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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Five o five.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
If you got KRC the top station Friday vation this.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I have no idea what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, neither do I Tally, I really don't, but I
do feel refreshed like I got a shot of adrenaline yesterday.
Thank you to everyone admitted to listener lunch. That's the
biggest turnout we've had in a long long time. Not
that I'm looking for numbers or I just it was
such a fun time. There's so many wonderful, wonderful people
I got to meet yesterday. I absolutely adore my listeners
and you guys are you keep me on my toes.

(00:54):
You're smart, you're engaged, and tell you what out there
in big numbers to support the can And thanks everybody
who showed up. Candidate wise, Corey Bowman was there, of course,
Christopher's Smithman. I'm joking around because Christopher mentions my name
a lot when he calls up for the Smither event
on Monday mornings. Inside my head when he says my
name out loud, of thinking somebody out there believes I

(01:14):
pay him five dollars every time he mentioned my name.
Well I could have retired yesterday. Thank you, Christopher smith Man.
Yes you did say my name a lot, gave me
way too much credit, way too much good. Everybody was
there to see Smith, Avan and Bowman and Steve Good
and Liz Keating showed up, Betsy Sonnerman, Judge Sunmon was there,
a handful of I mean, obviously there were more, and

(01:37):
just a really heartful thanks to Jim and Jacks. What
a great, great place that is. They're very welcoming. I
had this the fish Log Sandwich is fantastic, So if
you want to go there and get one of those,
support Jim and Jacks. That's kind of the point of
Listener Lunch. And he knows that I've explained this so
many times. The point part of the point of listener

(01:58):
Lunch is to support mom and pop, family owned restaurants.
So Jim and Jacks indeed right up there in the
top tier. From my perspective, all the restaurants we've gone
to for Listener Lunch love going back, and we will
definitely be back for Smithing emerged from his apartment back
at Jim and Jackson if he retired to the apartment

(02:20):
after we left. Anyway, it was a great time, and
thank you to each and every one of you. I
just love that fellowship, and it makes me realize they're
actually people listening. You have no idea how many days
I show up here and I talk and I think
I'm talking into the wilder, a vast empty wilderness. It's

(02:43):
me And if I'm talking to anybody, I'm talking to
Joe Strecker, who I have to see on a video screen.
So that's that's just kind of my mindset. So it
really helps me to see you and meet you and
realize that I'm not alone here in the morning and
proving that if you'd like to give me a call,
if there's something you want to talk about the shut Joe,
how how difficult was it yesterday following the shutdown for

(03:05):
you to survive? You barely made it. I know I
was beside myself with anguish yesterday. It may go on
longer five one three, seven, four, nine fifty eight hundred
two three talk on five fifty on AT and T phones.
Coming up, Congressman Warren Davidson. He'll be on at seven

(03:27):
oh five. He'll be talking about this shutdown. Plus he'll
be talking about an empower youth seminar tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I love Congressman Davidson. Good Man. He is uh one
of the few we've actually got.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh sound money, secure borders and secure elections. That the
subject matter of the Empower Youth Seminar taking place tonight
with Warren Davidson beginning to get seven oh five. Log
in from the comfort and convenience of your own home,
or show up at the Empower Youth Studio at Scarlett
Oaks three hundred Great Oaks Drive, shake hands with Congressman
Day and hear him live. So either way you want

(04:02):
to do it, it's Empower You America dot org. So
register and show up in person or log in from home.
Cory Bowman, Yes, he was a listener lunch yesterday. Corey
Bowman will join me in the studio this morning. He'll
show up at eight oh five. We'll talk about issues
facing the city, including this so called relief of medical
debt that they just did the other day. Oh my god,
I have to have purwall medical debt relief. In other words,

(04:27):
the City of Cincinnati taxpayers are paying off the outstanding
medical bills which had long since been written off by
the hospitals and other providers. They spent one point four
to five million taxpayer dollars to buy two hundred and
nineteen million dollars worth in debt, you think, wait a second, really, Yeah,
the debt was on the books. It's kind of like
going through a bankruptcy. You know, if you're an unsecured creditor.

(04:50):
Once the bankruptcy proceedings are over and the secured creditors
have been paid off, there's a little bit left over maybe,
and that's divided up among unsecured creditors. So if you
look at this whole thing as if it's a bankruptcy, yeah,
two hundred and nineteen million dollars in outstanding debt relieve
quote unquote, when the city walks in and pays one
point four or five million dollars to resolve it. They

(05:11):
accepted that. Why, because there was no way in hell
they were going to get this money from the people
who got the medical treatment. So it's just a debt
on the books. Let's get rid of it here. We'll
take ten cents on the dollar, or maybe five cents
on the dollar or pennies on the dollar just to
write it off. Hey, we got something anyway, you know,
before it was like trying to squeeze a blood out

(05:32):
of a rock at least we got the City of
Cincinnati to pay a little bit. Hmm, and then they
can go and run around and talk about how they
relieved two hundred and nineteen million dollars of debt.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's like a ribbon cunning ceremony for AFTAB provol.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Isn't it.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, I got a great kick out a Signal ninety nine.
If you're not fan of Signal ninety nine, you just
got to follow her. It is her on Facebook. Former
police officer. I think I've speculated out loud on that,
and I think I'm in the right area when I
say that. But maybe even an active police officer, I
don't know who how to identify Sigma ninety nine other
than the moniker, but always writing about city issues and

(06:12):
does a great job going right to the jugular vein
of reality and signal points out say city claims this
was about lifting up struggling residents. Well, thing goes on
to say, but let's be blunt. Medicaid recipients do not
need this debt relief because they already get free medical coverage.

(06:32):
Medicaid Medicare recipients are indeed covered. They may face some copays,
but their healthcare isn't sending them into crushing debt, says
Sigma ninety nine. I'm reading people with private insurance like
you me, expected to pay deductibles like we all do.
Deductibles suck. If you're on the Obamacare plan, you've got

(06:54):
like ten thousand dollars in out of pocket responsibility coming
up in this next calendar year. Yeah, that's things before
the coverage actually kicks in. Go ahead and blame Obama
for that one. It's just how the system was set up.
He did it signaalpoint does so who exactly had this
quote unquote debt that gotta race Mostly the uninsured and underinsured,

(07:17):
including those who choose not to buy coverage, and those
who are undocumented illegals living in the city of Cincinnati.
So if you got Obamacare, at least you would get
a subsidy. If you're one of these lower income folks,
welcome to either Medicaid or an Obamacare plan, which has
and will continue to subsidize premiums if you make under
sixty two five hundred dollars, which seems to be the

(07:40):
stumbling block with the global or the overall government shutdown.
So pivoting away from the City of Cincinnati and the
absurd backcrap insanity of so called relieving this debt on
the taxpayer dollars. Right now, the Democrats are had shut
down government because we're not continuing the subsidy ease with

(08:02):
no cap. Let's remember, why did they RelA or remove
the sixty two thousand, five hundred dollars subsidy cap that
existed before COVID. COVID, that's right, and when they they
decided to subsidize everybody at every income level for the
Obamacare premiums, right, they had a cutoff date. The Democrat's

(08:26):
own proposal to waive subsidies unlimited lasts until the end
of this calendar year. That's what's in the legislation. It's
going to end. They knew when they passed it was
going to end, and I guess they thought that this
moment in time would ultimately show up, because once you've
got a government program in place, there's no way it's
going to go anywhere. People will get used to and

(08:46):
start relying on these subsidies. Yeah, so we see the reveal.
Now you lead us up to a government shutdown in
the name of continuing something that had a built in
cutoff date. You want to continue something that was only
brought about and only justified and only passed because we
had COVID nineteen. Oh my god, we're in a pandemic.

(09:08):
We're all gonna die. So you made that argument, your
bill passed, you waive subsidies, you knew it was gonna end,
And now what we're taking healthcare away from people. Now
you're the one that had the cap in there in
the first place. For the subsidies sixty two to five.
If you make more than four hundred percent of poverty
you got you're on your own. You got to pay
the premium. Welcome to the reality of the legislation that

(09:29):
they were responsible for passing.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Now it's cruel.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
So if you keep out the whole illegal immigrants getting
coverage part of this, you realize this is something that
the Democrats set up and given it's like an eighty
twenty issue, the Republicans being on the eighty percent side.
In so far as the American people are concerned about
stuff and things going to illegal immigrants, like for example, healthcare,

(09:57):
we find out that yeah, in fact, illegal immigrants are
indeed getting healthcare. Chucky Schumer said yesterday, Donald trouble. The
Republicans have burrowed us into a shutdown because they refused
to protect Americans' health care.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Wait a second, Americans healthcare.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And that's what brought me to the point about wait
to say, your own original supplement point was to get
us through COVID with an end date of counter year
twenty twenty five subsidies and you knew it. So Republicans
haven't barreled us into a shut down. In fact, if
you had just gone on ahead and side onto the
Continuing Resolution, you'd be continuing to fund the government at
the current level, which is outlandish. That's why Senator Paul

(10:40):
said no on that. That's why Congressman Massey said no
to the earlier Continuing resolution. I want cuts. This does
not cut. It stays at the Democrats level of funding.
Why would they be upset about that protect Americans healthcare?
If you were thinking that the subsidientes are going to
protect Americans healthcare, why.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Did you put an end date on them.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's clear that the way out of this shutdown is
to sit down and negotiate with Democrats to address the
looming healthcare crisis that faces tens of millions of American families. Well,
I don't think Obamacare alleviated the pain of the healthcare crisis.
The healthcare crisis can be described as a crisis because
the cost of medicine has gone through the blank and
ruth most notably because the government keeps patting the money

(11:27):
that keeps guaranteeing payment these Oh my god, there's so
much fraud, waste and abuse, and so much of the
scales tipped to the hospitals and the providers. It's what
it's all about. So whether there's a fix for the
overall cost of medicine remains to be seen. But this
is not a healthcare crisis that involves these subsidies. And

(11:52):
Jade Vance wanted this out yesterday quite clearly. Fans pointing
out that the Democrats want to reinstate the Biden era
federal funding for emergency healthcare for illegal immigrants. Wait a second,
that's not in there, is it, Yeah, Vance said, regarding
the Democrats. They Democrats say, we're not actually trying to

(12:13):
give health care benefits to illegal aliens. And here's why
that's not true. He pulled out the exhibits two Biden
era programs quote that explicitly gave the taxpayer health care
money to illegal immigrants or aliens, he used, that were
turned off when President Trump took office in January. The
first a Biden era program provided illegal immigrants emergency healthcare

(12:35):
and hospitals. Vance pointed out, we turned off that fund
and because of course, we want American citizens to benefit
from those hospital services, not to be taxed, and they
have those hospital services go to illegal aliens. President Trump's
Big Beautiful Bill tightened up who could receive federal payment
for emergency treatment, producing the federal match for emergency only

(12:59):
cover bridge definitional issue right there. Point second Biden era program,
the Vans brought up, gave mass parole to millions of
illegal aliens, simultaneously making paroleis eligible for drumroll, maestro, taxpayer
funded healthcare, pourted out. The Big Beautiful Bill removed paroles

(13:20):
from eligibility for taxpayer subsidized credits that were once provided
under the Affordable Care Act by redefining who is and
quote eligible alien, you reminded, folks, And the one Big
Beautiful Bill, President Trump and Congressional Republicans turned off the
money to healthcare funding illegal aliens. Now, he pointed out,

(13:41):
the Democrats want to turn it back on the first
thing that they put out to reopen the government. He said,
they actually turned that money for healthcare benefits for illegal
aliens back on, and they showed the exhibits, specifically, the
language from the Democrats continuing resolutions did exactly that he

(14:03):
pouted out. So it's not something we made up, it's
not a talking point.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's in the.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Text of the bill they initially gave us to reopen
the government. It's preposters for Democrats that are run away
from it now right, and Rokanna even admitted it. He
was in an interview with Maria Barto Roma. As for healthcare,
he said it was a pivoting question, one from about
the filibuster and a second part of the question regarding

(14:31):
the pre COVID spending levels. As for healthcare. The reality
is they're not being honest, meaning the Republicans, the amount
of money that actually is going toward people who are
undocumented illegal aliens. It's such a small portion of the
Medicaid cuts or the Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
If at all.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
All.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So it's just a small portion, a small portion of
hundreds of billions of dollars, a small portion, which that
statement in and of itself admits that this is a reality,
that illegal aliens are getting medical care. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
five point twenty right now, Ed, I'll get your call
just a second. Went a little long winded, as I

(15:17):
am wont to do most notedly in the five o'clock
I will be right back.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know, Pension Corporation of America's been CD talk station.
Straight to the phones, I go and obviously long winded
in the last segment. Let's see what Ed's got to
say this morning, Ed, thanks for calling. Happy Friday, Eve. Hey,
it's Ted, not Oh sorry. All I can do is
read the call scream it's okay.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Hey, Yeah. I would just like to see President Trump say, hey,
since the government has already shut down, quit worrying about
a continuing resolution and get started on your twelve appropriations
bills and we'll sign them in long get the government
back to work.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, that's actually Ted, that's actually a good point. What's
stopping them other than the cold, poor holiday today? What's
stopping them from while the government is shut down from
doing the work on the twelve appropriation bills, which would
end the entire problem, right, right, But.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Want to do that, Well, maybe we're l have more
money to float and go wherever.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
They want to go.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, and you can expect that when they pass the
twelve appropriation bills that they do. It's an excellent point ed.
I appreciate that you should offer them strategic advice. Oh,
they're making the most of this though. I got a
big kick out of the Officer management budget. They put
eighteen billion dollars in New York City infrastructure projects on hold.

(16:38):
Because of this, roughly eighteen billion dollars in New York
City infrastructure projects have been put on hold to ensure
funding is not flowing based upon unconstitutional DEI principles. Now
you think, well, wait a minute, that's a separate argument.
We don't need a shutdown to shut off the eighteen
billion dollars. The reason it's being shut offs because unconstitutional
DEI principles built into the con tracts that are building

(17:00):
the eighteen billion dollars worth of infrastructure in New York City.
So a legal challenge. Department of Transportation released a statement
noting that the Department has issued an interim final rule
barring race and sex based contracting requirements and federal grants.

