55KRC Monday Show - Venezuela, Smitherman, Scott Hughes, Andre Ewing

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Five o five at fifty five k r C the
talk station. Happy Monday, something will a vacation this duke,

(00:28):
What the hell could uti vacation from my vacation? Ah,
Happy Monday and Happy New Year to everybody. Brian Thomas, Well,
I'm happy to be back on some levels and not
happy to be back because I was able to sleep
until eight o'clock in the morning every day while I
was off, which was really amazing. I cannot tell you
how good that is. But at two thirty alarm went off.

(00:49):
I got right out of bed. Was afraid it was
going to oversleep, so enough motivation to get out of
bed because I didn't know if my voice would even
work this morning. Appreciate those that covered for me, and
thank you Jo Ecker for the best of It's of
funny when I get the best of shows. Joe reruns
interviews that I've done in the past and put together
a nice four hour segment of some important interviews that

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he hand selects. I get text Joe. I got a
bunch of text messages people saying, hey, would you please
bring up and can you mention this? And I really
enjoyed the interview with so and so. You should say
something along these lines of like I'm on vacation. I
wake up, I got like four text messages, and I
get out of BET at eight, Like there they are

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some stuff that's been running on the show since the
mic went on at five, or the well recordings went
on at five o'clock. Anyway, got a kick out. I
certainly appreciate the people chiming in. No, I was on
vacation and I did enjoy it, and I want to
thank my family for the wonderful time. And you know,
I don't know if Joe's anybody you know have a
deal with the flu that's going through you, you know people.

(01:53):
I don't know how you can avoid it. It went
through our entire family, ruined our crew. Well I can't
say it ruined Chris us because it didn't really ruin Christmas.
It just caused that delay. We couldn't have our traditional
Christmas meal together. And you know, God bless my mom
all my words. She was so so sick. I mean
she was out for a couple of weeks. And you know,

(02:14):
I got it, my wife got it. Fortunately, tamilflu to
the rescue for us. We got a Tama flu prescription
right out of the gate and only lasted a couple
of days with the flu, so quick recovery for us
and my daughter had I just went through everybody. So
I hope that if you had to deal with the
struggles of that flu going around, that you got through
it without too any problems. Anyway. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three Taco
with toime five fifty on at and T funds. Gee,
it's too bad. There's nothing going on in the world
to talk about. Wow. I came in this morning, and
I absolutely loved it when it first came out. That
was that was the sense I inquire that posted it,
how your neighborhood had voted, neighborhood voted for mayor, And

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there's this graphic of the city of Cincinnati and all
the different neighborhood and how overwhelmingly the vast majority of
them voted for After a provo in the current administration,
you know, status quo continues. He's got a color graphic
map taped up in here in the fifty five Carrici
Morning Show studios promptly displayed. So when we finally get
to for example, for example, Christopher Smitheman, who will be

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joining the program at seven twenty. So when we talk
to Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes at seven point
forty five and get his opinion on the violence that
happened over the last couple of weeks, and we hear
from brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre in studio, love hearing
from him about the violence that's going on around the city.
There's a lot going on, and I love Signal ninety

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nine I have given her and the group that collectively,
I suppose is the the posting that is on Facebook
Signal ninety nine former police officers. She is, but it
gets a lot of help from active law enforcement officers
about the information she shares. Man. She has been on
fire calling out the administration its failures here on a
local level, but obviously with the so called regime change

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going on in Venezuela. I want to start now the
questions of legality, international law violations, you know, extra extra
constitutional military actions. I know all of the arguments, I
have read them. I know with Senator Paul and Senator
in Congressman Massey say about it, there is precedent for

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this Maduro, precedent for Maduro. Yeah. Does ever remember Uhriegan Noriega?
President Manuel Noriega. Yeah, we did this before, and Noriega

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made all of the legal arguments that you can anticipate
that Madua is going to make in court, and it
failed across the board. Was Bush impeached as a consequence
of this? No? And what is the the ultimate penalty
if a president acts extra constitutionally? Are they going to
haulme through an impeachment hearing? This remains to be seen.

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There's so much to unpackage on this, but I'm going
to start at least and give props to, regardless of
how you feel about how the administration did this and
whether or not it's an appropriate thing, Props to the
American military. I'm old enough to remember when Jimmy Carter
tried to rescue the hostages and that did not go well.
It was a national military embarrassment. We lost service members,

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helicopters crash, We did not free the hostages. It was
in international embarrassment. Compare that operation with what happened over
the weekend. You know, Maduro hasn't had I should underscore
had a military. He's got soldiers all around him, not
a single American service member lost in that action, success

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carried out over a matter of just a very short
period of time. Lights go out, military targets, the air
defenses are blown up, allowing us our military to successfully
engage and get to the target, grab him, pick him up,
and take him out of the country in a matter
of moments. It was an amazing operation. So, in spite

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of the ripple effects this is going to have, and
it's going to profound ripple effects, that it was so
successfully carried out, I want to just salute and congratulate
the men and women in uniform and the amount of
preparation that went to this. Was a retired Delta Delta
Force vet who talked about this. It was just interviewed
by Fox News. Guy named John McPhee served as US

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Army's Elite Special Operations, you know, speaking with Fox over
the weekend yesterday, specifically pointing out the biggest challenge of
all this came before the operators reached the target. He said,
I'd say the most difficult task is knocking out all
of the air offenses and getting guys on the ground.
Once the guys are on the ground, they can handle themselves. However,
you gotta get to the fight if you're going to
have a fight, And isn't that impressive. I'm proud of

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the American military, at least in so far as carrying
out the operation. Again, we're left with the aftermath of
what is going to happen next, but you cannot deny
the wild success that we had and at least carrying
out the operation and succeeding on the goal that was
articulated by the President and of course his advisors. It's amazing.

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And this retired forces guy, he said something like this
would take months to kind of plan to get organized.
But once the guy's figured it out, there's no stopping him.
And they had created a mock up of the I
guess the presidential living quarters, and they planned raids using
a building that they created that mirrored the one that

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Maduro was in. And you know, you know that we
had help and there's been a lot of rumors circulating,
and we had inside information that we knew where he
was going to be at any given time, we followed
his actions, we knew what he wore during the day,
we knew where he was going to walk to, so
lots of inside information, of course, putting operatives in place
was critical to this mission. How many how do you

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find a guy unless you have help on the inside.
And let me ask you this, where is Venezuela's military Now?
They didn't just disappear, or maybe they did. Are they
going to be willing to play, uh, play nicely with

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the Trump administration as he tries to successfully run the
country as he kind of framed it the other day,
Are we going to have boots on the ground inside
Venezuela try to keep order? It was also the other
concern that I have insofar as event as well as
military concerned. I cant imagine a lot of them. They're
so corrupt, they're so you know, entrenched with this money
that's flowing in from you know, the likes of China

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and Russia, because of course they're the ones buying the
sanctioned oil. A lot of the corruption extends way into
the military. They're prett sitting fat and happier war up
until over the weekend, sitting fat and happy, and they're
a corrupt position within the military. Are they gonna well
just give up and and and just roll over and
play dead? Or might they if they're purest if they

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are really believers in the Socialist cause, and these evil
American and perilousts coming in. Might they weighe some sort
of perhaps terrorist or gorilla operation a La Fidel Castro
in the mountains fighting off Batista complications abound? What did

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we bite off in doing this? But I have to
joke around a little bit about this, because I thought
it was It's really funny that Eric Adams, of all people,
former Democratic New Romeric New York City mayor Eric Adams
replaced by, yes, Nicholas Mudua. I'm sorry, Mondomni accused the

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Biden and Harris administration treating public safety as a political
gain his words, because if you recall back in January
of twenty five, before Biden left office, he increased the
bounty on Nicholas Madu to twenty five million dollars. I
guess it was previously ten million dollars. So we had
an indictment he was. Madua was indicted in federal court

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for drug charges. He had an outstanding warrant for his arrest.
Biden doubles down by putting a twenty five million dollar
bounty on him. I guess he really wanted him. Is
that Biden suggesting to well, maybe someone else will grab him.
You know, the US isn't gonna do the work of
going in and grabbing Nicholas Maduro. But hey, somebody out
there who's interested in grabbing twenty five million dollars. If
your tip leads the arrest of Nicholas Maduro or his capture,

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you're gonna get twenty five million dollars in the American taxpayer.
So interesting sort of trying to reconcile that public safety
is not a political game, Adams Road. You do not
label someone a narco dictator one year and then pretend
he's no longer a thret threat the next simply because
the different president is in office, right And what of

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all these protesters in the streets, anyone find it rather
interesting suspicious that they immediately showed up after Maduro gets captured.
They have flyers printed, They're protesting literally within hours of
his capture. That's a well oiled machine floating around out
there in the United States of America. And who are

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they supporting? A socialist dictator, murderer, thug, corrupt, criminal, drug
dealer and financier of terrorist organizations. And the ripple effect
on that one is rather profound too. China and Russia
and Iran all playing quite nicely with the Venezuelan regime.
What happens to them? Now? What do they do in

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response to this? See the pretext for all of this
is the precedent that was set with Manuel Noriega. The
criminal charges that he was engaged in criminal activity while

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acting as a head of state gets us around the
sticky wicket of international law, because international law does not
protect well in this case, the dictator who is engaged
in criminal activity. You know, there are state actions head
of state immunity is what they call it. But that
immunity does not protect leaders who are engage in criminal enterprises.

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So once you've got that indictment from back in twenty twenty,
he has been under indictment since then for criminal enterprises,
then all of this regime change kind of is a
corollary effect. So you can accomplish the regime change by

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hanging your hat on the precedent from Manuel Noriega. Well,
all we need is the indictment. We went through the
whole criminal process, and I can break it down for it.
What happened Manuel Noriega and all the arguments that Maduro
is going to make in courts here in the United States,
which is where he's going to be tried. But if
you just stick with that and you focus on him
being a criminal drug dealer, yes, you're gonna get regime change.

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Was that the forst and foremost thing. I don't know.
Some say that was the reason Trump went in. But
he has that hat or he has that hook to
hang his hat on the drug or the drug indictment. Again,
would served as legal president for this to happen, Yes,
it will be regime change. Yes, it will disrupt China's influence,
perhaps Russia's influence, perhaps in South America. Yes, it will

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open up us to perhaps, I don't know, managing the
oil resons there. We don't personally need the oil, but
you know, Venezuela has more oil than anybody on the
planet in terms of countries. Was that the motivation for this?
Was it the oil? He says he's going to let
the oil companies go in and you know, build back

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the system that they originally built that were taken over
because they went socialist on us back when with the
Chevista regime took over. So they confiscated American interest in
American property, made it state interest and state owned at
the time, which means oil companies may have a vested
interest in going back in and tapping into the largest
oil reserves on the planet. That remains to be seen

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whether they're willing to do that or not. But it
was the criminal indictment and labeling him a criminal that
provides the precedent for this and everything else that comes afterward.
Love to hear from you, you've got something to say
about it. Feel free helped me out this morning five one, three,

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seven fifty two three con Fi fifty on AT and
T phone Extra Special Daniel Davis Deep Dive today about Venezuela.
Retire Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis joins a program at seven
to five to talk about that. I can't wait for that.
I hope you can stick around fifty five KRC dot
Com easier fifty five KRC DE talk station. Yeah, it

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went really long in the last segment, chattier than I
thought I would be. My first day back to work.
Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five eight hundred
eighty two to three Talk on FI fifty on AT
and T phone. As I mentioned, going out of the
close of the last segment, Daniel Davis Deep dive that
they would do a special edition with that. Really looking
forward hearing what Daniel Davis has to say. Most notably,
given the these layers of complication, we got Russia, Cuba, China,

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Iran all impacted by this, Yeah, shutting off. You will
completely don't know if that's going to happen. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
You got to Venezuelan military component, as I mentioned. Are
they going to capitulate? Are they going to turn sides?
Are they gonna, you know, play play nice with the
Trump administration? Are they gonna, you know, go off on
their own and fight against this happening? There most assuredly
will be boots on the ground during some transition period
in the United States prepared to do that and wondering
how you feel about it, most notably if you've young

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people serving their country in uniform and again saluted American
military on that operation. Just absolutely amazing. Five to twenty
five fifty five care Steve Talk Station Local Stories A
stack of crime under the handwritten note from Joe Strecker.
This is all the violence, murders and assaults in crime
that happened while you were on break. Great, there's like

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nine thousand articles here from crime in downtown Cincinnati. Looking
forward to having Andre you ain't talking about that as
well as police chiefs got used from Hamilton Township, and
of course Christopher Smithman, I'm sure you'll have a word
to say about that as well. That's coming up in
the morning show. We can stick around. Calls are quite
welcome right now, be right back. This is try to

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make it a happy Monday and a very happy New
Year today, everybody. I'll beg of New Year's resolution. I
didn't do one this year. I typically don't, just setting
myself up for failure. Away. I look at Neear's resolutions anyway,
looking forward having George Brenham and the Keith ten Fell
back on to do another rethink health together kind of discussion.

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Maybe we can help each other along to maybe take
control of our health and our diets and our exercise
in the calendar year. Make it a happy, healthy twenty
twenty six. So I went three, seven, four, nine, fifty, fight,
two to three, talk fifty on the AT and T phone.
One little news item that I could not avoid over
the break, Such a sad thing New Year's Day shooting.

