. At

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least it's not a contact sport. It's one thing for running,
at least it's not a contact sport. But that doesn't
change the reality of the simple, objective unfairness of what's
going on. Let's see what Maureene's got. Hey, Maureen, thanks
for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 12 (02:19:55):
Hi, good morning, Brian, thanks for taking my call. I
just want to pickyback on christ Movement's call in regards
to the police officers. I found myself at the end
of some guns being drawn in a drug rate. I
actually got home from work one day and there was
a buzz at the gates. Is when we used to

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live in Hamilton County and lived in the kind of
the middle of a forest on a few acres, and
they were at at one of our gates, and they
buzzed up and said that they needed to come in
and it was on marked car and they needed to
surveil our property for possible drug of being grown on
the property. And so it's sure, come on up. I'd

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like to know about that. Yeah, so I said, but
you'll need to come up the other gate because then
you'll have access to look around more. The other one
was to the garage, so he said, okay, fine, he
went to the other gate. I'm walking out the window,
and I buzzed up that gate, and as soon as
he started pulling through, four other police cars came from
around the corner, two of them, one mark, two marked,

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and so they all came out, heavily armed and questioning
about surveilling the property. They see a significant amount They
received the tip apparently from Duke Energy that did an
aerial view of the power lines, the guest line and
they lost a lot of marijuana growing. So I said, fine,
go find out what's going on. Never for one minute

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did I think that they weren't being heavy handed they
were doing their job, and I felt I didn't feel
like I was being profiled or targeted or anything. And
as it turns out, that on we'd put a fence
around our property and at the time we got anonymous
letter from our neighbors saying, how can you put up

(02:21:40):
the fence in a beautiful forest? Anyway, long story short,
Now we know why they wrote that letter because they've
been growing that for quite some time. But anyway, yeah,
so they did. I turned out thanking them for their service,
and they sent us pictures of what they were able
to take away, and they took care and handled it
very professionally. But it can be skared at that time.

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But I feel like if you're not doing anything wrong,
then then you might want to help them do their job.

Speaker 2 (02:22:08):
Yeah, I understand that default position. I mean, I don't
do anything wrong at least, I mean, somebody might question
me morally or ethically or something like that, but I'm
not breaking any laws, so my inclination will be Yeah, officer,
I'm happy to help out. I mean what else would
I say? I mean, I too would want to know
if if I had a large enough property that I
couldn't keep track of every little every single plant that

(02:22:28):
was growing on it, and someone's growing an illegal crop.
I guess now it might be legal depending on the
number of plants that are being grown, but still I
would want to find that out and take some steps
to eradicate the even possibility of that happening down the road.
So I'm in your corner on that one, Maureen. A
lot of people don't share that perception. They're like, the
Constitution is what it is, and if you don't have
a warrant, I'm not letting you on my property, And

(02:22:50):
I think that just sets you up probably for something
bad to happen.

Speaker 12 (02:22:55):
Yeah, I can kind of see that too. But we
did get out of Hamilton County once a have to
have care of all was on it. We knew that
wasn't gonna end well. But if Corey Bowen, when I'd
consider moving back.

Speaker 2 (02:23:04):
Oh, we'd love to have you back in town.

Speaker 11 (02:23:06):
Maureene.

Speaker 2 (02:23:06):
I miss seeing you at listening lines. I appreciate your
calls and I can't thank you know for keeping us
thinging into in touch with the program and for tuning
into the program that means the world to me. You
have a wonderful day, Maureene had a wonderful week. If
I don't hear from you again later this week. It's
eight forty seven right now, fifty five k see the
talk station. One more segment of talk talk and if
you want to call in you can.

Speaker 4 (02:23:26):
I'll be right back fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 2 (02:24:33):
Election Day tomorrow an opportunity for my friends in the
City of Cincinnati to send a shot over at about
after approval in the current council line up, vote Corey Bowman,
even if you don't plan on voting for him in November.
You want to change the dynamic of the council in
the direction of the city council. I think he'll be
a great thing for you to do. Plus, Corey's a
good guy. He's a great alternative to what we're dealing
with right now. At least that's my impression of him

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many times that I've had conversations with him. So let's
go to the phone and see what Jay's got this morning.
He Hey, thanks so much for calling. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (02:25:02):
Hey, thanks Brian. Hey, wanted to thank you and also
thank Jennifer Gross. We've been hearing so many Republicans talk
about the six hundred million dollars of which you are
going to be bigger than that with the Browns. And
they preface it by saying, don't worry about it. Your
taxes aren't going to go up because we're going to
be raising bonds. Well too, don't worry about it because