(17:21):
Subsidizing infrastructure contracts with taxpayer dollars based on discriminatory principles
is unconstitutional, counter to civil rights laws, in a waste
of taxpayer resources, so said Secretary Shohn Duffy. So until
the US Department of Transportation's administrative review of these practices

(17:42):
is complete, the money's been put on hold. So they're
doing an administrative review of the legality of the contractual
language in these eighteen billion dollars worth of projects. Do
you know what the government shutdown did. It stopped the
administrative review process from moving forward, So the funds will

(18:04):
remain on hold as long as the government shuts down.
Sorry sucks to be you New York City contractors who
are doing this work, contractors who are not obligated to
be repaid for the funds lost during the government shutdown,
unlike the federal workers, who under a twenty nineteen law
will guarantee get their payback when they come back to

(18:24):
work when the government reopens. I thought that was really funny.
So the Democrats had put themselves in a lurch. The
shutdown freezes the administrative review process five twenties. I think
that's hilarious local stories or phone calls coming up. It's
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(19:06):
great information about the Claremont County Veteran Services, Americans for
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I Heart media apps. You can listen to the content
wherever you happen to be with your smart device. Thank god,
I got my phone back yesterday.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
We went out a phone, but went through the process
and Steve in Punjab helped me out.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
He was great.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I never had a better customer service experience getting that
phone re launched and I'm serious about that. I was
really my mind was blown that it worked out so well.
But that's just me glad I got the phone back.
So apologies to everybody who sent me text messages and
other calls yesterday. I got your messages this morning or
last evening. Tom, Welcome to the show. Thanks for calling.
As always, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
I guess your earphone was part of the government shutdown.
Maybe maybe partial. Sounds like you might be being affected
by the shutdown.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
No, I I'm impacted by the fact that everything's got
a built in self destruct mechanism. In this particular case,
my brand blank and new phone, it was only three
months old, would not charge in under any circumstance, wireless, wired,
five different chargers, everything. It wouldn't charge. It's dead. It's
no good, it's only three months old. So I got
a new one insure world problems. Right, Oh, totally totally.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Hey, In honor of the of the shutdown, I'd like
to move away from politics at the beginning of this
and then maybe ease back into it at the end.
A couple of local heavyweights, if you will, just joined forces.
And unbeknownst to me, this is something that is seasonal.
So there's a local chili place that puts its flavor

(20:49):
in a local ice cream.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I tasted it for the first time yesterday. That's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
You talking about me too, And I was like, I
don't think. I don't think I like that.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
No, I don't want to even try that. And it
tastes like pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Pie with with oyster crackers oyster go.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah, you're you're stealing my thunder on that, but I
still would. Yeah, I was in.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
I was in.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
I was in the ice cream place up up but
h up at Fairfield and taste it creators give them
credit what I'm I don't know which which, uh which
establishments It's okay.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
To mention, it's a fact, Skyline ice Cream, Skyline chili flavor.
It tastes like pumpkin pie with oyster crackers in it.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, I was not.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah, that's a little that's a slightly different twist than
what I was thinking. But it was offered to me,
and I'm like, I only I've heard about it a
couple of days ago, and apparently this is seasonal and
uh so I I tried it and I wouldn't choose it. No,
it's not terrible but I wouldn't. I wouldn't pick it.
I get my my three day banana split, and I

(22:01):
got my flavors that I liked and all that, but okay,
that's yours. I'm more of an organ strawberry, uh double chocolate.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Brown, with the exception maybe of the Skyline Chili. I'm
not a fan, I said, with the exception of that
one flavor. I mean, if it's Greater's ice cream, you're
in the best possible place in the world for ice cream.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
I agree. I agree that that you and I will
definitely agree on all day. But to kinda to kind
of go over to swing back to politics a little bit,
there are there are flavors of ice cream that I
just absolutely will not eat and no offense to anyone
out there, but I don't do anything with pecan's in it.
Butter pecans is not something that I would eat. And

(22:46):
if you told me I had to have one ice
cream and it was Skyline Chili flavored ice cream or
butter pecan, I would pick the Skyline Chili one if
I had to. And it's sort of like if I
had a Rhino up against the Democrat to vote, I've
got I gotta pick the Rhino. I don't want to,
but I kind of have to. I know, you know,

(23:07):
you got it. It's better than having a Democrat in there.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know what I'm saying that, Well, okay, I'm speaking
to Let me speak to Rick Herron because he's got
to send me an email. Get involved in Central Committee.
If you want to keep rhinos from running for office,
get on Central Committee. There, Rick, I covered you man.
You don't have to send me the email and that.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
And that's why I'm bringing this up now. As we
approach another election season and we get primaries, first, people
pay attention to who we're putting on the ballot, because
we are. We get to decide who's going to run
against these Democrats. And so if you're not happy with
the Rhinos that, don't vote for him when it comes
tired for primary. And if you're somebody who's got some

(23:49):
great ideas and you're sick and tired of it and
you got some free time on your hands and you
want to jump into that cess pool of politics, you know, hey,
we need you, We need you to get in there
and do that. So, uh, don't vote for rhinos. Let's
get rid of them. Let's get some conservative Cisco minded
people in there, and and please don't vote Democrats. Have

(24:10):
a great day, bright jeers.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Wisely, we got time for another one, Joseph, real fast.
Let's take Bobby. Bobby, welcome back to the Morning Show,
and Happy Friday Eve.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Happy Happy Eve, my brother. Keep the shut down gold
until the midterms. Blame the Democrats on everything. They are
the ones that calls all this. They're the ones that
are causing all the difficulties to live.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Blame them.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Keep it shut down for at least six weeks.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know what, Bobby, I think that's what's happening right now. Now,
about three years ago, I would have woken up to
the headlines Republicans, you Republican enviromer right, Republicans are responsible
for the shutdown. This is a Republican issue. Uh don't
see much of that going on right now, to be
honest with you, Bobby, And that's kind of what we've
been anticipating. I had this conversation with officials and others.

(25:01):
My observation being, you know, the Democrats don't no longer
have that ominous voice that was mainstream media, legacy media
that only people listen to. Now we've got so many
other options for news and presentations. It's like, you know,
Charlie Kirk, look at it from this perspective, look at
it from the other perspective. There's all that out there
for us to absorb. So we shun this, this univoice

(25:24):
that the mainstream media offered, always blaming Republicans for literally
every problem in the world. I don't see that this
morning that much. I really don't, I mean, And the
obvious point being, yes, the Democrats are trying to reinstate
some healthcare benefits for illegal immigrants, not a popular thing
in a world of finite amount of dollars where you
have to run a printing press to pay for the

(25:44):
stuff that we've already bought. Then you got the idea
that people making four hundred over four hundred percent of
poverty level, we're getting subsidies. Maybe you think that that
wasn't appropriate, but you're not cutting them off out in
the wind. This is the way the Democrats wrote the
subsidy bill. This is them. They put a finite date
on it, so they own the ending of the subsidies

(26:07):
because that's what got passed in the law period. And
of story, we're all done right, right, bodying the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
They're no good.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
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(27:59):
to mention the fact that Holly was there and she
actually spoke to the crowd. Holly, the woman that was
a victim of that brutal beat down in downtown Cincinnati.
She is such a wonderfully nice lady. Throw into that
position and she's more than willing to talk about it,
and the hope that her her issues and what she
went through will bring about some measure of reform in
law enforcement the city of Cincinnati. That's all she's fighting for,

(28:21):
So her tragedy hopefully will inure to the benefit of
the residence of the City of Cincinnati. So, Holly, if
you're out there, awesome meeting you, Thank you, and I
appreciate your willingness to return to the fifty five care
See Morning show maybe in the event that I have
to have purvol reaches out to you or something magical
like that. Anyway, it's go to the funds to what
Patrick's got Jay, hang on your next Patrick, Welcome to
the show. Thanks for calling today.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Hey Brian, good morning.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Well.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
I wanted to start off by saying that, you know,
I really appreciate your show first and foremost because of
the dialogue that you engage in with other people, even
the ones that don't agree with you. And this kind
of hanging backs into my next point is that I
saw I ended up somehow ending up into a Facebook

(29:07):
group that was the uh the MAGA group, and a
woman can there and she identified herself as a far
left extremist and she said, I wanted to learn about
the MAGA group. And she says, you know, I believe
in less government. I believe or no government, no kings,
no billionaires, no blah blah blah. The planet belongs to

(29:29):
everybody and that everybody should just be a nomad and
build a house, and you know, everything has a right
to live on this planet. A pug of leaf, a tree. Well,
you know, some of the people in the group, and
it really bothered me, you know, because they claimed to
be Charlie Kirk advocates and they just tore into this
one that just were identifying as a far left extremist.

(29:51):
And it really bothered me because I mean, you know,
you see the the way that you know, just as
human beings, that we are talking to each other, yep,
and it's just it's becoming disgusting.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And you do that it's a missed opportunity for you
to make some inroads into maybe a deranged leftist mindset.
Don't attack them, do what Charlie Kirk and approach them
with open mind. And wait a second, have you considered
your position and you know, relative to fill in the black,
I mean, that's an opportunity missed. By using venomin and

(30:24):
attacking someone, you alienate them and you put them more
firmly on the grounds that they approached you with, which
is that left wing ideology. You know, you're met with
an air in violence. Why would I want to embrace
MAGA if I just get yelled at and told them
and more on an idiot, you don't do it that way.
It's a good point, man.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
And one of the things that I had mentioned to
her was that you know, it's like, look, why your
ideas are noble. The problem with that is that all
men and women were not created equal, as much as
we like to believe that idea, because you know, all
men and women are not created with the same ability

(31:02):
and the same level of intelligence clearly that others are.
So you know, and I when I told her, I
was like, you know, when you talk about wanting to
build a house out in the middle of nowhere, and
you know that this is the way everybody should live,
I said, you know, logically speaking, you're talking out of
both sides of your mouth, because you can't say the

(31:24):
planet is for everyone, because to build a house takes materials,
so you're depriving the planet of the materials in you
yourself are being greedy by taking the materials that you
say that are supposed to be here on the planet.
The same way with eating. You have to take something
from the planet to sustain yourself, whether it be a bug,

(31:46):
a leaf of you know, bark, whatever it is you
decide to eat, you know, even skyline flavored gray. I
couldn't resist, but yeah, so yeah, it's but you know
it was. It was a friendly dialogue. And I think
that you know on you know especially, I know I

(32:08):
direct this more for the MAGA crowd than anything. Don't
advocate that you're a Charlie Kirk, you know, inter waving
person and then go around and do the very opposite
of what Charlie Kirk is because you are distorting your
memory his memory anymore than, you know than destroying a vigil.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Good. Good for you fast.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
Everybody needs to take a good, hard look in the
merit themselves first.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Have a good day.

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Speaker 9 (35:12):
Hey, good morning, Brian, Happy day two of independence. I did,
I did some mass. And if we can keep this
trend going for let's see three thousand, I have one
hundred and ninety eight more days. Let's say if we
keep this one for it, if we can shut the
government down for ten years, that'll give us seventeen trillion

(35:35):
dollars of discretionary spending savings with no impact to our lives.
We can pay off half the debt, Brian, if we
keep the government shut down for ten years, is what I'm.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Trying to say.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
And if that goes well, maybe.

Speaker 9 (35:46):
We could go for the next ten another ten years,
and twenty years from now we could pay off the
debt by keeping the discretionary spending at bay.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Well.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't know how you crunch the numbers. I do
have to observe one thing. I do want, at least
my American military friends to get a pay check.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
They don't make a whole lot of money to start with,
so they have to go with that discretionary, right.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
So it's not discretionary, that's mandatory.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
But based on the twenty nineteen law, everyone who is
the government employees on who's laid off during the shut
then is going to get their salary back. So I
don't know if you the money savings includes repaying all
the outstanding salary obligations that we will still owe.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
It does okay? All right?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
Fair? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (36:28):
Because the dirty little truth is that there is very
little in the budget. I think that the numbers yesterday
was something like it's twenty eighty percent of it's mandatory.
We only have twenty percent of it this discretionary, which
is why it's going to take twenty years to keep
this thing shut down to pay off the national debt.
But I can't think of a better thing to do
than to the people that cause.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
It keep it shut down.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
And speaking of causing things, and you know, the Central
Committee is going to be our salvation. The Central Committee,
as far as I'm concerned, is the cause and the
incubator for rhinos. They gave us eight years of John
Kasik followed by eight years of the Wine, COVID shutdown,

(37:10):
worst state in the country with medicaid fraud. They launch
of doctor Amy Acton's political career, who's going to now
run for governor, came up under thewine. We had Larry Householder,
that was a winner. We had eight hundred six, six
hundred and sixty million dollars to the Browns for nothing.
We have thirty five percent increase in Medicaid over the

(37:32):
past ten years with no population growth in this state.
And all of these good damn decisions are coming out
of Central Committee. And when you look up Central Committee,
which is hard to find but I found it, you
wouldn't believe how many husband and wife combinations are on
Central Committee, which I find statistically very significant that there
could be that many husband and wife both are qualified

(37:53):
to be sitting on Central Committee. This to me looks
like what Rush Limbaugh used to call the check pants
country club crowd. And my question is, before nineteen eighty five,
there was no Central Committee. We don't need communists making
decisions and guiding the party and vetting candidates and saying, here, Ohio,

(38:13):
choose one of these five people. If you ever thought
and you take a look at your crowd and say,
who in the world would have selected these five losers?
I could have done better just randomly choosing out of
the phone book. That's Central Committee. So let's let's give
them the credit that they're due. That they have been
growing rhinos in Ohio. As I've said before, the only

(38:34):
thing Ohio can grow better than corner is rhinos. Right,
And I would love to see the trend of Central Committee.
And Central Committee likes it this way. They are the
birthplace of rhinos.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Always says you run for Central Committee, don't let it
be run by the ones that are hands selected by
maybe a bunch of un Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
Yeah, So the hundreds of people that are in there
that we're going to get in there and overthrow. And
I got a better idea, Rick, tear the damn thing down.
It didn't exist until nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Why do we need it?

Speaker 9 (39:04):
That's what I would do if I got on Central Committee.
I try to hallow it.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Out, all right, So right then it becomes anybody can
run then, right?

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Correct? What's wrong with that?

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Is that not the country? Is that not the construct
of this country?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
That anybody can run? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, I don't fond the fault in having a no
gatekeeper in terms of who can and is qualified to
run or not.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
The Central Committee has the power to tell you you're not
allowed to run. I mean, it's just is the form
of a Republican Party endorsement, and that's their purpose.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, that's what their purpose is.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Brother.

Speaker 9 (39:40):
They are the vetting system. Yeah, they are the super
delegates like the Democrats have. They're the doorkeeper. And if
you don't, if you're not rhino enough, you're not going
to get anywhere.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
So shut it down.

