55KRC Thursday Show - Congressman Davidson, Empower U, Andre Ewing

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Some sense, will.

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Vacation, Let's go right.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, and it is happy Friday Thursday. Call it what
you want. Here we are fifty five KRC Morning Show.
Brian Thomas right here, glad to be and glad to
see Dress Rukker where he is supposed to be in
the executive producer booth and looking forward to Congressman Warren
Davidson Jordan of the program. He's coming up at seven
o five. Uh, the government is still shut down? Will
be shutdown? End question mark? Will the GOP senators blink

(01:04):
and give in? That's a legitimate question imposed to Congressman
Warren Davidson among others, and followed by Empower You Seminar
Deanna Bainiky we should be a fun one history of
World War Two propaganda posters. Rosie the Riveter, I'm sure
is going to be among the multitude of propaganda posters
from World War Two. We hear from her at seven thirty.

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Talk about that. Empower You Seminar eighth five in studio,
Brother dre Andre Ewing, outspoken, well former Cincinni police officer
thirty years under his belt, proudly served the community and
is well ann outspoken critic of the current administration. Not
a huge fan of a have to have provol constantly

(01:46):
question this whole police chief thiji issue that's swirling around
and more information coming out about that. Several articles reporting
on it in the local news, most notably Enquire. Even
fellow Democrats criticizing the decision to remove police Chief DG
calling the situation chaotic. H Well, it is rather chaotic,

(02:11):
isn't it. In case you didn't get a chance to listen,
yesterday had her brother on Russ Neville, former cincint police
cap and retired. He was on talking about defending the
family name and the fact that they're dragging police Chief
DJ's name through the mud. Not cool, says Russ. Now
you can listen to the podcast if you five. Caresy
dot com also judge Nitapolitano, which is a story that

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is mind blowing that here in America we have people
who would arrest you for basically just the absolute ultimately
protected free political speech. That story was actually actually frightening
in a way. But anyway you can hear what the
Judge had to say and talk about it. Also make

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America sing again the Big Picture which Jack aten and
props again to Joe's Treker for the AI created image
there that went along with Jack's beautiful and informative and
also slightly lighthearted observations about music and politics. So it's
all there at fifty five Charasee dot com as always
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you can listen to wherever you happen to beat all
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Casey Morning Show, I will add. So there's your lineup
for this morning and of course tomorrow Tech Friday with
Dave Hatter and Corey Bowman with his presumably final appearance
on the fifty five Caarsee Morning Show before the election.
Hey guess what open voting's going on right now? And
I've been reading there's some recent articles and they interview

(03:39):
all it's always interviewing locally the same people. I think
Niven is his name. He's a political science professor at
University of Cincinnati, and a couple of other folks who
are regularly interviewed when it comes to you know, parsing
through the how's the election going to go? What's your
predictions on the outcome? And they've been following this stuff
still predicting a very low voter turnout, which is so disheartening.

(04:00):
Both I believe that those that were interviewed, and I'm
doing this from recollection, I don't have it in front
of me, apologies, but still expecting somewhere on the order
of about a twenty five percent voter turnout in downtown Cincinnati.
If you're listening to me and you have you're eligible
to vote in downtown, all I can do is emphasize
how powerful your vote is. If twenty five percent of
the population of the city is going to determine the

(04:22):
future of the city, isn't that frightening. You're walking down
the street looking at a multitude of people. Just assume
they're all residents of the city, and you're just one
out of every four. One out of every four people
are worried about what's going on in the city. Crime,
the right to self determination in any given community with

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regard to development, all these things that impact people day
in and day out. The freaking potholes that are on
your street. Remember Fred calling in real early on in
this week pothole discussion a couple of years ago, just
not just want my street fixed. Only Fred got his
street fixed, which is wonderful. So Fred, maybe it'll go

(05:03):
out his front door and drive down the street without
needing an alignment. But you know, as you turn the corner,
yet another street that's been left to fall apart and
crumble and decay over the years. This is a building problem,
much in the same way safety and crime has been
a building problem. We were low on police officers when

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they have to have. Parvall was sworn in as mayor.
The problem seems to have only gotten worse, I shouldn't
say seems to has only gotten worse. More people resigning,
more people, more police officers that are in the drop program,
which you know could last I think up the five
years through. In the middle of that, they're like, you
know what, screw it, I'm gone, I'm not sticking around.

(05:45):
The longer you stay in it, the more money you
get from the pension. But you know what, it's not
worth it. The problem has not gotten better. How many
police classes could we have had since Parvoll was sworn
in his mayor. How much money was diverted away from
the police department. I mean, these are all so fundamentally

(06:05):
important in terms of questions and how the city is run,
that you should be clamoring to get to the ballot
or to the polls, sitting around tapping your foot waiting
for the next election, so you can, you know, put
your foot down, or maybe bring about the change that
you're looking for people who are interested in serving the
community to have a better prioritization list. With regard to

(06:29):
government money, the limited amount of money that flows into
city government. We all know it's limited. That's why they
sold the railroad, at least the pretext for it. We
need more money. Look, we got more money coming in.
Where's it going? You got to marry prioritize, prioritizes green.
He said it out loud. Go look the record, the internet.

(06:50):
You know, things are on the internet. They never go away.
It's right there.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I view everything first priority from a green lens or
an environmental lens. What in the hell the city of
Cincinnati can do about the global warming? I don't know
how Bill Gates just gave up on the whole concept.
Now convenient for Bill Gates about his changing his narrative
on Oh my god, we're all going to die to
you know what, Na, We're not. We're not. Everything's going

(07:19):
to be fine. It will not lead to humanity's demise
now because his are his AI farms, These massive facilities
require a lot of power. He's changed gears. Hmm. Now
is that him putting his profits ahead of the planet.
They're accusing oil companies of that, just parenthetically want to

(07:41):
interject that, yes, profit over the planet. They're all going
to die thanks to the evil oil companies who are
responsible for a lot of things, including the existence of
in the ready availability of plastics. They need to be
sued into bankruptcy because well global warming. Well here's Bill Gates,
after years of you know, telling you that we need

(08:02):
to worry about this existential threat, now saying no, it's not.
It is not an existential threat. You know, we're gonna
all laugh about this some day. I can only pray

(08:24):
the American farmers. Currently number of cattle heads of beef
out in the world limited. We haven't had this few
beef cattle heads in the United States since the nineteen fifties.
Price of beef's gone up quite substantially. You may have
noticed that when you go to your grocery store. Donald

(08:44):
Trump's talking about importing beef from what Argentina to help
you and I deal with the price of beef, much
to the chagrin of the American farmer who was saying, no,
that's gonna hurt us. Great, go ahead and try to
figure that one out. We're gonna laugh someday that we
were I mean, cow flatulence for global temperature change. I mean,

(09:07):
just pause for a moment and think about the absurd
absurdity of that. And you know behind that is the
peda folks and the folks we shouldn't eat beef at
all because I don't know, it's immoral or something. They
were able to wrap all this up in one big, tight, convenient,

(09:28):
we're all going to die global warming climate change narrative.
But when reality shows up, when the pressure to adopt
an electric stove and ban gas stoves kicks in, when
the pressure to buy an electric vehicle and give up
your internal combustion engine finally comes home to roost, and

(09:51):
we all realize that the grid cannot handle these edicts
and mandates. Oh and then there's this whole artificial intell
diligence revolution going on that we need to get ahead
of otherwise the Chinese Communist Party is going to dominate
the industry and we're all going to lose our jobs,
which we may anyway because of AI, which regardless of

(10:11):
where it's created and and and and encouraged and developed,
it's coming here and we need power to do it.
So taxing the grid with all the global warming efforts
was one thing. Now that billionaire companies have realized that
they need massive amounts of stable power, they turn their

(10:32):
back on the green agenda. Bill Gates is just Domino
number one. You know, they're all going to join in
the course of this, all of them, because if they don't,
they're not going to get the electricity they need. But
thankfully because of them, well actually after learning, after after

(10:54):
their billions of dollars have been thrown at the effort
to convince us that our exhalation is killing us, they're
out using their billions of dollars to turn their back
on that and encourage like, for example, I've been mentioning
a lot lately nuclear power, which ultimately will inure to
our benefit. It's a crazy, crazy, crazy situation. I'm just

(11:14):
glad I was able to get it. It just lived
through this moment in time. Because all of this has
happened within the last like two two three decades, twenty
five years. We've gone from in my lifetime from we're
all going to die because the Earth is going to
what was it freeze? We're all going to freeze to death. Yeah,

(11:35):
I remember the in Search of episode with Leonard Nimoy. Yes,
back in the mid seventies, we were all going to freeze,
the death. The new ice Age is coming. Remember the
blizzards of the seventies here in this particular area of
the world, right, we're all going to die from freezing.
Back then, the temperatures would be lowered because the pollution
was going to block the rays of the sun, and

(11:55):
we were all going to die. Didn't work out, Huh,
let's change the discussion. Okay, the Sun is heating the
globe up. These gases, these pollutants are now trapping the
heat on the planet, which is causing the ice caps
to melt and the polar bears to die, and oh
my god, we're all gonna burn up and die. Nope,

(12:18):
that didn't happen either. Then it's just changed generally, which
allowed them to label any climate environ and any environmental
craziness going on, a hurricane, a tornado, whatever, all the
consequence of you and I breathing everything constantly moving target

(12:39):
and now apparently because we need electricity in abundant, never
ending supply, that argument is going by the wayside. Five
seventeen fifty five Krosea Detalk Station five one three seven
on a Friday, Eve five eighty two to three talk.

(12:59):
Let's go are the phones with Jay's guy this morning, Jay,
Happy Thursday. Welcome the show, Happy Thursday.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Brian, Hey, I'm listening from iHeartMedia app and I'm down
down in Florida on on work. Hey, I was listening
last night after work as everybody can to Brian Thomas
episodes on fifty five KRC app Art Listen to the
interview with Teresa Thigi's brothers, and no doubt that we

(13:30):
owe that family a debt of gratitude. But I am
I continually find myself these days on the other side
of the fence from a lot of conservatives and and
I let's not forget who Teresa Thigi is. The person
who Teresa Thiji ought to blame most for her demise
is herself. She was you go take a look at

(13:53):
her social media posts. Big believer in diversity, equity and inclusion,
huge porter of that. He knew when she got in
bed with the little commie the mayor there aftab that
what she was getting into. And as with all communists,
you'd go back and take a look at Stalin and

(14:14):
Paul Pott and all the rest of them. He's just
a little commy. They have a way of taking out
their own and just go back and take a look
at her statements after the beat down in downtown Cincinnati,
after Holly got punched in the face and Teresa THEGI
was wagging her chubby little finger and saying that you know,
social media didn't get the context, right, I e. That

(14:35):
means you all and me and everybody else we were
missing context, that there was something else in the video
that we didn't see, and immediately implying that there was
something that was validated that would cause that kind of
violent response. And here we are all these this time later,
and there is nothing. So she got caught up in

(14:59):
her own beliefs and you know, worshiping the DEI culture
that you know, I think would result in her getting
a job that she wasn't qualified for. So we don't
need to really rally around Teresa Beiji, in my humble opinion,
just like we don't need to rally around calling any
phone number to try to get this government open. Since

(15:19):
when has conservatives sit there and bit our fingernails, sweating
it out saying there's a call to action that we
got to get this federal government open, or we the
party that likes more government and likes more spending, we'd
like the trajectory of this federal government.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Jay, you've thrown in the towel. I guess you've completely
given up of the process.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, I love the process. If we go back to
the seventeen early.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Ageen, we're five, Jay, I'm trying to be practical in
a realist under current circumstances. I'm not going to wax
poetic about the way it used to be. I mean,
the process job, the process includes action by the citizen
r And I've heard it from every politician for the
last twenty years that I've been talking to on radio.
Those calls actually mean something to them. I mean, you

(16:05):
rarely hear from well you just got done saying here
from calls with oction go and coach with you like
it's going to happen like anything is going to make
a big difference. It may very well do.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I'm sorry misinterpretation that sounded like what is going to
be effected. I'm afraid it's going to be affected. Oh
you have we decided that we need more federal government
when you take a look at your faith check and
take a look at psycha.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
All right.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, the broader problem, obviously is the the insane size
scope and reckless spending and fraud, waste and abuse of
government programs. Generally speaking, the impact they have on our
freedoms and liberties all agree with you with all day long.
And it may take something like a all hell, I
don't know, a depression, the collapse of the fiad, currency violence, chaos,

(16:50):
massesterian the street to change the process and bring it
back to some measure of sanity, or bring about the
revolution that the leftists are looking for. But you know,
as of right now, I don't know the answer to
the problem. I just seems to me that logic, reason
and simple two and two is four mathematics would wake
people up to the reality we are broke. We're on

(17:13):
a perilous downward spiral. In terms of this spending of
federal government. What do we get from it? I'm with
you all day long, Jay, but I don't know the
answer to the question other than it's going to take
something catastrophic to bring us to wake up. What do
you think, Jay, I mean, seriously, what's it going to
take for the world to wake up to this insanity?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Well, I'm not sure I know the answer either, other
than right now, I think I like the direction we're
heading in where we've tried, Doge, We've tried all my
fifty some years old, We've tried to elect conservatives. They're
spending a fast or just a little bit slower than
the Democrats want us. Man, shutting the government down and
pushing the power and the money and the control back

(17:55):
to the States is a good first step. But so
here we are with an opportunity unity and the voices
now and this isn't directed to your brothers, so don't
don't don't don't think I'm throwing this at you, But
the voices on the writer saying, jeez, we've got to
reopen this federal government. Why how about how about we
we The way you if you want to reduce the
size and expense, is to is to shut it down