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it's already in the budget. But we're going to issue bonds.
And you you are the first person I've heard that
asked the great question of who in the hill is
going to service this debt? If not for the Ohio
taxpayersh is this Columbus government. Are they creating a product
or service that we don't know about? I mean, they're

(02:25:45):
definitely you're stepping into the banking role, in the financing role.
I don't know why Ohio banks aren't coming on glued
saying how are we going to compete with the state
of Ohio. They're going to be issuing bonds to give
six hundred million dollars to a private business like the
Cleveland Browns. I would think that their their stock would
start to tank, and at fifth third and Chase and

(02:26:06):
and the rest of them, which would start maybe banding
together and saying if you're going to have to start
competing with Ohio, you're in deep trouble. But I'm sick
of the Republicans Party saying, don't worry about it, your
taxes aren't going.

Speaker 1 (02:26:18):
To go up.

Speaker 10 (02:26:19):
I heard you say it, I've heard elected representatives say it.
It's propaganda. And we give the left plenty of hell
for their left wing media and and the left being
on a propaganda tour. It could be Republicans in Ohio
have nothing on CNN when it comes to big government spending.

(02:26:39):
So good for you guys to call it out. And
I'd say to everybody, get out here and vote no
on issue too.

Speaker 5 (02:26:44):
Today.

Speaker 2 (02:26:44):
Well day, you know the debt service. You borrow the money,
so it's not coming out of the general fund. This
money for this slush fund that they have created and
are now trying to enshrine the constitution. But the ability
to borrow money to put into that Roads and Infrastructure
Fund has to pay. You have to pay debt service ardt.
It's like putting on a credit card tab. So it
becomes wine an ongoing line item in the in the

(02:27:07):
in the annual budget that must the debt service has
to be paid for, so that takes money away from
some other project. But Jennifer Gross said that they don't
have a revenue problem in Columbus. They have a spending problem.
And that's kind of what was boiled down. They don't
want to make the tough decisions and say no, we
can fund the broad roads, bridges and infrastructure, because that
comes to the cost to other stuff they want to

(02:27:29):
do well.

Speaker 10 (02:27:30):
And Mike DeWine raised the gas tax fifteen minutes after
he was elected in his first term, and everybody remembers
that it went up significantly because it was dire consequences,
so that money should already be covered and if we
would go back to take a look, it was, it
was immediate. So vote no on this if we've got
six hundred million dollars to throw at the Browns and

(02:27:50):
we got millions, hundreds of millions to throw to vote
no today, please well done, Brian.

Speaker 1 (02:27:57):
I'm with you, Jay.

Speaker 2 (02:27:58):
I appreciate that if you didn't hear Jennifer Gross podcast,
that she did a wonderful analysis of this issue too.
And so if you're confused and you're like, well, how
come I see all these Republican and Democrat science saying
vote yes on issue too? Follow the money the organized

(02:28:19):
campaign to vote yes on issue too coming from unions
there are gonna be the prime beneficiaries of these so
called infrastructure projects. And do you know if your infrastructure
structure project is going to be covered by this new
money that's going into this fund. The answer is no.
And the idea that you're gonna have any control over it.
That's going to go to your neighborhood, your committee, that

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bridge that needs servicing that has been falling apart, or
that you had to reduce your load on, like one
in Giagara County. She pointed out, Man Columbus has never
heard of Jeaga County. They don't have enough population to
fund campaigns. All the big money is going to go
to the larger communities, at least that's my perception. That's
the perception of Jennifer Gross. Why we reward them and
give them greater flexibility and well and you less make

(02:29:05):
him go after the gas tax and and fix the
roads with that. That's tough for work to do though
it makes their jobs more difficult. Coming up at eight
fifty five, Kenkober FLP President on the tragedy of that
deputy getting mowed down by the father of the the
eighteen year old with a clock twenty three to forty
caliber the extended magazine, who ran from police out of

(02:29:27):
a stolen car and brandished the firearm at the police officer.
Try to make some sense of that, there is no
sense to be made, and Ken Cober responding on behalf
of the Well, the Union for the Insane Police Department,
Jennifer Gross as I mentioned seven oh five this morning,
Christopher Smithman, but he's on fire as he always is
with the smith event Money Monday, and well, the rest
of the material there at fifty five KRC dot com,

(02:29:47):
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when you're over there checking it out. Folks, tune in tomorrow.
We'll talk election day issues and probably Brightbart Inside Scoop
and the regular stuff. Daniel Davis Deep Dive tomorrow. Have
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And that's so important.

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