Speaker 9 (39:52):
It didn't exist still in nineteen eighty five. What was
the problem that was solved by bringing on Central Committee?
And a Central Committee member are out here and Alex
Strattafilo's won. So Alex, why don't you come on and
tell us you know how Central Committee works, and let's
pull the let's let's pull the shades back, let's shine
some light on it. And I would love to hear
some people from Central Committee to get on talk to

(40:15):
us all and tell us about everything, all the good
stuff you've done, and let's talk about the track record
with Ohio Republicans.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, you know, Jay, I well know their rhinos. I
welcome that opportunity. You know I'm listening. I'm an open
book in terms of subject matter, and I think that's
a valuable, insightful conversation. Hell, maybe one of the Central
Committee folks will be able to make convince you that
it's the right thing. They got to come on here
and defend themselves. I'm just going to leave your idea
floating out there as a legitimate concept, as a legitimate possibility.

Speaker 9 (40:43):
Defend their track records.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
What I want to hear.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
That's such a damn good idea.

Speaker 9 (40:46):
Defend their track record in the past twenty years Kasik
and the Wine administrations and all the damages come.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Out of that.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I would love to hear it.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
And so we.

Speaker 9 (40:56):
Don't want to vote anymore rhinos. We don't want Seentral Committee.
But whatever you do, your runner, don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Have a good day.

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(42:08):
Lunch yesterday. To all those who made it, I had
a fantastic time. I hope you did as well. It
was outstanding. Got to hear from a lot of folks
running for office in the city of Cincinnati, including Corey
Bowman who spoke to the crowd, Christopher Smithman who spoke
at link to the crowd. He does that, Steve Gooden
lives keating, Betsy Sunneman. We heard a few words from
Holly who got the beat down. What a wonderful lady
she is, and of course maybe not, of course, but

(42:29):
I did offer her the opportunity to come back on
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to take me up on that offer. And she knows
how to reach Joe Strecker, executive producer to line that up.
So if any further developments how she's doing, maybe aftab
Purvol will actually reach out to her. Don't hold your
breath regardless, Holly was there yesterday, and thank you Holly.
If you're listening. It was wonderful meeting you. Five one

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three seven fifty eight hundred eight two three talk punt
five fifty on AT and T phones to see what
Jeff's got before we move forward. Jeff, thanks for calling
this morning. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
It's October.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Halloween's coming up.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
What was that?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
It's October Halloween's coming up?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh oh oh okay, I didn't know which direction you
were going, so you kind of caught me off guard
on that one. Yeah, a student observation there, Jeff, I
wanted to.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Change gears on you. Okay, you did. Let's keep it positive.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
Charles Schultz seventy years ago penned his first cartoon.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I was this today the anniversary?

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
How about that fun fact?

Speaker 6 (43:32):
I was expecting a candy corn. All I got was
a rock.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
You taking me down memory lane here, Jeff. No no
politics of Jeff this morning. We're just going to walk
down memory lane with Charles Schultz. Yes, And of course
that allows me to mention you know what else is
coming up. It's almost going to be here in a
matter of seconds. That's Christmas.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Nineteen sixty five, Charlie Brown's Christmas came out one of
the most delightful and always watch it every single year,
even at now age sixty. I guarantee you I'm gonna
cue it up at Christmas time because that's what we
do at Christmas time. To Thomas Stoushold, yeah, I love that,
and thanks Jeff. I wanted to related to nothing like

(44:14):
the government shut down or anything. I saw this interesting
column from John Stossel, and I think he made some
awesome points. And I think we've lost sight of what's
important and what's not especially young people. I think they
have never experienced, you know, the pain, and I can
use and we'll cite as an illustration of the pain
because everyone's screaming about not being able to afford a home,

(44:37):
not being able to afford a car. Oh my god.
You know, young people are suffering now. And that's what
he writes, and we dive on into this. Have you
ever heard a young people suffer now? John Stossel writes,
Scroll TikTok Instagram. You see the same message young people
today can't get ahead. One Popular Meanings says that when
baby boomers like me, John Stossel or me, I'm a
little younger than a baby boomer with damn close. But

(45:00):
I remember, this is the point that I could make
when a baby were like me, were young, a family
could own a home, a car, and send their kids
to college, all on one income. So he consulted with
an economists named Norbat Mitchell, who points out, in his
words Norm Mitchell's that's a fantasy. We are much better
off than we were. And he talks about a video

(45:22):
that John Stossley put together looking at each individual mean
then he starts out with the one suggesting that long
time ago a family could own a home. On social media,
many young people say things like most people don't live
in a house because it's too expensive. Yes, homes cost
more now, but census data show that more Americans own

(45:43):
their own homes than when he was young. Again, that
rewind about thirty years, and today's homes, here's a great point,
are much bigger and twice as likely to have central
dishwasher or central air dishwashers, garbage disposals.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Go on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Compare the house that you were member as a kid,
and I think of my grandfather, my grandpa marsh mom's
mom's dad, or I think of my wife and the
tiny house that she grew up with. I tried to
calculate square feet of my wife's childhood home her dad
built with his own hands. I was hard pressed to
find a thousand square feet, and I thought of my

(46:20):
grandfather's home on Cooper Drive in Lexington, Kentucky, where I
was also hard pressed to come up with a little
bit more than a thousand feet. I would guess that
cous came into about twelve hundred square feet. My mom
and her three brothers all grew up, and my wife
and her three siblings all grew up in that tiny
little house, and they turned out great. Expectations have increased.

(46:42):
Oh I'm not going to buy a house that doesn't
have fill in the blank. I won five thousand square feet.
Whatever we want more now, Fossil points out, also, young
people can't afford now more.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Now you're rites. Today.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Americans actually spend a smaller percentage of our money on food, clothing,
and housing than we used to, according to Bureful Statistic survey,
and he cites the data the economist Mitchell. We have
a lot more things and we don't have to work
as hard to get them. Now it's the norm to
go out for dinner. Another great point. We never went
out to do well, rarely went out to dinner. It

(47:17):
was a special treat going out to dinner. You know,
Mom was in the kitchen, she was cooking dinner. That's
what we ate every night. And oh my god, if
we got to go to Marty's tiny cove when I
was a little kid once every five months or something,
that was a huge treat. Good point. He says, when
I was young, few people went out to dinner.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Few people flew places for vacation. They didn't have the money.
And flying happened to have cost it a lot more
back when I was young, When Stossel was young, adjusted
for inflation, across country flight cost about one thousand dollars.
Now it's about three hundred. Jay Ratliff could chime in
on this this morning, but he's not here. He also
points out something that a lived experience I had. People

(48:02):
did not just go on vacation. They did not fly
all across the country. I remember the twelve hour trip
to Florida. When we went to Florida, you dreau and
we always didn't go on vacation. I thought people go
on vacations When I was a kid was a rather
unusual concept, and I grew up in a really nice neighborhood,
white privilege whatever. But people didn't pack up and leave

(48:25):
for a couple of weeks. And it continues, but the
popular narrative circulates. It's part of the progressives campaign for socialism.
They tell young people not only does capitalism foster greed, inequality,
et cetera, but it doesn't even deliver the goods. Call
me a business school professor, some guy named Jeremy Nay
tells me, quote, the game changed on our younger generations.

(48:48):
Hard work alone is not enough because the deck is
stacked against so many folks. Well, Mitchell the economist replies, Uh,
the idea that nobody had to work hard, that everybody
had job security is ab absolutely ridiculous. That my dad
would have laughed at that and should have income is
definitely higher jobs and more plentiful opportunities are more plentiful.

(49:08):
Good point, because unemployment rate right now is a full
employment it's at four point three percent. When do you
remember that hanging around for years and years like it
currently has. I remember interest rates under the Carter administration.
Thankfully I wasn't in the home buying market at that time,
but then nobody else could be. It was eighteen plus
percent interest rates. How could you buy a house? I

(49:30):
mean it's six percent now. People only now just sticking
their toe back in the water of considering buying a
house because six percent seems well within reach. Double it
and see how things are. Gen Z overall, he says,
is doing better than young people once did. A typical
twenty five year old gen Z has the annual housecome

(49:51):
income that's fifty percent above the baby boomers. On the
meme claiming that when I was young, a family could
afford to send their kids to college, he says, well, yeah,
some could. Adjusted for inflation. In nineteen sixty three, college
tuition was ten thousand, five hundred dollars versus the right
at forty thousand dollars it is now. But the counterpoint

(50:15):
then most people didn't go to college. Roughly half the
labor force didn't even finish high school. There were jobs
in the trades back then. Magically those disappeared when we
offshored all of our manufacturing to China. I interject, and
finally he says, yes, it's true a family could own
a car, but it wasn't anything like today's cars. Amen,

(50:37):
it wasn't as safe as comfortable. It didn't break down sooner.
It did break down sooner back those days. Today's cars
last more than twice as long as cars did back then.
They also were packed full of fun features mandated by
the federal government, emergency brakes, frere cameras. I mean, we
could go on and on and on. Why cars are
that much more expensive now than they used to be? So,

(51:01):
he continues, a lot of people spread misinformation about today's
generation being worse off than they clearly when they're clearly
so much better off. Think of all the stuff and
things we've gotten technology today. Politically, it slays, points out
the economists, it makes really really easy for a politician
to say, I'm going to fix it. Maybe that's why
President Donald Trump campaign saying we didn't have a great country.

(51:22):
We don't have a great country anymore. We're going back
to the old days. The economists says, we always have
a tendency to believe in the things that are wrong
and that they are bad. That's unfortunate because overall most
people have been doing much better. The internet memes should
really say, and this is a great conclusion. Once upon

(51:44):
a time a family who rarely ate out or flew
anywhere could afford a smaller home, a lousy car, and
they didn't send their kids to college, all in one income.
Excellent point. And when I was looking at this, I
was thinking all the other things that we think we
must have that cost a little bit here and a

(52:07):
little bit there. All the fee for I gotta have
internet connection, internet access. There's a fee. I've got to
have the Netflix subscription. There's another twelve bucks a month.
I gotta have this. I gotta have that. I gotta
have my smart device coming into a thousand plus dollars.
I gotta pay my Verizon bill coming in at whatever
that happens to me every month. Every little bit of
modern technology and all these other stuff and things that
we become accustomed to and think we must have to

(52:29):
live our lives are whittling away at our income. And
then let's pivot over just a moment in time, because
I got to take a break and then get Jeff's call.
The cost of energy. Who's driven that up? If you've
got one of these homes, you got to heat it
in air conditioning, if you have an HVAC system, but
electricity has gone through the roof, thank you for global
warming and a green new agenda that has literally taken

(52:51):
the idea of efficient abundant energy generation and throwing it
out the window in favor of wind and solar and
much bigger energy bill that is also whittling away at
your income. Do I need to go down the road
of how much insurance is these days? Six seventeen?

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Right now?

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I'm pretty good, pretty good Friday Eve. Manros Friday.

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So I'm in a good mood.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
Yes, and unfortunately and I'm hitting the road trip for work.
But anyway, I just wanted to talk. I'm a I'm
a younger millennial born in ninety three, and I've always
been on the on the very fortunate side of being
able to purchase a house when I was twenty two.
Good rolling that equity, Yeah, rolling that equity to the
next one now have rental houses. But you know, I

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was listening to your conversation earlier, and I just I
really do feel for this younger generation who's gotten to
the game a little late. And you know, as much
as I want to blame my peers, but I think
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this country. And what I keep hearing, and I hate
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or gen zs now.

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But what I hear is, you know, we had it worse.

Speaker 7 (56:23):
You know, you guys are taking it easy or you
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ourselves to have the highest standard of living. And I
really think this new generation is unfortunately not going to
fare as well as their previous generation. And that's the
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how to do it. I want to fix it, and
maybe you or some viewers have some better ideas on
how to do just that.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I mean, I just you reflect back on you know,
my grandparents having to live through the Great Depression. They
had it terrible and they managed to survive, and I
think actually built character. You know, they might just think
of my grandmother when I think about the Great Depression.
My grandmother was so frugal, and she grew up on
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in Angellico, Tennessee. Go ahead, look it up. See and
things have really haven't improved much since then. But then
the Depression on top of it. I remember her talking about,
you know just how I mean at Christmas time she
was lucky if she got a brazil nut singular that
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if she was so happy and always in a great mood.
She she appreciated everything that that that God, that or
life gave her because she went through a period of
time when they literally had nothing at all. That's a
character builder, man. So it's a question of perspective where
things better? Are things better now than they were in
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Liberation Army or SLA and the weather underground, putting bombs
in the Senate bathroom, blowing things up in Chicago, which
the weather underground did, killing people, murdering police officers. We
didn't have the internet back then, but man, things were terrible.
The Watts riots, Vietnam protests, Kent State shootings and beatdowns.
People thought the world was falling apart back then. The

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Democratic National Convention beat down from the police in Chicago.
Draw your conclusions whether they did the right thing or not.
But things were very, very bad in the sixties. And
then go back to the seventies with stagflation and eighteen
plus percent interest rates. Nobody had a job. There was
lines around the corner to get your gas tank filled.
Were things better back then?

Speaker 6 (58:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
You just kind of lose sight of all the challenges
and difficulties we faced as a nation. And look where
we are today. I mean, the vast majority of people
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of people have just a constant supply of what I
would argue is still very affordable food. What did gallon
of milk cost you back in the seventies compared today?
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supply chains have improved growing practices, and I know, don't
get me on the road to GMOs and all that,
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We didn't all starve to death. The Malthusians proven wrong.
We're all gonna die. Population is gonna kill us all. No,
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that's a loose definition. When I think of mother, I
don't think of someone like this. Jennifer Edwards Baker, reporting
from Fox nineteen, accused of binding her small children's wrists
with rope and pushing them down a flight of stairs.
This according to newly filed court records, please allegend Affi
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described as a four year old boy and a five
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Investigators determined that she also struck the five year old
with the belt quote numerous times of the belt, causing
serious physical injury, which required her daughter to be admitted
overnight to a hospital. Close quote that's in one of
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at Hamilton County Department of Job and Family Services that
she caused the injuries to the five year old and
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Both her children disclosed that The abuse occurred during forensic
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booked into the Hamilton County Justice Center. Municipal Court Judge
Jackie Ginocchio said or bond at fifty thousand dollars straight,
no ten percent. She's also in a court order to
stay away from the victims, her own children. She's been
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yesterday as part of a plea agreement prosecutors recommend and
he served fifteen months in prison. Hearn waited to contact
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Hearn lived in the home with her body for roughly
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woman's body was severely decomposed by the time the authorities

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visited the home. Hearn initially told the police he hadn't
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Station six forty fifty five krs DE talk station Happy Friday,
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I had a listener to lunch yesterday. The wonderful people
that showed up just was really delightful day, and I
was pleased to see. When he's in town, you can
see him. He's become a regular fixture at the fifty
five KR see listener lunch. Welcome back Mississippi, James, great

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scenior yesterday and your beautiful bride.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
Hey, thank you, doctor Brian.