(18:17):
half of the year. And you know it's not a
full time job. Go up once a month for a
one week a month, right, you know, you do your
business and then go back to work.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, I think the big problem is if you've got
one of eight people on Snap, and you've got one
third of the of the entire US population receiving some
government service, some measure of assistance, and you stop that.
Even conservatives have to appreciate there could be a riot
on their hands. We already have people talking about rioting

(18:49):
and looting and stealing from snores merely because the three
hundred and fifty bucks a month they get from SNAP
benefits is going to be cut off. If three hundred
and fifty bucks is what exists between you and starvation,
and yeah, I can see people taking into the streets
on that. So while you want government to shut down,
you want people to just live without the insane spending
from federal government, the practical reality is you're gonna have

(19:10):
a lot of people who are hopeless, in desperation, perhaps
ignorant because of the failures of the education system, incapable
of taking care of themselves. Because of the promise of
government that they will be there to take care of you,
all of that evaporating. That's crisis. Republicans don't want to
own crisis. It's going to be great optics for the left.
Look at the chaos in the streets brought about by

(19:30):
these evil Republicans and folks like Jay who shut the
government down. Great idea conceptually, practically speaking, you got to
deal with the implications of doing just that. And I
don't think any of them have an answer to that,
and I don't think any of them want to find
out what it's going to look like, although maybe the
left is embracing the concept of that. Maybe that's what

(19:52):
they're looking for. They want chaos in the streets and
they'll keep the government shut down until it's brought about.
Appreciated Jay, as always five twenty nine. Right now if
you five kre see the talk station. Opportunity to get
plumb type plumbing on the job. You have a house,
you got a residence, right, let's get him in the
order in which there was See Patrick, you are number one.
Everybody else hang on and get right to you as
soon as I can. Patrick, thanks for calling.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Hey, good morning, Brian. Well you know part of the
here say a lot of a lot of Americans.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Patrick, you are breaking up to the point where I
can't hear but every third or fourth word.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
So I'm sorry. I'll call back.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Go ahead, see talk now, see if it works.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Okay, no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It's not, Patrick, but you're gonna have to call back
in it did. The line's a bad one. Who's next,
Joe Tracker or New Hampshire Gary, Welcome to the program.
Good to hear from you.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
How you doing, Brian Hey? Now that global warming is
not a threat. I was just wondering if this is
going to involve in removing all the small catalytic converter
conversions that we put on our vehicle swivel and add
god knows how much money to the price of a

(21:06):
new car. Now parasols, people pray, and how about.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, no, now, I I'll just give it on to
the idea of those I know they've added a lot
to the cost of the car. I know how expensive
they are. But if you are legitimately looking to get
real pollutants out of the air, those do serve to
do that, not carbon dioxide, which isn't a blanke and pollute.

(21:30):
I want to curse so many times when I come up,
when this topic comes up, I can barely restrain myself.
Carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant. Catalytic converters do not get
rid of carbon dioxide. We're not trying. We shouldn't be
trying to get rid of carbon dioxide. This is where
the whole thing went off the rails. We do and
always encourage getting rid of things like lead and mercury
and genuine pollutants which are documented to be carcinogetic or

(21:53):
bad or evil or whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I know.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Free on was, you know, the whole idea of the
hole in the ozone layer. That whole's gotten smaller. We
got rid of free on a long time ago. Let's
give a nod to the elimination of free on out
there of the world, because apparently it's going to be
protecting us from skin cancer or something. But at least
you can identify it as a non naturally occurring pollutant
worthy of getting rid of or argument. At least you
can make an argument for getting rid of it. Not

(22:18):
carbon dioxide.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
So what about what about scrubbers on electric plants?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Same thing, same thing. They've made coal production electricity clean
as a consequence of the scrubbers. Apparently scrubbers are a
technology that's affordable and easy or not easy to accomplish,
but at least it works to achieve the elimination of
the bad things like acid rain. That kind of stuff

(22:46):
that works for that carbon capture is where again we
went off the rails. It's just insanity. They're just trying
to find something else to force us into a corner
to well in the name of saving a planet, to
make life more difficult for all of us, to make
energy production that much more expensive. I mean, all I

(23:09):
can conclude after all of this nonsense is to a
nod to the people who've been complaining about they're wanting
to control us. Maureen, I'll acknowledge you population control. Maybe
I'm not sure all of it though, if you step back,
looks crazy and maybe we're all waking up to that,

(23:29):
and I sure as hell hope we are. By thirty six,
it looks like Tom and Bobby are on the phone.
We'll get to the calls if you don't mind holding
for it. By forty one fifty five Karsite talk station.
Happy Friday, Eve, gonna go straight to the phone's Let
you have Patrick another shot, Tom, Bobby, Hang on a second, Patrick,
Let's give it a try. Hey, Brian, how's this much better?

Speaker 6 (23:49):
A little bit better? Yeah, okay, Yeah, I apologize about that.
I was going down his zero's cell phone. But so anyway,
the reason that I called is that, you know the
problem that we can in this country is that we
have created a culture to where we have allowed people
to have too much entitlement as far as their their

(24:10):
personal belongings. And what I'm getting at is that, you know,
the people that want to get hooked into the government
programs are sitting here with you know, high dollar cell phones,
you know, high speed internet. You know, they're driving around
in cars. So my question is is that you know,
if you have the ability to afford all of this,

(24:32):
then you know, what are you really that worried about?
You know, why are you hooked up to this government
program to begin with? You know, where did we get
into the culture of you know, well, hey, if I
just need more money a month, I'll just pop another
kid out. And that is part of the problem where
we have created this. And then you know, the government

(24:52):
just turns around and says, oh, here you need more, Well,
here's another spoonful of government program for you, and then
what runs out money? They're in a panic. We let
people take a look at your life and take a
look at how you've lifted and start being responsible. And
I see elderly people that can't even afford medicine that
they desperately need. And then these people are out there

(25:16):
on their one hundred dollars cell phones crying about this.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
One hundred thousand thousand dollars cell phones. Yeah, if, oh,
if we only lived in a time where the cell
phones are merely one hundred dollars, then you got that
pesky monthly fee to use the cell phone. And then
you have to have your Netflix service and your Hulu service,
and your Amazon Prime service and your Hbo Plus, and

(25:41):
you got to be It goes on and on and on.
Every dollar the federal government goes toward your food, or
your housing, or your healthcare. That frees up money so
you can buy these other things that you deem crucial
and integral to your life and necessary and must have.
It's like internet access you and I have in the
American taxpayer paying to bring internet access to literally every man,

(26:02):
woman and child in America. Why because well we all
need it, I guess Tom. Welcome to the Morning Show.
Thanks for holding.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
Yeah, good morning, and Patrick, I feel your pain. I'm
getting learning better and better as I come up to
this job more often where my dead spots are and
uh yeah, I was right in the middle of one yesterday,
so I wasn't able to finish my thoughts. So I
think what I think what Jay was. The argument that
Jay is hitting on and that you are arguing back with,

(26:33):
is we're we're all trying to come up with a
landing way to land like you're you're kind of maybe
you're not thinking you're doing this, but you're kind of
advocating for a softer landing because of the potential riots
that might happen. And Jay's like, screw it, I don't care.

(26:53):
Let's just lay in this thing. Let's try and burn
and I and I get I get both both arguments.
I do because because regardless of how it lands, uh,
this thing's coming down eventually. It's gonna happen one way
or another. So we either start bringing it down ourselves
and the politicians don't want to be blamed for crashing

(27:16):
and burning, but it's it's gotta come down. It cannot
stay afloat. It has to uh. And and what Patrick
was touching on is, uh, at some point we've been
talking about this, You're gonna feel some pain. Everybody's gonna
have to feel some pain. And unfortunately, the people who
have put themselves or allowed themselves to stay in a

(27:38):
position where they are dependent upon the government are are
going to feel it really bad. They're gonna they're gonna
get hit. They're getting ready, no member first, and getting
ready snap paint. There's no money for snap. Okay, that
that's a wow, that's holy crap. What are we gonna do. Well,
what we're gonna do is we're gonna we're gonna buckle
up and figure out a way to get through this.

(27:59):
That's what he individual person has to deal with. And
I'm not trying to say it's easy.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's not.

Speaker 8 (28:04):
It's going to suck. It's gonna suck for all of us.
But if we're gonna either we're gonna run out of
money giving it all away, or we're gonna run out
of money, and it's gonna take a little longer because
we're gonna, little by a little start chipping away at it,
bringing it back. How little exactly that is I don't know,
but it takes people with Judge to say, I understand
this is going to hurt. I'm really sorry, this is

(28:25):
gonna hurt, but we've got to do something to fix this.
We've got to bring it down and nobody wants to
be the person from the family and go, I understand
this is going to hurt. And we're not doing it
like the Democrats are doing it to try to win
something politically. Well, that's not why it's going to hurt.
It's gonna hurt because we're running out of money, folks. Yeah,
we gotta do something about this, and we're not gonna

(28:46):
do it with Rhinos and Democrats. They're just gonna spend
it all and we're gonna come straight down, crash and burn,
and it's gonna hurt by catastrophically. Don't vote Rhino and
don't vote Democrat.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Have a great day for thanks, Tom, appreciate it. One
of the un necessarily advocating for the soft flaning. I'm
just merely trying to explain what I believe, what I
perceive personally. We all know what opinions are like. The
political dynamic that their elected officials are wrestling with is
it going to be chaotic or is it going to
be a softer approach to this? But fundamentally, I think

(29:18):
Tom's right. We either fix the problem, you know, I
keep the government shut down, bring this situation to people's awareness,
recognize that opening the government up under belong the Democrats'
terms and conditions are going to add additional one point
five trillion dollars to the national debt, or going to
start chipping away at the national debt slowly and surely
and methodically, like for example, with one of Senator Ran

(29:40):
Paul's proposals, like the one percent of the five percent plan.
Something has got to give five forty seven and fifty
five kcity talk stations. You do, and you go straight
to the phones. Bobby's been on hold. Bobby, thanks for holding.
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
Happy surgedy, My brother right at you. Sits flag, family
and farms.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
You keep those. You're all always have your freedom.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, well, I think the latter's becoming more and more
appropriate to think about. But yeah, go ahead, Bobby. What's
you going today?

Speaker 7 (30:07):
Well, I'm discussed about the pollutants and everything that we're
trying to get rid of. Your socialist Democrats and your
biggest pollutants that you ever had. They polluted society, they
polluted the mindset of people around you. This shutdown that
we have, I hope it goes another sixty days. That way,

(30:28):
at the end of the year, all these subsidies and
everything will go by the wayside. It'll be cold and
wet outside, and these left wing Marxists aren't going to
get on the street and protest when it's raining and cold.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well, there you go. That may be they are only
source of revenue since these are funded by multi billionaire
entities out in the world. They get paid to show
up and protest. Bobby, maybe there'll be more of them
since they're not getting their snap benefits or something. I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
They're worried about these subsidies and everything. They'll expire after
the first of the year. Hang on there, they can't
wait another sixty days.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Well, no, they are going to a Yeah, the legislation
itself said the subsidies for Obamacare expire at the end
of the year. Who's responsible for the termination of that.
The Democrats. It was their bill, they passed it, they
put it in there, So the subsidies end thanks to
the Democrats. Period end of story. Whether the government's open
or shut down, they end as a matter of law.

(31:21):
So wait for it.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
And and I tell you something else. Support your police
chiefs down there, that they went ahead and did what
they did too. Yeah, you got to look at what
they've done for the poor lady and everything she supported
her life and everything support the city to protect and serve.
I don't care about DEI dea and all the other
letters you want to do in this scrabble sit. It

(31:44):
doesn't matter. These people, these socialist democrats, will go ahead
and cut off anybody's head to go ahead and prove
their points. Yeah, they're the ones that are the problem.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
That's a boxer from Animal Farm. If you're not familiar
with the character, read the book. Do you some good.
Appreciate the call, Bobby as always, thanks brother. Yeah, and
you know, let's say we want to put police chief
three Sthigia. I think she was doing what she was
told to do, you know, and not I think it
was jay Or in the program I'm talking about her,
you know, posting woke things and you know, embracing d
or whatever that's her boss. I think she was doing

(32:20):
what her boss told her to do, right or wrong.
I mean if you I personally wouldn't say I've said
it before. Like if I was told I had to
say something specifically on the program. My boss came and said,
you must speak about this political topic, or you must
characterize this political topic in a certain way. You must
have this conclusion, I'd quit. Some people need their job.