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Eleven year old girl was killed senseless act of violence,
quurt to since I police queen, I Reread eleven years
old ended up passing away at since a children's hospital
courtA since a police shooting that killed Read happened near
Laurel Playground, West Liberty Street and John Street quarter to
seven pm. West End quite known for its crime. The

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West End is quite known for the crime. Is it
a joe? I mean, do we have a lot of
violence going on in the West End? And didn't they
say something about cameras there was there were going to
be cameras installed on the West End. Apparently not. Mayor
after have provol issued a statement on Friday, after receiving
approval from iris ROLI I imagine, offering condolences for Reath's

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family and full support for the police investigation. Well that's good.
A mayor is actually supporting the investigation of the murder
of an eleven year old. That's a bold statement from
to have parvoll, isn't it. According to Intern police Chief
Adam Henny Decked is working tirelessly to find the person

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who killed Reading the senseless act of violence. Three forty
crime starers the number if you have any information on that,
I knew. Corey Bowman outspoken on that one. But what
of the promised security cameras are there not installed in
the West End park where the eleven year old girl
was killed, Corey Bowman, right down the street, because that's
whereas church Is said, she was playing in the playground

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with her cousins of similar age and all she was
doing was having fun at six o'clock in the afternoon.
And it happened in the same locations where cameras were
promised but never installed. This after eleven year old Dominic
Davis was killed more than two years ago. What do
they do after that one? Apparently no arrests have been
made in that one. Either maybe MAYORFT have purvol didn't

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support the full police investigation to the murder of Dominic Davis. Now,
it was just this past September, after the violence that
we all remember vividly that happened, you know, the beat
down in downtown Cincinnia Government Square. We got Sarah Herringer
that well now moved out of town as a consequence
of having her husband murdered in their own apartment in

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over the Rhine. Oh, we're gonna get some help from
the governor. Helped It apparently didn't last. They asked for
two days worth of help, they didn't accept all the
government's help, and then after taking four days, they've just
ended it apparently, Thank you again to Signal ninety nine
for letting me know about that one. So what do
they do? Last September they passed a five point four

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million dollar safety plan with one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars specifically allocated for cameras and lights in the area
that they had been promised for years, over in the
West End park where the eleven year old girl was
killed on last Wednesday night. So if they had been
promised for years these cameras, did the financial allocation only

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come this past September when they specifically earmarked one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars for those cameras that go in.
Clearly they had not been installed by New Year's Day?
When will they be installed? And I'm not necessarily, you know,
a believer that the cameras are going to solve the problem.
Of course, they'll go a long way to finding suspects

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and bringing people to justice. Will they act as a
deterrence to crime? Many people believe they do. Mean I
always joke about criminals who go into convenience stores and
rob them at gunpoint and their faces aren't covered, and
you're like, dude, don't you realize that there are cameras
literally everywhere. Clearly it doesn't act as it to turn
in all cases, but at least she help helps you
find a bad guy. It might provide some comfort for

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the folks in West End who are dealing with a
lot of violence. The one person pointed out there's been
between thirty and forty people shot in the neighborhood. The
neighborhood only has sixty eight hundred residents, pointing out that
the from a probability perspective is pretty damn bad. And
the violence continues. A West End man got accused of

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shooting a woman and two children on Christmas Day, arguing
self defense. James Brown, not that one fifty eight charged
in Hamilton County Municipal Court with three counts of flonious assault.
He showed up in court on the day after Christmas
for an arraignment. Judge Brad Greenberg set bond at nine
hundred thousand dollars. Well, there's a good one. That's a
really am maarkable thing for Hamilton County. They say you

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open fire on the woman as well as a fifteen
year old to ten year old, all shot inside a vehicle.
Thankfully non life threatening injuries. A fifteen year old to
ten year old and one more here just from the

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other day. Woman was hospitalized her to being attacked with
a hammer in all West End apartment on Liberty and Lynn.
Victim's mom didn't want to be identified, I can imagine,
said her daughter, Kyala Johnson, was hit in the face
with a hammer multiple times, leaving her unrecognizable. Man accused
of the crime, thirty nine year old Anthony Jackson, now
charged with flonious assault. Pardon me and the weird thing

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about it? Calls came in after ports from witnesses who
say they saw this female on a Facebook live stream
being attacked and assaulted by her boyfriend. She was actually
filming herself getting the crap beat out of her. But
for that and Joe's actually Joe saw the video, I

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have no interest in seeing the video because I have
a feeling it would be a rather heartbreaking thing. Joe.
I can see the look on his face, and it
was that and then some The attack lasted twenty minutes.
Jackson given a five hundred thousand dollars secured bond. And

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it's weird because he has faced several charges of violence
over the past few years. All of those charges dropped
or dismissed. Hmm by thirty six five krs beat pukstation.
Thank you just the biggest douche.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Of the universe, in all the galaxies. There's no bigger
douche than you. You reached the top the pinnacle of
doue dump. Good going, Douce, your dreams have come true.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Thank you Streker, perfectly time we'd be right back. But
the stack is stupid. This is fifty five KRC and
iHeart rate to you, and happy New Year to all
and welcoming in New Year with a news stacker stuper
although with those local stories in there, they could probably
qualify for the stack is stupid, like this One eighteen

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year old Minnesota man charged with punching a homeless woman
at the face of the Mall of America for a
TikTok video that was his motivation. Vescot's alleged Cleve Brown,
walked up to the forty six year old victim. She
was at a water fountain. Mall security video. Oh look,
there's security video. Shocking recorded Brown punching the woman in

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the back of the head, causing her to follow the ground.
Cop said they weren't even sure if she lost consciousness
or not. Police Departman noted that these security officials identified
the victim as possibly mentally disabled and that the assault
was bad. That was their words, okay. Brown and a

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group of unknown males fled the mall after the attack,
were tracked to a jeep Grand Cherokee and detained Hmmm,
court of the report. Cleve later told mall security that
they did that for a TikTok video. Brown explained to
the police that he tends to vlog and that's why

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he was wearing quote, a portable microphone on his person
when arrested. Charged with fellow the assaulting disorderly conduct misdemeanor
for the December sixteenth mall incident. Saint Paul Resident also
on an outstanding warrant charging him with trespassing fleeing police.
Ye also in addition to that, has a pending case
for theft and obstruction.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Perio is the biggest douche of the universe, in all
the galaxies.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
There's no bigger douche than used. You've reached the top
the pinnacle.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Of douche dum good going douce, your dreams have come true.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Societal de evolution with social media just had to observed
that Pennsylvania woman who maybe you'll recall this one from
a prior stagger stupid, that's the way vany. A woman
who defecated inside the beer cave and a Royal Farm's
convenience story has now been sentenced. During court hearing, Crystal Goss,

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forty seven, pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charge of disorderly
conduct that created quote a hazardous and physically offensive condition
close quote find a whopping seventy five dollars in order
to pay restitution of eighty dollars to the Hanover business.
Judge also barred her from returning to the store, which

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is apparently a mile from her house. Arrested the last
April after Royal Farms worker called the police to report
that an unknown woman head quote come in the previous
day and defecated in the beer cave close quote. A
police review of oh whoa, that's a lot of feces
apparently so and yes, there is surveillance footage which was
reviewed by police showing her quote pushing a case of

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alcoholic beverages back on the shelf, pulling your pants down
and defecating on the shelves then leaving as this tradition.
I love the reporting from the smoking gun on as
the five pm bathroom break offered Gauze a little privacy

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since quote doors into the beer cave and cold areas
are clear glass, providing a visual of the inside of
the common area of the store. Workers however, didn't spot
her in the act. Well, that's why we have video surveillance,
isn't it. In addition this orderly conduct, she was charged
with open lewdinous, scattering rubbish and colonel mischief. Those counts

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withdrawn by prosecutors as part of the negotiated plea deal.
I think restitution of eighty dollars if you think that
that offense is you know, if you're the employee that's
got to deal with that, I would value that offense
at a little bit more than eighty dollars. In real
damages like psychological and emotional damages should go along with

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that as well. Just a thought, maybe there'll be a
civil suit. Five forty five fifty five care Seedy Talk station.
It's a new year. How about little without Pain This
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happy one to you, don't forget fifty five carsee dot
comedy you can't listen to live. I've got the podcasts
of my guests today coming to beginning with special Daniel
Davis Deep Dive at seven oh five on Venezuela, Christopher
Smith Iman at seven twenty. I'm guessing he will maybe
make a comment or two about the violence in the city.
Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes coming up at seven
forty five his opinion on the violence over the past

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couple of weeks, and Brother Ewing Brother Jay. He's coming
to the studio at eight oh five and share his
thoughts in comments. I really enjoy hearing what he has
to say on his Facebook commentary. He's outspoken human being
and I enjoy getting his thoughts in comments here in
the fifty five Cassee Morning Show, yours as well five
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t phones Not in the Stack is stupid but some
high comedy from Joe Strecker. Thank you Joe for giving
me a have tab parvolls January twenty twenty sixth calendar
every day of the month, fully four Thursday the first
get approval from Iris Rolli on his statement condemning the
violence and offering thoughts and prayers for the murder of

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an eleven year old in the camera Free West End.
Particularly comical in Joe's outline of the calendar protests Venezuela
on Friday the second, that will be the day before
the military operation in Venezuela happened. So apparently AFTAB got
advanced notice. And you know, seriously toward that, is it

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not remarkable? How immediate? And I mentioned it earlier in
the hour that immediately these well prepared flyers and placards
and posters just showed up, and all the organization of
protests in the street magically appearing. You don't tell me
that isn't a well organized, well oiled, well financed left

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wing machine going on out there. Anyway, From the fifth
of January all the way through the twenty ninth of January,
it's listed as vacation. Oh that's right, I miss that. Yes,
he's getting sworn in on the sixth. That'll be tomorrow,
so he'll be there for that or a ribbon cutting ceremony.
One of the two will bring him in town. You

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got vacake. Vacation the rest of the time, and then
up on the thirtieth of January, make car payment. Thanks Joe.
Back in the stupid we go to Upper Darby, Pennsylvania,
where a woman allegedly ran over her boyfriend with her
car on the sidewalk. This after an argument in the

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Taco Bell parking lot. Why are you doing that, please? Said?
The Guy's lucky to be alive. He had serious injuries
as a consequence getting run over. Authority searching for twenty
three year old Destiny Green connections with the domestic violence
violence incident happened on New Year's Eve again started a
Taco Bell parking lot after an argument between Green and

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her boyfriend. Man reportedly stepped out the vehicle and started
walking down the street gourd. To the announcement from the police,
Green then drove that is what we're looking for court
to police announcement, Green then drove her vehicle onto the sidewalk,
traveling the wrong way, and struck the mail from behind.

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Victim suffered injuries and is lucky to be alive. That
is the full statement. Joe, is there a wrong way
on a sidewalk? I mean you can go either way
on a sidewalk. I mean're not supposed to have a
car on a sidewalk. That goes with that saying. Anyway,
let's not dwell on that. Police surge Green to turn
herself in. Ask anybody who knows where she is to
give them a call. Don't do that. Let's go to

(32:45):
the KFC, a Las Vegas KFC. I think that would
hold more true if it was a walmart anyway. A
man allegedly stabbed a Kentucky Fried Chicken employee after getting
upset over the gravy in his order. Thirty two year

(33:05):
old Jerald Carter and James Carter, forty eight, now facing
attempted murder with a deadly weapon this over gravy. Twenty
seventh of December Saturday, North Las Vegas police officers was
shut up at the KFC on Craig Road a reported
customer who stabbed an employee. Gerald Carter accused of stabbing
the employee in the back and side several times. Officers

(33:29):
located the two men. Several other people walking away from
the restaurant and detained him. While arresting Gerald Carter, officers
located a large knife in his pocket. Witness sa, Joe,
is that a knife in your pocket? He's having to
see me? Is that that Joe? Anyway? Jerald Carter, in
according to the witness, became upset about his gravy from KFC,

(33:52):
asked to speak with a manager. At some point, he
believed quote staff had disrespected him. Just walk away. Hate
that argument, which escalated him and James Craig going after
and going behind the KFC counter and fighting with the employees.

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While talking with police, Jerald Carter admitted of fighting with
the employee, but denied stabbing anyone. Jerald Carter said the
employee was calling him names and disrespecting him before the fight. No,
both men detained. I know North Las Vegas Jail. It's
a tuesday, according to Las Vegas Justice Court Judge Jonathan Cooper,
who set bail at one hundred thousand dollars for Gerald

(34:34):
Carter and ten grand for James Carter. Oh, it's okay, though.
Should they postpond, the men will be required to wear
an ankle monitor. We all know how well that works.
Don't we Joe huh yeah, asked formerly of Over the
Rhine and now no longer living in the area, Sarah
Herringer about that gravy, what is your expectation when it

(35:02):
comes to KFC gravy in the first instance? Five six
fifty five care de Talk Station Brian Thomas back for vacation.
Thank you for allowing me on vacation for a while.
Thanks to my family for such an enjoyable time off.
Seems like just yesterday, and of course the time went
went quite quickly. So maybe you got a new Year's resolution.

(35:22):
I haven't made one yet. Anyway, Do have listener lunch
on Wednesday? Yes, first one of the year mad Tree
sum at Park, Blue Ash location. It's gonna be a
lot of fun at least. I always enjoy the mad
Tree location there and I always enjoyed the company and fellowship.
We enjoy a listener lunch, So market down on your
calendar this Wednesday again, Blue Ash Slash Summit Park, mad
Tree is the place to be about eleven thirty issues

(35:44):
no specific set time so the doors need to be
opened though. Anyhow, coming up with the fifty five CARECCE mornings,
so let's move forward one hour with a special normally
on Tuesday at eight oh five retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel
Davis with a deep dive on Venezuela. Of course, that's
the biggest news item that's going on this over the
weekend and continues to be and will continue to dominate
the news as the devil being in the details. Who's

(36:08):
going to run the country, who's going to take over?
Is going to be a peaceful transition? Will it be
guerrilla war waged by the event as well an army
that's still around. God knows what's going to happen. Christopher
Smithman is going to chime in, probably on crime, but
I don't know. I never do know what Christopher Smithman
is all about. But we do the Smither Vent with
the former Vice mayor every Monday at seven twenty today,
no different from that starting off the calendar. You're right

(36:28):
from my perspective. And then at seven forty five full
seven o'clock hour, Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes, he
will offer his thoughts and comments on the violence that's
been going over the last couple of weeks during the
holiday break, no rest for the weary. Hear in the
Greater Cincinnati area. Finally, Brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre is
going to join the program of DATO of five in studio.
Outspoken commentary from Brother Dre. So, I hope you enjoy

(36:51):
hearing from him as much as I do always enjoy
hearing from you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty
five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three talk found
five fifty on at and T fund I mentioned the
pressent and for Manuel Noriega and anticipating what Nicholas Maduro
is going to be arguing in court. Now, I know
that Democrats are now going to be forcing a war
powers vote to prevent escalation in Venezuela without congressional approval. Listen,

(37:14):
if they want to exercise their right to do that,
they can. And yes, I'm aware that Senator Ran Paul
and Congressman Thomas Massey are critical of this actually having happened.
They've read their Constitution, and I know Thomas Massey and
also Judge ended of PAULA Tana, who I'm really looking
forward to talking to on Wednesday, because I have a
feeling he's with Paul and Massey on this being extra constitutional.

(37:34):
The president didn't have the authority to do this. Now,
pivoting over to Nicholas Creole, who is a professor law
professor Georgia College and State University. Now, he broke this
thing down, and I thought he did a pretty good
job of it, because this is what we're going to
be arguing about. Daring. In the January third edition Wall
Street Journal, Nicholas Creele Norriega, precedent for Maduro's capture and prosecution.