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I come in peace, love everybody, and there's nothing you
can do about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
It's starting off on the right foot as always, James.

Speaker 14 (01:10:55):
All right, And you know, I'm looking at a pressure
cooker that's beginning to heat up, and it's sort of
like all these different fracture in the Democratic Party.

Speaker 15 (01:11:07):
Republican Party, then we look at the Maga Party, and
then I guess the Rhine Old Party, and I'm seeing
a pickup in white on white crime and all this
splinter maybe because I'm not involved with it, so I'm
just on the outside looking in. And when this white
on white crime happened, it always get framed in an

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innocent weight and I'm like, okay, I'm watching it. Maybe
the people that's in this pressure cooker don't realize what's happening.
I'm just trying to run it up the flag pole,
put a memo out there, it's time to dial it
down some because it seemed like no stone will be

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left unturned, whether it's you know, from that angle, like
I say, being an old black man from the South.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
I've seen depression.

Speaker 16 (01:12:01):
You have.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
No one can deny that your life experience is much
much different than you know today's young people, for example.
That's kind of why I was going off on a
tearabout when you look back and reflect on different times
in the nation's history, things were really terrible or they
were really wonderful. Like James always likes to point out,
depending upon which side you're looking from, that's your six

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in your nine argument when you're driving up on the
six Is it a six or is it a nine
upside down?

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I mean, you got to look at it in a
different ways. So I would argue today is better than before,
but it's worse in some ways, like the level of violence,
the anger that people express sort of out of nowhere.
It's like the conduct cannot be justified. It's like Holly,
who was listening to lunch. No one can justify a
woman she's trying to give aid to a person who's
been injured. Someone out of nowhere just walking up and

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punching her in the face. Where does that come from?
But it's just a reflection of the broader problem and
decay of society with regard to ethics, social norms, what's good,
what's bad, what you can get away with, and what
you can't. So I think you make a good point, James,
you really do, and it's always the case. Thank you
so much for showing up at lunch yesterday. It's always

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a pleasure of having you there, my friend. If you
and your wife have a wonderful day, and I'll look
forward to seeing you maybe next month at the next
listener lunch. Uh if I won three seven, four, nine
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Nobody's perfect. I'm happy with the election, but I'm not
necessarily happy with this development. The United States and Cutter
now I have now entered into an agreement that's comparable
to an Article five NATO defense obligation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Cutter.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Yes, that country in the Middle East security guarantee you
spelled out in this deal was just put on the
website yesterday. The United States shall regard any armed attack
on the territory Cutter, sovereignty or critical infrastructure of Cutter
as a threat to the peace and security of the
United States. An event of such an attack, the United

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States shall take all waffle and appropriate measures, including are
you ready diplomatic, fine, economic, and if necessary, military, to
defend the interest of the United States and of Cutter. Now,
we do have a military base there and we've always
defended it surrounded by Patriot missiles, but those Patriot missiles
aren't used to protect Cutter at large.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
No longer this clear vowel to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Guarantee the security and territorial integrity of the state of
Cutter against external attack. Huh, question Mark, is this at
America first policy providing defense obligations? And I'm trying to
struggle with it's I'm trying to I'm envisioning Ukraine in
many comments on this program, like the Anniel Davis and others,

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we don't have any risk if Ukraine falls, it doesn't
represent a risk to the safety or security the United
States of America. Now, NATO may perceive itself to be
under greater threat from Russia than it currently is now whatever,
have that argument, but it's not the United States. And
if we had one of these agreements similar to an

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Article five agreement with NATO, we be in the middle
of a shooting war with Russia. The other component of
this did they forget when they signed this? And I
know Israel just apologized for bombing Cutter and Dohar, but
I thought that was a rather comical layer to this,
because had Israel launched an attack on Cutter, would we

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be in a shooting war with Iraq or with Israel now?
Because of course Israel did attack them fairly recently. Anyway,
I struggled to come up with a justifiable excuse to
committing a American military lives to defend Cutter. I don't

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mind if you want to engage in diplomac If we
do diplomacy literally everywhere around the globe at all times,
you don't need a specific agreement to engage in diplomacy.
Donald Trump apparently is anointed to be the one who's
going to solve wars and problems. Good, somebody's got to
do it. He's willing to get in there and do it.
How is it the United States is always the arbiter
of global conflict. We've been trying to get peace in
the Middle East now forever. Trump made some success during

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his first term and he's working on it now. Maybe
this is an element of bringing about Abraham Accords to
broader nations around the Middle East. I don't know, but
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in electric capacity that I actually trust and appreciate, Thomas
Massey put a post up yesterday midday. Both parties are ridiculous.
Republicans this is great. Republicans passed a line by line
continuation of Biden's last budget. That's a continuing resolution, including

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sadly Doge identified waste. But Democrats refuse to vote for
Biden's last budget, thereby shutting down the government. It's amazing
contrast when you read it back to back in writing
like that, and then he concludes with I voted nay
when it was for Biden, and I'm nay now, explaining

(01:20:09):
the reason for his vote on the continuing resolution, which
really concerned and shockmany within the Republican Party. So and
further to Mississippi, James point, I saw this video. This
another brutal beatdown. In this particular case, it was a
little gut wrenching. And you know, you think about kids
these days. It's like the world everyone's turned into Happy Gilmore.

(01:20:33):
If you've seen that movie, the character and that it
just becomes unhinged at the least for the smallest reason,
engages in violent screams, shouts yells at people, and is
violent for really no reason, not justifiable. It's comical because
it's a comedy. But I think everyone took that as
a green light to start acting like that out in
the real world. And with young people, they know they're

(01:20:55):
not going to be held accountable in the justice system,
they get a pass for most anything. Anyway, we have
a fourteen year old beat the living hell out of
a sixty six year old usher what is described as
an MBA Young boy concert. This kid's now been charged
with felony assault and justifiably so not identified because of
his age, of course, but the whole thing's on video.

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Thomas schlang Is, this sixty six year old usher working
at the T Mobile Center in Kansas, has happened. I
guess last year. He had just asked the boy to move.
He's an usher. The kid is not in the assigned seat.
Someone else, I guess, wanted to sit in the seat.
They had a ticket for that seat. The kid's in it,

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and in response to him reminding him, listen, you're in
the wrong seat, he just unleashed a violent attack on
this guy, threw him down into his seat and started
beating the crap out of his face. And there's no
justification whatsoever. And there was there was a pastor there,
a local pastor named Robert MacDonald and McDaniel, and he's

(01:22:02):
the one who've actually filmed this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
He said.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
The team freaked out when he was told his ticket
had been didn't match where he was sitting, and that
he immediately just completely lost it. The guy got beat up,
just as said. It's actually kind of sad things got
to this point. Restraint, cooperation and respect are important lessons
to learn, he said, clearly making a great amount of

(01:22:27):
sense that this kid obviously was not taught any of
that growing up. And the weirder thing about it, there
was only one single person amid all of this crowd.
While the guy is getting brutally beaten, only one person
jumped in to try to stop that beating. And it
took a while for this guy to do this. His
name is Antonio Klaytor. He was cited in the article
talked about this. But this unhinged behavior is a genuine

(01:22:51):
problem in the world these days, you know. And we
can blame social media, we can blame this, We can
blame that. I think the blame lays and parents, social media,
not rude behavior or not Hollywood movies like Happy Gilmore
or not. Mom and dad are the ones responsible for
teaching morals, ethics, discipline, restraint, cooperation, and respect. These are

(01:23:12):
things that are sorely needed in our society. Coming up,
Congressman Warren Davidson on the shutdown, among other things, and
Corey Bowman will be in the studio in the eight
o'clock hour. Looking forward to that. I hope you can
stick around for It'll be right back Today's top stories
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Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
It's so No five are fifty five KRSNE talkstation. Great
time to be tuning into the morning show. They think
it's always a good time. But the return of Congressman
Warren Davidson. Welcome back, Congressman Davidson. It's always a real
pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 10 (01:24:02):
Yeah, always an honor.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Thanks for talking, Brian, and I hear your voice so
clearly the world did not end. We're in the middle
of our what second day and a half, two days
into the shutdown. Let me get this straight. The Democrats
are arguing about cutting these healthcare benefits, the subsidies that
flow to folks with Obamacare premiums. So it used to
be sixty four thousand. I believe five hundred dollars was

(01:24:24):
the cutoff. If you made a dollar more than that,
then you got no subsidy. That was in the original
text of the legislation that when they waved the cap
because of COVID nineteen, they passed the bill, the COVID
nineteen bill or whatever the hell it was called, they
got rid of that. So if you made six hundred
thousand dollars, you still be eligible for a subsidy on
an Obamacare plan. Fine, But when that was passed, it

(01:24:46):
had a finite end date, which is the end of
this year. Right, that was what the Democrats pushed through.
Or am I wrong on that reality?

Speaker 10 (01:24:55):
No, You've got it right, And it was because there
was a pandemic. And part of the reason for this
sub city was, well, there's going to be a lot
of extra expenses. You don't want the health insurance companies
to just pass those on to everybody. So if we
pay the money to the health insurance companies, it's supposed
to hold down premiums.

Speaker 5 (01:25:12):
Well, how'd that work out about?

Speaker 10 (01:25:13):
Like Obamacare, premiums kept going up almost vertical the whole time.
Whether you pay the subsidies or not. And you know,
there's been a long offering. Pandemic has been over for
a long time, so it's like, oh, we have to
phase them out. They were phased out. This is the
pandemic has been over. So that's one of the things
they're fighting about. And of course the other one is
undoing you know, the way that we made it hard

(01:25:35):
to have states pay to have illegals selecting medicaid in
other forms where states were bypassing medicaid. Not a big
issue in Ohio because we didn't do that, but states
like California and New York, Illinois they did well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
And you know, it's interesting because Jdvan's pointed it out
and pointed to the legislation that the Democrats prepared which
indeed gave taxpayer health care money to illegal aliens, and
they want to put that back on. So on one thing,
we can argue that Listen, we all knew, we saw
it five years ago during the pandemic that this supplement
was going to end. You wrote it that way. There's

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that and you have that content or that discussion in
the context where no illegal immigrants are getting free medical insurance.
But they've added on this extra layer here in those
states that extended it to illegal immigrants, You and I
are shouldering the burden for that. They shouldn't have been
on it in the first place to begin with, because
they're not in our country legally. So there's a separate

(01:26:33):
argument over here, which I think the Democrats are on
the wrong side. Given the immigration problem we're facing is
kind of an eighty twenty issue, with the Republicans being
on the vast majority percentage side.

Speaker 10 (01:26:44):
Yeah, look, and yeah, I think that's probably right. It's
probably in our district bigger than eighty twenty. Yeah, but
you know a lot of Democrats would agree, like this
is crazy and that's why we didn't do it in Ohio.
But in some states, and you remember the twenty twenty
presidential time where they had still like fifteen candidates on
the stage and you're like, raise your hand if your

(01:27:06):
plan for healthcare would cover health care for illegals. Everybody
raise their hands, and they say, oh, well, this doesn't
do that, and they're like, well, check page fifty seven
in the bill that Chuck Schumer presented to Donald Trump.
He's like, no, no, our demands are written down. I like, okay, well,
they're written down the check Page fifty seven is right there.
They want to undo what we did to make it
hard for states to cover, you know, medicaid for illegals.

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And they say, oh, well, it's illegal to give medicaid federal.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Dollars to illegals.

Speaker 10 (01:27:36):
I'm like, well, it's illegal for the illegals to be here,
but they're here, and you're not supposed to be doing
it in states like California, but you are. And they're saying, oh, well,
we're using state dollars for that, but it's for medicaid,
so we need to count that for our federal match.
What Republicans did is say, no, you can't count that
for federal match. You spend your state dollars, which you
shouldn't do. You're actually an accomplice for illegal immigration. Got

(01:28:00):
to that phase yet, but Tom Homan's actively getting people
out of the country. And as for whether we should
extend the Affordable Care Act subsidies further, I mean, I
don't think we should. Some people think we should, but
that's why we're having the debate on appropriations. And so,
you know, I've got things that I want mostly to
spend less money on, and we're going to have that

(01:28:22):
debate too, But that's what we're doing with the appropriations fight.
The idea that Democrats are going to shut it down
is crazy. And look, we passed a bill in the House.
Simple majority runs the House. A majority of the Senate
actually passed a bill to keep the government open. But
the Senate has a sixty vote rule. So if we
were going on simple majorities, the government would be open
right now, or more open, I guess, because as we

(01:28:44):
can tell, it's actually pretty much open, and it'll.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Be open at the Biden level funding from last year, right,
that's what you voted on.

Speaker 10 (01:28:52):
Look, this is the frustrating thing for us, and we
didn't get our way in March. I mean we we
funded the government at the Obama I mean the Biden
Schumer level, when technically the House had Republicans. But this
was the agreement in the previous presidency. And so we
didn't change anything when Donald Trump became president, except we

(01:29:13):
did pass the big beautiful bill and turn some stuff
off and I'll make the tax cuts permanent. Things like
that give money to secure the border. And they want
to undo some of these things. They even want to
undo the defunding of MPR, and you know, we didn't
accidentally defund MPR.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
We basically said go fund yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
I love that phrase too. By the way, that's great. Well,
let me ask you this specific question because you probably
served your country. You enlisted in the Army and third
Infantry Division, I might point out you also went to
West Point, graduating near the top of your class, so
you served. I'm kind of wondering what the how the
American the active duty service members are going to do
with this shutdown? Well, how is it going to impact

(01:29:51):
my veteran friends? And I also want to know when
you were serving, did you ever go through a shutdown
where your pay was suspended until the shutdown ended?