(32:50):
They're willing to sacrifice maybe their belief systems, their thirty
five years in law enforcement, and their knowledge of best
practices in favor of doing what their bosses tell them
to do. And ultimately, I think that's probably what's going
to come out of all this, This idea of investigating
Thiji with this law firmed look into her years as
police chief to find out if there's anything at all

(33:11):
that she's done that might serve to justify they're already
executed decision to put her on administrative leave. What was
the predicate for that? Does anybody know yet? Nope, we
don't know. They don't have anything, and they would have
told you. I think, ultimately what's going to happen The
investigation revealed that she was doing what she was told

(33:33):
to do, perhaps even over her own objections. Fifty five
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Ryan Thomas inviting phone calls. Interesting conversation gone in the
last hour, so much so, conversation continued all the way
through the stack of stupid five one, three, seven, fifty eight,
eighty two to three talk found five fifty on eight
and two film. You can extend that conversation. We'll do
so in just a moment. Here we'll remind you. Coming
up in an hour, Congressman Warren Davidson returns. Will the

(34:14):
shutdown ever? And maybe it won't? What does that mean?
We'll get to that here. Well, the GOP senators blink
and give in. We'll talk to Congressman Davidson about that,
coming up in an hour, followed by the Empire you
use seminar Deanna Binki, it's I believe I'm pronouncing that
reck Apologies, Yankee. Well, we're gonna hear from her doing

(34:34):
a seminar about the history of World War two. Propaganda
poster should be a real interesting and enlightening seminar that'll
take place at seven thirty the initial discussion and Andre
Ewing brother Dre thirty years a story, law enforcement career,
outspoken critic of the City of Cincinnati, advocate for maybe
going a different direction, like voting for Corey Bowman elections

(34:55):
going on right now. You can go ahead and vote
and please steer the city of the Cincinnati in a
different path. Question up. I just got a text earlier
in the morning from Christopher's Smith and Democrats are the
council apparently? And I please explain how one hund percent
of the Democratics since a city council and county are
complaining about SNAP benefits being close to being cut off

(35:17):
November first, there is a cutoff date. And I had
to ask him, Are you telling me that members of
council are complaining about SNAP coming up? Yes, they are,
all right. Have any of them asked for the government
to reopen? Any of them pointing at the Democrats are
the ones that are keeping the government shut down? No,

(35:41):
of course not. It's a legitimate question, Christopher. I appreciate
you bringing to my attention. Okay, and I want to
pivot over to this because this all ties into what
we're talking about in the last hour, this shutdown, okay,
And my view of the Republican's position on this is
they're worried on some level about the anger violence, people

(36:02):
taking it to the streets, the threats that are already
coming out on social media. If you cut off my
snap benefits, you know, I'm gonna riot, I'm gonna steal,
I'm gonna loot, I'm gonna pillage, blah blah blah blah blah. Okay,
all right, And that's of course going on with regard
to the Trump administration's efforts to remove the most dangerous
of illegal immigrants in our country. You see all the
ANTIFA protests, people interfering with federal law enforcement. Federal law

(36:27):
is being enforced. The laws are on the books, the
federal law enforcement officers are there to enforce the law.
What do you get, You get a rebellion from a
slice of the population. And finally, I'm glad to see
the Trump administration in addition to taking very paying very
close attention to the organizational structure behind Antifah and these

(36:51):
other left wing organizations, they are very well organized and
very funded. They can trace the dollars. You can see
the activists all dressed up in their you know, Communist
Party issued black garb, and with all having the same
designer mask and the designer tent and everything. It's obviously

(37:11):
a funded effort. They all look like they're members of
the same army, don't they. That's curious. Feds just nabbed
anti ICE activists in LA not illegal immigrants. Federal authorities
just yesterday arrested anti at least one anti ICE protester.

(37:33):
But they are going after the organizational structure of the
protesters themselves. There are multiple protest organizations, all seem to
be coordinated in an effort. This is segue to basically
a RICO action, coordinated activity among multiple people for the
purpose of committing crimes. That is basically right there in

(37:55):
the RICO wheelhouse. Maybe we'll be able to go after
these organizations and prosecute them, but ultimately, what are these
organizations after? And that's why I got to turn to
the words of Larry Clayman. You may have heard of him.
He is the founder of Judicial Watch as well as

(38:15):
Freedom Watch. He's an attorney and outspoken attorney. He's been
behind a lot of lawsuits in the past, most notably
against the Clinton administration. And he's been labeled a conspiracy
theorists and a racist, and of course all the labels
that are easily apply to literally anyone who's on the
other side of the left wing cause. But here's what
he had to say. And this concerns me because I

(38:39):
think he's right. So President Trump has been incredibly successful
in what he's done. He's not just shutting down the
border or negotiating peace treaties, and not to President Trump
yesterday working it out with Jijinping and getting some relief
perhaps on fentanyl with these tariffs. Anyway, it's the record
stock market and the economy is generally doing very well.

(39:00):
That inflation is coming down because of that success, he says.
Even Bill Maher says Trump has been successful. The Democrats
are panicking. And here's where he gets to the point.
They realize the only thing they can do is foment revolution.
They realize, as Karl Marx realized and Sawlolensky realized, that
the way you take control of society is to destabilize it.

(39:24):
You destabilize it by destroying Judeo Christian values. You destabilize
it by creating civil unrest and revolution. And he mentioned
info Wars, and you know, I got a huge jaundiceiahed
skepticism over info wars. Conceptually speaking, I know they foment
conspiracy theories all the time. They've been called out as
being wrong variety of times, but they're not always wrong.

(39:47):
And he mentions this report from info wars, and it'll
pivot over to it. The Democratic Party is officially bragging
that they are going to use the EBT Snap Benefit
shutdown to trigger mass looting and civil unrest in the
hope of igniting a civil war. Now that sounds a
little bold in its pronouncement. Is this really that coordinating?
Is this ultimately what they are really shooting for? And

(40:10):
so back to Claiman in response to that reporting from
info Wars, he said what was published in info wars
was not way out. It's absolutely correct, and that is
exactly what they are going to do. It will be
food riots and everything else. We've seen two assassination attempts
on President Trump. We've seen a bounty on the head
of Pam Bondi. We've seen the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

(40:30):
We've seen leaders in Chicago, and the governor of Illinois,
the mayor of Boston, Massachusetts, and all around the country
Portland and Seattle, all calling for violence. And here's the
concerning part that he comes to a conclusion over we
are in a situation where President Trump would be correct
in using the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven and

(40:53):
declaring martial law. I believe he's about ready to do it.
Then he goes on and talks to the number of
times martial law has been declared and that you know,
will be valid and justifiable in this situation. And that
really really concerns me. If the government stays shut down
and these food riots from a start, and the streets

(41:16):
and there is more protesting, more anti people gathering together,
more reasons to be angry at the government, more people
coming out of the streets, it would provide a justification
for martial lawn. I think that's what they want. And
it always worried me to a certain extent about Trump
sending in federal authorities into these various cities under the
pretext of enforcing federal law, again, which is justifiable and

(41:39):
a valid use of federal resources and law enforcement resources,
because it's federal property and local law enforcement isn't enforcing
state law to protect that property, or the federal officers
who are endeavoring to enforce federal law. But the presence
of them there gives these left winging nut jobs an
excuse to scream about, Yeah, oh my god, martial law.
Look at Donald Trump taking over our cities with the

(42:00):
federal with with with the army. Ah See, you get
used to the concept of them being there. And then
when martial laws actually declared, boy won't hit the fan.
And social and civil libertarians like myself who believe in
freedom and liberty, you know, come to the cause and say,
you know what, martial laws being declared. They suspended habeas corpus,

(42:23):
giving the federal government the right to lock people up.
A h something Judge Enteropolitana talked about just yesterday with
regard to someone's free speech ends up landing in jail
over a comment, a random comment that was taken completely
out of context by law enforcement. Hey, you're not gonna
get your day in court if martial law's declared. That's
kind of frightening stuff. So we have in an unstable situation, clearly,

(42:48):
But I do believe there's that legitimate concern looming in
the background over the shutdown, that something like this may
very well come about, and it's worth making a note,
which is the only reason I bring it up. Now,
Do I believe we're right there? I don't want to.
I don't want to. But there's such powerful forces and

(43:12):
money interest globally lining up to seemingly desire exactly that,
and it's a scary circumstance we find ourselves in. Six fifty,
Mississippi James. If you don't mind holding for a moment,
I'll be happy to take your station. Six twenty fifty

(43:34):
five KERCIT talk station Happy Thursday five one, three, seven,
four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eighty two to
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Mississippi James. Good to hear from you, my friend. Welcome
back to the show, all right, man.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I come in peace, love everybody, and there's nothing you
can do about it. Hey, I've been sitting here taking
my notes, and I jotted down three things and I
try to get through them real quick, yep. And the
first it's being the police chief now ftab what he's
investigating her hire at this firm or whatever they're doing.

(44:07):
That was a stalling tactic. Yes, you know, to get
past the election. I think we most of.

Speaker 7 (44:13):
Us know that.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yes, because if he's stay in his mayor, he can
shape it anyway he wants to. If he loses mayor,
is not his problem anymore. Go to the next person
what they do with their chief.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
All right, clearly, yes, you're right that on Mississippi, James.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
And another thing what will deep into right now is classicism.
You know, sometime we bounce into racism, socialism, and classism.
So what we got most people looking at social welfare
and blue collar crime, they do exist, but nobody's paying
attention to corporate welfare and white collar crime, and they

(44:55):
running them up. A white collar crime and the corporate
way of fare well.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I will acknowledge corporate welfare in the form of the
United States tax code. There's all kinds of provisions built
in there to help the extraordinarily wealthy corporate folks, uh
with carve outs and exclusions and right off, etcetera. So
it's built that way. I agree with that all day long.
We facilitated via the tax code. But specifically, in so
far as corporate crime is concerned, do you have a

(45:26):
specific illustration or example you want to cite for my listeners.
Because I agree there is a thing on a corporate
level that is criminal, but I don't know that it's
necessarily rampant right now, and I don't necessarily believe that
the powers that be, the US Justice Department is not
looking into it.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
But what do you think, James, Well, it's not on
most people radar to common work in person radar right now.
Right the you know, the Defense Department and everybody else
may be looking into it. But we're talking about the
thing is stick right now. You know the lint they say, yeah,
what you call it? Like a splinter in your finger.

(46:03):
That's the stuff that's happening right now. And that's the
social welfare and the blue collar crimes. They're important, but
they're taking over. For instance, Okay, I did a little
research and back from the eighties, corporation paid to the
average working person was thirty dollars to one. That was
a good balance. The last survey they did of twenty

(46:27):
four it's up to three hundred to one. That's a
big gap. Of CEOs are getting big gap to change
to get up there. Now we know any time the
government guarantees something in insurance. The price took triple a quadriple. Yeah,
there's no reason for it, but hey, the government paid

(46:48):
for it. Why not get the most we can get out.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Of you remove market forces from the equation, Yes, you
have a total The word I want to use is
not FCC compliant, but it definitely definitely mixes or up
causes problems with with with rationality. You know, market forces
will force you know, the price controls and structure. It's

(47:14):
just a practical reality. Government steps in and says you
must pay. This is like rent control. You know, you
cannot charge more than this than rent. The whole system
gets thrown out of whack.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, and then we go through trying to get it
back in whack. But like I say, right now, yeah,
we're going into uh well deep into classes you know.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
And why.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
They haven't had not I you know, there is no
way to change that. You know, the poor you will
always have among you believe with Jesus who said something
along those lines. There is always going to be inequity.
There's always going to be differences in people's abilities. It
is built into our DNA. Some people are cognitively impaired.
Maybe we should help them out. If you're not cognitively impaired.

(48:01):
I think there's an expectation from a lot of people
that you should at least try to fend for yourself
and put in a hard day's work for pay. You know,
those who can contribute should contribute. I mean, we've gotten
to this ridiculous reality that, oh my god, that person
makes more. That's not fair, And I just call absolute
foul on that. No, it is fair for whatever reason

(48:22):
they were able to accomplish more. And you shouldn't walk
it around being greedy and covetous and envious over it
and create a social structure that's based on redistributing somebody
else's large ass. You know, be happy for other people
who've done well because of them. The whole society works. Look,
they're buying stuff, you know, every time there's rich people
go out and buy something. They're supporting somebody else's job.

(48:46):
You know, I just don't understand how this concept can
take hold, and it's all built on envy. It seems
to me that it's all this socialism and communism is
built on envy, and the only people will ultimately benefit
of it other people who are stirring the pot of
envy and telling you that it's okay for you to
take somebody else's labor via a government program or directly

(49:11):
through the taxation system or whatever. It's not fair. The
rich aren't paying their fair share. Have you ever been
told what is fair? No, it's a constantly moving target.
You know, it's fair that you're born and you get
the freedom and liberty to self control the direction of

(49:34):
your life. That's the beautiful thing about America. Nobody else
has got it. You at least have that option here.
And also remember, and so far as this shutdown is concerned,
and the idea that we might have snap benefits, riots
or something in the street, the government that feeds you

(49:57):
can also starve you wrap your head around that. Six
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(50:17):
Interesting comment from my wife where I jump over to
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Start to show off with Anama the song by Tool,
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although it's just fill with FCC non compliant words, they

(50:43):
make a great point. My wife chimed in on that
this morning. Thank you, Paul Atte, You put a smile
on my face. People need to learn to swim. Learn
to swim, Learn to swim, Learn to swim. Corey, welcome
to the morning show. Thanks for calling this morning, and
a happy Thursday to you, sir.

Speaker 10 (51:01):
Happy Thursday, Bryan hundred cent A right to learn to
swim because moms want to flush.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
All the ways you know.

Speaker 10 (51:10):
Oh yeah, anyway, I know I called them years ago
when talked about civil war then, but I think it's
inevitable and I think that's the ultimate game plan that
they want. They want a civil war to over three
United States. Is the last Democrats, Liberals. They absolutely despise
the United States. They hate us, to hate me, to

(51:31):
hate you for the god we worship, for the type
of car we drive, for the wanting to own a
certain type of gun to hate us for all that,
and they want us to it is us versus them
type thing, And unfortunately, I think a lot of the
rhinos are right in the step with them. Where is

(51:52):
this example of about three weeks ago now, there's a
bill introduced in Columbus to allow members of Congress in
Ohio to be able to steal carry in federal buildings
and all government buildings for their safety, but not ours.
We're not allowed that right.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
It's a for me not the type thing.