(37:58):
Critics calling President trump capture of Madua unprecedented and illegal
have short memories. He writes, We've done this before, and
the courts blessed it. And this is the part I'm
gonna be interested in talking about Politan and Politano, about
the courts do have blessed this? Let's walk through it.
Go back to nineteen eighty nine December, George H. W.
Bush ordered US troops into Panama to capture Manuel Noriega,

(38:21):
the de facto military dictator, on what federal drug trafficking
charges he'd been indicted, just like Maduro, Noriega had been
indicted by US grand jury. Like the Venezuelan Operation, Panama
invasion occurred without congressional authorization. Hmm. Donald Trump taken a

(38:41):
cue from George H. W. Bush, and that nothing happened
when George H. W. Bush did this, and like what
will now happen with mss Mdua, mister Maduro Noriega was
forcibly brought to the US and prosecuted in federal court.
Noriega convicted and imprisoned. The legal frame work established in
Noriega's case will directly govern mister Maduro's prosecution. Too bad

(39:05):
for him that the arguments we can expect his lawyers
to make have already been litigated and rejected by federal courts.
The factual parallels between the two cases are striking, he writes.
Operation Just Cause began December twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. US
forces struck multiple targets across Panama simultaneously looking to capture
Noriega and restored democratic governance. Does sound familiar, doesn't it?

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So Noriega went into hiding. The US found that he
had taken refuge in the Vatican diplomatic mission. You may
remember this. US troops surrounded him and just blasted Metallica
and all kinds of rock music, trying to wear him
down and prevent him from sleeping. So finally he did
surrender January third, nineteen ninety flown into Miami to face charges.
He was indicted in February of nineteen eighty eight on

(39:50):
charges of racketeering, drug trafficking, and money longering. There's your
criminal element. Specifically, he was alleged to have allowed Columbian
cartels to use Panama as a cocaine transit point and
facilitated the laundering of drug money. The indictment further contended
that he received millions in payoffs from the med Yen
cartel for his assistance with their cocaine smuggling operation. Noriega's

(40:13):
defense team made several legal challenges, which you can expect
in the upcoming Maduro trial. The courts shot them all down,
and what was arguably his strongest defense, at least in
the analysis of mister Creole, Noriega's lawyers argued that he
enjoyed head of state immunity. This would be your international

(40:36):
law people screaming about international law international law. Courts didn't
buy it. They concluded this immunity does not protect leaders
who are engaged in criminal enterprises, pointing out that the
immunity exists to facilitate diplomatic relations and protect official state functions,
but not to shield drug traffickers. Noriyega's rug trafficking was

(41:00):
seen as clearly private criminal conduct, not an official government act.
Now I understand the rationale behind that. This distinction between
official acts deserving community and criminal conduct deserving prosecution should
sound Familiar're gonna love this. The Supreme Court decision in

(41:22):
Trump versus US from twenty twenty four established that American
presidents and joy immunity for official acts but not for
private conduct. Noriego court applied the same principle to foreign
leaders decades ago. I thought that was a rather comical
tie in on that one. So Donald Trump can't deal
drugs and make some personal profit off of it. That

(41:43):
would be extra presidential, having nothing to do with international affairs.
He could be well tried and prosecuted for that. No,
no allegations, and Trump's been engaged in that activity yet
wait for it anyway. Noriego also argued his forcible military
of violated international law and the Panamanian government's sovereignty, thus

(42:04):
depriving courts of jurisdiction. That one also shot down in
the American courts. In rejecting that argument, the judges cited
an an eighteen eighty six case going way back cur
versus Illinois, in which the justices unanimously held that even
forcible abduction does not strip courts of jurisdiction over defendants

(42:24):
who are physically present in court. The judges refused to
examine whether the military operation violated international law, saying that
that is a non justiciable political question. Wow huh. Doriga
trying to claim that drug trafficking was in fact a

(42:46):
political offense that was intertwined with his governmental role, The
court shot that down, said that drug trafficking is universally
condemned criminal conduct, not political activity. The political offense exception
to extradition applies only to act committed to achieve political objectives,
not crimes committed for personal profit while holding political office,

(43:07):
which you know I wrote down China after that, if
China's making all the priestcursor ingredients for fentanyl, and it
is part of their strategy to undermine the United States
of America, that will be a political objective. Here, Let's
get the United States all whacked out on drugs that
will help us achieve our political objectives. Humph. So if
a jiji iping doesn't take profit or money, from the

(43:29):
sale of fentanyl precursors. Then I guess he's free from that.
Just contemplate that one, because you know that may be
phase two or four or nine down the road in
these in these actions by our government, I don't know anyway.
Noriegu's defense also argue the Posse Kamatatis Act generally prohibiting
using military forces for domestic law enforcement, barred the operation

(43:51):
that nabbed him. The court said, no, that act doesn't
apply to military operations in foreign countries, will only apply here.
His defenses failing and failed. Noriega ultimately convicted on eight
counts of drug trafficking, racketeering, money laundering, sentence of forty
years in prison, ended up serving seventeen and then got
extradited to France. He he points out, like Noriega, Maduro

(44:15):
faces federal drug trafficking charges again, that's the lynchpin for
all this. Yes, we've done it before. He's committing crimes
in office that are unrelated to political action. That is
a justification to arrest him. That it will result in
regime change, the disruption of Russia and China's influence perhaps

(44:35):
in South America, that it may result in American oil
companies taking back what was stolen from them from the regime.
Those are all secondary. They could have been the primary motivations.
But because you've got this indictment against the guy, and
because we've done this before and he was in fact
committing crimes in office for his own personal benefit, all
the other things sort of step in place behind that. Oh,

(44:57):
goodie will also get regime change. He will also interrupt
the relationship between China and Manuel and Nicholas Maduro and
Russia's influence over there, and Iran as well. Those all
may have been the primary motivations to do it, but

(45:18):
they are secondary to the legal reality that apparently we have,
that we can go out and arrest a drug dealer
who happens to be the head of a nation anyway,
like Noriega. Maduro facing federal drug trafficking charges. Like Noriega,
he was captured through military operations conducted without congressional authorization.

(45:38):
Like Noriego. He'll surely argue he had a state immunity
an unlawful seizure. But unless courts are willing to upmend
clear president, none of these defenses will save him. That's
what I'm looking forward to hearing what Napolitano says. Maduro's
prosecution therefore legally unassailable, at least according to mister Creole,
law Professor, Georgia College, because it because it uh not

(46:01):
because it breaks new ground, but because it so closely
follows a thirty six year old template for the federal courts,
which have already validated this. Critics may object on policy grounds,
but the underlying legal framework for mister Mduro's criminal prosecution
is well settled. The Noriega president controls, and under that precedent,
mister Maduro will stand trial. So there is the well

(46:23):
addressing the arguments against Massey and Senator rand Paul. And
I'm guessing, and I don't think I'm going on on
a limb on this what Judge of Poloton Is probably
said to Tom and al. You guys are up next,
Hold on for a second, if you're right back. I
want to mention plumb type plumbing, which is always plumbing
done right. My favorite by Garcie Decalk Station Monday, try
to have a happy one five, one, three, seven, two

(46:44):
to three talks of post. We'll start with Tom. He's
got a comment about vetters. Well, Tom, thanks for calling
this morning, and Happy Monday to you, sir.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Happy Monday to you.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
I'm glad you got over that flew.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
I couldn't take any more pass rerun shows.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Thanks Tom, Man. It sucked. I am telling you, man.
It was bad all the way through our family and everybody.
Every time, every time I talk to somebody over the
Christmas break, everybody was struggling with it. So it's a
real it's a real problem out there. Lots of articles
about that flu going around as well, and they got
they keep telling people to get the flu vaccine. They
got the wrong one this year. I just want to
let me know that they picked the wrong one. So

(47:20):
good luck with that. I'm sorry, Tom, you got to
talk about that.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
So what happens if Noriega he gets at a luxury
jail cell that Jeffrey Epstein has and he doesn't walk
out of there again, that's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Well yeah, Maduro, Yeah, I mean, I know what you met,
but you know, that's certainly a possibility. I'd like to
think that won't happen. Considering the entire world is paying
very close attention. Some people are very supportive of what
we did, some people are against it, and you know,
but the focus of the world is directly on his

(48:00):
detention in America's prison. So I'd like to think that
the level of scrutiny that they're paying attention to in
his prison cell is a lot higher than Epstein's just saying.
Although although my pattern observer friend Maureen, you know, I
was gonna bring you up send me emails this morning
to let me know that the shoe is gonna drop.

(48:21):
Bombshell confirmed Venezuela and bombshell intel drop. Narco General Hugo
Carva Hall confesses CIA knew about election fraud US senators
funded by Narco regime. Well, I told her I keep
my popcorn out on that one. But she apparently is
circulating a list of all these US senators who apparently

(48:41):
received money directly from Yeah, I guess Maduro, the funding
has run out to the extent that it's true. Let's
see what Cleveland Al's got. Cleveland, Al, Welcome back and
Happy New Year to you, sir.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Happy New Year to you.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I just.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
After you mentioned New Year's or resolutions that I bring
up a couple of points. First of all, after turning
sixty nine earlier in the month, I decided, you know,
what for this year, I'm going to give up all
of my bad habits. But in the end I remembered
what my father always told me that nobody likes a quitter.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
So might I interject Cleveland, But bad is subjective, right,
Just don't label whatever you say is a bad habit,
does it?

Speaker 4 (49:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I really enjoy that it's not a bad habit, and
it's no longer something that needs to be eliminated from
your list of things this year, just saying.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
Yes true. And then secondly, you know, political promises are
an awful lot. Like New Year or resolutions, they're in
one year out the other. I will leave it at
that and hope you have a wonderful day and welcome back.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Thank you, al I truly appreciate it. Yes, I did
enjoy the time off, but hit the ground running this morning.
I have went five on three seven four fifty five
hundred eighty two three talk found five fifty on AT
and T phone. You know it doesn't get rid of
the stench of politics. I've mentioned that a million times
before in jest. But older egg happy one till five
on three, seven fifty five hundred two to three talk
to f fifty on at and t phone before get

(50:21):
some local stories. Oh look who's on the line, My
pattern observer friend Maureen. I the foind that I mentioned
your name, Maureene, you might give me a call this morning.
Welcome back and a happy new year to you.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Happy new year, Brian. You know I I sound like yeah,
I love you too, and I appreciate the time you
give me to sure to tell about my patterns. I've
been served, but I do. I know I sound like
a broken record, but I'm going to say it again anyway,
Like when I called in after they were taking out
the narco trafficking voats. Yeah, I said. This is also

(50:53):
about bringing to light the role that Venezuela played in
the election interference in multiple countries, seventy two countries to
be exact. And I know Lou Dobbs brought it out
in two thousand and six. He talked about smartmatic machines
and the dominion machines and how it's all going to
tie to Venezuela, which was used as a proxy for
other countries like China and Cuba and Columbia, different things

(51:17):
like that. But that'll all come out, and I don't
think anything's going to happen to Madua like supposedly Epstein,
because he's going to be the star witness in his
own trial to bring out all the information about these
voting machines.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
So he'll implicate, he will, he will be willing to
implicate and admit to the reality of what you're suggesting.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, he doesn't have a choice. Yeah, he will bring
it all out. And President Trump has noticed if you
notice his truth on social posts, ever since they take
the extradition of Maduro, he has posted NonStop about the
election fraud. It's going to come out. He's Maduro is
going to be the star witness and bringing that out.
And the second person that's going to be the star
witness is Tina Peters. I mentioned her, I think a

(52:00):
couple weeks ago when I called in. People need to
look into her. She's the seventy year old woman, gold
Star Mom. She's been in prison for a year and
a half because of what she tried to bring out
in the Californa or the Colorado mess. Colorado, she was
the county clerk and she noticed as a discrepancy on
the machine, so she had pictures that I told you

(52:21):
all about that when I called before she's going to
be Trump pardoned her, but Pelosi and Colorado won't let
her go. So there's going to be a real stand
us there, and people need to pay attention to her
name because that's going to bring out some really big
and interesting things.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Okay, in so far as the allegation swirling around these
voting machines and the interference of American elections, I am
I didn't read the entire criminal indictment, but Madua has
been indicted for drug trafficking. That's the crime that he
was engaged in. So how is it that you would
parlay a criminal trial into an investigation or parlay that

(52:58):
into some way getting him to admit that there's maybe
election interference in connection with dominion voting machines. How does
dominion tie into drug dealing?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
It's all tied together. It's allfol well just saying it.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
But obviouly I'm looking at it from a lawyer's perspective.
How does evidence get introduced in a drug trial? Boiling
it down to the simplistic terms, to a whole conversation, investigation, prosecution,
maybe in connection with voting irregularities or dominion voting machines
being tampered with, are capable of being engineered to rig
the outcome of elections.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
The money, it's all about the money and the cartel money,
the drug money. It funds all of this voter fraud,
and it's all tied together through the money. And the
most what's more valuable in counterfeit money is a counterfeit ballot.
That's a counterfeit ballot because then you can put whoever,
whatever rogue cartel leader you can put in and install.