Speaker 10 (01:30:01):
You know, if we did, I was oblivious to it.
You know, I was like, yeah, I'm just focused on
the mission. You know, at the end of the day,
you're gonna get paid. The frustrating thing is, you know,
you look at the military and go, well, these guys
are essential. Why wouldn't the payroll clerk that cuts the
check to them be essential too? So this is really
frustrating with a lot of things. And so you know,

(01:30:23):
we've got a bill called the Shutdown Prevention Act. It
would close some of those stupid things like that, like, well, okay,
if you're essential enough to be a work, we are
essential enough to get paid. So we're going to take
care of the payroll function for that, and it'll prevent
these sort of shutdown gamesmanship things here at that level,
and you would intentionally turn things off or intentionally turn
them on, otherwise they just kind of continue. So that's

(01:30:47):
why I'm a sponsor of that Shutdown Prevention Act. But yeah,
to my knowledge, we never had this kind of drama,
you know, while I was on active duty, well thankfully.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
And beyond the Yamkapor holiday, the while the government is
shut down and I know representatives and senators continue to
get their paychecks, you know that, could you be working
on the twelve appropriations bills right now? I mean, could
work get done toward that end, which is really what
the CR is supposed to do, by you some time

(01:31:18):
until November so you can iron out the details of
the twelve appropriation bills in regular order?

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
Yeah, I mean, in fact, we are.

Speaker 10 (01:31:25):
I mean we're working on you know, Unfortunately, some of
my colleagues are already working on ways to compromise with
Democrats on these Affordable Care Acts extensions, which is you know, terrible.
You should stop wasting your time on that. Hopefully we
don't have the votes for that nonsense, but or a
speaker that will put such a crazy idea on the floor.
But we've got other provisions that we're working on, the amendments.

Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
And look.

Speaker 10 (01:31:52):
The appropriators, Thomas the chairman, they got all twelve of
the bills through the House Appropriations Committee. We've got i
think four across the floor of the House, but we
got to get the other a across the floor. And look,
occasionally the House will get all of them done. The
Senate hasn't got all their bills done since the nineties.
So the Senate really is the hold up here with

(01:32:13):
a lot of the things broken on appropriations, and that
usually results in some sort of omnibus, cromnabus or continuing resolution.
But in the meantime, you are jockeying for amendments that
you would want to do, and you're working the phones
with colleagues or staffs working to try to collaborate to
get that done.

Speaker 5 (01:32:32):
Those kinds of.

Speaker 10 (01:32:33):
Things are going on right now, and they're going on
kind of in a turbo charge way, because you know,
our phones are busy if people are calling in and
they always are like, well, what's going to happen? Am
I going to get my Social Security check? And yes,
you are.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
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Seven eighteen fifty five KRC Detalk Station, Happy Friday Eve,
Congressman More and Davidson one more segment with him, gonna
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you're gonna be talking about tonight and empower you? The
one day, one vote proposal and to eliminate no excuse
mail in voting. Interesting timing on that, Congressman Davidson. It

(01:35:20):
was widely reported yesterday there's a woman in Maine. They've
got a November fourth election day in Maine as well,
had delivered to her front door a box containing temper
evident packs of fifty ballots, totally two hundred and fifty
what appear to be authentic ballots, filled out and cast
that landed in this one private citizen's front door, and

(01:35:41):
they're suggesting a federal criminal investigation should be launched. There's
a huge problem with dropping off stacks of mail in ballots,
and that's a lot of reason why many people, including Maureen,
I know you're out there, believe that the twenty twenty
election was stolen. How do we address this problem, Congressman Davidson,
considering how much states have control over their own.

Speaker 10 (01:35:59):
Voting, I was told that was illegal and so it
wouldn't happen, you know, just like drugs, you know. So
obviously this kind of stuff does go on. And look,
we were told illegal aliens they'll vote, But we just
found the superintendent of Des Moines Schools is not only
in the United States illegally, and not only didn't have
the academic credentials he said he did, but he was

(01:36:21):
also a registered voter in the state of Maryland and
had a voting record.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
So these kinds of things have gone on.

Speaker 10 (01:36:26):
We need election integrity and for that reason, the House
of Representatives as passed laws that would be binding on
federal elections. So you know, we don't necessarily have a
system where the federal government could say, well, here's how
Ohio has to do their state Supreme court elections, except
to say, you know, we protect civil liberties and things
like that. But when you look at criteria for federal elections,

(01:36:50):
there's a lot that we could do. We've had a
hard time getting over the sixty vote threshold in the Senate,
which is the same struggle we're having, you know, with
keeping the government open. And yes we do have a majority,
but the Senate's still got this sixty vote rule. But
for that, we could be passing election reform, we could
be keeping the government open, and we could do on
a lot of things. Nevertheless, the Senate keeps protecting their

(01:37:13):
sixty vote rule. We keep sending stuff over in the House,
and this is one of those things that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
We could do.

Speaker 10 (01:37:17):
And you know, another one of the things we're going
to talk about tonight, Brian is, yeah, the two hunred
and fiftieth anniversary of the United States of America and
just looking at the legacy of our country, and you know,
there's so many milestones that no other country has been
like America. We're still the greatest country in the world,
and we've not yet made a perfect union, but we've
made it more perfect in some respects and I to say,

(01:37:41):
maybe less perfect in a few other ways.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Well, I know, one of the topics tonight's secure borders,
and obviously it is a profound night and day difference.
It's like somebody flipped the light switch on between the
Biden administration's approach of the southern border, which was, you know,
don't touch it, and Donald Trump, which is the media
shut it down. I mean, the flow of illegal immigrants
in our country has just almost disappeared, at least in
the southern border. I know we have some problems in

(01:38:05):
the north, and that's kind of leading to my question,
where are we in connection with border security? What else
needs to be done considering the Trump success in the
southern border.

Speaker 10 (01:38:17):
Well, I mean, we need a law so that you know,
no no government could actually do what the Biden administration
is doing.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
And in my own opinion, I think we need a you.

Speaker 10 (01:38:26):
Know, charges, we need DOJ to actually bring charges. Alejandro Maorcis,
as a Secretary of Homeland Security, was charged with securing
the border. The laws are already pretty clear, and he
actually spun those on the head. He literally built an
app at Homeland Security to make it easy to you know,
bypass our laws and come here illegally. So to me,

(01:38:50):
that's treason. I think you should be charged. I think
you should go to jail for a long time. And
that's one of the problems. You know, people people do
rightly say, you know, when is somebody going to jail?
And you know, people are going to keep depriving others
of their rights. They're going to abuse the power of
the office until somebody sell to account for it. And
I think there are a lot of those folks that

(01:39:11):
need to be held to account. And I think you know,
that's where people are saying, oh, Trump is weaponizing the government. Well, no,
we had a weaponization committee last Congress because the Bide
administration was weaponizing the government. And so holding those people
to account isn't retribution, it's justice. And you know, even
Google just this past week, you know, they say, yeah,
here's what we were doing because the government told us

(01:39:34):
to do it, right, so we were censoring people.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Well, who's going to be held to account for that?

Speaker 10 (01:39:38):
And I think that's why you know this hopefully the
Tony charges or the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Well, Google may very well be held accountable because by
operating at the behest of the American government, that means
they're inextricably intertwined with the government, meaning they have to
extend First Amendment rights to the people who use their platform,
and by so restricting the speech, they may have committed
a civil rights violation and could be held accountable to
the law suit. So Google might pay the price for
their frank admission that they did just that.

Speaker 10 (01:40:05):
Yeah, and look they say, oh, we're a neutral platform.
Well you're not a neutral platform when you engage in
editorial content. You're acting as a publisher and you're deciding,
you know these things, and you did it really have
to be heats to the government.

Speaker 5 (01:40:18):
So I think, look, you, in my view, I would
work at plea deal with Google.

Speaker 10 (01:40:23):
To out the federal officials who were violating the constitution.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
And you know, these people should go to jail.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Now, one final point for we part company today, Warren Davidson.
The reason the Democrats are so held bent on getting
illegal immigrants in this country and keeping them here is
because it's going to impact the House of Representatives. So
the more warm bodies you have in your state of
your jurisdiction, the more likely it is you're going to
get another representative. We know California is pushing for that
because everybody who has any ability to leave the state

(01:40:52):
has already left. Can we fix that legislatively ignoring the
impediment we have in the Senate with the votes, but
is conceptually, can we do that illegal immigrants, if you're
not here legally in our country, you're not counted for
census purposes, Well.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
You could do it legally.

Speaker 10 (01:41:08):
We've got bills that would simply change the law to
make that clear, and I'm a co sponsor for that.
I am the sponsor of a bill that would amend
the Constitution to basically override the courts.

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
And frankly, the courts could do what they.

Speaker 10 (01:41:20):
Did in Dubbs and say, look, we done messed up.
We haven't really provided the right clarity here on the census.
And so you know, Donald Trump in his first term
tried to get the census done the right way. If
you don't have an honest census, I don't know how
you can have an honest election. Because you know, right now,
the congressional maps are drawn based off of all persons
in the country, whether they're here legally or not, citizens

(01:41:41):
or not. And Democrats are united and saying citizenship is irrelevant.
We just want to count everybody that's here. And you know,
Republicans are united and saying no, citizenship does matter and
we should count citizens. And California would lose like I
don't know, five to seven members of Congress if they
would do that. And they don't just lose them anyway,
They lose them in the sanctuary cities because you know,

(01:42:03):
the rural areas generally aren't over sampled with all this stuff.
If you look, Yeah, Texas and Florida and some other
states would lose representation too. That's why Ohio would probably
gain at least one seat, because we do have some illegals,
but as a proportion compared to other states, it's very small.
So we went from sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Seats to fifteen.

Speaker 10 (01:42:22):
Last time, we would have held held that seat but
for a bad census.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Congress More and Davidson, looking forward to your seminar tonight
again seven pm. You can show up at three hundred
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make sure you register at the website. First, Congress and Davidson,
thanks as always for your time in the program this morning.
Keep up the great work speaking truth to power and
holding the Democrats accountable for their insanity. Enjoy the seminar tonight,

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and I'll look forward to having you back on the
show as soon as we can.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Yeah, anytime. Great to talk with you, Brian, God bless
you and all your listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
It's seven thirty on a Friday Eve.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Happy When to youa Corey Bowman in studio for an
hour in the eight o'clock hour. I do have local stories,
but I'll pivot over to the phone call. Hey, she
heard me say, feel free to call in Maureen. Maureen
my pattern observer, not conspiracy theorists, and Maureen, I know
the topics that just blow your mind. One of them
is unsecure voting and cheating and voting and massive drop

(01:45:23):
offs of ballots under suspicious circumstances. Kind of figured it would.
You might want to give me a call this morning.
Welcome back from you.

Speaker 17 (01:45:31):
Thank you. And by the way, I don't mind being
called a conspiracy theorist. I'm kind of you're proud of it, because, yeah,
keep the bag of honor, because.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
You keep me right.

Speaker 17 (01:45:41):
Magazine's person of the Year is going to be the
conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
I think you're right, But I look back and the
arguments and the exchanges you and I have gotten into
over the years, because you know, I'm a little bit
more of a wait and see. You know, I haven't
gotten all the information. Where in the hell's Maureen coming
up with these conclusions. I don't know what she's reading.
I don't see it. And then it turns out fast
forward about a year, maybe a year and a half,
and you reflect back, it's like, damn, Moreen was right
on that one too.

Speaker 17 (01:46:06):
Yeah, I trust my sources, Yes you do anyway, So
now my most recent source, they keep talking about the
going back in time kind of to the Justice Kavanaugh hearings,
back in That was September of twenty eighteen when Lindsey
Graham interviewed him, and they said, it seemed like kind

(01:46:28):
of at the time, it seemed like a really kind
of weird out there, random question out of nowhere, but
he was questioning him about enemy combatants, and he said specifically,
I kind of have the transcript here. He said, isn't
there a long seated law called Johnson versus Eisenstruger that
might ring a bell with you because I'm not going

(01:46:50):
to play a lawyer on radio, because I'm not, but
I thought this was really interesting. He said, in that
seated law states that American citizens who collaborate with the
enemy have been considered enemy combatants. And Cavin I answered,
he said, yes, they can be. He said they're often
sometimes criminally persecuted, treated in the military sense under Supreme

(01:47:10):
Court precedent. And then Graham said, there is indeed a
Supreme Court decision that said the American citizens who collaborated
with the enemy were tried by the military.

Speaker 6 (01:47:21):
Is that correct?

Speaker 17 (01:47:22):
And he said, yes, it's correct. And he says, so
if anyone doubts that there is a long standing history
of your constitutional rights to follow you where you go.
If you'll leave the country, but you don't have a
constitutional right to turn on your own government collaborate with
the enemy of the nation, you'll be treated differently. And
he says, what's the name of that case, And he
said that was called the Hamdi case. So he said,

(01:47:42):
the bottom line is, I want every citizen to know
you have constitutional rights, but you do not have a
constitutional right to collaborate with the enemy. There is a
body of law, well developed long before nine to eleven
that understates the difference between understood the difference between basic
criminal law and the law of armed conflict. I believe
that's where we are, and that case is going to
come to light as we find out that the election

(01:48:05):
fraud was perpetrated by other countries and facilitated by members
of our government. All right, and that's that's going to
come out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Well, the burning question in my mind as I was
hearing you talk about that is what is and under
what circumstances do we have a declaration of or identification
of quote the enemy close quote Because you know in
this country, I mean, I remember the McCarthy hearings, not
that I remembered them when I was I wasn't alive yet.
But I've reflected back on and I've seen them. We
went after communists in this country. You have a right

(01:48:35):
to be a communist in this country. It's free speech.
It may have been suggested that, no, this is an
agent of the Soviet Union and there are declared enemy.
We weren't at war with them. It was an ideological war.
We're trying to win the hearts and minds of the
world in terms of moving to capitalism versus the perils
and evils of communism or socialism. But you're allowed to
be one. So what is an enemy mean? Is there

(01:48:55):
a declaration of war? The Germans are the enemy in
World War Two?

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
We got a war deck.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
You can't collaborate with the Germans, of the Japanese, of
the Italians.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
I mean, I don't. We're in kind of a gray
area here morning.

Speaker 17 (01:49:07):
But when they interfere with the will of the American
people for a free and fair election, to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Me, that is a criminal crime. Yeah, right, and you
can prosecute them under RICO.