Speaker 10 (52:15):
And that's how most of the government operates. They every
law that hurts somebody, they have their own carve out
where they're exempt from it. Like the sporting events. Talk
about being able to protect yourself at Cincinnati for a
Bengals game where crimes run a rampant, you are disarmed
if you want to go to a Bengals game, But

(52:36):
if you're a retired cop or lost duty cop, you're
allowed to carry there. But why can't I carry there
even though it is a taxpayer funded stadium, which should
fall under nine dot six eight, which local unicipalities aren't
allowed to enact their own gun control all, but yet
they still do it. But they always have the carve outs.

(52:56):
For themselves but not us. And I think it's all
done on purpose the whole. I agree, learnest wins as
it's all coming crashing.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Down well and gues. This is my point about the
socialist revolution. And they keep screaming about, you know, wealth redistribution,
whatever motivates them to get out of the streets and
want to tear down the inherently evil, born of original sin,
racist government of the United States of America. Blah blah
blah blah blah. Fine, what are you going to replace
it with? Where do you think all of this money
comes from? That runs the globe? The reason Donald Trump

(53:29):
has leveraged with any given countries because we are so
overwhelmingly economically powerful, we basically motivate and run the planet,
you know. I mean, it's that profound difference between the
United States wealth and the rest of the world. So
they'll use that as an argument to sort of level
things out. What I say is by leveling them out,
you are basically taking away that government meal out of

(53:52):
your mouth. That everybody that depends on government is depending
upon people who are willing to go out and work
from whom they take taxes and revenue. Obviously, not enough
to fund the whole thing. Given thirty eight trillion dollars
in the hole we've printed ourselves into. But without motivating
people to work, your whole system of your your theory collapses.

(54:13):
Yamo Ron's I mean, God almighty, this is what happens
every single time this exercise has been tried in the
course of humanity. Socialism breeds laziness. You people out there
that believe that this, this whole wealthy distribution thing is

(54:35):
you're angry or envious or whatever's motivating you look a
step forward after you bring about that reality. Do you
think that I or anybody legitimately is gonna bust their
hump working?

Speaker 11 (54:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Why would you if you're not gonna at the benefit
of that extra effort that you engage in which from
a meritocracy standpoint, makes you stand out compared to your peers.
Why did that guy get a raised, Why did that
guy get promoted? Because he was the guy busting his hump.
He was the one burning them in night oil. He

(55:20):
was the one that come up with the new researches
and theories and ideas and inventions and things that make
humanity better or at least products and services that people
have a demand for because it's going to make their
lives easier, or they figure it's worth spending money on
whatever product or servant is that. That smart guy, the
guy that busted his hump created why did he bother
creating it because he knew it was going to le

(55:40):
newer to his benefit or her as the case. Maybe
that's what makes society work, the benefit you get from
your extra labor, or if you choose not to engage
in labor, you choose not to engage in in educating yourself,
you choose to sit around on the couch and contemplate
your navel all day. I know what's going to happen.

(56:00):
You're gonna get left behind and you're gonna be angry
and envious at some point that you know, you looked
at your you looking back at your life. How did
all you under this place? It must be because the
society is racist or evil or whatever. That rich person
stole it all from me here, Why is he deserving
of that stuff? And well, I think I know the

(56:21):
answer to that. Just look one step beyond and you
will see that it won't work. It can't work. I
wouldn't go to work in a society that's built on
that from each accordion's ability, each according to his need.
Guess what I no longer have ability? Period? End of story.
I quit. I'm gonna contemplate my navel. Please feed me

(56:41):
six point thirty seven right now, fifty five krs detalk
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Neville on yesterday retired Captain Neville most of thirty four
years of services since I Police Department, defending his sister
in police chief threes a thiji Uh. Let's go to
the folks who al Vicky's got this morning. Vicky, thanks

(57:01):
so much for calling. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (57:04):
Hi, Brian, Hey, got to break it down. You're doing great,
but you got to break down a little bit more
so some people can can feel it better. Money explain
something to people that operate off the emotion instead of
logic and reason. You have to break it down to
what they can feel. Okay, So, if you don't have
professional people, if you don't have people that know how
to do HVACT, if you don't have or repair clean

(57:26):
water to operate, the water treatment plants, the sewage treatment plants,
the electrical grid, the cybergrids, all these things that make
a country work and operate and produce. Manufacturing things like
this that have some skills, whether the brick layers which

(57:47):
are great, or contractors great, all these plumbing. If you
don't have professionals or electricians, if you don't prevent have
professionals that know how to do these things, you're going
to feel it. You're not going to have warm house
or a warm apartment. You're not going to have You're
not gonna have clean water. You're not gonna have sewage removal,

(58:09):
You're not water treatment. Is going to be messed up.
Everything is going to be screwed up and messed up.
Everything's going to be a mess if if you don't
have people that are willing to actually work socialism, I
am afraid this time. Because they got thirty to fifty
million extra people here. The burden is now is breaking

(58:29):
the backs of the people that are paying the system.
Because we don't know the other ones are not necessarily
paying into the system. Because we don't even know how
many people are here, then we don't have records of it.
We don't have maybe legit records, well they could be fake,
ID we have no clue what all the Biden administration did.
So here you go, and it's what they're trying to

(58:52):
overwhelm the system and coward coward live into.

Speaker 7 (58:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, but over the system leads about to the exactly
what I was talking about, what you're elaborating on, which
is the collapse of the working society leading to misery
and pain for literally everyone. That's the next step, that's
the one they don't think about while they're running around
screaming about how unfair it is that you have more
than me.

Speaker 12 (59:17):
You know that this is not right. Get off your
you know, but and try to contribute a little bit,
doing something something and have some pride in yourself. Used
to be used to be you didn't have if if
if if a man didn't work and his wife had

(59:38):
to work, for instance, I'm just going back away, and
before I.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Know there you're talking about Yeah, if you to your.

Speaker 12 (59:44):
Dad, dear. It used to be that that was a
shame and a sin. Now now it's not. It's like
I don't care and you know, just let your family go.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Well, that's because the left hast sown the Left has
exclude sloth and lethargy by saying it's not your fault
you are lazy and lethargic, it's the fault of society.
You've been dealt a bad hand. It's baked into the cake.
You are not going to be able to be successful
in this world. And there are so many people that
have been brought up in an environment where they are
told that over and over again as a young person,

(01:00:14):
that it's a pointless exercise to engage. You're merely enabling
the whatever system, and you're perpetuating this unfairness. So don't bother.
It's not worth your effort. And that creates a dependent,
that creates an ignorant dependent on society who feels free
to be lazy and lethargic and not do anything because
he's been told that it's aoka because all you're doing

(01:00:36):
is fighting the man. Six forty six, Mike, hang on
your next fifty five KRC the talk station. So is
that Low's camp from Cross Company the talk station. It
is six point fifty coming up in six fifty one
to fifty five KRC detalk station. Very happy, try to
make it a happy Thursday. Anyway, go to the phones's

(01:00:59):
got Michael, Mike, thanks so much for holding over the break.

Speaker 13 (01:01:01):
Welcome to the show, Hi, Bryan, Real quick about the
shutdown the highlight on YouTube their day. It's actually it
was CNN was asking the Democrats that some senator they
had on why is it when the Republicans at this time,
when the Republicans are trying to pass the clean cr

(01:01:23):
and they have control of the House and the Senate
for the dinnant, the Democrats don't want to pass it,
it's the Republicans fault. But when it's the other way around,
when Biden and Obama was an office and they had
control of it, it was the Republicans fault because they
didn't want to vote for it, right, And this was
CNN saying this, oh yeah, yeah, and they're turning against them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Well, and you know, Mike, I think up until recent
a recent moment in time ago in history, they could
get away with that argument. First off, mostly because the
American people are politically ignorant and refuse to pay attention
to the minutia of politics. They just listened to the
sound bite Republicans responsible shut down, and that's all They'll
digest and so if you have a mainstream media and

(01:02:04):
nobody can deny this. This is not a conspiracy theory.
It's just plain old reality that the vast majority of
the mainstream traditional media outlets, legacy media they call it
these days, are in bed with the left. So all
your college educated journalists come out with their left wing
ideology and they go work for CNN and then they
parrot this nonsense and blame Republicans literally for everything. And

(01:02:25):
this is the narrative that creeps out. So even the
most ill informed politically people are going to get some
messaging out there. It's gonna come in the form of
a meme, or it's gonna come in the form of
this repeated background news flash that coming up at eleven,
you know, Republicans responsible for shutdown. That's all they get.
They'll tune into the news program to find out, even
though it'll be biased reporting along those lines, but it's

(01:02:45):
just that's what they hear. That's not the case anymore.
We're not consuming that crap as much anymore. To a
substantially lesser degree. You can go on to multitude of
sites and see a multitude of perspective, and you know,
if you're willing to pay attention, and sadly not enough
people are. But if you're willing to pay attention, you
see exactly what you just said. How is it could

(01:03:08):
possibly be when the Democrats are asking for a cr
that's clean and the Republicans say no, that it's the
Republican's fault, and the exact polar opposite is happening right now,
but it's still the Republican's fault. That's a legitimate point
to make. But you've got to know your history about
shutdowns to even understand that. And who among us has
bothered to take the time to look at the history
of shutdowns? Who even remembers the last one? Yeah, I know,

(01:03:31):
you might remember conceptually that it happened. And he keeps
coming up with the news that, oh, this is the
coming up on the longest shutdown ever in American history.
But are you scarred? Are you still feeling the pain
and bruises from the last one? I'm willing to guess no,
that none of our lives were perpetually impacted by a
temporary pause in the government doing its well at least

(01:03:55):
unnecessary business. Hot onno the collar. This morning, my wife
keeps chiming in on it. Thank you, honey, I appreciate it.
I feel like I am on a bit of a
tear this morning. I don't know. I'm just frustrated to

(01:04:17):
a certain degree. But the last one Color had mentioned
the trades and how important they are, and I thought
of that she was talking about this. It is yet
one more article about the tens of thousands of white
collar jobs that are disappearing because of yes, artificial intelligence.

(01:04:37):
Amazon fourteen thousand corporate jobs cut ups cutting. They announced
earlier this week they're reducing their workforce by about fourteen
thousand positions. Again, these are not the folks delivering your packages,
something that AI cannot replace. These are corporate jobs. Target

(01:04:57):
eighteen hundred corporate jobs. Rivian had cut a whole bunch
of its workforce as well. On and on it goes
because of artificial intelligence. So this is the reality we're
having to live with. But if you listen to that
caller and you think about jobs that don't artificial intelligence
can't create, that's where opportunity lies. That's where even folks

(01:05:22):
that just maybe have a high school education, you can
still live, thrive, and survive by pursuing a job that
AI cannot replace, and Joe had pointed out while she
was talking, there's a South Park episode on that. Yes,

(01:05:43):
there is, magically as if overnight. The wealthiest people in
society are your plumbers, your repair people, the folks who
know how to replace the or fix the oven door
that will not stay shut. Congressman Warren Davison after the
top of the air news, Well, this shutdown ever, and
we'll find out from Congressman davids can at least get
his opinion on that. Plus Soto six here at pety

(01:06:19):
about krocdcalk station after Friday. Welcome back. Always a distinct
pleasure to invite Congressman Warren Davidson on the program. I
appreciate your willingness to accept that imitation. Congressman Warren Davidson,
Welcome back.

Speaker 11 (01:06:32):
Always an honor. Nice to talk with you. Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
All right, so we're still shut down. I know everybody
knows that. Can I characterize it this way?

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
The Senate Republicans have voted thirteen times to fund snap.
Democrats have voted thirteen times to not fund a snap.
Is that a fair way of characterizing the current situation?
Congressman Davidson, Yeah, that's have been called and recorded. That's
that's the lay of the land right now. Now, I
guess the big question is this blame game keep swirling around.

(01:07:02):
But I am a little disheartened and a little concerned
about these widespread posts on social media that you know,
the moment Snap gets cut off, there's going to be
riots in the streets, and some people are suggesting that's
exactly what the Democrats want. They are literally bringing pain
to the American people, and I think it's time for
us all to collectively reflect on why that pain can
be brought about. In other words, we are dependent overwhelmingly

(01:07:25):
so on government, which is a scary place to be.
But this is this is the only conclusion I can reach.
They want us to be in pain in return for
which we have to give them a one to awo
point five trillion dollars in additional spending so we can
what fun to the foe that the faux reality that
Obamacare actually works, and also give a lot of help

(01:07:45):
to illegal immigrants in our country.

Speaker 11 (01:07:47):
Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean that's the strategy. Catherine Clark
and others, she's the majority or minority whip. The Democrat whip,
so one of the leadership positions in the House exactly
what she said. You know, we know that it'll be suffering,
but that's leverage for us. They're counting on the suffering.
They're counting on causing pain to my constituents, our friends

(01:08:09):
and neighbors. And you know the fact that they're suffering.
They want Republicans to flench first. And look, the reality
is a c RT is the epitome of the status quo.
That's part of the problem. I mean, Democrats are fighting for.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
What they want.