(53:55):
You can do that through a fake ballot. So that's
why it's more, you know, it's more valuable. And fake
money and counterfeit money is a counterfeit balant, and that's
why all this is so tied together. But the drug
money is used to buy off people in countries, Senators, congressmen, whatever.
FUN terroristskin to get into that list. Yeah do I I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Sorry, I said, And FUN fund terrorism and terrorists resolutely.
Well that's the big See, that's a really interesting thing
I find about this whole the ripple effect on all this.
You think about Israel and the United States war action
against Iran, we blow up the nuclear facilities, et cetera.
They're kind of on the back of their heels. They
have been a sanctioned to the point where their economy
is literally collapsing around them inflations through the roof, people

(54:41):
are rioting in the streets. The money going into terrorists
like Hamas and Abala has been dried up from Iran effectively.
I know Venezuela is also got its massive economic problems
given the sanctions on their oil cracked down by Donald Trump.
Their flow of cash is eliminated. Not quite sure how
Russia and going to react to all this, but clearly

(55:02):
this also is a mechanism to get some stability in
South America and prevent it from further influence by China
and Russia, which they were really working hard to get
more influence in South America. So lots of additional things
can come from this. So I agree with you, probably
just the tip of the iceberg. But I'm going to
be patiently waiting with my popcorn out to see if

(55:23):
you can parley this criminal prosecution into something that's revealing
about the other elements you refer to this morning. I'm
not denying it. I'm just saying I'm waiting to see
how it all works and how it all gets brought.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Out it will, and then Venezuela is going to come
out great on the other side of this.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
All right, Well, I'm not going to bet great worry.
We're not placing a bet on this one. I'm just
going to let this go and well, I hope you're right.
I hope this all does come out, and I hope
we all get I get to say, with a big
grin on my face, Marien was right, that's what I
want out of this. But I'm not prepared to say
it yet because I haven't seen the You know me,

(56:01):
I'm a lawyer. I just gotta go with what I know.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
I know.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I'll give you time. I'll give you time a few
years last time. I know.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I can't thank you enough for your your patients and
you're You're always keeping me on the cutting edge of
your pattern observations. I truly appreciate our friendship. Maureene, love you.
I have a happy New Year. Six thirty six. Looks
like Keith net Keik's got a comment about Venezuela. I
can't wait to talk to you, Keith in a very
happy New Year to all. Reminder Wednesday Listener lunch first

(56:29):
one of the year, not a whole lot of time
to point it out for folks. But we have Mad
Tree Brewery, Summit Park, Slash Blue Ash. It's a good place.
We've been there before and I always look forward to that.
So Wednesday, the start of twenty twenty six, listener lunch
over to the phones. I got Keith on the line. Keith,
thanks so much for calling this morning. Welcome to the
Morning Show.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
Hi, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I'm okay. You know, you ever notice when you get
done with vacation, you feel like you need a vacation
from your vacation. Yeah, yeah, there you are, that's me.

Speaker 9 (56:58):
I look, these democrats are hollering and screamer about what
Trump did with Padua. Thank god, these goofballs were in
power hundreds of years ago when Jefferson orchestrated the Fabus
frigate fleet to attack the Barbary pirates. Heck, these nuts
would impeached Jefferson over that. I'd be directed crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah, well, I you say the word impeachment, but is
that really what's going to happen? I mean, I was
looking at Chucky Schumer's comments about this. They're going to
see if they can do a war powers resolution or
at least you know, bring something up in Congress to
sort of restrain Donald Trump and his military action in Venezuela.
You know, if he's going to do regime change or
whatever you want to call it, then he's going to
need some sort of congressional approval, and he has every

(57:41):
right to move that forward. They also had they had
one of these in November on a similar war powers
resolution because the Trump administration had been planning ground strikes
in Venezuela. He made it. He projected this for months
and months. I mean, hell, the entire fleet was down
there surrounding it. We of course did the military blockade
of the sanctioned vessels. It was in evident, Well, this
is going to happen. He even gave me Duro a

(58:01):
chance to step down. He didn't do it. So what's next.
We got to go in and grab Ma Dua and
put him under arrest for drug trafficking. But what happens?
What if Congress does not like they did last time.
That vote in November failed forty nine to fifty one.
So even if they do vote a war power resolution,
that might provide some restraints on Donald Trump. But if

(58:22):
they don't, what's the next step. I mean That's where
I find myself in a sort of a constitutional struggle.
Congress has the power to declare war. Now, the War
Powers Act may be unconstitutional, though it's never been tested before.
At least that's something else that you can do, which
seems to be lesser than a declaration of war. But

(58:42):
it gives the president a certain amount of leeway to
engage in military activities. So if they pass one, then
he'll be subject to certain parameters, I presume, pursuing to
the War Powers Act. But if they don't pass anything,
what's the next step. Are they going to try to
impeach him? I mean is and do they have the
votes to do that? I think the answer is a
resounding no. They might move forward to try to impeach

(59:05):
them because they claim he violated the Constitution. But again,
you've got this precedent going after Manuel Noriega. Bush wasn't
impeached for doing that. He didn't have a war powers
authorization to go in and grab Nicholas mad or to
grab uh Manuel Noriega. So is there is this an

(59:26):
impeachable offense? If Congress refuses to act to limit Donald Trump?
It's complicated, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Well, yeah, I mean he had the legal right to do.

Speaker 9 (59:40):
This because of declaring Manuro doctrine. I mean, don't they
realize that years ago that stuff was uh what to
call it by Congress? You know they Yeah, okay, Monroe doctrine.
I mean, he had a legal right to do all
this because of the Monroe doctrine without a dectorally war.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I mean, I'm not quite sure that that's the case either, Monroe,
doctor President Monroe.

Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
Yeah, and you know, look at what all we did
in Cuba during the Spanish American War, you know, I mean,
and unders of the Dreau doctrines. I mean, we had
no other choice. Trump had no other choice. He had
to do something about this nut.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Well, I'm not clear enough of my history with the
Spanish American War to know whether or not that was authorized.
I kind of get the sense that it was at
least authorized, And I do believe there was a tax
that we played on our phone bills to finance that
particular war. Don't get don't quote me on history on that. Again,
I'm a bit fuzzy on it. But yeah, yeah, I
know you but let us I mean, let me just
look at from World War two forward. How many military

(01:00:49):
conflicts We've been in? Lots of them, right, lots, and
we drone strike individuals. We've blown up American citizens abroad,
We've blown up dictators, We've fired missiles and various countries
and killed people. Bill Clinton blew up an aspirin factory.
Remember to take attention away from his Monica Lewinsky troubles.
We could go on and on and on factory. At

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what point does does something somebody stand up and say no, no,
we're putting our foot down, or will we continue down
this road? And I believe it is expedient to allow
president a lot of leeway on this. But when you're
dealing with war and you're putting American lives at risk,
and you're putting American military hardware at risk, and we
have a limited amount of American hardware left, I mean,
it's very very complicated. How much Let's just ask out loud,

(01:01:34):
sort of rhetorically, qua asking how much authority does a
president have without congressional approval unlimited? I don't know. We
seem to be in a very gray area right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Keith.

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
That's I agree, and you know what you might take.
I'm crazy, but I hope we take out Columbia and
Cuba too after this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Well, they may be moving away from Columbia. Cuba may
very well fall on its own because they are starving,
they are currency lists, they are They're just basically a
failed nation state. So you can just watch that one
perhaps implode upon itself. I don't know, but yeah, Donald
Trump is making broader threats in the region generally speaking.

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See what I did to Maduro. You may be very
well next. So let's step up and play nicely together,
or we're going to be sending in the troops for you.
That is certainly a message. Donald Trump has not pulled
any punches on projecting. Can he do it? That's the
big question that's swirling around. Keith. I appreciate it, man,
I really do. And I wish I knew my history
a little bit better. Take this kind of questions on

(01:02:37):
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(01:02:57):
the our news in an early one from Daniel Davis,
of course on Venezuela Smith a minute seven to twenty,
we'll hear from police Chief Scott Hughes from Hamilton Township
on his opinion about all the violence been going over
the past couple of weeks and brother dre andre Ewingen
studio at eighth five violence. I'm certain we'll be at
the top of his list of things to talk about. Anyway,
real quick here local story didn't get to but since

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a police secret service agents responded to since Andy home
of Yeah Vice President jd Vance. Story broke this morning
right after the mic came on. Thank you to Fletcher
keel Over at Channel five for reporting. Anyways, we've got
some local reporting. Looks like there's damage to the windows
of one of his homes. Peers as someone like maybe
have thrown rocks or something. Officers are on the scene

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at his East Wannut Hills house for several hours, going
in and out. Please say a police could there could
say only that they do have a suspect. But as
of the reporting not clear if the person is in
custody what they're charged with, and Secret Service agents say
the statement will be laid made later today, sometime this morning,

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so we had a little more details on that. He
wasn't even at home. He was in Cincinnati over the
last week, but he left yesterday afternoon, so I'm not
quite sure what was trying to be accomplished by that.
It's just so damned childish, so damned childish. Anyway, real
quick here, going back to the Democrats trying to force
a war powers vote to prevent escalation in Venezuela, of course,

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led by Chucky Schumer. He's saying he's hoping that more
Republicans will vote to reclaim congressional power to declare war,
which I think is a funny kind of statement. Reclaimed.
This is that gray area we find ourselves in in
the period of time after World War Two, where prior
to that we used to make war declarations and since
then we've just kind of played fast and loose with it.

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But the vote previously when they tried to rain in
Trump at least in so far as get ahead of
his efforts in Venezuela again failed forty nine to fifty one.
In the Senate, Senator Ran Paul Kentucky and Lisa Murkowski
joined with Democrats to tried to, you know, put in
place something like that, but it didn't work. So the

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strikes are launched. We captured Nicholas Munder and his wife.
And if they don't pass something, and can you I mean,
I appreciate what weird political times we live in, but
do you think that the Republicans are going to oppose
Trump on this? And so I'm gonna guess know so
that the same vote will come out along the same
lines that there won't be some you know, war powers resolution,

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some limitation placed on whatever further activity is going to
be involved in Venezuela. And there will be a lot involved.
I mean, Donald Trump even said it out loud that
we the United States will in his word, run Venezuela
until there can be a proper transition in a new government.
That is going to require boots on the ground. And
he said, yeah, listen, we're not afraid of boots on
the ground. We don't mind saying it. We're going to

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make sure that this country is run properly. We're not
doing this in vain. You can say the motives are
all pure and good and all of that. We don't
want Venezuela to go into to a state of complete disarray.
We liked them to get their act back together and
make the happy, the citizens happy again like they used
to be before the socialists took over. So I suppose

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if Congress was unified, they could pass war Plowers resolution.
I don't think that will happen. There is the power
of the purse. Since they do control the purse strings,
they could I suppose limit the military, limit the funding
of the American military, and prohibit them from spending any
money on operations in Venezuela. That will require similar Congressional approval,

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and to the extent they passed legislation along those lines,
I think ultimately that might land on the President's desk
to be signed into law. Doubt that's going to happen,
and I doubt there's enough votes to override a presidential veto.
So that's not going anywhere, which leaves us where right,
That's my outloud question. Generally speaking, I'm puzzled as to

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where that leaves us. And you know, I was. I
saw an article going over to New York City Zoran Mondami.
He and just a theoretical exercise here, He's called Benjamin
Nett Yahoo a war criminal guilty of the crime of genocide. Now,

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if there was an indictment that have held that, then
if Zoron Mondami was president of the United States of America,
does that mean he could go in and capture Benjamin
net Yahoo and to bring him a trial here in
the United States. I think that's exactly what that means.
So depending on who's sitting in office and how much
you demonize any one individual another, and I don't think
anybody really supplied how can you really defend Maduro He

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stole the election. Everybody knows it that the un has said,
so everyone is in uniform agreement to the guy's corrupt.
He's also a massive drug dealer and a facilitator of crime,
and the emptier of prisons in Venezuela who sent them
here to disrupt America's way alife? On and on and on.
The guy is without question a miserable piece of excrement
as a human being. Difference of opinion depending on which

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world lady you're focusing on. President Zoron Mondami. If that
day ever came and bring the flag out last person standing.
He is of the mind than at Yahoo and basically
Israel itself are worthy of I suppose some sort of
prosecution since he's labeled them responsible for genocide. This is

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what worries me. Not necessarily right now, but what does
the future have in store for a president who's not
subject to any particular limitations with regard to the waging
of war. Point to Barack Obama, he blew people up
remote control. I wasn't happy about that when that happened either.
It's just the world moves so fast and Congress obviously

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is not in a position to react. How more than
half of them are struggling with trumped arrangement syndrome. Six
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when I came in this morning to see on the rundown,
a special edition of a segment we do every Tuesday
at eight thirty The Daniel Davis Deep Dive retired Lieutendan
Colonel Daniel Davis offering his beautiful, insight and thoughtful analysis
of matters involving war and of course, matters involving grabbing
Maduro and taking him to be tried in federal court

(01:09:34):
in New York City. Welcome back, Daniel Davis Deep dive time.
It's good to see my friend. Happy New Year. Let's
start with that.

Speaker 10 (01:09:40):
Well, and thanks, thanks. I mean, we took a couple
of weeks off in the Holy Cow, a country was invaded,
in a president's rike.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
We better not take off anymore. Too many things are happening.
I know, I couldn't agree with you more, sir. And
you know, part of me was really really happy that
all this hit the fan over the weekend, because after
ten days off, my brain ate really fire, not all
cylinders coming back from vacation, sir. So this really kind
of took the weight off, at least in terms of
coming up with a well, very interesting topic. And this

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was beyond interesting. Let me first remark as I opened
the show up this morning, putting aside all of the
you know, political implications, the legal implications and what this
might mean for us and how long we're going to
be involved in other things, we can talk about you
got to give the American military huge props for what
I mean, that was an unbelievable mission. I mean boom

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boom in out, obviously well oiled, well planned, and clearly
we had some insight help within the Maduro regime. Yeah,
that's exactly what it's going to say this.

Speaker 10 (01:10:41):
There's really two separate tracks to examine here, and both
deserve their own focus. And the first one is on
the military execution of this, and it was about as
flawless of a large scale operation as I have literally
ever seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
I mean, there's I think that there was when the
the leader of Italy.

Speaker 10 (01:11:02):
Was captured by the Nazis actually s he was captured
in World War two, and they got him out of there,
you know, an amazing snatch and grab back in World
War Two. That's about the only thing I can think
of that reaches this level of precision. And you're right,
there's by all accounts, there was a double agent that
we had, involved probably multiple, probably not just one, but

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definitely around the inner circle of the president. We had that,
But even without that, the operation to go in with
f thirty fives to take out a lot of their
command of control systems, the communications systems, definitely the air
defense systems. They didn't have great stuff, but they had
usable stuff, and the F thirty fives were apparently very
significant in taking those down. And then of course there's

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just all of the rehearsals that went in. I mean
you're talking everything from the strategic, operational, and tactical level,
all the rehearsals that were done. There was apparently a
complete compound built from scratch at a rehearsal SIOTE at
some unknown location to where these snatching grabs were rehearsed,
so it was like they had been doing it one
hundred times. So the opportunity to execute this with literally

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no friendly loss of life and no loss of aircraft
and a complete total success.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Of the mission by itself is just amazing. Now it's
the going forward component, which is the most complicating element
about all this. Donald Trump said, we basically are going
to run the country for some period of time until
I guess an election can take place till there's some
stability there. Devil's always in the details. But as you
and I have talked about before, and I hate to
pivot over to Russia and Ukraine, you know what happens

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after Russia takes over whatever chunk they take over, there
are still loyal sympathizers to the Ukraine government, the idea
of sovereignty, and the idea that Russia is evil for
having invaded it. Those people represent a legitimate threat in
terms of you know, I think about Castro waging a
guerrilla war from the mountains. Maduro did have an army.
I'm not quite sure where they were. I understand he

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was being protected by Cuban forces, which I thought was
rather interesting. But they haven't disappeared as an entity. Are
they still loyal to his regime? Are they willing to
be talked out of that loyalty? I know most of
them are corrupt. I mean, aren't these military people and
their hardware. Do they not represent a going forward threat
to the United States regarding whatever involvement we're going to

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have there, because it seems pretty likely we're going to
have some boots on the ground there to maintain stability.