Speaker 17 (01:49:18):
But I see military tribunals coming in our near future.
I told you I spoke with Catherine Herridge at an
event recently. She's award winning journalist and anyway, she used
to work for I don't know which stations, I think
CNN and whatever. But anyway, she got let go because
she was trying to expose the Hunter laptop issue. Anyway,

(01:49:40):
she's been reporting from Guantanamo Bay and she's mentioned that
they're expanding the wing there. They're going to put up
a media center there so that the American people can
witness these military tribunals that are going to happen. So
there is something brewing in the back. I don't know
the specific well.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
I will maybe I won't deny there maybe something brewing,
but you know, there are going to be challenges to it.
And whether or not you can have a military tribunal
over these things, or whether it should be a question
of RICO and criminal law being violated, which would be
handled in a federal court. A lot to unpackage and
deal with there, considering we do have a constitution which

(01:50:19):
may very well protect some of this activity. But if
your stuff in the ballot box, you're breaking a law
that can be prosecuted. We should have seen a lot
more of it. I mean, you go back to all
those you know, videotapes that people dropping off huge stacks
of ballots and states where you're not allowed to hand
in ballots and aren't yours. I mean, it happened a lot.
You've identified a lot of it over the years, still
going on today. Look at Maine in that case I

(01:50:41):
just saw. So you know, can people be held accountable absolutely,
whether or not it's in a military tribunal or in
a court of law, in federal court, that can also
be done. I'd like accountability. I just want to see
how it unfolds. And I don't think it's a guaranteed lock,
because again, what the hell's an enemy? You know, absent
a deckl war, there are a ton of people out

(01:51:01):
there I perceive to be my enemies.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
But there's nothing I can do without it all.

Speaker 17 (01:51:06):
I think it's all going to come out and the
whole Komi thing is gonna unravel. They're going to give
it to us piece by piece so that people can
digest it, and so when it does happen, people are
going to be more on board with the trees and
that's happened against our country.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Fair enough?

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Are marine as always aiety have my popcorn out and
will anxiously await when the facts come out and the
prosecutions begin or don't, as the case may be. Marine
thank God for you. Appreciate your friendship. I really do,
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ANT and T phone. Early in the program, Jay called
in and said, we need to get rid of Central Committee.
I had commented, I hear from Rick Herron all the time,
but Central Committee. He's been on the program before. He's
a real advocate for Central Committee. Jay's point is, get

(01:54:17):
rid of the whole thing. We'd get nothing but rhinos
rhina is Ryan is rhino is over and over again.
Why do we rely on Central Committee to pick our candidates?
They get an endorsement from a bunch of rhinas, that
rhino ends up on the ballot with the endorsement. We
need to go down a different path. So he says,
pull the plug. I kind of figured Rick would be listening.
So let me just here, Jay, if you're out there,
he wants to sign you up for Central Committee. Say

(01:54:42):
thanks me for the show and for me mentioning him,
and he goes on to explain his position. He doesn't
want to get rid of the Central Committee. He thinks
it's a valuable tool. Jay is exactly the kind of
person we need to help us endorse better candidates in
the primary. He writes, politics, I e. Getting your people
in position is not an argument. Getting your people in
position is simple arithmetic. Don't get angry, get an abbocus.

(01:55:06):
We've been trying to become the majority ie arithmetically in
Hamilton County Central Committee since the early eighties. It's a
tough road to hoe. We have had better success in
other counties and recently at the state Central Committee. As
Viva Ramaswami, how ask v v Ramaswami how he was
able to receive the primary endorsement of the State Central
Committee over DeWine's handpicked successor. It wasn't an argument, it

(01:55:29):
was arithmetic. We are making progress, but we need more
foul weather friends like you, Jay said. Even Warren Davidson
was held by the Butler County Central Committee when they
let it be known that they would no longer endorse
John Bayner. As soon as Bahner learned that his Rhino
buddies in Central Committee were no longer the majority arithmetic,
he not only resigned from the speakership but also from
the House. He said he wanted to spend more time

(01:55:51):
with his family. Rick says, I believe he resigned so
as not to let it be known how powerful the
primary endorsement is. Imagine if it got out that a
handful of ordinary Americans could bring down the speaker of
the House. I think it may have been in part
he wanted to get in the weed business after years
of being against it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Anyway, believing we should abolished the Central Committee because it's
controlled by rhinos is like saying we should abolish Congress
because it's controlled by rhinos and Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
I thought that was a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Again, it's not the existence of the committee, it's the
makeup of the committee. In other words, arithmetic people are policy.
If you want to change the policy, you have to
change the people. Then he goes on to conclude there
are more ordinary Americans than rhinos in America. Unfortunately for America,
ordinary Americans are uncomfortable participating in their own government. Rhinos

(01:56:42):
and Democrats have no such aversion. Politics can be likened
to a football game. We have far too many spectators
in the stands and join their nachosen beer, and too
few down on the field getting their teeth kicked in.
Don't vote Democrat, but more importantly, don't endore rhinos in
the primary regards Rick heron Well stated, Rick, you did

(01:57:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
Seven nine here fifty five K see you talk station.
Looking forward to Corey Bumman being back in the studio.
It was great seeing him yesterday at lunch thanks to
everydy minute to lunch. Smithmen was there, Steve Gooden, loz Keating,
Betsy Sundenem and Corey Buman. Of course, Holly got to
meet Holly terrific, terrific lady, the woman that got the
beat down. She's gonna maybe join the program again sometime
down the road. She was very willing to do that.

(01:59:36):
And she spoke to the crowd too, and was wonderful
hearing her.

Speaker 8 (01:59:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
And of course, you know, an illustration of just the
insanity going on in the world these days. Just there's
no no excuse whatsoever, I'd say, under any circumstances to
hit a woman. Annie, I don't care when I read
about domestic viol I read about men beating up on women.

(02:00:02):
I just find that's like they're one step better than
a child molester. And I think I pointed this out you.
I was talking to a conversation with someone. Hold on, Tom,
I'll get you just a second, that there is an
argument that could be made if you're in a relationship
with somebody, and it's one of those that we read

(02:00:22):
about in the stack is stupid this morning, one of
those just walk away relationships. But at least you have
a connection with the other person, the person that maybe
you issued a beat down too because you thought it
was an appropriate reaction to whatever argument you were having.
At least you're connected with the person you punched. Holly
was rendering aid to a stranger and this guy came

(02:00:45):
up out of nowhere and cole cocked her. A large
man and Holly is a petite framed woman. He outsized
her significantly. She represented no threat to him, They had
no connection, didn't know each other. Out of the room,
out of nowhere, punched her in the face. I call
that a really low form of human being. Tom, thanks

(02:01:08):
for bearing with me right there. Welcome to the show,
and thanks for calling.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
Awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:01:12):
Hey, great, great to be with you. Brian, and hey,
thanks for all your great promotion for empower you.

Speaker 14 (02:01:20):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (02:01:21):
You know, I know, I know Rick Heron, I know
a lot of people that have worked in the grassroots.
I was on the Hamilton County Central Committee. This is
really real simple, It's very simple. It's not about numbers,
it's about dollar signs completely. Just look at any politician,
it's all available. Look at where they get their money.

(02:01:43):
A lot of Republican legislators get money from the Ohio
Education Association, the Teachers.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
Union, boom.

Speaker 6 (02:01:52):
Mike DeWine, one of his very early big supporters was
less Lexter less is not the most concerned the person
around the multi billionaire guy up with the limited and
so forth. Uh yeah, just follow the money. Uh that's
and Vivak he's great man. He's getting he's going to

(02:02:14):
be our next governor because of.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
The war chest.

Speaker 6 (02:02:18):
I hope he doesn't owe a lot of people a
lot of stuff that is not conservative. I don't think
he does. You know what happened before, you've seen it happen.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
Follow get it all day long.

Speaker 2 (02:02:31):
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I like to believe
my impression of Vivak Ramaswami. He's a man of character.
He's a man of integrity. He obviously is an unbelievably
successful businessman. And I don't think he got to that
position by you know, uh, doing favors for people. I
don't know, but he doesn't strike He's a guy that
would be that way man. And I can only pray

(02:02:53):
that he's not Brian.

Speaker 6 (02:02:55):
I do too, I really do. I was just mentioning
that that. I mean, he's he really believes in these issues.
He's just not using issues to.

Speaker 5 (02:03:07):
Get elected.

Speaker 4 (02:03:08):
He's not.

Speaker 6 (02:03:09):
He's really serious about this, but in a broader sense,
like I say, the whole thing, the Central Committee. I
hate to say it, but grassroots is extremely frustrating work.
Thank god for the people that don't give up. I've
get involved for two three years and I just burn
out it. It's very frustrated. And usually what happens is

(02:03:32):
we get out voted by people with bigger checkbooks. That's
that's what has happened time and time again. That's why
we have all these rhinos. I mean, I was in
a real briefly, I was in a meeting where where
a Republican was pitching for contributions from several executives of
a local company, and he was back in the midute,

(02:03:55):
if we can just get back in power, we're going
to change everything. They did change some things, but my gosh,
the corruption and the failure to follow through on conservative
principles has been truly breathtaking.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Yeah, no, there's no question about it. Governor Mike DeWine
and I, you know, say aught about v big romise.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Mommy.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
I think in this state, Amy Acton doesn't have a
snowballs chance in hell. Thank you, Amy Lockdown Action for
all the wonderful benefits you've bestowed upon the residents of
the state of Ohio during COVID nineteen. We haven't forgotten Tom.
I appreciate you chiming in, and thanks for your work
in the past and maybe that service and some incentive
to well like you. Tom apparently get your keep teeth

(02:04:40):
kicked in in the name of sanity in Republican politics.
Stealing a phrase from Rick Herron who chimed in earlier today,
And thank you Rick for chiming and I appreciate your
commentary on the Central Committee topic seven fifty five. Right now,
if you have Ksity talk Station Corey Bowman in studio
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If you're fifty five KRCD talk station. Happy Friday, Eve,
who was really blessed to see Corey Bowman yesterday's listener
to lunch course running from Mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
and hopefully he's got a chance more probably more of
a chance now than we've even seen it in a
long long time. I think you have to go back
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Speaker 16 (02:05:53):
Hey, thank you for having me, Brian, thank you for
all your listeners for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
That was a fun day yesterday. I'm glad you're able
to be there.

Speaker 16 (02:05:58):
It was awesome, awesome. Always love the food over at
Jim and Jacks too. They sleep on the Buffalo Chicken wrap.
I always have that every time I'm there.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
I had the fried fish and I strongly recommend it.
It's a really, really wonderful thing. Westside, Jim Kiefer was
sitting there eating his I'm like, well, I know what
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those so ice cool beer. Great fellowship, and you mentioned
Dave Hatter Tech Friday's tomorrow morning. Every listener knows that
regular listeners on Friday at six point thirty mayor of
Fort Wright, and he showed up a listener lunch too. Sorry, Dave,

(02:06:28):
I forgot to mention you earlier. In addition, we saw
Christopher Smith and Steve Good and Liz Keening, Betsy Sunderman,
I just going down the list that I am, and Holly.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:06:37):
Yeah, it was awesome to see everybody come together, and
I mean it was a packed crowd, especially for an
afternoon lunch right there, mister hatter. That was awesome meeting
him because I had heard his voice on your show,
did No No and met him and you know, he
was awesome. Looks like, you know, some hippie that's able
to just you know, school people on every different subject imaginable.

Speaker 1 (02:06:58):
So it was really cool to get in touch with.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
Yeah, he is just a brilliant, brilliant man. You said,
wouldn't be How cool is it to have a brilliant
man like that as your mayor? And I said, well,
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me as your governor? You know, another person who's brilliant
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So anyway, a little plug for tomorrow Tech Friday with
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(02:07:21):
out there, Corey Bowman, I was asking you. You have
it your church, your minister at your church, but you
also have this coffee shop. We've talked about it before,
located in the West End. Yes, sir, what I would
say and correct me if I'm wrong? Would you describe
it as one of the struggling neighborhoods that we talk
about all the time in the Morning Show. Neighborhoods plagued
with crime or maybe roads are having a problem. There's

(02:07:44):
lots of empty space that could be developed. Am I
accurately describing?

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (02:07:48):
What I tell people is that the West End has
been really the dumping grounds of all these failed policies.
It just so happens that when these policies creep over
to Hyde Park or in these other neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
Then people start paying it.

Speaker 16 (02:08:00):
And so I think that it's given me a perfect
perspective on what government programs do to a community that
really cripple it, that concentrate the poverty, that concentrate the crime,
shuts down businesses, but at the same time, the West
End is our home. That's an area that we believe
in most in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
I know you do, and you're committed to it. And
you had to convince your business partner that creating a
new business in that particular neighborhood was a good idea. Yeah, listen,
if you and I were having that conversation today and
you were talking about Brian, I really, once you invest
I'm going to open a coffee shop, it's going to
be in the West End. Like I'd be like, wait
a minute, you mean right down the street from where

(02:08:37):
those buildings were getting shot at. I mean right down
the street from where those murders were. I mean right
down the street from where that drug dealing is going on.
And you would have said, yeah, it's worked out.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
Though it does.

Speaker 16 (02:08:47):
And I think that this is kind of like what's
becoming like my life's pursuit as being a Cincinnatian.

Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
You know, it's the heart.

Speaker 16 (02:08:54):
It's always an uphill battle try to convince somebody that
Cincinnati chili is good, that's not for Cincinnati. It's always
hard to convince somebody to be a Bengals or a
Reds fan that's not a fan initially, and so at
the same time when it comes to the West End,
it's hard for people to see the potential based on
whether it be the crime or whether it be what

(02:09:14):
they see. But this is an area that we believe in,
and whenever I talk to my cowner, there's a lot
of different areas you can go to in Cincinnati, and
all of them are great neighborhoods. But I just have
this belief that you need to go where you're needed most,
not necessarily where the tolerance is going to be, or
whether you're going to see the most success initially, but
go someplace where you can make a true impact and
then from that you're going to see success.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
And I started out the question like how's the business doing,
and you would talk about your your eyes lit up.
You're like, Oh, it's really good. We got this organic
growth and development. You got a whole bunch of young
people from UC coming down to the coffee show, people
of all makes and models. I mean, this is and
it's a welcome environment. Other people saw your success and
are now starting to invest in the area.

Speaker 16 (02:09:59):
Yeah, it's when the first year that we were there
was actually the year that we went to the super Bowl, right,
and so the West End streets were actually lined up
with investors and developers that were ready to actually invest
in the West End and other areas of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:10:12):
Well, and also FC Cincinnati is up the round the street.
I mean that that was that was a big draw
for I mean they put that there in a struggling neighborhood. Yeah,
I think with the idea that you're going to regentrify
the whole West End area through.