Speaker 11 (01:08:24):
They want more government, a lot more, one and a
half trillion more. They wrote it all out for us,
and Republicans in theory at least want less government. Certainly
my part of the party does. And until you're sitting
here defending the status quo, which essentially no one wants,
everyone knows this doesn't really work, but it is sort

(01:08:45):
of a reminder to go. Even some of the things
that we don't necessarily, you know, love the way that
it works, like snap food stamps. It is a pretty
integral part. I mean, people do want their friends, family,
neighbors to be able to have a hand and in
a time of need. We all know the programs should
work better. And part of what Republicans did back in
the summer was get back to common sense to say, look, yeah,

(01:09:09):
we've got a safety net there, but at some point,
if you're able bodied, work in age, and you don't
have dependent kids at home, you need to get a job,
or go to school or volunteer somewhere. So all those
things are now in place. Democrats are mad about that,
and that's part of why they're holding the government hostage.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Well, and I think the critical words in that statement
not to discount anything you just said, which is all
just dead right on as far as I'm concerned. In
a time of need, these programs are sold upon the
altruistic idea that well, government can be there when you
are truly in need, but that need is supposed to
be temporary once you get on your feet to the

(01:09:46):
extent you're able to, and so that everybody that is
incapable of helping themselves out are working or participating in society,
we're going to try to tend to those needs. But
as a very very very small slice of the population,
the programs have become perpetu and forever somebody gets on
foodstamps and then just says, all right, I continue to
get foodstamps, doesn't do anything to get out of that

(01:10:06):
time of need. So it is a forever thing. That's
not what these programs were set up to do, is it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:14):
No, not, well, it's not what they were sold to do. Now, Democrats,
they seem to be yeah, this is as designed. They
want it that way, and they also want the country
flooded with non citizens, and they want them to be
on the same kinds of programs that we were designed
for Americans. So not only do we have a problem
with Medicaid and healthcare going to illegal so they're fighting

(01:10:37):
to get that back, which we turned off. You've got
a significant amount of the food stamp assistants going to
non citizens. And you know, these people in a lot
of cases aren't even supposed to be here, but you're
not going to watch kids starve, so they wind up
being on some form of federal assistants. And it just
highlights the problem that the Democrats are imposing in the

(01:11:00):
country left and right. You go back when Joe Biden
was president, on average, we had nearly two hundred thousand
illegals coming into the country every month that Joe Biden
was president. This is off the charge. I mean, this
was not, you know, unanticipated. They promised to do that,
then they did it, and they did it in spite

(01:11:22):
of what the law says. They did in spite of
what the consequences are for our safety net, whether it's
health care, food, assistance, housing, And that's one of the
other ones that wire housing is so expensive. Well, you
brought about twenty million illegal people into the country. They're
going to have to live somewhere. There are a whole
lot of other factors there, but that certainly is one

(01:11:43):
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
And Trump ran on all of this and one popular vote,
the electoral college vote across the board, one of the
key issues you ran on is exactly the point you're making.
And it seems so odd to me. It's impossible from
my perspective, for the Democrats to reconcile the position. Were
they not the party of the safety net? Are they
not the champions of the downtrodden. Didn't they implement these
programs in order to salvage and save those folks and

(01:12:05):
provide that measure of assistance in time of need. They're
the ones that invited the twenty million or so illegal
immigrants into the country. Which made these programs, got these
programs so overwhelmed that they're they're bringing about this sad
reality on the very people they purported to represent. After
for years and years and years, a lot of those
folks then said, wait a second, I don't like these

(01:12:27):
illegal immigrants taking all the resources from my local governments,
all the housing and blah blah blah blah blah. That
money should be going to me and my downtrodden neighborhoods.
So they've created this situation. It's a mess for them.
That's I think their biggest problem. They can't reconcile the
two sides of their political agenda whatever they're hoping to accomplish.

Speaker 11 (01:12:48):
Yeah, I mean, and you look at historically working class
voters that you know, grect to the Bill Clinton coalition.
Those were the people that he targeted, and post Obama,
you know that movement said, look, you they're holding my wages.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Dad.

Speaker 11 (01:13:02):
When you bring all these people in, you're cutting off
my opportunities in a lot of ways. And if you
look at certain industries like cole they've literally you know,
promised that well you know it won't be illegal, but
you'll go bankrupt, and you know, all these kinds of things.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
Are part of why Ohio flipped.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
You had people.

Speaker 11 (01:13:20):
I remember when Tim Ryan was in the House with me,
he challenged Nancy Pelosi to be leader of the Democrats
in the House because he's like, you can't keep doing
these far left, trazy things. And when places like Youngstown,
Ohio and lo and behold, Ohio is not really much
of a swing state anymore. We've become solid red. And

(01:13:41):
I think in a lot of ways, Ohio ands didn't
change their views. The parties did. And Donald Trump has
grown his majority of the left has just taken over
the Democrat Party and they defend things federally in these
votes that truly aren't representative of Democrats, even in our district.
I mean, it's bipartisan in the eighth District of Ohio

(01:14:03):
to say, you know, men and boys, males shouldn't compete
against in sports that were designed to have a women's category.
You can't pretend you're a woman and then just go
compete or no matter how much surgery or chemicals you
put in your body, you're still not a female. And
that's part of why we designed them. That's common sense stuff.

(01:14:26):
But and bipartisan here. But not bipartisan when we call
the votes. I think eventually they're going to have to
open the government. But in the meantime, I mean, I've
laid out a plan for the Speaker and others that
you've of course got the sixty vote rule in the Senate.
A lot of people want to blow that up. It
would be blown up all the time, though, because the
Senate's always got the sixty vote rule. We use reconciliation

(01:14:47):
to pass appropriations back in the summer, and that also
allows a simple majority in the Senate, and that really
only works if you've got the White House, the House,
and the Senate. So I think that's a better way.
I just do reconciliation and deem everything we consider essential
as Republicans, and you can you can pass it on
reconciliation with a simple majority. That would take a little

(01:15:08):
bit of effort, But if the Democrats aren't going to move,
we could get on with funding our agenda instead of
just defending the status quo with this stupid cer.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Well, and you have to be called in from recess
to do that. That hasn't yet happened, has it, Congressman Davidson.

Speaker 11 (01:15:23):
No, I mean we're having meetings. Unfortunately, some of the
meetings that some of our folks are having is the
surrender caucus is forming. This is this is where this
is where Speaker Johnson is like, now, just stay out
of DC because you'll all start trying to, you know,
do deals with Democrats to do things that you know
undermine the position. And you know, I think we've got

(01:15:45):
a very clear position. There are some Republicans that, apparently
for the first time ever, want to work with Democrats
on Obamacare. How do we make Obamacare better? And you know,
Obamacare was designed to cause problems from healthcare system, so
you make it better by getting rid of it. It
doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
They know that.

Speaker 11 (01:16:05):
Well, it's working the way they designed it to, which
is to keep sucking more cash until you effectively have
single payer. But it doesn't work to make health care affordable.
It's working to implement single payer. So they're bridging it
with these are COVID subsidies that overwhelmingly just go straight
to the health insurance company, essentially as a bribe to say, hey,

(01:16:28):
if we give you this straight pipe of cash, we
hold down premiums a little bit. And you know, it
sort of worked in that sense, and now they're saying, oh, well,
if you don't give us the money, we're going to
raise the premiums again. And well, there never was a
big pandemic surge, so they got a huge plus up
for expenses that didn't come anywhere near what they were

(01:16:52):
funded at. The pandemic was bad, but it wasn't the
kind of thing that we funded. We funded a much
worse pandemic than what actually happened.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Well, it's bring Congressman Warren Davidson back at seven to
sixteen right now. If you have KERSD talk station, talk
station seven nineteen, If if you have KCD talk station,
Happy Friday, Eve Thursday at Congressman Warren Davidson on the phone,
real quick here congresson Davidson on Obamacare. These supplements don't
make the premium go away, do they. They just give

(01:17:23):
the impression that the premium has gone away to the
people who get the supplement. So, no, I'm not paying
one thousand dollars a month for insurance. I'm only paying
three hundred dollars a month for insurance. I can handle that.
But that other seven hundred dollars has been padded by
a supplement is still being paid. Just the weight of
that is being borne by the American taxpayer, as expressed
in the form of our national debt.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Right, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 11 (01:17:44):
I mean, it's a transference. It's really no different than
forgiving student debt in the sense that you know, it
really isn't forgiven. It's just transferring it from the person
that owes it to the person to the taxpayers. And
that's the problem with Obamacare. And look, if you look
at government, it's grown massively and one of the biggest

(01:18:05):
places it's grown is healthcare. I mean, back back in
the sixties when Medicaid was was rolled out under the
Great Society, healthcare was about six percent of the US economy. Well,
people still needed health care back then, but now it's
about twenty five percent of the economy. So as we've
added more and more government, al it's done is inflay.

(01:18:29):
And we add government because well it's expensive. But the
more government you put in, the faster the inflation is
because that's what causes the inflation. Right, Well, it also
causes the person that gets the subsidy. Then okay, well
it's good for you, but the market price has gone
up for everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, but I guess I mean insurance as a concept.
The loan will cause people to go to the doctor
more often because the perception is that it's not costing anything.
You know, well, my insurance company's going to pay for it.
Well that's an I to go see the doctor perhaps
more often. But it's also knowing that they're going to
get paid and center for the providers to jack up
the prices because the insurance company's going to cover it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:19:09):
I mean, single payer that will pay any price also fails.
I mean it's collapsing our kind of if you look
at what's eating the federal budget, you know, just Medicaid
and Medicare are a huge, huge thing now we need them,
they're considered essential. We certainly want those things, but they
haven't been a good check. And if you look at

(01:19:30):
some of our hospital networks, you know they're getting like
seventy five percent of their funding from the federal government
federal dollars with Medicaid, Medicare programs like that, and so
the private sector where you know, one hundred and sixty
hundred and eighty million Americans get their health insurance through
workplace benefit, so overwhelming majority they're getting their healthcare while

(01:19:53):
on payroll in a job. But that portion of the
payment is you know, in best case, a third twenty
five percent to a third of the payment stream for
a hospital network. So there's all kinds of reforms that
need to be done really just to protect the function
of Medicaid Medicare in the private healthcare economy. Obamacare undermines

(01:20:16):
those things, and instead of dealing with the root issue,
we're sitting here propping up a program that clearly didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Wish we could solve the problems of the world just
during this conversation Congress from Warren Davidson. It's a million
directions I want to go. But on that point, let's
move over real quick here, because China, it looks like
Donald Trump had some success. He's having great success on
his trip to Asia, negotiating some great trade deals. Everyone
seems to be pleased, and he even suggested that he
had success with Jijinping tougher federal enforcement, rare earth mineral negotiations.

(01:20:50):
Do you have optimism of the results of this trip,
most notably in connection with our relationship with China.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:20:59):
Look, I mean he went to a lot of other
countries before he went to China, and I think this
is part of just shoring up the supply chain in
a lot of ways, de risking our supply chain relationship
with China. So it gave him the stronghand to deal
with China. And frankly, a lot of people early on
they're like, why are we putting tarots on all these
other countries. Well, China agreed to be a market economy

(01:21:20):
with when they joined the World Trade Organization, you know,
was the main thing that Bill Clinton worked on, and
they got launched right around the end of his presidency
and started George W. Bush's But China hasn't become a
market economy. Their economy has grown a lot, but they've
done all kinds of things to shape the market, block
access to their own while dumping and subsidizing all.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Over the world.

Speaker 11 (01:21:41):
And we've become incredibly dependent upon China, and we even
for things like pharmaceuticals, and we saw during COVID just
to get critical things, we can't really function while that
access to the China market. And that's a really important vulnerability.
So tried to deal with that with our own countries,

(01:22:02):
like with Canada, with Mexico, with Europeans, with Japan, Korea,
you name it to say, yeah, we want a better
relationship with you, but you got to help us with China.
China's going to do what they said they would do,
and I hope we at least move in that direction.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Well, I say we own a Donald Trump, and he
has had wild success getting promises and commitments of billions
and billions of dollars investment in the United States, most
notably in the area of pharmaceutical production. I mean, we
learned a lot from COVID was a painful lesson, but
our eyes woke up and it's not too late. We
can take over manufacturing in this country and bring about

(01:22:37):
a reliable source of pharmaceuticals among other products that we
don't have to rely on our arch enemy.

Speaker 11 (01:22:44):
For Yeah, and look, I'd rather do business with China
than end up truly treating them as an enemy and
find a way to get into yet another kind of war,
some version of it, a cold war if nothing else,
you know, great, but you know, peace through strength, right
and right now we're vulnerable and not strong, and that's important.

(01:23:05):
Whether it's semiconductors, chips, you know my old industry, tooling,
you know a lot of these things, dies, molds, castings forgings.
You're still dependent upon China in a lot of ways,
and a lot of Trump's America First strategy is to
make us less vulnerable to those kinds of things. It's
a big part of what he's doing with trade, and

(01:23:26):
I just I think this is long overdue and an
important trip.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Congressman Warren Davidson, Well, thank you for your service to
our country, your ongoing service to our country, and your
elected capacity, and thanks to your voters for putting you
in office. You're a good man. We really appreciate the
work that you're doing, and I of course thoroughly appreciate,
along with my listeners, you're willingness to come on the
program and talk about these important issues. Congressman Davidson until
our next conversation, and wish you and your family the
best of health and all the success in the world.

Speaker 11 (01:23:54):
Yeah, thanks for defending freedom. Brian, God bless you and
all your listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Thank you, sir. Seven twenty six fifty five kr CD
t oh Look Covers Station. It's seven thirty one to
fifty five KRCD talk station. Try to make it a
happy Thursday. If you can get over to the Fort
Thomas Military Community History Museum if you hadn't heard of
it like me, and I apologize to that. My next
guest Deanna bini Key, she's the director of the Fort

(01:24:17):
Thomas Military Community History Museum. She's gonna be in an
Empower Youth seminar tonight beginning at seven pm. Log in
from home or show up at three hundred Great Oaks
Drive for the Empower Youse Seminar's classroom and get a
big eye full and history of the World War Two
propaganda posters. Welcome to the program, Deana. It's a pleasure
to have you on this morning. Well, thank you, uh

(01:24:39):
my apologies. As I mentioned in the intro there the
Fort Thomas Military and Community History Museum. I until this
morning did not know there was one of those. Can
you tell my listeners when this got gone and what
people can see there? Before we get to the propaganda
posters seminar information, we are a.