Speaker 10 (01:13:30):
Well, let's hope not, because that could go south in
a big proby a big fast and all this great
stuff that we just talked about could be completely lost
if we go down the path of putting troops there
and trying to compel and force our way into this
because that's where things start getting much more complicated. And yes,
that's what I've been telling everybody. This operation to snatch

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and grab was profoundly successful, but it didn't take out
the regime. And all these people who've been celebrating, Yay,
Maduro's gone and we're free, and all this keeps saying
that's premature. Nothing has changed. The system itself is fully
in place, and we're talking about the system that was
under Chavez and then translated into transitioned into Maduro. All

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those people that have, many of them, like the vice president,
has spent literally decades of support to the to the
top level. Now she's in charge. By now, I guess
acting President Rodriguez, the question is going to be, what
are you going to do if they don't just say yes,
we'll do what you say, Because apparently Marco Rubio talked
to Rodriguez. Trump claims that she says she's gonna work

(01:14:32):
with this, but when she made a public statement, wasn't
quite that cooperative. And how could she be if she's cooperating,
I mean, her own life could be at risk inside
of her country, So there are some big time difficulties
remaining in front of us.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
And no question about it. And you know that's that's
the part that's got me mostly worried. Now. The lynchpin
for all this. Some people are saying, no, Donald Trump
just won a regime change. Donald Trump just won to
Venezuela and oil. Those really were secondary the lynch pin
upon which whatever Donald Trump really really wanted out of
this or whatever you know, our State Department or whoever

(01:15:05):
CIA wants out of this can be accomplished. But the
lynchpin was that he had committed crimes. He was a
drug dealer, He had committed these illegal acts as a
head of a state. And that goes back to what
we went through with Manuel Noriega, very comparable operation. He
went through the entire legal process, made all the legality

(01:15:26):
arguments president can't do this, he doesn't have the constitutional authority,
it violates international law, and the courts shot down all
of that. So if you didn't have this criminal indictment
hanging over his head, then you wouldn't have been able
to go in and grab him and bring him to
New York City, right because he's the president of a
sovereign nation.

Speaker 10 (01:15:46):
Look I mean, we got to be honest. You know
that the law doesn't even matter in this point. We'll
say whatever we want. But there's I mean, you can't
say because our country had an indictment on it, that
we are justified to go get him, because then you
literally open that Pandora's box. In every country on the
planet that has power can do the same thing to
their adversarias here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
We have set that precedent.

Speaker 10 (01:16:07):
So to me, this is black and white. We wanted
a regime change. We wanted political control of the country
and physical control of the oil. And that's what's being
set up right now, at least that's what's being set
up as an exception or a desire. But as President
Trump said on I think it was an air force
one last night. He said, yeah, if they don't cooperate,

(01:16:28):
if they don't do what we tell them to do,
then we may go in there more. But I'm just
telling you, Brian, if we want to brag on how
good this snatch and grab was, if we have to
go in there and force anything on the ground, it's
going to get bloody big fast. And I'm just telling
you we don't have the force structure anywhere near sufficient
to actually compel the country to do anything that we want.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
This is a really bad situation, quite frankly. Well, and
insofar as the Senators discussing a warpower's vote on this,
they tried this last November to got shot down and
that was it forty vote. If they can't pass a
war powers resolution to say limit the authority or otherwise
control what we can and cannot do in Venezuela, where

(01:17:11):
does that leave us? I mean, the president's are basically
free to do whatever he wants. I mean, I've been
struggling with this sort of ever since I read about this,
of what comes next and what if Congress doesn't do anything?

Speaker 10 (01:17:25):
Yeah, that you've had Seal And Lindsey Graham is the
biggest cheerleader of this. He's been saying and I actually
found something from twenty twenty last night where he just
holds that the nineteen seventy three War Powers Act is
not constitutional in his personal right opinion. That doesn't matter
what his opinion is. It matters what the rule of
law is, and the nineteen seventy three War Powers is
an actual law. The problem is, and he is right

(01:17:48):
in this regard presidents across the board have been ignoring
this for many, many, many years and many administrations. Problem
is with that is that you set a standard that
the law doesn't care. And so to answer your direct question, yes,
we are in a place where the law doesn't restrain
the president and he is totally free to do what
he wants because he has the law, he has the

(01:18:11):
Justice Department, he has the Secretary of Defense or Secretary
of War. The courts are not going to intervene, it
doesn't appear. And because he has the house in the
Senate right now, there won't be an impeachment. No one
will compel anything, and certainly the Senate. So that means, yes,
he is free to do whatever he wants with no constraints.
And I'm just telling you that it's bad for America.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Well does that mean Supreme Leader Ali Kameni over and
in Iran it feels like his life maybe in jeopardy
as well.

Speaker 10 (01:18:40):
Why wouldn't he I mean, there's a lot of people
have to be concerned with that, and already our work
with the Israelis, they had already threatened that in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
They have done it with.

Speaker 10 (01:18:49):
Hezbollah, with his leaders, many other leaders in other medium
sized leaders in i Raan have been assassinated. So we
just kind of opened up. Really, the Israelis have opened
up this Pandora's box, although you can I'll obviously say
that Trump did that in twenty twenty when he took
out Solomony with an assassination, attempt or execution. And this is,
you know, the law of the jungle man. I mean,

(01:19:09):
it's it's a lot of people are cheering today because
it's an objective that the US wanted, But I don't
see how this benefits our country. And I see how
it could be a really dark place to where the
rule of law gets shredd even further.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
And that's problem for all of us. Yeah, I just said,
it depends on whose ox is being gord because Zorhan
Mandami has declared Benjaminettannia, who a war criminal responsible for genocide.
If there were presidents Zorhan Mandami, he could go and
do the same thing we did in Maduro, right because
he's been labeled a war criminal, right right.

Speaker 10 (01:19:39):
And that's that's one of the things that I have
been saying, is that you know, we want to defend
President Trump's justification to go after because we declared him
the Maduro a criminal and then died him at court,
and that Yahoo is indicted in many countries as a
suspected war criminal, et cetera. And do you want to
say that any of those countries, if they have the power,

(01:20:01):
that they can go and try and do a snatch
and grab on net Yahoo. I mean, some people may say, well, yeah,
let them try, because you know Israel is not Venezuela,
and they would not go. Well, almost certainly that's correct.
But the president has been set and you know you
can't just you know, say all right, this one's fine
for us because we lock it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
That one's not fine.

Speaker 10 (01:20:20):
That's different because well we lock him. But the problem
is that that's only as you just said, and the
eye of the beholder whose ox is gored, this is
just it's just not good for us.

Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
I'm just sorry. I'm just telling you, no, I feel
along the same way. I'm always looking down the road
at the next guy at the helm. And how this
would implate would have implications for every presidential administration from hereafter. Uh,
Daniel Davis gotta have you around to bounce these ideas
off of. And I appreciate you coming to the program
another twenty twenty six with the Daniel Davis Steve Dive

(01:20:51):
here on the fifty five KRC Morning Shore right love it.
Look forward to it, amen, brother, as do I. We'll
talk about the China Russia implications on this military action
maybe next time we talk, because that's that's another couple
of wrinkles in the Yes, it is big. It is
big thought to talk about there. Retire the Uenny Hurl
Daniel Davis find his podcast Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You'll
enjoy that. I'll look forward to having you back on

(01:21:12):
again real soon and Happy New Year, Sir. Seven seventeen.
Right now, Christopher Smithman waiting in the winnings for the
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Talk station seven twenty one on a Monday, New Year,
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(01:21:34):
the former Vice mayor of the city since say Christopher
Smithment on every Monday at this time the event his
spleen the smith Event. Happy New Year, Christopher Smithman, Welcome
back to the morning show.

Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
Happy New Year, Brian Thomas, and I hope you had
a RESTful I've been listening to your show, so I
know you had the flu. I know you've been going
through some things. But I'm glad to have you back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
It's good to hear your I appreciate that very much. Yeah,
we really wiped our whole house out. Everybody had it
and my mom was particularly hard hit and we're all
praying for her, and it took her a couple of while,
a couple of weeks to come out the other side.
Really really really wiped out. So anybody out there is
dealing with that flu issue, hang in there, lots of
fluids and try to get as much rest as possible,

(01:22:19):
and if you can get some Tama flu really early on.
I was lucky enough to get a prescription for that,
and I was able to dodge that bullet just after
a couple of days. So anyhow might experts.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Shout out to your mom and your bride and your
kids and you that you guys made it through. But
you know, as you know, the fluke is deadly. It
can be deadly, so it's nothing to play with. So
I'm glad your mom.

Speaker 6 (01:22:41):
Made it through.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Thanks man. I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
Brother. Look, you're a girl dad. I'm a girl dad.
There are a lot of girl dads out there. And
you know, I'm scrolling through in my news and I
see it. An eleven year old girl shot on the
playground in the way. She didn't have a chance, man,
she didn't have a chance. Here's a girl doing everything

(01:23:08):
she's supposed to do. She's playing, she's on a playground,
she's out of school, she's handling her business. My understanding
is she's not in a school in our area. The
bottom line here is this shouldn't have happened. And there's
so many levels to this. Being a girl dad meaning

(01:23:32):
my daughter Camille, who goes to seat in high school.
She's everything to me.

Speaker 8 (01:23:37):
She is the world.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
There's just something about a connection between a father and
a daughter. My heart goes out to her father and
her mother. My heart goes out to this family. But
for a man, this sense of provider and protect her,
I didn't protect my daughter. Ecologically, what that does to you.

(01:24:02):
I can't get my arms around it this morning. So
there's the human part of this, the humanity part of this,
where you have a girl who's on a playground, in Cincinnati,
who's murdered right down by the FC Stadium. Now, what's
so crazy about this is that the West End community

(01:24:23):
has been clamoring for video, for cameras, for lights because
they had another child killed there in the last year.
So the reality of it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Is Dominus Davis was killed a couple of years ago.
They've been promising cameras for that long.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
So two years ago he was killed, and they've been saying,
here's city Hall, We're gonna bring you cameras. We're gonna
bring you lights, new lights, new cameras, and check this out. Dude,
there was an election. There was an election in November. No,
we're gonna deal with it. We're gonna roll up our
sleeves and deal with it. Because the West End or

(01:25:00):
should have known that Corey Bowman is right there, his
church is there, his coffee shop is there, He's vested
in the West End. They voted for this administration, this mayor,
this council knowingly or should have known that they were
not providing those cameras and lights.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Yeah, for this community, a promise that was made and
nonetheless in the in the West End, which is where
this happened. After have Pervoll in the current administration, eighty
five to one hundred percent of the vote went their direction,
eighty five to one. I'm looking at the chart Joe
printed out. Thank you to the Inquirer and Scott Ortman
for creating it so we know exactly what neighborhoods voted

(01:25:39):
and in what percentage, in spite of the fact there
was a lot of crime going on in the West End,
in spite of the fact there were promised video cameras
that never showed up, the lights that never showed up,
eighty five to one hundred percent Pervoll and the current makeup.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
So why is this relevant to your listening audience, Because
we if the cameras were there, we'd have video of
a car of a person, we would know, we'd have
an idea who shot her. We'd be chasing this person down.
But right now we don't have the information that we

(01:26:12):
should have had. If council and this mayor and this
administration we're talking to Didney manager and all of them,
they all have blood on their hands now, Listen. They
might not have been able to stop the shooter, but
in leadership, it's what you do. So two years ago,
as you've educated me. I thought it was a year ago.

(01:26:33):
Time goes by so fat. We had a young person
murdered there. The community asked for something, they didn't get it.
We had an election. Now another girl is murdered there
still no cameras, no lights, no press conferences. Community. This
is what bothers me. And when we get back from

(01:26:53):
the break, I'm gonna stay on this because I have
a part beat to it, Brian that really gets under
my cross. I'm gonna connect some dots this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
I'm sure you are, and it wouldn't surprise the Part
C and D on top of Part B will continue
with Christopher Smith of inventing his spleen as well he
should seven twenty seventh Station seven thirty one here at
fifty five kersee the talk station Smith event on to
part B of a multiparty breakdown of crime going on

(01:27:23):
in the greater Cincinnati area, most notably the West End.
You know, there was apparently a fourteen year old that
was shot over the summer last year, same area, and
prior to that, the eleven year old Dominic Davis killed
more than two years ago. And then of course we
had this poor eleven year old girl innocent as the
day is long killed by a drive by shooting. I mean,
there is no explaining this. And I understand your point

(01:27:45):
of view from a father of a daughter, and I
get that man, but it's got to be so damn
frustrating that this person was so innocent, clean hands, and
yet her life was taken from her. You had more
to talk about, Christopher, you got the floor.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
The politics for me is you have so many African
Americans on council. Stay with me. I'm gonna go into
the pot of identity politics. Okay, they have a mural
in the front Black Lives Matter. You've got a black

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city manager, you got a black vice mayor. You got
a black man who's chair of Law and Public Safety.
You got black people all down there running all kinds
of stuff. Iris Irish ROLLI Paig getting over six hundred
thousand dollars a year, and you got an eleven year
old girl murdered and we haven't heard a word from them,

(01:28:45):
No press conferences, No, here are our solutions. Here's how
we're going to respond to the West End immediately, starting today.
You would think that Mayor Pirval would have his podium
down there putting the damn cameras up himself after the
eleven year old girl is murdered, like the apathy, like

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they have no understanding of the life that was snuffed
out and their direct responsibility of not finding them. It's
not the cops. The cops need help. They're neutering our cops.
It when our cops do proactive policy. They're so worried
about the criminals and what's going to happen to them.
We've got judges who are letting them out as suit

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as we arrest them. And we've got eleven year old
girls getting murdered on a playground in the West End
with no response from this mayor, no response from this council,
and a West End community that eighty five percent of
them voted for it, but they got a mural on
the outside of city Hall that says Black Lives Matter.
Let me tell you something, Brian Thomas, you are my

(01:29:49):
white brother. You care more about Black Americans lives than
they do. Yeah, they don't care. This is not on
their radar. They're thinking about street cars. They're thinking about
FC and the stadiums and what should they do with
District one, and how do they create some kind of

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mall down there. That's like a like the yellow brick
road all the way down in the city Hall. That's
what's on their mind. It's not on the people. It's
not on this dirty city as we drive around. The
trash that's everywhere anywhere you look. This is a dirty city.
I travel like everybody else travels. This is a dirty city.
We are turning into Chicago and New York every single

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frea your day. And I'm sick of it. I'm sick
of listening to people like Mayor Purreval who care nothing
about the African American community with a mural on the
outside saying black lives matter and our babies are being
flattered in the street. And I have a right to
talk about this. I am African American. I have five children,

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I have a daughter that goes to see I care
deeply about it. My daughter could have been in that park.
We could have gone over to Corey Bowman's church, had
a great service with him, and my daughter could have
been in that park playing and she could be the
one dead today. Wake up Cincinnati, wake up West End.