Speaker 16 (02:10:24):
The well, what ends up happening is that a lot
of these city policies and it's two way battle. The
business owners are trying to find a way to be profitable,
so they're looking for all the incentives they can.

Speaker 1 (02:10:34):
They're looking for all the tax breaks that they can.

Speaker 5 (02:10:36):
Right.

Speaker 16 (02:10:36):
But then on the flip side, you have a lot
of government programs, a lot of city initiatives that are
pushing for zoning or pushing for just a lot of
it's kind of victorial in my opinion. You're you're forcing
what a building needs to be in instead of letting
the market and the community decide what it needs to be.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
I mean that like fascists would do.

Speaker 16 (02:10:56):
Yeah yeah, maybe yeah, so, but what I see it
as that really stunts the growth, and so a lot
of these initial developers and investors they kind of jump
ship once they saw that this was going to be
a long term thing.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
They're going to have to fight the city on things.
There's a lot of red tape.

Speaker 16 (02:11:10):
But right now what we're seeing is that on our
specific block, the crime in our specific block has gone down.
And then also you have a lot of different development
that's finally starting to pick up in the area. And
that's what we need in these areas. We need thriving businesses,
we need grocery stores, We need to be able to
have things that the community can do. When you ask

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anybody on the street, when you talk to them about
youth violence, they say, well, the youth don't have anything
to do right now. They only have homes to go
to that our government subsidize house that a lot of
times the water or the electric is turned off, and
then at night they don't really have any place to
hang out or anything to do because the businesses are
shut down. And we're looking to change that in the
West End and any other struggling neighborhood in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
I guess canoeing down the Mill Creek doesn't quite cut it. Then, sorry,
I had to take a cheap shot on that one.
I thought that was a preposterous idea. Well, and as
someone else turned in, Richard, thank you very much. Rent
is cheap on the west in the West End, so
it's a good opportunity to save money on that expense
while you're building this new growth. And so what all

(02:12:14):
this suggests and leads to is you live there, your
church is there, your business is successful there. You had to,
like others who walked away from the idea, navigate the
challenges of building that business.

Speaker 16 (02:12:29):
And that's you know where're navigating.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
Yeah, you know where the red tape is, you know
where the stupid impediments are. And I presume that will
be top of your job priorities if you're elected mayor.
That's one of the things you're going after.

Speaker 16 (02:12:41):
Yeah, well, what we see is so what we're experiencing
right there, what my front row seat shows me is
that we need clean streets, we need safe streets, and
we need prosperous streets. There was many people have heard
me say this, all right, but there was a week
where people couldn't even come to my business because of
the snowplow removal in our area.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
And then if you look the streets, that's not a
hilly neighborhood, no, no, not talking about a yeah okay.

Speaker 16 (02:13:06):
And so for a business like us that's in our
first years, a week like that could be detrimental to
your business model. And so thank god that we had
the residential that were coming in their snow boots and
that we're walking in. But for a business that relies
on visitors in the city, that's huge, right. And then
you look at the streets. A lot of times we
have these trucks. This this happens so much to us

(02:13:28):
is that we'll see the construction crews come in, right,
We'll see the road crews come in, and we get
so excited about it. They're finally gonna do it. And
then they have one strip of stuff that they've taken
out because they're gonna put a water line or a
gas line in, and then they just patch that over.
It's the worst patch job I've ever seen. And then
they leave the street that way. I'm like, wait, we

(02:13:49):
thought they were gonna pave our road. We thought they
were gonna there's a pothole in front of my parking
spot on the side of York Street that's been there
for three years, never been fixed before. And so this
is kind of what we see is we get this
excitement once we see the road crews come in. Then
we realize, oh, gosh, they're only going to take one
strip or like a three foot strip of the road

(02:14:10):
just to put a line in and then patch it over.

Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
Yeah, asking the obvious question, mean logically and reasonably speaking,
they have obligations to make sure the roads are paved.
There are four hundred million dollars behind in their obligation,
years and years behind in doing that. All the equipment's
right blank and there you did your little line problem.
You did your little sewer line fix. Why don't you
go ahead and fix the road up while you're out

(02:14:33):
rather than patch it. You're all here here, You've got
another illustration of what you, as an elected official, have
accomplished on behalf of the West End.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
We repaved a road.

Speaker 16 (02:14:42):
What happened in in College Hill? We were living College
Hill on the first I think it was the first
month that we moved in our house. When we moved
there for College Hill, all the crews came out. We're
all so excited we're like, oh my gosh, they're going
to repave our It's a road where a school is,
there's many residential this is going to be amazing. I
kid you, not right down the middle. I'm not talking

(02:15:04):
about like from like the north end of the street
to the south end of the street half of the street.
I'm talking about straight down the center line of the street.
They paved one half of the road. The other half
the road is garbage, but one half the road is
brand new pavement and they left it there and that's
how it stayed for two years. And we're like, you

(02:15:24):
only finish half the job, what are you coming back?
And that happens a lot in the city because they're
only trying to do the bare minimum, because, to be
honest with you, the budget is not prioritized. It's not
principal enough to be able to make sure that this
is at the forefront.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Which would be a perfect springboard we get back. I
want to let you let my listeners hear about your
one million dollars what it could do argument, and we'll
talk about that in the context of them handing out
say seven million dollars to so called non governmental organizations.
You know, every little bit adds up and what the
power of one million dollars? It sounds like it wouldn't

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again Corey Boman dot com. Corey, we engaged in an
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was worthy that you passed this information along to my listeners.
What you can do with a million dollars and we
always talking these giant bundles of money, but you give

(02:17:27):
some great illustrations of a couple of programs which effectively
were ten million dollars in a pile of money. You
can explain where that money went and then use that
ten million dollars to explain what could have been in
a government city government that had a better understanding and
better prioritization list, It could have brought a lot of

(02:17:48):
what we really truly need in the city rather than
what it ultimately went for. So let's go into that analysis.

Speaker 16 (02:17:53):
Yeah, so one of our biggest issues that we're facing
is budget, right, where's the money going? Because you have,
let's a one point nine billion dollar proposed budget for
the upcoming year. Where's the money gonna go?

Speaker 5 (02:18:05):
Right?

Speaker 16 (02:18:06):
And so a lot of people say that all we're
playing from behind, we're working with a four hundred million
dollar deficit. But no budget is perfect. But what I
view it as is that every budget needs to be
guided by principles and priorities. If you have proper principles
in your budget, what that means is that you're gonna
avoid corruption, You're gonna avoid this money being used for
things that it shouldn't be used for. And then priorities,

(02:18:28):
you're gonna make sure that even though there's a lot
of things we can put money into, the money is
going first and foremost to the things that matter most
of people, which is crime and infrastructure. That's what's needing
to go right now. And so recently there was an
article that came out that a million dollars was given
to a local basically a landlord that monitors affordable housing

(02:18:51):
in the city. Now, we have gotten complaint after complaint
about there being people defecating on the streets of these
are on the steps of these tenants, doors, ac, and
heat that's.

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
Not being run properly.

Speaker 16 (02:19:06):
I've got somebody that that would buy my church that
lived in one of these properties said that her and
her four children didn't have heat for the first year,
all right, and then they didn't have HVAC. There's leaking,
there's mold. And when they called a complain, the actual people,
the organization that is running this affordable housing, right they
are saying, hey, just wipe it up with bleach. There's

(02:19:28):
no proper procedures, there's no pest control, there's no anything.
And this organization that has had so many different complaints
just received from the city manager's office a million dollar grant,
and so a million dollars going to a lot of
people say, oh, where's that going to go in this
grand scheme of things? Right, let me tell you what
a million dollars can do because if you look at
the city budget, this stuff adds up. One million dollars

(02:19:50):
actually can equal to at least and this is conservative, right,
This isn't with you negotiating contracts properly. But let's just say,
based on what we're seeing, a million dollars can have
one center line mile of road completely paved. I'm not
talking about patch, I'm not talking about managed. I'm talking
about completely paved.

Speaker 18 (02:20:09):
Right, or two if you're only doing half exactly right,
and then one million dollars can also let's not forget
that sixty four percent of our fire trucks right now
with the CFD, they need either maintenanced or replaced, and
so a million dollars can actually provide a fully equipped
fire truck which saved lives.

Speaker 1 (02:20:27):
That is actually huge.

Speaker 16 (02:20:28):
When it comes to crime prevention, because you're going to
be able to get to crime scenes quicker, You're gonna
be able to prevent things a lot quicker there. And
then a million dollars also conservatively can get the ball
rolling on ten new CPD officers. When it comes to
actually doing let's say a lateral hiring class, or let's
say onboarding people with training. Ten a million dollars can

(02:20:48):
do that as well for ten new police officers. So
now let's go into the programs because a lot of
people say, oh, it's just a little bit here, a
little bit there. Right, Let's look at there's seven point
two million dollars that just got granted to Harrison Avenue. Now,
a lot of people when they hear that, they're, oh,
they're gonna pave the roads, They're gonna fix things. They're
gonna do that. The Western Hills Viaduct is along Harrison Avenue.

(02:21:11):
This is gonna be awesome. Seven point two million dollars
toward speed humps, speed humps and traffic prevention, right, but
not repaving, not repaving. And then you have three point
two million dollars that win to Act for Cincy, which
is a city manager crime reduction initiative that has nothing
to do with the police force, and that was done

(02:21:32):
under the guise of, hey, we're gonna see crime decrease. Well,
I think we need our money back based on what
we're seeing with this summer. So let's just say that
ten million dollars, right, ten dollars projects, ten million, two projects,
ten million dollars, And that's just a fraction of what
goes into a lot of these programs, a lot of
these nonprofits, a lot of these things. A million dollars
for a lot of these nonprofits pays ten administrative salaries.

(02:21:56):
That's all it does. For other nonprofits that don't even
get set funding, a million dollars could actually help shake
city blocks, It could help feed people. Properly, could help
do a lot because a lot of nonprofits in the
city they don't even want to pursue. I talked with
a major I'm not talking about small I'm talking about
a major nonprofit in the city that has buildings with

(02:22:17):
their names on it, right, and they said that they
don't pursue city funding because they know the stipulations or
the strings that will be attached to it. And these
are people that provide free HVA or free AC units
during the summer for people. They provide free groceries, free
housing for those that are needing a leg up. They

(02:22:37):
do amazing work in the city. They come in my
coffee shop all the time talking about what they're doing.
And they're based on volunteer base and they're based on donations.
So you give it an organization like that proper funding.
Oh dear God, they're going to be able to shake
the whole city, but they won't even pursue city funding
because they realize there's always strings attached, and a lot
of the organizations that do get city funding, all they're

(02:22:59):
doing is painted administrative salaries and making sure that their
family members are getting jobs.

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Speaker 2 (02:25:13):
Corey Boman dot Com where you find mayoral candidate Corey Bowman,
who you can find in the fifty five KRC morning
show studios right now. Because I'm staring at him, Corey Bouman,
I was going to had to break there, and it
was just testing the waters on this say to cut
you off, because yes, you do know about it. You
talk about a million dollars in what it can accomplish
by the way of you know, laye miles or acquisition

(02:25:34):
of trucks or funding you know, ten police officers for
a year. Then I thought of well, the railroad money.
We got a billion and change piled on the bank account,
earning interest speaking through investments, and uh, well have we
gotten to check on that yet? And if it is so,
how much, where's it gonna go? And what could we
do with it? If you were in charge, Corey Bowmen.

Speaker 16 (02:25:56):
So this is what you know the current mayor and
administration is saying, which you are getting your first checks
this year of fifty four million dollars from the railroad purchase.
So how it is structured is that you get the
one point six billion dollars, you put it in a trust,
and then you are investing that and then based on
your interest received, based on your return on investment, then

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the city is getting payments of fifty four million dollars
a year, let's say, and that is spe specifically supposed
to go to where it was promised. So existing infrastructure
is their categorization of and so they can they have
started initial programs of paving certain sections of roads and
certain areas of the city to be able to just

(02:26:38):
say that, hey, they're using the fifty four million dollars.
But this is the problem that's happening right now is that,
first off, how it's being held. There's a trust that's
holding the one point six billion dollars, and we're only
seeing a very small percentage of increase when it comes
to our return on investment second on that, So you're
looking at maybe one to three percent increase on that, right,

(02:27:00):
So a lot of times it doesn't even cover the inflation.
It definitely doesn't cover the inflation of the costs of
the road. And so you're seeing an inflation rate of
let's say fifty percent. Is the last time I checked
percent inflation rate of the cost of the materials to
be able to pave a real cost. Yeah, so the
material cost So already we're losing money based on this

(02:27:21):
railroad sale. But hey, the deal has already been done,
so we got to figure out how to spend it properly.
But what I tell people is how we hold it
properly because a lot of these funds under the guise
of investment are going to things that will never be
able to return on our investment. So let's say you
look at twenty million dollars of west End mortgages. Right,

(02:27:44):
twenty million dollars of this fund is going toward West
End mortgages. Now on their books the assets they say that, hey,
this investment, we're getting our interest. So you're seeing a
return on investment, right, But I know how forgivable loans work.
I know how all these different things on the books.
You can justify that, Yeah, we have assets on the books,
but these aren't coming back to the city.

Speaker 1 (02:28:04):
I'm just telling you that right now.

Speaker 2 (02:28:06):
Are they getting market rate interest rates? Like currently mortgages
are running around six but here but here's.

Speaker 16 (02:28:11):
The thing, Brian, what's a market rate interest on a
forgivable loan? What's a market straight market rate interest on
a loan that's just going to be taken off your
books eventually.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
Kind of like forgiving student loans, right, you know, the money,
your interest and then.

Speaker 1 (02:28:25):
So it's just kind of a shell game.

Speaker 16 (02:28:26):
And then also with this fifty four million dollars, it's
come in the people that wrote it a lot of
a lot of the people that wrote the contracts were
on the conservative front saying that our biggest fear is
that there's going to be a shell game in the
budget right to where they're going to divert funds from
the city budget and use the fifty four million dollars
a year for the things that were supposed to be

(02:28:47):
spent through the city budget. Because the fifty four million
dollars was supposed to be it was supposed to help.
It was supposed to add on top of it. It
wasn't just supposed to do substitute for other funds. And
we're making the same. We are going to make all
the time. Money's fungible.

Speaker 2 (02:29:01):
Exactly, you get fifty four million dollars in it must
go to existing infrastructure. Well, you were supposed to be
fixing existing infrastructure. And how to hel do you get
four hundred lane miles or four hundred million dollars behind
in lane miles That comes from the general fund, the
annual you know, allocation.