Speaker 14 (01:24:54):
Hidden gym in Fort Thomas. We're located in Tower Park, which,
if you're familiar with Fort Thomas Tower Park is the
park that used to be part of the VA facility
during the wartime. The museum was established in a display
case in nineteen ninety nine. We moved to our current

(01:25:17):
location in two thousand and nine. We are getting ready
to switch out our World War II exhibits. For the
past four years, we have had a tribute to the
more than two hundred and fifty thousand soldiers who processed
through Fort Thomas between November of nineteen forty and June

(01:25:40):
of nineteen forty four.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Oh why.

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:25:44):
If you had a family member from Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana,
or West Virginia and they went were in the Army
or the Army Air Corps, they processed through.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Here, that's amazing. See and learned something. I say, I
learned something in the if you five Casey Morey, sure
every single day of my life. That is an overwhelming
number of folks. Yes, and you said you distinctly said
it started with a display case. The exhibit's grown quite
a bit since you had a display case, hasn't adenna.

Speaker 14 (01:26:17):
Yes, we are up to more than four thousand artifacts.
We're about two thirds military and a third community based.
For our exhibits. We do have a permanent couple of
permanent military rooms, and then we have a Beverly Hills

(01:26:40):
Tribute room about the fire Yeah's. And then we have
two rooms that rotate depending on what exhibit we choose
to put. Next year, those two rooms will be converted
from current World War Two things to one room will

(01:27:00):
be all about the schools over the years, and one
room will be probably decades of businesses with little artifacts
from various businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
In ten all related to the Fort Thomas community locally.
So rotating stock. I guess it's almost like the Smithsonian.
They have thousands and thousands of stuff behind the scenes,
and you've got to bring it out every once in
a while to show people. So a rotating exhibits. The
next time you go to the Fort Thomas Military and
Community History it may be different than the prior time
you've been there. So there's a strong encouragement for folks
to keep going back time and time again. Dana, how

(01:27:34):
did you get interested in the World War Two? Since
you are doing the World War Two propaganda poster empower
you summinar tonight.

Speaker 14 (01:27:42):
Well, I've always been interested in World War Two. My
father was a veteran of World War Two. He served
with Patton's Third Army in the sixth Armored Division, So
I have a great respect for anything World War Two.
In fact, I was a history was my I've one
of my double majors in college. The museum came about

(01:28:06):
because I have curated a couple of exhibits over the years.
I am the director now because the previous director had
a health emergency and I said, okay, I'll take over
for a year. That was in twenty seventeen and I'm
still there. Well, I will do it probably another couple

(01:28:26):
of years because i'll be eighty and I think it's
going to be time to retire.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Oh shush. You doing what you love. That's what's keeping
you alive. And well, Deanna, let's pause because I want
to get I have a couple of pointed questions to
ask you about the propaganda posters themselves. Will get help
my listeners understand what you're going to be talking about.
It's seven thirty five. I want to take a break
and bring it right back. It's empower You Talk station
tonight tonight, seven pm. Empower Youoamerica dot org. Your register
for the class World War two propaganda posters brought to

(01:28:53):
us by the director of the for Thomas Military Community Hospital.
My guest today Deana Binnicky. I'm I remember Dana. I apologize.
I had asked for a reading on the pronunciation of
your last name, and Joe had told me, and I
wrote a big I over the top of the EI party.

Speaker 14 (01:29:14):
Do you remember remember Muffler?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
That's right, But I'll remember Dana Binick you first, because
I'm going to go over to the Fort Thomas Military
and Community History Museum sometime here soon. But the World
War Two propaganda posters are rather interesting. I think contextually
it's really important that that was the vehicle for our
government to communicate to us, because this is really early
on in television. Hardly anybody had TVs at this period

(01:29:39):
of time, and there was no Internet, so if you
weren't seeing it on the very hard to find televisions,
you weren't going to get the message. So they put
these propaganda posters up, and they dealt with a whole
bunch of different subject matters. It isn't just I want
you with Uncle Sam asking you to enlist in the
US Army, but it's also you know, encouraging loose slips,
sing ships you got Rosie, the that are encouraging work,

(01:30:01):
encouraging people to engage in some measure of belt tightening
because the troops need all the help they can get so's.
It's an interesting phenomenon, and these posters are amazing in
terms of the artwork they present. Do you have any
of them that stand out particularly for you, Deanna?

Speaker 14 (01:30:20):
We have two hundred and sixty seven of the from
World War One and World War Two. A volunteer from
the museum rescued them when the dav was getting ready
to throw them away. Oh, and so we have them
in stories. There are the ones that I'm going to

(01:30:40):
talk about tonight are ones that we own, except for
the I want you you know the Uncle Sam. Yeah,
he actually did that poster for World War One and
it was revived and reissued for World War Two. Montgomery

(01:31:00):
flag used himself as the model, and he did several
Uncle Sam posters in different poses. I'm going to have
that one because I talk about that iconic poster because
you still see it. Oh sure, got format and people

(01:31:21):
recognize that poster more than any other poster. I'm not
going to talk about Rosie the Riveter because we don't
own that one. I'm not going to talk about the
Norman Rockwell for Freedoms because we don't own that. Probably
one of my favorites is a war bond poster that
shows a little girl probably about two years old, and

(01:31:48):
it simply says to have and to hold and you
see this not quite Gerber baby a little bit older
than that, and then it says five extra bonds. Another
favorite is one of the James flag James Montgomery flag posters,

(01:32:08):
which is not politically correct, and I don't have it
up in the exhibit right now because I didn't. We're
not there to invite controversy. And it was a time
when we designed this. Anyway, it's Uncle Sam rolling up
his sleeves and saying, Jap, you're next.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Oh yeah, I remember seeing that one before.

Speaker 14 (01:32:31):
Which was designed after the victory in Europe. But in
a war weary world, we still needed to be motivated
to support our troops, and the troops needed to be
motivated to go to the Pacific and continue the flight. Yeah,
the fight, So I've got We had an exhibit a

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few years ago that pulled seventy five posters from World
War One and World War Two. They were roughly evenly
divided between the two wars, which meant I had about
forty close to forty posters for World War Two. I'm
only featuring twenty two of those tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Well, it's going to be a lot with just twenty two.
There's so much history behind these, you know. And as
we were talking, I went ahead did an Internet search
on propaganda posters in the United States. You mentioned sort
of that racist element that might seep through. I mean,
we were in the middle of a war, but the
depictions of Japanese and that stereotypical glasses, the buck tooth
kind of looked that they always depicted them in movies

(01:33:38):
as obviously that perceived as extremely racist, but that image
appeared on a lot of World War two posters as well.

Speaker 14 (01:33:44):
So it's well, the idea of propaganda is to influence
thinking and disseminate information, and the message was we are
the good guys and the enemies are the bad guys,
and those stereotypes that showed up. I've got a poster

(01:34:08):
that shows an arm holding a knife stabbing through a Bible.
The arm on them, like the cufflink is the Nazi
slastika holding the knife destroying Christianity. That's one that's quite striking.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Yeah, those messages really tend to click, especially when you're
in middle of a war. A war, so we're gonna
learn all about this tonight seven pm. I just saw
another one open Trap Make Happy jap with that same
sort of stereotypical image of a Japanese person talking about
like loose lips sink ships. It's an image of him

(01:34:51):
with his ear to a keyhole in a door. So
this is just fascinating stuff. It's all on full display tonight,
at least a handful of them relative to the entire
exhibits numbers, And Deanna's going to do a great job
explaining all this to you and walking you through World
War two propaganda posters. Deanna biny Key, it's been a
real pleasure having you on. Keep up the great work,
and thanks for introducing me and a lot of my

(01:35:12):
listeners perhaps to the for Thomas Military Community History Museum,
which I'm going to encourage everyone to check out sometime
real soon.

Speaker 14 (01:35:19):
Well check it out next spring, because we're about to
close for the school.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
We're not open.

Speaker 14 (01:35:25):
We're not open in December, January, and February because the
weather is a factor fair enough, and that's that's our
downtime when we break down exhibits and put new exhibits up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Well, I'm glad I said that out loud. Because somebody
might have shut up next month. Would you have a
website just for the museum.

Speaker 14 (01:35:46):
Well, the best way to get in touch with me
is through our I think there's a website that the
city operates because of the city owns the museum. But
the best way to arrange a private tour, because we
still well do private tours between mail and mid December,
is Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com. That's fantastic. I'm
glad you mentioned private tours as well, Deanna. Well keep
up the great work. Don't retire. We need you over
there doing all this great history work and taking care
of the museum and making Fort Thomas proud. It's been
a pleasure having you on. Good luck with a seminar tonight, folks,
Empower Youamerica dot org. Make sure you register, either show
up in person or login from home. It should be

(01:36:28):
really fascinating. Seven fifty three fifty five KROCD talk station
looking forward to the time after the following the after
the top of the art news, Get it out of
your mouth Brian brother Dre Andrea Ewing returns thirty year
veteran police officer he's retired. He's an outspoken community activist
doing help for some youth and trying to impact their

(01:36:50):
lives for the positive. He is on fire when you
see him on social media. I recommend, as I have
been many many times, Andre Ewing, follow him on follow
him on Facebook, and you'll get an earful and he
does not pull any punches, will get his spleen vent,
which I'll summarize the next hour of conversation. Of course,
we will be focusing largely on police chief Tresea. Thigi

(01:37:11):
saw the interesting enquire article for Maaron Glenn and Scott
Wartman this morning. City sidelining of public chief draws blacklash
from all sides. Even fellow Democrats criticized the decision to place.
You're an administrative leave, calling the situation chaotic. They're saying
she's being used as a scapegoat. Social media posts popping
up all over the place. And support a police chief,

(01:37:33):
three Cythigi, which means you're not supporting Mayor aftab Provoll
and city Manager Cheryl long. I like how Purvoll passed
the buck. He said he did not give. He said
he did not decide whether or not to keep Thiji.
That was the city manager's sole decision. But he does
respect the city manager. So in other words, aftab Parvall
agrees with what she did. But the goofy part about

(01:37:56):
this and talked to russ Neville yesterday about this. Retired
since Police Captain russ Neville just happened to be the
brother of police Chief Dji. That the investigation that they're
now paying for. The law firm that's been retained is
gonna get forty gram between now and December to conduct
an investigation into police treat Chief Dji's work as a

(01:38:18):
police police chief. They didn't say why they put her
on administrative leave. They just did. They didn't explain it.
Now we're gonna play somebody administrati leave. Shouldn't have a
reason like we're appointing to this particular thing or reason
she did this which justifies it being placed on paid
administrative leave. No, we're gonna put her on administrative leave.

(01:38:38):
Then we're gonna hire a high fallutint law firm and
pay them fat Bank to look into her background to
see if they can find something. Is that the way
I understand it. We're gonna hear from brother a brother
Ewing Andre Ewing brother Dre. He's in studio looking sharp.
We're gonna get into him in a minute. Stick around,
be right back after the news.

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Happy Thursday. I'm so please look across the board here
and see my good friend Andrea Ewing. Outspoken critic. He
is of everything he finds worthy of criticism, regardless of
which side of the ledger it's coming from. He issues
what I will call Shenanigan's declarations on a weekly basis.
I strongly encourage you to follow him. It's just he

(01:39:45):
is just out, just great. I guess I find myself
like reaching up to high five someone who's not even
there when I'm hearing Andrea preaches a gospel there On
Andre Ewing's Facebook page, Brother Dre Curse Breakers three hundred
Strong is his organzation trying to help some young people
and get people out of trouble. It's welcome back. It's
always great to see.

Speaker 9 (01:40:05):
You, man, always good, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
And I understand you know you're You're like a thorn
in everybody's side lately, aren't you all right?

Speaker 7 (01:40:11):
Now?

Speaker 9 (01:40:12):
Public enemy number one?

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
I don't know about that. Hey, Sometimes the truth is
hard to take and to the extent you're not aware.
Drea is here to talk about, of course, a downtown
police situation. He worked as a Cincinnati police officer for
thirty years, a distinguished career. He had retired from the
force and he's gone on to do a lot of
community work and good work he does. But of course,

(01:40:34):
being a part of the system for thirty years, he's
got a lot of insight. He remembers what it was
like before issue five. He knows what it's like since
issue five.

Speaker 8 (01:40:41):
And you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
You've been calling a throwing a flag red card, whatever
you want to say with regard to police Chief Diji.
Now this idea that she is being used as a scapegoat.
I'm gonna I'll let you address all this. But as
I have unfolded it in my mind, and this is
where you can feel free to come after me and
say no, Brian, You've got it wrong. She Obviously we

(01:41:06):
have crime in this city. Of course we know have
to have. Pearl Wall's been in denial about crime, but
he finally came to the realization we have some crime.
We had this situation with Holly, we had Sarah Herringer's
husband getting slaughtered. We got beatdowns, we got brawls, we
got gang activity, we got youth activity on Government Square,
on and on and on and on and on. So
at one point, I guess have Toab wakes up and
does acknowledge as the crime problem. He's got an election

(01:41:26):
to worry about. And lo and behold. Police Chief Tiji
gets called back from her meeting with the with the
law enforcement officers out of town and they put her
on administrative leave. They didn't say why they put her
on administrative leave. Did you ever hear a specific reason
that was mentioned, like, we are doing this for the reasons,
for the following reasons.