(01:31:15):
This bothers me. You know, it reminds me of this song.
You know it's called sending the country. You heard this
song the Crowns.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Huh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
It says it reads, are we up here? Mean here
at last on the ground, you in me dah And
then the clown We've got clowns down there at city Hall.
That's what we have, brother, we have clowns down there
at city Hall that care nothing about African Americans. They

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pimp us out every single day. The Democratic Party pimps
us out every time there's an election. Beneath the black vote.
We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. They break
every single promise. Then they spit in the face of
Republicans and Conservatives and independent and libertarians who actually care,
who want to help, want people to say, hey, we

(01:32:12):
want to provide opportunity for you. We want to be responsive.
I guarantee you if my friend Corey Bowman was the mayor,
there would have been cameras there the next day. I
guarantee you If brad Winstrop had been the mayor, there
would have been cameras there already. The problem here is
African Americans are confused. Lyndon Johnson put it together. He

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said he was going to put a program together that
made sure that African Americans voted for Democrats for two
hundred years, and he did it. And we're sleep at
the wheel when eleven year old girls are being murdered
on playgrounds and you have a mayor and a council
doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Brian Thomas, Well tell you what I really wish you
were a little more passionate about this, Christopher Smithman, Let's
bring it back for one more segment before we get
to Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes with his opinion
on the violence of the past couple of weeks. One
more with christ gab fifty five K the talk station
seven forty one Here fifty five KRC the talk station

(01:33:15):
one more and he is venting without question today, Christopher
smitham of this with the smith Man. We're gonna hear
from Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes in the next segment, Christopher, again,
the floor is yours.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
Well, I think the chief for his service and his
commitment and all his officers and all peace officers across
our country. But as you're about to interview him, I'm
going to switch and just say, you know, I want
to be clear. I support the administration for capturing Madura president.
He's not president, he's a he's a dictator. And the

(01:33:48):
language is important because he stole the election. He wasn't
the president. There was an election of free election, and
I assume that when that election happens again that the
rightful person will be elected in Venezuela. But what blows
me away are these protests. It's hard to watch to
these people that are walking around acting like all of

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these people who are protesting around the world, not the country,
Venezuelan's Cubans, Colombians, Latino people. The Latin community is excited
about the fall of this dictator because of all the
things that he has done. The murder, the rate, the prostitution,
the drugs, the political prisoners. It's all insane in the

(01:34:35):
Western hemisphere, and we finally had a president that had
the kahunas to go in and shay, look, guy, not
in my backyard. This is not gonna happen here. Columbia
better worry about it. Mexico better worry about it. Cuba
obviously is in trouble because their oil is going to
be cut off. Yeah, and you've got you've got a
Cuban who's the secretary of State if you watch that

(01:34:57):
press conference, listen, he's not he is Cuban. He's saying,
I'm gonna clean this up before I get out of here.
So the reality of it is, and you already see
Cuban saying we want the fall of Cuba. We want
Cuba to be a free country. Here's what's crazy. What
is going on with these people that are out here
protesting holding flags from Venezuela. They're not Venezuela's they have

(01:35:22):
no hone. It probably couldn't even tell you where it
is on the map. But the reality of it is,
they're out there saying the president did something that was bad,
even though the super super super super majority of the world,
including those who are directly impacted, are saying this was
a great thing. Are they listening, Brian Thomas, What the
hell is going on? What am I watching on TV?

(01:35:44):
What am I missing when I see people out protesting
saying this was a bad thing, This was a drug lord.
There was an indictment. I've been listening to your show.
This was an indictment the DEA. It was carried out
by the president. This man was pulled out of his
bed with his wife and going to be a rain
this morning for justice for his crimes. This is what

(01:36:05):
this was out. Nobody was killed. Our elite teams did
a great job. We commend the military and everything that
they did over the weekend. I'm just saying, I'm not
talking about regime change. I'm not talking about oil that
Russia and China and Iran are down there taking anyway,
anyway or anyway they're taking it. The reality of it is,

(01:36:26):
this was a terrible guy, a dictator that we had
a warn out for his arrest. And I've been listening
to your show, Guy, I'm glad his buddy's in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Well got to remember though he was a Marxist slash socialist.
He was there, Darwin for a long time on the
heels of Chavez. It was one of those countries that
was held out as an example to be followed. Bernie,
you know, Bernie Sanders like were all just praising about
the whole idea of the concept that going on there.
Marxists are willing to overlook the crimes of their Marxist leaders.

(01:36:55):
Look at Russia, the history of the murders that are
committed in the name of Marxism and socialists. It's happened
all over the world. They've killed more people in the
name of their ideology than any other ideology out there.
They're not willing to hold their Marxists accountable for anything
that they've done wrong, and I think that's where this
is coming from. So I don't know, Christopher, I don't know, man.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
I'm watching the mayor of New York come out, damn it,
and I tell you this is a very dangerous time
because it's so serious. You see Venezuelan's who are challenging
these protesters. I am worried that this is going to
turn into a toxic, violent situation because they don't know
what they're playing with. They hate the president so much,

(01:37:36):
no matter what he does, no matter how successful he is,
no matter if this was in the best interest. Meaning
Democrats just two to four years ago were saying they
want him out of there. Now all of a sudden,
they're supporting him. They put a fifty million dollars back
on them, and ultimately this president went out and executed
what they said they wanted. Now they're out protesting saying

(01:37:58):
everything is bad. I'm just saying to Brian Thomas, this
is the complete insanity where people say people have this
derangement about our current president. You have to be able
to have sense and say when things you like are happening,
it makes sense you should be out there commending him.
You shouldn't be out there trying to destroy America, destroy
our flag. I'm letting you know, brother, the Venezuelan people

(01:38:20):
are so excited about the possibilities of their freedom. I
hope it goes well. I pray it goes well. But
this was one hell of a step one balls. He
moved from the president, the executive of our country to
go in and snatch this man straight out of his
bed with his wife and bring him back to New
York and arrang him on Monday. And I commend this

(01:38:41):
administration for what they did.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Christopher Smithing, always a pleasure hearing from me, and I
appreciate the passion behind your arguments and comments this morning.
Love you brother, Love you two man. Yeah, Happy New Year,
looking forward to another New Year conversation all year long,
forty seven right now stick around Hamilton Township Police Chief
Scott Hughes, considering the eleven year old got gunned down
in a playground and since he's West End just before

(01:39:04):
seven pm, should never have happened. There is no justification
for this. And to join the program. Who has got
some comments of his own, the Hamilton Township Police Chief
Scott Hughes. Scott, I saw your post the other day
and I'm glad to have you on the program this morning.
Welcome sir, and happy New year to you.

Speaker 8 (01:39:21):
Glad to be back, Brian, Happy New Year to you
too well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Christopher obviously very passionate about his criticism of the administration
in downtown Cincinnati, and I know the residents of the
West End had been promised some cameras and some lighting
in this area for a couple of years. Only last
summer did they get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
financial allocation to do that. And yet, of course here
we are standing today, they have never been put in.
But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is,

(01:39:46):
as from I understand it, officers are stretched way too thin.

Speaker 8 (01:39:52):
Yeah, absolutely, Brian. This has happened at large cities all
across the country. I've had a couple of folks reach
out to me inside the city Cincinnati as an example,
and you know they're they're telling me that you've got
three police officers showing up for a roll call.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:40:07):
And some of the busiest districts in Cincinnati, you've got
you've got robberies that are occurring, and they don't have
enough police officers to establish primeters to try to catch
these bad actors after they commit these crimes. And you know, uh,
but preventative, excuse me, we can we can prevent crimes
by being visible, right, you know, I was using analogy.

(01:40:29):
Using analogy, what happens when you're driving up the highway
and you see a police car sitting in the turnaround
in the middle the highway? You slow down?

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
This the term right, Yes, I know that.

Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
I mean, you know, think about it. Right, as soon
as you do, you slam on the brakes and everybody
slows down, and then you know that, and then they
resume after they passed the police car. Imagine if we
have police officers visible and in these locations, this eleven
year old kid is not dead, right, Uh, it's just
it's just something not going to happen. But when you've
got three officers showed up to roll call, uh, and

(01:40:58):
they're going from call to call to call, and then
when they do get calls, they don't have enough people
to handle the calls. That is a recipe for divaster,
and unfortunately then you end up the situations like this.
So this has happened all across this country.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Well, Chief Hughes, we have obviously known about the lack
of police officers or the limited number. Our contingent is
still way below where it's supposed to be, and maybe
where it's supposed to be isn't even quite enough. The solution,
obviously is to hire more police officers, lateral hires, of course,
new police classes. That does take time. But if the
administration had the will, if you had a pro policing administration,

(01:41:33):
one that understands exactly what you're talking about, more police
equals less crime, how quickly could we replace the contingent
of police officers? I mean, isn't that a logistical hurdle?
It's almost insurmountable these days with all the criticism of
law enforcement generally, Yeah, you know, it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:51):
Sure is, And that is a big driving factor. You've
gotten morales, it's just absolutely crushed and a lot of
these organizations and these these men and women out there
in the uniform are doing what a buddy of mine
calls the hardest job in America. And they are doing
it with pride and honor, and they will. They are
willing to risk their lives for people that they've never met.
But when when you're when you have locality locations that

(01:42:15):
are demonizing law enforcement, they're not supporting, they're not given
the resources that they need. It makes a job be
more challenging. And you know, I'm up here in Warren County,
we don't have this recruitment issues because we are in
a pro police location. Case in point, there is a
I'm sure you saw in the news this weekend. They
had a high speed chase that came through Warren County.

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Multiple jurisdictions involved, and jurisdictions up here. It took proactive
approaches in that pursuit and take these two individuals who
are not from Warren County as minunderstanding into custody and
they will be held accountable up here in Warren County.
And it's just it's just amazing to me the difference
when you cross county lines and in some places state lines,

(01:42:59):
just the and what's tolerant and what's not, and where
you have recruitment issues and where you don't have recruitment issues.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Well, I think part of the recruitment issue problem could
be solved if the administration was more outspoken in favor
of police. The silence from the city is just deafening
when it comes to law enforcement and support of them.
And you know, having Iris Rollie say what you want
about Iris Rollie, but she is not a friend of
the police department. She's been paying six hundred plus thousand

(01:43:27):
dollars years under contract as a you know, sort of
a subcontractor employee of the city. You're not an employee
of the city, but a subcontractor, so she's free of
all these nepotism rules and everything. But because of her
very prominent position and her close connection with f tab
Provo and the Vice mayor, that sends a message just
in and of itself that's the city is not pro police,

(01:43:49):
and that to me would be a big step in
the right direction. Maybe get rid of her your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (01:43:55):
Yeah, so, I'm not familiar with her in particular down
there in the city, but I can tell you based
on what I've read and what I'm hearing, there's no
doubt that that's impact the morale. It's impacting the mental
women who are out there doing this job. It's certainly
going to cause hesitation. We have to be able to
proactively go after these these low level offenses. We know

(01:44:16):
there's a there's a ferry called broken windows policing to
target low up You know, if you target these low
level offenders, that's going to prevent these bigger cases from occurring.
But again, when you don't have enough officers out there
to make the traffic stops, to stop and have conversations
with people in the corners because they're going from call
to call to call again, it's just this recipe for disaster.

(01:44:41):
Like unfortunately we had a couple of days ago, you
have eleven year olds who are now victims because the
police officer's hands are tied, often by not their own doing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
One can only pray that the murder of that eleven
year old is a straw that finally breaks the camel's
back of this anti police rhetoric that comes out of
our elected officials. Can only pray to God that we
get more police, and you know, maybe the answer is
offering them more money. Scott, That's one dangling carrot that's
certainly in the arsenal of options, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:45:08):
You know, those guys and gals down there. They certainly
are not ever going to be paid enough. That is
certainly going to help incentivize this. But I think more
important than that is they have to have the support politically,
knowing that if they make a decision that's going to
be supported as long as it's right, not wrong, good

(01:45:29):
not bad. People are going to protect them. They're going
to have their back. They've got to be outspoken, they
got to be in front of us supporting these men
and women when they involve these situations. That's how you
That's in my opinion, that's how you improve it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Amen. And I'll tell you what I know. The members
of the Cincinnia Police Department truly appreciate your support. Hamilton
Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Keep up the words of support, sir,
and you're always welcome here in the morning show to
comment on matters law enforcement. Happy new Year to you
and appreciate your support of law enforcement and running a
really tight shit there, my friend. Apparently a lot better
environment for law enforcement than it is in the city.

Speaker 8 (01:46:07):
I appreciate it. Brid Again, Happy New Year, thoughts and
prayers of the family. Eleven year old.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Exactly, Thank you, Scott. He's been a pleasure seven fifty seven.
Right now, Brother Andrea Ewing, Brother Dre in studio, he'll
be talking about crime Shibato six here of fifty five
kr CEV talk station. A very happy Monday, tet, A
very happy new year to everyone. Nice to be back
to work. Nice to be firing on at least a
few of my cylinders, and it is always great. I

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love this man, Brother Andrea Ewing would call him Brother Dre.
You can find him online and Andrea Ewing. He is responsible.
He's the founder of a Curse Breakers three hundred strong
and death Row ministries. He tried to help some people
dealing with the prison system to no longer deal with
the prison system, to find solutions for these people to
choose a better path in life. And in fact, former
police officer was almost we round up. We'll call him

(01:46:56):
thirty year veteran since I an police officer, so he
has been there. He's done the hard work that we
were just talking about with Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes.
He knows how bad things can be, he knows how
stressful the job is, and he knows what it's like
to be supported by elected officials and he also can
lay witness to what happens when our elected officials do
not support police. Brother Dre. It is great having you

(01:47:18):
back in studio. Happy new year, my friend. Happy new year.
Brother Brian.