Speaker 1 (02:29:17):
Of these priorities of the budget.

Speaker 2 (02:29:20):
Give the fifty four million and you put that over
here in the existing infrastructure pile, which no longer the
road miles no longer need to be funded by the
general budget. That means they can throw things at woke projects,
green projects, well lotonngos.

Speaker 1 (02:29:35):
I'll tell you this.

Speaker 16 (02:29:36):
They can recategorize things as well. So when you have
a category of existing infrastructure, they can categorize that as
a railcar, as a streetcar, as public transportation, or as
any of these other things that they deem as existing infrastructure.
They can even deem certain things when it comes to
public safety That's another thing. Sixty four percent of our

(02:29:56):
budget goes toward public safety. So on the books, you
can't say that we're defunding the police. But a lot
of these funds aren't going to the police. They're going
toward community initiatives. They're going toward things like Act for Cincy.
They're going toward things that have nothing to do with
a proper police force. And so it's this huge shell
game of recategorizing things so that on the books it

(02:30:17):
looks like you're spending the money where it doesn't need
to go. Now, let's go toward the issue of potholes.

Speaker 2 (02:30:23):
All right, I'm gonna pause, yeah, because this sounds like
it's got legs. Corey Bowman, it's eight thirty five. We'll
find out about potholes, including the one that's outside of
his coffee shop, coming out eight thirty five right now,
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Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
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Speaker 1 (02:30:37):
Is that okay?

Speaker 16 (02:30:38):
How can we get this done with the quickest that
we quickest time possible based on our current city pacing,
based on the history of what we're seeing in Cincinnati
and the current city pacing of our road crews, it
would take forty years, forty years to pave all those
roads in Cincinnati, and so that is unacceptable in my mind.
So then when you look at let's let's put a

(02:30:59):
rush on this.

Speaker 1 (02:31:00):
Can we do well?

Speaker 16 (02:31:00):
There's a lot of different options. You can work with state, county, state,
and federal with DOTS to be able to make sure
that the programs are done properly. You can get ten crews,
you can get even twenty five crews, two hundred and
fifty crews, depending on how you want to lay this
thing out. And then I mean, if you want chaos
in the city, but then a proper city after afterwards,

(02:31:21):
you could do it. In a year and a half
to two years.

Speaker 2 (02:31:23):
Everything can be shut down. Everything will be shut down.

Speaker 1 (02:31:26):
Everybody.

Speaker 16 (02:31:26):
Hey, yeah, Massessaria, But hey, in a year and a
half two years, you're gonna come out of your house
and every road's gonna be paved, and it's gonna be
like that Wizard of Oz phase where Dorothy comes out
and it's color now.

Speaker 2 (02:31:37):
Right, And then they'll ignore it for a long, long, long,
long time, and then the roads will fall apart again
because they're not taking care of real time with what's
falling apart real time, and that's how you get behind
the eight ball like we are now.

Speaker 16 (02:31:47):
Also, you got to look at like some roads, even
if you repave them, you're gonna have to redo. And
I'm not talking about repaving. I'm talking about like you're
gonna have to restructure the capacity of your infrastructure to
take on more add from two lane to a four lane,
or add another highway, another on ramp. There's a lot
of different things that you got to take in consideration
with that.

Speaker 2 (02:32:08):
But I would argue that the current administration, being so
enlightened and green, they're not interested in adding any vehicles.
They're not interested in coping with an increase in the
number of cars. They want to reduce the number of cars.
Get on a bike and ride. That's the mentality they have.

Speaker 16 (02:32:22):
I want to say this too, by chance, if there's
anybody that is a proponent of public transportation that's watching
or that's listening, I'm not against public transportation. When you
go to major downtown areas, when you go to let's
say New York Chicago, they thrive off their public transportation.
So in our downtown area, we do need to actually
consider things. And this is an official endorsement, but you

(02:32:45):
got to be able to have conversations about the single
lane public transportation lanes, whether it be with your buses
or whether it be with your street cars or monorails
or subways. Everybody wants to talk about the subway tunnels,
and I'm like, I get it. We want to have
subways in the city. But at the same time, we
got to be able to fix our roads that are
on the surface right now, and then based on our

(02:33:07):
current public transportation.

Speaker 1 (02:33:08):
I'll tell you this.

Speaker 16 (02:33:10):
Our Cincinnati Fire Department, they it's it's very hard for
them to do their job because a lot of times
they're in line with a streetcar or you know, they
have to abide by the line of where that car
is going, and so it makes it harder for them.
So these are things that you always have to consider.
And if we can work together, we can have a
proper plan. I'm looking at it probably I mean, I

(02:33:31):
want to rush it and say five years, but you're
talking about five to ten years to where the infrastructure
of our city can go to a complete new level,
to where not only are you paving the roads properly,
but when it comes to the capacity for future championships.
Let's say NCAA wants to have a tournament here. Let's
say that we want to have concerts here. We're backed

(02:33:51):
up on a Tuesday afternoon with no events. When it
comes to traffic, So it's not just about okay, let's
throw on public transportation. It's about let's look overall what
our capacity needs to look like from an infrastructure standpoint
to be able to take this on. And I think
that based on what I'm seeing, there's clear ways that
we can do that if we have proper relationships with

(02:34:11):
the county, with the state, with the federal, with dots
and everybody involved in the community.

Speaker 2 (02:34:17):
A coordinated effort with a unified goal. The problem is,
and everything you say makes sense, and I'm sure you
know that the current council makeup and the mayor would
not disagree conceptually with what you've got. The problem is
it is not a priority with exactly. There are more
important fluffy ideas to chase, or NGOs with woke policies

(02:34:38):
to chase. There's NGOs out there. They're going to fulfill
their green green objectives for the city, and all of that,
you know, may sound wonderful looking at it in a
factual vacuum it's not when you look at it in
a city that is literally crumbling.

Speaker 1 (02:34:55):
Yes, and so that's what we have to folks on.

Speaker 16 (02:34:58):
I know, if Christopher Smithaman's listen to me, he's probably
going to be mad at me because I get in
the weeds of all these details. He tells me, just kiss,
you know, keep a simple stupid But the thing is
that when we say practical budgeting, when we say infrastructure,
when we say crime, we have a plan. We know,
we know based on what we're seeing. We're surround ourselves

(02:35:18):
with the right people. And I really believe that one
election can turn this thing around. But we have to
get people out to vote a man.

Speaker 2 (02:35:25):
Since you brought up the fire department earlier, I want
us give a shout out to Michael Washington, the fire
chief that was terminated wrongfully. He was a listener lunch yesterday,
the first time I got to meetium, and he's a
hell of a good guy. So Michael, if you're out there,
it was wonderful senior at lunch yesterday. Stick around, folks
got one more segment with Corey Bumman. Be right back
after these brief words.

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Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:36:40):
He checked fort of Me Dave had tomorrow morning at
six thirty good scene. Dave had or listen to lunch
yesterday as well, and Corey Bowman is in studio. Coryboman
dot com again shout out with the website. You're doing
a debate with AFTAB actually two of them.

Speaker 16 (02:36:56):
Yeah, we just I mean, so for the one that's
officially confirmed October ninth, and it's going to be at
Xavier University, they have a ballroom set up. I believe
there was a capacity of about five hundred that they're
agreeing to and so that will be moderated by Kevin Aldridge.
He's the one that did the primary debate before, so
that's going on. Unfortunately, what's looking like is that the

(02:37:17):
public tickets are sold out. They were sold out fairly quickly,
in about twelve hours. So yeah, we're just suspicious about
that one. How many they give you so personally we
have I believe twenty five per candidate. Xavier and their
faculty has two hundred tickets, so they're distributing those out
and then the public. There was a public registration link

(02:37:40):
that went fairly quickly.

Speaker 2 (02:37:42):
And not being familiar with Xavier University, it's current political climate,
I'm just wondering if it's a bastion of conservatism at
that Catholic university.

Speaker 16 (02:37:50):
Great students at Xavier.

Speaker 2 (02:37:52):
You know you're a politician right there, You're not gonna
call him out, all right, that's wonderful. So two debates
then that's then with the one that's sold out in Xavier,
and then you have a local twelve debate. You're gonna
be on Channel twelve at six pm on the fifteenth, right.

Speaker 16 (02:38:08):
Yes, we're finalizing all the agreements on it right now.
But that's what it's looking like, is that at six
pm on October fifteenth, during the six o'clock news hour,
we will be live there.

Speaker 2 (02:38:17):
Good and in terms of debate prep, I'm thinking maybe
Todd Zenzer might benefit you having him in your corner.
Todd Zenzer citizen watchdog, a brilliant man. And here how
about this Todd Zenzer, citizen watchdog city manager under the
Cory Bowman administration. Todd, if you're out there, I'm gunning

(02:38:38):
for you, man. You couldn't put a more brilliant person
and a more suited person in that role. I'm just saying,
just saying, not trying to control your administration, Vice Mayor
Christopher Smitheman. Anyway, real quick here joke. Drecker found this
before me and props again, and I mentioned this in
the morning Signal ninety nine. She is out on Facebook

(02:38:58):
and does a wonderful job stand up on of city
matters as well, kind of like Todd Zenzer, except more
from a law enforcement perspective. But if she sees shenanigans
going on, she calls him out. So Purvol in his
ribbon cutting ceremony like efforts, is out there announcing how
he you know, the city paid off two hundred nineteen
million dollars in medical bills and oh my god, aren't

(02:39:18):
we great for over one hundred thousand residents. And as
it comes to find out, according to the signal ninety
nine I guess and other reporting on it, they spent
one point four five million dollars and bought the two
hundred and nineteen million dollars in outstanding debt. So it's
like a bankruptcy thing, you know. It's like you're gonna
get pennies on the dollar when you're a creditor. The

(02:39:39):
providers apparently had written this off is not recoverable, but
it's on the books. Two hundred nineteen million dollars. City
shows up, hands him a check for one point four
to five million, and they wiped that off the book.
So the American run around talking about how he got
two hundred and nineteen million dollars in debt relieve well
and signal points that listen, if you're Medicaid, you don't
have you don't know how any medical You already have
medical coverage, you're not having bills. Medicare you may have

(02:40:00):
some co pays, but you're still covered in the senior years.
And people with private insurance are expected to pay their
deductibles in premiums like the rest of us, which most
of us do. So the conclusion is, hmmm, who actually
was benefiting from this payoff of hospital bills? And how
is it the provol is getting away with saying I
go re loose twitter at it. Two million dollars was

(02:40:22):
one point four or five million dollars translated to at
least a mile and a half of paved road.

Speaker 1 (02:40:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:40:29):
The only thing I'll say about that, because you know,
I don't want to discredit the joy that somebody would
get from having medical debt, you know, removed in the city.
But I find it very very I don't think it's
a coincidence the timing of it. That's what I would
say with it, because yeah, what we're what we're dealing
with with the city is that every election year, a

(02:40:50):
lot of these programs get accelerated, a lot of these
things get put to the forefront because of an election year.

Speaker 1 (02:40:57):
But then you mean like canoes in the mill creek.

Speaker 16 (02:41:00):
But the thing is is that then the three years
after the election, people get treated like garbage. They get ignored.
There's no transparency when it comes to the administration, there's
no sense of care when it comes to those three years.
But then once the election year hits, well, that's when
we're able to be more active on social media. That's
when we're able to make all these promises. And for me,

(02:41:23):
I mean for somebody that this is my first run
in politics, it just seemed fairly obvious to me what
was going on. But then at the same time, it's like, hey,
I guess this is how a lot of people play
the game. This isn't something that I plan to do
for me. It's more so, Hey, whatever our administration is
focusing on, that's going to be what we're focusing on
from year one, year two, year three, year four, and

(02:41:46):
then in four years our track record is what's going
to speak louder than our campaign strategy for the next year.

Speaker 2 (02:41:53):
Of course, and you'll be able to offer a comparison
of administrations one versus the other. Corey moment, I wish
you all this scess in the world. I truly hope,
and you know, I don't know how you're going to
do is mayor if you get elected, but I'm willing
to encourage people to give it a shot. We know
what we've got currently. Most people are unhappy about at
least something. I think crime maybe number one on that issue.

(02:42:15):
Of late we've had all these horrific stories Sarah Heringer
and Holly and the shootings. I mean, you mentioned this
morning when you came in to me somebody else got
shot in the back.

Speaker 16 (02:42:23):
Well last night somebody in Avendale in the back. Yeah,
And so this is something that we're seeing and we
can't just sit there and say, hey, it's so bad,
give us a shot. I really need people to know
that we have the plans, we have the structure, We're
surrounding ourselves with the right people, and I really believe
that we can turn this thing around with the one election.
It really takes just practical mentalities when it comes to

(02:42:46):
city Hall, prioritizing the budget and making sure that you're
spending the money properly. Make sure that you're putting the
priorities on infrastructure and crime, and that's what we're running on.
And so if anybody's out there is listening, that you
If you're a Cincinnati voter, the last date to register
to vote is October sixth. We've got to get out
there and vote, so make sure to check your registration status.

(02:43:07):
I believe it's vote Hamilton County dot org. And then
early voting starts October seventh. A lot of people want
to focus on November fourth as the election. I encourage
every single person out that's listening, get out there and
vote early. And then, just like Christopher Smithman says, we
have to be strategic when it comes to our votes.
So vote for three, four or five city council candidates.

(02:43:29):
Don't vote for all nine. Vote for three four, five
city council candidates that you believe in.

Speaker 2 (02:43:35):
Cory Bowman outstanding advice. That's advice that Christopher Smithman also
passed Alonge yesterday during listener to lunch. Great having you
in studio again, Best of luck, Coreybowman dot com to
help Corey out in his efforts and learn a little
more about the man Congressman Warren Davidson was on in
the seven o'clock hour talking about the government shutdown as
well as the Empower You simmonar tonight that one is
sound Money, Secure Borders, and Secure Elections starts at seven pm.

(02:43:58):
You can do the show up at three hund Great
Oaks Drive. That's the Scarlet Oaks Campus. Empower You studios
are there or log in from home. Just make sure
you register regardless of how you're gonna plan on doing
that and empower You America dot org link on fifty
five KRC dot com. Along with this conversation and my
conversation with Congressman Davidson tomorrow, Tech Friday with Dave Hatter,
among others. The other things going on. Just Dreker, God

(02:44:19):
bless you, sir. Thank you for what you do for
the morning show production. Everybody, have a great day, and
don't go away because Glenn Beck is coming up next.
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