Speaker 9 (01:41:46):
They just did it, correct, They just went off and
they just did it okay, And basically from everything that
they're trying to compile and put the blame game. But
that's why I said, they all are in the same
bed together. You can't blame one without the other.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Okay, and this is where we're going to get to
what I would like to call like a circuity or
a circular firing squad. But Police Thieti's been doing her
job for a long time. I haven't heard the administration,
Pearl Ball, Cheryl Long, or even members or council complain
about the work that she has been doing up until
all this kind of hit the fan late in the game.
Apparently she had an unblemish record. They were all, you know,

(01:42:22):
smiles and handshaky several weeks ago, and you know, they
had the support of each other. So then this event happens,
and they've retained a law firm out of Columbus, big
high flute law firm, you know, four hundred and twenty
five dollars an hour lawyers to look into her period
of time as police chief, which appears to me for
the purposes of maybe finding something they can hang their

(01:42:45):
hat on to blame her and thus justify their putting
her on administrative leave or maybe even firing her.

Speaker 9 (01:42:50):
Right, I mean, Brian, let's look at it. This whole
thing is ridiculous, is shaky. The leadership has shown that
they are completely confused. You don't have somebody that you
claim is number one. Aftab is clear, Hey, this is
my number one go to been asked several times do
you have faith in this chief? He said totally. I do.

(01:43:14):
Chre along the same thing. Everyone has had total faith
in Chief Thiji. Now, like I said, I'm not here
the bass Chief Thiji and her commitment in years of service.
But what I am here to do is get to
the truth. In the heart of the matter is that
you were part of this entire problem in the situation.
But now here's churl Long in the mayor saying, hey,

(01:43:36):
we need to come up with something now to get
rid of you, and it just shows how terrible this
entire process has went. So that's why if you see
all my videos, I'm extremely consistent that from the chief,
you got to deal with Cheryl Long. You can't deal
with chir Long without the mayor. You can't really deal
with the mayor without dealing with Iris Rowley. That's why

(01:43:57):
the whole shebang has.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
To go well. And the voters have an opportunity to
do just that next Tuesday, or go in today and vote.
Voter Board of Elections open. Just check the hours you
can vote. You can even vote over the weekend, including
on Sunday. They have voting on Sunday. So there's no
excuse here other than people just not getting off their
butts or voting for the same thing again. And how
dumb might that be? Andre?

Speaker 9 (01:44:20):
Here we go over and over and over again. But
one thing that is interesting. I mean because of course,
you know, Corey Bowman is staying, hey, look, let the
police do their job. Just let them do their job.
And I agree, but you have to be careful and say,
what is doing your job? You just can't have a
green light to do whatever you want. There still needs

(01:44:41):
to be some focus on community development. There has to
be police and community relations, and so you still have
to be careful not to just go ahead and give
say the fop of green light to say we're gonna
do whatever we want to in this city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (01:44:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
I really haven't heard anybody advocate for that. I think
under modern circumstances, when we want the police to do
their job, we want them free to enforce the law.
Let the legal process do what it's supposed to do.
Lock up bad people, serve as an example to everybody
else who might break crime. That you two are going
to be held accountable for it, and hold people accountable,
not reckless policing or pulling over driving while black, or

(01:45:21):
you know, making up pretexts for stops. I'd like to
think that that is a thing of the past. I'm
smarter than that to know that, yes, it probably still
does happen. But letting the police do their job from
a best practices standpoint means not taking away money and
resources and allocations of you know, maybe getting some rather

(01:45:41):
than police, some community activists to sort of de escalate
the situation or something when you really need a cop
on the streets.

Speaker 9 (01:45:49):
Correct, I mean, Ran, if we're on the same team
and you post a block for me, you are my
offensive line, and when I get the ball, you completely say,
I don't care, Andre, I'm gonna let you get sacked, right, Okay,
I'm gonna get sacked every single time because you let
the defense in. And this is why. If the judges
aren't on the same page, the police aren't on the
same page, the sheriff isn't on the same page. How

(01:46:10):
we lock them up. Everybody is not on the same page.
It doesn't matter. We're going to go through this process.
Even if Corey Bowman is mayor. But we have to
sit back and work together to have a winning team
and a winning city.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
In viewing things on that same page context, we go
back to Police Chief Tiji. I'm always of the mind
that purvol and Long are I won't maybe necessarily say
completely defund the police, but there's certainly a reimagine. They
are not in favor of tickets. They're not in favor

(01:46:46):
of this accountability that they think society is inherently corrupt
or whatever, and anybody out there committing crimes, it isn't
their fault. It's somebody else's fault. That's the mentality that
I just want to boil down with my perception. Anyway,
and if that is in fact the case, they get
Police Chiefdji in place. They selected her, Cheryl Long hired her.
Did they hire her because she shares their perception of

(01:47:09):
law enforcement or did they hire her because they knew
she would, even if she doesn't believe in it, would
operate the department along the lines of their viewpoint that
on their page, as opposed to what might have been
Police Chiefdji's own page, had she been given the opportunity
to run the department as she saw fit. Okay, so

(01:47:30):
which page are we talking about. Let's deal with the.

Speaker 9 (01:47:33):
First page number one. Any employer, any CEO of a company,
they're going to interview and make sure you're on the
same page with them, right and if you're not, sorry,
we see a better candidate. So at the end of
the day, you can't get rid of a district five
unless a chief of police agrees with you and pushes
the agenda and says, you know what, we can get

(01:47:55):
rid of a District five and still have police response
time that have not went down. So make that make
sense that you got to travel to a complete longer
distance and the response times doesn't go down for the
citizens of Cincinnati. So yes, Chief Fiji knew exactly what
she was getting into because for three years she had

(01:48:17):
nothing negative to say about her bosses or employees. So understand,
this is what's interesting. You not one time stepped up
for your officers. You didn't speak out for your officers,
and all the things that were happening in city Hall
you agreed to. And now all of a sudden, whoops,
they want to fire me. Now guess what, aftap you

(01:48:39):
need to go Everybody now vote for Corey Bowman. This
is a dangerous situation because who do you trust, Brother Brian,
in this situation, who do you trust?

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
I don't know who to trust because quite honestly, I
don't have any information out there to draw any conclusions. Again,
she got on administrative leave without any specific item or
thing being site. It's a mystery. Was she bending to
the will of purvoll and Long in spite of what
she really wanted to accomplish. You're right, no criticism of

(01:49:10):
the administration from her during the period of time she's
been chief, and magically we come to this point where
clearly there's a division between the administration and the chief.
So I'm missing a whole lot of documents, a whole
lot of facts, And that's exactly what I think is
going to ultimately come out. Sadly, it's going to come
out after the election is over correct?

Speaker 9 (01:49:29):
Correct? But who do you believe right now? Even with
Sheryl Long saying we have this investigation, I mean, at
the end of the day, anything you want to find
on anybody, you can no exactly, Okay, the climate assessment
is still out there, which is interesting because they never
used or presented the climate assessment three years ago when

(01:49:50):
the police department filled it out.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Let's pause on that because I want you to enlighten
my listeners as to exactly what this climate assessment is
all about and what the information is that they might
glean from it. That's an important point. More with Andrea
Ewing I've had the conversation may deviate over to the Bengals.
Andre Ewing and I are discussing perhaps coaching changes for
this insane Bengals over the break there, Andre Ewing outspoken observer,

(01:50:13):
factual observer, and of course somebody who's willing to put
his point of view online and on record and pulls
no punches doing it. Andrea Ewing Facebook dot com. You're
going to join his thousands of followers and check him
out every week, and he's offering some great insight. You
mentioned the climate assessment. I keep hearing this climate assessment.
What is the purpose of that? What does a climate

(01:50:35):
assessment encounter or encompass?

Speaker 9 (01:50:37):
Drey Well, a climate assessment is to test the temperature
and the morale of say institution or police department. So
in our case, the police department, the city manager wanted
to present a climate assessment to see what are the
things that are needed to strengths and weaknesses of our
police department and what do we think about it? And

(01:50:59):
with that process, there was a test that was taken
and ironically it was a lot of negativity that came
back from that assessment, but they never released it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
What year was this done?

Speaker 9 (01:51:11):
This was done right when Thiji was becoming the chief of.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Police, before the District five decision was made.

Speaker 9 (01:51:19):
Correct, Okay, correct? So we talked about right there in
that mix when Shery Long was going around from district
to district asking who do we want to be the
chief of police and at the same time started to
present the climate assessment for officers to fill out. And
I'm telling you they're gonna use that now against Thiji

(01:51:40):
and twist the narrative. And that's why I said, you
can't trust anybody now in this particular situation.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
They took the climate assessment before she was elevated the
position of chief. How could they use that climate assessment
to evaluate her tenure as chief? Andre Ewing?

Speaker 7 (01:51:55):
What the hell?

Speaker 9 (01:51:55):
Because it was all in the same window during that process,
so all of it was still dealing with leadership and
this particular process. So it's still gonna be within the
same window. And trust me, that's why they got the
third party attorney firm looking at everything so Cheryl Long
could say, see, it wasn't me. They found all this

(01:52:17):
information that was presented. And that's why I said, when
you look at the entire team, I'm gonna stay consistent. Yeah,
I'm cound team of the mayor, of Sheryl Long, of
the chief, and even Iris Rowley.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
You have a mess.

Speaker 9 (01:52:34):
And in this situation, what do you need to do
when you have an entire mess clean it up?

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Well, I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open, Andre,
because I don't understand how Cheryl Long, whatever this law
firm finds out, maybe they'll give her a clean bill
of health. Maybe they'll say there's all kinds of problems
in her background. She doesn't know about anything. I mean,
so far, like we started out, the predicate was in
these statements out loud of the gen republic work. Everything's great.

(01:53:02):
Are police Chief's doing a great job?

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
So I'm stuck with the idea that they put on
administrative leave. I mean to only have a law firm
go out and find something and then and like recreate
and reinvent the wheel and then present it to share
along a shit she can't say, see right, I mean
it's preposterous, And that the idea that she could even
get away of saying, see, they found all the stuff
that we knew there was something going on, we knew
it was wrong. Well, if he knew it was bad,

(01:53:26):
you knew there were problems, why'd you stand up and
tell everybody things were great?

Speaker 9 (01:53:29):
Exactly? So let's go back to the old school liar, liar,
pants on fire. Let's just get down to the roots
of how you see the corruption, the nonsense, the backstabbing,
the backbiting. It's all in your face now with everything
unfolding when you have chaos inside of administration.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Well, and then there's this weird person called Iris Rowley,
and that she is. She has a contract with the
city for five hundred and some more thousand dollars. I
don't know what slice of it she keeps. I know
that she hired her son to do some work on
Government Square. I don't know whether he's qualified to doode
or not. But she is such an outspoken anti police critic,

(01:54:12):
a demonstrated record of really what I will boil down
to a single word, my word, subjective observation, just has
a disdain for the police.

Speaker 9 (01:54:26):
Okay, so let me ask you something. If that's the
case and she does go around anti police, she was
interfering with arrests, saw clearly with obstruction. So tell me
why in that process she's an advisor for a city hall.
The chief and the chief of police never spoke out

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against her.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
And her advisory capacity. How much sway and influence does
an anti police person have over the police department and
the decisions relative to it. I mean, is it possible
And I'm not saying this happen, but would for example,
Iris Roley have enough sway and influence over Cheryl Long
that Iris Rolli could say, Cheryl Lung, you need to fire,

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you need to put the trese to Thiji on administrative leave.

Speaker 9 (01:55:12):
Well I don't believe so, because let me tell you
why a part of Fiji getting hired, and this has
been public information, was Iris Rowley was sitting on a
panel of the selection for the pick of chief of police.
Oh my goodness, brother Brian, here we go again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
So look at this.

Speaker 9 (01:55:32):
So you have Iris Rolli who was a strong influence
on selecting Chief Thiji the city manager who selected Chief
Thiji and the mayor who agreed with it. So at
the end of the day, this is why you will
hear me stay consistent. The whole team has to go

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because there's too many problems inside the house.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
Well teeth except my listeners are curious, would you recommend
save going with Corey Bowman, maybe a Steve Good and
a Christopher Smithman, some of the non current members of council,
a new mayor that that would be your advice.

Speaker 9 (01:56:09):
That would be my advice. And Corey Bowman would have
to surround himself with the proper advisors. Oh yeah, you know,
I'm a Biblical man as well, and when you look
throughout the Bible, any leader set themselves around strong godly advisors,
and especially Daniel, and Daniel would tell the King himself,

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don't ask me anything that I will not tell you
the absolute truth, even if you don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Best leaders surround themselves are the best people, not yes
men or women, the best, brightest in any given subject matter.
Amens that I can't embrace that concept enough. Eight twenty
seven Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
More with on Talkstation.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Eight thirty one fifty five krc BE Talk Stations right,
Thomas with Andrea Ewing thirty years as a police officer
with the Sinsint Police Department, and he's taken on some
community activism roles and he keeps his eye on the
ball when it comes to being observant about what's going
on in downtown Cincinnati, most notably within involving the police
department and quite often speaking truth to power, rubbing people

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the wrong way to regardless of politicals, which side of
the political level or direction they come from. But Andrea Ewing,
I want to go back to District five because you know,
if you just look at it, we have, you know,
these districts, and you know the police operate out of
their districts. Those districts are located in certain neighborhoods. So
if you get rid of one of the districts, it

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just necessarily stands to reason that the officers that used
to go in and out of that district have to
report to and go in and out of some other district.