Speaker 7 (01:47:22):
Is so good to see you. I'm excited about being here.
It's time to go to work.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Well, we have come a long way since twenty twelve,
and I really truly you're not patting yourself on the back.
You kind of brought this proclamation from the Hamilton County
Border Commissioners that you received in honor of the work
that you did for community service and problem solving. It's
the twenty twelve Beyond the Call Award, and it looks

(01:47:49):
remarkably familiar. But as I see, it was signed by
Greg Hartman, Chris Monzel and Todd portun acknowledging you for
the work you did building cooperation between police and the community.
You were doing outreach work, you were doing all kinds
of you know, talking with churches, You met with community
leaders discuss the idea of you know, enthusiastic responses. You

(01:48:11):
talked about the idea of police, you know, having a
better relationship. You got an award for this. This is
something that I just got off the phone with Hamilton
Township Police Chief Scott Hugheston. He identified it and I
brought it up to him. Wouldn't we have a much
better city of Cincinnati if the damn elected officials would
come out and support the officers and praise them for
the work they do, Acknowledge their hard work, give them

(01:48:33):
the support they need, Encourage strong policing, put cameras up
where we obviously need cameras. I mean, there's a multitude
of things. The silence is deafening. You don't hear anything.
If it ain't a ribbon cutting ceremony for some new
skateboard park, you have to have parvolls missing in action.
So I mean, what happened between this time when what

(01:48:53):
you were awarded for, which what we're all clamoring for.
Whatever happened to these kinds of programs, they just disappear.

Speaker 7 (01:49:00):
Called leadership once again. And you've heard me hammer it home,
and Smitherman was right on point. I thought I was
listening to brother Drey this morning when Smitherman was talking,
so shout out to him on his passion. I have
a daughter as well, and I understand this process, and
it's the gloves are off, and they've always been off.
But when you look at what the community is developed,

(01:49:22):
you have your pastors, you have police, and you have parents.
And back back then in twenty eleven, here it is
a program being started, a faith based initiative called Fact
D three. We started in District three. And ironically, guess
who was the captain in District three at that time,
Captain Russ Neville, So he can witness the program itself

(01:49:44):
and exactly what took place. And what's interesting is that
what everybody is trying to do right now has already
been done.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
But you had.

Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
Leadership and ego maniacs and people that are envious and
jealous come in and try to dismantle a program.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
And now what do you get.

Speaker 7 (01:50:01):
You constantly get chaos, You constantly get shootings. You constantly
get a community who do not trust the police. And
that's a problem. And they would rather see a little
girl gunned down. They would rather see constant murders in
Cincinnati than to tell the police. Why there is no

(01:50:22):
relationship anymore with the police and with the parents and
the pastors need to get reinvolved to re establish this
relationship so we can build trust once again.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Okay, I'm glad you brought the pastor part up because
I asked you off air. And it's been my perception
that maybe pastors don't wield any level of respect or
authority the way they at once point did a lot
of people in the old days. We all went to
church on Sunday. Children went and they were brought up.
You know, suffer the little children come unto me. You

(01:50:54):
bring them to church. They learned the rules, they learned
the morals, they learned the ethic, they learned the values
of Chris Janity or Judaism, whatever, all designed to make
humanity work together and play together better. But do kids
go to church anymore? Does a reverend or a pastor
or a minister at one of the city churches still
hold and wield some measure of influence over young people? No, Oh, God,

(01:51:18):
that's so hard.

Speaker 7 (01:51:18):
Social media is the rule. People don't really come out
to fellowship anymore at churches. Churches are hemorrhaging for young
people to come out. And this is an issue because
now most pastors have different agendas when they used to
get out into the community. Avondale has fifty two churches

(01:51:39):
on every block. You would go and see that there
is a church, and in every community, you would go
and see that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
There is a church.

Speaker 7 (01:51:46):
So the church would be responsible for their block. They
would make sure that they know everyone in the community
and would minister to that community, whether it's your house,
a refuge where they're you need food and clothing, whether
you need even counsel. Those pastors are needed. But what

(01:52:06):
has happened now today? The pastors go against the police.

Speaker 5 (01:52:10):
Yea.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
Now when you have strong leaders that constantly talk about
the police and only bring up black lives matter, if
the police are involved in a shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Yeah, and they want and the narrative is they will
cite an illustration and no one, no one can say
with a straight face that all police are all good, moral, ethical,
right people. No one is correct. I mean, you're looking
for perfect in any human being, you ain't gonna find
it right, correct, So we start from that. But by
focusing on only the worst and then telling the rest

(01:52:43):
of the world that all of them are participants in
this egregious behavior, you've undermined the whole thing. And when
you were talking about what the pastors used to do,
they know everybody on the block. They would engage, they
would find out they would listen and talk. That was
kind of the role the police used to have. The
beat cop. You know, he knew the store owners, say
hi to them, checking doors. That's the type of relationship

(01:53:06):
we need to build between police and the community. But
if the community is of the perception that any guy
in uniform or woman in uniform bad, if that's the
first response, you're not gonna get anywhere nowhere, know how.

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
And this is what you see in the communities that
are happening. They really are saying, hey, we don't want
the police here. We don't want you here at all.
We're not gonna support that at all. And if you're
in our neighborhood now it's well, the police are gonna
just arrest us and don't talk to the police at all.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
So now you have this misconception.

Speaker 7 (01:53:38):
What are you teaching our young people, especially our young
inner city kids that look at the uniform and say,
I despise you from jump And this is why it's
important to reunite this relationship to really say we're not
just here to lock you up. That's not my intentions.
And that's what I wanted to prove even back in
twenty eleven, to say Hey, look, you're looking at the uniform,

(01:54:02):
but let me tell you more about brother Dre. And
this built the relationship that it became so strong. I
was even awarded for it. But people lost sight of
the vision. And like I told you before, even a
Vice mayor Kearny, she knows about the program and things
that are implemented. And one thing that agreeges me is
when Miss Williams, the mother of the eleven year old,

(01:54:26):
she made a comment said, we don't even live here.
I hate this city. There's nothing but cruel people here.
Now see that right there alone as a travesty and
how they were treated at the hospital.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
And I know that to be true.

Speaker 7 (01:54:42):
And that's why this program was implemented, to teach pastors
and have chaplains and have an emergency care team to
go to these families at the hospital, because I've watched
them just look at their loved one dead, and no
one is there to support, No one is the go between,
no one to talk to them. So I hope that

(01:55:04):
introim Chief Henny is listening because I'm tired of talking
about the same things. Get a care team in place.
It was dismantled back in twenty eleven and twelve because
of jealousy. We need to have people in place that
know how to talk to the community and be a
goal between.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
So a program that you were responsible for that proved
itself a worthwhile program so much so that you got
an award for it, they dismantled it over politics.

Speaker 7 (01:55:32):
Basically correct correct is there's always jealousy when you reach
the top. Trust me when I tell you that. And
when you are doing great things, you are a big
target and they say new levels, new devils. And so
even though the program tried to continue, they couldn't continue it.
Why because God didn't give them the vision. God didn't

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give them to know how what to do. And the
key was it started in District three, but the goal
was to have it in every district, to have a
faith based liaison officer in all the five districts at
that time. And what you would have is now a
communication from every district, in every corner, in every church.

(01:56:17):
It proved successful in District three, which is one of
the busiest districts that we have, and so why wouldn't
you want to utilize that in every district? So they
didn't continue with the vision. And guess what happened, the
relationships between the police and the pastors separated in the community,
lost trust, and here we are today.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
And then you have the George Floyd impetus behind the
Black Lives Matter movement, which became a complete hate the police,
defund the police, and propelling and continuing that broadbrush narrative
that all police are bad. Let's talk with more with
Brother Dre Andre Ewing fundment line Andrea Ewing on Facebook.
He's just outspoken. He does a video sort of a

(01:56:59):
fireside if I may be so delicate, but he does
a great job at it. Eight sixteen right now, will continue,
don't go away? Fifty five car the talk station, Ay
twenty here fifty about Percy Talk Station. I will correct
the record. Brother Drey is in studio, but I used
Andre Ewing. It's his web page on Facebook. But he's

(01:57:20):
got his own Curse Breakers one word three hundred dash,
Brother Dre. If you just type in curse Breakers three
hundred on Facebook, you will find it. And that's where
you can be well. You can enjoy his rants as
much as I do. Each and every week Ox spoke
and again he knows about law enforcement, having spent almost
thirty full years as a Cincinni police officer, an award

(01:57:40):
winner he is for his actions in the community, trying
to breach that you know, trust issue that we clearly have,
which is fomented by politicians and programs that were successful
that have been deleted or eliminated because new sheriffs in town,
new administration all we can't keep around with the former.
Did we need to go our own direction and take

(01:58:02):
credit for that? I get that's I guess that is
the impression. But going back to the political figures, we
have the pastors and the ministers, the community leaders, and
I'll throw Iris Rowley's name out there again because she
is so profoundly influential. You can say anything you want
about her. She's got a lot of sway politically in
downtown Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (01:58:22):
Absolutely, I mean Iris Rowley, and I've said this is
powerful in the city of Cincinnati and other places. And
one thing that I know, if you want to move
the needle, you put Iris Rowley and Damon Lynch in
the same room. I guarantee the cameras to be down
there the next day. You're right, okay, Now, so we
have to deal with the elephant in the room. And

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if you are that powerful and you have that type
of voice and you can move the needle. Why is
not this happening? So what has to happen is the
community of the West End OTR other areas they have
to I'll build their strong communities. They have to literally
stay consistent and come together as one. But if Iris

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Rowley is strictly against the police and don't trust the police,
and hear Brother Dre is saying, hold on, we can
try to work this out. Let's work together. Guess what
they're gonna trust more Iris Rowley than they will now,
Brother Dre, because I've worn the uniform. So there needs
to be a breach of mediation. And that's why you've
heard me say on my podcast, I'm not here to

(01:59:29):
take sides. I'm here to save lives, right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
I just don't understand why she is that powerful and fine,
why doesn't she use that voice and that power for good.
You heard Smithman going on about, you know, the Black
Lives matter out there in front of city Hall, and
he's saying, damn it, these people do not care about
black lives because if they did, they would be working

(01:59:53):
to breach this gap that exists, a gap that exists
primarily because someone's so influential regularly goes out in front
of the crowd and says, don't listen to those people.
Police are bad, period, end of story. And then you
can't get off the ground with moving forward with bettering
the community relations and bringing about a safer neighborhood. What
is her problem with wanting a safer neighborhood. Police can

(02:00:17):
bring that about. The physical presence of police officers are
a deterrent to crime, stopping crime before it happens. Look,
there's a cop on the corner, I'm not going to
commit a crime like standing right there. That works. What's
wrong with that concept? Brother dray Well.

Speaker 7 (02:00:33):
I believe in just talking to a lot of individuals
in the community that if we say release the police,
then there would be mass incarceration and they'll just start
to take advantage of the inner city of police. And
that's why I said there has to be trust involved,
and you have to make sure that these police officers

(02:00:55):
get checked accordingly. And that's why I always talk about
mental health. That you can't just let a police officer
go twenty twenty five years, fifteen years and never have
a wellness check. That's ridiculous. And I always said every
three months they should be having a strong psychological evaluation
to make sure how their policing is done. And even

(02:01:17):
have individuals that understand if this particular officer consistently gets
a complaint, they're consistently stacking charges. They're consistently arresting people
that don't deserve it. This is where you have, say
the brother dres that understand, why is this officer doing
what they're doing. So But now if you have it
one way, brother Brian, that says, we don't care, don't

(02:01:40):
trust the police, don't tell them anything. Now you have
a community that's afraid of the police and the bad guys.
That is a recipe for disaster. And this is what
you are seeing right now. No trust with the police
and I'm scared of the local bad guy.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
Wow, And you know, just go I ask you the
question off the air. I mean, if you could get
a straight answer poll, you go out in every single resident,
unlike an election where only twenty five percent show up,
But if you got every single resident on record with
an honest answer to the question, would you like a
stronger police presence in your neighborhood? Period? End of story

(02:02:18):
I would like to think that most people would, especially
if you're in a high crime neighborhood like the West End, Well,
of course I would rather have police there. Maybe there's
some bad eggs within, but we're going to stop the
crime from happening because they're around all the time.

Speaker 7 (02:02:31):
Correct, Correct, But being around is also just saying we
need our community officers to be more involved. And when
I was doing it, it was we were making visits
and constant community outreaches and we were involved in so
many things within the community, making those people with absolutely
and so they looked at the officer differently in the

(02:02:55):
uniform based on that. Now the officer doesn't have the
time to go up about that. This is why I said,
if you have experienced veteran officers that have retired, put
them into a community relations position to go into the
neighborhoods and rebuild the trust. You have all this money,

(02:03:16):
your auditioning out, but like I said, you're not focusing
it on the right resources. Bring back these educated officers
that understand, give them the right training and allow them
to rebuild the relationships within the community on a regular basis.
Because the the the cop team units now they're overwhelmed

(02:03:38):
with so many other projects that they.

Speaker 5 (02:03:40):
Have to do.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Is down too and we need more office. Absolutely, work done. Absolutely,
we'll continue with Andrea Ewing again. Curse Breakers three hundred
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Brother Dre on book, that's where you find the man
who is brother Dre. Andre Ewingien Studio. Thirty years as

(02:04:04):
a police officer, just shy. He's seen it all. He's
had programs that he's been behind and got awards for them,
ways of bettering community relations between the police and the
community and of course holding those responsible for bad behavior responsible.
And you know the way the data is collected these days,
this isn't the old days, Drey. I mean, you can't

(02:04:25):
get away with stuff like he did in the old days.
The officers all have cameras recording what they're doing when
they're on the beat. Everybody's got a camera around him.
The city's got cameras all over the place, well except
for the West end, so you know this is going
to be recorded. Police know that they aren't this isn't
the days of the rubber hose and beating confessions out
of people. And I'm not going to excuse, you know,

(02:04:45):
pulling people over for driving while black or something. We
all know that that puts a bad taste in people's mouths.
They're just harassing me. But I mean the idea that
these solutions that you you talked to, and one of
the programs you mentioned was there, and we used to
have the officers in school and talking about issues with

(02:05:06):
drugs and reaching out and getting in touch with these
young people and establishing this relationship. Now, I asked you,
because that doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 7 (02:05:13):
Apparently, correct, not here in Cincinnati. It is in some
nationwide departments inside the schools and for the their program
that was the Drug Abuse Resistance Education. It is neat
especially in times of today, that is so much easy

(02:05:34):
access to drugs everywhere for our kids, and so it
is necessary that we educate them properly. I've talked to
school teachers and they tell you we can't even teach
because the kids come in high they are either smoking weed,
they have alcohol, and this is a major major issue

(02:05:56):
and we can't keep up with trying to educate them.
Them and they constantly get left behind. And this is
why you had all these alternative and charter schools being developed,
and you look back and you don't there's a charter
school every other month coming of being presented, which is
absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
Well did the program work? That was the question I
asked you was a follow up because you know, quite often, well, yeah,
there's a we got a new solution, let's let's fund
this program, and then we find out that the program
is funded. Yeah we've got DARE going on in the
school system, but you don't hear anything about the result.
Isn't that a program that actually bore fruit and helped
people stay off drugs and get them on the right path.

Speaker 7 (02:06:41):
Yes, it did. We have some excellent SROs that implemented
the DARE program. I mean they they had a relationship
with the kids that was amazing and knew how to
talk to them in a special way, and the kids
trusted them as well, because now they are not just
on the police, they're educating and they're telling you that

(02:07:03):
things that are bad and what can happen to you
if you have drugs on you. So it was an
early intervention and they tell you already that early intervention
is part of a problem solving in these things. It
isn't rocket science. But if we don't you already have
an audience when you have kids already in school.

Speaker 1 (02:07:25):
Yeah, you do. And I was just laughing as you
were saying that at early intervention, going back to getting
kids back into church again, you know, if the wrath
of God is going to come down upon you, and
you learn that at a really early age and as
a way of keeping you out of trouble a lot.

Speaker 7 (02:07:39):
Absolutely, absolutely, And it's proven that gun violence drops when
policies are layered, but they're not extreme. I'm gonna give
you an example. So you number one, you got to
have responsible gun laws. I mean, let's make sure that
the laws definitely fit the crime. When we don't just
patch you on the back and rub you down with
some and say it's okay, I mean, we got to

(02:08:01):
get serious. And then the strong communities that for some reason,
the communities are not strong anymore, they're broken, and we
have to find a way to redevelop the strong communities,
not after major issues happened before. And then you have
to have once again we just said it, early intervention,
and it's so you have that early intervention, then then

(02:08:24):
there has to be what Brian accountability for violent behavior.
So there's still accountability, there still has to be discipline.
We're not just going to say no, it's over. So
when you layer these things, this has been proven proven
to work. So that's why it amazes me when I
keep hearing all these thousands of programs that keep coming up.

(02:08:46):
And I talked to somebody after we did a youth
interaction before, and he said, if we can concentrate more
on collaboration versus competition, we could move the need in
a strong way and our hundred percent and agree.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Well, it's like the hand in the cookie jar kind
of thing that we saw in Minnesota and elsewhere in
this country. You know, you create a non governmental organization
who has all these great ideas and all the best
interests of the community, and everybody lines up and creates
their own NGO. They're going to get a check and
they're on competition for whatever finite number of dollars. Is
is there any follow up with any organization out there

(02:09:22):
claiming to do what you actually did back in twenty
eleven that is showing results, it is actually proving that
it works. I don't ever hear any follow up.

Speaker 7 (02:09:31):
And that's the problem is they have all these government
funds and federal funds that come out and they just
start giving away money. We want to see the proof
in the putting. Let's see exactly. Let's measure how this
has worked and save lives and made transformations.

Speaker 1 (02:09:48):
A thirty six. Right now, we will continue with Brother
Dre Kursebreaker three hundred, Brother Dre on Facebook. Hold on
right back. This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station.
You're see the Talk State. Hey forty Here at fifty
five KARCD Talk station, Brian Thomas with in studio Curse
Breakers three hundred, Brother Dre Andre Ewing again, thirty year

(02:10:10):
police officer. He's got some great ideas about how to
repair community relations and he got an award for these
types of ideas a decade ago, and apparently they got
rid of them because well, the new administration, well they
weren't their ideas. So let's toss that out throughout the
baby with the bathwater. Let's not keep what works, let's
start with something new. And then that brings us to
the challenge of you know, is there any accountability with

(02:10:31):
whatever programs have been started to correct this problem and
to bring it. You know, I honestly, Dre, I would
think that correcting the misperception that police are all bad
that is probably the easiest of the challenges. Just straight marketing.
You got Purval and Michelle and Kearney, and you've got
everybody on board praising the police, saying, don't demonize them,

(02:10:54):
welcome them. They've got great resources. They can steer you
in the right direction, keep you out of trouble. They're
not there to hurt you or the there to help you.
That's why they signed up. That seems the easiest of
the challenges to deal with. And you mentioned earlier in
the program, you know, these outreach programs you try to
engage parents and pastors and all these other community leaders.
The word parents. I wrote that down because I get

(02:11:16):
the impression that parents just don't seem to really care
what their kids are up to at any given time,
that there isn't that disciplinary component. I mean, I don't
know what you were like growing up, but growing up
in my house, the biggest concern I had was the
incurring the wrath of my dad or my mom. I mean,
that was primary discipline. Number one didn't matter if I

(02:11:38):
got paddled in school. I was going to get a
paddle when I got home too, and it was going
to be worse than the one I got at school.
So they cared enough about my future to make sure
I went to school, to make sure I applied myself.
Is that as a concept just completely disappeared, dray Well, Let's.

Speaker 7 (02:11:55):
Deal with the facts, brother Brian. One of the things
that are is true is when you have fatherless homes,
it has been proven fact that your kids will more
than likely over sixty to seventy percent will be involved
in some type of dysfunction, some type of crime, some

(02:12:17):
type of drug addiction. So it is a shout out
to the real fathers that handle their business. I'm all
for you, But the ones that are out here doing nothing,
that have zero relationship with your children, that just want
to keep making babies and that's it. There is a
responsibility as men, and I can speak on the level

(02:12:40):
of a black father who raised his daughter had full custody.
Shout out to Moline, I love you.

Speaker 5 (02:12:47):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:12:48):
The bottom line is black fathers need to stand up
as well as white fathers. I don't care what race
you are but the father in the home is important
to have that relationship. So when you have these absentee das,
it has been proven that violence will increase. You have
young young men and women that just are frustrated at

(02:13:10):
life because the number one person that should be in
my life to show me some grounding is no longer there.
And now the mothers have to either work over time,
double time trying to raise these children. And so what
happens is the siblings and the children have to take
care of the other siblings, so they don't go to

(02:13:30):
school and get the education necessary.

Speaker 1 (02:13:34):
And this has to change absolutely well. And that's see
another seemingly insurmountable problem. If you have abasthe fathers, they're disappeared,
they're gone, they're a jult, doesn't matter what happened to them.
Then that's a role that could possibly be filled by
men like you, people who are willing to engage in
programs for young people to act as that mentor and

(02:13:57):
to provide that fatherly figure God idans that these children
so desperately need. I mean, that seems to be a
worthy goal and a worthy idea as long as you're
not politicizing it. I mean, I want to turn my
kid over to You know, if I left my young kids,
if I still had young kids who weren't adults, and
I put them in the hands of Andrea Ewing, I
know they'd be taking great care of I know your message.

(02:14:18):
I know what you would be saying. I know that
they would be safe in your you know, under your tutelage.
And it is possible that there's someone out there that
has this idea, but then they'll turn it into a
big political exercise and try to convince your kids a
cops suck or something like that. But we need strong
father figures to fill in that void where they do
not exist in these young people's lives or they're destined
to that percentage you mentioned.

Speaker 7 (02:14:39):
One hundred percent. And what's interesting is I was doing
all this on my police salary. Yeah, I know, I know, Okay,
I didn't ask for give me a special amount of money.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
I wish i'd have brought that up there.

Speaker 7 (02:14:50):
Give me all this financial means that I need to
make it happen. I did it within the confinement of
my work shift. And that's why I'm gonna give a
shout out to Captain Russ Neville and I'm gonna tell
you why. You know, we know I have have the
issues with Chief theji Okay, But Captain russ Neville he
understood the vision at District three. He saw the work

(02:15:13):
that I was doing and he said, what do you
need to make this successful?

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
And I'll give it to you.

Speaker 7 (02:15:20):
Whether it was the days off, whether it was the overtime,
he said, I want to make sure this happened. And
the key was he was directly involved that every pastor
every community member that I met, he took the time
out to sit at the table to make sure these

(02:15:41):
things were going to happen. And it was interesting because
he was out of his comfort zone going into I
want to say black churches and being in a position
to speak. But it brought the relationship together because number one,
they never really seen a white officer come into an
all black church. But I was able to show him

(02:16:01):
exactly how there are cultural differences, but how we can
come together. And he saw firsthand how it worked. And
the proof is in what you see right here in
the rewards that was just given.

Speaker 1 (02:16:13):
Well, I'm gonna pause. We'll bring him back for one
more since we have one more segment with Curse Breaker three.
Hundred Brother Dre. He talks about it now.

Speaker 7 (02:16:23):
I'm Stephen Curry and this is Gentleman's cut.

Speaker 5 (02:16:27):
I think what makes Gentleman's.

Speaker 1 (02:16:28):
Cut their CD talk station. Happy New Year Brian Thomas
with Brother Dre. You can find him online in Facebook
Curse Breakers three hundred dash Brother Dre and you'll be
very entertained by what he has to say, some enlightening
comments and some very pointed criticisms from time to time.
That's why we bring him on the program. All right,
man who had successful ideas and again got an award
for what he was doing and by way of outreach

(02:16:50):
more than a decade ago, programs that actually work. This
was through District three of the CINCINNT Police Department, and
he was doing all of this work, the outreach work,
the efforts to you know, bring themmunity together, getting the
priests together, the ministers and and and the people of
faith together to work with the community and all designed
to you know, grease the skids and oil the machine

(02:17:11):
of better community relations and also trying to have an
impact on young people and change the trajectory of their life.
You were able to do this. You had the help
of the Captain of District three. Who offered you the resources?
No one wrote you a check.

Speaker 4 (02:17:25):
No one.

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
This wasn't a decree from the from the mayor or
the vice mayor or the city manager and demonstrated success.
Could they do this again on their own? The police?
I mean, is there someone stopping this successful program from
coming back or re engaging it or reimagining it along

(02:17:46):
the similar lines stray No.

Speaker 7 (02:17:49):
This comes down to the chief of police. Okay, the
chief doesn't need permission from the city manager. The chief
doesn't need permission from the mayor to implement programs within
the department. And that's why I say, you have to
have the right people in place that will be effective
to make these things happen. And the officer who has

(02:18:12):
a heart for people, that understands and care about people,
and they should go through a chaplaincy program as well
to understand that process. And that's why it was good
to have everyone work together between the parents, police and
the pastors. It is necessary. But the chief of police

(02:18:33):
could right now if he wanted to call Andre Ewing
say we want to implement a program and re establish
some things, he could actually get officers. So if you
said you don't have the man power, you don't have
the bodies. Guess what I've said it one hundred times.
Bring back retired officers that know the community, know how

(02:18:57):
to talk to people, and can addressing on a whole
different level.

Speaker 1 (02:19:02):
And I think if they spring from this, you know
this belief that you have this, you know that you
haven't lost hope for humanity. You know there's a better way.
If they're interested in engaging in this type of I'll
call it a ministry for lack of a better word,
You're not going to have getting retired police officer. This
isn't like getting a lateral higher from a police department

(02:19:22):
where you are hiring a person to engage in law enforcement.
This would be outside of arresting people. This would be
a spokesperson, an interventionists, someone who could help spread the
resources that are available.

Speaker 7 (02:19:37):
Absolutely and to implement that that training that's necessary so
officers can relate to the issues at hand. And one
thing that made the program even successful was going into
the Hamilton County Justice Center and having the Curse Breakers
three hundred program there and bringing in officers that never

(02:19:59):
had an opportunity need to actually talk to those who
are incarcerated on that level, they would drop them off
but not talk to them, so they would understand and
even develop a different type of relationship with those that
are incarcerated.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
Right, and you were in rooms with, you know, twenty
five thirty probably murderers because if they were still locked
up in a lock up, they obviously had committed some
pretty bad crimes. But they listened to you and they
appreciated you. From what I've understand, are many conversations both
on air and off air about this. They had respect
for a man who came in, who used to wear
the uniform, who even wore the uniform. A cop is

(02:20:34):
sitting here talking to me. That's just highly unusual. But
the idea that it had an impact, that it actually worked.
It was not you were spinning your wheels there talking
to someone like you were talking to a brick wall.

Speaker 7 (02:20:46):
Absolutely, because I was building the relationships number one, to say,
when you get released, we want to make sure you
have relationships already in place, right and wherever you go
back home, it's your community and we need to work together.
And so it was teaching these young men and women
how to be responsible in their community and build these

(02:21:06):
relationships prior to so if they already number one, Employment
is an issue. Guess what you have, Brother Dre, Officer
ewing as a liaison talk to an employer and say,
this person has these skills and are ready to go
right now, And all of a sudden, you can implement
a interview with this person because they've had the train

(02:21:28):
as soon as their foot hits the ground and are released.
Guess what, They're not a menace to society, but they're
a productive person in society, and they go right to
employment and feel better about themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:21:40):
Feeling better about yourselves, you know, the beauty of work,
quite often is that it's worth. Absolutely gives you self respect,
gives your reason to get up in the morning, and
it provides a great foundation for you to maybe have
a family and take care of your kids. Absolute, Brother Dre,
always a pleasure having you in my studio. You are
always welcome in my studio, sir, or even just calling
in if you have if you can't make it in,

(02:22:00):
and I hope that you will be available throughout the
year from time to time to have these conversations further.

Speaker 7 (02:22:06):
Absolutely, and once again I'm tired of saying condolences to
families for the loss and there needs to be responsibility
on a whole nother level. Let's not wait for another
tragedy to do what is right. And someone my mentor,
said this to me. He said, helping hands do more
than praying lips. And I said, wow, because faith without

(02:22:30):
works is dead. So you can pray for me, but
I also want your works to prove what you're saying
with your mouth.

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
That's beautiful message under you aren't going to leave that