Speaker 7 (01:57:50):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
And if the district was in this neighborhood, then that
neighborhood is no longer going to have police moving in
and out of it because you've closed the district down.
Correct response, times, I think undeniably, just looking at it
objectively like that, response times are going to be longer
in areas where you no longer have a district.

Speaker 9 (01:58:11):
Absolutely, I say to my athletes and even coaches, you
have a relay that's usually four legs, correct, Yeah, take
away one leg?

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Right, what happens. It's gonna take a while.

Speaker 9 (01:58:22):
It's gonna take a while.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
You can see it on paper.

Speaker 9 (01:58:26):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
And then since they closed District five, that's become a
real lived experience for the officers. And there's been all kinds.
I mean, I've hit people on this program talking about, well,
it used to only take me five minutes, and now
it takes me ten minutes or and you know when
seconds count, you know it's gonna minutes. They're gonna really
be a big factor in all. Absolutely, So, recognizing all that,

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why did they close District five? This is simply a
question of money.

Speaker 9 (01:58:51):
Point blank. Is let me put money. If it don't
make money, it don't make sense. And that's what they
try to say. And so this was a part of
defunding the police. And so here is District five gets removed.
The city say budget has more money to work with,
and they have a community starts to buy into it's

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great that we don't have District five, which was ridiculous
because the community College Hill North Side. Ask them right
now how much they miss District five and those units
and people in the community have to travel up to
District three on Ferguson Avenue and it's the traffic there

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is already horrific. So it's a disservice to the community.
And it shows once again how Sheryl Long has manipulated
the system and has the chief that agrees with her
to be able to sell this to her officers and
to the community.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Well, the narrative that we've all been sold over and
over and over again that you know, police departments are
inherently racist, they give people anxiety. To see an officer
in uniform is going to create anxiety for people in
any given neighborhood, and that these communities are going to
embrace the concept of not having cops driving in and
out of the district that used to be there. Is
that that's not what the people really believe, is it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:14):
That's not what the people believe, not at all, And
we need to stop with this false narrative. I mean,
because I've been on, like I said, thirty years and
people are glad and happy to see me. My approach
has always been approachable. And so people that are victims
of crime, they want to be able to have a

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police district close by that is part of the community.
Then this is how you develop community relations because you
have a district in the heart of the community, not
away from it. It's in the heart and you bring
people to come around, Hey, we have things in our
parking lot. We want to do things in the community,

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and this builds relations and so to remove it out
of a community shows a disservice. Children cannot have a relationship,
and then you get this negativity towards the police.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
And then in the more troubled neighborhoods, at least neighborhoods
that have a higher crime rate. If let's say one
of those neighborhoods happens to be that way, the response
times are going to be a lot longer, which means
if you call for services and emergency services and a
cop doesn't show up for ten minutes because he's driving
from the other side of town, that is going to
create a negative perception of the police. They don't care
about me. They don't care about my neighborhood. They won't

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show they can't show up on time.

Speaker 9 (02:01:34):
Something's wrong here, something's very wrong, and we need to
fix it. And then next thing you know, here we
are the mayor says safety is my what do you say,
number one, two and three priority?

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
That was yesterday?

Speaker 9 (02:01:46):
So how do you do that when you start to
remove things that deal with safety?

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
And then there's that pesky problem of the contingent of
police officers that we have and it's still way way understaffed.
I want to address that with you. Andre Ewing Moore
coming out, Don't Go Away.

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student observations about the current well, we'll say situation. What
died to call it a Charlie foxtrot for my military
listeners out there, but they had the police Chief DJ
and the whole craziness that's going on. So we built
up to this point. We talked about District five and
that was one of the initial things that Police Chief
Thji had to do was closed District five. Correct.

Speaker 9 (02:02:45):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
And you had one of your friends chime in on
that whole climate assessment. I was saying, how can you
use an unreleased climate assessment from before she was police
chief to evaluate what the police think about her as
police chief? But your friend point out out and it's
a worthy point to make. She was high up in
the executive decision making branch of the police department at

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the time.

Speaker 7 (02:03:07):
Correct.

Speaker 9 (02:03:08):
Correct, And that's accurate. So no climate assessment is reflects leadership,
you know. It's so as to deal with leadership, and
THEIJI at the time was number two, executive.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Assistant chief, assistant chief.

Speaker 9 (02:03:22):
Correct, she was assistant chief, So it still reflected that
entire process of what do the police officers think about leadership?

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Fair Enough, I wanted you to be able to make
that point because it had to be on the record
to point that out. So there is some value in that,
at least in so far as that point in time
of how people felt about leadership generally. So we'll see
what it says. I guess the biggest problem is nobody's
seen it or it hasn't been released in full. Here
three years plus after the fact. Now, speaking of being

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after the fact, Afteb Provoll has been in office for
several years now. At no point in time did I
ever hear him talk about law enforcement being a number
one priority until just several weeks ago after all of
these problems hit the city and Drew Art. We got
national attention for a lot of these. I mean, we're
making it a front page in Fox News and CNN's

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reporting on it. So it was a bad, bad view
or look for the city. Holly getting punched, the riots,
the problems with criming downtown. So it seems that he
at least he's finally acknowledged it now. I've seen quotes
from him before where he says everything in front of
him as mayor starts from him looking at it through
a green lens or a climate lens, which I find

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absolutely batcrap insants since he's the mayor of a comparatively
small city in the world. But apparently carbon's emissions was
number one for him. Until recently and now it's law
enforcement number one, number one, number one, and he wants
to give you the impression that that's been his focus
all along. That being said, the number of police officers
when he was sworn in his mayor to today, I

(02:04:58):
know we were down when he was worn in several hundred.
Maybe you can put the actual rumbers on it. We're
supposed to be at eleven hundred issues.

Speaker 9 (02:05:05):
That correct, but you know, with a growing city, you
should have way more officers anyway, So when AFTAB came in,
and I'm sure Ken Kober can speak on the exact numbers,
but the compliment right now we're down about two hundred officers,
and there are a lot of officers who are not
staying okay, and they're leaving early. They're getting out of

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the drop program saying look, I don't care about the
money anymore. I'm done with this nonsense. I'm going to leave.
And so they can't keep an academy, put an academy
class quick enough to get those individuals out and to
train them for twenty six twenty seven weeks to be
ready for the streets and then have to go through
an FTO program and go through that process so they

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can keep up with the attrition they cannot. So clearly
the mayor has did a disservice to the community with that,
because that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Well, and that's kind of why I brought it up,
is you at least think you want a full contingent
of police officers. Lateral hires have always been a possibility.
And the of course people's perception of the police department
went down because the defund police and Black Lives Matter
and all the other organizations out there screaming about how
much police suck. It's hard to get people to even
get into the field of law enforcement. I mean, do

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you want a frozen bottle of water chucked at you?
Do you want to incendia a firework thrown at you?
Do you want to be demonized and ridiculed and kyled
a racist every single day? Do you want to be
spit on when you're walking to work in your uniform?
That's all real stuff, real. But if we could get
lateral hires, and that's always been a theoretical possibility, why
are we only now just talking about it. Why wasn't
this being worked on from day one? Provol administration start

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working hard to increase the compliment, not just remain status quo,
but increase the compliment. So these officers aren't working their
fingers to the bone with overtime hours that they don't
even want to do.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
Well, let me tell you what's interesting is that officers
now don't want to come to Cincinnati. The laterals. They
don't want to come to Cincinnati. So you have these
surrounding areas. Blue Ash now has a high financial rate
for police officers. You have the surrounding North College Hills
and Springdale's. They have now come up to match Cincinnati's payroll.

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And so if it was about money, they will go
to these other areas and deal with less headache. And
so why would you want to do a lateral and
come here. So what used to happen is those officers
that were in the Blue Ashes and say Elmwood's or
different jurisdictions would come to Cincinnati now for the money.
Now guess what they don't have to They can stay

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where they are.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
And deal with less because it isn't just Cincinnati struggling
with officer Attrician. This concept of ill will hatred, poor
perception the police, this labeling of them as all inherently,
system systemically racist is pretty much everywhere it usually is.

Speaker 9 (02:08:00):
Competition is a competition exactly. But I've seen some areas
that are thriving because of the chief that they have
in place. And I'll say that leadership matters if you
get a community that understands policing, that wants their community
to have a relationship. Look at those cities and look

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at those chiefs and see how they're thriving.

Speaker 2 (02:08:23):
One more with Andrea Yuing. I'm enjoying this, Andre, and
I appreciate your willingness to spend the whole hour with
my audience. I mean, this has been really interesting. Eight
forty five right now, fifty five k CD talk station,
fifty five city talk station, A forty nine if you
have CACD talk station talking about all the problems going
on the city of since Hey, not sure if we're
finding any solutions. With Andrea Ewing, thirty year career law

(02:08:45):
enforcement officer has been retired, but he is still helping
out the community in many big ways. I encourage you
to follow and see what he has to say every
week on at Andre Ewing on Facebook Andre Ewing. You
get a big kick out of it, and he definitely
does not pull any punches like the morning show this morning, Andrea,
I kind of asking seems to me that the political
reality of this police chief appointment goes squarely back to

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Issue five, which was taking away the police department the
union member's right to select the chief. We go all
the way back to Tom Striker days, which gave Tom
Striker protections under the collective bargaining contract which prevented him
from ever getting fired. So I get the problem. Say
what you want about Striker, good or bad, but you

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see what the problem is. It's created by that. Everybody
gets it. Hence Issue five, which put complete control in
the hands of the city manager and presumably the mayor
in one person basically or two selecting the chief. Obviously,
that makes it political. I mean, we've been kind of
talking about the political nature of it with Chiefdiji, But
we have this interim police chief who also maybe suggested

(02:09:49):
in issuing a citation when the police officers on the
street said there was no basis for a citation. Of course,
I'm talking about that light slap that the guy that
ultimately got the crappy out of them in late July.
That suggests maybe he is perhaps a yes man, he's
politically connected. I don't know, but it suggests that. But
the only reason I unfold it that way is because

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Christopher Smithman and others have said, listen, what we need
to do is get council involved in the hiring and firing.
I think Christopher said unanimous represent unanimous council consent, or
maybe at least a super majority seven out of nine.
Would that be a better place to be? Is it
possible for us to move in that direction with things
get better? At least as far as you see it.

Speaker 9 (02:10:33):
Yes, I agree with that at least the total council
or at least are seven out of the nine, because
that way, one person doesn't have the total power, or
even say two the mayor of the city manager, because
how is that going to be an unbiased process if
you don't have others involved, and things can become personal,

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and that's what it seems like. Now you have a
personal fight between the chief, the city manager and the mayor.
So at what point do you have others to be
able to chime in and say, we need all the information,
all the evidence, and if counsel does not totally agree,
then we will stick by counsel's decision. But if counsel

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overwhelmingly agrees, then we know that there was just cause
in the process.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
Right, okay, And going back to my original perception, which
was either the chief, in spite of her desires and
what she would do in the role as chief, bowed
to the will of the manager or purvol and did
things their way. That's one thing. So ultimately then she's
let go because she went in the direction the administration was,

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or she agreed with them and ran the police department
consistently with what they wanted. Hence there was no criticism
of the administration by Fiji and no criticism of Fiji
by the administration.

Speaker 9 (02:11:58):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
One person has the ability to hire and fire. So
going back to my theory, one is likely I would
argue to bow and capitulate in spite of what you
believe to be a better way to do things if
your job is on the line based upon the potential
whim of a single human being.

Speaker 9 (02:12:18):
Hey, let me tell you something. What I would have
loved to sing, I love to see a chief coming
to this city, even be interviewed and chief these you
would have sat back and said, you know what, I
cannot agree to this type of leadership, I will not
put my officers on the line. What I'm going to
do is step down from this position because I will

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not be a puppet. You don't get into a rhythm
with the mayor and city manager and say yes, I'll
do everything you ask completely, and nobody talks against each
other until she's let go. And so if she would
have stood her grounds, had the integrity to say I
can't follow what you're asking me to do, I see

(02:13:01):
it a better way and step down. This way, if
no chief comes into Cincinnati to be hired and say
I can't follow your rule, city manager or mayor, this
is unrealistic to police properly and to do it safely,
and step down, they will change it unless somebody else
will sell their soul and just do anything for the power,

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but not for the purpose.

Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
Power not purpose. Under you always fascinating. I always appreciate
your thoughts, your well to the point commentary. It's just
wonderful and refreshing to have you on the program. And
I'm gonna keep watching you and following you on Facebook.
Like I said, follow them on Facebook, Andre you and
can get a kick out of it. That minimum good
to see you again, and thanks for making a trip in.
It's always a real pleasure to being able to talk
to someone face to face.

Speaker 9 (02:13:47):
Absolutely, And I got some breast cancer wearing his pens
forever y'all want to give them to you and shout
out to my wife and she's going to be presented
with something today on Channel twelve. So just excited about that.
For breast cancer awareness and all those survivors out there
and those families, we love you and keep fighting.

Speaker 3 (02:14:06):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
We all can agree on one thing for certain. In
this politically divided world we live in. Everybody knows cancer sucks. Yes,
Andre Ewan, we'll have you on again, I hope. So, man,
it's always enjoyable. Appreciate you and appreciate a little folks
chiming in. You're getting a lot of pad on the
backs from Facebook messages and from instant the messages I'm
getting on my phone, and it's a good, good, good

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thing to have you here, brother,